/fraud/

First for the painful fucking superdrol pumps

Who else here pins IM with tiny needles? I use a 30G 1" for every site and I'd never use anything else. Unless you're injecting something suspended in castor oil, I don't see why you would use a larger gauge and sacrifice lesser scar tissue formation for a few seconds of faster injection time. Just sayin', bros.

How does primobolan compare to tren?

I know its way more expensive and harder to find.

>>41749079
i agree with you. Im using 27g 1.5" tho, thats still really small

>>41749079
Im all about the slinpin life, personally i use 29g. Quad & delt main sites. Never done glutes.

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>both shoulders wrecked
>spent over 2 hours cleaning my brothers fucking disgusting apartment
>who the fuck leaves used q-tips just laying around?
>shoulders hurt even more

>saw exgf
>wanted to touch her and hug her so badly
>physically painful holding myself back

>exgf finds out about the money I sent her
>gets upset at me for trying to buy her

>didn't eat enough because of such a busy day

>tren overheating me and can't sleep

Going to have a good cry.

/blog

>>41749079
I got 30g needles and I can't even get mct gear to go through them, heated and everything. Not sure if the brand is shit or something, I think they're nipro

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Questions:

1. Volume of training in PCT. Same as in cycle or lower?
2. Food intake in PCT. Same as in cycle or TDEE or higher than cycle?
3. German Volume Training, PushPullLegs, Layne Norton's PHAT or brosplit?
4. Will Arimidex keep me "dry" during a cycle?

>>41749119

Hmmm, that's odd. Mine are BD (PrecisionGlide). MCT and GSO pass through them just fine. I use a 1cc syringe, though. That could be it... Smaller barrel diameter generates more pressure.

>>41749095

My man!

>>41749105

Hell yeah! I still like the conventional needle/syringe combo, though. Not into backloading. Plus, I like the longer needle length for IM. VGs, delts, and quads here. Glutes are too damn hard to reach lol

>>41749172
You might be onto something. I got 5ml syringes because I didn't really think about it too hard. I'll use one with my 3ml barrels next time and see if it's better.

>>41749115
lets see

>2 hours cleaning up my brothers apartment

cuck behaviour. Why did you do that. Why did you not tell him to do it himself?


>while your shoulders hurt
so you endure physical pain to clean up someone elses apartment
cuck behaviour

>wanted to hug her so bad
nothing wrong with that, we all fall in love sometimes

>give her money to win her back
what did you think would happen? "oi m8 you gave me 200 bux i love you again"
cuck behaviour

>cant sleep cuz tren
smoke sum pot

>>41749216
>Why did you do that
Because I don't enjoy living in squalor.

>Why did you not tell him to do it himself?
Because he's now thousands of kilometres away.

>so you endure physical pain to clean up someone elses apartment
I have to live here for 8 days.

>what did you think would happen?
Nothing. I didn't want anything to happen. I wanted to make sure she was taking care of herself.

>smoke sum pot
Recreational drugs are for degenerates.

>>41749216
Yo it's his brother, helping out immediate family like that is a good thing. Random acquaintance? Nah, unless there's some fiscal recompense. But I'd always help my bro out if I had time.

>>41749213

Oh yeah, dude. I'd be willing to bet that's your problem -- barrel diameter makes a big difference!

Both my buttcheeks are sore with pip. Have to sleep on my tummy.
Should I try to do squats, lunges and leg day in general? Will it help the big painful lumps of pip in my ass go away or will it make them worse?

>>41749267

Sometimes the best thing to do for PIP is to just work the affected muscles. It can actually help them feel a lil better.

>>41749251
Yep a smaller barrel is better.

>>41749267
>>41749292
bloodflow helps reduce pip.

i remember the very first time I had pip i just sat and played vidya for 2 hours and the pip was excruciating.

>>41749336
>>41749292
thanks, glad to hear this. I have been trying to not work them because was afraid it'd make things worse.

>>41749417

Well, sometimes you just can't. I got some PIP when I started pinning this Tren/Test blend for the first time that was so crippling I could barely walk when I pinned quads. Luckily I timed my pins so that I didn't pin them right before leg days. There was no way I could have made it through a workout in that state, and I have a fairly high pain tolerance.

Is Cardio important on gear? The pastebin says it is but it doesn't really say why, and I hear some people say they never do cardio. Is incorporating some cardio going to help me grow more somehow?

>>41749492
from what i know, it helps keep cholesterol in check.

>>41749492
cholesterol, prevents heart issues,

besides some compounds make your endurance literal shit.

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is this guy on gear?
says he made this progress over 4 years and is natural

>>41749537
thats possible natty. 4 years is a long time

>>41749465
I pinned my ass on sunday, and that cheek is still sore. I pinned it right after doing my squats and lunges though, but the soreness caused me to miss a leg day. First pin tho, so I hope it gets better now.

>>41749537
If he is on gear. Really neglected those deltoids.

>>41749563
First pins are painfull. Be sure to use small needless and inject slow.

>>41749563

Yeah, the first few times are going to suck, especially if you're running short esters or high concentration gear. That's just the nature of the beast, my man. You'll be surprised how your body adapts to it over time, though.

>>41749537
He is natty

Ok, have been doing research and I think the best thing for my goals right now is a mast deca cycle.
>6'2"
>195. Approx 15% bf
>1.25/2.5/3/don't dl

Questions: Can I eat at maintenance and still see progress? Is it worth it if I can't work out more than three times a week? Is test necessary with steron cycles?

>>41749575
>>41749662
How did you both arrive at these conclusions?

>>41749837
Obvious roid usage:
Way too short timeframe
insane traps and delts

this was neither

>>41749889
Can't you take roids and neglect those two parts to look natty?

>>41749920
I guess that's true. But why take roids if the goal is not to leave humanity behind

how bad is it to have a couple beers while on 50mg dbol ed + test?

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Anyone do Strength/Hypertrophy focused training kinda like Brick but not focused on powerlifting?

I just wrote up a basic template for "off-season" work. Rep and set ranges will be cycled, and things like "DB Bench" could be incline or whatever variety feels good.

Wanted to see if there's any obvious holes in exercise selection.

AxBxCDx
ABxCDxx
ABxCxDx
Etc

A
Deadlift
DB Bench
Abs
Pullups/pulldown

B
Front Squat
OHP
Hack Squat
DB Rows

C
Bent-over Rows
Bench
BTN Presses
Triceps/Biceps

D
Squat
DB Press
Jefferson Deadlift
Muscle Snatches
Lateral raises

This is just the skeleton obviously. Would like another set of eyes on it to see if there's some glaringly obvious holes or problems with it. Thanks, sorry for mild rambling.

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What kind of shit do you guys bring your girl when she's sick?

Soup, juice or other drinks, medicine, tea, tissues, blankets, obviously love. Anything else

>>41750078
I text them that we can no longer be together because I will not accept a long term romantic partner that is vulnerable to generic illness.

Can someone redpill me on HGH? Does it take away your natty card? Is it safe? Do you cycle it?

>>41749095
Same as me m8. I prefer to put the needle in really slow and push the oil through slowly anyway.

>>41750101
Sure.
Yes.
Not entirely.
You can.

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>>41750097
Solid plan, I guess I should've learned from the American Indians how this could end.

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>>41749664
Nah fuck taking test, my advice to people like you is start on 900mg of dihydroboldenone per week only. Try and get high concentration if you can because injecting too much vol as a noob can be painful.

Which is better in the long run

>drink 2 liters of diet soda a day plus some water
>drink 1 liter of very mild decaff coffe a day plus water

I really neglect my liquids if i just take in water for some reason.

the coffee is a mild diuretic right? so itll make me more lean as a result of reduced water retention?

>>41750269
Probably option two, sweeteners linked to all kinds of bad shit up to and including insulin resistance, dementia, etc. Not fun, might as well just eat sugar anyway.

Decaffeinated coffee will probably not act as much as a diuretic. Never noticed anything from coffee for my physique anyway.

Regardless, find a gallon jug, fill with water, drink it. Do this once a day. Wow so accomplish.

Fucking faggot can't imagine how shit the rest of your diet is if you can't muscle up the willpower required to '''drink water'''. Life must be very difficult for you.

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>>41750269
Drink teas then. Quit fucking drinking 2l of soda every goddamn day. Drinking a liter of coffee even decaf is going to stain your teeth, the diuretic properties are likely due to the caffeine.

Water, water, water. I don't understand why it's so hard. I easily do 2gallons most days without even noticing, did 2l this morning with breakfast along with green tea and some coffee.

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I was just given a TRT script. 140mg/week plus HCG and AI. Am I fraud now

>>41750367
Yes.

Not a bad script either. Once they stop eyeing your bloods closely, you can throw in some oral or short ester cycles on top of that.

How good is halotestin?

clen during pct y/n?

some people say yes some people say hell no. starting pct on tuesday with clomid/tamox and plan to to light fullbody once a week until hormones are normal again

>>41749043
why enanthate makes me much more sore than propionate? holy shit my glutes is hurt for 5 days now

>>41750861
longer esters hurt.

>>41750861
Assuming that you didn't homebrew, the batch that you're jamming into your ass presently most likely has a fuck load of benzyl alcohol and benzyl benzoate in lieu of actually filtering the oil (because that takes time and reduces overall volume by a bit, thus reducing profit margins further).

Whats a good recommendation for a test tren cycle? I want to do Tren E, but is A really that much better?

I've ran test 500 twice and ran epistane and dbol.

>>41751033
Run ace until you understand your personal sides to tren.

Start at 350mg/week tren and up from there at week 4 if you're still good on sides. Stay at trt test first few tren blasts. Then you can start playing around more

>>41751121
fuak, I've only injected quads. Guessing I'll have to man up and learn some new spots to inject.

>>41751145
I like delts, chest and quads for lower oilvolume (.5-1ml) and vg/glutes for 1.5ml+.

>>41749043
I'm self prescribing TRT and can only get a regular estrogen test (not sensitive)

How fucked am I?

currently coming up wtih my second cycle. first cycle was 500mg test e for 6 months (i know) and had very good results

gonna go with 750 mg test e (pharm grade private prescription) 350mg tren ace and 200 mg mast ew including mk 677,cardarine and clen

opinions?

181 cm 85kg 12% bf 120 kg bench for reps (off cycle)

>off accutane for a week
>wake up with 2 giant pimples
god dammit

>>41751213
why are you using so many fucking compounds
where is your AI
Why are you willing to risk clen sides but are unwilling to use DNP for a bit?

>>41751246
i can run clen 140mg a day with no problems at all except for slight jitters and having a hard time getting to sleep

ai is autoincluded at 1 tab anastrozol ed.

dunno about dnp

>>41751213
Lower test, up tren.

No need for clen here.

Otherwise go for it

how should someone do dnp after a cycle?

I suggested that after my 3 months on cycle, I use DNP while going through PCT, then an anon told me how dumb it would be to crash my caloric intake while PCTing and I'd probably fuck myself up. Should I just stay on a 4th month and do a 2-3 week harsh DNP cut before going off?

>>41751478
You're dumb and will not make it

Any advice on how many and where to get syringe and needles for simple 15wk test e cycle? I'm in canuckland ON. What's best advisable needle gauge for babbys first cycle?

>>41751527
READ THE WIKI

>>41751501
Im inclined to agree

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I have a noob question that isn't answered by the wiki

My test levels are lower than average, but not low enough to warrant prescription TRT, so I figured I'd just self medicate on 125mg test/week. But how do AIs work on what is essentially an indefinite cruise? I'm not going to be overloading my body with test, just raising it to more masculine levels, so is there still a risk of developing gyno or am I gucci to just pin every week and go about my normal life?

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>>41750907
.....what? It's the opposite lil nigga.

>>41750861
Probably just a coincidence unless you got shitty gear.

>>41751617
On TRT doses you ideally wouldn't need to touch an AI. It's just supposed to replace whatever you body would optimally make. Get bloods and change the dose if needed so you peak right around 1-1200ng/dl and watch your e2 while doing so.

>>41749043

I'm 19 and I'm considering my first cycle soon. I'm thinking of Dianabol because it's convenient, plus Nolvadex during usage and PCT, with maybe Tribulus following the cycle. I've read that it's not effective, however, and I'd need an exogenous source of testosterone as well.

Is this true? If so, will Durateston (or testosterone propionate) cut it? Anything I'm missing on my cycle?

>>41751617
>>41751674
What is the worst case scenario if I hop on TRT and don't use an AI? If I develop gyno or start getting signs of it can it be reversed by the AI if I introduce it later on?

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>>41751737
Maybe. But I wouldn't fuck around with gyno just because you're lazy.

How much do you guys fap while roiding? I'm 19 yo @ 400mg test E and ive alredy masturbated 5 times today. 2 of them while seeing porn, the others were for my gf pics.

>>41751725
Gringos não sabem o que é Dura, anao. La eles chamam de sust. Also, diana e uma boa pra primeiro ciclo, e algo bem "safe" e vai dar uns ganhoszinhos relevantes.

>>41751848
It depends really. I could easily masturbare up to 35 times a week on test, maybe half that natty

My tinder date hasn't texted me back and we're supposed to get coffee in a few hours

On one hand it actually makes me less nerveous, but on the other hand I am angry at the possibility I could be disappointed later today

>>41751863

Valeu pela dica anão, ainda preciso usar uma forma exógena de testo junto com o Diana ou não? Se sim, sabe se é fácil dar migué em farmácia pra aplicar sem receita?

>>41751863
Not him but have you tried landerlan tren?
PD:Maradona>Pele

>>41752017
Se vc usasse com certeza teria mais ganhos, mas tb teria que extender o ciclo por mt mais tempo, o que daria mais gastos e mais dificuldade pra se recuperar depois. Manda umas 40mg de diana por dia por umas 4 semanas que já dá uns 5-7kg. Um amigo meu fez e cresceu substancialmente.

>>41752030
No, legit Landerlan is pretty good indeed, but its hard to find. Almost all Landerlan in brazil is fake shit. I only use UG.

>>41752054
Have you tried asking for the "authorised" seller in their site? Thats how i get mine and never had a problem checking if its legit with their app
They are going to start selling mast, TrenE and EQ, feels good

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Low test faggot here. I was thinking about doing a simple cycle but now im thinking about some sort of cruise. Is it even worth it to pin low doses? Im guessing you still have to do bloodwork and take ai as long as your test is above the natural limit.

>>41752036

E sobre a hepatotoxicidade? Precisa de milk thistle/alguma coisa p proteger ou é só maneirar no alcool?

>>41752204
Se vc bebe nem deveria pensar em ciclar, honestamente. Mas, sim, não precisa de protetor.

>>41752131
I will try when i buy gear next time. Thanks brah!!

>>41752202
cruising forever >>>> doing heavy cicles 1-2 times a year. Go for it fagget

>>41752274
but what cruising dosages we are talking about? you still have to take ai, right?

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Are there any enhanced supplements that improve cardio performance for runs and shit?

>>41752315
cardarine

>>41752314
200mg test for example. It depends. If you pin at least every other day and is at a low bf you probably wont need ai.

What's a conservative amount of tren ace to blast? Was thinking 300-400

What would happen if I would just pin glutes and vg the entire time?

>>41752349
that depends heavily on whether your gear is accurately dosed and how well you respond.

i need ai even on 150mg.

>>41752357
1g ED ir dont bother

>>41752357
It would probably suck with two pin spots. ED is kinda lame sometimes as it is.

>>41752368
Shall I pin my scrotum as well

>>41752357
30mg/day, tren is some strong stuff.

>>41752391
Only if you want to leave humanity behind

>>41752349
>>41752366
trying to manage your estrogen during one cycle doesn't sound that bad but it seems that would be pretty annoying in the long run

>>41752414
I know ace is stronger than e so you'd need less for the effect.

45 ace ed with 150 test e ew sound decent?

Gonna get on a BnC boys. This will be my third injectable cycle. What should I run for my blast? I've used Test, Dbol, and epi.

I want to either go tren or deca (EQ will be soon). How is deca?

I decided to finally to double my dosage of Tren to 250mg e3d now that I am happy that my body reacts well to it. Only got very minor trensomnia that already went away, but I still sweat a lot more.

Running fairly low Test with it, 75mg Test E e3d.

Gonna be bulking on this and see how it goes.

>>41752434
not at all.

it took me 1 bloodwork to get my proper dosage and since then it has been smoothsailing.

>>41752463
Why even ask for a conservative dose if you're going to go full-bore anyway?

>>41752515
I was going with the 300-400 range but you brought it down to the 200-300 range.

I want low end blast range rather than conservative. But in the end I've already made up mind.

>>41752499
what are your dosages and how often you pop ai?

250mg of test per week during BnC sounds like too much for a natty? I've heard that people were doing a cycle with this amount so im not sure. I've got low test anyway so even after a cycle and pct i will go back to shit levels.

ate a jar peanutbutter as a cheatmeal today 2300kcal right there, always wondered how people cant eat much

>>41752615
250mg test is definitely too much.

on some UGL gear that can easily put you at the 2000+ mark just check some bloodwork at leddit.

im doing 150mg weekyl test cyp with well 0.10-0.2mg adex. i try to split the pill in 5 doses but its hard af.

>>41752469

My nips got noticeably puffy on them even with an AI at around the 12+ week mark. I loved how I looked otherwise but that kind of scared me a bit.

>>41752649
should i expect noticible gains on that low dose or it won't be much difference?

i would like to finally put on some quality mass without getting fat

>>41749920
>Can't you take roids and neglect those two parts to look natty?

Thats what I did lol

>>41752649
>im doing 150mg weekyl test cyp

What's that like?

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>>41753095
>Not maximizing upper back and shoulder training to leave humanity behind
Will never make it

Wondering about my my e2... May be low test though. No/low libido. Hard erections. Tired all the time. Feminine fat distribution. Anxiety. Anyone got any ideas? Thinking about trt dose test.

>>41749043
could test stop suicide

>>41753260
if you use enough probably

500mg tren for sure though

>>41753292
Yeah I don't think so.

>>41753327
Its working for you

>>41749079
dude if you have a steady hand and rotate injection sites, theres like 0 chance of any lasting scar tissue

>>41750201
add in 1mg of methyl tren per day to this

>>41753260
>>41753292
>>41753327

Being on gear can certainly stop suicidal thoughts.

I used to be a wreck wanting to kill myself at least a few times a week. 2 failed attemps over a couple of years.

These days, even on cruise (200mg), most of the thoughts have suddenly dissapeared.
Happens like once every 6 months now, which I can handle.

Steroids saved my life, even if they'll end up killing me.

>>41753390
>Steroids saved my life, even if they'll end up killing me.

that's how I'm thinking of it, like a last resort

>>41753428
If I'm going to fuck myself up I might as well go all out.

That being said, while PCT is easy I slip right back into a depression.
It might all be bullshit since several tests revealed jack shit to be wrong with me but hey it's a solution.

>>41753377
This. Slow, steady and rotate.
Not hard.

>>41749216
The king cuck reveals himself

what kinda mg/week would i get from being prescribed trt? what would my blood levels be at?
how will I feel when I'm actually on test, im currently only at 300

How does one convert USD to Bitcoins nowadays?

>>41753631
Coinbase or faster-pricier localbitcoins

How does nolvadex/clomid work as PCT? I dont understand how it returns your hormone levels back to normal

>>41753782
Tamoxifen (Nolva / Nolvadex) - SERM, binds with estrogen receptors, blocking some estrogen actions while at the same time allowing others. Will hinder the estrogen receptors from receiving the estrogen, hence you'll still have estrogen floating around in your body when you use a SERM.

Clomifine (Clomid) - a SERM medication used to treatinfertilityin women whodo not ovulate. It works by causing the release ofgonadotrophinby thehypothalamus. Fairly weak AI properties. Doesn't mimic LH but instead stimulates the hypophysis to release more gonadotropins. Stimulates faster and higher release of follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) and luteinizing hormone (LH), thus will spike up the total testosterone levels allowing the user to artificially maintain high testosterone.

What the actual fuck.

I came off a hardcore cut and went straight into a heavy bulk. I started at 178lbs

I weighed myself today and I was 202lbs.

Holy fucking shit what the fuck is this. My entire body is sore, every single muscle feels like it's pumped and expanding, and my lower back is fucking hurting like a bitch.

I definitely regained a bit of fat though...

Jesus fucking christ though lads what do I do? Keep heavy bulking and try to adjust my body to the new weight?

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>>41753869
Oh yeah, forgot to mention the weight change happened in the course of 6 days

>>41753869
congrats, you gained 20 pounds of water

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Bros why did she go thru all this effort and still hasn't texted me back? Did she jump ship? It's been 16 hours

>>41753888
Yeah I'm pretty sure it's mostly water. I did add 15lbs to my bench. I couldn't squat tho because my shoulders were too inflexible and my lower back was in too much pain.

Does the water weight eventually flush out sometime during this cycle? Currently week 5 into Test E. Also got 4 more days left of this Var 100mg ED, and I did add sdrol 25mg a week ago and plan on running that for 3 more weeks.

>>41753906

maybe your name is Keith or something and she decided you were a little bitch

>>41753906
>giving a immature bitch which ends ever sentence with lol a choice
your game is weak lol isnt it lol? pls respond lol

>>41753917
>100mg Var and 25mg Sdrol

wew lad

>>41753813
So you need both tamoxifen and clomid at the same time?

>>41754085
Yep preferably, most basic PCTs are with novla and clomid in various amounts depending on cycle lengths. Read PCT part of the wiki for more

Tried to pin glutes with my half inch needle but I'm too fat and I think it ended up subq because it stings. Guess I'm sticking to quads delts and chest.

>>41753906
dude she said "that's what I thought" to not let you down. you are not who she thought you were and now she's ghosting to get rid of you.

>>41754195
then whyd she give me her fuckin number tho and mention that I didnt text her at first... because she would have been hoping the number was mine then

>>41754205
>and mention that I didnt text her at first
because she thought you were someone else

>>41754216
nah because she gave me her number and I didnt text her until a day and a half later

dont get me wrong, I can accept the fact that she might be completely ignoring me right now, but it just doesnt make a lot of sense. I know what thats like. Maybe she is, but then shed be especially cruel ig.

Whatever. I dont know what will happen but Ill take it.

>>41753622
anyone got any ideas bout this stuff?

>>41749115
>upset about getting money
>will probably keep it and not return it anyways

post more anime pls

>>41752202
>Low test faggot here
why do you say this? how do you know?

>>41753369
I still think of killing myself. I'm just not retarded enough to do it because I tried it once already

>>41754724
>I'm just not retarded enough to do it
>because I tried it once already
right

well fentanyl is a pretty painless way to go

>>41754724
Thats tren bb

Question for any Ausfags in the audience.

What are the chances of any steroids/testosterone/whatever else being seized by the feds (assuming I buy from local sellers)? And if so, what sort of punishment am I looking at?

I work in the healthcare sector, and while I'm aware of any health risks, but I'm not prepared to piss away my education and my career over any legal risks, just so I can look good.

I have never taken gear before. I'm interested in remaining natural for the time being, however I've read from multiple sources that taking a single cycle of roids can permanently (or for a long time, 4-5 years) increase the number of myonuclei in your muscle cells, which means you'd still get an advantage even years after being done with your cycle.

I know this might seem complicated, but what drugs exactly can promote this change? Surely not all available steroids can promote this?

I have fucking LVH. Going to stop everything except TRT and even probably lower my dose of that as well.

My doc says I'm at increased risk of stroke because my hematocrit is high and LVH. I've been losing weight, lifting less, and trying to go more for like a soccer player physique than mass monster.

It's just so much fun being the strongest guy in the gym and being able to bench the 100s.

I just hope that it's reversible with at least a decent TRT dose (like 160 or so) and no nandrolone. I do have some var I'd like to run at times still.

But no more NPP or deca for me, even though it's an amazing drug.

>>41754887

Deca accelerates LVH, right? Is there a way to avoid it, or is it just like "some people get it, shit happens"?

>>41754887
what is your steroid history? years on? amounts done? steroids done? did you do cardio? height bodyweight?
>being able to bench the 100s
the 100lb dumbbells, people do natty?
>>41754923
can't all steroids increase risk for LVH tho?

>>41754923
You can take Losartan and there are other drugs that not only lower BP but do something having to do with receptors in heart muscle but overall be best answer is stay away from it. Search for it on reddit steroids. it's an amazing read.

>>41755003
I go to tiny little suburban gyms when they are not busy so like when youngins are there they mire pretty hard. I don't do it for every workout I only do it when I'm feeling super aggro. I call it hundies therapy.

I know I'm nothing compared to a lot of the guys who post on here.

Basically I have to work on my personality now because I'm not going to get all the mires any more.

I'm high on Kratom right now so I probably don't make sense.

But being big and strong is fun. I just have to realize my heart doesn't like it.

>>41753465
200mg wont kill you unless its prostate cancer that eventually happens. mostly all you got to do for that from what i know is just take vitamin d3
>>41754724
get your shit together. find a purpose in life

>>41752888
depends entirely on where you're coming from.

i came from nothing and only started lifting afterwards so i have nothing to compare it to.

>>41753095
all i know is that im a sack of human waste without it, but thats low natty test in general.

Is there anything you can take that will just help you lose fat/weight, and not build muscle?

bump for answers
>>41753622

>>41755010

The compound profile page is interesting, but it doesn't mention anything about LVH. Weird.

>>41755118
dnp but thats gonna be a wild ride for someone who is a complete newbie like you.

>>41753622
if you have a reasonable doctor, probably something between 75-200mg.

which with correctly dosed pharma gear would put you roughly somewhere in the 800-1500 range depending on how well you respond.

>>41755136
>dnp but thats gonna be a wild ride for someone who is a complete newbie like you.

desu I'm just asking as a boxing fan who's curious about how a fighter dropped 40 lbs of fat so quickly to make a lower weight division.

I'd love to go on gear myself, but I'm already having enough difficulty keeping my hairline intact.

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Okay, she left me on read. She ain't gonna go get coffee with me. Why she led me on for an entire week before shutting it down, I don't know.

>>41755146
man those fighters go through some hard shit, i have no idea if DNP is allowed since im sure some diuretics aren't.

DNP isn't a steroid tho.

>>41755147
move on or else you'll end up like mr crusader there.

>>41754863
Basically all aas will have that effect

>>41750101
No, taking human growth hormones definitely does NOT take away your natty card.....
Fucking hell bro

>>41755194
>bro

fuck off back to rebbit normie

>>41754849
Feds cracking down on that shit ATM man. Don't ask me how I know this.

>>41755259
Good to know.
I'll guess I'll stay on the natty plateau a little while longer.

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Tell me what drugs I need to take to look like this

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Had a good day at the beach with that girl I had a crush on in high school, fellas. Still haven't smashed, but it was fun. Thanks for reading my blogpost.

>>41755613
After dropping a few % bf should I bulk on Anadrol or Superdrol?

This will be about 6-7 weeks on test e 500-600mg + lgd

>>41755637
fug wasnt meant to be a reply

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Lads what do I make of this? Should I take her word or is she just playing with me? Should I just text her?

>>41755682
inb4 last night was a blur of coke and BBC

>>41755682
Bad call even acknowledging you were worried she was ignoring you. You, as an in demand busy man should be too busy to even notice if she hasn't texted you back in a week, let alone a night. Don't be needy - it's literal pussy moisture eliminator. I'd stop texting and let her msg me - she may never, but better than wasting more time chasing something that doesn't want to be caught

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>>41755682
B E T A

This makes me feel better about my life choices

Stop sending her messages. Also type out whole words, you aren't a middle school girl. Jesus

>>41755682
I think "some trouble" sounds sketchy as fuck

Not my kind of girl but if it works for you, stop drilling her. That kind of girl has a million dudes around her and the only way to win that over is to infrequently make contact, but make that contact meaningful.

>>41755711
Lol so naive.

Also why dont you take a seat over there..

>>41755682
>drunk slut
Dropped

>>41755613
Well?

>>41755711
MODDDDSSSSS

>>41755682
Sounds like she was exhausted to be honest.

Probably had her first DP experience

>>41755733
400 mgs of learn some patience, fuckwit

>>41755737
I'm 18 so it's all good my dude

>>41755744
Whats dp bro

>>41755746
>400mg

NOT GONNA MAKE IT

U P T H E D O S E

>>41755760

double penetration

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is BW the most expensive part of a cycle?

how often did you guys get your BW done when you first started?

>>41755787
Free in Canada lol u mad

>>41755790
mad that my PM is a cuck?

nah senpai I'm good

>>41755636
Yo Grieve you based in Tdot? If so, where and how to buy syringes and needles?

>>41755812
North of Toronto, but easy man just walk into shoppers drug mart, head to the pharmacy counter, and tell them what you want. They'll ask for what kind of injection, I just tell them intramuscular and I've never had a further question about it from them. Just make sure you specify pin length or they may give you .5" which is not going to be a good time

>>41755812
As a note I'm not fat so I can get away with using 1" 25 gauge needles in my glutes, and I get 3 cc syringes. I think they were less than a dollar each, 60 cents or something when I bought a few dozen

>>41755877
Thanks man appreciate it, gonna start that baby's first cycle soon once the gear arrives

>>41755877
Is it just "hello, 25gauge, 1.5" syringes please"?

>>41755911
Yup pretty much! You'll be nervous just like I was but all you have to do is say what you need, and if they ask (they won't) say it's for B12 injections. Have fun with babby's first cycle, I'm going into week 10 and loving life

>>41755925
Sweet bruv, not the guy who first asked you btw. Just another senpai.

Did you buy from the illiterate mongoloid on sst by any chance?

Running a risk as I'm going to use ugl Nolva and Aromasin since it seems indian pharmacies don't ship to Canada rn

>>41755937
I did not, I know who you're talking about though. I get mine through a friend of a friend - I've got Pharma aromasin and Nolva, but if I were you I'd just really monitor (with bloods preferably) your estrogen levels so you can make sure your AI isn't bunk. Nobody likes free tiddies. If you order from that guy, make sure you review on SST because I'd be interested to see what the deal is. Apparently there were issues with poorly capped and underfilled vials previously

>>41755970
No the mongoloid only has issues with his english and that test problem a few months ago, wasnt aware of any underfillage.

Tips on getting bloodwork done? Just hit up walkin clinic I'm guessing? The stuffs already here btw, looks fiiine

Is the new Pirates of the Caribbean any good?

>>41756069
Your mom's blown out snatch was good, great even.

>>41756083
Yeah I mean probably was, but is the movie any good?

>>41756069
dont even think about it mr

MOVE ON

>>41756101
i like this meme

>>41756101
Already decided on it. Either taking her to see Wonder Woman (which I've already seen) or Johnny Depp act like twat

>>41756110
better idea show up to meet ur ex at the movies but bring the redhead w/ u and make ur ex feel awful

>>41756110
please dont watch ww for a second time
i mean ur a lil bitch sometimes but god damn

>>41756117
Well ex thinks redhead girl is prettier. So that might work if I could be fucked.

>>41756124
WW was pretty terrible

>>41756127
ur obligated to do it just like I'm obligated to breed gal Godot

>Ex put some shit in her hair
>Ask for pictures
>She says no and slides the topic
>Stop responding her
>She sends me a picture

Did I do good bimbo?

>>41756140
yea i like this but don't reply for the rest of the night otherwise you look like you were just being petty and bratty because you didn't get your way

>>41756156
Well I fucked up.

Also it's 1 in the afternoon.

>>41756162
you gotta think ahead man

>>41755937
>the illiterate mongoloid on sst
that dubty guy?

>>41756174
No the Canadian source

>>41756173
But shouldn't I reward her good behaviour with my attention?

>>41756189
wow

>>41756189
no in fact good behavior doesn't even need to be rewarded it should be expected duh she chastised you for giving a shit and wiring her cash she scolded you for your good behavior takenthat under consideration reciprocate her behavior mechanisms. Punish bad reward good and really seldomly reward at best

>>41756206
Cheers.

>>41756265
like does she give you asspats for token gestures expected of you? Doubtful

hey Crusader, can you redpill me on BW? how often did you get it done when you started? and is it the most expensive part of a cycle? or can you skip it if you're just starting Test E?

>>41752315
Epo

>>41752315
>cardarine
Gw501516
Look for the raws and mix it yourself way cheaper and works great, I run it along side tren to keep my cardio up

>>41756280
Well, yeah.

>>41756287
Done bloodwork once, lol. Might get some more done after this tren shit is over to see how hard I fucked myself. If you're going via public healthcare system, it shouldn't cost you anything. Going through private is fucking difficult and can cost hundreds.

Do as I say, not as I do. Get bloodwork done as often as you can. Optimally, before, during and after cycle.

>>41756280
She's a girl though.

BnC guys, how long do you normally end up cruising between blasts?

>>41756344
idk what this means just stop rewarding behaviors that she wouldn't think twice about

eq frontloading worked because I'm fucking starving lately

>>41756338
but if I get triple BW for one cycle of Test E then I'm out several hundred bucks

and ye I have military health care so I'll see if it covers it

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>>41756374

Goddamnit fucking forgot trip and posted the uncompressed image.

>>41756362
Girls are fashioned in society to need praise for their every action, where men are not.

>>41756371
If you got military insurance, fucking go for it.

>>41756387
Jelly of your symmetrical abs.

>>41756395
maybe but that's all the more reason to withhold it stupid

>>41756374
>>41756387
ur cute lil guy :]

when u payin FL to scoop out those tits with a melon baller

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Not cheeting

>>41756395
is military good? idk I get it from my Pa

>>41756439
idk i hear it's good. I have family in the army.

>>41756454
sick, gonna start baby's first cycle once I hit 1/2/3/4 so I'm trying to figure it all out now so I don't spaghetti it

>>41756414
But if she doesn't receive praise from me, won't she seek it elsewhere?

So what else can I offer?

>>41756454
why didn't you enlist
>inb4 "i couldnt leave my gf"

>>41756464
Because despite what I display here, I'm actually only half-retarded and can put my academics to better use elsewhere for a lot more money.

>>41756436
Exterminate trannies. It's women's fault for pushing that agenda anyways.

>>41756463
lol no she's a girl she's getting validated 100x over from literally every outlet there is imaginable. She's going to wonder why her ex bf the man who loved her is suddenly aloof and stoic. She's a young woman, she's going to want what she can't have. think about it in this capacity, you ex is you a relationship are you seeking one elsewhere what else does she even offer?

>>41756476
>I'm actually only half-retarded
im not convinced
what field interests you?

>>41756483
Uh oh bimbs is red pilled

>>41756484
I have a degree in finance/economics but I'm moving towards a career path in health/medicine.

>inb4 has a finance degree
>can't handle his own money for shit

>>41756483
Fair point yo. You're so wise bimbsie. Except when you become completely uncomprehensible.

> you ex is you a relationship are you seeking one elsewhere

>>41756505
that's a typo I was literally typing your own rhetoric back at you. if you aren't seeking a relationship elsewhere, perhaps she can act similarly towards your validation. this is the major culprit here, you're lame and a bitch w/ little self worth. If you didn't let her nag and eat at you in deliberately nuanced ways she'd probably shower you with attention.

>>41756505
Lmao thats exactly what I did in school
Youre a more beta me. Youre so fucked lmao

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>>41756530
i am laffin and there's not pills i am consuming it's just common sense on how to manipulate ladies btw this advice isn't good if you're in a solid relationship w/ someone worth ur time

>>41756521
So you're advice is, if I seek a relationship or just affection elsewhere, becoming cold to her in the process. She'll want me back?

>>41756530
I've touched a girl in the past week.

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>>41756544
Crying in their lap barely counts

>tfw never cried in a girls lap

>>41756542
You admit ive been saying common sense for ages
About time you came around

>>41756544
no that's far too literal and one dimensional. My advice is have some faith in your capacity to attract this woman. She's not going to seek validation elsewhere because: 1) she's saturated in validation all the time 2) your validation matters of course it does duh and c. She's going to miss that validation because oh no what this boy that always validates me doesn't anymore. there's zero guarantee she'll want anything to do with you my advice is more about understanding her behavior mechanisms so you can correct your lame defects

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>>41756566
>tfw u almost quadrupled s a t a n and missed by a digit

>>41756563
ill let u cry in my lap
j-just let me tuck first, it's not very feminine :[

>>41756566
Bimbo sometimes you're just really knowledgeable and wise man

>>41756592
he's probably just baked rn

I think I need to drop the tren Im a nuerotic ball of self hate, but I have 5 more weeks atleast of cutting so I cant stop. This is stupid

>>41756571
Jbflgf

>>41756590
Ok but you better be pretty damn cute.

>>41756592
I appreciate that but I deal w/ a lot of these same shortcomings on a smaller scale. I dealt with these issues I just take time to reflect and dissect.
>>41756601
nah I'm sober these days I drink maybe once a month but no recs

>>41756609
>cutting on tren
>Im a nuerotic ball of self hate
rly made me think

>>41756563
Just means I'm closer to her pussy.

>>41756620
Its not the cutting
Its the now getting into week 20 of tren

One examples is im uncomfortable playing summer lesson, so I clench my jaw at vr girl. Then im mad at myself for that, which causes more jaw clenching, which leads me to holding my damn jaw at work all day, which gets me mad at my propensity for jaw clenching in the first place. Thats just one part of the retarded thoughts from playing just 1 videogame. It all goes like that. Everything is interrelated and im the fetid core

>>41756639
Birds of a feather flock together
(Im calling you a pussy, stupid)

>>41756651
Thanks for the clarification.

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>>41756651
>Everything is interrelated and im the fetid core

yo Crusader, my military Tricare covers Lab Services and even Gyno Surgery

how do I go about getting BW? do I just go to the doctor and request it and give him my insurance card and co pay? or do I go straight to a lab?

>>41756658
No problemo, pal.
Although I am actually very jealous
Smh

>>41756663
Thats the one constant in life.
And I hate it.

Is clomid + nolva enough for PCT after a fairly long (24 week) 250mg test cut cycle? Or should I add HCG? How many total IUs of HCG would I need to run right before PCT? Would 5000 be enough?

>>41756722
where are your parents? it sounds like you never had anyone forcing you out of comfort zones so you could actually develop

you're going to be miserable unless you keep pushing yourself, but I think you're smart enough to realize that already

i-i'm sorry it had to be this way, jerry-san

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>gf starts new job
>week later she's asking if I've heard of polyamory

>>41756691
Dude I don't know. I'm Australian. I just go to my doc and say I'm injecting cattle hormones and want to make sure I haven't fucked myself. Then I get free bloods.

My guess is call up whichever practice you go and ask if they accept mil insurance, then just go in and ask your doctor for a blood test referral. They give you a sheet of paper, then you go to a pathology centre, they take your blood, send the results to your doctor, then you go back in, he gets angry at you for how fucked your bloods are and you go home satisfied.

although free gyno surgery is fucking based.

>>41756722
put yourself out there jerry, make yourself vulnerable for once in your life.

>>41756779
you always post stories like this, just stop it okay?

things are bad enough as it is

>>41756760
Bruh im old, my parents live on the other side of the country lol

Yeah I know, that just makes all my failings all the worse. Im a capable guy, im willing myself into this.

>>41756782
>free gyno surgery

How long is the waiting list for cosmetic surgeries?

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>>41756782
>cattle hormones

fucking kek, I might try that, any downside to telling your doctor you pin in order to get tests? or will he let you get one no matter what?

>>41756802
no idea, I live in CA so there is a clinic every block

>>41756805
In America, I imagine it fucks with your insurance premiums.

In Australia, it's still going to fuck your insurance premiums but you don't face any additional healthcare levy until you earn over 105K if you don't have private. So you could in reality just pay the levy and never touch private because private wants to charge you out the ass.

I would like to know if there would be a big differance if i start crusing on 150mg test per week starting as a low test natty with "solid base"

Im still not sure if i should start with begginers cycle of 500mg/week for 15 weeks, drop it to 150mg and cruise on that dose or just cruise from the beginning

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>>41756796
>that just makes all my failings all the worse
don't say shit like this, it doesn't look good on alpha men

just remember the worst shit you can do is give up and flee to comfort. you owe yourself a shot at happiness, you've already come this far

jb jerry gf

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tfw no thicc gf

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>>41756926
Tfw going on a date with a girl who looks just like my anime waifu

What do i do with Leftover AI turns out i barely aromitize at all and i have a neary full bottle of aromasin left over after a 20 week cycle.

Also what should i d next now that ive found out im genetically gifted

>>41756985
Throw it out then bulk

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>>41756859
>you've already come this far


>>41756966
Stop lying on the internet

>>41756985
Take all AI at once just for keks

>>41756992
Wont throwing hormones out fuck with the water supply?

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>>41756996
Looks just like my waifu ****aside from the colored hair

>>41757005
Yeah, lol, but throwing AI will probably help offset all the birth control that gets flushed

>>41757014
Good point. Im convinced.

>>41756985
i dont use ai either

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>gf thinks its weird I want to call her mommy while suckling her breasts

What a prude..

>>41757068
you dont have a gf

now fuck off

>talking to redhead girl
>I'm tired as fuck
>tell her I like boobs
>she says she doesn't like hers
>tell her I liked hers from what I can remember
>She responds with "Omg" with a laughing million emojis

Can somebody dissect this?

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>>41757156
>"my memory is a little hazy though, send me a pic to remind me"

>>41757173
Fuck I hate myself now.

>>41757190
show us her tits

>>41757255
I don't have pics of her tits nor would I post them if I did have them.

She's a model with a pretty distinctive tattoo.

>>41757271
are you seeking treatment for your paranoid schizophrenia

>>41757173
If cucksader did this word would have gotten back to his ex and she would have gotten jealous and wanted him back...

If only he wasn't a retard..............

>>41757275
Nigger. I don't want to be doxxed. That's perfectly rationale.

>>41757309
>made potato gems
>Called her oni-chan
>she replies "I want some and I'm a girl! :("
>I reply "Prove it and you can have some"
>She replies "I think you've seen proof I'm a girl ;)"
>>"My memory is hazy, might need a reminder."

See, I'm not a cuck guys. I'm a real alpha male.

>>41757359
Agreed, some fag implied he was trying to dox me a month back. Not worth posting pics

9 weeks into a test/eq cycle. fist time taking eq. I work in food service, and for the third time now after a long ass day of basically doing LISS for 10 straight hours, I have minor chest pain on the right side and a random bruise on the middle portion of my left pectoral. Anyone know what could be causing this or if it's something I should be concerned about? probably going to the doctor monday.

>>41757408
chest pains and internal bleeding in the chest. sounds like a pretty serious concern anon

>>41757408
you also havne't started taking fish oil and aspirin also have you?
or torn anything in your chest while at the gym?

What does /fraud/ think of insulin use with AAS?

>attempt deadlift PR
>grip gives out
>drop it to the ground
>manager gives me my "final warning for aggressive behavior"

>>41757475
Did you tell him to stop being a fag?

Or just use straps cunt.

>>41757469
Quick way to die if you aren't an expert

>>41757469
After a certain point it's a useful tool if you really want to get huge. I think the only person who regularly posts on /fraud/ who might benefit from insulin would be bimbo.
It's kind of like DNP in a way, it's really effective but if you're a retard with it you can fucking die really easily.
>>41757475
I'd start looking for a new gym m8. Failing that use straps and or learn a little bit more about fatigue management/how to periodize your training so your CNS isn't shot to shit when trying to PR.

low t fagot here. what can i expect by going on trt.
how does it feel to have high t?

>>41757468
Neither, and no injuries. I regularly check my BP too and it's completely fine. 115/75ish. Hopefully I don't die.

How much can I expect my testies to shrink on my first cycle? I just got on and I'm meeting my ex in 4 months.. I don't want her to laugh at my lil raisins.

>>41757529
About half to 1/3rds. At least that is what happened to mine

>>41757529
Get some hcg and they will be bigger than your natty balls

>>41756843
bumpening

>>41757610
Just do a 500mg cycle.

>>41757621
but what about cruise after the cycle? i've got low test symptoms since forever and my test was low for last 3 years

>>41757643
What about it? Jus cruise on 250mg just like everyone else. If you're going to inject bathtub hormones into yourself, it doesn't matter too much between 150mg and 250mg.

>>41757651
i remember that you "should" always pct your first cycle rather than cruise after but since im a low test faggot i don't see why i should ever come off

>>41757494
Slin would make bimbo super aesthetic but I don't want him to end up diabetic.

>>41757596
If I was to get just enough HCG for this purpose (for just 1 or maybe 2 cycles) how much would that cost someone going through typical sst?
>>41757593
fucking scary

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Did my first shot today, by myself like a big boy and it didn't hurt at all.
Almost chickened out, because the needle looks huge, but then i rammed the fucker in 1mm per second.
Oh man i'm suprised my 'fuck it, thi has to be the spot" approach after not being able to pinpojnt it after shifting trough youtube vids and google images for over 5 hours worked.

Is it normal to not feel a thing?
It did felt as if i was passing through skin and then 2 more layers (of fat?)

>>41757720
shouldn't feel the needle if it's 25 gauge or smaller

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Holy shit, if you guys aren't taking 20-30g of psyllium husk a day you're missing out.

These are some next level shits.

>>41757738
supplements are a fucking meme

every cunt out there has some meme supplement they swear by

>>41757720
I'm curious if you'll get bad knots of pip like I did my first time

>>41757734
22gx1.5 (0.7x38mm)

>>41757746
How long will it take before i find out?

I'm also already feeling good, but that might be the adrenalin from having gone through it succesfully or do Test+Deca stack work really fast?

>>41757799
>22g

but why

>>41757799
>pinning with a 22g
>not feeling anything

What the fuck are you made of?

>>41757829
I've been told to get those.
Which ones do you use?

>>41757839
Now i'm starting to think that i injected it into fatty tissue.
Is 10 cm (3,9 inch) to the right from the upper part of the buttcrack the right place to inject?

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>>41756387
nice chest

said no one ever lmao haha

>>41757873
I don't know how big your ass is.

>>41757920
It's huuuuge.
Nah, in total about 30-35cm (11 - 13 inch) in width

>>41758217
gonna need pics to tell you more specifics.

>>41757738
where do I find more of this, watermark and google search gave nothing

>>41757718
You need around 400IU per week for at least around 4-6 weeks (near the end of the cycle it will also aid in recovery).so that's additional 40dollars or something

>>41758277
Inject 200iu subcutaneously twice weekly btw

>>41758277
thanks. not thrilled to blow an extra 40 but better to have things safer I suppose

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>tfw when you are too afraid of getting fat to fully commit to a bulk so you seem to hulk for a week then cut for a week ad nauseum while injecting Chinese bathtub chemicals

Why am I like this

>>41758522
autism

>>41757720
you can feel the needle slipping from fat to muscle rather easy if you pay attention.
and even if you injected in the fat it still works. not optimal but whatever

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>>41758522
iktf bro

s-summer bulk for life

>>41756069
>>41756110
pirates of the caribbean was pretty shit

jack didnt say anything worthwhile except "LOL RANDOM" shit.
the plot was hamfisted af
the intro is awkwardly distant
they hamfisted in a "IM A STRONG INDEPENDENT WOMAN OF SCIENCE"
jack shenanigans are cancer now

i wasted 28,99 eu on this shit.

>>41758701
gal did well in ww i think ill take her