/fat/ Threads are Moving too Fast Edition

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First for visible gains while burning fat

I want to lift but only have access to dumbbells. Is there a good plan to follow?
>inb4 QTDDTOT
link it to me then you fucking nigger, it hasn't been on the fucking front page all day

fat fucks

How much should I drink? I'm up to about 1.5 gallons of water a day with a little ACV

>>41836215
Use the search feature you stupid fat piece of shit..?

>>41836227
It depends on your weight, buddy.

>>41836227
You should drink enough so your piss doesn't look strong, but rather like a very pale yellow. If too much like water then you are just going to be pissing too much. Nothing wrong with that, but annoying.

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im the best

what a fucking abysmal OP

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>age
>weight
>what are you going to do when you make it

>>41836273
>what a fucking abysmal OP
Did you click on the OP pic?
>I'm watching you

>>41836276
>>age
22
>>weight
79kg
>>what are you going to do when you make it
hop on a prewritten program and try to get stronk as fuck. barely making any strength gains right now (deficit is ~1000 calories)

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>OP isn't a fat wojack

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>>41836276
>28
>330
Live till I'm 90 with out the pain of my weight on my ankles.

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>>41836310
Are you guys this butthurt about my gif in the OP? Next time I'll use this picture and you will know that you caused this.

>>41836316
I'm barely on the cusp of being overweight, but I used to be obese. Honestly, once you lose the weight your quality of life will improve so much.

Keep up with your goal man. From someone who used to be super fat, I can tell you it's like night and day.

Good luck!

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imagine singlehandedly killing a general with your retarded shit

>>41836276
>31
>98kg

Maybe I'll finally have sex with someone. My goal is to not have diabetes complications, though.

>>41836363
>imagine singlehandedly killing a general with your retarded shit
Well you liked my last one, which was the last one.
Got to over 300 posts in record time.

>>41836276
>29
>195 lbs
>I'm gonna dress as cute as I am

>>41836276
>26
>210 at 6 foot.
>I need to fucking diet and I suck at this. I need to stop sucking.

>>41836276
>21
>225 lbs
>Look at myself in the mirror and say "Hey, not that bad!"

Do we have a discord? Can I make a discord if there isnt one?

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>>41836276
>age
21
>weight
97.5kg
>what are you going to do when you make it
Go to uni naked or at least semi-naked

>>41836513
JOIN THE DISCORD

https://discord dot gg/tECCTD

>>41836513
>>41836620
Why?

We have a discussion here, in this thread. That's why it exists.

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>just ate 8 doughnuts that my aunt brought over

>>41836637
real time discussion in the discord and no fucking captcha

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As the week progresses I remove items from lunch and dinner, then lunch altogether, like some sort of diet minimalism. Yesterday I only ate 2 items. I'm not doing it on purpose it just happens every week that I do this. Having a cheat day tomorrow to see if that helps my headspace.

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I FUCKING HATE LOSING WEIGHT
>88,6 kg a month ago
>86,6 kg the beginning of the month
>BACK TO 88,1 kg EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING IN MY DIET AND ONLY HAD ONE (1) CHEAT DAY
Is maybe my scale broken or am I just to retarded to lose weight?

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i take multivitamins because i probably miss some shit in my meals

should i take them in the mornings or when i go to bed

>>41836227
unless you are 7 foot tall or you work in the sun all day you are just taxing you kidneys bro

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>>41836276
>25
>240
at 2 lbs per month maybe by 2019

JOIN THE DISCORD
>JOIN THE DISCORD
JOIN THE DISCORD
>JOIN THE DISCORD

https://discord.gg/tECCTD

>>41836703
your deficit isnt big enough because you miscalculated ur tdee or are not logging correctly. or it's a plateau
>>41836691
this is me btw. who else is on here? plz post updates.

>>41836706
it doesnt matter you fat fuck

>>41836276
>age
18
>weight
down to 57kg @ 160cm
127lbs @ 5`3
>what are you going to do when you make it
Get into T-rex mode an improove my climbing performance on bike.
Yes, I pretty much made it already, nobullypls.

>>41836637
discord is for cretins who want to be a part of a secret club, redditors who cant stand being anonymous

>>41836731
wont taking them at night make my tummy work and keep me awake?

>>41836732
Yea but you're a manlet, or rather a literal midget, so you might as well kill yourself

>>41836735
just drink some pepper honey water every night a 9 PM and all the fat will burn off, remember to put plastic wrap on your stomach

>>41836739
>implying not all climbers are small
>implying you could even stay in my slipstream at this point

>>41836749
>implying I give a fuck about climbing some stupid ass mountain when girls only cream themselves when you're at least 6 feet tall.

>>41836760
>implying girls are my goal

>waiting for the inevitable confess post

>>41836209
iktf
feels good

>>41836276
23
240
tough mudder

Will eating two hard-boiled eggs per day, each day, give me a heart attack? I need to find a second good source of protein because I'm going crazy from eating cottage cheese every day.

>>41836809
fuck no

>cottage cheese
>eggs
are you the poor vegetarian from before?

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Confess

and join the discord

https://discord dot gg/tECCTD

>>41836276
24
320pounds (SW was 375)
I'm just gonna finish a bunch of shit. I'm gonna travel, I'm gonna finish creative projects I started and take on some new ones. I'm gonna fuck that one girl I keep seeing around the music venues in my town. I'm gonna read longer books. I'm gonna plan my finances for the next 5 years.

It's all about becoming a better person. Taking control of your life. Being healthy will help me achieve my actual life goals. I'm not getting fit to be fit, I'm getting fit because it makes you a better person.

>>41836832
>are you the poor vegetarian from before?

Nope, just a random fatass who started on the long hard road. I do allow myself a cheat meal every now and then, and when I do, it's usually a nice juicy steak. Can't eat that for a daily diet though, so I'm looking at alternatives that are low cal and high in protein. Eggs and cottage cheese seem to fit the bill just right.

>>41836836
Forgive me /fat/her, for I have sinned. Had a hefty beef steak with baked potatoes and gravy yesterday.

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>>41836667

>>41836836
Forgive me /fat/her for I have sinned

I consumed between 10-14 cheap beers last night and ate a huge bbq cheeseburger from Whataburger.

>>41836723
>>41836836
The discord is redundant. Nobody responded positively when you asked about making one because nobody cared. Take a hint.

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>MOM JUST MADE FRIED CHICKEN WITH FRENCH FRIES

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How much of a deficit is to much of a deficit?

>>41836936
Moments like these are when you find out whether you've got what it takes to make it. Don't give in to the fried jew, resist the temptations of the flesh.

>>41836971
Are you dying of malnutrition? No? Then you can go lower. No pain, no gain.

>>41836915
whey protein????????
Chicken breast???????
What the fuck is your problem my man

>>41836276
>19
>254lb

I just want to wear a tank top once in public.

>>41836971
>3000kcal goal
What the fuck?

>>41837031
this desu
who is cutting at that calorie count?

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800 calorie deficit, how did I do guys?

>>41837031
That's the default, how much I burn while sedentary

>>41837046
what up calum von moger always wanted to meet you

>>41836931
lmao texas brah i know those exact feels. tomorrow will be 10 beers and bbq fajita tacos

>>41837054
No I'm just 5'10 and weigh 210

>>41837061
>you put in exercise as part of a TDEE calculator
never gonna make it

>>41837061
Your tdee is like 2300. Never count exercise since cals burned are always wildly overestimated.

How often do you change up your TDEE deficit? Every 10 lbs lost? Every time you stall?

>>41837127
Thanks, I'll fix that.

What exercises should I do when I wake up in the morning? Poorfag so I have no equipment
Trying to get in shape for the police academy

>>41837145
I like to start my mornings with some light calisthenics, leaving the heavy stuff for the afternoons. I usually do a quick routine of jumping jacks, squats, sit-ups and push-ups, about 15-20 of each. Nothing major, but really helps getting the blood flowing and the energy going.

>>41837161
Thanks anon. Another question, how often should I exercise a day? Bearing in mind days I have to work too

>>41836276
27
234
Idk, all that I want to accomplish right now depends on events within the next few weeks. If I accomplish that, well I still don't know what I want to do really...

>>41836276
>22
>190 at 5'5
>Probably get better clothes and hopefully the game I spit now will land me some chicks that will be interested in normal looking me.

>>41836276
20
226 (started cutting at 253, all-time max 280)
go to anime cons and fuck cosplayers. maybe get a gf. enjoy life without the constant knowledge that my own existence repulses people when they look at me

I expected this but I was retaining 4 lbs of water for days until this morning, which is why I refused to weigh in Friday. My body is too whacky for a weekly competition.

I ate well today and fluids continue to expel quite efficiently but I'm trying not to weigh myself until after my occupational exam. Trying to keep my spirits high for the test.

Could use some self control motivation.

>>41836276
24
141 lbs
be the skinny chick in my friend group again

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Thought about a previous /fat/ thread, went to the fridge, cracked every beer I had, poured them down the sink while saying "BEGONE FAT FUCKERY" to each one.

It's on now, lads. What foods are you /fat/ggots staying away from?

>tfw have to do weekly sunday weigh in but still full with two days worth of shit
after I shit hopefully soon, I pray I'll be under 88kg

>>41837538
>throwing away delicious sappora
damn nigga. that's brave and kinda wasteful. Oh well at least you won't drink it now. Good luck m8.

>>41837706
I know what you mean, and it was wasteful, but it had to be done.

>>41837690
get some laxatives and eat some colon blow

My TDEE is around 1500 kcal... I want to kill myself.

>>41837879
I had some psyllium husk last night but nothing yet

>>41837897
S-E MICH
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M
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I'm weak, in order to not eat out of boredom i need games or movies to kill time. I'm about to buy a game that has at least 60 hours of gameplay. I do understand that it is desireable to replace gaming with other activities but i'm just not there yet.

>>41837930
imo playing vidya is absolutely fine if it's a conscious decision made on your part. For me, playing dark souls 3 currently and it really helps keep my mind off of binging, particularly when my insulin sensitivity is going crazy. Just know the tradeoffs and then make the decision you think is best for yourself and your goals. Obviously don't go overboard with vidya, so no late nights, no shitty sneks. a social or physical or creative hobby might have "better" gains, so strongly consider that in due time.

What's up friends?

Went to the gym a few hours ago. Lifted for 45 and then did 30 minutes of biking. It was a good meme.

Come home, my dog who was attacked by a pit bull this morning is having a seizure. Time to go to the animal hospital!

Now that I'm home I'm hungry as fuck and devouring bacon, chicken, and veggies. But the three hours of working out and now I was startvvvvvvving. I flirted with the idea of not eating and letting my body eat itself while I slept but couldn't do it.

Thinking about the keto meme. Anybody recommend?

My 14 year old nephew touched his mother while she was sleeping. Comments?

>>41837538
I'm gonna borrow that. Anytime something shitty tries to reason it's way into my fat gullet I will simply scream "BEGONE FAT FUCKERY"

>>41838032
>touched his mother
go on

>>41838042
He touched her breasts. I can't sleep. Ik him being a curious male who is with his single mother most of the time has a lot to do with it but I'm terrified of him becomimg a predator or trying to "express" himself with some girl and ending up in jail.

>>41836703
>cheat day
>day
Chances are you ate a lot of shit high in sodium which made you retain water

>>41838059
Shit man I'm sorry about this stuff. What does you sister think about all this? Maybe have a heart to heart talk with the kid?

I haven't been sleeping properly /fat/bros. I've been sleeping max 6-7 hours either after coming back from school or a little before evening. Tried to fix my sleep by waiting until a bit before midnight and reducing the sleeping hours during the day but shit hit the fan and i ended up waking up at 2 am and staying up all night sleep deprived and the cycle continued. I can't seem to get the 8 hours of sleep either, maybe from feeling guilty about sleeping before night time. I'm still losing weight but i have a strong feeling that most of it is muscle. How do i fix this?

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>>41836187
Came back from a jog.
2km (1 1/4 mile) at a 9 minutes mile pace.
Better than nothing. At least I went.
Will eat lightly for lunch and do some elliptical bike and skip diner.
How's /fat/'s morning ?

>i'm going to do my 30-day fast
>fuck up on third day
>okay i'll start it again tomorrow
>just ate tuna wrap, hot dogs and crackers
fucking shit.

>>41837195
Unless you're trying to become an athlete, a quick daily morning exercise, 3-4 proper exercise sessions a week with rest days between them, and the occasional bit of cardio should be all you need to get into shape.

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>vending machine cucked me and stole my money
I guess its for the greater good

>>41837538
It's not the booze that makes people fat, it's all the shit they eat along with it. Should've kept those beers and rewarded yourself with one of them every once in a while.

>>41838228
It only stole your money because it cares for you, anon. Take that as a sign. Other machines might not be as caring.

>>41838200
>30 day fast
m8 are you retarded?

>>41838252
why would i be retarded

>>41838254
>30 day fast

>>41838268
with water

6'6" 249 lbs I've lost 26 lbs so far but my fat loss has stagnated over the past 3 weeks, REEEEEEEEEE what should I do, I've already cut my cals by 300

>>41838279
Lift weights.

>>41838274
Yeah, and no nutrients. Best case scenario, you'll end up with serious stomach problems and a fucked digestive system, plus the usual symptoms of malnutrition. Worst case, you'll fuck something up permanently. Either way, chances are you'll come out less healthy than you went in, which defeats the whole point.

>>41838323
I do, 189kg DL, 150 squat, 110kg Bench, and a 65kg OHP

>>41838252
fucking idiot

kys

>>41838343
180KG deadlift*

>>41838336
do you even know why the body stores fat? that's nutrition right there for the body to use. the rest is bullshit.

i've needed a lot of convincing but after researching properly about it i can't help but want to make it to that 30 days to see the results.

>>41836209
Looks like local supply

>>41838358
alright anon do your 30 day fast. it's extremely unhealthy but do as you wish. You'll yoyo and break and binge (like you just did) and it most likely won't help you out in any meaningful way but you are more than welcome to try it out.

>>41838358
All you get from fat is energy and the nutrients that are fat soluble. However, most of them aren't, and only enter your system as they're absorbed from food. I've done prolonged fasting, and I can tell you from experience that it's not a healthy thing. A few days is fine, maybe even a week if you've got good nutrition otherwise, but going longer than that with nothing but pure water is not a path towards health. At least take supplements to get the rda of the basic vitamins and minerals.

>>41838391
that is the thing. i have to stop caving in and control myself. i've seen before and after pics on r/fasting, and they lose immense weight.

>>41838412
i don't see the logic here. most of the things you need can be taken from fat. if you have fat, you have energy for your body to expend. i've read a lot of people's experiences with a 21-30 day fast and they are new people now

>>41838443
You need more than just calories. Otherwise your body will start shutting down, as your basic vital functions start falling behind. Do what you will, it's your body and all, just be aware of the risk.

>>41836276
25
206lb 6"2
going to the beach without a fucking shirt to cover my disgusting belly and manboobs

>>41838453
my body wouldn't shut down if i have fat for it to live on, lol. that literally makes no sense.

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I think so many people are fat because the face is often spared, if most fat went to your face before your belly, thighs etc and made you ugly everyone would be skinny.

>>41836276
>age
22
>weight
87kg (started at 103)
>do
There is a local dating site that allows nudity and porn etc I'm planing to start there with my bodypics, then tinder. Also will finally start lifting on calorie surplus

>>41838443
If you water fast for that long, you will lose a lot of weight. No doubt. But it's very unhealthy mindset man. You're just moving from binging to fasting, unhealthy habit to unhealthy habit. You need to gain a healthy relationship with you food and your body. Just read the sticky and eat at a deficit for a while with healthy food that you like. At least try to learn something meaningful like, and when it works, you'll be genuinely glad that you did. Trust me.

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What do you guys think? This is about as low a kilojoule content as I can go while managing hunger but thoughts on my actual food choices?

What are some good ideas for very low calorie but satisfying lunches? At the moment I just have a few small snacks (grapes, cup-of-soup, cheese + crackers) spaced out over a few hours which is fine at work but my macros are all skewed.

I have tried things like canned tuna for protein but it has absolutely zero impact on my hunger

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First time doing squats after 7 years, I feel like a fucking cripple crawling up and down my stairs the day after, does it get better with time?

>>41838572
It doesn't get better. However, you do.

>a thread for fat people
>moving fast

>>41838579
Fug, atleast I will get some strong arms by lifting my fatass up the stairs for the rest of the year.

>eat like shit for three days (planned in advance, no biggie)
>still weigh myself during those three days
>100.4 kg each of those three days
>was 97.9kg
>whatever, it's just water weight, I'll be back down in a couple days
>last day of those three days was the 9th June
>weigh myself today: 98.1kg

It took me roughly 9 days to undo three days worth of damage and it's still not down to where it was

I also don't see how it's possible for the weight to simultaneously be at where it was before I fucked up yet my pants feel looser and I can see more of my ribcage, all it's doing is demoralising me but I have no better objective measure of the overall trend

I ate a bag of Ritz thin chips, I feel so fucking pathetic

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>>41836836
I downed two shawarmas and a small lava cake my mother bought. According to mfp its roughly 600-700 calories combined but the sugar makes me feel bad because I swore to not eat any pastries or sweets anymore.

>>41836809
No, it's the opposite. If you are at risk of heart disease you should eat eggs. There is no connection between food cholesterol and blood cholesterol.

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>>41836276
>23
>265 lbs
>go into modeling and/or acting, do cosplay, buy better shirts, help fatfucks make it by providing advice and motivation

>>41838717
>two shawarmas and a small lava cake
>600-700 kcals
You sure m8? Was it all from outside, or did you make it all at home? Outside shawarmas tend to be big and super calorific where I live.

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Should i start doing compound lifts even though i'm eating at a deficit and the gym closes often?
I'm concerned whether i should save my noob gains till i'm lean enough or start now

>>41836809
If you want to know more and have an hour to spend, here's a video that'll explain how the entire "eggs, red meat and fat cause circulatory and heart disease" is a scam that just wants to sell you something. The lifestyle of meat eaters is what gives them heart disease, if you compare sedentary McDonalds campers and /fit/ vegetarians, of course you'll get the prevalent statistics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc1XsO3mxX8&feature=youtu.be

>>41836836

8 shots of vodka and caramel whiskey. I gotta get my Saturday nights under control.

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>>41838808
It was from a food stand on my way to the grocery and was roughly the size of my palm. But yeah you're right. It's really hard though since I crave for it more than hamburgers or usual amerifat food.

>>41838323
that shut you up, faggot

>>41838233
Nah, /fat/bro, it's the beer. I drink an insane amount of it. Damn near daily. I'm talking 3+ liters.

>tfw started eating better and lifting while getting into crypto currency
>making both health and wallet gains
Feels nice.

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>>41838859
>tfw too poor to get into wallet gains

>>41838868
All it takes is a few hundred to get into. It's an explosive market, but don't get into it if you aren't a NEET/have a job that lets you watch the market constantly. Imagine it like the stock market but 100x faster and more volatile. I made 100 bucks two days ago just by putting money into litecoin during a dip, and it just shot up.

>>41838853
I think your alcoholism is a bigger problem than your obesity ever would be
Good thing you can target both at the same time

>>41836276
20
166lbs
I'm never gonna make it

>>41838833
Oh man I fucking feel that. There's this absolutely unbelievable irani near me that serves the greatest kebab and hummus. You wouldn't believe how depressed I was when I realized that one kebab probably is 400-500 kcal. It's definitely a treat m8, but dw we'll make it.

>>41838882
That's the thing, I do not even have a few hundred to invest. I have to get a fucking loan to buy clothes and I have a job.

>>41838868
if you're in UK/EU look into matched betting

Does ordinary bacon have the same calories as honeycured bacon? I want to buy some but the processed ones are more expensive compared to the ordinary ones I saw at a meat shop.

just got home bros tried to hook up with some old (30) thick chick my cousin was fucking a while back but she didn't want to she kept talking about serious relationships and bullshit lol dumb bitch just didn't wanna fuck what's wrong with me bros i felt like she wanted to when i dropped her off she starred at me then got off and "left" something and bent over and stared at me again while bent over the seat never again am i gonna try to get at some girl fuck

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>>41838895
Maybe I'll just have it once a month probably. Or if it fits into my macros. I'm scared that I might end up binging if I keep holding off eating it for long.

>>41838815
Thank fuck for that, I've been eating 4 eggs a day on average and every single one I cracked I worried about my heart

>>41836276
> 28
> 122 kg or 270lbs
> Look good af in all the clothes I've wanted to wear... not as many back problems either.

>>41838937
I feel that m8, same here. Try being considerate about your insulin sensitivity when you have your cheat day. For me, it really helps get back on track with diet and prevent unplanned binging.

bms have been totally fucked since trying to lose weight. send help.

>>41838886
Damn, almost quads.

I think the bigger problem is I need to find some hobbies and shit. The drinking is mainly out of boredom or to give my ability to play vidya a run for its money.

Guess that's what a gym is for amirite?

>>41838717
Which is why I recommend not swearing off foods entirely. As long as you are mindful of what you eat and fit it into your calories, who is it gonna hurt to indulge in moderation rarely?

>>41838979
It's not really much of a cheat day tbqh. I try to at least set my TDEE (2500) as a ceiling but most of the time I don't meet it anyway.

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>>41839017
Good point. Since I have 850 calories left I think I'll have another one. Thanks anon

>>41836276
20
85kg
wear the clothes in my closet that won't fit me right now cos my man titties will peak through
wear anything besides black

>packaging said 150kcal
>website and MFP say 190kcal
fuck, what do I put down?

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>>41839061
>>>41839017 (You)
>Good point. Since I have 850 calories left I think I'll have another one. Thanks anon

M-moderation! Don't forget about moderation!

>>41839095
170

>>41839095
Packaging is legally binding, but you probably want to use the larger figure to prevent going over

>scale weight has been staying the same for a month now
>but I'm visually getting fatter

I think I'm losing all my muscle again.

>>41839117
>calories
are you counting/underestimating?
>water weight
have you reduced sodium intake?
>plateau
have you looked into shocking your body by changing routine and diet and researching it?

>>41839108
I didn't. Making a sriracha tuna omelette right now though

>>41839135
>have you looked into shocking your body
yeah just let me stick a fork into the wall socket and I'll drop 50lbs in a day

>>41839149

fine, stay fat forever, but don't come bitching about it here

been drinking like a madman
pissing every 20 minutes
hope nothing is wrong

>>41839149
>not dropping a cheeky toaster into your bathtub
never gonna make it

>>41836276
>22
>154lbs

I lift so I'm not actually overweight at this weigh. But still on a cut and I wanna be in excellent shape in 2 months when I go visit my parents for the first time in a year.

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>>41838146
Reduce all screen usage 30 minutes before sleeping. Set a sleep schedule that you must follow every single day. Aim for 7-7 and 1/2 hours of sleep, and set your alarm accordingly. Best of luck

>>41836276
> 27
> 252 (6' 3")
> brush my teeth and be amazed that nothing is jiggling

>>41838474
The body needs more than just the stuff stored in fat. Vitamins B+C are water soluble, not fat soluble so you aren't going to get those for 30 days.

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>>41838806
>help fatfucks make it by providing advice and motivation

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>>41838929
What did I just read?

>>41838688
visual appearance is best metric, weight will be trolled my water etc, if u are like me and dont see any visual changes then u best move to tracking your dimensions using tape measure and a jurnal because its gona be a long ride w/o it.
>still have 10 kg more till i blast to goal weight. might only go to 7kg and recomb because ill be back from summer by the time i expect to lose the 7...
>>5'5" manlet @71kg...

>>41839171
The body can get injured by drinking too much water. I'd hold off just a little bit. What color is your urine?

>>41839448
crystal clear

>>41839453
Yeah you might want to cut back until it becomes a pale yellow, as the water intake is too high.

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To my fellow /fat/fucks here who lift, does any of you take creatine? If yes, has it helped you get better results? And how often do you take it in a day?

>>41839592
Fuck off it's barely gonna do shit for you, eat less

>>41839592
wait til you start bulking unless your'e made of money

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>>41839670
I'm running on a 1k deficit right now. I just wondered if creatine would help add more to my progress and performance.

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>>41839706
I'm gonna give it to you straight, anon.
If you study the chemical composition and reaction of the body to creatine (mono is the most common for males), you'll notice it works by dumping a water molecule inside the muscle tissue which enlarges it and helps basically stretch out the muscle during effort, which in return gives that external look of a big pump going on, and is claimed to accelerate muscle growth in the long run (by stretching muscle tissue and filling it in with water until it grows).
Then there are those who say creatine gives you a puffy look, as expect with the water retention that comes with it, so expect a few pounds of water weight, and the bloated look.
There are different sorts of creatine, like ethyl ester HCL which is mostly used by women, that binds the creatine to a salt molecule rather than a water one. I've heard this helps resolve the water retention and puffiness issue, and proposes a leaner, more vascular look.
This is what I could make out of a lot of reviews and a chemical engineer specialized in nutrition and fitness's (who also designs supplements for major brands) opinion.
So basically creatine is more of a placebo aesthetic enhancer that'll probably make you feel like you're making a lot of progress, and thus will trigger a boost in motivation, rather than an actual muscle building supplement.

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>Want to go for a walk
>It's 1.5º C outside

I think i'll wait a couple of hours

Does IF actually work? Should I still count calories?

>>41836215
use the catalog dude its literally at the top.

What does /fat/ think of soylent? Thinking about trying nothing but soylent for a month, but I'm not too sure yet.

>>41839852
are you a speedrunner?

How to know when to stop cutting and start bulking?

I've lost 25+kg so far, but only been lifting for about 2 months. Therefore, I don't have much muscle definition. Will I even be able to see my abs once I get down to a lower bf% or should I just cut till about 60-65kg and then go bulk? 172cm.

>>41838123
She was in hysterics and blaming her parenting skills, but I was able to calm her down by telling her that she's not the first mom to have this happen to her and to not be embarrassed to talk about it because it needs to be dealt with quickly.

>>41839867
Well i wouldn't be opposed to losing weight faster, but i get that it's meant to be a slow patient process. just curious, is all.

>>41839892
keep on cutting while lifting, then bulk.
If you don't see abs this time around, you'll see them next cut, no big deal. Just lay out the clean slate, put in the ground work for a solid foundation by shedding the fat and building resistance to training up until you are low enough weight than you can safely bulk 20-25kg about 80% of which should be muscle if you're doing it right, then cut again and voilà abs...

>>41838443
fasts are fine. the only thing you need is a multi vitamin and electroltyes. you can do a spoon of salt every couple days or something. look that up but 30 days is fine and the max. after 30 is when your body will suffer some effects of lack of nutrients.

>>41836691
1.Why the fuck aren't you drinking plain black coffee?
2.Skim milk is fucking stupid.
3.Why the fuck are you eating cup o noodles? Look at that sodium.

>>41839944
okay, brass tacks
it's pancake batter with multivits stirred in, sold at a premium
if that's worth it to you, god speed

>>41839946
Sounds good. I'm still progressing solidly on lifts and went from barely being able to bench 15kg x3 to hitting 45kg for 12 reps today. Should I cut until I stall hard on my lifts or just some arbitrary "my stomach looks kinda flat, I should bulk" level? My stomach still extends past my chest, but it's in a flat line and I don't have my lard ass gut anymore. It's really hard for me to guesstimate this shit because I'm never been so in shape in my life.

>>41839852
well its industrial food byproducts with multivitamins. its nothing special. basically convenient packaged food. bit more more costly than cheap homemade food. but cheaper than storebought. at $1.54 per 400 kcal. if you buy in bulk.

you can try it for sure if you have issues with getting meals while away from home. as its power + water.

and if you are hard and dont cheat, i can see it working very well as you will get bored of it and only eat for hunger. but i assume you need to supplement it with a balanced diet. bc of fiber and other elements, donno how complet soylent is.

>>41840003
it's basic mathematics, I don't have the stats and can't be fucked doing it for you but I'll give you a general formula to go by.

>calculate current bf%.
>calculate 15%bf weight for your build (find the right measurements you want to be in, amount of fat and muscle mass ratio).
>determine through basic substraction how many kgs you should be losing to reach that (taking into account a 20% muscle loss ratio in cutting, so overshoot by 20%).
>result is how much weight you have to lose.

Protip : you have to keep checking through measurements that you're not losing more muscle than fat, if so, reconsider the deficit and macros and adjust until you are at a steadier pace (the calculation is basically to take the amount in kg your muscle mass loss expectancy is, then divide it into a timeframe of when you want to reach that goal, for exemple no more than 0.300g loss of muscle/month) then if you see that by your measurements your muscle mass % has decreased under that estimated 20% over a period of time guideline, tweak deficit on the higher side to slow down the process and conserve as much as you can.

Sounds difficult, but if you sit down and do the math, it won't take more than 15 minutes and you'll have a mathematical statistical overview of what you should be doing/seeing as a result for the rest of the cut. Same process applied inversely to bf% when bulking.

>noodle arms and lower ribs starting to poke out
>stomach still extends past chest and stubborn love handles remain
Oh for fuck's sake, how am I supposed to get rid of this shit without ending up full Auschwitz?

>>41840119
Cheers, I appreciate the time it took to write that out. One thing though, would doing the neck and waist measurement type of bf% calc be alright? I don't want to buy calipers and wait a week for delivery if I can do it now and be fairly accurate.

>>41840128
lift

how can you review food?
it's pointless, taste is arguably the most subjective thing about us

go for the bf% calculator that uses :

>neck
>waist
>hip
>thigh
>forearm

the more stats you can get, the more accurate it'll have a chance to be. Until you can get calipers, this is a good fix to use now, but only temporarily. It's important that you do get it if you really want to have weapons grade autism and maximise chances of success while optimizing results.

>>41840144
see
>>41840189
forgot to link, my bad.

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>>41840094
>>41839981
good to know. i still think i might at least try it some time down the road; if i do i'll be sure to give results.

Did cardio in gym 1-2 times a week for 3 months. Rowing, jogging, bike.
Decided to go to school stadium and do HIIT sprints. 80 meters spring and walk back 10 times.
After first 2 sprints my left arm below shoulder started to hurt, after 4th/5th middle of my upper back started to hurt and on last 2 I felt like my left kidney was giving out.
Is this normal if I'm doing sprints for first time? Last time I ran this fast was like 5-6 years ago

I think I'm going to try and get a job in a kitchen, /fat/ I don't know if my new found obsession with nutrition and healthy food has anything to do with it.

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>>41839790

Noted. Thanks for the explanation, anon.

>>41840189
>>41840209
Cheers. I ran it through a few calculators. It turns out that according to the stats I pulled I'm actually closer to 15.9% which is fuckloads lower than I estimated. I thought I was over 20% still. I'll take the measurements a couple more times to see, but this should mean I'm not far off now.

>>41840246
I got a job in a upscale-casual bakery after a couple years of losing weight. I cook all my meals at home and got into baking to recreate fat desserts in a way that'd fit my caloric limit. Then I'd sale some desserts (healthy and unhealthy versions) on the side. Then I got into decorating them so I could charge an extra 20 on top. Now I decorate cakes and make bread for a living.

>>41840246
>tfw eating healthy forced for to learn how to cook and prepare meals
>tfw as long as I'm not tired as fuck from work it's actually fun

Is there a food like oats that I can eat in the morning except less calorie dense?

Tell me what your breakfast is.

>>41840325
Did you go to school for baking? Would you recommend it?

>>41836276
>30
>180
>run on the beach shirtless

>>41840333
egg whites and turkey bacon are pretty low cal.

sometimes ill mix a raw egg or two into hot rice, it gives you somewhat of a porridge feel that you might be used to with oatmeal and with soy sauce and salt mixed in, it's delicious and low cal

a medium sized avocado mashed with salt, pepper, and topped with roasted red peppers is one of my faves on top of low cal bread

large veggie egg white omelets are low cal and super filling

breakfast tacos are pretty low cal if you dont stuff them with potatoes and shit

theres always protein shakes

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So /fat/ wtf does this mean? I have put my details in the TDEE calculator, but I don't understand the slider at the bottom of the calculator? Am I going to be in a calorie deficit or surplus?

>>41840333
I make a breakfast smoothie of 50g of greens, half a frozen banana, 50g frozen mango, 40g full fat greek yogurt, 80g unsweetened flax milk and 10g of chia seeds. Also a little water if needed. Yesterday it was 225 calories. Sometimes I add extra things to the general form like shredded coconut, frozen pineapple, this seed blend, and raw cacao

>>41840358
Nope no schooling for baking.

Which is funny because everyone I work with did go through schooling. I thought of taking a decorating community college course but then one of them complimented me heavy on my rosette frosting and the owner said I did them the best but I'd learned how from a quick youtube tutorial. So if there's any technique I just google that shit and practice on my own to learn it for work.

>>41840333
I make coffee with a scoop and some stevia

Then I just wait till lunch.

don't envy you brits right now
the ones who are still /fat/ anyway

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>>41840412
You are giving me much hope.

>tfw leaving a career in finance for some dumb dream
We only live so long, I guess

>>41839592
Creatine always tore up my gut when I was lifting so I took it once and never again. No idea if its actually effective or just bullshit but I hear it makes you lose your hair.
>>41839828
IF is just skipping breakfast unless you are doing a 5:2 or some shit like that. Either way, you always count your calories and make sure your macros are on point.
>>41840128
Lift. I had the same problem and had to cut another 26 lbs. I started doing cable crunches too and it began to tighten up.
>>41840228
Smells a bit like a pinched nerve or something. Is it a numb, tingly feeling in your left arm? The kidney thing is probably a sidestitch. Work on where your feet are falling and your running form.
>>41840378
That hard to understand? You're not eating enough, dude. Also you should always be on sedentary when calculating this shit. The slides basically mean 'if you eat like this you're not going to have energy and you're going to burn a lot of muscle.'

ate1800 cals guys, wanna kms

>>41840435
Different anon here.
It's always good to try out new things when it comes to work, especially when you're still young.
Sure that finance job will probably net you more than enough money, but damn man. It's a finance career. Fuck that shit and do some shit that's fun for you. Don't be a wageslave.

>>41840439
I didn't put any food related items on here. All I put was weight, bf% and activity levels. I eat roughly 1200-1500 calories a day according to mfp.

>>41840473
I ate over 2500 worth of shit in one night during e3. I had hot diarrhea next morning and was over 2 kg heavier. I feel like I only now got bakc to where I was after that

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how do you control your anxiety for eating?

>>41836836
I had a large carne asada burrito yesterday senpai
Dont know how much i ate at all but its gotta be more than my deficit

Poured beer in my glass but forget to rinse it after having a shake this morning. Now my beer tastes like vanilla. Fuck.

>>41840497
that's my biggest fear

>>41840532
happened to me last night as well

>>41840435
I'd try doing what I did first and making cakes on the side. At first it was just word of mouth from some friends but then I made little cards and sold that shit more for real. It was especially helpful because in my first interview and other interviews I've had bosses ask for pictures of my cakes and kids from culinary schooling obviously have that and I was able to as well.

Also don't be a little bitch about dishes. I've seen so many fired because they're little bitches about doing their dishes. Good third of the job is just cleaning up after yourself.

>18 5"10
>170 Pounds
>Buy nicer clothes, do more outdoor activities, try to cosplay when I get the chance.

>>41840494
Its because you put in a numerical value for 'caloric deficit' and 'caloric intake target.' If you are eating correctly, fix those and you'll see the bars move.
>>41840502
Drink an obscene amount of cold water. Optional - propel water, flavored fruity shit. That or expand on what 'anxiety for eating' means.

>>41840553
I was going to try and get my in as a dishwasher or prep cook, I've always been a "clean as you go" kind of person. Cooking is a lot less a pain when you only have a pan or two to wash at the end instead of 5 or 6.

I need to lose more weight, more fat.
Bralettes are absolutely adorable and i need them.

>>41840639
Keto.

>>41840639
Do you have tiny boobs, anon? Otherwise you'll just look silly regardless of weight loss

>>41840571
But anon what is the point of the calculator if I can't use it to tell me if I am eating too much or not enough?

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>>41840571
soz forgot to include pic

>>41840604
Sure do you. I know first job I went right away from foh to cakes/decorating and then after a year at that place I put in for a higher paying downtown place and was able to bake there. But I was only able to move that quick because I knew so much about baking from my own experience.

A lot of owners hate to teach you so if it's between teaching a dishwasher how to frost vs hiring someone new that already knows that shit they're gonna usually pick new. That's why I say maybe pick up some books, watch some bakers on youtube frost and knead to pick up some baking techniques, practice a lot of recipes on your own and try fucking them up on purpose just to see what happens. Like switching baking soda for baking powder will give a darker color and sometimes less rise depending on the acidity of your recipe (it's why if you use buttermilk it's usually with baking soda but if it's just regular milk use baking powder, but often you use a mix of the two).

Like yeah go in for it but just realize it helps to learn a lot of shit on your own because restaurants are busy and some people hate teaching and won't show you shit.

>>41840502
anxiety for eating or eating for anxiety?
i don't suffer from the former

>>41840704
thanks for the tips, anon. I'll do some research and practice a lot while I wait for my current contract to end

>>41836276
>19
>160 (at 5'8)
>go to the beach without a shirt because I haven't taken my shirt off in public in at least 7 years

>>41836276
27
157
uh... i dunno, keep going

holy fucking shit I cant stop myself from eating ever since I started PSMF. It's like I just want to train and eat 5k+ calories all day. I don't even need sleep anymore

>>41836276
>19
>205
>Get a gf but that won't happen because making it doesn't cure autism

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My gym canceled my membership for not going for months. Do I just go back and get a renewed or should I just find a new gym and start fresh?

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I'm 6'6" 250lbs at 24.4% bodyfat after being 280lbs at the end of January, but I've been stuck in a fat loss rut for the past 3-4 weeks. I was losing 1.8lb per week at 2400-2500 cals, but I've been see sawing over and under 250lbs recently. I've tried cutting my cals to 2100-2300, walking to the gym (5k round trip), and started walking my dad's dog of an evening for half an hour. But the scales still won't budge- I'd hoped to get down to 235lbs for my PHD graduation, but that seems out of the question now.


I'm tempted to add a 5k run 3x per week, but I'm concerned that it'll ruin my gym performance (I lift fairly heavy and have made some prs during my fat loss). I've tried more exercise, read all the faqs, cut my intake, but I'm still not changing.

>>41841568
I'd renew and go. That's a pretty legit gym that they cancel for you and stop charging you if you don't show up. So many gyms make money off of getting people into contracts and collecting their money after they stop showing up.

If it's got the equipment you need, good hours, decent people, then keep going and actually go fatty.

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>>41836187
>be german
>weigh myself

>>41841949
Fettsack.

>>41842012
Was denkst du warum ich hier bin?

>ate a plate of ribs yesterday
>scale says I've gained 5 pounds

Fucking water weight.

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>cut my portions in 3rds
>eat 1200-1500 cals a day
>only drink water
>exercise until I have blisters on my feet (they fucking hurt badly)
>weight isn't coming off

I just don't fucking understand

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5'8, 169 lbs, bf% 29-30

Will I have made it at 145lbs or do I need to go lower? Not lifting atm.

>>41842060
145 should be a good weight for you, but you need to start lifting asap.
and heavily focus on jefferson deadlifts/step ups and glute bridges/barbell hip thrusts in addition to squats and deadlifts

>>41842082
Will look into it, thanks anon

>>41842120
good luck anon. you have good hips, so a quality booty won't be hard for you

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>>41842060
>chestlet
Lmfao. Its over for you.

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meatballs in tomato sauce and rice for dinner

>>41842060
>That folded jeans/masculine boots combo

God damnit you're exactly the kind of chick that crushes on me until I develop feelings back and then you ghost me FUCK YOU
>>41842082
That said this anon has given good advice good luck anon

>age
23
>weight
145
>what are you going to do when you make it
slutty cosplays

>>41842152
Bitchtits aren't attractive on a trap.

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>normal person posts
>no replies
>girl (male) posts
>a whole conversation takes place

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>being super strict
>actually cut out all carbs
>haven't lost any weight in 2 weeks
i'm sure i'll lose 5 pounds out of nowhere soon but this shit is so frustrating.

>>41842222
>comparing boring normie posts to tiddieposters
never gonna make it

>>41842222
What do you expect? Millions of years of evolution are still acting on us. Luckily I have ascended by going full 2D.

>>41842188
Boogie is that you?

>>41842237
>being this desperate when whores get naked on camera on myfreecams and pornhub

I already made it

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>>41842152
A cups are perfectly okay, shut your dumb mouth

>>41842165
You might be boring, anon

>tfw i woke up today at 210 from 230, max 260 at one point a little over a year ago.

>>41842282
Pettan is also perfectly fine.

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>>41842152

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>>41836836
I binge ate to curb the suicidal thoughts again.

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>>41842292
You sure?

>>41842188
just kys tbqfwyn

>>41842340
Yeah, I'm positive now

>lose 100lb and 14in from waist
>parents say "gj losing weight anon, but dont overdo it, 38-40" might be ideal for you"
>go do cardio
why do people say these things

>>41836276
>age
21
>weight
105
>what are you going to do when you make it
Become Batman.

>>41842430
Because parents are retarded.

>>41842343
why would I?

>>41842060
Consider wearing long skirts and form fitting tops. You have wide hips and nice curves up top, but your legs are kinda thin or those jeans just fit you horribly.

>>41836276
>age
21
>weight
117lbs
>what are you going to do when you make it
Sleep all day, because that all I'll have the energy to do

Is it easier to lose weight in the summer? I've been pig sweating all day.

>>41842052
>>41842047
I suggest you both find some diurex and take one. Just one (they cause diarrhea too). My urinary system seemed to stop working for a whole week and I had been gaining pounds of water weight, but I took one diurex like 3 days ago and it kicked my fucking urinary back into shape. Been pissing like crazy even without drinking too much.

230lbs 6foot 22-24% bf
Is it okay to cut at a 1000 calorie deficit while on ec stack?

>>41842593
fuck, i think i need to do this. i'm convinced i have like 10 pounds of water weight that i can't shed.

>>41842608
By my morning weigh in the day after I took it, I had shed 4-5 lbs of water weight. It was a fucking relief.

>>41841949
Today is the day to start getting your health on track!

>tfw fattest goon in /fat/ by a country mile
417 right now. starting weight was 460.

>>41842607
Yeah, greg nuckols said you can lose something around 1% of your BW per week safely, but the general consensus is that it's safe to shed loads of weight in a big decifit until you reach around 15% bodyfat, after which your muscle is burnt away

>>41842687
Well done anon! Keep on going, I believe in you!

>>41842531
Its a slanted mirror that's warped near the ends, so my legs aren't that out of proportion (I think).

>>41842687
there is always someone fatter than you

>>41842593
I lost around 5 pounds at first, and I thought that was water weight. I just don't even know anymore

is this dangerous? i have been eating 600 cals a day and i lost 1.2 pounds in 3 days. im a girl btw, so thats why my tdee is low

>>41836276
26
85kg
I'm going to rub my abs up and down and spend hours looking at myself in the mirror

>>41836276
> 26
> 70kg
I'm going to dress like a skank and fuck everything that walks.

NEW THREAD:

>>41843348

>>41843348

>>41843348

>>41842687
go anon, keep it up!

>>41843338
Do you take bookings in advance?

>>41843386
kek'd softly

Day 1 of fasting let's do this boys.

>>41838505
I think a lot of trouble fat people have is that they see any weight loss as healthy.
Being at a healthy bodyfat is important for health and for most happiness, but health is far more complicated than how much fat you have on your body.

I understand the frustration of people who have been fat all their life but extreme measures will hurt your health and will fuck something up. It's far better for your mind and body to accustom yourself to a healthy lifestyle and stick to it, not water fast for a month straight.

>>41838474
t. Someone who isn't an idiot. Like the other anon said, not all nutrition can be stored in fat. We are not saying you're going to die, but you will be less healthy in a months time and will binge like a motherfucker.
What most obese people is not some magic fucking fast or DNP, what they need is to have a healthy relationship with food. I'm lucky because even though my relationship is healthy I was always the type of fatass who loved everything, so I could just eat greens all day and be fine.

>>41836836
Went on a trip with family and ate a gas station breakfast sandwhich, a sour airhead, salted dark chocolate caramel and now a burger with fries. I dont need to eat tomorrow i guess

>>41838815
>>41838946
I don't know if we have found statistical links yet but there are known mechanisms for the heme iron of red meat to fuck your shit up causing cancer.
t. Someone in science who isn't in biology but can actually read a paper for what it is.

Important to note that biomolecules are covalent and thus are relatively weak to many different things.
The whole logic of "they say everything is bad for you THUS everything can't be bad for you" is dumb, living things are not made to endure extremely long time spans. We are fragile.

Cholesterol has no statistical link to heart disease though for people who are otherwise healthy or active.

REEE THIS DIGITAL SCALE FUCKING SUCKS ASS

MOVE IT ONE INCH IT REMOVES 2 KILOS

Is there a scale that doesn't suck ass?

>>41843816
I have three and I use them all for my weekly weigh ins

does anyone have the greyskull image?

>>41836276
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Get big and stronk and fuck as many high school girls as possible before the end of my senior year next year.

>>41843465
I do what I can

>>41842430
they are afraid youll leave them behind