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>>41758268
Lizkatz

>>41759117
lemonparty.org

>>41759037
she really is, and sharing isn't really my thing. Got to find your own.

>>41759117
Any homeless man

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>>41758268
>watermark and Google gave nothing
Liz kat is literally the watermark

>>41759157
it's only katz actually

>>41759043
where can i find bibo porn whats his porn name ?

does HCG really help on fatloss or is it just hype?

If I'm ordering some to help my balls not shrink, would it be a dumb idea to get alittle extra for a cut?

>>41759292
No its not for cutting. You shouldn't use it for longer than necessary because of the risk of desensitization.

>>41759292
stupid idea, some extra test, loads of estrogen.
Really fucks with hormones too much to be worth it. just a hassle for very little benefit.

Mid cycle. Anadrol or superdrol for bulking? I have 13g left of adrol and 1g of sdrol

>>41759710
Both

Nearing the end of my first cycle. You guys were so gay with your overblown risk of gyno bullshit scares. Maube you pussies are just naturally prone to high estro. Kill yourselves

>>41759759
Hope you grow some really nice tits coming second cycle.

Bet it was babby's first 500mg.

If I decide to perms cruise cause fuck it we all die sometime do I need to worry about anything other than sticking test in my ass? I.e. Estrogen etc etc

>>41759754
100mg adrol + 50mg sdrol right?

>>41759804
200mg or lower should be fine estro wise.
Keep some AI on hand.

Do bloods.

>>41759807
Was thinking 200 would be perfect any preferred ai? Or find a couple and see which works best for this guy

>>41759805
Frontload 1g adrol and 0.5g sdrol

>>41759821
I like arimidex myself. Poor mans choice but it works. If gyno symptoms flare up just pop 0.5mg EoD till it goes away.

What kind of needles should i buy for injecting enan 250 e4d? Recommendations please

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IS SHE NATTY OR NOT

>>41759838
>e4d
Why?

Rich Piana said something long the lines of that he experienced the best growth when doing extremely high number of reps of 20-30+ or something and getting a hard burn going in the muscle.

I'm trying to find out why that is. What is the steroid doing to the muscle? Is there a decent article or anything about this?

>>41759830
Alright. Anyone happen to have a reference guide and or email to answer questions?

>>41759863
Its long ester. 3 would be simply too short, and 5 would be too long in my opinion, but again, im a newbie

Just finshed week 4 of my first cycle - test e, 600mg p/w.

Damn I wish I'd jumped on sooner. Loving it so far.

Still room for total disaster I suppose, but cannot see why more people don't do this shit.

>>41759838
And 25g 1/1.5inch seems what most use, i use 21g tho

>>41759292
No.
Stop taking info from forums ran by 40 year old moms

>>41759876
>too short
No such thing

>>41759864
It's semi true. Just go for whatever tears the most muscles.
High reps is easy for this.
Roids pump you up more, hence more stretch.

>>41759870
Do a google search on TrT or cruise preps.

>>41759885 elaborate on no such thing part

>>41759864
Lactic acid

Look it up

>>41759876
E3.5D is easier to follow (monday morning and thursday night)

>>41759870
You mean to work out your AI dose?

http://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/topic/267454-controlling-e2-its-actually-a-little-difficult/

Best guide I've read.

Worth saying too, I'm only on my first cycle and as someone who's lived through panic attacks/anxiety, and even worse, the meds the throw you on, I was a bit worried about high/low E2 sides.

Crashed my E2 to fuck when I started. Turns out I'm not E2 sensitive at all, so was taking WAY too much Adex. Was nothing majorly noticeable though, and I only realised due to reading a list of low E2 sides.

Major one was "dull orgasm". Literally really anti climactic and not much "power" to it. Now I've dropped the dose (and am actually flirting with high E2 on purpose for various reasons) it's the opposite. I actually hit the wall some 8ft behind me yesterday.

>>41759900
Pinning too frequently isnt a thing as long as the dosing is cinsistant because tge ester will only release so much per time basically

>>41759900
Injecting too often doesnt have a negative but it also doesnt make a difference

>>41759804

Just don't get slack and assume nothing will go bad.
I got a bit lazy and didn't do bloods for a while, and I got a fucking huge acne breakout over my back. But it was easy to fix.
Also give blood as often as possible because why the fuck not?

K thanks, but i still want to know about the needles

>>41759838

Depends how much of a man you are.

I go the typical 21g for draw, 25g for pin.
But a few weeks ago I left my 25g at home by accident so only had 21g to pin with, the difference in how fast the oil goes in is amazing, like no resistance on the plunger at all. But obviously 21g could hurt a lot more if you hit the wrong spot, so I still use 25g, the time it takes to push all the oil in is still no problem.

>>41759848
Easily possible desu.

>>41759899
>>41759906
Thanks. So I guess it's just that the more tear, the better roids work, where being natty relies on other mechanisms for growth? In my first cycle and want to get the most growth.

I might just lift light while on then, less chance of injury.

>>41759981
Thanks bae

>>41759848
High chance she isn't

>>41760006
>>41760022
?

>>41760011
I know muscle growth starts by tearing down.
Pumps on gear makes me sore as fuck.

my bro-science tho.

How do I convert powdered test into liquid test?

Hello everyone. It's a good day to do your best and be happy (●ω●)ノ

>>41760047
just snort it.

>>41760011
Roids increase your recovery.
All muscle gains are from muscle microrears. Da pump is your shit engorged with blood. More nutrients + tears

>>41760047
Powder + ba +bb + oil

>>41760053
<3

>>41760011
>>41760037
>>41760076
All you need to know for growth is the more total work done the more growth possible; where total work is weight x reps. If you lift 225 x5 that's 1125 total lbs lifted but let's say you can lift 190 x 8 that's actually 1520 total lbs lifted. You will see more growth from lifting 190 x 8 given that all other variables (sleep and nutrition, health, etc) remain constant.

When in doubt lift heavy for a lot of reps with drops.

>>41760058
But I dont want to grow a jew nose

Did you become a happier person after getting swole?

>>41760111
>he believes in absolute intensity
Easy there, bill starr

>>4176011
This. Thanks man.

Just go until you drop is ussually my way of approaching.

>>41760125
I became a bigger person.

>>41760125
No.
Youre the same failure but now you know you can apply yourself

>>41760154
>applied failure
Rly makes u think

>>41759043
why is there always "no source talk"?

Anyone on our asses or smth?

>>41760125
yes and no.

I know I look fine and love the way I'm living life.

That said fuck its never good enough.

>>41760125
i was a mess a year ago now im just a mess with a little bit more muscles.

>>41760162
Because it's illegal (๑꒪▿꒪)*

Is there anything wrong with using the same pin site throughout my whole cycle? I'm doing test prop and the pip isn't that bad at all so I'd rather just pin the one site throughout rather than changing them.

>>41760161
Nah I think its fairly obvious

>>41760282
Scar tissue.

>>41760282
scar tissue buildup leading to trapping oil in subq tissues meaning a higher chance of sterile abscesses or actual infections.

How do i deal with being sleepy as fuck after eating (theres not that much carbs in my food, but i eat them quick)? Im on IF, 2h window 2500kcal, cofee doesnt help. I eat between 15 and 17

>>41760309
>>41760312

Looks like I'll be changing sites then, thanks for the advice. How long can I get away with pinning the same site before running that risk?

>>41760359
I cannot tell how quickly you build up scar tissue lmao

what is sst

>>41760359
A few weeks ago.

>>41760359
Depends on you, depends on the gauge, depends on all sorts of shit. The more you pin the more you want to rorate though

>>41760351
Either goin hypo or hyper
Mess with your carbs

Who here started gear before age twenty-five?
I'll be twenty three next month. The earliest I'd do it is twenty four, but I still feel like that's rushing things. I started lifting when I was fifteen but didn't start seeing alot of growth in strength and size until last year. So again, who here started before twenty five? What was your experience like?

>>41760389
I started at 23. 26 now and I've barely grown. Don't do gear.

>>41760378
It's only my first week, that's why I'm asking now.
>>41760382
Thanks mate. Pinning EOD so I'll change them weekly and see how I go.

>>41760389
>pissing away your prime years in the fear of the HPTA meme

C R U I S E 4 L Y F E

>>41760389
Fag

>>41760389
im 19, starting next week

>>41760402
got any pre cycle pics ?

>>41760389
Ive been on roids for yeaaars
I weigh less now
Dont do roids

>>41760458
they did remove your legs so that makes sense that you'd weigh less dummy

>>41760467
Lol true
But since I have to walk on my hands now shouldnt my arms weigh more?
Muscle confusion and all that

I dont think Jerry exists

>>41760389
Started at 18, 22 now. Life goes back to normal when you stop, though it does take time to recover fully.

I HATE WHEY PROTEIN AND EATING CHICKEN ALL THE TIME SO MUCH

>>41760593
Not only do I exist, IM RIGHT BEHIND YOU!!!

>>41760649
Not this time, you big fagged up weirdo.

>>41760111
That's why marathon runners are so swole... Right? It's all about total workload

>>41760741
except that the 190lbs x 8 is still within 60% of your 1rm and thus still high-intensity.

a marathon runner is doing low intensity the whole time.

>>41760741
definitely the same concepts and physiological processes at play

>>41760309

"That I wish you saw, sarcastic Mister Know-It-All. Close your eyes and I'll kiss you 'cause, with the bird I'll share"

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>>41760949
>190 is still within 60%

Plz be kg

>>41761015
im just guessing if he does 225x5 then you can somewhat get a 1rm.

how quickly am I going to die on a psmf only drinking whey for every meal

>>41760949
I dont understand the scientific outlook
Just do compounds relatively heavy with lower reps and do fuck high reps on isolations for pump
Shit its worked for me as a natty,can only imagine it would work 10x on roids

>>41761100
yeah this is pretty much the gist of it.

>>41761100
basically what im doing, push pull hyper power

>>41759759
How much weight did you put on though friendo? I don't aromaize olive oil either

>>41761099
the guy from powerlifting to win did that go read his blog about it

>>41759981
21g draw needle + syringe and backload a 29g .5 inch slinpin

Anybody happen to know a good excuse to give the doctor when you're trying to get some prednisone?

>>41761562
why would you ever want a corticosteroid awful for the body in major respects

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>>41760955
I'm just pointing out the glaring hole in your argument.

It's really not about total workload, there's lots of different factors for muscle growth. The Russian lifters tend to stay between 70-85% 1RM (meaning 10+ reps would be more or less impossible for sets across) for the vast majority of their training, and obviously get great results from that.

I do agree that more reps per set is probably better than staying below 5 all the time, but I disagree that total tonnage is the driving factor behind it.

>>41761574

I finished a DNP cycle a few days ago to finish off a cut but only started getting hives and shit now. Honestly wouldn't care and would deal with it but shit is also on my scalp and it's making sleep a pain in the ass.

I also assume I won't live past my 40s and live my life like I won't

>>41761608
okay well go research it then big boy

>>41761628
I have. Here's a science driven article on the subject if you're interested. It's by greg cuckols. He's usually pretty on point with his research compilation in my experience

https://www.strongerbyscience.com/hypertrophy-range-fact-fiction/

Why do you take things so personally?

>>41761608
and who are you qualifying as "the Russian lifters"? because we're strictly speaking growth processes here and not technical application of strength or CNS adaptation. If you want to get big the key is to move more weight for more reps on a consistent basis, meaning more total work per workout.

>>41761666
I will read this only because hail Satan I'm actually taking things about as personally as you

decent research chem site that take cc? the one I used to use either died or don't take cc anymore-

need liquid pct stuff

>>41761910
blue sky

>>41761930
that's who i used to use, they only do echeck now

>>41761930
No sources fgt

>>41762180
PCT isn't illegal, so it's technically allowed, as long as the source for it doesn't sell illegal products.

dbol got me
>itchy nips
>12.5 aro a day
>all this on 25mg on dbol

Why lord, why?

And whats the consensus on dihydroboldenone? I hear that the pip is fucking terrible, but I really don't want to go through trensomia and biblical sweating.

Anyone try it?

Just started the following

12 week cutting cycle:

Test C 400mg x 12 wks

Tren E 600mg x 12 wks

Anavar 80mg ED x 4 wks

HCG 500iu x 12 wks

Anastrozole 1 mg M/W/F (dosed after testing and following up with my provider. Legit pharma script)

Sermorelin 9mg/300iu ED x 12 wks

Started yesterday and holy hell I can feel the anavar. Though I am getting weird af sides like a scratchy throat, slightly numb hands/feet/tongue.

Almost had me worried it was allergies but I have already taken multiple doses of the var and I know an allergic reaction would be way more severe.

low t fagot here. what can i expect by going on trt.
how does it feel to have high t?

Coming off cycle and will start test cyp for cruise what should my dosage be every week for a 6'3 235lb 36 year old?

>>41762865
pretty fuckin awesome.

>>41762885
like 125mg?
>>41762865
feels amazing

First time in like 20 pins this has happened, nicked a vein or something and a short spurt of blood when I pulled the needle out.

Was the injection wasted? Should I inject another half CC? It was a half CC of test the first time.

>>41763354
no and no

Why isn't MENT more popular?

If you can control the estro it seems like the go-to compound.

>>41763411
Sides, including prolactin that seems to affect many people more than tren. Also it is very effective in making you infertile. If there was going to be a chance of permanent infertility using steroids, it would be trest.

Also it's got a dumb name. Trest is like 10x cooler than 'MENT'

Would superdrol be a good addition to my tren bulk

is mostlyhomo still a fat shit?

>injecting right delt with left hand
>drop the syringe while needle is still in my delt


FUCK it hurts hello scar tissue

>>41759043
im crewing at glastonbury from next friday and will be there for ten days total. I'm planning to pin on site but i haven't decided if ill take a vial or if ill predraw a few syringes and take those. thoughts?

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>>41760661
meanposters are NOT allowed

>>41764050
post slutty boypuci

>>41763906
lol deltoid is always painless for me

>>41764175
me too but I ripped up the muscle by dropping the syringe while its still inside me

>>41764190
how tf does that even happen.

the needle should be locked on the syringe

Finally found a girl that I connected with but she ended up graduating, moving to Dallas, and I didn't want to do long distance. She was a 5'0'' blonde who did yoga and squatted like 4 times a week.

FUAKKK it makes me so mad shes dating a 26 year old crossfitter who runs a twitter account for a company and is going no where. I'm sitting here in college with my dick in my hand. Gonna go on a huge blast to channel my rage.

>>41764233
I mean my grip slipped so the syringe and needle were hanging from my delt

>invite exgf out after her exam
>>"It's not a date though."

I want to kill myself.

>>41763071
How long to feel awesome

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>>41764324
let me guess it jerked back and forth like a pendulum? lol

>>41764344
>mfw

>>41764362
depending on what ester test around 1-2 weeks.

>>41764365
My little heart cannot take this shit.

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>>41764378
>you're all going to see when i fuck her brains out

come on there mr

>>41764378
dude move the fuck on. you are pathetic and girls can smell that from a mile away

>>41764403
You can fuck off.

>>41764391
It'll happen.

>>41764344
>"it's not a date though"
>oh cool I was hoping not I'm bringing a lady friend or two along

>>41764418
bam

>>41764418
Well. I cancelled the day anyway, said I forgot I had other things planned. Asked her what days she was free, told her I'm going out with redhead girl wednesday (which I actually am) so she'll have to come out with me thursday.

>>41764415
Why did you two even break up in the first place?

>>41764443
>she tells you its not a date
>you cancel

jesus fucking christ..........

>>41763202
>>41763071

how does it feel to be high t? just an overall good sense of feeling?

>>41764457
I was a dumb motherfucker.

>>41764463
Jesus Christ not instantly you dumb fuck. I said it after a few more hours of chatting.

>>41764466
more motivation, you dont feel like a piece of shit, hornier, happier.

i mean you can still have shit days but its just a big mood improvement as well as motivation improvement.

>>41764468
Elaborate, I wanna know the context if you are constantly using fraud as a blog. Do you even roid man?

>>41764477
Still man..

>>41764443
you stepped in the same pile of shit you did yesterday at 1pm, you react to her. don't react just do man. you didn't need to cancel now you just seem angry that plans weren't going as planned. she's a g i r l when have they ever maintained any word they gave ever? the fact that she's going out with you needs to be the indicator of interest not whether or not she says it's a date, you determine that not her. you're free to change the mood and intensity of the setting however you please once you're with her. Now you've changed the setting 100% and she sees how much she gets to you. Also she's very much aware at this point that even if you are seeing this other ho you don't like her and she's just ex filler. you've stepped on literally every landmine dude.

>>41764481
is there any noticeable difference when you go past 1000 in the blood? im willing to bet there is diminishing returns on the good feels when it comes to test and other hormones

>>41764494
I agree with Bimbo.

>>41764514
i only ever been 300 ng/dl and then around 1200-1300 test.

i haven't had a blast yet so i don't know. I only know how its to be top natural test or low test.

how long before crusader watches his gf fuck bulls while he faps in the corner because its the closest he can get to actual sex with her

>>41764538
hold my beer ill breed her

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>crusaders face when

>>41761430
Do you use the same draw needle/syringe or switch out? I'm thinking about switching over to slinpins. Debating on backloading or just taking like 5 minutes to draw with the 29g needles

>>41760389
Every place ive read says 22 is the safe age to do a cycle

Are tren sides a meme? It's day 7 and I don't feel different just stronger.

>>41764750
Yeah we all know drugs show all their side effects by day 7

>>41764750
inb4
>I'm on tren E btw

>>41764791
Acetate is at peak levels in a few days

>>41764750
eat a bunch of carbs and try to sleep or go for a jog

>>41764808
anecdotally most report sides starting to dig in around 4-6 weeks

Thinking of doing my first cycle {12 weeks test e, last 6 with anavar, then standard pct} is it worth doing on a cut if I didn't do anything on the bulk? What can I expect to get out of it with a 1000 cal deficit?

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Why roid if no tranny gf? Grindr is just a bunch of fat fags. Tfw.

>>41764808
That doesn't mean shit. Do you think just because blood levels of a hormone peak that it's effects on the liver, kidneys, blood pressure, etc... become immediately apparent? That's not how it works.

Tren sides aren't overblown, they are what they are. Some guys like Bostin Loyd don't get any sides so they can run 12cc's of gear and have the physique of a pro heavyweight when they're 22. Some guys get sides on 350 tren and can't handle it.

>>41764837
it's a bummer tgirls are never like their pics

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why did she remove her penis....

>>41764852

A major bummer.

>>41764856

Because she wants to be a girl.

>>41764852
neither are most women, to be fair

but yeah it is pretty bad

>>41764852
bimbo you know a lot about grills, give some pointers to us lowly beings.

Oldschool guy with giant delts (desu looked like synthol but hopefully I'm just assuming the worst out of envy) asked me what I do for traps, said they looked huge for my overall development.

Fucking making it

>>41764943
I know literally zero things about girls other than I like them a lot

Is canary brah still around?

>gf left for a quarter to study abroad in Europe
>start my cycle while she was gone
>she returned last weekend
> during sex she was running her hands up and down my lats the entire time
> afterwards she comments on how much they've grown in the 10 weeks apart
>"yeah just been working out harder. I guess they grew"


thanks /fraud/

>>41765119
Best. Feeling. Ever.

>>41765119
>gf left for a quarter to study abroad in Europe

You know what girls do when they "study abroad" right?..

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havent done quad injection in ages and i managed to nick a pretty big vein today.

welp.

>>41765306
place your right hand on your right quad with your middle finger touching the top of your knee

roll your hand to the right

bottom of your hand is where you inject

works every time

Bimbo are you here? Want to pick your brain on finding a personal trainer gig.

So nobody still use liquid research chems for ai/PCT? Looking for a site that still does CC payment.

>>41765358
are you good at sales

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>gf stopped responding after I brought up calling her mommy and breastfeeding while she's whispering "good boy"

uhhh judgmental much?...

>>41765363
Wanted to ask in your estimation how hard is it to find a job with certification (ace or nasm?) But no prior experience. Willing to travel and find a new place to live if I can afford to at entry level.

For your question, Ive never done it before so I can't say. Worked service industry shit before and have no problems interacting with the public, that's about all I can say.

>>41765414
Nice role-playing dude

>>41765419
Pt jobs are less coaching and more maintaining membership subscription and a large client base. You need to be really good at marketing, interpersonal relationships and social media. You may need to pay gym rental fees and other overhead costs like business cards. if you aren't a natural at sales I don't feel it's worth it, if your passion is truly coaching you'll really have to either dig in at basic pt sales shit for a few years or maybe look into being a therapist.

But with those particular certs? Fairly easy.

>>41765484
Long term I'm going back through school and getting a solid degree, but for right now I'm working a framing job in order to live and save cash for.said degree, but it's not a job I really like.

Would rather spend all day in the gym helping little housewives and dyel Asians get fit. So can I make more than$12/ hour even if I'm shit at those qualities?

>>41765484
>>41765513
And thanks for taking the time to reply to my shit, really appreciate it.

>>41765513
>>41765528
Np dude

The big question is can you handle meeting sales quotas and giving people bullshit cookie cutter advice and programs? you wanna know why the average pt sucks? Because they have shitty expectations. Gyms aren't made to get people fit, they're membership mills. bring new people in, sign them up, lick them into a year contract w/ training sessions. pts numb up to clients because they have to deal with the same fat housewife archetype 8x a day. it's just as numbing as cashier work or anything else fairly remedial but if you're good at it, pay isn't bad. if you aren't hired by the gym some gyms do gym rentals (400-1000 bux depending) and you'll be dependent on attracting your own client base. This also means no base pay and you set your own commission. gl man.

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Had to waste a whatman to filter 15ml of tren. What a waste.

Work girlie and I are too fucking /comfy/ together. It's weird being actually comfortable and talking openly with a girl who's smart and driven instead of shallow. Nice change of pace, plus she's burriful as hell.

>>41765568
>pts numb up to clients because they have to deal with the same fat housewife archetype 8x a day
Hmmm. I've been told that before but I can't help but doubt it will happen to me. Worked as a cashier for years when I was younger and had no issues remaining positive with customers.

Do you have any idea what I should expect to make if a gym were to hire me directly? I'd rather do that first, since I have no experience, and on the side see if it's possible to build a client base. Thank god for AAS because I look fantastic to normals, I bet I can sell myself based on that at least.

>>41765414
we know who you are dude

you don't have a gf

>>41765604
>>41765568
Also I kinda like working out a lot. Would like to do that more, figure working at a gym might make that convenient. Am I wrong in this?

>>41765604
oh yeah totally i look like ass and people ask for my info 2-3x a week for coaching. it's not super tough but you'll want 30-40 people on rotation for coaching yo make good money especially if you have to pay a rental fee. if you're hired directly? 12-15/ hour starting plus sales commissions and bonuses probably it'll vary.

Is there too much difference between
Test-e 500mg + Deca 500mg
and
Test-e 500mg + Deca 250mg
Whats your opinion?

>>41760111
Louie Simmons pls go

>>41765637
That's more than I make now building houses as a fresh carpenter lmao. I may call some out of state gyms and see what they offer.

Which cert should I get, ace or nasm? Does it matter?

Think I'll be able to do crazy volume and work out all day? Have only had the energy for 4 decent sessions a week due to humping lumber and tools around 8+ hours a day. I miss working out with more frequency and volume.

Have a recurring sprain in my left glute. Every few months I'll do something that tweaks it and it takes at least a week to get back to doing anything significant for legs.

Think taking bpc-157 might help?

>>41765663
>If I double the dose, will anything happen
Take a guess anon

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>recently fell into a depression
>rebound pretty much all of the weight I lost in one week
>went from having abs to a small jiggly belly
>been eating heavily since
>stood in front of the mirror shirtless and watched myself eat three spoonfuls of peanut butter and a protein shake
>wasn't even that hungry
>how the fuck did I let myself go
>i'm a disgusting fucking pig

>back is in constant pain from the dramatic weight increase along with the var and superdrol pumps
>popped some melatonin and muscle relaxers
>waddle over to my bed in pain
>gonna wake up tomorrow at 5am and pray to god I can actually deadlift without crying in pain

>only in week 5 of 500 test e cycle
>was supposed to get shredded for a festival I'm going to next week
>not gonna happen now

>suicidal feels coming back now

Goodnight /fraud/. I hope your night has been better than mine

PAGING CATPISS

CHECK YOUR EMAL BRUH

>>41765779
Chill out, first.

Second, don't immediately jump into a hard cut. You want to take it slow. For many people, probably most, eating is tied to instinctive behavio. Unfortunately, or fortunately, we aren't our own slave. We can't just force ourselves to do anything, it simply doesn't work. The higher functioning mechanisms tend to be overridden by the lower order ones in stress.

Try less extreme cuts and avoid the yoyo diets. Go from maintenance and cut 100calories a day every week. When feeling confident, increase the rate. Be easy on yourself, take things slowly, and the results are more permanent, because you've built strong behavioral patterns in order for them to manifest.

>>41765779
it wasnt, good night

Why do people bitch about tren sides?
I'm 3 weeks in and have had nothing but strength gains and a rock solid boner
Sleep like a baby, haven't lost hair, not a single zit, no floppy dick (exact opposite actually) and no night sweats. What's the deal? I know my source is legit based on blood tests and anecdotal reviews. When do I get sides, or will they never come?
I'm running tren at ~450 a week and test at around 250 a week plus winstrol 50mg a day

>>41765637
Yo bimbsie do you still talk to CATPISS? He and I were working on An arrangement and now I can't get ahold of him at All, if you do still talk Could you shoot him a text and tell him he's got some emails from me on his hairyboipussy address that'll do a lot for his wallet ? You'd be saving my life man. Thanks dude.

>>41765851
done

>>41765829
Yeah I should've taken it slow. All I had in my mind was to finally get lean, so I can walk around shirtless at some degenerate festival and have a couple mires here and there. I had that goal for 2 and a half months, cutting low carb at 1800 cals per day.

I honestly think it's too late for me to go into a cut again. I don't want to yoyo on bulking and cutting, especially in one cycle. I don't have enough LBM to look good at low bodyfat anyhow.

So maybe I can just eat heavy, lift heavy, sleep heavy, and feel heavy for the rest of the 12 weeks. Then do a recomp with some tren thrown in there...

I dunno man. I feel terrible and gross. I appreciate the advice though man, I definitely will take it slower next time.

How do you guys do myo reps?

I tried to do them recently with laterals. I had been told that you should do a primary set, rest for five breaths, then do as many sets as possible with a quarter of the reps and the same rest time.

I did ten sets and stopped, because it wasn't working.

>>41765893
What did your reps look like? You were going to failure each set, right?

>>41765909

The first set was eighteen reps. Maybe too much?

After that, it was a quarter of the reps in each set, so I went with four (can't do a half rep lel).

Maybe I just needed to use more weight.

>You were going to failure each set, right?

No, that's the point of myo reps. You go to failure on the activation set, then you do sets until failure rather than failure on every set. But it's supposed to happen more quickly than ten sets.

>>41765944
No, you go to failure on the subsets as well.

So it'll be like 22-8-6-6-5-2

>>41765944
>>41765954
>just lift until you die
sign me up

>>41765829
thanks for sharing, I like this mentality. it's more healthy than my usual howcouldyoudothisyoupig approach

>>41765954

https://massivejoes.com/workouts/training-methods/myo-reps

I'll try that way instead. I wanted to the auto-regulated sets described in the link, but maybe I'm too retarded for that.

>>41765954
>>41765977

But it looks like you're supposed to do it with like... half the reps instead of a quarter. Oops. Dunno where I heard a quarter.

>>41765983
Nah just go to failure on every set. It's lateral raises going to failure on them isn't hard.

Try doing that shit with kroc rows. You'll blow the fuck up.

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anyone familiar with LH and FSH and their relationship to Leydig/Sertoli cells?

my bloods showed in range values of LH and FSH. I anecdotally believe my Estrogen is high, but I haven't got those results yet.

is it possible (from the sterons wiki) that FSH-dependent aromatization occuring in the Sertoli cells is dampening my response to LH?

in other words, why am I low test (450 ng/dL) if my pituitary looks fine and I'm not Type 1 hypogonadic?

my initial assumption is if I take an AI and avoid xenoestrogens I could get a natural test boost before attempting a cycle

is anavar worth it for someone who doesnt want to compete or be an ig model

>>41766009
I did 4 weeks all I noticed is vascularity and pumps when in the gyms no gains

>>41764533
your on 300ng and at 1200 test?
is this through clinic or

>>41765990

Seems legit. How do you determine the stopping point? Just when you can't do it anymore? Or is there a rep limit?

>>41766072
>Just when you can't do it anymore
You got it.

Mostly for simple exercises, lat raises, pull-ups/downs, curls, etc.

>>41766009
It's alright, I get slightly better pumps and vascularity from it so that's nice. Completely anecdotally it also functions as a bit of an appetite suppressant which is also nice, and I seem to lose a bit less LBM when I cut hard on it.

>>41766108

>Mostly for simple exercises

Lordy lordy, are there people who try this with compound lifts? Sounds like a good way to snap something.

Snorted a few lines of coke 9 days ago at a stag party, now I'm getting a pre-employment test tomorrow. Any chance I'll piss hot?

Also, test isnt gonna fuck with the tests. Is it?

>>41766116
I'm sure they're out there

>deadlift PR
>form went to shit because weight was so heavy
>complete the rep but now my lower back hurts (dots DOMS)

tfw snapped my shit up

>>41766121
Nah man. I used to get tested for my fraternity by a lab. Would snort coke on Friday and pass by Monday. As long as you are active its out in like 2-3 days.

>eating postworkout meal
>Whey shake and oatmeal with melted chocolate chips and marshmallows

Bulk life.

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>>41766176
>not eating a 40 piece mcnugget
>bulking

LMAO

>>41766134
Where's the pain? Is it directly on your spine or on your erectors?
Also how much direct ab work do you do?

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>>41766194
Pain is in my tailbone area

>how much direct ab work do you do

Almost none. Every other week I'll do some leg raises.

>>41766217
I'd avoid compounds/loading my spine for like a week and look into McGill's lower back exercises
After you've recovered do more direct ab work. Like do some form of leg raise/dragon flag/plank/ab wheel/whatever oblique bullshit you want at the end of at least every other workout if not every workout. Your abs play an important role in stabilizing your spine. If you increase your ab strength you can massively decrease your chance of injury.

>>41766116
I could see close grip bench, strict ohp, etc being a decent choice for myoreps (just choose a great spotter for bench)

Maybe even squats if you choose technical failure over total muscular failure.

>>41765779
what you need bruv is maybe some caffeine or something. your basically depressed need to find a way to fix it

I've been looking around and can't find an answer to this.
I've been taking an estrogen blocker for a while (Letrozole) with nothing else. Do I need to do anything particular to get off of it without negative side effects? Or can I just stop taking it and it'll be all good?

>>41766544
Why are you taking an estrogen blocker for shits and giggles

I just can't stop cheating on my gf with hot 18 year olds.

Should I come of gear because I can't handle the sex drive I feel like I'm horny 24/7.

>>41766559
Eh... Long story but it's significantly improved my body and made me feel better and healthier than ever. But can you answer my question, if you know an answer?

>>41766217
>>41766258
on the contrary, tight hip flexors (usually from sitting and doing improper ab work) can also lead to shitty posture and inevitable lower back injuries

make sure you're stretching properly too anon, gl

>>41764829
Anyone?

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2.5 weeks in to a 4 week 50mg ed dbol kickstart with test. Got a nose bleed today and considering dropping the dbol. Thoughts prease my people

300mg test e and 400mg equipoise

Would you use an anti aro

>>41766815
dbol = high bp for me, even just 30mg gave me head aches quickly. 20mg still estro sides all over the place needing asin small dose ED.

Adrol.. Ive had no sides so far at 50mg.. normal BP as well, no gyno symptoms either. Feel good on it, supposed to be good for endurance and cardio too if youre into that.

Id change dbol out for adrol.

>>41766871
yes

>>41766881
awesome thanks for the advice, had to up my asin already for it too so thinking the test e should be kicking in soon anyway. At this point may drop the dbol and just nail my asin with bloods for the test alone

>>41766881
I was gonna do sdrol but now I want adrol

>>41767000
Ive used sdrol, I havent measured my blood pressure on sdrol before, but I didnt get head aches on it, so Im guessing not as high as dbol.

I have a portable blood pressure checker now and take my bp daily.

Checked right now, Im 121/75, off gear Im about 110/60. Dbol when I first started within a week or two I was already over 140/85, a few more weeks in including the asin I was as high as 155/90 at some points.

Im on about 500-600mg Test E, 50mg Adrol (split into two doses), and 5-10mg LGD ED.

The first time I took adrol was 50mg pre workout, and I only had a light work out and I went hypo shortly after, its been fine since then however.

I have sdrol, I plan on stopping adrol for a few weeks cutting, running some tudca to make sure quick recovery, jumping back on adrol for some bulking, then dropping again and a few weeks off tudca, then sdrol and recomping or slightly over maintenance. Ill check my bp daily during that time and see if at any point its gone up.

>>41767113
>off gear Im about 110/60
howfat

>>41764256
>Gonna go on a huge blast to channel my rage.

Glad im not the only one who does this

>>41767167
I'm higher than him and I'm not fat at all

How do I get bloodwork?

Do I go to a lab and they give me the results online?

>>41767176
howunhealthy

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>>41767183
im bulking on chicken nuggets

>>41767167
15% since bulking. RHR 55 bpm off gear.

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>>41767241
tfw skinnyfat
tfw starting my bulk around 20%

>>41767266

but y tho

>>41767284
I have no muscle so if I cut I'll just be holocaust mode

>>41767266
You could probably just maintenance for a while or small cut while gaining if you're on gear.

Low muscle high fat is ideal candidate for making gains while losing fat on gear.

>>41767296
>>41767266
That being said, if you increase muscle mass without increasing body fat much that's still a decrease in body fat % even if you didn't lose any fat

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>>41767284
>ever being beliw 30%

New blood work is in

My hemocrat levels still high

Everything else has lowered except ldl/trigcyl

Free test is nearly 900

>>41767308

I like the way you think, anon.

>>41767312

These videos are kind of unnerving to me.

>>41764494
>she sees how much she gets to you.

She's well aware she could make me run circles and do flips if she asked me to. The thing that I love her for is that she doesn't.

>>41764538
I'd rather honestly kill her and myself.

any of you faggots ever used minoxidil on your face for beard growth? I've got weak sideburns and a neckbeard, and a mexistache but I want a full beard

>>41764802
>>41764791
i've felt tren e sides in the first few days

Thinking about starting HGH. Anyone have experience?

>>41764493
Context okay

>Meet gf on facebook when she was in highschool
>Date for 4-5 months and settle on relationship
>in relatioship for 4 years
>I became a lazy, self-centred asshole
>she breaks up with me
>I realise what a lazy, self-centred asshole I've become
>Attempting to complete reverse my life around because I love her more than life itself
>We spent 2 months in silence
>I crack first

Now it's just a matter of getting her back. We talk daily.

>Do you even roid
250mg Test-E
100mg NPP
500mg Tren

>>41767377
Word, in my past relationships I have fallen into that trap as well. Its easy to get complacent when you are comfortable. Hope all goes well man.

>>41767377
>not even running 100mg tren ED

And you expect to get your gf back.... lmao...

>>41767377
Talking everyday will eat at you slowly bro that's what I was doing with ex. How would you guys feel if you're with a new girl and she hangs out with ex and their friend group?

>>41759882
Ye shit is complete cash. I am on my 2nd week and already notice better pumps. Muscle feels like it's going to break skin open.

>>41767371
Recently started Pharma HGH 1IU ED
>not sure if placebo, but sleeps are better so far,

Gonna start ramping up 1 IU a week until i hit 6IU a day.
Wanted to run a few weeks at 1 just because wanted to see if pharma was that much better.

>>41760389
90% of teen transformations on youtube are roided. A lot of people start between 18-20 years old and have no problems down the road as long as they do all proper PCT.

>>41760614
How long did it take you to "fully recover" and how did your body react to PCT.

>>41759848
Are women really taking roids for bodies like this

Caber arrived.

Opened up by customs but got through

>>41768028
now you're going up to 1g a week of tren right

>>41768047
>this halts the crusades

>>41761100
late to party but i do heavy 3x8 compounds
light iso's 4x12-15

works for me

>>41761562
i have crohns and could get it no prob

its not anabolic though so wtf?

>>41768047
Not until my shoulders are less fucked. I have almost no pain and full ROM but it still pops and clicks when I move it in certain ways.

>>41768100
lu raises
W raises, or any external rotation work whatsoever
learn how to do lateral raises without impinging your supraspinatus
chris duffin's shoulderok aka metal dildo of shoulder relief

none of this shit will really compensate for a weak back and/or poor form tho but good luck lil guy

>>41768100
Maybe you have some tendon calcifications, you should ask for an ultrasound of the supraspinatus and biceps tendon.

Anybody else experience pretty intense night sweats on just a 500mg cycle? Am I just prone to it or is my gear overdosed? Taking AI drinking 2 gallons a day and low sodium.

I'm on week 6 and pretty much dampen anything I'm near. Feel asleep with my glasses on the other night and woke up to them completely foggy.

Anybody else experience pretty intense night sweats on just a 500mg cycle? Am I just prone to it or is my gear overdosed? Taking AI drinking 2 gallons a day and low sodium.

I'm on week 6 and pretty much dampen anything I'm near. Feel asleep with my glasses on the other night and woke up to them completely foggy.

>>41768270
I assume you just mean Test, and no doesn't happen to me.

I dont AI either.

>>41768270
>>41768274
sorry for the double post i am on mobile.

>>41768297
yes just basic test-e. ok guess im just prone. thanks anon.

Noob question. What's the ideal first ever cycle? Thanks.

>>41768342
teste

>>41768359
How much? How long?

>>41768373
For max gains?
1g x 4eva

>>41768317
might be nothing so don't panic, but i haven't heard about it happening, other than with infection comes fever

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>>41768379
>you'll never be an Eva
>tfw

>>41768373
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/653797-my-first-cycle-planning-executing-successful-cycle.html

>>41759043
Although im not interested in the /fraud/ulent path, I'm curious as to why no source talk is allowed?

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my summer heat brings all the gyno pancake nipples to the yard

>>41768385
When Asuka lost her eye.
Cry everytime

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>>41768411
man that girl had a hard life and she still chose to endure humanity vs eternal bliss what a trooper

>wiki in OP says to cycle and PCT
>everyone ITT does blast and cruise
So what is it?!

>>41768557
Whichever you prefer

>>41768557
blast and cruise is for the nerds

if you're just starting dont do it

You guys get more soms during bulks or cuts? For me its during bulks.

>>41764634
Draw with 21g + syringe and backload the slinpin.

If you draw with the slinpin it will take for ages and the needle will get dull.

>>41768727
well you're lifting heavier so DUH

Did moosey pct or go to a cruise. He shrunk like a mofo. I know he was sick tho but still.

>>41760053
You're not the boss of me!!!

>>41760351
Lf = low-fat? And you're low carb?

Try keto for a bit instead

>>41760630
Then switch it up you nigger

Powder protein chicken brocci and rice is a meme

You can get all the protein you need from your diet then you don't need the supplement

Google some new reccies you fool

>>41762656
Some people just aren't made for dbol
>autocorrect keeps turning dbol into evil
It's a fucking sign m8

>>41762726
As far as I'm knowledged that's not a normal var reaction and you can have mild allergic reactions (could easily be from an additive/suspension in any of your roids)

Sounds like an allergic reaction to me anyway

>>41763354
Don't bother to re-inject even when you think something is wasted

>>41763608
If you can handle the sides

>>41765414
Deal breaker fetish 100%

>>41766009
For the price no unless you're female

Just do test you faggot

>>41766648
In what way would it benefit you not to stay on gear, bang hot 18 yo girls and just break up with your gf unless she has some kind of monetary use?

>>41767181
You can take your own blood and mail it to online labs or talk to a Dr irl and see if they'll watch bloods for you. Depending where you live even if roids are illegal Drs will watch for your safety.... check first

>>41767343
Apparently latisse eyelash growth shit works great for receding hair, sparse hair etc but they only manu it in baby bottles at high prices

>>41767947
B O D Y D Y S P H O R I A

>>41768557
Depends on your personal goals and long term financial capabilities

Start by cycling to get a feel

>>41768806
fuck off

>>41768813
Pay me to do you filthy spic licker :^)

>>41768815
embarrassing

>>41768806
:,( is it really you

First time drinking in 2 years. I'm all alone.

What am I?

>>41768876
At least you have some semblance of self awareness

>>41768879
I'll be whatever really you, you want me to be, anon

>>41768889
A non-social drinker

>>41768938
>>41768938
>>41768938
>>41768938
>>41768938


Since we're autosage and everyone else is sleeping babby

>>41768938
>>41768938
>>41768938
>>41768938
>>41768938

>>41768815
Do you spics

Asking for a friend.

>>41766871
Probably not.
Just have it on hand if you experience sensiv nips etc.

>>41767321
Thats not free test but total.

>>41768270
Buddy of mine had that aswell the first few months he started with gear. Dont worry about it.