/fat/ "gym was closed today" edition

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>Started tracking calories and macros last week, after working out hard for 5 months 6 days a week
>Go to the store for a post workout sip
>See my fav icecream right next to the sips for some reason
>Actually had the willpower to say fuk that I want to make it

Today was a good day /fat/

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>5 minutes until i have to eat more broccoli

>>41616104

throw a little salt/pepper on it

>>41616104
Mmmm. Lucky you.

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Hit the sub 200lb mark this week. Feels good man. Shoutout to /fat/ for keeping me going.

>>41616118
so you're saying there's no point to bother with it until the stretchmarks fade? because until then they will be a dealbreaker for women regardless of weight?

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>>41616104
I'll eat it for you

>>41616104
Jelly!
>>41616127
Feels good man, keep pushing it down, sub 200 is where the real changes start to begin. Welcome to being human again
>>41616133
Yes. Take responsibility for your past actions and cop it on the chin like an adult. Otherwise I think I speak for everyone in /fat/ when I say "don't let the door hit you on your way out"

>>41616104
broccoli is a fucking blessing

i can replace rice/noodles/wholeheat pasta with it and it tastes just as good

ez less carbs

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>>41616127

>>41616053
>git a handheld Fat Loss Monitor
>uses electricity to calculate body fat and BMI
>first day numbers are 44.7% BF and 51.1 BMI
>fat as fuck
>literally on Day 6 of water fast
>try it again
>44.8% BF, 52.2 BMI

This was a mistake.

>>41616160
>Yes. Take responsibility for your past actions and cop it on the chin like an adult.
okay, so don't bother losing weight until they fade.

>>41616127
Very nice m8. Where did you start and how long did it take you? I just hit 210 today so im hoping I get sub 200 very soon.

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TDEE results week two, now with fitbit stats included.

Friday I drank for the first time in about 3 months, glad to see it didn't derail my progress too much. (I also budgeted properly where I could somewhat afford a 3500~ day).

>>41616104

I eat broccoli 3-4x a week. Steam it in the microwave and layer that shit up with spices.

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was doing cruches and my abs had a muscle spasm, that crap scared me so bad

>>41616171
Sounds good to me.

you'll never make it. have fun being boogiemode.

nah, you'll make it. you're all potential chads.

>>41616133
Yes. Nothing else will change them significantly. You could tattoo over them, if you care that much/like tattoos. Your ex sounds like a piece of work whose own shit don't stink and I don't know about the majority of women, but there are some who won't care.

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Help fat im in a plateu , hasnt lost any weight in 3 weeks in a strict 1500 calorie diet after 4 months of losing 1kg a week

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>>41616127
Nice dude, you're gonna make it

>>41616189
>Your ex sounds like a piece of work whose own shit don't stink
i don't think any women would want to touch acne on anyone.
>there are some who won't care
just like there are some that like manlets?

>>41616200
Yeah but you don't sound like you're in a positing to be picky. Losing weight will help and by the time they fade you will already look good, as opposed to waiting for them to fade then spending several more months trying to look good.

>>41616190

go to estimated maintenance for a 3-4 days/week.

>>41616053
Forgive me FatJack for I have sinned.

Today I ate a fillet 'o' fish half a quarter pounder with cheese and half a mc chicken sandwhich for lunch. Then a portion of lasagne and finnished my GFs penne alla norma and had cheesecake for dessert. 4000 calories today lads

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>>41616190
Try cutting at 1200

>>41616200
The 6th week of dating, I asked my then girlfriend (now wife) to pop some zits on my back.

She did it. Thats when I knew.

>>41616190
Try a refeed day

>>41616223
But... what happened to the other half quarter pounder and mcchicken?

>>41616236
gf couldnt decide what she wanted so had half of each, and ofc i was like i will take care of the leftovers as im a fat fuck

>>41616232
im doing 2 refeed days at 2300 calories , feels so bad man

>>41616218
>by the time they fade you will already look good
i have already bought DNP and roids. it will not take 5 years. even without the roids it would only take ~1.5-2 with the DNP.

why would any woman would think musculature or visible abs looks good when it is covered by stretchmarks?

>>41616255
some woman don't give a fuck m8

>>41616255
>DNP
>roids
You're almost too perfect. Good luck fatty, be sure to come back and show us your results.

I'm wanting to get into shape for a bachelor trip isn't going to in destin in august. 215 and 5' 10. I love my IPAs. What should I do? Am I too far a gone and destined to be the fat guy on the trip?

>>41616285
just invite someone fatter than you

>>41616285
Is*

>>41616297
I did that for my bachelor trip. This group I'm going with are the definition of chads

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>move back to college apartment cause summer class
>can't take god tier scale cause mom "needs" it
>scale is discontinued

I really don't want to buy a scale only to have it be the type to fluctuate several pounds when weighing yourself twice in a row. Also don't want to pay extra for fancy shit. Any recommendations?

>>41616299
really? that's your only edit?

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>>41616104
If you don't eat your broccoli you'll make /fit/ sad.
You can do it mate.

>>41616255
Change your life or fucking don't, but stop making excuses dude. It sounds to me like you want to convince yourself it's pointless so you can keep being a fat fuck.

By the way, almost all dudes with muscle have stretch marks. I have them on my biceps and traps. But they fade and they're barely noticeable anymore. This is the case for most dudes with a muscular physique.

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>>41616297
He said bachelor party, not bachelorette party retard.

>>41616277
i don't understand what you're memeing about.
>>41616329
>It sounds to me like you want to convince yourself it's pointless so you can keep being a fat fuck.
no, i just want to know if it's worth the trouble when you exclude pointless things like "making it." so far it seems like people have said no until the stretchmarks fade.
>I have them
as large as mine? in as many places as me? were they incredibly unattractive when they were bright red?

>>41616075
congrats dude. small changes lead to big things.

>>41616357
Get a fucking tattoo if oyu're so fucking ashamed of them.

People aren't perfect. Deal with it, and stop whining.

>>41616357

>hit new weight loss level
>finally sub 180lbs.
>smiled at girl yesterday and she smiled back
>we laughed as we bumped into each other on the way out
>didnt get a chance to talk to her
>she is there everyday
>gym is closed today
>wont see her until tomorrow

I'm making it guys. Im gonna talk to her tomorrow, worst case I make a new friend. Best case i get my first qt gf.

>>41616365
>People aren't perfect. Deal with it, and stop whining.
would you say the same to someone who was very fit but reviled by women because he was 5'4"? probably not. same concept.

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>>41616322
Probably too expensive for what you want
https://www.amazon.com/Withings-Body-Composition-Wi-Fi-Scale/dp/B01F3LJ2RW/ref=sr_1_3_a_it?th=1

I have the previous gen, I'm really happy with it and it doesn't fluctuate too much. Pic related.

>>41616357
Jesus Christ you sound like a kid, dodgy all responsibility and "Wah Wah woe is me." 1/10 wouldn't even give pity friendship
>what are you memeing about
1. You're willing to take a pesticide to lose weight where you can do it with just eating less (fatty shortcut)
2. Your a fatass Lardo and have already bought steroids thinking they'll help change you. (Fatty shortcut again)
3. You're likely to be the one to fuck it all up by jumping straight into the above without any forethought, only to later on whine "see? I told you so! Wah Wah I knew I shouldn't of done this" and then try and push the blame onto other anons for "convincing you to do them"

tl;dr you're a pathetic manchild who deserves to stay fat and ugly, hell, I'd take an r9k friend over you

>>41616396
Yeah it's a bit much, hopefully looking for one under $40. Nice progress tho mang!

>>41616421
I just got a plain digital scale from target and it doesn't fluctuate

>>41616386
Yes.
Jesus Christ, Yes.

There are things beyond your control. Your height is one of them. Fix what you can, don't worry about stuff you can't.

>>41616322
i've had this one over a year and no complaints

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F3J9G1W/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I don't trust our bathroom scale. It claims I'm down 2kg in just a couple of days. I've only been eating one meal a day but it's been pretty big.

>tfw no digital scale

>>41616431
Cool, what brand?

>>41616450
A lot of scales have some variance, mostly because they get moved around a lot and lose calibration.

The scales in Doctor's offices are usually the best way to accurately judge since they're stabilized, and rely on actual weights, which leads to actual consistency.

Your bathroom scale should be a way to get a read on progress, not the end all be all.

I know this sounds retarded but could someone explain what hunger feels like?

The past few days I haven't felt like eating so I've just eaten once a day just to give my body something as I don't really want to fast for days.

>>41616456
Taylor, just a black plastic one, I think it was $19.99

>>41616479
Your stomach hurts, you crave food and you feel like shit.

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>>41616416
>a pesticide
meme. it's proven to be a potent and effective treatment for fat loss in obese people.
>steroids thinking they'll help change you
men taking steroids and doing absolutely nothing gain more muscle mass than those eating correctly and going to the gym regularly.
>>41616435
>don't worry about stuff you can't.
Why?

>>41616285
That's plenty of time to drop 20-40lbs depending on how hard you push yourself. Go for it m8. Start lifting and dieting right now.

>>41616475
>Your bathroom scale should be a way to get a read on progress, not the end all be all.
I know this, it's just kind of hard to trust when it jumps around so much.

As for doc scales I know they're better however when ever I've had to use them I'm told to get right on along with my shoes, layers of clothes, wallet, phone, keys, etc.

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>lost 50 pounds over the past 14 months
>bf is still fat, hasn't lost a pound
I'm starting to lose hope that he'll ever start giving a crap.

>>41616496
I'm done responding to you. You're clearly a fucking retard.

Normie who stopped going to the gym and is now trying to get back into it. Lost my noob gains and rocking the skinnyfat look. I don't know which is better to start with, losing fat weight or gaining muscle weight.

>>41616508
You wouldn't be the first one to get their shit together and leave a lazy partner.

>>41616510
Why not both? As long as you eat enough protein you're bound to not only lose weight but also gain some muscles.

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>>41616486
I don't have any stomach pain, haven't had cravings for food in a long time but I do feel like shit all the time. Thanks Depression!

>>41616496
This >>41616509
Hang around, leave, do whatever man.

>>41616255
>i have already bought DNP and roids

/fit/ - Fitness.

>>41616509
>>41616537
does science hurt your feelings or something? if you have a large amount of weight to lose you'd be a moron not to use DNP. calling it a "shortcut" means nothing.

>Gut was starting to get really low, shirts were starting to have trouble hiding it
>lose some weight
>stuff tightened up and it's not an issue anymore

Gonna... make... it...

>>41616053
tfw permanently fat beacuse i dont have the money and balls to either tell my mom her cooking is shit and she wont be able to understand what counting calroies is
and i dont have the moeny to move out
what do

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alright i managed to eat the broccoli by putting some soy sauce on it. it was still awful.

i'll let you guys know how the tomorrow's broccoli eating goes.

>>41616449
It has good reviews although I'm skeptical about the no return policy and it being discounted twice.

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SW: 277
CW: 220
GW: 175 (for that dank 100 lb bragging rights)
Height: 5'8

Been stuck at 220 for a hot moment friends. I've been letting my diet go the last couple weeks because I just got home from Uni for the summer. Been hitting the gym harder than ever though. Back to strict diet. 1500 a day.

I feel the fat melting away, but the scale isn't moving. Sad!

>>41616563
EAT LESS
A
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L
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S
S

>>41616568
How are you cooking it?

Try roasting it in the oven.

>>41616563
Just do the cooking yourself.

>>41616568
What about cauliflower? To my knowledge it's just broccoli with a less broccoli taste.

>>41616549
This should be a /fit/ banner

>>41616498
Recommendations for a diet? I have a eating disorder and can only follow a strict regimen or else I'm binge eating like a Ethiopian's first trip to a buffet

>>41616552
It is a shortcut and a crutch for weak dumb people.
You're not learning to maintain your body properly, you'll either have to take DNP for the rest of your life or "go on a diet" then yoyo back up when you're don.

>>41616580
im also an emotional eater and cant control my shit habits
or have any self control at work at a restauraunt
meanwhile im 2 years into college and no job wants to even give me an interview, even like entry level basic shit if not internships, like . fucking bank tellers stressing me out
no friends etc suicide is incoming imo

>>41616589
have no ingrediants, mom only buys ethnic food, gets offended if i want to make eggs myself
insists she makes it
puts shitty ethnic spices in all her food, chicken, fish, eggs etc

>>41616612
>It is a shortcut
this is a positive.
>crutch for weak dumb people.
this is not an argument.

i feel like you don't understand how it works if you think you can just eat whatever and still shed weight.

Help my room is full of moths and I know those fuckers are just waiting for me to turn the light off to start tapping all over the place.

>>41616629
It artificially ups your TDEE, it is a crutch for weak dumb people. Let me guess, you're taking it.

>>41616634
flamethrower

>>41616549
Please someone submit this as a banner. I'm on my phone.

>>41616648
>It artificially ups your TDEE
if you eat garbage and above that artificially raised TDEE it does nothing.
>it is a crutch for weak dumb people
"Cars are a crutch for weak dumb people" - Horse/Wagon Merchant
that's how you sound.

>Monday
>nasty weather
>net calories of 635 today
>still feel like a fat sack of shit

Weather truly fucks up moods.

Of course, I also feel like a fat sack of shit cuz I didn't eat too well all weekend.

>>41616667
It still sets the limit higher than without it, are you incapable of primary school tier mathematics?

>>41616172
started about 260 mark. i mainly use KG. was at around 118 last september, and hit 88.8 this morning.

>>41616628
fucking hell excuses excuses. you're not going to make it if you don't even try. you're just here looking for an easy out. which surprise surprise doesn't exist.
either live or die as the fat fuck you are or grow some balls and tell your mother she's a shit cook and stop stuffing your face.
fuck you for making me type this. get your shit together or fuck off.

I'm a fatass that has been eating 2500 calories a day in order to lose some weight, but more than that I've been super active. I do cardio every day(with one day a week just being a light casual walk to give my body a bit of rest), I lift weights 3-4 times a week.

So far, I've been losing weight and putting on considerable newbie gains. The question is will this not continue? I know people say that you can't gain muscle while cutting, but it doesn't make much sense to me that my weightlifting progress is going to magically stop because I'm losing weight(particularly while keeping my calorie intake moderate for a fatty) and I'll just stop getting stronger. Do they mean mass as in appearance or that literally I will hit a wall where until I stop losing weight, I won't gain anymore strength?

Because ideally I kinda wanna get big while losing. I don't want to be a skinny bitch. I'm okay with not being huge, but my ideal is to cut and hit a kind of fatty with obvious strength kind of aesthetic.

>>41616689
>It still sets the limit higher than without it
so does exercise you fucking moron. is exercise a crutch for weak dumb people too? after all, as long as you correctly calculate how many calories you're burning with a given exercise you can enjoy an artificially inflated TDEE.
besides, it has side effects. it makes you sweat and hot constantly. or are you stupid enough to think enduring exercise "pains" is somehow not weak, but enduring objectively worse effects is weak?

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so today, I ordered a double cheese burger at wendys, which was my only meal today aside from a med coffee. The burger without the bun was fine, but I got curious and looked up the nutrition facts for the sweet tea. The sweet tea had 37g of fucking carbs, I fucking drank 3 sipps of it and after I read that, I panicked and spat that shit out in panic.

I fucking hope that doesn't get me out of ketosis

>>41616707
"You can't build on a cut" applies to single digit bf%, worry about that when you get there.

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Oh god I fucked up guys
>be 6'2 240lbs
>tired of being a fat depressed faggot
>started walking/jogging 3-4 milee a day
>week later
>today I can't move my legs at all without extreme stabbing pains in calves and knees

Fucking kill me now, I knew I over did it

>>41616714
Which part of "artificially" are you struggling with?

>>41616740
oh so you're actually a retard. got it.

>>41616177
It's amazing how much harder it gets sub200. Congrats though man

>>41616707
From what I've read, noob gainz stop at around 6 months, and you'll have to continually eat less calories to keep losing weight. Although, you may stop losing weight if you reach the point where fat is replaced by muscle at an equivalent rate.

>>41616718
Good for you. I would have spit it out (hate sweetened tea) and went right back in and get a large frosty because "fuck it, I already went over my carb limit for the day". I hate myself

>>41616729
Eat a little more today. Give yourself a good number of carbs.

This is pretty normal. Leg doms when lifting are severely exacerbated when you're on a deficit and don't get adequate calories/carbs to accomodate recovery.

I've seriously been nearly bed bound for a hard leg day on low calorie. It's why my leg days are always on Friday so I can take the weekend to reover.

>>41616749
Not an argument.
And I'm not the one ingesting poison because I want to cheat my way into health like everything else I do in life.

>>41616776
>Not an argument.
neither is "but it's artificial!!!!"

>>41616718
>sweet tea
>shocked at carbs

How do you think the tea got sweet?

>>41616718
>sweet tea
Literally worse than coke. Almost as bad as mountain dew.

>tfw even diet mountain dew sitll has like 10g of sugar in it.

I would say if you're ever going to go eat fast food, only ever order diet soda, or better yet, just get a water.

>>41616322
20 bucks on amazon dog..

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>>41616729
Ever heard of these things?

>>41616783
Actually it is.
You are poisoning yourself because you can't handle eating less, or healthier. Like a weak dumb person.

>>41616322
wii balance board tethered to your phone or PC

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>>41616818
>poisoning
almost everything is poison, though. guess you should stop drinking water.

>>41616807
Have an old elliptical sorta thing but rather than making step like motions it just swings your legs back and forth. Thinking of using it every now and then just to change things up from using the treadmill all the time.

Why does my weight fluctuate so much? I've been cutting for two weeks and can't tell if I'm making good progress or not.

>15 May
196lb 19.2% 35" waist

>17 May
195 18.9%

>20 May
193.6 18.7% 34"

>23 May
196.6 18.7%

>24 May
194.4 17.9%

>26 May
192.8 18.4%

>27 May
193.8 17.4% 33.5"

>29 May
197 18.0%

>>41616834
>2017
>still drinking dihydrogen monoxide

>>41616841
I always use cross-trainers in my gym and they are the best cardio device a fat person can dream of.

>>41616848
Water. I would just assume that you're 196 until you constantly hitting into the 180's range

Should I keto or not?

Also should I do a carb refeed at times?

>>41616859
Cardio is exercise that makes the heart rate increase right?
Thing is I don't really notice any kind of big increase in mine. I check mine pretty regularly when on my treadmill but it never really that high. Yes, it's above my resting rate but still not what I'd assume cardio would do.

>>41616870
Depends on you will power

>>41616874
How high is yours? Mine is usually between 125 and 140 which is the perfect frequency to lose weight.

>>41616729
mix some rest days in there dude.
>tfw went for a long hike last week and now i have a bad blister on my heel
can hardly walk with shoes on lmao

>tfw 97 calories above goal
i'm trying to get into making absolutely everything from scratch. what are some of your favorite veggies? i'm knocking around a few ideas in my head, one of which would essentially be a low carb taco bowl. very lean ground beef, shredded kale and celery, and some tomatoes. might switch celery or the tomatoes for broccoli or something. i usually hate veggies, but love 'em in tacos so i figured i could use that to get a lot more in my diet.

>>41616874
You're doing cardio wrong.
Get on a bike, switch to the highest gear, stand on the pedals and sprint as fast as you can.
I guarantee you'll be spitting your lungs out in 30 seconds.

>>41616834
At the end of the day you aren't solving the main problem, which is your unhealthy relationship with food. You will either take DNP the rest of your life or get fat again unless you fix this.

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i ate peanuts and corn today for dinner

discuss.

>>41616909
>it's COMPLETELY impossible to learn how to eat better unless you spend 2 years accomplishing what could be done in 4 months
no you're just retarded.

>>41616848
Ignore daily fluctuations, consider the long term trend. Your weight is probably going to vary by 1-2 lbs during a week, that's perfectly normal.

>>41616874
>Thing is I don't really notice any kind of big increase in mine

Just raise the speed...
If you're confused about cardio, get on a threadmill, and raise the speed until you're running at full pace. When you can't take it anymore, lower the speed so that you're still running/jogging, but not at full speed.
this is how you do cardio; your intensity should be at a level that you're having a mental fight with your mind that's telling you to give up because this is too hard

>>41616563
Get a job

>>41616948
>mfw I did that on a bike starting at the beach
I stopped at a altitude of 2050m.

>>41616848
Are you lifting?

>>41616970

Yes, I was doing TM before and continued on the for first week but then I switched to Madcow. I also walk 2 miles every day with my dog.

>1/3 cup peanuts
>2 scoops of protein
>250g of broccoli
>1 pound of cottage cheese

every single day

how do i cook other things, everything has so much carbs im so confused

>>41616870
I've been doing keto for almost 2 months now.
I eat very well compared to most people dieting. all the other fatties in my office doing diets can't fucking believe how I can get away with foods that they are told not to eat because of fats(lol)

Despite everyone thinking my diet is bullshit( everyone in my office is starting to notice me being skinnier, with my old high school clothing being the only thing I can wear. The fact that I can eat steak, meat, and cheeses and be completely happy. I can't touch rice, bread or pasta, but I really don't care anymore.

try it out for a month, but do research before you do.

>>41616992
>keto
>do research
Literally eat vegetables, protein, and moderate fat while restricting carbs.

That's it. Maybe add a bit of salt to food, but this is basic ass shit.

>>41616992
where should i do my research? just googling 'keto' leads to lots of results unsurprisingly

>>41617039
you're going to hate me for saying this
but the keto subreddit is very helpful. that and you can youtube alot of the stuff as well.

>>41616984
Gaining muscle and losing fat at the same time = not losing weight. That's why your waist size is still going down.

>>41617052
>he doesn't know that reddit hating is a meme and we're all powermods

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6'6 320 down to 251 this week.
Facial progress is nice.

>>41616922
No you.
We'll see you back in a year or two.

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>>41616161
no broccoli is fucking disgusting fuck off

>>41617098
not an argument. you've not had an argument this whole time.

>>41617092
Nice glow up.

>>41617101
Broccoli is delicious you sperg

Fry it a little peanut oil with soy sauce, ginger, and lemon

>>41617108
The argument has been presented from multiple posters, you just refuse to acknowledge it.
See you back in a year or two.

>>41616989
Here's an easy guide - the outer perimeter of the grocery store (meats, produce, dairy/cheese, eggs) is keto-friendly (careful with the yogurts though). Nearly everything in the middle isles will be carb-rich because that's where the packaged food is.

>>41617092
Holy shit. Mirin! Pretty homo

>>41617124
>soy
And then you'll end up posting "guys is this fat or gyno?"

>>41617092
Very cute anon you have a nice face I'd kiss you no homo

>>41617125
>The argument has been presented
so far we've had
>it's poison!
>it's not natural!
>it will work in the absence of diet!
>you need multiple years to learn how to eat!
>i don't like it!
which are all either retarded, non-arguments, or both.

>>41617146
Soy sauce is basically salt you aspie.

>>41617156
Then why don't you use salt instead you sperg

>>41616508

leave him

call me baby

>>41617052
reddit is basically 4chan without the bantz, memes and shitposting

>>41617092
good stuff my man, looks like a totally other human being

losing fat is making it harder for me to fap, I lay down and my hand is touching my god damn hips making it feel weird, what do

Down 80lbs already. Still haven't tracked a single calorie or given a single fuck about macros. My only guideline is don't eat too much protein and stay under 20g carbs daily.
What now?

>>41617298
>What now?

I dunno... what do you want ?

>>41617298
>haven't given a single fuck about macros.
>My only guideline is don't eat too much protein and stay under 20g carbs daily.

choose one brainlet

>>41616104
Broccoli is goddamn amazing. Can't stand it raw however.

>>41617327
You know goddamn well what I meant. I don't aim to get exact percentages every day. I can tell when my meals are composed of too much protein. and it's not hard to determine the number of carbs in things.
You're just butt devastated because you didn't think anybody could lose a significant amount of weight without micromanaging their diet.

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>>41617257
Yes, i'm not even surprised anymore

>>41617366
don't mind him he must be a noob.
Only noobs and veteran lifters count calories

Hey /fat/

first time posting here but I've struggled with bulimia since I was 16, and am now 23.

Whenever I try to cut weight, I do it well for about a week, then binge eat and vomit to undo it.

I also do combat sports, so I'm forced to cut weight all the time, with pressure.

Last two binges on this cut.

1/2gal chocolate milk
2 boxes zebra cakes
1 18" cheese pizza

I ate all of this and then vomited. It felt wonderful.

Today I came home and had around 600 calories of spaghetti, 300 calories of oatmeal bars, and maybe 400 calories of almonds.

My cut has been going well, and I'm around 10% bodyfat. I have a photoshoot type thing for cosplay this weekend and have been doing 1500 calories a day, and with that meal i went easily to 2.5k

I vomited and now feel awful.

Will this be athing for the rest of my life?

low carb makes me feel fucking horrible and I just want to eat buttered rice.

>>41616892
90bpm roughly calculated yesterday

>>41617391
I disagree. I don't count calories because I'm so goddamn big at this stage it doesn't require that level of micromanagement. I can see being under 250ish (arbitrary) where it would matter more to calculate your TDEE and eat at a healthy deficit and get the macros exactly right. I plan to start once I get under 250.

>>41617397
lad this general is not for gaining weight

>>41617397
Why are you doing low carb if it's doing this to you? As long as you're eating at a deficit you'll be fine. Hell I've eaten 4 bags of vending machine food in a row and still lost weight.

I can't tell if I'm hungry. In the past I either ate from routine (breakfast, lunch, dinner) or out of boredom at times. But now that I'm trying to lose weight I'm really only wanting to eat when I need to. But I don't know what that feels like. I thought I was hungry earlier but then I had to do something for a while and I don't feel that way anymore.

lads i bing eat out of boredoom and have no real alternatives on what to do besides shitposting and playing wow


how did you overcome it?

>>41617513
adderall or meth

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>>41617471
I no understand your words.

>>41617476
I'm trying to maintain high athletic performance and also correct a hormone profile caused by being obese as a child till 16, by eating only carbs.

I have a lot of energy doing low carb, but mentally all I want is to eat them. My body feels better, but I can't will my mind to do it for more than a week without this stupid binge - vomit cycle

>>41617513
By keeping yourself busy.
Talk to someone and hang out outside, you know, normie stuff.
That's what worked for me

>>41617513

I've been addicted to wow and was addicted to LoL lately. There is nothing else to do besides deleting your characters and delete the game.
Perhaps try to get banned by spamming racist comments or something.

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>>41616479
I mostly eat out of habit desu, If I fast for a day by bedtime my heart rate drops to 45-50 and I will eat something salty like pickled mussels or onions to take away to feeling that I might die in my sleep.

>>41617542
Have a cheat meal with a friend at the end of the week? Hopefully you wouldn't try to puke in front of them.

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>>41617655
>I might die in my sleep.
last night I watched a man die in my dream.

>>41617697
Then I feel guilty and will possibly have a ruined mood around another human being.

I can't figure out how to rid the guilt of going off book with diet, or even figuring out how not to binge.

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>>41617513

I spent way too much time playing WoW as my main vidya myself to the point where I didn't want to do anything else with my free time.

It helped to give up MMOs and just opt to play single player and non-MMO multiplayer games only instead. Still get to enjoy vidya when I find the time, but I'm way less addicted to the hobby now and only play games if I'm feeling up to it after doing all my other important shit first. (Like exercise.)

MMOs were a mistake.

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>tfw 1,453kcal

Another day,another victory /fat/.

>>41617481
Plan out a 350-500 calorie deficit, and eat that food. You don't want a massive deficit that will cannibalize your muscles and cause metabolic damage. You don't want to be skinnyfat. Lift, plan/track food/calories, proper deficit, .8g protein per pound of goal bodyweight per day.

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>>41617716
>last night I watched a man die in my dream.
Did you feel his absence when the morning broke?

>>41616707
At a certain point your body will need more food to have your muscles recover properly. My muscle recovery takes longer when I'm on a diet vs when I'm bulking, I have to take probably another rest day per week to recover. Don't worry about being a "skinny bitch", just focus on the weight loss, it sounds like you're on the right path. You will make gains more quickly when you go on a lean bulk anyway.

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>tfw studying stem
>get to 92 kg from 110 6 months ago
>go to gym 5-6 times a week
>exam period
>gone to gym 4 times within last 12 days
>eat pasta+vegies, two lidl cottage cheese things, flapjack, 6 coffees, buckweat+vegies, wrap with ham cheese and smoke 2 cigs and take all nighter

I wish i studied a meme degree and had the dedication to following my healthy lifestyle during exam periods

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>>41617750
That's all it takes Anon. Consistency.

>>41617750
Good job, keep it up!

5'10'' Started at 244 now at 235lbs. TDEE is 2,427 cals, been eatin 1800 a day. Also lifting weights daily, spinning some days, and walking several miles a day.

Been angry as fuck. About everything and nothing at all. Give me tips bros.

>>41617741
>MMOs were a mistake.

If bought WoW on day 1 and quit playing before sometime during BC or wotlk, you have experienced something unique in video game history that pretty much will never happen again. Still wished I never played though... so many precious prime (20-25 y-o) time wasted

>>41617741
this pic is too real for me. all my friends are gone and doing adult things and dont even text me.

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>>41617786
>I wish i studied a meme degree
I do too, I'd rather be studying History or Anthropology rather than Mechanical Engineering, but the market's too flooded with those people right now. I swear the stress on getting this degree is going to make me lose at least 10 years on my life span.

>Mechanical Engineering
Studying the same shit, i will finish this degree mentally and physically broken with no gf

>tfw no friends

heh... nothin to it

>>41617856

I have to laugh at people who say stuff like this, because they obviously never played Ultima Online...which was the true golden age of MMOs. The players made the rules, decided their own fates. Every day was an adventure in that game. I have so many stories from it to this day that our friends laugh about.

Part of what made that game amazing that will never happen again is it had every player type all in one game. You had murderers, thieves, anti PKs, roleplayers, craftsmen, mercenaries, scammers, wealthy merchants and kings...and it all played out in a kind of free for all. Things that could never happen today like literally fucking MINERS GUILDS murdering each other over prime mining spots and sometimes going to war over it. Leaving town always meant the risk of death or undesirable types.

It will never happen again. Ever. It was like the wild west of MMOs.

>>41618060
Eve still exists and is like that, problem is Eve is boring as fuck to play, it's really just a background task you check every so often

>>41617397
>will this be a thing for the rest of my life
Not if you deal with it, most likely by seeing a therapist.

Still don't know if I'm hungry, I do know that I need to pee so at least I have some understanding of my body.

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>>41616053
>Started cutting with mfp
>Hit 2400/2800 cals for the day
>Feel starving for the first time in a long long time

So this is what hell feels like

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> mfw pee is clear white and you take pride that you made yourself well hydrated

>>41618162
you'll feel like that for a month. if you make it through that it's easy.

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>birthday
>coworker gift me cake and chocolate
>eat cake and 2 boxes of chocolates
How do I deal with this?

>tfw went vegan and the weight is melting off

feels good being a healthy human being

I highly recommend it, brothers!

>>41618211
VOMIT
O
M
I
T

>>41618211

Share the cake with people. Or account for the cake in your calorie intake. Eat the chocolates sparingly one or two at a time during meals.

If you don't want to do any of that, gift it to someone else, or give it back to them, and just say you're trying to avoid stuff like that since you're on a diet. Then look at their stomach, then look back up at them and give them an overly cheesy very fake smile.

>>41618223
here is your (you) now please leave

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I ate at 8 PM and I'm really starving right now what can I drink to make this hunger go away. I'm looking at black tea

>>41618223
enjoy never being able to eat meat again when you get tired of your meme diet.

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>>41617985
That feel is my entire life

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>>41616127

>tfw still not below the 250 mark

>>41618272

I just drink plain water to fight off hunger pangs.

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>>41616053
>starting a 1000 calorie deficit cut
>want to go from 180 to 150
>tfw one week down and 14 to go
Existence is pain. To save money and make sure I stick to the diet I each the same fucking thing each day. Giant bowl of white/brown/black rice with broccoli, carrots, chicken, onions, and zucchini thrown in. Three cups comes about to 1200 calories and I burn on average 2200. It's working so far but it's a pain in the ass.

My shits look great though. Fiber is a god send.

>>41616053
>Month is almost over
>Have the day off
>Figure I should finally sin up for the gym like I planned to for the last few weeks.
>Drive to la fitness
>Closed
I guess there is always june...

>>41618304
I drank 1L of water right now actually. Still kinda hungry. Been doing this for the past week. Just sleeping through the hunger but I feel like there should try better alternatives.

fat tinder anon from the other thread back again
she's coming over Friday.
asked if she wanted to go out and see a movie but she said she'd rather just hang out at mine and watch tv.

what does this mean?

>>41618316
>gout and kidney stones run in the family
>best prevention is to drink shitloads of water
I regularly get a gallon and a half a fucking day. Been doing it for years and it works though, doctor always says my tests look great. Thank fuck we are designed to filter water out easily

>>41618259
>>41618279
I'll enjoy being healthy.

For those who are actually interested...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0IhZ-R1O8g&user=NutritionFactsOrg

>>41618309
1000 cal isnt too hard, ass load of veggies and cut out rice, replace with protons and easy mode. if u must have carbs then replace rice with oats and berries feels like bricks in your belly.

>>41618317
she wants the d

So small problem. Been cutting a few weeks, eating 1500 cals (310 pounds, so tdee is upper 2k to lower 3ks). Noticed that I have been actually retarded after 5 pm. Can barely do basic things. Figured its caffiene related since i started drinking coffee in the morning. However today I am experiencing really bad memory loss. Forgetful, but also I can't remember how i got to places or how things got done. I spent 20 minutes looking for a sock already on my foot. Locked keys in my car. Don't remember half my work shift.

Obviously I sm concerned but i am not sure if this is from losing weight, vitamin deficiencies, not enough sleep, etc. I know asking here is prolly retarded but has anyone else experienced this? Im only in my 20s so i dont think its dementia

How do you guys eat this much? I don't understand since I'm used to eating a little a day. But I still have 1938 calories left on MyFitnessPal and I have no idea what to eat. Should I just try eating some more to meet my eating goals? Help me brod today's the first day of my diet!

>Diet perfectly, autistically even
>Have one sip of beer
>Down a sixpack minimum, guaranteed
>Regret it
>Avoid alcohol
>Eventually have that sip again
>Repeat

It's killing my gains but I can't stop. I could stop smoking, soda and fast food but not my fucking beer habit.

>>41618223
would rather stay fat than be vegan.

>>41618333
>cut out rice

no

add brown/black rice and beans

>>41618343
She's not going to get it. I don't want to have sex with someone the first time I meet them.

>>41618356
Pizza or something

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I've been 248lbs for two weeks. Very annoying. I'm no longer counting any exercise I do in my calories. That has to be a source of error. Not sure what else is.

>>41618356
Just do the exact opposite of the advice here.

>>41618379
I would encourage you to watch this presentation by a medical doctor who has dedicated his life to nutrition. He isn't the only MD that advocates a whole foods, plant based diet either.

It's not just about being fat. You WILL die of heart disease early in your life if you continue eating meat and animal products.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0IhZ-R1O8g&user=NutritionFactsOrg

>>41618394
>You WILL die [...] early in your life
that's fine with me.

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>21 days of dieting at around a 1k cal deficit and cutting out shit like soda and snacks
>not hard, not even annoying aside from factoring in if i'm going to get drunk
>lost 5.6kg
>can actually feel my body getting lighter
Why didn't I do this earlier?
I feel fucking great.

>>41618394
>I would encourage you to watch this presentation by a medical doctor who has dedicated his life to nutrition. He isn't the only MD that advocates a whole foods, plant based diet either.

You are aware that you could probably find two MDs that recommend blasting your asshole with coffee as a healthy practice, yes? That's really not saying much. There are at least two MDs that probably recommend every diet fad in existence. Including Aunt Jemima's all pancake funfest.

>>41618402
That's sad to hear.

Anyway, I hope others lurking this thread will watch the presentation and change to a healthier lifestyle.

>>41618419
Since most MD know nothing about nutrition I agree that it's not saying much. But if the growing group of MDs sifting through thousands of studies and keeping up with cutting edge nutrition research all agree that removing animal products from the diet and adhering to a whole foods, plant based diet is the only way to treat and prevent chronic illnesses then I'll trust them.

>>41618436
Also, the "well I can find studies/experts that say otherwise!" argument is extremely lazy and doesn't mean anything. The tobacco industry used the exact same tactic back in the day.

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STOP EATING

>>41617298
>My only guideline is don't eat too much protein
What's wrong with "too much protein"?
t. noob-macro counter.

>>41618394
>trusting nutritionists when they have fucked over American health
sure bro go eat your bread like a good boy and don't eat any of that nasty meat!

>>41618459
There's nothing wrong with eating whole grain bread.

I trust medical doctors that spend their lives reading through thousands of studies on diet and nutrition. Please watch that presentation I linked.

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>>41618383
>I don't want to have sex

>>41618394
You'll face a permanent nerve disorder if you don't eat meat.
>inb4 but I eat B12 supplements!

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Just ate this after another 24 hour fast. 250grams of food. Rice, pork, beef, prawns, chicken, peas and some other things too.

>>41618484
you'll understand when you're older than 19.

>>41618458
two things. The first is a myth/meme that it'll hurt your kidneys
second is no fucking idea

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Day 7 of sobriety is in the bag! One whole week without cigarettes or alcohol, I'm feeling so much better.

I just came back with some groceries I was thinking about buying a bag of chips or some sort of cheat food to reward myself for 1 week, but I was a good boy afterall and only got:
-3 bags of frozen fish
-3 bags of mixed frozen vegetables
-4 cucumbers
-couple of pounds of onions
-eggs
-mushrooms
-tomatoes
-avocado (I wish avocados were dirt cheap... love em)
-garlic

Ps: this is just stuff I needed, it doesn't represent everything I eat

>>41618453
I'm so close to breaking and heading to the store.

I have a shopping list of good food on it, but I don't know if I can continue fasting.

Every morning I get up and feel fine, but after like 6 hours it's this constant desire to eat.

>>41618513
I'm 23.

>>41618553
most people are able to control their hormones by then. sucks to be you i guess.

>>41618481
biggest problem is that bread is very different per manufacturer. I get brown rice or oats guess what its the fucking same everywhere. I've seen whole grain bread that had HFCS in it
>>41618543
then you got the keto fags who go crazy with the meat. Basically protein is fine. You'd have to do something stupid and eat only rabbit or only fish or all white meat chicken breast. Be hungry but don't eat shitty food
>>41618553
not mentally

>>41618495
If supplementation bothers you that much then eat a small piece of meat every month.

B12 doesn't justify eating shit tons of fatty beef everyday or even every week.

Also, if you care about climate change then going vegan is the best thing you can do to combat that.

>>41618563
>I've seen whole grain bread that had HFCS in it

Definitely avoid added sugars whenever possible. Don't just buy any bread that says whole grain.

>>41618528
From one alchie to another, well done and keep it up. I've been tapering and will have to cut myself off for June and July to finish my cut. Godspeed and best luck my dude... we're both gonna need it.

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>>41618566
>Also, if you care about climate change then going vegan is the best thing you can do to combat that.

>tfw isolated myself
>All I do is watch anime, study and strive to become more in shape

>>41618571
I've become addicted to brown and black rice. Shit is so comfy. Can add a shitload of vegetables to it and meat and just create, I don't know what is that? It's not a stew it's some some glob of everything I microwave up and eat

>>41618566
>B12 doesn't justify eating shit tons of fatty beef everyday or even every week.
No, a regular diet does that as an omnivore species.
>Also, if you care about climate change then going vegan is the best thing you can do to combat that.
The best thing to combat climate change is cease all food relief funding in Africa and to de-industrialize China and India.
Barring that your Vegan lifestylism horseshit isn't doing jack shit for the climate, media climate alarmism aside.

>>41618517
too much protein takes you out of ketosis

>>41618602
>a regular diet

What does this mean? Should a regular diet be causing all the heart disease, cancer, etc. that we see nowadays in every country that has adopted a western diet?

>>41618587
Substitute the meat for some beans and you're good!

>1 session at the pool costs $5 (five dollars) - and that's with a concession card
Fuken oath
I'd just get a membership there but the gym closes at 10pm and is often busy (I get intimidated when there are other people at the gym)

>>41618586
Are you me? if so, when did you start studying again? nerd. But really, how did you get back into it? you've got 198 days before shits due. Get your act together.

>>41618507
chinese fried rice great way to lose weight

>>41618626
The problem is that too many people aren't eating a regular diet you moron, that's why they're getting fat and disease and shit

>>41618348
hmm....probably not related to your diet. See a doctor it sounds pretty serious.
It just might be a deficiency however. I'm nowhere near an expert, but try taking a multi-vitamin? Make sure you're getting enough potassium, magnesium, and sodium? Good luck.

I broke my fast with a dill pickle after 130 hours.

It was an amazing pickle.

Smell of neighbors BBQ ribs threw me off. I went into a ravenous craze and seriously considered jumping the fence and taking all the food there.

I'll continue the keto, and might even consider fasting again, but that shit is hard as heck. I'm gonna make some deviled eggs now for a few hours from now and tomorrow morning. Then I'll go shopping and make sure to get veggies and good proteins.

>>41618740
desu i got fat because of a sleep disorder. not diet. it's easy to get fat when you sleep 18hrs a day.

>>41618574
thx, stay strong brother

>>41618495
Taking a B12 supplement is preferable to eating dirt. That's how animals, and thus you, get their B12.

>>41618740
What is a "regular diet"?

>>41618626
>heart disease, cancer
>indicative of a western diet
Meanwhile half of everything in Western Africa and Southern China is fried in 5x the oil of even the worst western fast food.

>>41618740
most people don't eat smart becuese eating Healthy is both more expensive, and takes more time, why take 50 minutes to make a nice Delicious Healthy meal, when a family of 4 can go to Mcdonold's and have thier food in under 5 minutes?

I hate that garbage food as much as pretty much everyone here, but the biggest problem is that garbage food, is easier, and most of the time cheaper to get. change that, and Obesity will go away very fast.

also Soda, Fuck Soda, it's cheaper than Fucking water is in bottles, like what the Fuck.

>>41618507
looks good man

>>41618779
>half of everything

Then eat the other half?

>>41618747
Doctors not an option with my income, but ill try a multi and see whats what

>>41618660
Getting back into it was easy. My job said if I don't get this certification by mid July I'll be fired.

Everything else, I just want to feel better about myself and what I'm doing with my life.

>>41616053
If anyone can help, my problem is that I can easily give up food as far as appetite is concerned, but if I don't get enough calories I get wet shits, sometimes shits that will just slip through.

I could easily trim 500-1000 cals, but I don't want to shit myself at work. Eat broccoli and such?

>>41618801
What's your diet like?

>>41618790
>eating healthy is more expensive

Why do you choose to perpetuate this myth?

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>>41618798
Ah but then your qi gets out of balance because you're eating too much cold qi food.

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>>41618776

>>41618642
but the meat is in there for protein. I already get my fiber from the rice and veggies

>>41618826
It's ok. Just drink hot water.

>>41618834
You nor anyone else has ever heard of anyone having a protein deficiency. Plenty of athletes get enough protein from beans and lentils.

>>41618790
>eating Healthy is both more expensive
I eat chicken, rice, veggies, and eggs. I spend less than $50 a week on food
>>41618856
do tell, how much protein is good for the average person and then an athlete aka someone trying to grow muscle??

>>41618795
>looks good man
but that's so unhealthy
reeeee

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>>41618776
>What is a "regular diet"?
Picrelated + the whole grains and legumes food group

is it true that daily walks of 1-1.5 hours can help me lose fat? I lift 3-4 days a week and eat 1800-2000 calories a day. i have injuries that cause a lot of pain for most cardio workings that go over 15 minutes, but walking doesnt hurt.

>>41618911
walkings the shit man
I got a dog and I end up outside for 30-40 mins, easily get almost 2 miles out of it
1-1.5 hours might be too much, make sure to get sunblock cause no shit that will burn you

refeeds are necessary on PSMF? I don't feel hungry and I'd probably end up binging if I do refeed, can I just continue without?

>>41618922
yeah i got a mild tank top sunburn today...
i just really want abs and not being able to do intense cardio is killing me. thats how i got them in 2013; im seeing an ortho in the next few weeks about shoulder maybe i get back on the bike soon.

Alright, I've been moving out of my apartment and spent all day in hell so I'll field the questions from the previous thread now.

1. "Worst time to do this, Apple. Gyms are closed until Tuesday."

Weightloss and getting /fit/ is mostly diet. Eat fewer calories on days you can't gym. Go out for a run. No excuses.

2. "Can we still do the other contest too?"

Yes. The tournament bracket is not removing or replacing the old one, its just supplemental to it.

3. "Bro, what if people cheat?"

If there is that much concern over cheating then I will require all of you to give me scale pictures but christ alive, I feel like a lot of people are going to relent for no good reason. As to cheating as a whole... fucking why? Why cheat in an internet contest with no stakes? Are you all going to wait until the last possible second to weigh in just so you can undermine your competition? I don't understand why cheating is such a concern as the cheater is only being a piece of shit to themselves most of all.

4. "Did you come to a decision on weigh-ins?"

Yes. Weigh-ins will now be FRIDAY ONLY. I'm not extending the window until Sunday any longer for interest of the contest and tournament. You all have a week to prepare for it, there's not really a good reason to be late or not provide me with a reason as to why you can't make it. Maybe I'll make an exception, maybe not. Better be good.

This means the weigh-in window is now 06/02 0001 CST to 06/02 2359 CST. Please convert this for your local time and get the details to me within that span.

If there's any more questions, reply to me. I'll answer a few tonight and the rest later. Also if you guys want to ensure there's no cheating, give me a decent group consensus on the 'picture of the scale' debate and I will make a decision from there.

If I come off as harsh its because today has been a real piece of shit and I'm just about done with it. I apologize ahead of time.

>>41616554
good
Seeing a fat person's gut hanging below the waistline of their is unironically one of the most disgusting things I've seen in a persona that wasn't in a wheelchair

>>41618602
There is no such thing as a "regular" diet in the wild.

Animals eat whatever they can so they don't starve to death. It's very rare that predator species have a surplus of food as it usually balances itself out. See: Yellowstone's wolf and elk populations

We should be gearing ourselves towards optimizing our health and nutrition, not following the lead of humans 10000 years ago who didn't have the science to improve themselves.

>>41618566
>climate change
Oh, you're one of those people

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>>41616053

>>41618977
>Oh, you're one of those people

I'm not

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>350lbs
>been drinking 7-9 pints of beer a day for years on top of sodas and probably 1 to 3k calories in food
>tfw 40 days sober
My body feels so much better and less bloated. I just need to start actually running or something, but I feel so damn ashamed if I go out in public

>decide to try keto
>order some test strips online, two day shipping
>amazon completely shits the bed, now has no idea when they'll be delivered
>I'll already be in ketosis before those fuckers get it together

Been going for under a month and a half at this point, lost about 15 pounds which is not bad i guess. My starting weight was 267.

I thinking of trying keto for a while. I've seen it talked about here quite a bit and heard health and fitness nuts in great shape talk about it too and it's really convincing me to give it a shot. I doubt i can do it for an extended amount of time but i could do it for a few weeks just to see how well i works. My problem is, what the fuck do you even eat on keto? It seems like almost everything has carbs in it, only thing i can think of that i can eat regularly is just meat, which is fine i love meat, but fuck is there nothing else i can have?

What do you guys eat on a keto diet?

Any flipfriends here on keto? I keep getting weird looks when I order food and ask them to hold off on the rice.

Shits rough man

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>>41619020
hey , dont run yet
cut yer cals and walk
read op and good luck

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>>41619028
>What do you guys eat on a keto diet?
veg and meat or eggs
this soup looks keto ish

>>41617343
How do you prepare it? I like it fried, but adding cooking oil kinda ruins the point.

>>41619020
go out after sunset if it bothers you that much

>tfw just realized I need a new belt

The best progress is the progress you can feel, not just read off your scale or measuring tape.

Going to mexican restaurant on wednesday. Two questions:
- what are keto-friendly options? this is a standard mexican restaurant. I'm thinking one of the fajitas dishes.
- is guac ok?

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>>41619149
just bring a head of cabbage and use it to make wraps w the meats

NEW THREAD >>41619161

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>>41617092

>tfw lost over 60 pounds, but face looks exactly the same

It'll change eventually, r-right?

>>41619094
The key to good broccoli is to not overcook it to make it mush.

There's a short cooking period where it's still crunchy and thus delicious. Having it stir fried is a good way of eating broccoli.

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>>41616053
fat thread makers say anything over 300 is toooo much , thiis is fatfpobic and bad
soory for mistakes , fingers really fatt

>>41616496
>men taking steroids and doing absolutely nothing gain more muscle mass than those eating correctly and going to the gym regularly
https://youtu.be/Do5Zza_A2LA?t=3m25s

>>41619167
you got to do face exercises

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>>41619182

fat fucks