/fat/ general - Cookies are for closers only edition

>>41678350
Fat bump
Empty calories=loser calories

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>wake up hungry
>no food in house

seriously considering ordering a pizza

pray for me, /fat/

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>>41678376

>>41678475
Horrible video

>>41678475
Ah, that tasted great!

>not imaginary eating junk food

>>41678475
What the fuck, dude. I just came in my pants.

>>41678387
>>41678387
>>41678387

REAL THREAD

Abandon this shit

>>41678540
Is that like the sniff diet?

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>>41678594
anyone got any insight? sorry for posting in the wrong thread.

>>41678598
fuck off out of this thread and get back into the right one.

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>hopefully 200 by January
doable?

>>41678633
regardless of what happens, you're making great progress

stick to what you're doing and i think you can do it

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we're all gonna make it

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Do these work?

>>41678556
Daddy, why are you and Mommy fighting?

>>41678647
losing weight makes your skin lighter?

>>41678663
for what? weight loss? did all your brain power go to supporting your fat stores holy shit how can you be this retarded

>>41678690
He improved himself all the way around.

>>41678690
less poo in diet

>>41678598
have you tried deloading and then increasing again?

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let's say that for 2 weeks, i do a 1500cal/day plan and the only food i eat is chicken breast, if i do this, will i die?

>>41678647
>20 days of water fasting

>>41678733
Yes.

>>41678733
You'll probably have vitamin deficiencies, no fiber, nocarbs, etc but you'll survive. Why not add something like broccoli for the nutritional value?

>>41678691
>holy shit how can you be this retarded

What are you talking about? DNP makes The respiratory chain highly inefficient - you do loose fat, while overheating at the same time. So yeah. it works. Problem is it also has a nasty habit of killing it's users.

>>41678770
is 500mg too much?

asking for a friend

>>41678778
DUDE


goo (dott) gl/uu7Zj5

Read it before you start taking it. There were people that died even though the amount they were taking were in "safe" range. Those pills you can buy on the internet are made with no safe standards, so it's a pretty easy way of offing yourself.

There are easier and less nasty ways of committing sudoku than literally cooking your organs to death.

>>41678733
Be fine. Use a multi or sneak in some veg so you dont feel poopy.

>>41678830
t. "official" diet industry

>>41678733

Why not cook a full meal and just not eat 4 portions?

>>41678733
Won't die in two weeks but that's a fuckload of chicken breast. It's not healthy to eat too much protein or to skip out on vegetables, fiber and other nutrients for a long time. Also you're eating like 6.5 cups of chicken a day. You'll be sick of it.

>>41679053
>>41678733
wont your cholesterol go through the roof too?

>>41679092
Balance it with protein.

>>41679101
I'm not the original poster but my main source of protein is chicken/eggs

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Confess your sins, /fat/

>i ate 4 pieces of pizza today

>>41679241
fuckin amateur.
> ate 8

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>>41679253
I used to eat this 3-5 times a week ;_;

>>41679259
>only a medium
>only 8 wings

Can't be that bad

>>41679367
2300 calories, 5500mg sodium in one meal ;_;

plus like 4 cups of milk

>>41679259
Same, except I got a pan pizza and the hot buffalo chicken.

>>41679367
>eating an entire medium pizza
>eating even MORE upon that
>in one sitting

Never. Gonna. Make it.

>>41679241
Jut ate peanut butter and crackers. Still came in at about 1,600 calories but I could have been a lot lower for the day if I had resisted. Also, eating peanut butter just makes me feel like a fatty.

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>>41679241
I went to Pizza Hut with friends and had a pizza to myself and half a cookie dough sharer. I guess it's my cheat meal but I'm repenting by trying to eat less than 1000 cal today before getting back on the wagon.

>>41678778
>>41678663
DNP works fine, literally the safest weight loss drug out there as long as you stay under the deadly dose of over 1000mg. People who died abused it because they wanted to lose weight faster, 500 mg is already 1-2 lbs a day which is better and faster than anyone else.

500 mg is fine but only if you're used to 250 mg and slowly ramped up with 250 over a few days first.

>>41678733
This is PSMF go read up on it. It works.

I'm starting to throw provolone on everything I eat. I put like 2 of them on my eggs while cooking them sunny side up and even on my meats.

Anybody else knows how long I should go before doing a carb load day (keto) ? I've been at it for 2 weeks now, and almost at 199 pound mark, but I sure as fuck do not want to plateau like I did last time at the 190s

>>41682336
There is no reason to do a carb load on keto.

>>41678647
to the loo hopefully

>>41678350
Why the fuck is there a /fat/ general?

>>41683508
>being this new
get the fuck out nigger

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>>41678386
if you fail to plan, you plan to fail. Keep your house stocked up with the good stuff anon.

>>41679241
Family is coming over and we're going out to eat, Im on keto so Ill have to find a way to salvage it best I can

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>>41678350
>want a single slice of pizza for my dinner
>every place only does whole pizza's
REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>41678475
BLUE
O
A
R
D

>>41683569
Joke's on you I've been on /fit/ for years now but I never even looked into these threads and now I'm asking why they even exist.

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>>41679241
I just ordered a pizza.
Gonna eat half of it only today, so i'll be at maintenance, still it's trash food.
I'll go for a good 1 hour run tomorrow morning to make up for it.
Maybe some cycling and swimming.

Judge all you want, mirror says i'm doing good.

Just got back from the gym after lifting to find my 1rm. It took a suprising amount of effort to maintain good form at the ~4 rep weight compared to 10-12 rep range.

Just started keto and I am going out for all you can eat sushi with some friends, what are some offenders I should avoid other than a lot of rice?

>>41683914
I was on fit some years ago too and there were way more threads about lifting, almost none about fat people. However, I think the skinny/vegan/lookism trends have brought all of us fatties here in large numbers.

>>41678350
I''m 307 right now :( so hard losing weight

>>41684391
>only half a pizza
>only
>eating at maintenance

never gonna make it

>>41685212
Here in europe, we eat 32cm diameter pizzas, so half a pizza is 6-700 calories MAX. Also, i'll make it sooner than you.

I was tempted to eat a pizza last night but instead made chicken and broccoli at 2am

Now my sleep schedule is all fucked.

Thanks a lot, /fat/

>>41679241
Same m8. Pizza is my evil mistress. Ate at my TDEE today instead of my deficit of 1600 cal. Feelsnumbman

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>tfw trying to eat less packaged foods but your cooking is too fucking lit

>>41685339
>Also, i'll make it sooner than you.

I don't eat junk food so you're probably wrong

>>41685358
>cheat life ends in 60 years
how long should i cut after that?

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>2 hour fast coming up

>>41678647
>when you eat so well you change from indian to hispanic

>>41685662
>just ate dinner
>16 hour fast coming up

wish me luck

>>41685501
There's a little bit more to weight loss than that, anon.

>40 day fast coming up
i'm going to go Christ mode
wish me luck

>>41685658
like a few days, then you're good

>>41685658
eternity, my man
you're going to cut so hard you're going to become dust

Good news, my fucking ludicrous consumption of rice yesterday doesn't seem to have caused me to gain 5 pounds of water weight

Bad news, I'm struggling to remember the last time I took a dump

Will update again when I know more

>>41685835

ever since i changed my diet i've gone from shitting daily to shitting once or twice weekly.

feels bad, but i'm breaking my previous size of shit records so that's cool.

Guys, I got to punch a new hole in belt today! The fifth one in total. Feels great!

Also, I got news that my local McDonalds had been demolished a couple weeks ago to be remodeled. It didn't even phase me even though I had been going there my entire life up until 8 months ago when I banned fast food. It is certainly an interesting feeling knowing that the nearest McDonald's is 8 miles from me and it doesn't even make a difference in my new life.

>eat 1300 calories a day for a week
>reward myself by going up to 1550 for Sunday as a treat
>feel like shit for doing so

Man this sucks. Even though I'm still at a 1500+ calorie deficit, I feel bad if I increase at all.

>>41685938
Get a new belt you cheap fuck. Congratulations, though.

might give dnp a try

>>41685955
I considered that, but I like the way it feels. It is a fun reminder. Like, if I'm walking or jogging and thinking about stopping or slowing down, I can reach down and feel a huge amount of excess belt and remember that I still have a long way to go.

Day 2 of PSMF

Been drinking bottled water like a sick cunt to counteract desire to eat more. Got maybe half a chicken breast left for my window.

I want to eat a potato.

>>41685948
I kept up that attitude and now I'm feeling bad if I go above 1000 a day

>intake a bunch of sodium for a few days
>still maintain low calories but water foods (soup, fruit, etc)
>doesn't look like I'm losing weight
>cut out sodium entirely for the next few days
>looks like rapid weight loss
I do this every few weeks because autism

>>41679241
I ate 3 slices of bread, 1 protein shake and a slice of tarte (basicly like pizza with creme fresh and onions instead of tomatos and cheese)

>inb4 not that much
I am a manlet by manlet standarts and only did 1 hour of cardio today (951kcal)

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Please post your food diaries for today. I'm very curious.
Here's mine

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does anyone else who's lost a lot of weight get significantly colder than you used to?

i've lost 130 lbs now, and even the spring weather is like fucking torture. it's just too fucking cold. i always used to HATE the heat, but now i want the 90 degree summer days to just fucking start.

>>41686170
Yes, this is my life now. My roommates keep turning the AC down past 75 I'm literally dying. At work is worse, they keep it at 68 there. I keep a blanket under my desk now, along with a pair of mittens and wool socks. This is North Carolina, I shouldn't even have to have mittens and wool socks at all, but my fingernails and lips turn purple otherwise.

I HATE being cold. I have to take hot showers sometimes just to get warm.

>>41685431
work out an extra hour

>>41686170
It is pretty hot now where I live, like 25-30°C.
I sometimes get thermal problems when doing cardio at these temperatures and need to slow down.
At the moment I drink about 600ml/h when doing cardio outside to stay hydrated even though I am a 60kg dwarf...

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>>41686204
>>41686170
Protip: Buy a cheap fan heater and keep it under your desk
Helps keep my paws and legs warm ;3

>>41686164
how tiny are you that 39 minutes of running only burn 250 kcal

>>41686224
I'm 118 lbs, and 5'2", but I also run really slow. The low calorie diet makes me fatigue easily, I can only consistently maintain about a 11 minute mile right now.

>>41686170
Yes, and I've only lost 60 pounds. We had a long winter in the PNW and I was wearing light pullovers as recently as the end of April. Even as it warms up, I'm having this issue.

>>41686224
He could also be verry slow.
t. 1:08 cycling at 25km/h average 951kcal

>>41686223
how much noise do these make?

>>41685948
>>41686070

Yeah I've been having the same issue lately. I started with my limit at 2,000 and dropped down to 1,800 after 2 months of steady weight loss. Then a few weeks ago I just wasn't that hungry and started eating around 1,000-1,200 on average and felt great.

Now the last few day I started feeling more hungry and eating around 1,500 calories and feel like a piece of shit. Also I'm not losing nearly as fast and it feels bad.

>>41686254
they're pretty audible unless you've got headphones on
why

>>41686270
If it was quiet, I would bring it to the office. I might get one for home use though.

>>41684867
I hit a mini plateau in that range. Just keep strong. Was 306 for 3 weeks then dropped sub 300 the next.

>>41684391
why not just eat two slices instead, maybe save rest for other days.

at 91kg 182cm right now

what is the best way to loose bf while holding onto muscle mass? about to hit 100kg bench for reps but noticed i'm getting pretty fucking fat, especially at the hips.
should i go high protien (200g) at 1800cal?
any recommendations?

>>41686280
>the office
you poor soul
Maybe instead you could get a heated blanket to keep over your lap

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>>41686164
alright

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>>41686170
yeah. the girls at my office make fun of me bacause im always so cold

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>>41686394
>constantly complaining to the guy next to me
>he doesn't even respond anymore

>>41686394
I hope you're finding something to make fun of them about.

>>41686170
>>41686204
>>41686244
It's probably energy conservation as a result of calorie restriction. I also feel cold af all the time.

>>41686244
>PNW
Ayy, whereabouts? I'm from Portland.

>yesterday
>catch myself in the mirror
>holy shit I'm looking slim, god damn
>today
>wtf I'm so doughy, why the fuck do I bother
fuck you brain

>>41686422
Cause men who complain are women.

>>41686455
NE of Seattle in Monroe. My friend and I are considering going to Portland for Rose City Comicon in September. Not sure yet though.

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How the fuck did I lose almost 12 pounds in 2 weeks.

>>41686461
are women who complain still women

Is loose skin a problem for you senpaitachi? I'm a 5'8 manlet. I started around 233 pounds (rn 192) and aiming for 145-150.

I do lift. I take it that muscle mass will tighten that skin as increases the surface area your skin has to cover.
as it will

>>41686502
>5´8
>manlet
Stop calling yourself like that, 5`8 is pretty normal...

>>41686485
Dehydration.

>>41686472
Oh sweet! I've never been to RCCC but I've heard good things. Worst case is the con ends up being shit and you just have a weekend trip to Portland.

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>>41686449
>energy conservation as a result of calorie restriction

>>41686502
a little
most noticeably on my arms and thighs where there's stretch marks
doesn't bother me much

>>41686517

I drink tons of water though.

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Been stuck at the same weight now for 4 days. What should I do?
Saw a post in the previous thread where a guy to laxatives to help but not sure if I could bring myself to do that and don't even know if it would really work.
Stalling is a real downside to daily weight checks, really puts me off from trying because there aren't any visible results. (Don't worry though, I won't give up yet!)

>>41686522
Well, I've gone to ECCC for 14 straight years and it's a little difficult to get around sometimes and see cool stuff because of the sheer size. However, there is a CON in Tacoma in October that is too small to be exciting. So, if RCCC is how ECCC was say7-8 years ago, that would be great. I'm thinking the only hurdle will be if there is a Seahawks game that we'd have to miss, but I haven't checked any schedules yet.

Also, to keep it fitness related, I'm finally discovering all of the hiking trails around here. I don't have a huge love of the outdoors, but I like the exercise and variety and looking at all of the fit ladies on the trails.

>>41686571
Drink more water. I was stalled and drank an extra liter of water and started losing again. You very well could just be dehydrated

>>41678663
yeah but where can I buy them?

Not /fat/ but I bbqed today and ate a ton. I've mysteriously dropped 10 pounds from last month. I was 6'2/200lbs now i'm sitting at 190

>>41686565
Maybe you have been drinking more before the first weight and less on the second.

>>41686438
one of their husband's died a few months ago. do you think that would be good ammo?

>>41686512
Lmao no it isn't.

>>41686460
ya man, my mind does the same shit

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>>41679241

I ate a single steamed custard bun.

>>41686590
The only thing I drink is water.

>>41686512
No its not you fucking manlet

>>41686606
Brutal.

The next time one of them makes fun of you, you could deadpan say "It's because all of you ice queens" and watch the butt hurt. Or you could slyly make them fat by buying donuts on a regular basis or a jar of fun size candy. Then you'll have the last, best laugh.

how to fix BM's ?? haven't gone right in weeks now. I miss the days of it being easy. hell I'd rather liquid bm's over what I've got now

I need a food scale

for the past 9 months I've been getting by on snack sized packets, presliced cheese, individual pots of yoghurt, whole chicken breasts and such
I could branch out if I could actually measure what I'm eating

better late than never eh?

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>15.7 lbs lost since May 1

>>41686639
>you could deadpan say "It's because all of you ice queens"

do you even realize how autistic this sounds?

might try a keto diet when I run out of food
I'm unlikely to ever run out though, i just like buying it

>>41686639
>donuts or fun sized candy
i like it. it's the slow knife that cuts the deepest

>>41686631
Me too. Doesn't necessarily mean you're drinking enough of it. Doesn't hurt to try drinking more.

>>41685667
Next time he wakes up he could be non-Hispanic white at this rate.

>>41686731
I dink over 3L a day.

>>41685858
I just want to get rid of some of the pain.

>>41686771
How much do you work out? If you sweat a lot you need to make up for that in water intake. Is your pee crystal clear? If not you need to up your intake. How tall are you and how much do you weigh? The higher those numbers are the more water you need to take in. I'm a 5'0 female and I drink at least 3L a day. I can guarantee you need to drink more than me. I don't see the harm in trying it for a few days. If it doesn't work it doesn't work. No harm in drinking more water.

>>41683894
Try a convenience store.

>>41686805
I don't work out too hard. Usually have a day on and a day off, or what ever suits me at the time.
I'm 174cm (think that's 5'7" manlet I know) and I currently weigh 72kg.

Dumb question but I am new, should I workout before or after a meal?

>>41686875
Speaking purely from my own experience, eat after a workout.

>>41686856
how much are you looking to lose?

>>41686856
I'd say try drinking an extra liter of water a day for a few days and see where it gets you. Past that, try implementing more exercise. Even just walking more helps. Try to get at least 10k steps per day, it'll make a difference

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>that feel when too fat to do pushups

I can barely do one, I hate myself.

>>41686880
I want to get to a nice body fat level. Estimates put me between 25-30% but don't know for sure where I'm at.
Once I reach a decent level of body fat I'll start working on building muscle mass.

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>>41686512

>>41686668
Good job! What's your current weight?

>>41686893
>tfw just plain old weak w/ no muscle mass
dunno what's worse

holy shit, my progress have gone from a steep decline to a flat fucking wall
I knew it was going to get tough towards the end, but I wasn't expecting this

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Been eating nothing but fruits and vegetables. Under TDEE. Gain 2 lbs that wont go away for any reason.

>>41686356
Different anon here,

Did you even read the post you replied to?

>>41687055
fruit is a meme.

I dont like gym or lifting , i can run but probably wont,if i cut out in portions can i become thin? And how many calories would i need to take / day to do that? 240 lbs 5feet9

>>41687055
when have you pooped last

I know we don't talk often about it but I feel like it's as important as diet and exercise for good health : sleep. How well/bad do you guys sleep?
What's a normal night's sleep for you?

>>41687055
DO NOT EAT FRUIT

they are nature's candy bars

>>41687095
7 is normal for me. I aim for 8-9. On a weekend I'll do 9-10. Lately I've been getting 6 or less because I can't sleep while fasting. My body just won't fall asleep no matter how tired I am.

>>41687095
lately? 4 hours of random sleep throughout the 24 hour cycle,usually close to midday

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>>41678475
>allergic to eggs
>cant be tempted by cakes, waffles or brownies

[spoiler]Still fat because I drink instead[/spoiler]

>>41687086
5 minutes ago. yes i weighed myself right after. im a 181.6lbs when my low was 177.8 last week.

>>41686694
Yes. That's one of the reasons it will hurt those office hags so much. I've been around enough desk jockeys to know.

>>41687095
Ever since I started losing weight, I sleep better, so I only need 6-7 hours a night. Also, if I'm wide awake close to my normal wake up time, I just get up. Going back to sleep for a half hour makes me feel worse.

A great bed is one of the best investments you can make. I just bought a PURPLE bed and love it.

>>41687095
I go to bed at 8:30 and wake up at 5:30.

Getting 8-9 hours a night has been very important to me in my weight loss.

1. going to bed earlier means less time for eating
2. when i start getting sleep deprived I get hungrier and binge
3. I have much more energy for working out in the morning, and later in the day

>>41687096
fuck off

what do you guys do to suppress hunger when you're first portion cutting

>>41678475
wtf i want to have sex with a brownie now

>>41687194
I naturally have no hunger in the morning unless I eat, then I start getting hungry. So I don't eat. But to cut hunger I eat something spicy (even just a taste of hot sauce or cayenne can do the trick), drink something really cold like ice water or iced unsweetened tea or iced black coffee, chew some gum, or have a tiny bit of fat which satiates your hunger. I've had a spoonful of coconut oil or olive oil before which works to kill hunger for a few hours.

>>41687194
I do enough cardio to allow myself to eat.

Stupid question:

I have some HMR 800 meal replacement shakes, but they're expired by two years. As long as they don't smell or taste rancid, they should be fine to use shouldn't they?

>>41678475
God on the Mountain!

>>41687242
Some chemicals break down harmlessly when expired and can still be used, although less effective.

Others can become harmful

Throw it out to be safe.

gona have a homemade burger tomorrow

What to watch while doing cardio?

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>>41687385
animu

been looking at kitchen scales for nearly 2 hours now and I'm none the wiser

I want something digital, small and accurate to 1 decimal place

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>snack bag nearly empty
thank god
had this shit stockpiled since october

I just bought a waffle maker. God save me

>>41686875
Eating means your digestive system goes to work and requires a HUGE amount of effort to run. Always lift fasted or with a PWO. You'll have a better time as your efforts aren't divided between muscle activation and digestion.
>>41686893
>tfw fat but pass the Army prerequisites
>>41687385
Whose Line is it Anyway.

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>>41685433
>gravy
>10 leafs of spinich

it's like you're not even trying

>>41686455
im sorry

>>41687230
hot sauce on an empty stomach...say goodbye to your stomach lining

>>41687566
you underestimate my power

>>41687566
>wee bit of vinegar with some mildly spicy pepper mixed in will kill your stomach lining
Have you never eaten anything spicier than a mayo sandwich on white bread?

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>>41687574
>hot sauce on an empty stomach
>empty stomach

you missed this part

>>41687566
Your stomach lining is being constantly destroyed by the acid in your stomach, some hot sauce won't hurt it.

well /fat/, i cheated this weekend. it was pretty bad but nothing crazy. in the span of three days i ate
>half a large pizza
>two ice cream sandwiches
>3 slices of pizza from cicis, a salad, a small bit of pasta and a brownie
>large fry from mcdonalds
>salt and vinegar chips
>microwave funfetti cake
>crackers
>a donut and a pimento kolache

im not mad at myself but im actually disgusted at food right now and im craving healthy things.

>>41687385
>10% of the time
Road in front of me
>90% of the time
front wheel
>why
maximum aero for maximum speed

>>41687626
with this logic, coffee wont erode the stomach lining...

>>41687652
Must suck to be a brainlet, have fun with your brutally difficult sub average IQ life.

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>>41687779
spend the next month having nothing but black coffee for breakfast, i bet you'll have ulcers by day 20

>>41687809
Day 2000 of just that. Still no ulcers

34 days since I last went over my limit
personal best is 37

>>41686487
no. they're wo-women

>>41686068
Dspot here, If you haven't booted me out yet, I'm at 240 now. Busy with work and shit haven't had time to come on here

>>41678733
>will i die?
It would be extremely painful

>>41687630
Just get back on the wagon. all you've done is set yourself back like 4 days. That's nothing!!

Rate my workout. It's a bit weird since it is a 5 day cycle instead of a normal 7 day cycle. I just think it is more efficient since you get a full body workout every 5 days instead of 7. The cycle is workout A, workout B, rest, rest, rest and start again.

Workout A (Chest, Shoulders, Arms)
Warmup – 10 minute jog at 6.5 mph

1) Barbell Bench Press: 3, 4-6
2) Over hand press: 3, 4-6
3) Dips: 3, 6-8
4) Barbell curls: 3, 6-8

5) Dumbbell Shoulder Press: 3, 8-12
6) Side Lateral Raise: 3, 8-12
7) Reverse 90 degree Pec Machine: 3, 8-12

8) Dumbbell Bench Press: 3, 8-12
9) Dumbbell Flyes: 3, 12-15

10) Dumbbell Hammer Curls: 2, 8-12
11) Cable Tricep Extension: 2, 8-12
12) Machine Preacher Curls: 2, 12-15
13) Triceps Cable Rope Pushdown: 2, 12-15

Workout B (Legs, Back, Core)
Warmup – 5 minute jog at 6.5 mph

1) Barbell Squat: 3, 4-6
2) Deadlift: 2, 4-6
3) Bent Over Long Bar Row: 4, 4-6
4) Dumbbell Shrug: 3, 6-8

5) Leg Press: 3, 12-15
6) Leg Curls: 3, 8-12
7) Leg Extensions: 3, 15-20
8) Standing Calf Raises: 3, 8-12

9) Wide-Grip Lat Pulldown: 3, 8-12
10) Seated Cable Rows: 3, 8-12

11) Decline Crunch: 3, 8-12
12) Hyperextensions: 3, 12-15
13) Leg Raise: 3, 12-15

14) Farmer’s walk: 4-6

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>tfw i can tell i'm skinny as fuck underneath my fat

>>41688005
it's why we measure bf%

>>41686970
diet break my dude

eat at maintenance for two weeks, no more no less, this is important

your metabolism will adjust and when you go back to dieting you will see better progress

>>41688044
not calling you a liar or anything but could you throw some studies my way?
I'd feel better if I read up on it

>>41688062
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/the-full-diet-break.html/

>>41678633
What website/ app is this?

>>41686893
No shame in starting with knee pushups. Unless someone sees, of course.

>>41688069
hmm
not sold on the idea
especially since the opening paragraph says;
>most people who are trying to lose weight seem to feel that the key to success is to be as miserable as possible
I'm not miserable, I'm eating plenty
comfort from food is the last thing on my mind, and a dangerous attitude

I'm willing to try it but the second the scales go up instead of down I'm bailing

5 foot 8, 185lbs. how fat am i?

>>41688137
if you're a girl, 95% chance you look fat

>>41688137
Enough to be here

>>41687642
Minimum aero for maximum resistance anon

>>41687986
I'm fat and lazy and i'm not gonna read all of that

>>41688154
More speed means more cooling, wich comes in handy sometimes.
Also you can brag about beeing fast....

>>41687652
>>41687566
I drink black coffee and eat hot sauce on an empty stomach all the time. My stomach lining is in perfect condition.

>>41688183
Unless its in the sack

>>41686132
How manlet is that, exactly?

been stuck for a few days now. losing motivation quickly. considering a re-feed or something just to try and get things moving again but worried eating more than what I am now will put me back to where I began even if it's just the one damn meal.

>>41687446
Just get the cheap ~$10 Ozeri one on Amazon. You don't need it more accurate than ~1gram. No need for decimals.

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>>41688238
Sorry, my english is pretty bad, what did you want to say?
>>41688245
Off the scale: almost 5`3

>>41688274
I am an inch taller than you.....

>>41688384
Male or female?

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>>41688190
did you check it on the daily?

>>41688400
I don't have to answer that.

>>41688411
So I assume you are male as I am?

>>41688405
I swallow a camera daily to check. But also I know because there are no holes in my flesh from stomach acid leaking out.

going to do a little lifting in a bit. dead-lifts, ohp, bench press and maybe some other shit.
>tfw can't bar squat

is there much point to lifting when cutting for the first time? pretty much no muscle mass right now mostly body fat. so I'm not really building much muscle or strength. pretty much just focus on form when I do lift.

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>delicious
>no sugar
>tests well on labdoor

It's too good to be true and the soy protein is going to give me gyno, right? They are like $1.25 per bar so maybe it's not too good.

>>41688450
All my lifts went up and I have noticeable muscle despite losing weight.

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>>41688450
>>41688554

I've always wondered how that works.

I know that going high protein while on a deficit reduces the amount of muscle you lose, I think I've read it's normally 70/30 fat/muscle but you can get it down to roughly 85/15 fat/muscle with super high protein intake. You are still losing muscle if you are on a calorie deficit regardless though.

Is it technically possible to get stronger while losing muscle mass?

All ready to track again tomorrow. I managed to be below 200 lbs for a second week. Feelsgood

>>41688630
>"your body needs protein and energy to build muscle tissue. If it gets enough protein from your diet, it just needs energy and this energy can be obtained from fat mass. The result is simultaneous fat loss and muscle growth."


Supposedly studies has corroborated this theory. Makes sense I suppose. If you eat enough protein the body uses energy from your fat stores to turn that into muscle.

13th day of PSMF and I've been lifting everyday, I've been thinking of taking a rest day but I feel good and have all this motivation seeing how fast I lose weight. What do

>>41688630
You can still build muscle on a cut as a beginner.
If you're intermediate (doing at least 1/2/3/4 for reps) this typically isn't the case.

I almost got to 1/2/3/4 reps wise while cutting. Only missed squat and diddly. That being said I hit a pretty big wall so I'm waiting till my target weight so bulk

>>41688680
Just keep going, stop if you feel like you're in danger of hurting yourself.

>>41686393
What is this?

>>41688690
its weird, I haven't even had refeeds but I feel better this way than I did at 3000 calories.

>>41688100

Are knee pushups any good?

>>41686393
>eating icecream
Why?

>>41687385
Is biking an effective cardio exercise?

>>41688771
One of the best

i dont get why people need cheats days. if you are cutting, you need to be consistent. cheat days, meals or whatever the fuck just reverses your progress. the faster you reach your goal, the faster you can eat at maintenance.

>>41688786
Any recommended distance/time/speed?

>>41688790
some people like lyle say it resets some hormone called gherlin or leptin but I agree, cheat days seem like a bad thing for me and they lead me to binge because of that "I am already 1000 calories over, what will 2000 more do" mentality

Trying to get on IF again. Woke this morning around 11:30 AM and just had some coffee and water. Didn't eat till 5:30 PM or so and had a slice of deep dish pizza and a candy bar, prolly around 950 calories. 10:30 PM now and still not quite hungry.

It's a long road ahead.

>>41688790
As someone who had failed three times for being too strict, I would much rather get to my goal weight at my own pace than to rush

>>41688274
>>41688384
>>41688400
>>41688411
I'm a female and I'm four inches taller than you.

>>41687630
How is that "nothing crazy"? Are you trolling?

>>41679241
seriously went overboard on the junkfood today. went out with my friend who eats like shit after going to the gym and hung with him for a while, ended up eating a shit ton of chips, m&ms, and chinese food, going about 1000 cals over (been eating around 1490~ cals a day)

>>41688832
No..........

Does dnp show up on piss tests?

>>41688790
Cheat meals*

People do it to eat something they really like once in a while instead of letting cravings fuck them over altogether. It's better to preemptively eat "bad" and have control over the situation rather than let the power of cravings take control. But you already knew that.

how different will my life be going from 300 lbs to 150 lbs

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>only did a little bit of lifting
>arms are sore as fuck
>lower back is killing me
I'm never going to make it.

>>41688894
you'll be half the man you are today

>>41688544
They definitely have sugar. But I live for these things. I eat one everyday. A grocery store in my small ass town sells these. Manager only gets one box a week and i buy the whole thing every time. I look forward to it as my first meal everyday. I kinda lose my shit if I have no access to them. *scratches arm*

I get the peanut butter kind.

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Rate my snack.

Sultanas and blueberries. (Pretty high in sugar I know) but I don't eat a lot or eat them often.

Anyone got a source for dnp? Should I take anything else with it? How many caliroes should I consume?

>>41688921
My mistake, didn't see that was a 0 sugar version in the pic. I wish it was sold near me (so that I could use food stamps to buy them)

>>41688680
I just started PSMF about 2 days ago and I'm hungry as fuck. When do the pangs stop?

>>41688921
Well they have sugar alcohols, which is basically sugar that your body shits out instead of absorbing.

I've been eating one for breakfast everyday too. like 30oz of black coffee and a PB or brownie bar, keeps me feeling full until dinner time some days for 250 calories.


I do worry about the soy protein. I'm sure it's not enough to actually affect estrogen levels though.

>>41688932
>dnp

Isn't this shit way worse for your than actual steroids? Just do roids and have a heart attack in 15 years.

If I'm on PSMF and can make a quest bar fit the calories and 205g protein, 20g carbs and 20g fat macros will this fly or am I fucking it up?

I sacrifice smaller things to fit it in but still do like 30 oz of chicken or fish.

>>41688952
They don't stop as much as you learn to ignore them.

>>41688964
Probably not. No need to ruin a good thing.

>>41688977
Can't find test or I would. Just need something to get m where I need. I already lost 170lbs and just a little kick starter

>>41689017
Be careful with it, I remember reading that it is very easy to irreparably damage your kidneys with that shit.

It is a main ingredient in a bunch of pesticides.

who else here /weak/ ?

>>41688905

>>41689058
Yeah, did a lot of reserch on it and it seems if you don't go full retard and keep your dose at like 350mg you'll be good. Just need a soruce

I kinda wanna do PSMF but I'm scared I'd just drop dead from it or something. My food addiction and carb dependence are very fucking real and I would not be surprised at all to find out I'm at least pre-diabetic.

>>41688952
I just drink diet coke and play video games

>>41689075
If you're pre-diabetic, keeping your blood sugar stable and not flooding your pre-insulin-resistant system with insulin is probably a good idea... If you're that freaked out at the prospect of PSMF, just do like 20g carbs, 20% of calories from fat, and the rest from protein on a 500 calorie deficit. Nothing extreme there.

>>41689075
Literally the only thing keeping me from doing keto is that raw chicken grosses me out and frozen chicken all sucks.

>>41689079
Same, go to sleep if you get really hungry.

Been doing like 1000 cals a day with this method.

Well guys, my hypertension is under control. When I started at about 320lb my blood pressure was >140/90 almost every time it was tested. Now I am regularly between 130/90 and 120/80. I am hoping it will continue to go down as I lose more weight. My erections are also noticeably stronger and I get head aches less frequently.

I want to do a blood panel. Last time I did one my AST was a little high (I don't drink so I assume that is due to fat metabolism). My HBa1c has always been good so no worries there, just my hypertension.

Anyone else making some medical gains?

>>41689115
Get an electric pressure cooker, throw frozen chicken into it with spices and some liquid. In about 20 min you'll have cooked meat to shred.

Not the most elegant of solutions but I'm surprised more people on here don't use pressure cookers.

>>41689128
How tall are you?

>>41689118
I prefer masturbating. Don't try to cum just watch porn, keep yourself hard and edge a little. Your brain only cares about three things: food, sleep and sex. If your brain is preoccupied with one of those it will not worry about the others. By the time I cum I can usually either take a nap or wait another hour or two for a meal.

>>41688988
Anyone?

>>41689136
6'0'' I am down to 259lb now. Eating 1800 cal for about a 800 cal deficit so, 1.5lb a week. Goal is 180lb which will hopefully happen next year.

>>41689130
Hmm, I actually love shredded chicken. I'll try it.

>>41689159
An electric pressure cooker like an Instant Pot is the ticket man. It's great for many other things too - chili, soups, beans, whole chickens. And these are just the things I use it for.

>>41688988
Too many quest bars will clog up the system. They are very dry especially with no fats to lube it through. They are fine for a snack but don't make them all you eat.

Also good luck on PSMF most people gain back everything while fucking over their metabolism.

>>41689155
Very nice. How long ago did you start? What's your daily menu like?

>>41679241
I shared a package of those oven cooked Doritos cheese things you get in the freezer section with my gf.

Once she left I went to Taco Bell and got 2 burritos and a quesorito. I don't know what the fuck my problem is and my stomach hurts so bad

>>41689173
Doing one a day on quest bars so no worries there. As for gaining it back I don't think that's an issue. I'm doing it for 2 weeks then cutting the last 5-10 lbs at 1800 kcal CICO.

Seems like it's just extreme keto and I lost a hundred on that.

>>41689169
I will look into this, I make my shredded chicken in the oven and it always makes the house hot.


I have a George Foremen grill and that thing is fucking amazing. I prep my chicken and veggies on Sunday, but I don't cook them. When we are ready to eat I put on a layer of veggies and then 1lb of chicken (8oz each). I then put the rice in the rice cooker and I can leave the room without worrying. The rice cooker beeps and by that time the chicken is done and I have spent all of five minutes to make a healthy meal for me and my boyfriend.

>>41679241
Been eating around 1000 a day for a while, (work early so intermittent fasting is easy). Skipped the gym today and got fast food instead :( 2500 cal day

>>41689190
Quesaritos made me gain 20 lbs lol

i am discovering SO MANY fucking hot sauces since getting on a diet and trying to keep chicken interesting

How good are motherfucking pickles

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>>41689220
Hot sauce is based.

>>41689219
>that hefty ass foil-wrapped package

Fucking bueno. I miss them.

>>41689241
Chipotle Tabasco is god tier

>>41689175
I started last April but things didn't go as planned. I had some time off so I tried a <1000cal diet, it did not work. I then tried no meat, no carbs, tried just juice, tried just in the morning. I lost about 30lb but couldn't stick to a plan. And I have a boyfriend who is also trying to lose weight with me, but also not really in it so he would break and get something we shouldn't be eating and I would eat it too.

Anyway, in January I was 190lb and I decided no gimmick diets, just plain cutting. We set calorie goals and we stuck to them.

I have several go to dishes I make, chicken and rice, veggi curry and flatbread, mexican shredded chicken and tortillas, ground chicken over salad. I always have some vegetable with it for bulk, usually green bell pepper, broccoli or cauliflower. We stopped eating out (which is probably the most important thing) and if we want a treat we might go to subway.

My boyfriend has a major sweet tooth so we allow ourselves treats like cookies, but we log everything and if we don't have the calories for it we don't get it. I feel very happy and don't feel like I am depriving myself. Really it is more of a life style change (ie eating home cooked meals, not eating to excess, keeping track of calories)

>>41689220
Try thai green curry. You buy it as a paste. you can either add coconut milk to make it an actual curry or just coat your chicken in it and cook. Is mostly green peppers and coriander, so almost no calories but tons of flavor.

>>41689304
That shit is extremely potent, you either use tiny amounts or combine it with coconut milk like you said (which is heavy cream-tier calories).

>>41679241
needed to make my weekly weigh in so I took a laxative this weekend. On the bright side, I am just under my goal!

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Just got back on the weight loss wagon after slacking for the last 2 months, lost 2kg this fortnight for a total of 20kg in the last year, down to 88kg from 108kg. Can't wait to hit 75kg so I can eat at maintenance, even if I eat filling food I still feel fucking hungry; doing my best every day not to flip out and eat like an animal.

>>41689320
Coconut fat is actually really good for you. But you can always use half a can of full fat coconut milk and a cup of chicken stock or a full can of lite coconut milk which has about 250calories a can.

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Indian food has been a fucking godsend. This is the most flavorful shit I have ever tasted in my -life- and there's basically nothing in it that adds significant calories besides the chicken itself.

http://www.rachnas-kitchen.com/chicken-vindaloo/

That's a long-ass list of spices but I promise you if you live within 45 minutes of a major city there is an indian grocery somewhere that sells a 1-lb bag of each of them for $3 a pop.

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>>41689372
> indian food
enjoy your permanent loose bowel movement. you know that their food make them shit anywhere, even on streets, right?

>>41689406
On the contrary, the minimal grease and the insane variety of high-fiber vegetarian stuff they have going on has made my bowels a lot less irritated. But very smelly.

>>41689372
Be careful, the recipe calls for two tablespoons of oil which is 240 calories. Many indian dishes have full fat cream, lots of ghee and fatty coconut milk that adds calories.

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I'm literally only fat because of coke. Every time I try dieting and working out, the one thing that fucks me over is that I literally need to drink coke. How do I get unaddicted /fit/?

>>41689454
D I E T C O K E
Coke Zero if you are truly a patrician

>>41689468
but it tastes like shit. hmmm... maybe I can get used to it though. does it work?

>>41689475
its an acquired taste. took me a week to get used to it. somehow it suppresses the crave for the OG coke

>>41689454
Is it the caffeine or the taste or is it thirst?

>>41689484
frankly there are times when I think to myself after buying a bottle "jesus this kinda tastes bad" so I'm gonna guess the caffeine.
>>41689482
have you lost weight?

>>41689495
Try getting caffeine from other sources: coffee, sips, caffeine tablets

>>41689495
It's totally *everything* about it.

I'll bet you can taste the difference between normal Coke and Mexican Coke (made with real sugar), can't you? I know I can.

I just had to completely quit. Sometimes I'll have Cherry Coke Zero. Trying to quit that too because if I have it around, I binge. Bad.

>>41689495
yes, 185lbs to 155lbs. still overweight, but im almost there. im not lifting btw, just the occasional run, walk

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>thread past 310 calories
>no new thread
>don't want to make another since autismo will throw a rage fit at me again

>>41678633
Pete?

>>41689058
Nah, DNP does nothing to the livers. It's safe as long as you stay within the dosage. Only people who go full retard and take over 1 gram die.

>>41689527
>>41689468
just to clarify, diet coke literally does not make you gain weight at all right? maybe I should try sparkling water if diet coke is too shit

>>41689597
you should take 2 grams and stop shilling fucking fertilizer to weak willed beta males, you piece of shit. No one who takes DNP will ever make it. Ever.

>>41689611
I'm not even shilling it, I'm just informing people of the facts.

>>41689606
>diet coke literally does not make you gain weight at all right?

Correct. There is *some* shit out there about possible effects on insulin levels which can *maybe possibly indirectly* lead to slowing down weight loss but at the end of the day its caloric value is zero.

>>41689615
not him but you literally are
>>41689621
so in other words choosing between sparkling water and diet coke is essentially just personal preference? diet coke is really hard to get used to taste wise imo

>>41689606
do it. you can even get a home water carbonator -
should be pretty cheap and runs off of CO2 bottles. get the water super cold and add a squeeze of lemon. delicious.

>>41689631
>so in other words choosing between sparkling water and diet coke is essentially just personal preference?
Yes. Neither has any calories, period. Although diet coke has other shit in it that is probably not good for your long-term overall health whereas seltzer water is literally just water with fucking bubbles in it.

>>41689615
You're a shill if I've ever seen one, you fuck.

A lot of the people in these threads at 300-400 pounds are desperate to make a lifestyle change and will try to justify shit like DNP to themselves to achieve it. 'Oh, I'll only do it until X and then I'll stop and do Y because I'm sick of living like this.'

I don't know if you work in the farm fertilizer industry or if you're just a troll sadist, but you're having people ingest fucking poison for unsustainable results and a cycle that repeats itself.

You dumb /fat/ fucks out there - if you ingest DNP to try and cut you will never, ever get the results you want and you will likely die in a bathtub full of ice.

Do it the right way, put the fucking time in so you can accomplish this on your own and sustain it on your own - permanently. I know there's an appeal to chugging pills to cleave off the pounds and I don't give a fuck if you go to an EC stack or YHCL stack, but literal poison will not help you do anything but fuck your shit up.

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>>41689669
>name fag
>reddit spacing
>fuck this fuck that fuck you
keked

>>41689669
I'm just stating the facts. Stop being so angry, I've done 1 gram of DNP years ago and would rather answer honestly for people that ask the questions than some retards like you who spread misinformation about how it'll kill you and ruin your liver and shit.

>>41686594
r/dnp/ you goddamn'd newfag

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>>41689468
Diet Peps> Coke Zero > Diet Coke

Diet Mtn Dew Code Red is the best though. DIET BAJA BLAST WHEN???

>all of these cheap as fuck delicious frozen veggies and zero calorie pop

It's never been easier to not be fat.

>>41689815 NEW THREAD
>>41689815 NEW THREAD
>>41689815 NEW THREAD
>>41689815 NEW THREAD

Is cottage cheese a good snack?

>>41678633
Doable if you stick to dieting and train intelligently. Regardless you should stick to it whether or not you reach the goal.