/fat/ "cardio bunnies will never be yours" edition

Top tier picture choice. Love the OC fat wojak.

>>41563852
I may not quite look like that anymore, but i sure do feel like him whenever i do cardio

>>41563852
yes is is funny as fuck

Are people over 100-110 kg even allowed on treadmills?

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>in the squat rack
>second week lifting so only doing lmao1p8
>chad and stacy walk up and ask me how many sets I have left
>"l-like 2"
>they fuck around on the smith machine until I'm done
>chad uses my new pr as warm up

>>41563867
I bet America has special heavy load treadmills.

I'm not gonna make it

>>41563887
You've made that choice

>>41563889
I fully realize

>>41563867

the weight limit of the treadmills in my gym is 110kg, but there's always that dude probably +160 that dgaf and use it anyway

>>41563867

I was like 110kg few months ago, I was running on max settings with is 20. I think its in the Km/h, and after 30sec the treadmill just stopped and I almost felt :D Maybe the motor just give up on me :D

>>41563867
We all wore out the treadmills in the gym when i was deployed. People were doing 4X4 with plate vests on and shit. Hell, i probably peaked at 120kg with all that shit on myself.

>>41563871
That's what you get for being a fag that squats. I got something over here for you to squat on you hellbound homo.

>>41563973
I would've had an autism attack if I saw people doing that. Hope they have arthritis now.

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Hi guys, couple questions!
Here are my stats : female, 165cm, 61,5 kg, estimating bf % at about 24%. I have been dieting (keto, IF 16:8, 1200 cal intake so approx 600 cal deficit) and working out at home everyday for approx an hour (20-25 mins hiit cardio + 30 min weight training + 20 min abs/bodyweight exercises). A low cost gym I can afford opens up close to home in 15 days, and I will join it. I want to go the long way and not only become fit, but become a bodybuilder by recreation. I like the muscular, strong physique rather than the cardio bunny appearance. Now I know it'll take me years to achieve that goal. I'm willing to put in the work.
My question is that simple : should I lose fat first ie keep at the regimen I've been doing, or should I focus on maintenance/bulk nutrition in order to put on muscle mass. I don't mind looking bulky with fat over muscle, I want to get strong. I want to know which is the safest road for an overweight person to reaching a muscular build (15 bf% at most in end goal, on a cut).
tldr : should an overweight person looking to make muscle gains cut, maintain, or bulk FIRST?

>>41563994
We all do

>>41563996
This probably isn't the best place to ask that. But if I had to guess either maintain or cut. You still have noob gainz to be made which you should be able to get while on a cut.

Just pick up a linear progression program and see it through to the end and then pick something up more bodybuilding oriented

>>41564019
technically I am a fatty, maybe relatively "closer" to a normal weight than others, but still very far from my end goal.
Thanks for the tip, I will stay on a moderate cut, probably 1500 cal so I can up my protein, and see how much bf% I lose on a linear progression program. Thanks for the tip, will research it thoroughly!

>>41563996
Just keep going the same route you are, anon, and you're going to make it.

>>41563996
Keep going on the diet until you join the gym, then do a clean bulk when you start hitting the heavier weights.

>>41563996
>female, 165cm, 61,5 kg, estimating bf % at about 24%

wtf you are not overweight this is a healthy BMI.

if you wanna get /fit/ start lifting. You have no need to cut.

According to BMI scale I am no longer "obese" and are classified as "overweight". Pretty gud feel imo.

Will ofc still keep cutting.

>>41564059
I'm now at 25.55 down from 35 since January. I've been working hard as fuck and have definitely lost a shit ton of muscle mass, but holy fuck do I feel great. I really want to see that "normal" BMI number.

How do I become a less picky eater?
I like some vegetables but not very many, Broccoli, Carrots and Cabbage are nice but that's pretty much where it ends.

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Was looking for beginner workouts for my first time going to the gym, is this any good?

>>41564097
https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/5-healthy-dips-to-power-up-your-veggies.html

make some low calorie dips and dip them.

>>41564097
learn how to season food

stop consuming sugar

>>41564108
do SS, it's simple and WILL make you stronger.

>>41564039
thanks very much for the support anon!

>>41564046
okay, thanks for the tip, I was suspecting I might need to clean bulk as I increase my weights.

>>41564049
I think the BMI is not an accurate representation of health, as it is only based on factors such as height or weight. I think bf% is more definite in terms of body composition, and thus general understanding of one's physical condition. Based on that aspect, I (24% bf) am on the lower range of what is considered healthy, even by american standards, and personally, I think I have felt the healthier in my life when I was at 17% body fat a couple years ago. So I am going by that feeling, rather than simply blindly aspiring for a number devoid of meaning to me. Thanks for your concern though, it's certain there is need to adress eating disorders, and body dysmorphia when under doubt it may affect somebody.

>>41564112
>>41564110
Thank you

>>41564120
I'm not quite sure what SS is.

Starting Strength?

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>>41564121
dont compare what in considered high bodyfat for men than for women.

Women should have higher bodyfat, you have boobs and hips and asses are bigger naturally. 24% bodyfat is completely healthy and almost in the fitness level.

>>41564108
Looks fucking stupid.

>Drop from 240lbs
>Now at a point where my stomach is flat with my chest
>Actually starting a bulk to gain muscle

We all gon make it brahs.

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Gender
>Male

Weight
>207

Height
>5' 7

Waist
>37in

Neck
>16in

Body Fat
>24%

Fat Mass
>50lbs

Lean Mass
>157lbs

Body Fat Category
>Acceptable

is this really acceptable fit?
is it?

>>41564148
She wants to be a bodybuilder, why the fuck would she want normal bf%?

>>41564132
Yes, find a copy of the book and read it. There isn't anything magical about the program, it's just a simple way to get stronger than you are now without having to learn 40 different exercises and spending 3 hours in the gym a day.

fat fucks

>>41564181
Okay thanks anon I'll give it a read.
>>41564185
No shit, we're here to lose it

>>41564185
i respect the fat guys in the gym all the time. I give them words of encouragement and even spot them sometimes. just to give them confidence to keep coming back. you gotta start somewhere.

the fat fucks are the ones that stay at home and refuse to change their ways.

>>41564194
>>41564207

how fucking new

>>41564194
>>41564207
N e w

>tfw have to lose another 200 pounds
sad desu. my body is going to look like absolute fucking shit but at least i'll be able to hide under layers. fuck.

>>41564213
>>41564215
I thought that was pretty obvious

>>41564185
Bless you, anon. We're all gonna lose 21 stone.

>>41564225
loose skin is better than being dead

>>41564240
>21 stone to lose
>300lbs
holy fuck

>>41564240
why are you carrying stones around anyways

>>41564179
No.

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>>41564252
>>41564261
Guys...

i've been bulking and binging for the past 4-5 months and started my cut yesterday on PSMF. Today I got compliments on how ive been hitting the gym by a guy I havent seen in a year and its making me reconsider cutting. This and the looks I get from girls when wearing tight shirts. I am probably 21-22 bodyfat but I look big. Fuck

>>41564285
Man I would have a fuckin hard time losing weight if I was a chef.

I know my weaknesses and there is no way I would have come this far if I was working in a kitchen every day. Good on him

>>41564311
>I'd rather look big and be 20% fat than be big with 10% and reconsider my cut at another time
ok fatass

5'9", started at 237 lb and currently down to 208 lb. Feeling the fittest I've ever felt, still with a while to go.
We're all gonna make it.

>>41564328
>>>I'd rather look big and be 20% fat than be big with 10% and reconsider my cut at another time
>ok fatass
man am I doing mental gymnastics to keep myself fat? Is my brain trying to trick me into feeding him something that isn't chicken breast?

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>>41564339
yes, but you smart, you got this

>>41564344
yes I just want to have veins like my dick is my entire body, my goal is to look like a walking dick

>>41564353
you should probably start adding on cardio for them vascularity gains

any good appetite supressants?

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>>41563996

Have you lost any significant weight?

If you did they maintenance for a while so you can build muscle.

If not cut them do a bulk when the gym opens.

>>41564372
stimulants
will power

>>41564365
im doing psmf and already train 6 days a week but does cardio alone make me have more veins? is there a way to create veins in your body? I saw this aunt of mine probably 40-50% bodyfat but you can see her veins popping out and shit, how do I achieve that level of vascularity?

>>41564372
black coffee
gum
brush your teeth

>>41564385
>is there a way to create veins in your body
yeah just make sure you eat pears within a half hour of cardio

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>>41564372
Sips!

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>ate like shit for the past three days
>now planning on doing a fast for the next few days to makeup for it

I'm going to hate myself during this

>>41564435
Pretty much the definition of yo-yoing. Just go back to a regular cutting diet.

>>41564435
>tfw fasted for a few days because no money
>ended up 2lbs heavier
water weight is weird

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Is there any hope for me? recently just got back into things after being off due to injury.

>>41564465

Did your injury force you to consume copious amounts of calories?

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>>41564470
No? While I've been injured I've been eating very little. Since I've spent most of my time in bed for the last month eating a lot would have been a bad choice.

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>>41564483
>>41564465
REALLY bad angle to take pics at + terrible job cropping makes you look HUGE.

>>41564465
Can you swim? You can lower your body fat by swimming in a short ammount of time, but it requires alot of effort compared to regular cardio or running.

You're supposed to break a fast after you work out right?

>>41564499
I wish I could but I live in a small country town and there isn't a pool anywhere nearby.

>>41564108
stronglifts (5x5) is my recommendation. take time to learn proper form, youll feel and look pathetic doing small weight focusing on form, but itll deffs pay off long run my man

>>41564179
yes.
is all you want to be "acceptable" though? (its okay if you do)

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>>41564465

>>41563867
I'm over 110kg, some of my gym's treadmills stop working when I try to run.

>>41564465
>>41564483
Yes, there is hope. Keep at it and see.

>>41564465
stats?

>>41564636
23, 175cm, 75kg.
lifts -
Bench: 48kg Shaky as fuck but was able to complete it.
Dead-lift: 40kg
OHP: 30kg
Squat: 0kg unable to do bar squats.

>>41564671
>75kg

You must be literally all fat, no muscle.

Is cycling good for a fatass?

>>41564671
>bench more than dead and squat

What the fug

>>41564179
No you are a fat shit. You are acceptable to normie shits that don't mind looking like a sack of shit. I was that size with more muscle mass and felt like a waste of life. Fix that shit.

>>41564535
Learning proper form on these compound lifts is a necessity anyway so yeah

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lost 16lbs so far.
We're all gonna make it brahs

Told some old man who gave me a lift yesterday I'd lost 10 stone. Not totally true, it's more like 8 stone, but felt good to have a random person be so amazed by my progress. Currently at 208lbs 5'9 manlet. Finished my new workout just now using 2x12kg dumb bells.

Tonight not sure what to do for veggies but having a vegetarian lasagna with me dad, think I'll do fried cabbage and/or broccoli.

>SW 328 on Feb 11th
>Weigh in tuesday 276.6
>Weigh in yesterday 275.2
>Weigh in today 276.6

This is after I had a fucking banging workout yesterday. I got 8k steps in at work, plus an hour and 15 minutes doing DL, Rows, and OHP

Fuck my body and fuck water weight. Also, fuck me for eating a reeses fast break yesterday. Haven't done that shit in ages. Calories were still under 1400, but I know that shit didn't help anything.

I better lose it back tomorrow for weigh in. Not eating til dinner today.

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

I CAN SEE MY DICK

I know this must be the saddest achievement ever but I swear I havent seen my dick since I was like 16 years old and I'm 32 now

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>>41565114
Weigh once a week if you do it every day you will drive yourself nuts. As you already have.

>>41564704
Pretty much anon.

>>41564757
Been inactive for many years due to depression, anxiety, illness and honestly laziness.
I can't squat with the bar at all, but I do squats while holding a 5kg plate.

How hard would it be to go from 248 lbs to 182 lbs in under a year? looking to go to the gym maybe 3-5 times a week if necessary.

>>41565158
>>41565114
don't weigh once a week.
if you can't handle doing it daily do it every 2 days.
doing it once a week runs the risk of fucking up and gaining weight and that will let you down and you'll give up

>>41564671
I'm assuming these are all 1 rep max and probably including the weight of the bar too?

>>41565194
320lb to 273lb this morning
lost almost 50lb eating at a 1000 calorie deficit lifting 3 days a week, P/P/L split from march 20th

>>41565194
There are 52 weeks in a year. Losing 1-2 pounds a week is effortless.

>>41565211
Yes, they are all my current one rep max (besides squats obviously) and yes, all weights include the 20kg olly bar.

>>41565196
if you stick to your deflect you won't gain

>>41565194
Easy. I went from 310 to 210 in a year and cheated a lot.

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>>41564518
>eating
>ever

I often will do workouts in the middle of a 24hr fast, with no issues.

>tfw down to 187 from 198 in two months, while still making strength(noob) gains

>>41565230
>cheated a lot.
why? how does it feel knowing you made progress but could have made even more if you didn't cave in and cheat?

>>41564518
>>41565252
get on my level, day 16 fasted. still lifting

>going to see friend tomorrow
>meeting early in the morning so won't have time for breakfast
>he demands to meet at burger king
>knows I'm trying to lose weight

I'm strong enough to resist but he's being a total cunt doing this.

>>41565255
>why?
Because it's fun?

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>>41564264
>>41564546
>>41564758

Thank you.
This is what i need.
Ill post more results later.

(this is more like a fat shame thread then anything but its highly effective. I love you /fit/)

>>41565263

what you gotta do when you break the fast? can you eat normally or you have to slowly start to eat like a newborn would?

does L-Carnitine or other "fat burners" actually work? i was 110kg 9 months ago and am currently 80kg and was 74kg at my lowest but have put on a fair ammount of muscle but i still have a highish body fat % and I can't seem to get it down at all no matter how hard I try to cut it barely changes and was wondering if it was worth trying

I reached my mini goal of 235. I lost 13 lbs I'm so happy (really my highest weight was nealy 260 but I was just going all out at the time and don't count it as a true starting weight). IF is so great, you shouldn't even be allowed to post in /fat/ if you're not intelligent fasting.

>>41565321
im just gunna eat some fucking chicken. my stomach is metal

I got myself some Alpha Men multivitamin.

Are they too strong?
>1000% vitaminB

>>41565132
Congratulations man I'm proud of you. These anons don't understand what it's like to achieve something after many many years

>>41565255
Because I have a social life and my goal is to become a functional human being, not develop an eating disorder. I have no qualms about going out to eat and enjoying life bro. If you can't enjoy life why even lose the weight to begin with?

If you can't fit in fun and manage your weight there is no point.

>6'3 Male 147kg
I live in fuckall nowhere Virginia.
Just fucking kill me already. Where to start?

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>>41565482

Go walk around in the country, ride your bike, go hiking in the woods and just cut back eating (read the sticky for /fat/) stick to it and year or 2 later done.

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Hey there guys, first time posting, even though I've been here a while.
19 yrs, 74 kg down from 77, looking to shred down to 70 before week 26. Currently on 1700 kcal/day with 250 g. protein, 70 g carbs and 40 g. fat.

I am weightlifting doing a upper/lowerbody schedule and will soon hop on some ECA alike stack. Will I make it?

>mega focused on weight loss
>weighing myself every day
>very slow progress
>get bored
>forget about weight loss
>check the scale if and when I remember
>lost a tonne of weight
>get focused again
>repeat

wish it wasn't like this, it's exhausting

>>41565114
Sounds like your scale might be fucking up. Mine will occasionally give me the same weight twice in a row if it hasn't fluctuated much.

>>41565505
for most people on here (if the pic is you) you have made it *perspective*

>>41563836

>>41565273
Burger King is fucking disgusting. One of the last things I ate before I started my diet was a Whopper with bacon. I got about 3 bites in before I had the urge to vomit. That shit is 10x more disgusting than McDonalds.

Also your friend sounds like he's jealous and/or doesn't want to see you improve yourself for some reason.

>>41565520
I meant will I make the cut down to 70 kg on 1700 kcal on ECA before week 26??

>>41565114
It all depends on alot of things for minor fluctuations like that you have probably lost fat but the weight will be the shit in your bowel and water weight and alot of other factors that cause your weight to fluctuate just stick with it senpai

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cw= current weight 274
sw= start weight 288
gw= goal weight 150

>>41565273
ok, so burger king has this thing called your way, order whatever burger you want. no fries, and water. and ask for two extra lettuce leaves on the side, toss the buns and wrap that shit.

>>41565482
Whereabouts in VA? I've lived in a few places there.

>>41565650
But bread has very little detrimental effects and lettuce is a meme it has basically 0 nutritional value it is mostly water better off just not eating at bk at all and just eating later

>>41565273
Check out the nutritional values and play around with that you can and can't get away with. 9 pc Chicken fries is like 150 calories

>>41565710
or just don't eat at fucking bk have some self control eat your own food at home later or eat before you go out don't touch the shit

>>41565673
i was thinking more along the lines of carbs, not cal.

>>41565710
Oh kek. This is why I'm never gonna make it. You can get a kid's meal oatmeal too

>>41565725
But carbs aren't bad if you use them before they are converted to sugar and then fat which the carbs from a bun is nothing

>>41565739
sorry, im on a keto diet so carbs are satan

>>41565722
Whether I eat at home or eat there, it's still the same amount of calories I'm consuming

>>41565114
>falling for the scale meme

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>>41565739
>use carbs before converted to sugar
what?

this general is quite old now
where are the success stories?

>>41565855
There are a shit load of people posting their progress every day man.

And it's not THAT old. Successful weightloss + aesthetic/strength gain takes well over a year for most fatasses.

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Guys how do I deal with my feeder girlfriend?
I am 400lbs overweight. She is 240lbs so not as fat but she says she has to be able to walk (which I barely can) because she needs to feed me when my legs collapse.

I love her but she admits fully that she is intentionally feeding me to death because she finds it arousing. When she found me working out last week (and I say 'working out' I was actually just lifting up my hip folds, then slamming them into my hips, like a fatty version of the excersie you can do with a medicine ball) she took the ball and made me eat 4 plates of meatballs as 'ironic punishment'.

In fact she loves ironic punishment.If I accidentally wet the bed she makes me a cake then pours chicken stock over it as a ironic punishment and I have to eat it (she calls it a 'bed wetter cake'). If I drop a bowl of ice cream she makes me eat frozen carpet.

I am going to die because I cannot stop her

Just started counting calories after calculating my macro's etc....this fucking bowl of cereal is 610 calories. Honestly I thought it would be like 300ish. This is why I'm fat....Luckily I need 3400 a day on my cut so its a drop in the bucket.

>>41565985
Leave her now

>>41565985
stop posting this in every thread.

>>41565985
This copy/pasta is already getting stale.

>>41565985
what else does she do to you?
details please

>>41564097
eat raw garlic until you forget what chocolate tastes like. then, black coffee will be your chocolate

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Don't eat tomorrow

>>41565986
What's your height and weight?

>>41564333
Nice anon. Care to shar how you did it? I'm 5'11 and started with 235 down tp 231 as of this morning.

>>41566027
go Fung urself

>>41566043
6'2" 335

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>>41565986
F I B E R O N E
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>>41566068
I'll look into that, I just have cornflakes which I know are bland. 2 cups and 3 cups of milk. Granted I wasn't trying to cut I just wanted to measure what an average day of cereal was for me to really see how out of my mind I was in terms of calorie guessing. And as it turns out I was way off lol.

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>>41565114
Chill and stop taking it personally. I weigh daily, but only record at the end of the week. People say not to weigh daily, but I think it helps you get to know how variable your weight is throughout the day and in so doing care less about your weigh-in and more about your trend. I also noticed that when I tried to only weigh on Sundays I would consider doing stupid shit like dehydrating myself just to get the lowest number possible.

You should really work on divorcing your ego from the process of weight-loss.

>>41566068
Just did some shopping Tesco's didn't have it at all, ended up getting Weetabix Bran Cereal, hopefully it's okay

>>41566097
I was recommended to eat Bran cereal (Fiber one if possible) with berries and other types of fruit along with some Cottage cheese / Greek style yogurt.

>>41564121
This reply was fantastic.
>Y-y-You're not fat female anon
You reply sounding almost extra bitch levels. Way to show Mr nice guy!

>>41566097
>2 cups of cereal and 3 cups of milk
Are you trying to leave humanity behind?

>>41566064
3400 calories is not a cut

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>>41565855
>192cm
>lose 30kg in four months
>crush gets flirty
>end up with her

Felt nice

But then
>lose her for some bullshit reason 2 weeks later

>>41566148
What was the bs reason?

>>41566148
33lbs in 4 months, nice dude. SW/CW/GW?

My thighs are already really big but it seems like most routines recommend squats every session. What's a good alternative that lets me avoid huge thighs?

Ate until I felt sick today. 3000 calories. Please scold me.

>>41566207
Do your fucking squats. Nothing makes you stronger

>>41566209
I'm not mad, just disappointed.

>>41566207
Stop being dumb and do squats. They'll sculpt your thighs so they're big in the good way.

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>>41566168
That's kg, it is 66pounds.

Started at ~130kg, now down to 94, goal is around 87-90 but i havent lost shit since the ex incident.

>>41566167
Believed her beta orbiters that she cheated on me, so i just sperged out beyond belief.
But she didnt and they just wanted to bang her.

Just had lunch and starting my 5 hour water fast

wish me luck

>>41563996
gain muscles, the cut will be easier. Eventually do recomp. I wouldn't recommend straight up cutting since you're not even that overweight.

>>41566220
>>41566237

It's starting to become uncomfortable though.

>>41566253
might want to slow down that loss rate man. Shit aint sustainable or good for you.

each day
cardio after waking
clean water
meditate
eat 6 fistfulls of leafy greens grow them your self
eat no milk cheese meat and egg
slow focused bodyweight exercises with reps and isometric holds
filter your air
sleep

stop self harming and will heal the planet. As above so below as with in as without. we are 1

cw: 248 lbs
gw: 182 lbs

What's the shortest time frame I could do this in without hurting myself?

>>41566384
22 weeks if you never cheat. I'd aim for 26 weeks though.

anyone been in the 500lbs club here?

>>41566405
jesus christ, no

>want to drink beer
>don't want to get fat
>on a 1500 calorie diet

wut do?

I'm eating two meals a day for 700~ calories each.. There's no room to squeeze in beer..

This is why I smoke weed, no calories involved.

>>41566432
Stop smoking weed and don't drink beer?
come on man, if you want to make it you need to make sacrifices.

>>41566140
lol idk man that was normal my entire life, I've been lifting 6 days a week with cardio since jan and never missed a day yet so I really want to clean my diet up to make a good change.

>>41565114
Dude, in the morning I weigh 186 but by the end of the day I bulk up to around 192-194, then repeat.

Don't know if my scale is fucked but it's pretty consistent with my weight measurements. Don't get too worked up about it.

>>41566432
Drink once a week you weak fat faggot.

>>41566453
what harm is the weed doing in this scenario?

>>41566463
I do.. But, that doesn't help me when I want to drink otherwise

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>>41566147
well I used a bmr calculator which put me at 2909.25 cals, and used that Harris Benedict Formula and set it to sedentary even though I lift and cardio 6 days a week. Using the right one it wants me to eat 4500 cals to maintain, and for a cut take 500 off. Instead I'm using the sedentary formula which put me at 3500 cals, which is 1000 calories less than I need to maintain.

Honestly I'm new at this so I'm not even sure. I do PHUL 4x a week and HIIT cardio 2x a week since january and I'm 6'2" and 335lbs. Am I wrong about the bmr calculator? Should I be drastically cutting way more than the 1000 calories from the 4500 I need to maintain?

>>41566500
No calculator would out you at 4500 what the fuck.
You want to eat 2500 calories to start losing weight. Then lower that later on.

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>>41565273
>haven't eaten burger king in years
>co-worker has friend bring him some on a shift
>eat one fry
>mfw

god damn that shit's disgusting. oversalted to fuck

>>41564435
Really stupid, stop binging and fasting, you need to develop a healthy relationship with food. Good luck

>>41566500
Eat 3000 calories AT THE MOST. You can probably get by on 2500, and pushing it would be 2000. That's pretty much a suicide cut for someone your size, but fuck it - get down to a healthy weight before worrying about muscle mass.

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>>41565623
good start bro

I don't know what cutting is

>>41566455
So how much have you lost over the last five months? Anything less than 30 lbs (much more if you're real big) means you're fucking up.

>>41566500
It's simple. Calculate your TDEE using sedentary. Then subtract 500-1000 calories from there depending on how fast you want to lose.

Whatever the fuck you did makes no sense at all.

>>41565196
Weigh in twice a month, you are guaranteed to hit a new low every single time, and you won't obsess over the fucking number every day like some girl with an eating disorder.

Can I drink Coca Cola Zero during water fasting? I need something sweet and it has zero calories so it should be okay, right?

>>41565650
Either way a burger wrapped in lettuce is healthier than a burger wrapped in a bun. Unless you're in desperate need of some carbs

>>41566500
Your TDEE is around 3,000 calories. This means you should eat around 2,000-2,500 if you want to lose weight. Eating 3,400 calories will make you gain weight.

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>>41566359
way out brah , don't forget the green tea

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>>41566384
life is suffering , there is no way to not hurt yourself

does anybody else think "this is too easy"?

feel like my momentum is a bubble that's going to burst at any moment
everyone says losing weight is hard, but I'm not finding it hard, so either I'm doing something wrong or it's going to become harder

probably just overthinking again

>>41566673
That's my secret to staying fit, literally. They recently came out with Cherry Coke Zero and it's the best.

>>41566729
So it's okay to drink coke zero during a water fast?

I went for a cycle. About half an hour, five miles. Thing is, my app is telling me that I burned 285 calories doing it. That seems really high. Is cycling legitimately that good?

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>>41566724
Looking back nothing is that hard but in the moment (which is when most people complain) It feels like hell. I feel kind of the same as you though. I have headaches all day (mild) from not stuffing my face but when there's a will there is a way

>>41566551
>>41566592
>>41566650

yea I just checked a few more cals and this is what I'm getting

Your BMR Is: 2567
Your TDEE Is: 3666

the TDEE is with all the exercise and cardio I'm doing, so like you guys are saying should I just start at 3k cals and adjust from there after a couple weeks?
>>41566632
In December I was 380lbs, Currently I'm 335 and I started working out at the end of January. My diet has been garbage the entire time but I just moved so I really want to take it to the next level and eat proper to get the most out of my gym work.

>>41563871
I'm a skelly and can't do 1pl8, stop comparing your self to others and just get stronger bitch.

If I need to drink (or rather, really want to drink), should I drink whisky instead of beer?

How many days should I water fast if I want to lose 10kg?

Current stats: 77kg, 178cm tall

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Its better than it was last time i checked lol

>>41565295
Fuck off you fat fuck. Go outside and run until you collapse.

>>41565194
I've gone from 302 to about 230 since the start of this year, with a reasonable diet. You can do it dude.

>>41566760
It's smartest to set your activity level to sedentary when you're on a cut. Even if you exercise regularly. If I were you I would not go over 2,500 calories. That's honestly a pretty good amount of food. Especially if you include a lot of vegetables in your diet and stick to drinking only water.

>>41566604
is he natty?

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>>41566793
nice job, senpai.

>tfw under 30% bf for first time since i was 14

>>41563967
>110kg
>running 4:48 min/mile
There is no way this is true. Even at 5k this is world class pace.

>>41566791
you posted in wrong thread didnt you? dont worry it happens to all of us sometimes :)

>>41566432
V O D K A
O
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K
A

>fucking nibbled on brothers leftover burger king meal
fuck me jesus fucking christ, i was doing really fucking well this week too. 1800 instead of 1600. guess i'll just have to eat 1300-1400 tomorrow to make up for it
but i still feel like shit goddamn it

>>41566753
Never trust "burnt calorie" estimates, and don't eat back those calories you've "burned".

>>41566917
I'm not going to change how much I'm eating. Just curious on how good cycling is really.

>>41566791
Stop doing meme bullshit like a middle-aged woman

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>Bought cheese omelette for pickup
>get home
>this is inside too

what do I do

so I just throw it away

god help me I want to eat it so bad bros

>lost 26.5 lbs, still fat fuck
> but i noticed today some mirin
>be me, fat fuck, 233 pounds
>overall good looking, have gf for 4 years, rly qt 3.14 grill
>had pull day, fuckin bumped biceps
>realised i have to cook something after gym,
>so maybe i should buy the ingredients in the shop
>but i went by bycicle and in gym clothes
>who gives a shit, im hungry
>bought shit ton of healthy food
>7/10 grill after me in the line started mirin hard
>i looked at her, she smiled back
>wtf G R A N D A U T I S M O hits me, turn around said no word
> i cooked the chicken breast, then i got a message from classmate grills, they wanted to drink caffee
>sure,whynot.jpg
>i arrived, they started mirin my bicep, had chitchat about college and other stuff
>they behaved girlish, one of them touched my arm at least 3 times
>feelsogoodman.avi
> G R A N D A U T I S M O crack in
>came home
>pump up my dick, masturbate to the girl who touched me
>imagine threesome with qt grill from shop and with classmate
>best fap ever
this is my story
do you have same fat mirin stories anons?

>>41566947
Just throw it away you weak-willed faggot

I binge ate chinese food and pizza yesterday. fucking hate myself.

>>41566947
nigga just throw it away before you have the chance to think about it

>>41566753
I think a good ballpark for cardio is 100 calories per 10 minutes. You may have burned a bit less since your pace was 10 mph. If you get a heart rate monitor and link it to your app, you will probably have a more accurate analysis but those are expensive. Do you use Strava? I feel it grossly overestimates calories burned when I run.

>>41564250
start saving money 2 get it cut

>>41566975
>>41567001
I put it in the fridge

I'm hoping when my roomie comes home she'll eat it and I can watch and satiate myself that way

>>41565252
>>41565263
whats a good plan to try for fasting. Im currently doing 18:6 If but i want to do a full day. Do i just eat at like 10am and then not eat again until 10am the next day?

>>41567034
I'm not generally one to call someone on this site a cuck

but you are literally cucking yourself with food

>>41567052
I'm poor. I can't stand throwing food away like that. At least she can eat it.

I watched my friend eat a pastry three days ago and it fixed my craving. Whatever works, man.

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I almost ate my maintenance today. why even live?

>>41566253
WHAT A SHOCKER A WOMAN BECOMES A GAINS GOBLIN

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>>41566432
guinness is the least awful beer choice if you want something that doesn't taste like piss

>>41566739
No. No artificial sweeteners.

>>41567082
>I almost ate my maintenance today.
>almost

So you're just losing less weight than usual? That's really not a big deal unless it happens several times a week. Then you're basically just stagnant.

On the rare occasion that I decide I can allow a "cheat" day I just eat within 100 calories of maintenance.

>>41567205
Now Im one day further from being a skeletor

>>41567082
My diet for the past few months has been eating at maintenance

:( I just...

>>41567255
>just remember that in the end, it’s about purses, passionfruit, protons and calvin coolidge
timw for skeletor soon

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Good luck, fattos

>>41564372
food has always worked for me

>>41565273
Get the oatmeal.

>>41565855
Success stories get posted every day. But as insecure fat-minded people, rarely do we post pics.

>>41567402
kinda gay famalam

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>>41567318

>>41564432
Can anyone give me a quick rundown on this meme?

>>41565194
Did 330 to 190 in slightly less than half a year. It is definitely possible but goddamnit I would not recommend it to anyone, ever. I needed apprixmately 95% of my willpower to lose that weight.

>>41566476
munchies?

>>41567559
when I finally settle down to smoke weed and/or drink beer, I'm done eating for the day.

I have breakfast at work, dinner as soon as I get off work, then I just smoke/drink the rest of the day

>>41566664
I love weighing in daily I can't help it. Only because I have a digital scale though.

>>41567543
>guy spams "tfw first sip of the day" everyday for a year
>people start buying sips

Basically it desu

>>41567547
how the fuck? teach me bruh

>>41567575
Lots of starving I'm sure.

>>41567547
I'm guessing you look like fucking shit, right?

glad you're healthy, but that aint the way to do it man

what if I ate 500g of tomatoes about every day? tomatoes have really low calories and they could fill my stomach

>>41567543
>Rothschilds bow to Sips
>Sips in contact with aliens
>Possess psychic-like abilities
>Control World with an iron but fair fist
>Direct descendant of the ancient royal blood beverage
>Will bankroll the first cities on Mars (Sips City will be be the first civilization)
>Own 99% of DNA editing research facilities on Earth
>First designer energy brew will in all likelihood be Sips
>Ancient Indian scriptures tell of one beverage who will descend upon Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with it
-You likely have Sips inside you right now

>>41567575
The short version is keto with about 1000-1200kcal a day and about 90min of medium-ish intensity cardio every single fucking day without ever cheating.

>>41567590
Surprisingly I looked fine, no loose skin or anything. I've read that that's due to keto/swimming so I can definitely recommend that.
I ended up being a fucking twig though. Gained back around 30 lbs over the course of the last one or two years though after maintaining that initial weight for a while, so now I'm actually doing some lifting without the crazy weight loss.

Can I lose 30 pounds in 3 months

>>41567628
Depends on how fat you are but it's definitely doable.

>>41567628
Possibly. Depends on your gender, height and weight

>>41567074
Good. Never throw away food.

>>41567628
I lost about 30 pounds in about 4 months. Was around 215 now I'm down to 186.

All I did was diet/fast and go outside more. Dropped the weight and now am working on losing more while trying to gain some muscle mass.

>>41567628

Strict 1250 calorie deficit and you can.

Don't recommend it though

>>41567605
It's fine unless you have latent asthma or acid reflux.

>>41567605
you'll turn red

>>41567628
Easily.

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Ramadan in two days gonna have to follow the fasting method to lose weight now but I'll lose all the Stamina I built up.

>>41567641
>>41567642
I'm 190lbs and 5'8"

>>41567707
You're fat enough, I guess it's possible if you make sure to keep at it.

>>41567569
>then I just smoke/drink the rest of the day
Have you considered that getting high is increasing your craving for beer, if only through basic association?

>>41567605
You'll be sick of tomatoes by day 4.

>>41567695
least you have a good excuse and obligation to do IF.

>>41567695
>being muslim

go uncut your dick and eat some bacon and then we'll talk

>>41567695
Salam alaikum, brother/sister

what do you mean by losing the stamina ?

>>41567731
No, most days I don't drink at all.. I'd just like to be able to without being calorie conscious is all.

>>41567739
But that's haram

>>41567754
Been running the track for the past 2 months and have been increasing each day so I feel like I'll lose that progress once I start fasting.

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>lose weight faster than expected
>not sure why
>use cronometer to see how much I have been eating lately
>turns out that I'm 800 calories under my TDEE
>happy af because i'm always full

definitely going to make it.

>>41567774
Run after you eat at night dude

>>41567695
Don't blow me up motherfucker.

>>41567774

definitely run after Taraweeh.

>>41567792
Guess I could do that

>>41567829
I'll have to start using a treadmill cause I'm not gonna run on the track at midnight

>to lose 1.5lbs a week I have to eat at 1750 calories
FUCKING KILL ME

>>41567937
That's nothing dude

>>41567937
that's... a normal amount of calories?

>>41567952
>>41567948
Do you guys lift or work at all?

>>41567937
You'll be fine nigga, just plan and take care of yourself. take comfort in the laws of thermodynamics

>>41567707
I'm 150 at 5'9 and I'm just starting to get ab definition.

30lbs is a lot since you're getting near the bottom of what you should be losing. Definitely give it a try, but make sure to lift weights to avoid turning skinny fat, because thats what other 150 5'9 males look like if they dont lift.

Good luck brother. I started at 230.

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How do you deal with loose skin during sex? I just feel really self conscious and end up being on bottom most of the time, feels bad

>>41568049
Not him but If I start lifting some dumbbells each day will it be enough? Currently 187lbs and starting weights was 198lbs. I really don't have much upper body strength.

>>41568084
By not having sex

:(

>>41568084
If you're getting sex chances are they won't care that much.

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>>41563836

Went from 205lb to 162lb so far. Lost 20 between Nov 2016-Mar 2017 from deciding to permanently change my diet for both health and monthly food cost reasons. My basic rule is that if I didn't cook it, I don't eat it. (Most of what "it" is is veggies, fruit, brown rice, homemade wheat bread, chicken, almond milk, nuts, whey protein shakes, etc.) Surprisingly I crave food way less now, too. I guess processed shit really is addicting like they say.

Started doing a lot of cardio (mostly walking), some dumbell weight lifting, and doing exercises with exercise bands sometime in March, so weight loss is going a lot faster in conjunction with the eating changes.

This is pretty much the first time ever that I've ever gotten into weight loss without feeling like I'll inevitably relapse into gaining weight due to missing the shit out of garbage food. Now I can actually say no to that shit without a second thought.

tl;dr, my only real advice is exercise goes from being a chore to addicting once you get used to it, and if the food you're eating to get fit is tasteless and makes you feel unsatisfied eating it, you're making it wrong/haven't found out what healthy foods/dishes you actually enjoy yet.

Most importantly, get it in your head that your diet change isn't just going to be a temporary thing until you lose the weight, it's going to be the kind of stuff you'll be eating from now on for the rest of your life. Yeah that tub of ice cream might make you happy for like 10 minutes, but make you miserable from the fat it puts on you for the rest of your life if you keep eating it.

Don't give up, bros.

>>41563871
i took me around a month or 2 to get to 1p8 Lmao

t. former skelly

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>>41563996
>do maintanance TDEE for your ideal weight
>focus more on cardio than weights until you reach your goal weight
>otherwise you'll be out of breath with 2 reps of DL but feel absolutely no muscle burn
>cardiovascular fitness is a prerequisite to weights

I highly suggest you to stop keto, not because I think it's a bad weight loss diet but because keto does NOT teach you to make healthy food choices and estimate good portion sizes.

Keto is a quick fix, not a long-term solution.

It's not maintainable long-term if you don't have epilepsy.

Example: you're 75kg but would like to be 45kg, maintenance TDEE would be around 1200kcal depending on your activity.

>>41564179
How are you 24% at207? Im same height and bf and im 160

>>41567045
I mix IF(basically just skipping breakfast when I feel like it) and do a 24 hour fast once a week. Its all personal preference and your starting weight.

Once 24 hour fasts get easy, do a 3 day fast once a month and graduate to longer after that if you so wish.

>>41568139
So you have literally 0 muscle?
I was 24% bf at 5'10 228lbs. Hydrostatic tested.

Can anything be done about stretch marks? Will they fade when you get skinny or just hang around forever?

i just downloaded my fitness pal, the app, and entered what I had today. apparently I had 95 calories more than I should have and the app said if I kept on like this I would lose 4kg in 5 weeks...that doesn't make any sense.

also, I am 1,92m and weigh 132kg - and the app says my calorie-intake should be 2.010 a day. With my height and weight it should be far more, shouldn't it?

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>lost some weight I was struggling with losing
>Feel good for a week
>tfw gained it back
Shiiiit. I need to start re-evaluating my diet.

>>41568049
im 5'9 and i was shooting for 170ish. do I really need to get to 150 lbs? fuck. take a picture of your torso I want to see what it will look like at 150.
>>41568177
hmm ok. Im thinking I wont eat again until tomorrow at 1pm. see what happens.

>>41567937
I would kill to eat at 1700 calories and still lose weight

>>41568186
The redness mostly fades but they're there forever my friend.

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What's your motivation currently to lose weight /fat/? I have to attend a wedding in August and i really don't want to be a fat fuck then.

>>41568177
How do you get past the hunger and headaches? Does it eventually normalize itself?

>>41568222
I'm curious to see if anyone here who's lost a shit ton of weight can show me their stretch marks.

>>41568193
That's probably to lose 2lbs a week. Did you check the settings?
If you ate at 2000 you'd lose weight.

>>41568235
I want to wear cute clothes, really. Fatties can't fit in Japanese dresses

>>41568235
want to know what it feels like to live a normal life and not be a fucking attraction everywhere i go

>>41568235
I want to gain more self-respect by turning myself into something worth respecting.

>>41568251
Hey, similar, I put on a crop top when it was 95 out and didn't like my little belly bulge

>>41568186
I'm 32 and have very faint stretch marks on my biceps from when I got swole as a teenager. Of course they were red, raised, and nasty back then. They're hard to see unless you're looking for them, not very raised and match the color of my skin (though I'm a pasty fuck and I don't know what they'd look like if I had a tan). So mine are a good 14 years old. Are they gone, no. Are they visible, nah, not really.

That said, if you have those really deep, craggy, nasty fucking nearly gore-tier hideous stretch marks some landwhales get, shit, I dunno if even a decade helps that stuff. The kind that have folds in them, you know? Probably fucked at that point.

>>41566405
I sure hope not

>>41566780
Yes

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>6 days into Keto and I already cave and have a spoonful of ice cream
Kill me

>>41567616
jej'd

getting skeptic of calorie info
too many times I think "this tastes so nice, there's no way it's only x calories"
kinda feels like cheating, or I'm doing something wrong

>>41567695
kys
preferably without taking a bunch of people with you

>>41568250
oh, you're right, I put 1kg a week as weight loss goal, so that's why it says that. sorry, my bad! and thank you!

>>41568458
It's legit no worries.

>>41568235
Going to America in July
there will be pools there

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>>41566419
>>41568415
just checking if there are any other half ton club anons here, my highest recorded was around the 550 mark and I'm 315 now. curious how the journey's been for others.

I'm at 193. Lowest I can remember in almost 10+ years. I really want to eat some chips and guac or a burger to celebrate but food scares me. Forever gonna be fat yo.

>>41568458
>>41568471
>this tastes so nice, there's no way it's only x calories
same here brother. Sometimes I put just a dash of cinnamon in my protein shakes, and it feels so wrong how flavourful and pleasurable it is for the low caloric value.

>>41568610
Doing well nigga. I'm proud of you. Keep at it and soon you'll make it

New thread

>>41568886
>>41568886
>>41568886

>>41566780
booze is booze, but straight liquor generally does the job faster with less calorie bloat, so whiskey.

>>41567984
Lifting or working isn't a good excuse for eating mass amounts of calories. Especially since he's in /fat/ and wants to lose weight it's safe to say he isn't a fucking bodybuilder.

So what's your point dumbass?

>>41568458
I didn't realize how good a lot of stuff really tastes until I started dieting. I ate whatever I want and however much I wanted for so long that I couldn't appreciate anything. So it's completely normal to feel that way about stuff.

>>41565501
I don't know how to feel about this watermelon