/fraud/

even when cut down with pg, anhydrous alcohol has a real chili like burn to it, should have added a bit of water ree

since my source has some nice discounts at the moment.
whats best for bulking
test only
test + bolde
test + deca
test + deca + bolde

should be economical too planing on around 1g per week

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I miss playing warhammer and eating junk with my fat friends

>>41540105
Will I lose all my gains if I come off test-e 500/week Im on week 6/8 help kek

>>41540237
Depends on Natty test and how many gains you've made. If you've made gains within the realm of your natty limit, then probably not much

>>41540237
You'll need a full pct

>>41540220
Any of the last 3

>https://www.reddit.com/r/bodybuilding/comments/5brps1/10yrs_gone_in_3_months_cancer_is_a_cunt/
>blast and cruise for x years
>get untreatable cancer and die

you would be much better off with body dysmorphia sessions... even some teenage girls are more mentally stable than you

it is super sad really

>>41540345
got some nolva and adex just in case

>>41540390
>live in a mediocre body for years
>get untreatable cancer and die anyway

>>41540390
>hasnt posted in 4 months
https://www.reddit.com/user/Ibeatmario

ree

whats the smallest needles I can use for 100mg test?

>>41540554
Ive pinned with 29g, but its slowed and needs to be warmed up.

27g works well for me at room temp in a 2.5ml syringe (1ml is more difficult, requires more force on the plunger for some reason).

>blow my nose
>get the daily nose bleed
nice

>woke up to giant ass angry text from girl in >>41537203
women who get rejected are so not used to it it always makes them retarded smH

>>41540411
his type of cancer is actually pretty common amongst people who abuse AAS

jesus will not protect you from this poison you are injecting into your body

You can't justify steroid use, just admit it... most of you do it because of deep rooted insecurities.

A good session at a therapist would help you much more than injecting this shit into your body and risking your life just to appease others.

>>41541020
I'm not going to live my life trying to avoid cancer. Everything causes cancer.

>>41541034
Literally everybody here admits this. Have you ever been to a /fraud/ thread?

>>41541047
>>41541056
If you don't reply to nonsense, they'll stop posting. Maybe even they'll cancel the general. We aren't that lucky I do not reckon.

>>41541047
that is a bad argument and you know it

There is enough evidence to prove that going vegan and avoiding anabolic steroids can make you healthier and prolong your life.

Not to mention that going past your "natty limit" is never adding more to your life than it takes.

>>41541034
you can't justify not using steroids when there are no non-treatable sides when used in moderation
unless you're a poorfag... sorry

>>41541080
implying I want to live to be old, get dementia/alzheimers, shit myself and force my family to either take care of me or dispose of me in a nursing home

>>41541083
ahahah even you admit you have to use it in moderation... the problem is that using it at moderation is going to give you absolutely nothing

>>41541080
>There is enough evidence to prove that going vegan and avoiding anabolic steroids can make you healthier and prolong your life.

Won't make me happy though.

>>41541099
People who say they don't want to live longer don't live life worth living at the moment anyway... just end it right now if that is the case. I will have a lot of things to do when I am old... just because they are nonfunctioning old people does not mean you have to end up like one.

Just stop with the shitty arguments and get to a psychologist and stop thinking you are above it

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>the problem is that using it at moderation is going to give you absolutely nothing

>>41541111
Except vegans are statistically happier than meat eaters and taking care of your health can be as satisfying if not more than taking steroids to compensate for your perceived lack of value in society.

>>41541117
Really he should just pay you. You seem like a great pop psychologist.

>>41541131
>[citation needed]

Vegans get joy out of their decision to be vegan based on what they value. I get joy out of my decision to use AAS because it's what I value. Being vegan doesn't simply make you inherently happier.

>>41541162
This is a reasonable argument. Remember this when you condemn the actions of others.

>>41541225
Huh? What are you talking about retard?

Testosterone only is relatively cancer free. You act like every who roids gets cancer lmfao no.

>>41541230
You are thick. Different individuals value different things, creating different levels of happiness and satisfaction. For a Christian you have a peculiar habit of condemning others, while being extremely defensive. Now for instance.

Reconsider these behaviors in the future.

Also I have low T and I'm 24. I'm not. I'm just Not you g to go through life like this you faggot bitch. On top of that I'm already a Manlet 5'7 so I just Cannot be fucked with Jack g low T too. Go fuck yourself. Plenty of roid users are still alive just don't abuse it hardcore and you'll be fine. Especially if all you do is blast a s cruise o test.

>>41541265
shut your fuck hole

>>41541265
Mate this topic is about cancer and steroids you eclectic fuckwit.

>>41541265
Back to r*eddit you go

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>>41541131
Get this hothead out of here

Does anadrol lower blood sugar after working out even lightly?

>>41541080
>long miserable life with no delicious meats and gains

Nah im good thanks

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How bad has your PIP been, /fit/? I'm literally limping, couldn't sleep tonight because it felt like I had been kicked in the side of my butt

>>41541472
I can't pin vgs anymore, not 100% sure why but I think it's scar tissue. had over 20 weeks of flawless injections but now the sites feel wrong.

I have to switch to glutes but idk, I can't feel the muscle when I poke around in the right area (upper outer quadrant) so it doesn't feel right

>>41541472
pip in quad wrecked me for 2 days. Tried to pin my other quad today but kept getting a ton of pain once the needle was about 3/4 of the way deep.

Just said fuck it and pinned my glute.

Does it make sense to do a "refeed" while on dnp?
Im on dnp since 15 days now (8 days 250mg Crystal and 7 days 500mg crystal) so far.. I'm down from 91kg to 87,8kg but my weight doesn't change since 3 days even tho Im way below my maintenance (1000 calorie deficit)

I thought about doing a carb refeed with food that isn't loaded with salt like pasta, ice cream, sugary shit... Not running low carb or anything but still think this could help to fire it up a bit.

Not looking for a way to cheat, if you guys tell me it's dumb and I should continue running like I did, I will do this for the next 6 days...

>>41541472
Tfw subq master race

Anyone else watch ASMR to feel cosy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__GhrWO_mg4&t=750s

Comfy feels and good to fall asleep to.

>>41541513
I don't think refeeds are necessary on DNP, not that I've heard of anyway.

>>41541513
nah just keep going

>>41541131
>vegans are statistically happier than meat eaters
We're gonna need a source on this one before you make such a bold, baseless claim.

>>41541472
>How bad has your PIP been, /fit/?
True story, 3- and 5-way bodypart splits were invented in order to work around PIP.

So a hot stripper who I matched with a year and a half ago just recently hit me up. She seems suspiciously interested and wants me to visit her at the club tonight while she's at work. What do lads? Am I being scammed? It's strange that she texted me after such a long time and is constantly texting me now.

>>41542521
She seems quite crazy after just one day of texting. Thinking I should abandon ship

>>41541472
I pin delts and glutes. I had a batch of gear that gave me hella pip 2-3 days after injection but now I'm on better shit that doesn't leave any pip at all. Dunno why

>>41541533
not the new meme trend asmr no, but asmr tier youtubers like nobbel

>>41542521
>wants me to visit her at the club tonight while she's at work.
That's not legit. They don't view customers as being human, if she wants you to be a customer then you're a mark or a moe.
> Am I being scammed?
Probably.

>>41542534
> seems quite crazy
Dude she's a fucking stripper.

>>41541131
>vegans are statistically happier
Not a surprise, retards seem to be pretty happy people, too.

>>41542577
I know m8. Now she's asking if I can skip the gym to see her earlier. SHIEEEEEEEEET. Bitches be trippin

>>41542617
Only go if getting laid is a 100% sure thing. If not, then don't waste your time.

What is /fit/'s opinion of 18 year olds doing low dose test cycles for 8-12 weeks with an AI, and full clomid and nolvadex PCT. Doing it for athletics

>>41542676
Test is test no matter the dose you'll still be surpressing natty test so just do 500mg a week like everyone else.

>>41542645
Nah she just said she would only meet at the club because it makes her safe. Good call bro.
>tfw you're so easily rused by a whore because you're so desperate for human interaction
Smh

>>41542521
yeah that's a common trick to bait you into paying for shit. it's not so much as scam as it is taking advantage of thirsty dudes.

never ever go see her at work. if she still wants to bang outside of work (and you don't mind the crazy,) go for it, but don't get jewed

>>41540105
is it any worth to do a 4 week tren cycle 50 mg eod just to see how i react to it ? running 500 test ew currently.

>>41542750
Actually it was a elaborate ruse by my ex gf who actually works at pure gold now. Guess she was trying to set up some ambush where all the people there would berate me? She was insane so I'm not surprised she works there now.

>>41542789
Also interested in this

>>41542742
It happens sometimes, mate. Just remember that a Tinder match is nothing more than something to stuff your cock into. You shouldn't look for an intimate connection on there.

>>41542789
just use a shorter ester with a proper cycle

>>41542789
just do a real tren cycle
8 weeks 50mg tren ace ED is a good start

if you get shitty sides stop it

>>41541020
was it prostate?

Any words of advice before my first tren cycle?

I've done a few cycles with stuff like test, dbol, eq, superdrol. this will be my first time trying one of the more serious injectables.

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>tfw I want to go on test since I'm a skinnyfat weakling

>can't because I'm 21

>>41542789
No

>>41543612
It's all in your head.

>>41543612
When the thoughts of killing eveyone around you surface.....just go with it

>>41543612
yes but you're not going to listen.

make sure you get precycle bloods done and they're pristine. check all the usual suspects, rhr, ahr, etc. get fucking caber even if there's a very high chance you won't need it. bp meds aren't a bad idea, esp if you naturally have high BP (or if you have high BP on just test)

>>41543638
nice meme

so theres nothing you can do about roids making you go bald right?

I did a short cycle a while back but quit cause I noticed my hair was thinning


no point in getting jacked if im bald at 20
fuck my genetics desu, any good sarms that dont make you bald?

>>41543952
there are
>s-spoon feed me
no

>>41543612
do it fgt

>>41543952
you can add more drugs to counteract the effects of the drugs you're already

then add more to counteract the sides of your hair drugs, repeat until you become a walking pharmacy

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Ordered my stuff, got marked as shipped yesterday. Now I just gotta wait and hope whenever it comes in that I get to it before my parents. Otherwise it's going to be a very uncomfortable talk explaining why I shipped an illegal substance to their house.

How are you niggas doing today?

>>41543934
Your own fucking wiki says so, what the hell are you talking about

>>41544361
A lot of people here went on before they were 21, just understand there are risks

>>41544219
Just tell them you want to leave humanity behind. Talking in terms of average human performance, you're trying to go super saiyan. Be proud.

I'm on Dianabol right now. Is it safe to take Modafinil at the same time? The modafinil is unrelated to my cycle but I want to use it to study.

My research shows that modafinil isn't really liver toxic. I know you're supposed to be careful taking OTCs and other medications while on dianabol because of aggregate stress on the lvier.

>>41543594
massaging greatly reduces the chance of cancer, do research if you want

n-no homo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUTKTk60aGk
This is the new /fraud/ theme mix

>>41544383
>modafinil
>that rush of concentration you get for around 1.5 hours after taking a pill and a half

I remember writing my thesis for 3 nights, barely slept at all. Good ole modafinil.

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>>41544389
>tfw my bf saves me from the fraud cancer

>About to squat 3pl8
>stand under the bar
>literally forget how to lift it up
>feel lightheaded

W-what's going on lads?

>>41544640
aneurysm m8

>>41544717
But I still have sets to do

>>41544379
That can only go well.


"Mom don't worry, I just wanna be a super saiyan!"
"Is that a drug???"

>>41544640
crab depleted

>>41544592
really does feel several times better than jacking off. wish it didnt

>>41544640
either going hypo or you need to learn how to breath properly and brace, chris duffin has several videos on yt

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>>41540139
just put water in ur mouth before u squirt the solution into it lol

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bros, red pill me on how I can fix my sub 5 inch dick

I know about suspensory ligament surgery but that supposedly would only increase the flaccid length. Are there really any alternatives? Does korea has something to offer?

>>41545086

Truth?

Inject synthol into your dick.

Bingo bango problem solved you now have monster cock.

>>41545235
get banned idiot

>>41545086
>caring about pleasuring a girl
So beta

>>41545267
necrosis
only do this if you desire amputation

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When did we stop posting pictures of qt's?

Are we, dare I say, low test?

Dnp sauce talk ok?

Any of you queers run Ralox preemptively? I'm scurred of boobies.

>>41545456
why not just manage your e2 properly?

but yes you can do it. or nolva preventively. the problem with doing that is that you aren't actually taking care of the estro problem, you're just hiding it by making it so it can't bind to certain receptors.

>>41540390
He stopped posting 4 months ago... Shit...

>>41545412
DNP isn't illegal in the US so I don't see why it wouldn't be allowed

>>41545412
>>41545624
mods just kinda ban so they dont deal with potential legal issues

just go to reddit and look up pastebins. not worth a ban

>>41545665
Thanks. I know there's a dnp source talk subreddit but it looked private and I don't have a plebbit account

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Something I've been thinking about since I started researching n shiet. What sort of routine is optimal if you're starting your first cycle? I don't wanna go balls to the wall with heavy sets of five, since I've read horror stories of ripped tendons and such. Is it better to stick with light weight with higher reps, or is it possible to lift heavy without ripping your body to shreds?

I'm sure this answer is answered in a bunch of different places, but I respect you guys opinions and wanna hear them.

>>41545665
It's illegal to consume it

>>41545705
you should keep going with what you know.

increase volume as you see fit on a day-to-day basis if you notice you can.

How long can I blast 1g test e, 600mg deca and 400mg mast e?

I actually feel like life is worth something on this cycle, please don't let it end.

>>41545705
I did notice that my PRs went up quickly on my first cycle but I did get what I think was tendon pain, especially in my bicep, elbow, and forearm. I dropped back the weight and did higher volume. I also added different movements that I didn't do before. Steroids allow me to go longer and harder in the gym and that seems to be enough for fast growth. Juts push yourself hard, it doesn't need to be with the heaviest weight.

>>41545729
really? or is that just any chemical substance that isnt' FDA certified

no way to enforce that though

>>41542676

If your happy with the height you are, then go for it. If you want to grow an inch or two then don't do it. Test can close your epypheseal plates.

>>41543638

Try test boosters if you don't wanna do test.

>>41545761

What if I told you that you didn't need steroids to do that?

Hahaha nigga what is TWO SCOOPS? Like nigga just double scoop PREWORKOUT and do a bodybuilder brosplit.

>>41545766
It's legal to have it and spread it on a lawn. It's illegal to eat it.

That's like how it's legal to own the cactus that creates DMT, whereas DMT is a schedule 1 substance.

>>41545892
I could also technically walk 10 miles to work, but I'd rather just drive my car and get there faster and easier.

I didnt aspirate but I noticed a bit of blood in the deadspace zone of the syringe after I pulled out, anyone else experience this? Also there was only the normal droplet of blood that came from my injection site afterwards as well so I dont think i fucked up too badly.

>>41545758
You can literally run it until the day you die.

>>41546036
>normal droplet of blood
>blood in the syringe
who could possibly explain this mystery of science

>>41540105
Wtf this hit hard and I'm not even a fraud

>>41546036
its fine.

>>41546075
but how did the blood get into a loaded syringe that i was injecting the whole time

>>41540105
Where can I buy needles? Not really wanting to order them online. I live in burgerland btw, will places like wallgreens just have the behind the counter?

>>41546095
the moment you stop injecting theres no pressure anymore and it can go inside the needle.

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>>41546092
>>41546112
Ah that makes sense, I do leave the needle in a few seconds before pulling it out. Anyways I wasn't too worried as Im injecting tren so if I did inject into something I shouldn't of, I would be too busy dealing with the repercussions rather than posting here.

>>41546104
pretty much every pharmacy will carry them, but they reserve the right to not sell them to you for any kind of reason, like if you look like a junkie or some shit (or an obvious roider lol)

there's also the fact that it'll be 3 times more expensive and you'll have less choice. but yes, you can buy irl.

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>>41546153
>like if you look like a junkie or some shit (or an obvious roider lol)

No chance of that m8 I don't even lift

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>>41545854
I literally said I want to do test, but even at the appropriate age it has its risks, I don't want to increase those risks further if I can help it.

>test boosters

I've read both here and on other places that they don't work worth a damn, though. Like, the best you can hope for is a 15% increase or so.

Has anyone here gotten abscess ? Is it possible to get one in your ass?

>>41546569
No it's absolutely impossible, the ass Gods descend from heaven and prevent all abscesses from forming in that region of the body.

>>41546624
Bless the ass.

>>41546555
If you want an actual test booster that works and doesn't have the side effects of steroids, use HCG

>>41546692
You will barely notice a difference at all by doing an HCG-only cycle, and that type of cycle will still fuck your hormone system and require a PCT.

If you want to go half-assed why not just do 500mg of TestE a week, get actual results, and be happy

>>41540421
Read his thread, that retard thought good nutrition is gonna help him fight cancer off better than doctors. Serves him right, I hold no sympathy for people against science.

>>41546790
should have tried dnp

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So I'm in a bit if a pickle here fellas

I just got notified that I'll be going into the field for 2 weeks, and there is a possibility that there won't be a gym. I'm also mid cycle.

So I was thinking about purchasing some gymnastic rings with a 40lb weight vest, and doing an upper/lower 6-7x per week doing a fuck ton of heavy ass pull ups and dips (6-8 sets, once I fail to get 5 reps, take some weight off), along with pistol squats for legs.

Would I still be able to make gains doing this?

Pls help me my dudes

>>41546876
technically yes. I've been forced to do similar before, did essentially what you outlined plus pushups plus some pressing, squatting and """"deadlifting"""" (not really) with some heavy sandbags I found. not as effective as my actual routine but certainly better than nothing.

>>41546986
Alright thanks dude. I always believed that pull ups and dips were the upper body equivalent of squats and deads, so I figured I could still add mass out in the field on cycle doing these heavy af

Why don't more people run ralox on cycle to prevent gyno? It's not expensive and few sides. Seems worth it since everyone on AAS gets a gyno scare at least if not full blown gyno.

>>41547018
Most people are dumb and reckless.

>>41547009
you absolutely can. you won't leave humanity behind, but that's not the point here anyway.

>>41547018
I need to get some ralox ASAP but I live with my parents so getting gear is risky as is. I always have to order a bunch of amazon packs so they think its just t shirts.

Been out of the game a while. Is Dinitro still the guy to talk to for DNP?

>>41547144
He's retired and enjoy your b&

>>41547313
Ban for saying dinitro? Lol this place went soft

>>41545908

You are weak as hell if you need steroids to work out lmao.

>>41547018
Ralox is basically Nolva 2.0, you can do just fine with an AI.

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how's the bacne treating you?

>>41547793
I haven't taken a lat spread pic in like half a year because of the shame. and you can even see some small spots in the old ones.

ahem, I mean, w-what acne, h-heh

How do you know when to cut down? I keep wanting more size, but I'm getting fat now

>>41548566

Lifting (especially physique/bodybuilding) is a cyclic process of self-loathing.

When you look in the mirror and hate yourself, you'll be ready to cut. When you walk into the gym and hate yourself, you'll be ready to bulk.

>>41541080
i'll get minced in the race wars before cancer gets me so who cares

>>41544978
Yeah I figured after, just draw a small amount of water in the syringe before usage as well, that way the alcohol is no longer anhydrous.

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>>41548691
I agree but I'm living in the worst of both possible worlds right now. I started skelly and all my proportions just seem naturally small compared to other men. My arms have grown a lot, I'm getting stronger, but I still don't have that nice natural thickness in the arm and forearms that other men have. I also have weak lifts. Meanwhile I'm up to 180 pounds at 5'11" which is embarrassing. I estimate I'm about 20-25% body fat. I know if I cut now, I'm only going to get weaker. If I bulk now, I'm only going to get fatter.

It's complicated by the fact that I'm on week 4 of my 15 week cycle. I planned for this to be a pure bulking cycle (test en + dbol) without regard for fat gain but I'm having doubts now. Is it retarded to bulk until week 10, then use the final 5 weeks to cut? Otherwise, what advice do you friends have. Should I cut now or keep bulking?

>>41548767
How's your diet anon?

>>41548691
What if its both

>>41548767
What was your weight pre cycle?

Some of what you may think is fat may just be water.

>>41548824
>Some of what you may think is fat may just be water

>dbol

Probably, yeah.

>>41548808
It's not the greatest. I think I am eating about 2,600-3,000 calories every day. If I don't eat that much, I stagnate on all lifts and don't get any stronger.

>>41548824
It was 171 pre-cycle. You're right about gaining some pounds from water retention, but 170 at 5'10" without being able to OHP 1 plate is still pathetic.

>>41548865
You don't count calories? Do you have a set diet so you know how much protein and such you are eating? Do you eat lean or normal food? Diet is key my friend, especially on test. Shit is important

>>41548808
>>41548865
Explanation about what I eat:

gyros on whole wheat, a tuna/pasta dish, a lot of whole fat milk, mixed assorted vegetables, white rice and tilapia, organic peanut butter on whole wheat bread, bananas and other fruit, raw rolled oats that I put in a big cup with greek yogurt and eat every morning, ramen noodles if i need a quick snack, eggs, and rarely I buy cupcakes or something like that.

Rarely (1x/week) I eat a burger or pizza when my calories for the day are low for some reason.

>>41548865
Youll drop some of the water when you finish the dbol most likely.

>>41548905
Nah I don't know how many calories I'm eating.
I started at 115 lbs. in high school and I have been on a straight bulk since then. I have never had to count calories because I had exponential growth and 5% body fat so it was never a concern, until recently. I got up to 170 naturally and I plateaued hard. That's when I decided to hop on Test+Dbol.

I'll start counting calories, but is there a guideline to how many I should I eat on my cycle?
And should I cut or bulk now?

>>41548909
That's not terrible, probably just waterweight then. Keep bulking, asparagus is a natural diuretic so it can help you lose some waterweight but don't expect anything until after you finish your cycle. Also during PCT don't go crazy and start cutting like a madman before your body has recovered itself.

>>41548939
So keep bulking on a light surplus of 300-400 calories, maintain weight, do my entire PCT, and then slowly cut after my body has stabilized?

>>41548980
Sounds like a good plan, you'll be happier that you kept bulking when you see those muscles.

Is ops pic supposed to be ironic? Women love hypersexual narcissists with mommy issues. They think they can fix them

>>41546754
why the fuck do you idiots post?

no you don't need fuckin pct for a hcg-only cycle, it doesn't shut down or suppress anything, in fact it's the opposite, it increases your test by making your testes work harder

>>41549149
t. someone who doesn't understand biofeedback

Have fun with your underperforming anterior pituitary gland

>>41549247
congratulations on repeating what I said doesn't fucking happen you absolute moron

your pituitary gland DOES NOT UNDERPERFORM. it produces MORE LSH and FSH due to HCG, not less

>>41549394
Nigga is you retarded

Hcg mimics lh

Lh increases test

Test decreases lh and fsh due to negative feedback

Lh and fsh stop being produced because you've got high test and something already mimicking lh

>>41549394
There is a mechanic called BIO FEEDBACK. You learn this in Biology for Middle Schoolers. IF YOU HAVE increased levels of Testosterone in the blood, the body says "Ok I have enough Testosterone, time to stop producing it!" Then it shuts down a precursor to Testosterone production, which lowers your Testosterone levels.

If you use any substance, including HCG, to raise Testosterone levels in the blood, it's going to decrease your body's natural production of Testosterone through BIOFEEDBACK. You can spin it any way you want or talk about follicle stimulating hormone if you want to; it doesn't matter. All the body knows is "high test = stop making test." This means in order to get your body back up to normal production levels after injecting with HCG for 10 weeks, you will need a recovery period to retrain your body what to do! Hm, this sounds eerily like a PCT!

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>>41544219
Lol my mom got to my packages before me both times. One came from a vape shop but she doesn't even know what vaping is.

I got a lock-safe coming so ill only get fucked over if she finds needles but no way in hell she'll get the vials

Still gives me a bit of anxiety tho, rightfully. I hate the hypocrisy. Women and average people think their idols and celebrity crushes are all natty but then go around and fuck over normal guys usin steroids to try to make themselves happy for once since the standards are so high

>>41540105
Do you guys buy generic propecia? Or do you get a prescription? Weighing my options right now. I tried PSO and the 5% peppermint oil. The oil helped a little, PSO didn't do shit

>>41550011
I take pharmacy grade propecia.

>>41550018
>I take pharmacy grade propecia.

That seemed like the better route. Thanks man

Decided to go to a shopping centre just because I haven't been to one in a while. Me and exgf used to go all the time, just have fun looking at things and making fun of people.

Walk around for a bit, just feel like shit. I have money coming out of my ears but I just can't bring myself to buy anything. Nothing I want in an entire shopping centre. Then I see exgf coming the other way. Haven't seen her since the breakup. 100% she sees me too. Walk past each other without a word. I can smell her perfume. Feel even worse now. Go home. Cried for a little bit.

It's time for more tren isn't it?

>>41550084
Why care? I don't understand people who get attached to women.

>>41550113
Because I experience peer bonding like a normal person.

>>41550084
>It's time for more tren isn't it?

always my friend

>>41550084
>Money coming out of your ears
Drop the test and tren and do trest and DHB

>>41550139
I'm interested in a trest protocol. It's my understanding that a test base is redundant and estrogen control is crucial.

Do you have any experience with trest only cycles?

>>41550139
I would if I already wasn't trying out tren for the first time.

>>41544048
;)

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>>41540105
>ctrl+f ana/var
>no results
Dang. Anyway, how do you guys feel about it? I'm gonna get some after I cut like 25lbs.
Does a 6 week cycle of 10mg a day, taken twice a day in two 5mg doses, with a week to go up and then a week to go off sound good? Seems to be the norm, but idk if a longer cycle would be better, say 10 weeks.
Will I need a blood test for var that low?

>>41550256
have fun wasting ur money taking girl roids and making barely any gains

>>41550256
holy fuck I am sick of hearing about var in this thread.

>>41550256
>10mg a day
I seriously hope you're a girl

Does fit generally believe that there is a low risk with people under 21 doing 12 week test e cycles with full PCT? Planning on doing one of 500mg test e a week for 12 weeks at 18 years old with a nolva and clomid PCT. I am pretty full grown (full beard, penile length, voice of a 30 year old man, very hairy and oily.

Athelete and work out 6 days a week and am 6'2" 180 lbs 10% bf. looking to get up to 195 post cycle. This cycle and post cycle look good?

>>41550256
90% of var is winstrol

>>41550313
can you stop asking this shit?

>>41550316
my favorite meme

>>41550316
Diff poster

Tfw legit var powder

Do I bother taking it?

>>41550347
No source talk fbi

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>>41550359
Oh rite, my bad. First time posting and i'm dumb and drunk.
Bleh.

>>41550347
if you're actually a girl then you should start at 5mg just in case, then increase to 10mg if you don't notice any signs of virilization after 3-4 weeks.

go for 8 weeks. don't post sources unless you like getting banned.

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>>41550393
I was gonna do a 5mg ramp up week, that seems pretty common, but yeah it's better to err on the side of caution lest I grow a clit dick.
So like one 4 week cycle of var, take a break of, what, a month? Then my second cycle I go up to 10.
It's just kinda hard finding info out about taking var as a girl.
And I totally did not read the OP, and didn't think anything of it since there's a whole subreddit related to sources.
How do you guys ever find your sources then, just give weird encrypted messages, or do you just say google it?

Car doesn't do shit for me because I'm too fat. I would only run it if you're sub 15%.

How much weight and mass can I expect to put on if I'm gonna run 500mg Test E for 16 weeks?
I've never made noob gains and I'm starting as a skelly

>>41550452
If skelly then probably the same as noob gains cause your body is going to want to gain when you start eating enough.

>>41550391
>dumb and drunk

Oh yeah you should defo /fraud/

>>41540105
I'm only posting because OP's pic describes me perfectly.

>>41550432
>So like one 4 week cycle of var, take a break of, what, a month? Then my second cycle I go up to 10.
wait why? just do 4 weeks of 5mg then 4 weeks of 10mg. or 3/5. or even 2/6 if you don't care that much.

I recommend doing it all at once then leaving enough time for your lipids to properly recover before going again.

>>41550452
idiot

> tfw first cycle almost over
> I never want to have normie test levels again
That's not living. Hold me lads.

>>41550523
How I rationalise BnC

Anyone ever use tbol on a cut?

I got some and I'm currently cutting on 200mg Test E, thinking about adding in the tbol to help with strength/performance in the gym, and gain some fullness and hopefully help me dry out a little

Thoughts?

>>41550509
>wait why?
I thought you were recommending 2 cycles, my bad. Okay, 5mg/4 weeks, then 10mg/4 weeks, and that includes my load/deload week cause I guess coming off var can make you have mood swings. I haven't read anything about pct with var, is that necessary?

I feel like a fool, but I'm just trying to get as much info as I can, there's a lot of conflicting info on leddit and i'm trying to sort it all out, but i'm not gonna post there.

>>41550552
you're a woman, you don't need PCT, no.

>>41550084

>the smell of her

Made me remember too

>Still having feelings
>still with humanity

>>41550552
I'm pretty sure Bimbo and Kahuna both have experience with var for girls. Both are AWL

Different Anon but PCT is not necessary. PCT is to help males recover their natural test production which is suppressed by AAS, which as a girl you do not have. So you just stop taking it. Despite not requiring PCT some liver protection wouldn't be a bad idea. Such small doses (albeit ample for a girl) wont stress your liver overly but NAC is cheap. If your have decent health care getting your liver value done will give you a good idea on how sturdy your liver is.

>>41545758
What is the difference in feels and gains between 500 and 1g test?

>>41550596
Bimbo is a gay porn star and kahuna is a heroin addict so don't take their advice

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>>41550560
Ah, okay. I just read that pct was important, but now I see a wiki on it, and it says it's for assisting test to come back. Thanks for the help, I'm sure i'll be back in a few weeks when i've read more.
>>41550596
Thanks, might as well take a little pct then for dat liver health. Too bad I don't know what awl means. American weight lifters, australian wrestling league, amazing wonderful ladies?

>>41550618
Although I'm not overly impressed by Kahuna's habits why would being in porn be relevant?

>>41550639
PCT and liver support are different. NAC an okay form of liver support for those var dosages, TUDCA would be excessive imo.
Learn the terminology or people are gonna shit on you when you ask questions.

>>41550654
var has nearly no impact on ALT values even run at 70+mg ed, liver support is completely unnecessary, a huge waste of money

though I admit I don't know the difference (if any) between male and female liver health

>>41550668
I did suggest that she get her bloods done. That way she will be able to make an informed choice. I'm fairly cautious i'll admit

>>41550647
Only a complete degenerate would see nothing wrong with a "straight" man taking it in the ass for cash my man.

the more worthless I feel the bigger I want to be

anyone else

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>>41550852

>>41540223

its for the better, anon

>>41550933
Someone tell me that anadrol wont give me gyno. Seems like people say it gives you gyno despite not converting to estrogen and that it's stubborn and wont go away.

>>41550965
just control yoru e2 like usual dude

>>41550987
Anadrol doesn't elevate e2 but people still get gyno that's why it worries me, same with sdrol. It's not from prolactin either.

>>41550843
Caught me ;)

Best physique for attracting teenage girls?

>>41551554
Dyel with abs now shoo shoo this thread is for men who lift to look good for other men

>>41551566
Abs + chad face

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im on pin 3 of tren a 75 mg eod and i already had night sweats WTF. btw when will the gains start showing up ? week 2 ?

>>41550313
what the fuck are you trying to ask

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so i just spilled 5000iu's of HCG on my living room table

im not a clever man senpai

>>41550965
it will

use nolva

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What drugs make people look like this?

>>41552229

750-1,000mg of Testosterone, AI, and GH

What dose of zinc do fags that take zinc for ai use?
Where's stoya when you need him

>>41552331

where u been bby

what happen to Erin

Also 50-100mg

>>41552338
Oh shit you're alive.
How have you been bbgrl
Erin's good

Also really that low? I assumed it would be some stupid high dose.

>>41552353

I'm gud :>

Is this true? Does it really mean the "just one cycle" meme can actually beneficial?

>Brief exposure to anabolic steroids may have long lasting, possibly permanent, performance-enhancing effects, shows a study published today [28 October] inThe Journal of Physiology.

>Previously, re-acquisition of muscle mass – with or without steroid use – after periods of inactivity has been attributed to motor learning. However, this new data from the University of Oslo suggests that there is a cellular ‘memory mechanism’ within muscle of brief steroid users.

>The team investigated the effects of steroids on muscle re-acquisition in mice and discovered greater muscle mass and more myonuclei – which are essential components for muscle fibre function – were apparent after returning to exercise.

>>41552384
Every time I've gone off, I've kept that roid look to a extent, I've kept the large pumps, and I've gained muscle back very quickly, for periods of 2 years or so.

I've seen those studies too, I think they're at least somewhat true

>>41552409
What compounds do you use? If this is true then I'm considering doing two cycles or so and then staying natty until going on trt later in life.

>>41552409
Just test, moderate doses, 250-500mg

>>41552440

250mg Test E
300mg Mast E
20mg Dbol

Feel like god, look like god

>>41552409
>>41552409
hey fag

>>41552378
I like that you're still alive chem. There's a vague comfort that someone can make so many... let's say "questionable" life choices and come out the otherside relatively unscathed

>>41552449
>>41552353
>>41552378

aw shit. forgot mine name. Dont want you lads thinking iwas some randomknobhead anon

>>41552440
Good, this is what I'm thinking of doing too. Has it really done so much and you've maintained a lot though? How come you don't blast and cruise

>>41552455
Randomknobhead pls
how u been fag

>>41552459
I change my mind on whether or not I think steroids will kill me at least twice a year.

>>41552492
That sounds like me minus the actually taking them part. Isn't coming off a pain in the ass for you to do so often

>>41552483
Real good. I'm flying to America soon to see a girl I've been on 1 date with when she was on holiday over here, so that's cool.

I'm on roids again so thats cool/unhealthy and I can feel my blood pressure screaming at me

>>41541549
>>41541942

Followed your advice and did not change anything for another day and as I woke up today the scale magically showed 86,9kg

Scales realy fuck with your head on dnp..

1,9kg more to lose and I reached my summer goal, let's see how much more I can lose on last 5 days on dnp.

I don't think im holding more then 1kg of water weight tho

>>41552535
Nah it's not a big deal.
I feel weaker when I'm coming off but only slightly.
The last few times I've not even used pct with no issues.

>>41552545
Awesome man, come visit.
I currently have someone sleeping on an air mattress in my living room who is from Italy but goes to uni in Scotland.
My house is a melting pot.

>>41552545
Also yea the roids thing. I can never make up my mind on that, I do roids and eventually decide it's unhealthy, and then a while goes by and I decide to do them again.
What are you on?

>>41552582
>Nah it's not a big deal.
>I feel weaker when I'm coming off but only slightly.
>The last few times I've not even used pct with no issues.

What de fugg? Just came off with nothing and was okay?

>>41552535
>>41552582
>The last few times I've not even used pct with no issues.
Seconded

Very awesome. Like it's way to early to be like "shes the one" but she's totally the one m8.

Where do you live breh? If it's realistically close I could pop over for a stay on an air matress

>>41552449
>relatively unscathed
He has a head like a washing machine, the type you'd find in a river.

Hes a shambles of a person.

>>41552621
Wait are you guys actually coming off with pct, don't you get gyno and takes a long time for natty test to recover?

>>41552592
Anadrol which I think is the BP fucker. Bit of tren. And phasing in some deca to help my joints be not complete garbage.
Should probaby trim it all back to just test but my I like playing with chemicals

>>41552622
100% but he's not particularly in a worse place than he started and he's done a lot of very stupid shit. Though in turn you could say he should have got himself in to a better position by now.
Meh, his life idgaf. He's probably had fun (in between all the trauma).

>>41552651
I've taken like 4 pills of tamoxifen in my life.
Don't have gyno (maybe really minor but yolo), I've had the beginnings of it but throw some drugs at it/manage doses and the fibrous tissue won't really lay down.
I don't even have an AI on hand this time round.
never had issues coming off with lethargy or lack of boners or anything.
Just the expected loss of the roid look, strength etc. My actual body bounces back no issue i feel.
I might've damaged my swimmers somewhere along the line though as I've rawdogged a lot of grills this past year and only one told me she had an abortion

This ain't general advice though. PCT should still be done. I've just not bothered and not felt any worse for it

>>41552618
Yea just stop injecting and keep eating big and lifting hard.

>>41552621
Shit man, is she the one?
Does she have big boobs?
I live in Florida
>>41552651
Nope no problems whatsoever
Just don't let yourself think just because you're off roids you're gonna shrivel and become a twink.
Eat and train like you're on roids still

>>41552702
True. I've been reading and a lot of people say pct isn't as important people make it out to be.

Reason being is that I'm in Canada and considering hopping in but based on all my research every Indian pharma company refuses to ship to Canada due to customs issues so im thinking Ill need to buy ugl pct and expect it to be bunk or underdosed and kinda worried

>>41552716
Good to hear you guys had good experiences though, that's reassuring

>>41552716
>is she the one
Man, I was actually like properly happy in her company. But I'm also being adult and recognsing that it could all fail when I actualy get out there, we'll wait and see.
On the smaller side, but that's my type. She's so fucking qt. Anime fan, fitness trainer, beer drinker qt

I'm going to be over 1,000 miles away. America is too big. What we're you guys thinking having states bigger than some countries?

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>>41552750
its not that its not important its just that everything about "PCT" is still more or less a mystery.

One dude doesn't even need pct and recovers to even higher natty test, the other fucked his endocrine for good and others recover somewhat.

We just still don't know what the fuck happens or why it happens, we just take pills making sure not the absolute worst happens but even then its a gamble.

>>41552839
I don't like this uncertainty, mommy

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>>41552861
thats why you bnc for life faggot.

genetics gave me the easy choice and gave me shit natty test anyway so its not like im ever pct'ing.

infact, wanna buy some nolva? jk, mods pls dont ban me.

>>41552874
My test is rather low too but I'm not sure I could ever blast and cruise if it wasn't pharma... just seems risky for so many reasons

>>41552895
then get a prescription or buy pharma test for a markup?

this aint exactly rocket science, if you live in America/UK/EU pharma is pretty easy to get, just expensive.

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>>41552934
Canada...

>>41552806
Lel can't hurt to try and see if it'll work

>1000 miles
Yea America is too big. I live like 900 miles away from where I grew up

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>>41552952
lol my b

>>41552570
you'd be surprised
I've pissed out like 3 additional kg over the next eight days after I went off DNP last time lel

>>41552985
I've been looking and there's this one doctor who apparently will prescribe trt, HCG and an ai but this nigga wants like $1000 a year just for consultations. Is that worth it

>>41540220
I dont know how many cycles you did already .. but with 1g per week i assume you are already into it .. go with the classic deca and test .. you can jumpstart with a two weeks prior dbol cycle

>>41553030
no, just buy from the purple poo poo labs and risk a seized pack.

>>41553057
Yeah but the benefits of this would be pharma test, pharma hcg and ai plus having a legit doc reviewing bloodwork every 3 mo.

>>41553097
If you bought all this separately, it would STILL be about half as expensive as going to a doc like that.

I was thinking of doing the same, fucking 350 dollars a MONTH where i live for 200mg test weekly. It's a rip.

>>41553231
Only less than $100/month for this one though. Doesn't seem so bad really.

any exercises to "harden" your quads but not increase it's size at all?

don't want thunder thighs.

>>41553287
lower bodyfat %xf

>>41553277
You could get everything you need for a year round cruise for 400-500.

Like sure, do it for a year to acclimate yourself, but don't keep doing it. It's still a waste

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4 weeks in and im feeling more conscious of my heart, well i think it's my heart its a sensation that comes and goes from behind the left pec, pretty sure im running on the lower side with estro so i've nailed it down to anxiety, does that sound right? only running 400mg test e per week + 12.5mg aromasin EOD

bemp

>night shift
>lunch is close to 1am

Lads I really want to have 2 cans(800ml) of cream of chicken soup, but it's literally 4grams of sodium for 400 calories.

jesus fucking Christ.

Could also have an allday breakfast sandwich, but 260 calories per 100grams is kinda dense compared to mash, peas and hamhock at 90cals per 100grams or any pasta based dish which hovers at 120cals per 100grams.


protein shakes or yogurt with protein is out of the question, I just had a liter of soy milk and 3 scoops of chocolate soy isolate.

gotta have some variety ya know.

>>41553925

the fuck is wrong with you?

I take in 5 CCs of 250test+200 equipoise every week, 50mg anavar a day, 20mg superdrol a day and t3/anxillaries and 250mg dnp and I'm fine.

outside of the whole DNP lethargy and heat issue.

>>41555116
stop obsessing. bit more sodium won't hurt you, sandwich is more filling by volume compared to mash and peas and such (inb4 lol just eating 100 grams of it), pasta I have no input on because it greatly varies with ingredients.

tl;dr you are no anorexic female model so don't think like them

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Got the Test and Clomid I ordered today. I was incredible paranoid for some reason checking the mail today, like I was gonna pull the package out and a pair of handcuffs were gonna magically appear around my wrists.

Anyway, now I gotta 'stache it somewhere until I can get the rest of the shit I need. Thanks to that anon who called me a fucking idiot the other day, you helped me not completely fuck up by forgetting my ai and proper pct stuff.

Also I'm surprised this thread is still going.

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Do you thinn this guy is on the juice?

He benches like 1 plate though lol

>>41555811
fuck no that would be the saddest specimen of someone on roids ever

>>41555811
either the absolutely most heinous case of >roiding for this (I've seen it happen on reddit and irl tbH), or an unfortunate natty. no real way to tell.

>>41555542
nice blog now fuck off

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>>41555811
>Writes large on his chest to convince people he is large

Why does that remind me of something

>>41556001
no

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Can someone explain why blasting is necessary? Can't I just cruise forever on 200ml Test every week and treat it like TRT? Would I still need an AI during this and how much/when?

>>41556113
Blasting provides gains for competition,be it bodybuilding or sports

>>41556113
>200ml
fugg

blasting isn't "necessary," what kinda question is that? yes you can just do trt forever if you're just low test and you need it.

your post is fucking dumb read the wiki

what's the skinny of ostarine, brahs

t. mildly fatass

>>41556288
*on

>>41556157
I'm not entering any competitions though

I just wanna be swole

I'm getting wwwwicked PIP lately. Just testosterone enanthate.

I inject ventrogluteal every time, rotate sides. I feel fine the first day, then after 1.5 days the pain starts, gets worse over the following 2 days, then finally goes away.

What are strategies to avoid PIP? I've been injecting fast because I read somewhere that injecting fast leaves less time for you to move the needle around in the muscle, causing damage. But now I'm reading that pushing it slow is recommended.

It's pretty bad, I can't even walk today.

>>41556387
life is the biggest competition of them all, sweetie.

You wanna be better than erry'one else

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>>41556288
If you're considering it, then just do steroids. They're are as expensive (if not cheaper), and they're proven to work, while ostarine and other SARMS are fairly new and haven't really been tested as much. I'd go with tried and true over a gamble with something that's probably less effective and more expensive.

>>41556478
>I've been injecting fast
Where did you read this? I've always read to inject it slowly. If you're having problems, might as well try slow injection and see if it changes anything.

Is dbol the only oral that won't make me lethargic as fuck

>>41556813
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no qt and a old as fuck thread, what happend fraud?

I'm thinking about injecting into the vastus lateralis. Would the PIP be as annoying as I assume?

>>41557126
thats the regular spot to pin quads, pip isnt bad at all but its p annoying if you get it bad yeah

>>41556992
Yeah well Anadrol and Superdrol are very toxic so they make you lethargic. Dbol seems like the only bulking option that wont make me want to kys myself.

>>41557184
dbol also kills my liver and makes me want to fuck off and sleep all day, so ymmv

just get some tudca and everything will be fine

>>41557171
It is?
I always pin the vastus intermedius

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>>41557089
most of the good trips left
and jerry convinced everyone 3d women are overrated

>>41557290
it is
youre doing it wrong

>>41558402
>>41558402
>>41558402
new