Vegan General

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Unless you're here to talk about fitness, take it to >>>/ck/

>>41878111
Why dont you make a discord?

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>>41878114
>not allowed to talk about food on a fitness board

I didn't see your comment in the bread, muesli and oeatmeal thread.

can i be a vegan but just like eat veal once in a while if nobody sees me? It doesn't count if nobody sees right?

mix soy protein with sesame protein retards
source: http://scoobysworkshop.com/protein-calculator/

>>41878111
Vegans who aren't prolife are hypocrites

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>>41878236
>implying a fetus is anything but as dumb as a vegetable

>>41878236

not nescessarily, every kid that's aborted lowers the potential number of consumers of meat, meaning much less dead animals than one life

one abortion could save thousands of lives, and that's before you factor in the aborted kids hypothetical descendants

>>41878236
Prolifers who are pro-gun are hypocrites.

>>41878220
Yes, you can talk about nutrition without blathering to everyone about how you are a vegan. Isn't that amazing?

How do i bulk without overdoing it on the carbs?

My meals were mainly a legume and vegetables. Grains seemed nutritionally weak to me.

>>41878261
How do you rank animal lives compared to human lives?
Are vegans autists?

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>>41878277
>be me
>meat eater
>see a the literally ONLY vegan thread on this entire board
>"oh no, people who eat different stuff than me?!?!"

If you don't like vegans, fuck off from the ONLY vegan thread this board has to offer.

Any resources, like well put together images, that show foods to eat for a good macro and micro balance?

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>>41878316
This.

Kind of a struggle for me to get everything in without missing something.

>Meat eaters NOT allowed

"Allowed as long as you don't push your diets" wasn't working, but I'm sure THIS will keep the discussion clear and focused!

>>41878249
not to mention the number of animals that are ripped to pieces when their faggot food is harvested. the excuse of doing it for "health" makes more sense then doing it to avoid the death of animals

>>41878323
cheers

>>41878111
stop veganposting aka shitposting

>>41878305
value is subjective tho

>>41878323
Thank you, something constructive

>>41878223
no

>>41878311
Psst. It's the only vegan thread because you're literally the only one on this board dumb enough to think it belongs here.

It's the same fucking cartoons every day. You're a one-note guy.

Hey, anybody have a good brand of B vitamins to take?

>>41878323
what about vitamin B12

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twenty eighth for fuck off vegans

>>41878820
>this meme again

You literally get it from toothpaste.

>>41879097
Vegans confirmed for eating toothpaste to supplement their glaring nutritional deficiencies.

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>>41879165
Just look at this example of non vegan diet. Non vegans are literally the only reason for the obesity epidemic.

>>41878111
What's the vegan equivalent to chicken breast in terms of protein?

>>41879165
You supplement a lot of shit through fortified food without even noticing it.

>>41878737
kill yourself

>>41878340
Most of the food harvested is given to the animals YOU eat. You have to give an animal 4 calories to get 1 calorie back. So you kill 4 times as many animals when you first feed the grain to the animal, instead of just eating the grain yourself.

>>41879279
Post body

But for real though how do vegans and vegetarians cope with the fact that plants are alive, and display a clear drive to stay alive? I would like to give up meat but it seems I would still be responsible for a cycle of death.

>>41879342

They have no form of consciousness

>>41878323
>>41879210
check the img, there is none

>>41878111
fuck off veggie niggers. you can't get all your protein from beans.

>>41879381
So? They're still living.

>>41878340
>accidentally killing a few mice
>intentionally killing billions of animals that live their lives in agony
Yeah okay retard

>>41879210

Seitan

>>41878111

can we get a discord?

>>41879381
Neither do cows.

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I like meat, it's not like a dog would have a problem eating my corpse anyway
>b-but we're not animals
Please

>>41879423

Living, but not really alive in the way we're alive. Think of a human in a coma. They have no consciousness, although their body still grows and reacts. They'll continue to grow a beard while in the coma, if you cut them the wound will heal, etc, but they're not conscious. If we expect that they'll never wake up, we'll pull the plug as there's no point to keeping them alive in that state. Now imagine a human that was born in a coma and has a 0% chance of ever not being in a coma. That's a plant. It's essentially "braindead" by the fact that it has no brain.

>>41879479

Obviously cows have consciousness.

>>41878111
back to your containment board pls
>>>/lgbt/

>>41879504

So then it would be okay to eat such a person in theory?

>>41878340
>animals that are ripped to pieces when their faggot food is harvested
anon you don't understand. vegans only really care about "muh cute fuzzy animals :3". they pretend to care about other animals too so they can say they're better than vegetarians

Hey so although I'm not strictly vegan, I am allergic to lactose and eggs, and am looking for alternative with adequate protein and calcium

>>41878311
>start vegan thread
>post image mocking meat eaters
>surprised when they show up

really activated my cruelty free almonds there

>>41879400
Generally 1 cup of beans has about 20g of protein

Also you can build muscle on 1g/kg of bodyweight protein; eating any more goes to waste and it just comes out as piss. I weigh 100kg and if I ate a cup of beans I'd already have 1/5th of my requirement for the day.

Btfo you broscience shill

>>41879546
Sardines. They're rich in protein and calcium both.

>>41878323
Wow just look at all that estrogen and lectin.

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>>41878111
>Meat eaters NOT allowed.
Thankfully, vegans aren't frightening and I can do what I want while you wet the bed.

>>41879527

It might be fucked up to the parents, but assuming they're fine with it, sure it would be ethically permissible. In that case it would basically be like lab grown meat.

>>41879564
Where?
>inb4 soy raises estrogen

>>41878820
I just take a b12 pill. Who gives a fuck. If I can take a tiny pill and a bunch of animals don't have to die to get that bullshit nutrient, then why not just take it?

>>41879558
>you just piss out the excess protein
>but he's the broscience shill
What did he mean by this ??

>>41878249
just buy alternatives.

>>41878220
Fuck you and your graphics trying me to convince me with cheap tactics such as meat poop and milk pus get the fuck out of here.

>>41879578

>Its ok to eat a braindead person but not a different species which a great number of animals do

>>41879558
>having to eat 5 cups of beans every day just to meat the average persons protein requirements

Enjoy shitting every 30 minutes

>>41879624

I think you may have misunderstood the conversation we just had

>>41879442
you need to make seitan, we're talking about something that we throw a pan and its ok

>>41878311
Did you ever think that you might get fewer negative responses if you didn't start every single vegan thread with a bait image

>>41878673

yano a lot more people would turn vegan if you didn't have so many rules

>>41878220
>All that grain could be used more efficiently if it were fed directly to people

Obviously, there's already a food surplus in most developed countries, and that food already doesn't go towards starving people.
I don't know what you hope to achieve by exacerbating that, other than killing any industry reliant on animal rearing/products.

>>41879706
It's probably false flagging.

>>41878820
Only produced by bacteria and animals absorb it through the gut. Humans don't produce enough, so you actually have to supplement this.

>>41878323
>no apples in the iron section
Why? Those things are getting literraly rusty when the skin is peeled.

>>41879558
So 60g of protein is fine then?

>>41878220
>peta

Information disregarded

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>>41878323

>comparing lentils and porterhouse steak

>>41878111
just because we have no religions doesnt mean you have to form a cult based on moral values. thats a dump move


the only reason i see for vegans/vegetarian is that it is a lot less stress on the ecosystem other than that... there is none

if you think animals are some kind of thing that needs to be preserved id like to remind you that animals and even you and me are merly a complex chemical/biological reaction.

>the idea that there is something holy about animals is cancerous
just stop it

>>41879815
>relativism the post

>>41878323
>52g protein/day

Vegans not gonna make it confirmed

>>41879688

you don't need to "make" seitan, you buy it already done and desu, you can literally use it raw, it's already cooked and most of the time flavored and smoked.

>>41879922

>eating that much protons that turn into glucose, defeating the whole purpose of low carb diet

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>vegans

only eat meat when I killed it myself master race

>>41878323
>lentils: 18g protein/cup
Gee whiz, I can't wait to eat 5 pints of fucking lentils every day

I like some animals, but not others, so I'll eat some animals but not others.

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

>>41880621
>Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
Such a stupid statement. I bet George thought it was clever.

>>41880651
It was meant to be metallic

>>41879427
Ausfag here, it's a lot more than a few, especially when you consider pest control. Farmers also regularly cull kangaroos to protect their crops, same with native birds. Killing animals to get your food is a lot more complex than vegans make it out to be.

>>41878111
>Meat eaters NOT allowed.

Fuck you, I'll post where I want.

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Are eggs unethical?

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>>41878220
>measuring consumption of a food product in number of cells

>>41878111
The only reason that vegan "mental gymnastics" is simple is because vegans are stupid. Buying industrially farmed anything hurts animals. Whether or not you eat meat and dairy is completely irrelevant.

I eat foods that I enjoy.

Every diet type has issues with it with some sort of drawback.

I would rather have heart/colon (if im even going to get them) then the definite hormonal problems that come with being began.

inb4: links to biased study

>>41881344
No more unethical than tomatoes.

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>>41879575

Honestly this thread just made me hungry. I'm gonna cook a half pound of beef and make hamburgers

>>41880119
>amino acids turn into glucose

Anon...

>>41878236
Two completely different things, dumbass

>>41881344
Ones you buy at the store definitely are. If you have pet chickens or something and don't kill ones that are male then it could maybe be argued to be okay though.

>>41879575
>internettoughguy.jpg

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>>41878111
I've been vegetarian for a few weeks. I eat vegan 6 days a week and on the Friday when I drink I incorporate a little dairy. That's bad sure but I feel less unhealthy than my lifetime of eggs and meat every day.

What weirds me out is that there are vegetarians that eat eggs and dairy daily with wreckless abandon. Shouldn't they care that they're potentially more unhealthy and unethical than their meat eating counterparts?

>>41880119
Actually they're just pissed out. There's no "protein storage" like there is for fats and carbohydrates.

>>41881425
That's retarded.

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Vegans are cucks.

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>>41882627
I prefer finger foods

i would totally eat a vegan person

>>41881776
Depends on where you source the eggs/milk.

>>41878111
What if I don't love or hate animals but am just indifferent towards it.

Does it make it ok for me to eat meat?

>>41878111
As someone curious in veganism I don't k now why you explicitly say meat eaters keep out. .. it's like you're trying to stir up antagonism.

>>41879626
Beans have more fibre than meat, indeed a balanced vegan diet had more fibre than a standard American diet so why would you assume that they would shit more frequently? I'd agree if they were just juicing everything thou

>>41878111

Every day this thread gets posted and then one guy posts about 30 government links showing the average vegan is low test, vitamin deficiency, etc. One guy nit picks one of the sources and the counter argument is post your body. Because fact is (you) are vegan and you look like shit because you arent roiding and that is the only way you can make it as a vegan. Why do people even bother with these threads. This is /fit/. It's about having muscle one way or another. Veganism is hugely worse for anything physical. Take this shit onto another board.

>>41878323
This is a fitness board. 50g of protien is unacceptable. Make it /fit/ related or get of this board.

Hey, meat-eater here. I know, there's a rule, but I just wanted to stop in and make one post to say that you guys are doing great work here. Keep it up! Vegan power!

>>41878111
you seem to bitch about meat eaters a lot

probably because there are facts, one such as vegans lose their teeth faster

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>>41880081

Howdy, hypocrite! Gonna go tell these people their threads don't belong?

>>41883758

Did you actually ready any of those links you posted. I say that veganism bad for anything /fit/ related. You call me a hypocrite and post other general diet threads that are in fact /fit/ related.

Every one of those threads is someone asking if a food is good for getting fit.

This thread isn't at all /fit/ related. It would be different if in some way someone asked some question on veganism with getting /fit/. in mind. Not just shitposting MEAT IS MURDER.

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there is something innately horrible about butchering animals and grinding them up and eating them.

snatching the young, slicing there throats, grinding tons of baby chicks in a grinder

it doesn't seem right, i don't think humans were meant to eat meat, we can get all of our nutrients from simply eating plants which literally exist to nourish the world.

something is terribly wrong, i'm going to try to stop eating all meat because i have a conscience

>>41879647

No I understand. If a baby is born braindead, as long as the parents are ok with it then you can eat it. Its nothing but meat. This is the problem with vegans. How little a lot of you seem to value humanity

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>another lisa simpson general

>>41883920

You sound like a pussy. I eat meat. I hunt. I fish. I don't feel bad about any of it. The only thing I feel after I eat meat is full. Lions don't feel bad after they kill something, and neither do I. I don't care about animals. I don't care if they grind up baby chickens. They are male and serve no purpose in the poultry industry. Plus something else eats the baby chicken slurry, so it all works out in the end. Everything dies. At least by killing animals for food they have served a delicious purpose.

>>41878111
The real answer is that non-vegans don't care about what they don't interact with. It's the same with people, no one gives a shit that thousands of kids are dying in africa except bleeding hearts, whereas every cares if someone close to them or a pet dies. If anything vegans are the abnormality, at least the ones who say they do it "because they care about all the animals." It's a lazy half step of sympathy that I would bet is influenced by some past experience and now actual worldly empathy

>>41878111
>non-vegan mental gymnastics

What if I just like meat and am willing to kill animals to sustain this behavior?

>>41883920
>we can get all of our nutrients from simply eating plants which literally exist to nourish the world
No, plants fucking exist for the same reason everything else does, to survive and propagate it's species.
Plants don't fucking ask to be eaten, and they do feel pain.

>>41878111
The non-vegan is making all kinds of gains while the vegan is just walking across the floor. Non-vegan also has a jetpack, while the vegan has a vagina.

>>41884341
>What if I just like meat and am willing to kill animals to sustain this behavior?
Can you word a reason that makes animals ok to eat, that if applied to humans would not make them ok to eat?
Examples of bad reasons:
>I don't care/I don't have to justify myself to you
Then why post
>Animals are stupid
Stupid/retarded/comatose humans are not ok to eat, so the reason you eat animals can't be intelligence
>Meat tastes good/is nutritious
Human meat also tastes pretty fucking good, according to cannibals' confessions. I have heard of comparisons ranging from veal to game. So, taste can't be the reason you don't eat animals, because it would also make humans ok to eat.
Similarly with nutritional value, our bodies are made of 100% human, that should make us ok to eat
Also, the nutritional value of meat is not a necessity since we can get literally every single nutrient from plants, including all 9 essential amino acids, vitamin B12 and D, iron, zinc and calcium.
>Prion's! Gotcha!
True, but we are mostly discussing ethics. Imagine, for the sake of argument, that a pill has been invented that makes human meat ok to eat, health-wise. Is it ethically ok to eat, just because it is safe and nutritious?
>OMG you PSYCHO vegan, you can't just COMPARE them!
I didn't. Google "comparison analogy difference".
>We are above them
Elon Musk is probably above you in any way conceivable including net worth, contribution to society and education level. That doesn't make it ok for him to eat you.
You are above an std-ridden uneducated hobo heroin junkie prostitute, same as above, she's not ok to eat.
So, "we are above animals" is not the reason we eat them
(1/2)

>>41884341
>>41884763 (2/2)
>WE WUZ SPACE EXPLORERZ N SHIET
Have YOU been to space, anon?
>N-no baka senpai desu, I mean we, as a species, have been to space!
Laika has also been to space, but people still eat dog meat, so space exploration is not a reason to eat someone
>No, you don't understand, Laika had no idea what was going on. We have a grand purpose!
Define purpose. What is your purpose? On all accounts, save for few relatives and close friends (not unlike other land mammals), to other people you are somewhere between noone, background character, or at best, a statistic. So if "they have no purpose" was a reason to eat meat, it would not exclude humans who don't have a connection to you.
>But they have a connection to SOMEONE
What about hobos, monks, hermits, criminals, death row convicts etc. who have severed all connections with other humans, are they ok to eat? No, so "they don't matter to me" is not a reason to eat others.

Wow you guys are pussies. I'd probably eat people every now and then if that wasn't illegal.

>>41884871
xD

>>41884896
nah but for real though, I'm kinda jealous of the empathy. Not really because that shit seems annoying but it must be cool to actually give a fuck.

>>41884763
>Can you word a reason that makes animals ok to eat, that if applied to humans would not make them ok to eat?
>all this false equivalence

Much like how vegan cheese is inedible garbage despite looking like real cheese, animals are not equivalent to humans despite the occasional trivial similarity.

>>41884932
Thanks! Have you tried falafel burgers? They have nothing to do with the taste of cow (they are not a soy thing trying to emulate beef), so if you're looking for something new to eat from a takeaway, try it. You won't regret it!

>>41884932
>it must be cool to actually give a fuck

Giving a fuck is AWESOME, especially when it's about something like a career, your family, your teammates, a hobby or literally anything else that doesn't involve having to eat ten cups of beans a day just to hit your macros.

>>41884955
>Animals are stupid
Stupid/retarded/comatose humans are not ok to eat, so the reason you eat animals can't be intelligence
>We are above them
Elon Musk is probably above you in any way conceivable including net worth, contribution to society and education level. That doesn't make it ok for him to eat you.
You are above an std-ridden uneducated hobo heroin junkie prostitute, same as above, she's not ok to eat.
So, "we are above animals" is not the reason we eat them

>Fitness
>Vegan

lol no

>>41884989
>Eating from a cup
Do you also put your steak on a glass, nerd? Fuck outta here with the retarded strawmen
>Oh my god I meant the cup as in the Imperial system what a dumb vegan I'll let him know the B12 deficienciy hurt his brain huehuehuehue
Still a strawman. Eat PB if you want more calories, eat seitan if you want more protein

>>41878111
Lol not a single thought goes through my head when I'm chowing down on some tasty gains filled chicken or juicy steak.

Guess I'm just a sociopath then

>>41878111

With a baiting shitpost like this... oh man.

>>41883921

What else would you do with it? Send it to school? Do you know what braindead means? It's not mental retardation.

>>41878220
If it's Peta, it's ignored...

>>41884932
I have zero empathy and I made my diet vegan anyways. I'm sure even most nihilists eventually get health scares.

>>41878305
Equally meaningless.

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>>41884955

>vegan cheese is inedible garbage despite looking like real cheese

Shop around before you say that. This brand is the shit.

>>41878122
yea make a vegan discord please i will join

>>41886308
>kike shill

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imagine that your entire personality was being a pussy

whew

>>41878305
If a building was burning with Trump and a puppy inside....I would save the puppy

tfw I'm not a vegan, but I'm way more concerned with unnecessary suffering than health consequences

this is why I count for lab grown meat to become viable

>>41884763
What you are writing is bullshit.
Im raw Vegan in the week.
My brother is vegan for 4-5 years now.

You Need no reason to kill something.
If you want to kill and eat something you can do it. This is life and deal with it.

The bad Thing is not killing an animal.
I can kill a rabbit with bare Hands and will be ok with it.
The bad Thing is the Dimension of the meat Industrie. Those People are gaining tons of Money with feeding People crap.

So dont try convince People that is bad to kill an animal, coz ist not. It fucking life. You dont even have to eat it. If you want you can kill one.
The Dimension of the meat Industry is the bad Thing that Needs to end!
This is why being vegang or part time vegan is the right Thing to do.
People start with IF too!

https://www.allianceforeatingdisorders.com/portal/orthorexia

Humans are absolutely and indisputably NOT designed to eat meat. We have neither the digestive system for it, nor anywhere NEAR enough HCL to break it down... we do not eat the animal quickly after death.... we do not even have the teeth for eating flesh... plus processed meat is among the most carcinogic of all substances. Food is defined as that which stores solar energy for deposit into the intestine. So, if it doesn't grow in the ground and store solar energy, it's not food.

The most compelling proof of all is, of course, the number of people who are obese, and sick. 3 of 4 people in the U.S. are persistently ill, and on some kind of pharmaceuticals. Sure, we do need some animal fat to maintain bones, skin, teeth, and brain tissue. That's why Al Gore invented good fish oil, hee hee.

At ground level, it's a joy to live and feel and look better than our peers when we stick to real foods. Frank Sinatra nailed it when he quoted the old maxim, "Living well is the best revenge." My mentor always says, "The people who do it better are the only ones who know it better."

Animal protein is just too inflammatory. You can try avocados, walnuts, and other great sources that are infinitely healthier than animal protein.

>>41878111
I eat meat and just posted. Fck the rules and fck this thread with privileges

>>41879479
t. anon that has never even seen a farm from a distance

>>41886731
Nice bait.

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fucking piece of shit faggot cat

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>>41886821
>can't prove me wrong
>m-muh bait

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>>41878111

these are fun to edit

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>>41878311

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>>41886731
>Food is defined as that which stores solar energy for deposit into the intestine

Stopped reading there. Where the FUCK did you get this definition from?

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>>41886955
Good job posting that racist pic and outing yourself. I now realise I'm trying to explain this to a /pol/ tard who likely voted Trump.

The idea that the body can use all proteins by breaking them down into component acids sounds good on paper, but is fallacious for more than one reason.

For starters, animal protein is, without exception in the U.S. filled with horrific chemicals and toxins. The body does not recognize them, so, can neither use or eliminate them correctly. Plus, many of them are no longer what they were, in reaction to the presence of certain of these toxins and unnatural chemicals.

Plus, you'd have to be pretty large to successfully process and digest (nutrify) a full 30 grams of protein per day; better to get your protein from plant sources. Even those that have high chemical content are more likely to deliver constituent amino acids to tissue.

Learn how to get more protein from the ground, and you'll find yourself less reliant on self-proclaimed experts. People who live stronger for more years are the only people I trust on the subject, everyone else is bloviating self-importantly, and to the detriment of others, let alone themselves. Become your own "go-to" guy or girl.

now GTFO

>>41886686
Why do you type like a retard?

>>41878220
/fit/ probably eats twice that and way more fish and chickens... also this is all assuming no one buys local.

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>>41887145
jokes on you, well i am

>>41879427
>Killing trillions of insects and billions of mice and throwing out their corpses
>Killing animals for food

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Daily reminder vegans are twig armed beta losers.

>>41878249
>9gag
seems about right

>>41884763
You're right! We should eat the poor!

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>using the US as a basis for health and animal care

>>41884763
The lord gave us dominion over the animals, we literally have a god given right to eat meat

>>41887334
>thinking vegans won't be godless liberals
anon...

>>41887220
Has anyone else here ever eaten raw meat they hunted themselves?
It's pretty good tier

>>41887642

Yeah don't do that unless you enjoy being a host to organisms you don't want.

>>41887334

A government has dominion over its people. That doesn't mean the president should order the military to slaughter everyone.

>>41881299
i thought this to until i found out it takes a lot more grain to feed livestock than it does to feed us, we would be killing less field mice if everyone switched to plant based.

>>41886731

Daily reminder the accepted fact is homo sapien only evolved to the level of intelligence we did because we learnt to cook meat.

Don't believe? Google it.

:)

>>41878111
and guess what what will get you more gains
Also I don't give a fuck about animals as long as they don't suffer. And a nail from pneumatic gun or whatever they use, should be painless.

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>this entire fucking thread
So was it just projection when meat eaters claim all vegans are pushy and annoying? Holy fuck

>>41878111
>Meat eaters NOT allowed

Only pure blood vegans who've never eaten a single piece of meat since birth can post in this thread, vegans just like you, right?

One of my closest friends is a hard-core vegan and she understands that the only way to promote the positive care for animals she desires is to have an open and objective dialogue.
Do you honestly think building this 'vegans only' club is going to help your cause? It gives vegans a negative image and pushes more people further into the extreme opposition. That's exactly why Trump won, because of idiotic lefties who didn't know when to shut the fuck up and act like adults pushed people away.

I appreciate that there's a lot more teenagers on 4chan than there used to be who aren't the most objective or critical thinkers, to you I say this:
Aggression will get you nowhere, it should only be used as a last resort. As soon as you start pushing your shit on people they'll close up in their little intellectual bubble of what they already know and shut you out, disregarding everything you say not based on logic but the concept that you're attacking their beliefs and knowledge, two things which the average person attaches absolutely to their ego.

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>>41888427
For instance allow me to use an example most of the people on this board will probably understand. Imagine you see someone in the gym doing godawful deadlifts, you know for a fact that person is going to fuck up their back if they keep doing deadlifts with such awful form. If you approach this person and tell them "Hey bro, you're doing that all wrong, you're going to wreck your shit like that." How do you think they will respond? Usually something like "Yeah ok, I've been managing it fine so far." or "And I suppose you're some kind of expert? How much do you lift?" or some such response. Instead try something like this "Hey buddy, I've seen you in here doing deadlifts a few times, how're you progressing? ... That's cool, I've been doing X Y Z ... Have you ever tried doing it like this? I got a lot of back problems and they all went away as soon as I dropped my hips and started straightening my back, now I can lift a lot more, you should give it a go and see what you think." Don't you think they're going to be a lot more likely to respond positively to such an approach?
What you need to understand is that it doesn't matter if you're 'right'. Look at the world around you, being 'right' isn't enough to convince anyone of anything, it's the manner in which you deliver it.
So whether you're vegan or a meat eater, no one is going to convince anyone of anything unless you suck your ego deep down inside you and start acting like a human being.

>>41878111

>Veganism is mental illness like homosexuality.

Only two type of humans reject their nature, women and queers. Both inferior human beings.

What are you?

>>41888427
>>41888448
You're looking into it too much, he is false flagging

>>41888448
>"start acting like a human being"
Like a human being not a fucking sheep what eats grass all day.

Srs question

Do vegans blame meat-eater animals ? Tiger, lion and stuff ?

>>41888771
Humans (some at least) are capable of complex reasoning and emotional depth that allow us to feel empathy for other sentient beings and understand that eating their corpses has no nutritional benefit for out survival compared to a properly planned plant based diet.
Also, you seem to imply that vegans are eating nothing but greens (you said grass, but I'll interpret that broadly)
Sheep don't eat seitan, falafel, tempeh, tofu, ice cream, pasta, jackfruit "pulled pork", "cheese"cake, "cheese"pizza, veganaise etc, now, do they?
>>41888810
Definition:
>Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose.
Exclude, not prevent.

Why are mods so shit at deleting b8 threads

>>41878220
>it "murders" animals
provided the treatment of the animal doesn't damage the quality of the product too much: i don't care

>destroys the planet
the environment is fucked regardless. passing the tipping-point regarding climate-change is inevitable if we haven't passed it already. water isn't in short supply in my country and we don't use any where near all our arable land

>puss and faeces are gross
we ingest massive quantities of this stuff regardless of whether we eat meat, our immune systems are top-shelf

>>41888810
>Humans
>Intelligent
>Capable of living without harming other living things and the environment because we are intelligent

>Lions
>An animal
>Needs to eat meat

>>41878111
Trips confirm veganism to be the best diet

>>41878236
>implying nigger babies are human

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>>41887020
wat, didnt I btfo you in the last veganism general thread you dumb fuck?

>>41878111
If being Vegan is so great why arent all animals vegan?

>>41891959
Meat really fattens up your brain.

>>41878220
>peta
I keep reading they kill the animals they rescue, is that real or some made up bullshit?

>>41881561
This is like a smoker bragging about how an anti-smoking ad makes them want to smoke more. Have fun with your chronic disease goals of 2017 anon.

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damn death breaths got btfo hard in this thread

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>vegans are literally eating chicken feed

http://ncsoy.org/media-resources/uses-of-soybeans/

The veganism meme came out of nothing, and will fizzle away to nothing given enough time. This is a glorified fad diet

>inb4 inconclusive studies claiming meat is cancer

>>41894312
>thinks eating meat is realistically going to make any difference to anyone's lives but assblasted vegans
You've taken the meme too far, cupcake.

I'm not a vegan, I eat meat purely to spite vegans, because I hate them.

I don't even like eating meat, but I make sure to have it with every meal because I hate vegans so much.

>>41881800

>pissing out protein

If this is actually happening to you, you should see a doctor as your kidneys no longer function and the actual filter that keeps certain shit from passing through your kidneys has been destroyed.

>>41884763
>>What if I just like meat and am willing to kill animals to sustain this behavior?
>Can you word a reason that makes animals ok to eat, that if applied to humans would not make them ok to eat?

(the post you were replying to there was my only post in this thread fyi, so I'm not sure why you said "why post" as if I was posting all of those things you greentexted)

I honestly can't think of a reason that makes animals "ok to eat," but the reasons not to eat animals won't dissuade me from eating animals.

What I was trying to illustrate with my post is that I'm going to continue to eat animals not because of some mental gymnastics, but because I want to eat animals (because they taste good). And yes, I am willing to kill animals to continue to do this. I have no qualms with this.

You could probably make a compelling argument as to why I should have qualms--but I do not care.

>>41878220
Who the fuck drinks 3 glasses of milk a day?

>>41895194
Are you really this retarded? Plant-based diets has literally been shown to lower the risks of diabetes and heart disease over and over again.

Why do meat eaters always insist on shitting up threads that have nothing to do with them?

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>>41898514
This is a meat-eating board. You are on our territory.

>>41898514

meat eaters are good people and they want you to be healthy

>>41878236
Meat eaters who value human life are hypocrites

>>41898543
Only if they eat people. Which they do not.

>>41898554
but what's the difference between a human and an animal that makes it okay to eat them?

>>41878256
>fetus that has literal consciousness, will to live, sentience, and is someone elses child has the same worth to a vegan as broccoli
remember OP's pic about mental gymnastics?

>>41881502

You don't need to kill half of all seedlings to get tomatoes

>>41898567
Humans are our species, and the others are not. I can't believe I had to help you out with this.

>>41898576
So that makes it okay to kill sentient animals?

>>41898568
>literal consciousness, will to live, sentience

Debateable.

>>41898586
Yes.

>>41898597
So would it be morally okay for an alien species to come down and murder us for meat?

>>41881571
im not agreeing with >>41880119 but gluconeogenesis is a thing, it's normally a mechanism to regulate blood sugar

>>41898603
Not for use to decide in that case, is it, sweetheart?

>>41898615
but I'm assuming you would fight back, admitting that you think it's wrong. See the hypocrisy?

>>41898567

cows are dumb and theyre not your friend

>>41898648
So do you think it's okay to torture and kill another human because he's dumber than you?

>>41898635
>>41898658

Don't employ hypotheticals or thought experiments to willfully obtuse people. It's a waste of your time. Especially as a lot of /fit/ are young teens/men who think they know everything already.

It's the same all throughout this thread and all vegan threads

>animals aren't sentient
>animals are different to humans
>what about the field mice
>bacon tho
>plants have feelings
>desert island scenarios
>canine teeth
>appealing to early human development
>appealing to tradition
>but if u dont eat cows they will go extinct
>cows are dumb
>for every steak you don't eat, i will eat X amount

It's literal retardation but arguing with them is unhelpful. Vegans have seen every variant of the above, nothing carnivores post is original or a gotcha! that they like to think it is.

>>41898684
true

>>41898658

cows don't get tortured, the bolt method works.

>>41898702

>living in a factory farm isn't torture

ok

>>41898740

all my food lived on a pasture

>>41898635
You wouldn't fight back because you think the aliens are mean bullies with no morals ;(. You'd fight back because you don't want to fucking die just like every other living thing on this planet. Nothing is just gonna go "okay yes please kill me now".

>>41878111
Only weak people use mental gymnastics to justify their life choices. I eat meat because I like it, no gymnastics required.

>>41898813

>Child molesters don't need to use mental gymnastics to justify their life choices. They do it because they like it

That means it's fine by you, right? Really gets the neurons firing

>>41898889
>>Child molesters don't need to use mental gymnastics to justify their life choices. They do it because they like it
This statement is correct, yes

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>>41898889
>being this fucking retarded

You only have to do mental gymnastics if you care in the first place.
I like meat because it tastes nice.

>>41898889
>Child molesters don't need to use mental gymnastics to justify their life choices. They do it because they like it
Exactly? What's your point?

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>>41898889
>this level of retardation

>>41898911
Comparing non vegans to child molesters, top fucking kek. No further statements needed.

>>41878256
>tfw vegetarian but couldn't give 2 shits about animals feelings
You vegan fags are insufferable

>>41899137
http://wikidiff.com/comparison/analogy

>>41899170
>Analogy The comparison of two things,
http://www4.ncsu.edu/~nmswishe/100_rhetorical%20devices.htm
Analogies are a form of comparison you mong

>>41899222
>I was so desperate to prove you wrong that I didn't even read what I posted!
"Analogy
The comparison of two things, which are alike in several respects, **for the purpose of explaining or clarifying some unfamiliar or difficult idea or object by showing how the idea or object is similar to some familiar one**. ... analogy serves the more practical end of explaining a thought process or a line of reasoning or the abstract in terms of the concrete, and may therefore be more extended."
You are using the word "compare" to imply he equates child molestation with eating a steak or at least bring them to the same level, while he was framing another situation in your own logic to show you how your logic is faulty
>But it's a more extreme example!
Yes, that's the point. Your logic should be consistent across all severity, or you're a hypocrite. And plus, it's acceptable if we use the definition for analogy the link you sent
Nobody is saying eating a steak is comparable to raping a boy. What we are saying is that "X gives me pleasure so it's okay to do X" is hypocritical, to say the least
>Yeah, but vegans kill rodents and insects in the process of getting their crops harvested!
The cow on your plate was born and raised without a choice of whether it would end up killed or not, the mouse chose to trespass property and go eat on the wheat field
The cow was killed for your pleasure, the mouse was killed out of necessity. Don't say no, there is no nutrient that you can't get from plants, you only eat cows because you like their taste. I have to eat something to survive.
Eating cow is INHERENTLY bad, because you do everything from the moment it is born to eat and kill it, while eating crops does imply bykill, it is not inherently wrong (we do not go out of our way to kill the mouse)
Even if the above were not true, bykill is at least 10x larger in the case of eating meat, because a calorie of cow requires a fuckton of feed (Google beef feed conversion rate).

>>41895304
Kekage

>>41899164
I'm a meat eater and I have zero clue what you're trying to say. Of course you don't give a shit about the animals. You support the same industry I do.

I'm vegan but I don't give a fuck about animals I just do it for nutritional reasons.I also don't shove it down everyones throats is this acceptable?

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>being vegan

>>41898911
>>41898963
>>41899093
>>41899124
>>41899222

see >>41899343

Do they not teach critical thinking skills in school any more? I demonstrated that liking something is not a sufficient reason to do something.

>>41878111
>I care about animals so I avoid harming them
Because bugs are as important as dogs and cows, right? I hope you've never stepped on an ant in your life because all life is equally valuable!

>>41879575
Literal cancer on a plate.
Not even a vegetarian.

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>>41899457
I think it all bowls down to the property violation.
If the bug doesn't enter in a private proterty it's fine. >>41899343

>>41878236
I'm pro-choice only because it's mostly blacks being aborted.
>black population in the US has been static for the past 50 years
Lmao

>>41899421
Seems enough reason for most people.
It also fills up my belly since you're being picky.

>>41899549
We are demonstrating how it isn't reason enough. Look:
>Meat fills my belly so it is ok to eat
>Human babies fill my belly so they are ok to eat
>Prepubescent boys' assholes satisfy my penis so they are ok to rape
Why not just fuck consenting adults? Why not just eat chickpea curry?

>>41883629
>>41883885
good posts

and jfl @ >>41883758

>>41887020
> muh toxins muh chemicals in meat muh le evil capitalists

What the fuck. Did you come from the vaccines cause autism club?

>>41898588

>implying its debatable

obviously a ball of cells isnt shit but its legal to kill a baby when it undeniably has a brain/heart/pain response

>>41899620
Human meat and animal meat aren't the same thing.
You're saying we should give equal weight to a species other than our own, it isn't in our interest to.
Eating most animals is socially acceptable for almost everyone.

>>41899737
ugh
what are you, some kind of specist?

>>41899769
Fuck everything that isn't human, we should colonize the universe and kill anything that is a threat before it can kill us. Also eat anything that tastes nice.

>>41899737
>Human meat and animal meat aren't the same thing.
Of course not. I've spent 2-3 posts explaining analogy Vs comparison, try to keep up
>You're saying we should give equal weight to a species other than our own, it isn't in our interest to.
I absolutely didn't. Cows shouldn't vote, because they are stupid and below us. That doesn't mean we should eat them
>Eating most animals is socially acceptable for almost everyone.
Appeal to social contract.
Stoning women who were raped and left pregnant, or stoning gays, in some middle East countries is socially acceptable, does that make it morally ok?
Owning blacks as slaves 200 years ago was socially acceptable, does that make it morally ok?
Being a burden on the health care system by being obese is socially acceptable, does that make it morally ok?
Illegally downloading a movie is socially acceptable (everyone does it), does that make it morally ok?

>>41886622
If a building was burnging and there was a room full of vegans trapped by the door that I could open and a puppy I would take the puppy

>>41878111
Dont be a faggot and eat meat

In on social justice thread. Fuck the meat-eaters! Fuck the patriarchy! Bring down capitalism and conceptual penis! Eating meat is rape.

Vegans
>What you eat in the privacy of your own home should be what I deem appropriate
Also vegans
>No I should be able to have my boyfriend fuck me, what I do in the privacy of my own home is up to me
????????????????????????????????????????????????
???
?
???????????????????????

>>41899866
Assuming your boyfriend is conse you can take all the dick you want
The cow never consented being turned to poop

>>41899884
why would consent matter
a child doesnt consent to going to school

>tfw you didn't consent to being born
Feels bad man

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>>41886731
You know in dwellings of early humans and their ancestors you'd find weapons and tons of animal bones

>>41886731
>Humans are absolutely and indisputably NOT designed to eat meat
Opposite actually, we are not designed to eat plants, we can't even break down cellulose

>The most compelling proof of all is, of course, the number of people who are obese, and sick
It's because they eat too much sugar in US, which is coming from vegetables and fruits

>My mentor always says
This is the point your bait became obvious

>>41886580
If only I could stop giving a fuck about other people like this guy.

Imagine the though process behind this.

>Well gee I guess I stigmatise myself as one of the most annoying sub groups of human society
>Any downsides?
>...Nope lets do it

>>41900089
False analogy, it's parents forced it to go to school because it is in its best interest.
Slaughtering a cow isn't on the cow's interest

>>41887705
>A government has dominion over its people
That is wrong on paper though. The government was given the right to govern through the people.

>>41899343
>You are using the word "compare"
Hold up faggot, that's not me, I'm >>41899124
>>41899421
You're assuming I need you're OK to eat meat, I don't.
I eat meat because I want to, that's reason enough for me. It's not illegal (unlike eating babies and raping underage boipussy) so I won't stop doing it.
>s-s-s-so you're saying you'd eat babies and molest children if it was legal
No, don't be retarded

>>41900232
so as long as i think it is in their best interest it's ok to do it?
you know pedophiles think they aren't harming the child right? are pedophiles ok then?
or look at most middle east/african cultures, lots of harmful shit is done under the name of the greater good
does it make them ok? if its not ok, who decides that they are not in the greater good?

>>41900262
you don't understand
killing beautiful animals to eat them is worse than being a fucking nazi

>>41900262
>You're assuming I need you're OK to eat meat, I don't.
>I eat meat because I want to, that's reason enough for me. It's not illegal (unlike eating babies and raping underage boipussy) so I won't stop doing it.
>>s-s-s-so you're saying you'd eat babies and molest children if it was legal
>No, don't be retarded
None of this makes sense you fucking retard
Read again and realize your logical mistakes

Not eating meat makes your estrogen shoot through the roof. Evidently by this thread.

>>41900320
>"liking something is not sufficient reason to do it"
>"I don't need a specific reason to do X, I do it because I want to"
>this apparently doesn't make sense
Did your mother rock you to sleep right next to a wall you fucking spaz?

>>41900262
>It's not illegal (unlike eating babies and raping underage boipussy) so I won't stop doing it.
Your wife cucking you with Tyrone then stealing half your assets and investments post divorce is perfectly legal, that doesn't make it ok

>>41900360
Holy shit you can't even think can you
Level of retardation on /fit/ is astounding sometimes

>>41900383
>getting married in [CURRENT YEAR]
kek, keep trying though it's amusing.

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>>41878111
Im in tolerant to soy corn and wheat.

What fucking diet can i go on without being bloated every day.

The only way for me to look real lean is to fast kn my diet "cycles". Its making me hate my lfie please anyone respond.

>>41900395
>having an argument
>"you're retarded"
>"holy shit you're retarded"
>"OMFG YOU'RE SO FUCKING STUPID CAN YOU EVEN THINK"
How about you explain how I'm being retarded then you fucking autist?

>>41900401
>Im in tolerant to soy corn and wheat.
Fucking sucks, condolences
>What fucking diet can i go on without being bloated every day.
You can still eat beans, peas, lentils, rice, veggies, fruit, greens, nuts and seeds
Reducing salt should help with bloating

>>41900415
>Being this angry
Mate just keep eating your corpses, no need to shit up the thread
Filter "vegan" from the catalog and eat whatever pleases you

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>>41900434
>"umad?"
>no explanation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFAHOgCjbJY
I'm guessing you realized there's literally no argument against "I don't care, I want to"

>>41900401
I think being vegan doesn't have to be binary, you can simply lower the amount of meat you eat and still have an impact if your conditions require you to eat it

>>41900467
Obviously

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>>41878111
I don't care. I eat meat. I drink. I smoke cigarettes. If I die at 40 that's alright with me. Honestly I hope I die sooner. Pain scares me but dying of cancer in a few years would be less terrible than the pain of being homeless.

I'm forced to be vegan because beans and lentils are cheaper than meat. If I could I would eat rumpsteak every meal.

>>41898611
Wow, they can't even let people perform cliff pullups in peace.

recent vegan reporting in. Good on you for making these threads

>>41887672
Ask me how I know you live in a city

>>41900767
why dont you just do the world a favor then?

>>41899469
>Literal cancer on a plate.
>http://www.diagnosisdiet.com/meat-and-cancer/
>https://chriskresser.com/red-meat-cancer-again-will-it-ever-stop/
>http://www.mensfitness.com/nutrition/what-to-eat/meat-cancer-bacon-who-report-mens-fitness-health
>https://rawfoodsos.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/minger_formal_response2.pdf
>https://deniseminger.com/2010/08/06/final-china-study-response-html/
>https://deniseminger.com/2010/08/03/the-china-study-a-formal-analysis-and-response/
>https://deniseminger.com/2010/07/07/the-china-study-fact-or-fallac/ >http://www.foodrenegade.com/the-china-study-discredited/
>https://deniseminger.com/the-china-study/
>https://www.westonaprice.org/our-blogs/the-curious-case-of-campbells-rats-does-protein-deficiency-prevent-cancer/
>https://www.westonaprice.org/our-blogs/taking-a-trip-down-memory-lane-fishing-for-our-good-friend-glutathione-in-the-waters-of-the-memory-hole-how-t-colin-campbell-helped-prove-that-protein-protects-us
>https://www.reddit.com/r/keto/comments/1zjlm/scienceanimal_protein_rich_diets_could_be_harmful/cfupxyt/?st=j403pmhn&sh=b3278c44
>http://caloriesproper.com/red-meat-wont-kill-you-it-will-make-you-stronger/
>http://www.saragottfriedmd.com/does-meat-cause-cancer-revisiting-the-meat-igf-1-and-cancer-connection/
>http://www.sciencemediacentre.co.nz/2014/03/05/dietary-protein-health-and-mortality-experts-respond/

>>41898603

Of course

>>41900981
why is red meat classed as a class 2 carcinogen same as smoking then?

>>41890726

>no harm

Don't think so dude

How can you even empathise with a cow/pig/sheep?
I've slaughtered animals myself and let me tell you I feel absolutely nothing
Bunch of pussies you are

Can vegans swallow after a BJ ?

>>41901053
Yes, as long as it's concenting and not exploitative

If a vegan can recommend a 3500-4000 calorie a day diet with adequate protein I'll be more than happy to give it a try.

I just can seem to think of a way without spending ridiculous amounts of time cooking.

>parents, sibling and brother in law all vegan
>mom underweight and tired all the time since becoming vegan
>dad is fine because I've got him on gear, but he still doesn't gain much muscle despite having a home gym
>sister just an average unfit person
>brother in law works out and drinks vegan pea shakes, severely underweight. Looks anorexic (no gear for him)

I always get told how healthy it is to be vegan. "watch this documentary on netflix" they tell me every time I visit them. "You should stop drinking so much milk" They tell me...

They even told me recently that I have a milk allergy that they knew about since I was a baby. Even though I'm 25 and have always drank lots of milk for as long as I can remember (even did GOMAD once)

>Start studying nutrition
>Get qualifications
>Still studying for more qualifications and planning to start my own nutritionist business
>Still get told meat is bad and that it makes me feel sluggish
>tfw they are telling me how I feel
>tfw actually feel great all of the time because I have an optimum diet and actually eat more vegetables than they do anyway

"But anon, it takes (big figure of millions) gallons of water and food just to feed the animals you eat, but it would take less water and food to just eat plants"

>tfw they are saying the animals eat and drink TOO MUCH resources
>tfw they think we should eat their resources instead
>tfw they think we should use their living space to grow plants instead
>tfw they think this saves the animals


>start telling them that 1 more vegan doesn't make a difference and that I'm waiting until lab grown meat becomes mainstream and affordable
>be told that it's still meat so it's bad for you anyway
>be told lab meat would "probably" cause even more cancer than animal meat because it's "fake chemicals"

But there's no such thing as fake chem---
>"just watch the netflix documentaries and you'll see"

>>41878111
>tfw know many vegetarians who are awesome people
>all vegans I ever encountered were insufferable tryhards

>>41901100
>and ridiculous amounts of money

>>41886622
If I was told to shoot a puppy or you, a vegan scum, to save my own life, I'd shoot the puppy to see you suffer, then shoot you because I hate your kind, then the puppy would get up because it was a blank round and the puppy is a good actor, then he and me would go to the butcher, buy chicken breasts, roast them and eat them, then take a chicken breast shit on your fucking grave

>>41901119

>vegan diet make ppl magically less fat

Woah this is terrible, we definitely don't need this in first world western countires.

>>41901100
Lots of plant milk and peanut butter
There should be another "vegan" thread if you ctrl + F. Do it and look for our discord. We can help you there.
>>41901119
Imagine me rewriting the whole thing but with the omnivores and vegans switched. That's my family.

>>41879593
>I make a difference
>me taking a b12 pill literally saves animals from being killed

>i'd prefer to buy an overpriced plastic bottle of capsules with a single vitamin in it than buy the meat of already dead animals

>I've definitely researched the production and manufacturing process of this tub of pills and I somehow conclude that this process does less damage to the environment than fish and chickens


Lol.

>>41878340
Not even close to vegan but a combine harvester tearing up a few mice is nowhere close to a slaughterhouse

>>41901100

peanut butter sandwiches
banana-peanut butter-broccoli-dried fruit smoothies
vegan ice cream/sorbet

>>41901198
Your family tell you that your vegan diet will cause you cancer and that you've been allergic to it since birth?

But yeah, it's annoying as shit when people who don't understand your or even their own views try to convince you of incorrect facts. Doesn't matter what their views are... dumb people are dumb. I also know a couple of vegans who are just normal and don't care that I eat meat.

>>41901191
What are you even talking about? You're actually sounding dumber than the people I'm talking about hahahahaha

>>41879306
If we just eat the grain ourselves, what do you propose the animals eat?

Hm... Maybe we need less of these animals... We should wait until they die out and let nature take it's course so they don't eat our harvested food?

>>41901244
>What are you even talking about? You're actually sounding dumber than the people I'm talking about hahahahaha

Tfw to intelligent to understand what other people are saying
Tfw to intelligent to be vegan

>>41901278
Nice try, but not quite.

Your reply to my post was quite literally dumb as shit.

No unfunny meme comeback can change that.

>>41878323
>no fat
>no cholesterol
This explains why vegans are balls to the wall retarded.

>>41901297

Maybe if you weren't such a fat dumb fucking cuck you would know that your own lipids are metabolized for proper organ function.
Dietary cholesterol is useless, humans synthesize their own cholesterol.

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>>41901295
>I win cause I'm literally TOO INTELLIGENT to give a proper response when absolutely btfo

>>41879179
what.. the fuck is that...on his legs?!?!????????????!

>>41901297
That lentil-steak comparison was only made in order to showcase just how much money you can save and how much better for the enviroment it is if you substitute steak with lentils, it is by no means the only thing you should eat as an omnivore or as a vegetarian/vegan.
I mean, nuts have plenty of fats m8.

What I want to know is why omnivores come to a vegan thread, derail it completely with their shit-tier arguments, and then have the gall to call vegans preachy and insufferable.

Back to topic - what's some good vegan protein powders? Is pea any good?

>>41901338
I realize you might be thinking "haha! he's falling the the bait!".. But what do you actually get out of replying like this?

I'm genuinely curious... Does it amuse you? Do you feel good inside thinking other people will find it amusing? Or do you actually think you're outsmarting people?

(srs)

>>41901396
My protein pea protein powder is cheaper than whey even when adjusted for pouch size protein content and PDCAAS rating
Bulk powders are also dirt cheap

>>41901396
I think it's because they say things like "NO MEAT EATERS ALLOWED"... Coupled with an image in the OP that is literally trying to insult meat eaters.. The vegans invite it.

But yeah. I'm not vegan.. But I bought my dad vegan protein for his birthday. There's one called "vegan blend" by bulkpowders.

It's pea, brown rice and hemp all in one. Apparently better than just pea and according to him tastes more like a normal drink.

Pea is definitely cheaper though.

>>41898635
It's not hypocrisy. The cows are free to fight back.

>>41901396

Pea protein is pretty good, only problem with it is maybe the flavour but desu I always use pea protein unflavoured with chocolate soy milk for a protein shake or even just use some in soups/stew.

Mostly just get it from supermarkets when it's super cheap, or online which is basically the same price.

>>41901469
If the aliens sat down with us in a round table and told us "we can eat you, or we can eat plants and take a single 2¢ pill per day", which would you choose?

>>41901869
A species war would start between the humans and the aliens.

We would never let them come here and eat our resources.

>>41901926
For the analogy to work you are supposed to think that the aliens are as stronger and more advanced than us as we are to cows. There is no war. If they choose to eat us they will.

>>41901986
Ah. I didn't realize I had to alter my answer to make your analogy work for you...

>>41878111
>being vegan
How does it feel knowing you are everyone's bitch?

>>41878111

I have to commend your persistence, OP. These threads are one of the only remaining reasons I get any entertainment out of using 4chan. Keep up the good work.