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What size needles should I use for Melanotan 2, what dosage, where should I pin, and how often should I pin?

>>41524600
20g pins, right in the dick

>>41524600
please research.

>>41524610
>not pinning 18g directly into your nuts

So i wanna do my first cycle. Purely test-e for like 12-15 weeks, but i have a concern.

Ive had gyno since puberty. Im 27 now, and no matter how lean ive ever got my nips were always huge and puffy. I dont want to get surgery quite yet, but my question is, do i have to worry about it getting worse if i hop on test? Its like stage 1 gyno. Just puffy nips no manboob type shit. I know all about pct anf all that but because i already have it, am i gonna have to go heavier on anti est drugs?

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>>41524966
That's where HCG goes for max effect... right?... guys...

>tfw had to stop lifting early today because dry callusy hands was more unbearable than the lifts

>>41525052
buy nolva, take nolva if they get more sore than usual and you're all guchi

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>>41524600
29g+ slin pins, subcutaneous into abdomen

>>41525052
Blast some ralox, don't bother with nolva unless you don't have ralox

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Could I buy a prepaid MasterCard/Visa card that you put cash on that you get at the store, and then transfer it into my Western Union account? They have a place where you attach credit and debit cards to your account. Pic related

>>41525132
just use bitcoin you fucking FAG

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>>41525132
Also, would a prepaid card work if I'm buying stuff from GPZ Med Lab? They take Visa and MasterCard.

>>41525052
you're not more prone to estrogen sides because of your pre-existing gyno, no. just make sure you're on top of your AI and your tits won't grow bigger.

mid-term ralox use might even help reduce your existing gyno if you don't want to have the surgery done

>>41525132
If a source only accepts WU I would completely avoid it

>>41525072
>>41525093
>>41525198
I tried raloxifene on it's own for 3 months last year around fall while cutting, i saw no difference. as far as making my existing gyno less bad, it does nothing, but i'm sure it'll be useful in making sure it doesn't get worse.

thanks m8s

>heavy tmj pain after chewing gum and flexing my jaw muscles like crazy for 2 weeks.

welp guess i was a little bit too enthusiastic.

>tfw small perky nipples on AI

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>>41525229
Nah, he takes all of pic related

>>41525229
>>41525308
Oh, and he's also verified.

>>41525308
Good stuff. Everyone gets scammed somewhere along the way (or atleast i did lol). Be careful anon

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How long will it take before vials of Test E start degrading?

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>>41525395

>>41525395
in a dark room temp place? effectively 2 years maybe a bit more.

in sunlight? months.

>>41525425
store test like you store potatoes, they are essentially the same thing

>>41525395
>>41525425
also depends on whether they're still sealed/crimped. an opened vial lasts much shorter

>>41525483
olive oil anon?

If I'm a beginner, how much of a difference will 600mg of Test E make compared to 500mg?

>>41525599
nearly none. you basically run 500mg if you have access to 250mg/ml vials or 600mg if you have access to 300mg/ml vials.

>>41525612
>we only measure in full ml here.

>>41525703
that's literally how it works. makes it easier to inject, makes it easier to count how many vials you need, etc.

it's the same reason so many people cruise on 250mg/ml despite it being way too high for 99% of all people

>>41525612
>or up it to 750mg and become a god

What's a good way to dispose of syringes and needles?

>>41525771
Protein tub. Duct tape it sealed. Write sharps on the outside where it is plainly visible. Public sanitation will now dispose of it safely.

Would 60 caps of Aromasin that are 12.5 mg each be enough if I'm gonna run 500 mg of Test E for 16 weeks? I have slight gyno in my left breast from puberty (slightly enlarged, hard lump under nipple, lactated a bit once) so I'm not sure if that means I'm more prone to estrogen conversion, which I assume would mean that I'd need to up the dosages and how frequently I take it.

>>41525788
Forgot to mention that I still live with my parents

>>41525830
Be honest with your parents or move out.

>>41525819
I need 12.5mg ed on just 500mg test. some people take 6.25mg on pin days.

ymmv

>>41525830
so? use an old protein tub regardless

>>41525845
>Be honest with your parents
They don't want me injecting stuff because they said it's gross and unnatural
>Move out
I'm still in high school

>>41525771
Ive just been throwing mine in a protein tub while not planning on what im going to do with it after.
>>41525788 Is a good idea but like you I also with with my parents.

>>41525869
You should reconsider life choices.

>>41525856
>so? use an old protein tub regardless
Where would I hide it? I've talked to them frequently and recently about trying to get testosterone from my doctor and the doctor said no, and when they see me go from a skelly to muscular in 4 months they're gonna know something's up and probably start searching my room. I already have a good idea of where I can hide my vials, AI, and PCT, but I'm still not sure about the needles and syringes.

>>41525932
Lol please

You are a c h i l d

>>41525932
it's time to kys

>>41524564

Noob first time poster here, long time lurker. I started lifting at 17, was 5'8" 110lbs 10% bf, now I'm 5'10" 150lb 10% bf. I've been curious about steroids and prohormones but the most supplements I've ever used were protein shakes and fish oil.

My question is this, if I'm eating 3k calories and training rigorously and efficiently but not gaining muscle, would taking steroids or prohormones increase my lean muscle mass and keep me big once I get off them?

I'm afraid I would get stuck in a cycle of "doing cycles" of steroids to stay bigger. I feel like if I take steroids, eat 3.5k calories to get bigger, then get off them, I would get smaller if I go back to 3k calories a day and avoid steroids after my first cycle.

This feels like it's common sense, but I've never asked anyone to confirm this, and I felt like this would be a good place to ask.

So Tl:dr is this: if I take steroids and gain 3-8lbs lean muscle mass with surplus diet, will I go back down to 150lbs once off the steroids and back down to my "regular" diet?

>>41526459
what part of
>read all of http://reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki before asking your absolutely retarded questions. no exceptions.
has you confused?

>>41526497

"Are the gains from steroid use temporary?

Yes, and no. Steroids can help you do two basic things with regard to muscle growth. First, they can allow you to more rapidly reach your genetic limits for muscle growth. Provided you continue to train actively, eat properly, and use an effective PCT program, you should be able to maintain at your genetic limit indefinitely. So in this regard, the early gains do not have to be temporary.

Later, steroids can allow you to push well beyond your genetic limits. It is important to emphasize this, as extreme physical development cannot be maintained long-term without the repeat administration of anabolic substances. The body will always revert back towards its normal metabolic limits once AAS are removed. In this context, some of the gains will not be permanent.

Steroids do permanently alter the physiology of your muscles by adding more cellular nuclei. With higher nuclei content, each muscle cell can manage its volume more efficiently, which allows more rapid expansion. Even after a long period of complete abstinence from training and AAS, the nuclei remain. This may provide a “muscle memory” effect, allowing you to reach your genetic limit (perhaps a slightly extended limit) faster than if you had never used AAS in the past. So in this regard, there are lasting benefits beyond the temporary increase in muscle size itself."

So assuming I don't go past ~175lbs lbm (that would be close to my genetic limit) I could potentially make semi-permanent gains even tho I couldn't maintain a caloric surplus? But there's no guarantee of course... I'm not trying to get more than 15lbs of lbm or trying to get bodybuilding huge.

>>41525455
Can I inject home brew potato juice for gains?

Ethanol and PG arrive tomorrow for my home brew orals.

Havent been on anything in ages, starting tomorrow

Any one else feel like its kinda like christmas coming (where santa brings you gains) and youre excited?

>>41526541
mainline sourmash. 20lbs lbm first cycle ezpz

>>41526540
yes you can hit your genetic limit and keep it with a proper pct and long term adaptations to your lifting an nutrition.

But the amount of vitriol you'll get from the bodybuilding community for even asking is going to be huge. You haven't "earned" steroids yet.

When you drop to cruise do you lose those big juicy traps?

Fuck

I was i injecting my glute with 1ml of test and then the test starting leaking out of the syringe, and I don't know how much I lost.

So I said fuck it and injecting my other glute with 0.5mls just to make sure.

Now I'm pissed and can't sleep

>>41526922
How did it start leaking out the syringe?

>>41526818

I feel the same way. I feel like I haven't worked out long enough to "earn" access to steroids and get closer to my limit. I'm only 25 so I have a lot more progress to go either way. Thanks tho for answering my question.

Hey.

Test E 600 mg, 22+ weeks
Deca 500 mg, 20 weeks
EQ 900 mg, 18 weeks
Superdrol 20mg ED, 4 weeks

How much of a waste would this be for a DYEL? Broke my back a couple years ago, and besides light rehab I have not touched any weights since. Down from a fit 5'11" and 170 to Auschwitz mode around 140. Gonna do some 5x5 for a month or two so I don't destroy my connective tissue, but then I want to blast off. Is this really stupid?

>>41527113
Too much. You're going to grow too fast and injure yourself

>>41527113
yes it's really stupid you ape

don't use 4 different compounds you don't know how you're going to react to on your first blast. fuck.

>>41526898
That's why you cruise on Tren.

>>41527113
>never done steroids
>practically a beginner
>injured back
>running big amounts of never tried compounds for very long time together at the same time
>Is this stupid?

I think you know the answer.

>>41527113
You're fucking retarded

>>41527157
>>41527189
>>41527138
Thanks. Just gonna start with test and gradually work in other compounds.

I did run test and deca once in the past, fwiw. But yeah, never touched EQ or SDROL.

>>41527198
test is best

I've never moved on from test. Still running the same 10 week 500mg cycle I've ran since I was a Junior in University

>>41527198
That'a'boy.

>been on 400mg test/week enanthate exactly a month
>strength has exploded
>libido has exploded
>more vascular
>fuck all size put on
>gained about 6lbs

what is going on? has it meant to have kicked in yet? eating 6 huge meals a day too

Would it be fine to run a 16 week 500mg Test E cycle if it's my first time?

>>41527296
just over 1 lbs per week is a good rate, keep it going.

>>41527304
go ahead and plan for it. Youll know after about 6 weeks if youre going to do the whole cycle or end it at 10/12

>>41527304
yeah easy, test is nothing, just make sure you're taking arimidex eod

>tfw you say you do a PPL but you actually just do PPxPPxx and never work legs
d e v i l i s h

>>41527490
i dont ever do legs, but i also ride and run >100km combined a week, so my quads and calves are both joocy

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It's 1am and I have to do shit tomorrow fuark I just sat on my toilet reading about risk of global catastrophe and consciousness I'm such a silly boy XD

Fuck that shit, I'm not a thinking man. Steroids + red meat = Good good
>>41527490
DUDe same, I've lost no leg strength in 5 months off strength program with just minimal leg work

Switched back to Texas method tho RIP

>>41524564
Anyone had experience with MK-677? Im really keen to try it, from the research ive done it seems relatively safe. Can anyone tell me how much you could expect to gain from a 12 week cycle? (ball park figure)
thanks

why are steroids illegal? wouldn't it be better if you could get them in a pharmacy?

>>41527798
Cold War era politics. Joe Biden.

>>41527784
lol that's not how mk677 works at all

you can expect exactly zero gains, lots of hunger and some quality of life changes

>>41527815
oh and you certainly don't cycle it, at least not for 12 weeks.

>>41527821
not guy from before, but what is the point of it then

>>41527851
>mk677
>whats the point?

Jew people out of there money. God I wish I could afford even blacktops

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Tell me why I shouldn't do the big 3 every other day, alternating accessory work such as bis/trics/abs/shoulders.

>>41528058
>squats and deads on the same day

Way too much volume.

>>41528067
Hes on gear it's fine

>>41528058
I'm on gear and I could squat and dead the same day but not with the intensity i would like.

>>41528058
Because your elbows/shoulders will probably self destruct.
Or at least my elbows do if I bench 3x a week.
>>41528067
Just work up to a heavy set of whatever on one, and then do volume for the other. Although I wouldn't do volume conventional deadlifts, I think you'd get more out of paused deadlifts at whatever sticking point you have, or deficit deads.

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Just has a conversation with a coworker after they started discussing the Syrian war, got in ISIS and then they dragged me into it because "hurr hurr let's make the Christian admit he's no better than a Muslim like the massive cucks we are."

>But then you're no better than the Islamic extremists if you're willing to fight and die for your religion
>>And you're also no better than Islamic extremists if you're willing to fight and die for what you believe in, religious or not.
>Yeah but I believe in science, not God. You don't even know if God exists, you might be fighting for something wrong that doesn't even exist. You just don't know.
>>So you're willing to fight and die for science?
>Yes.
>>Can science be wrong about things?
>Sometimes
>>So you're willing to fight and die for something that may be wrong or not exist, you just don't know?
>Wh-what?

Why is it that atheists have some sort of grandeur complex over theists? Is it something to do with their commie tendencies or lack of willingness to procreate?

>>41528238
No ones beliefs are better than anyone else's.

It's just easier to admit upfront that you act on primal tendencies regarding resource acquisition for your tribe.

>>41528238
>>41528259

While atheism is inherently better, some people are just fucking cunts and you should not waste time on them.

>>41525229
I've ordered stuff from vendors that only take WU and it went fine. It really depends on their rep.

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Would Deca be a good addition to my TRT for recovery and joint relief? Thinking of running it for 12 weeks with an oral kickstart.

>>41528796
relief, yes, but it doesn't do anything in terms of recovery beyond masking the pain.

>>41528796
>adorable loli girl.jpg
Fuck off

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>>41528796
>adorable loli girl.jpg

Could ralox get rid of my gyno lump?

I've always had slightly puffy nipples, but its the lump that bothers me

>>41528954
maybe
but mine just makes my pecs look bigger from the right angle

I recently heard that only testosterone increase your testosterone, this might be the dumbest question of all time but I thought all steroids raised testosterone, as they are all derivatives of testosterone?

So someone could take a bunch of tren, yet if they got a blood test done their test levels could be normal?

Is 250mg too high of a cruise dose?

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>>41529117
h-huh?
of what?

>>41529130
Test

>>41529117
250 a week is fine

*lose more and more hair by the day*
nice

Will a test only cruise help me maintain all of my periodical blast gains?

>>41527784
I have been taking it for over a month now.

I have been eating a lot more since I started and I have gained weight, I don't think much of it is fat because I am still quite lean.
My skin might be better but I am not sure I have just been noticing less acne than before.

I am going to stop though because I have type 1 diabetes and I have definitely noticed the increase in blood sugars and seemingly lack of control unlike before I started.

Honestly just roid.

>steroids
Disgusting

>>41527021
The needle wasn't secure all the way and started dripping oil on my floor

I probably should've shot another 1ml, but fuck it oh well.

>>41529043
tren can have a false positive on e2 depending on the testing
but yeah it wount show as testosteron in a bloodpanel

Is there "good feel" gear that does not require to go past 400mg / week?

>>41529622
testosterone

where do you queers get syringes and needles wtf

>>41529700
If you are this stupid you should not be using.

>>41529709
half of you are former heroin addicts so you had them laying around

>>41529730
so youre dumber than a junkie?

Good work, kiddo

>>41529739
junkies just get them from the pharmacy because they have no shame

>>41529730
Just fucking buy them at a pharmacy jesus christ how do you think diabetics and junkies get their needles

>>41529746
I get mine from the pharmacy because it's legal and who gives a fuck.

>>41525253
>I tried raloxifene on it's own for 3 months last year around fall while cutting, i saw no difference. as far as making my existing gyno less bad, it does nothing, but i'm sure it'll be useful in making sure it doesn't get worse.
shit
i was thinking of buying ralox but now you've fucked my shit up entirely

i have the same condition as you and i was hoping this shit would help

>>41527296
Some people are faster responders than other but the whole "it takes 4 weeks to kick in" is over blown. Sure it takes roughly 4 weeks for the testosterone to build up and saturate to its full level but that doesn't mean its not working until that point, all its means is that its not working at full capacity.

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About to call up my autistic doctor and pretend the clomid RESTART MEME is giving me eye floaters so he gives me injections. I'm not waiting 6 weeks + another 2 for consultation and shipping.

Should I raise my voice or play it cool?

i realy do miss JMs blogposts and rants... wonder what he is up to right now.

>>41530100
You should fuck off and stop projecting your autism onto a medical professional.

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>>41530112
>trt clinic
>medical professional

is there any way to reverse pubertal gyno without surgery lads?

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Ruined my life again and now I'm in Louisiana

Sheesh

Getting too old for all this

>>41530148
Yeah conceal them by benching
Otherwise no

>>41530332
hahaha

Do tell

Is clomid used at TRT at clinics? should I put my future sons on clomid?

>>41530362
it doesn't do shit its a meme

>>41530340
Relapsed, cheated, got sepsis, gf went through phone while I was hospitalized.

Went to hospital and been in a program since then. Program workers went on strike and transferred me to Louisiana.

Was more exciting in person.

>>41530388
what about this?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5182219/figure/f1/

>>41530409
Oh I was uptodate until the transfer, thought you had went a bit sideways again.

Good that you're still in your program

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Nobody knows my suffering

>>41530426
stop being so fat then

>>41530444
thats gyno
had it since puberty

>>41530450
and?

You're fat as fuck too, you think we cant see that?

>>41530462
186cm 102 pham
will that bitchtit look decrease if i lose weight? i've been skinny too and its still noticable

>>41530521
102kg*

>>41530521
You will always notice it, you know its there and we see our bodies everyday and pick up on silly flaws.

Yes, a reduction in body fat will make it less noticable.

Yo cucks is there any way to lose fat with roids? People told me not to use test because it won't help me with fat loss.

Will one of the milder ones like Anavar help me, or will I have to diet first to lose the fat and then start taking roids?

>>41526459
Yes, youl shrink from not bein on roids

And youl shrink again from eating less

>>41530635
If you do not have the capacity to get your diet in order before using roids then you shouldnt be considering it as an option.

>>41530677
I do have the capacity but, like you, I want a shortcut

>>41530692
start blasting 1 g test/week without anything else man it will get you shredded bro I promise.
Also you dont need to diet/cardio while on this,shit is magic you'll be shredded in no time.

>>41530758
haha damn /b/ro you got me good

>>41530778
hah it looks like you get the joke my man :)
but admit it I got you good !! xD

>>41530692
Still requires you to cut calories and diet, it will preserve more muscle, so there'll be more fat loss. At high doses I think calorie requirements go up too so there's that.

>>41530967
I'm not an obese fat fuck, but I am overweight. I don't wanna use words like chubby because lots of fat fucks use it when in reality they're obese, but I really am chubby. Not too fat but need to lose some weight.

Would getting on a test cycle (say 200mg per week) whilst dieting make me burn fat faster than doing the same shit but without the test?

>>41531017
Doesn't make sense to do that

Would be smarter to get lean naturally, and then do your cycle

If you're taking anavar while on low calories you're going to build next to no muscle, so it would be pointless

Same thing with test

>>41529389
I wanna try something a bit less full on before I do a test cycle, where im from its insanely hard to get my hands on any decent gear and even harder to find any pct materials

any decent strength gains?

>>41531117
So there's no point in using roids for weight loss/fat burn? There's no other way to get lean other than naturally if you're a bit overweight?

Started using 600mg test a month ago, I'm already noticeably bigger than I ever was before but I'm also weaker than at my peak before I cut down, is this normal? Is there really not that much of a close link between size and strength?

>>41531228
there is absolutely no way the test didn't make you stronger

gone from 80kgx1 to 90kgx5 bench in first 4 weeks of cycle test enanthate 500mg/week
how much more strength can i expect? this shit is crazy

>>41531246
seeing shit like this makes me extremely keen to do a test cycle, just waiting for my tendonitis to clear up

>>41531228
Got bunk shit my dude.

>>41531234
>>41531273
It made me stronger for sure, but not as strong as I was before I lost a fuckload of strength on a long cut

>>41531277
Strength should come back anyways after a long cut. I mean just look at this post >>41531246
and compare it to yourself.

>>41531246
>roiding at beginner tier lifts

why

>>41531017
i dont think it will be faster, but the benefits are that it will be more muscle sparing than natty, and you'll feel alright cutting calories low. You could psmf on it even.

>>41531210
Its not faster unless your doses are high which can raise how many calories you need.

Roids are useful for losing fat because they will protect muscle, which is important for people who have built up muscle mass and want to keep it.

>>41531182
Id recommend LGD-4033, you can stack MK677 with it if you want.

LGD is pretty decent, and has several advantages in an oral only cycle for many people - dont feel as shit as oral roids only, long cycles are okay as not liver toxic.

PCT unneccesary - test strongly suppressed but LH and FSH not crushed to 0 and short half life means fast recovery.

It is actually rather good when stacked with test which is what I like doing with it.

>>41531299
why not

>>41531299
i was going to hop on anyway, why would i spend 6 months getting my strength up to end up where i would be now?

>>41531318
everything ive read puts emphasis on using a pct and im sorta paranaoid.

How long could i expect it to take for test levels to return to baseline?

>>41531318
>i dont think it will be faster, but the benefits are that it will be more muscle sparing than natty, and you'll feel alright cutting calories low. You could psmf on it even.
psmf?
>Its not faster unless your doses are high which can raise how many calories you need.
doesn't higher doses mean greater risks because of said fat, even with use of AI? and how much would you recommend?
>Roids are useful for losing fat because they will protect muscle, which is important for people who have built up muscle mass and want to keep it.
So it would be better for me to use roids? I've been lifting for 8 months now but I haven't been keeping a diet, just lifting, so I'm still a bit overweight. I'm on the verge of buying test atm but I want some info from you guys first if it would be better or if I'd just end up looking like a bloated mess

>>41531345
> sorta paranoid
You're not paranoid, you're just retarded. You have all this information that tells you to do a proper cycle, but instead you're going to suppress your testosterone and make no gains.

>>41531345
Majority of recovery typically within 2 weeks from most blood work posted.

Last few % a little longer. Your reading that stuff on websites and forums with sponsors that wont to sell you some overpriced "pct" herbal test boosters that dont do jack (if you want a pct, use some inexpensive toremifene etc).

>>41531358
protein sparing modified fast, can be done for a few weeks.

Yes, ai can usually control it, and I dont recommend high dosing just to increase fat loss.

Yes you could get bloated with water weight, an ai can help control that, an ai can also make your blood pressure go up too. Better is subjective, its better in the sense you can save time in progress of muscle mass and strength.

People say to cut first because you dont have to worry about losing much gains as opposed to cutting after youve made gains.

>>41527784
10 lbs of water breh

And there is a 95% chance that you are not going to get 99% pure MK-677, and it will have benzyl chloroformate... so dissolve it in water first so it can react with water first and not your stomach acid.

It is great for bulking... I can go through food like its nothing

>>41531320
>>41531327

You are at a far greater risk of fucking yourself up if you don't know what you are doing in the gym.

I highly doubt somebody benching 80kg knows what they're doing.

>>41531228
Up calories a little.

Do I have to inject? Wouldn't mind getting started, but I'm to going to do that shit. I think with my personality it would lead to heroin.

Daily reminded that nothing beats 250 test c 200 tren e cycle and anything beyond that is just being jewed out of your money.

>>41531413
so if i just wanna lose weight it's generally a better idea to to it natty first, and then hop on the roids for gains?

>>41531480
Unless youre already quite muscular, then yes, you can make back gains quickly after on cycle with less issues if youd like.

Theres other drugs that can help fat loss but they can fuck you up or are risky af.

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>>41531460
> paying to be out of breath

>>41531499
>Theres other drugs that can help fat loss but they can fuck you up or are risky af.
tell me

>>41531434
trained on and off for 3 years, took a year long hiatus for uni, got a little too fat, come back to gym, suicide cutted and here we are today
don't you worry about me friend

>>41531511
>>41531499
unless you mean DNP which i already knwo about

>>41531460
Im a week into 400mg ew of TnTe right now as a frontload for my 200-300ew summer blast. Im actually really looking forward to it. Would it be unrealistic to expect a 10-12lb recomp over the course of 15 weeks?

>>41531532
t3 and clen would be another option

How many days after quitting did you want to see how much I rebound? If anyone still cares el mao

>>41531610
Nobody here is man enough for T3.

These fags need to stop eating so much and start doing some cardio

>>41529700
I get them free from the clean needles dispensary at a ghetto pharmacy like a true degenerate

>>41531522
dont worry. a lot of steroid users act like gatekeepers and feel like you need to "earn" gear. Do whatever the fuck you want.

>>41531652
it's about 7 days m8

>1BTC=2271USD
what the fuck it jumped 200 dollars in a day

>>41531885
two more to go then. unless I blow up until then there's little change

>>41531915
I sold mine when it was $977 a few months back

haha.

>>41531915
shit I just saw that. You think it's gonna drop back down or go up?

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>called up defy medical and told them clomid is giving me vision problems
>they tell me to stop ASAP
>tell them I want to talk to the doctor to switch to injections
>supposed to call me in a few hours

Heh.. like you're gonna pull that meme treatment on ME...

>>41532447
enjoy your hcg next :-)

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>>41532458
Not funny.

>>41532464
God you're autistic.

The funny part is you don't realize your genetics are trash, so when you do pin you won't get large. You'll just get acne, bloofy and gyno.

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>>41532508
It's not possible to mess up a TRT dose of test + non-aromatizing oral.

>>41532578
Hahaha just wait dude. You will hate life when you realize you're still small and side effect ridden.

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But I am considering adding a therapeutic Deca dose to my TRT, like 100-200mg just for joint health and recovery. I don't want to visit snap city from sudden strength increases.

It would show up on my bloods though so I wont be able to run it for a while until they give me a longer leash of 6 months between bloods as opposed to 3.

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>>41532593

stupid fucking coinbase limits

I'm running out of AI but my weekly limit is $250 and I need to buy $600 worth reee

>>41532607
"I don't want to visit snap city from sudden strength increases."

Don't worry, you wont.

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>>41532657
What if I take Anadrol

>>41532664
you'll go bald and turn into a water bison

>>41532664
You can take Mtren or sdrol and you still wont get enough strength to fuck up your tendons.

>>41532676
Lol

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Do steroids help with maintaining eye contact?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w3cYtJekpw

>>41533463
no, try SSRIs or not being so autistic

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>>41531915
local laptop merchant was right

He probably made bank from this

>purchased $70 of bitcoin this morning in preparation for an order tonight
>it's already up to 76$

up like 10% in 12 hours lmao

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What's a good reason for not wanting to take HCG alongside TRT aside from IM FUCKING POOR? I'm sure the doctor will try to push it on me due to his age discrimination bias.

When I want kids I'll start taking it stop this infertility MEME

>>41534021
The only argument besides money is injection frequency.

>day 12 of my anavar cycle
>haven't been able to sleep at all last 3 nights

what gives faggots

>>41534357
you're a homo

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>>41534357
Even if you are on gear, you still need sleep to build muscle.
RIP to your gains, you were so determined as well ;_;

>>41531210
>Will one of the milder ones like Anavar help me, or will I have to diet first to lose the fat and then start taking roids?
dnp

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Who was the guy staying in Prague on here? Gimme cool shit to do when I go over and let me know where all the THINN girls are.

>>41534668
Why would such a gorgeous chick do porn? Please tell me that she don't do porn.

>>41534498
banned again idiot

>>41534773
What was it?

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>>41534708
I think she only does softcore. But yeah she's a QT.

>>41534889
alex

>>41534968
what

>>41529972
sorry bro, no dice, but i think it's good that people should know. i think what you and i have isn't technically considered real gyno, we just don't have flat chests. the whole reason i picked the shit up was because i read studies on people of all ages recovering from gyno with supplementation, and that the most significant reduction happens within 3 months. it may have worked for the other people because they had full on man tits.

>>41534668
>>41534890
God damn she is qt

>>41535007
welcome to /fraud/

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>>41535175
Fucking elaborate. Don't be a faggot.

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>pulled an all nighter because can't sleep on anavar

maybe my dosage is too high? might drop it to 50mg I wont get gains without sleep

>>41535404
Pleas stop talking to yourself. Threads not a blog.

>>41535435
I'm 50% of the posts here so fr*g off bully

>>41535404
anavar has literally nothing to do with it

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Hi, I'm a 24 yo woman which could get access to anavar this summer. I am considering taking 2.5 and working up week by week up by 2.5 to 10mg (so 4 weeks to reach 10) then staying there for 2 more weeks. I don't plan to blast and cruise, it'll be a one time use to kickstart a lean bulk after a long cut. I've seen the golems and know too well the curse of taking it too much, so no need to warm me I am well read in this kabbalist occult creatures binding lodge.
Picture related, the desired look. I won't go any further than that.

>>41535616
I'd do 5mg for like 4 weeks and then increase to 10mg if you think you're handling 5mg fine. also increase to 8 weeks.

you do you though, your plan isn't particularly bad either.

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>>41535616
>I've seen the golems
You calling Izzy a golem? Post current body.

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>>41535645
izzy was offensively ugly

>>41535642
thanks for the hot tip, most lips are sealed or spew nothing but shit. I wasn't expecting a guenuine response, see this >>41535645, I know better than to post my pictures on an offshore cryptocurrency mining webinar.

>>41535686
>ty and all but I'm a teasing whore

thanks for coming by there's the door

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Hey guys, I developed gyno under my left nipple about 2 months ago, and I am not even doing steroids and weigh about 160 with 10% bf. No idea where it came from, the only drug I take is propecia for hair loss.

I am thinking about started my first cycle, but want to see if I can get rid of the gyno first. Any recommendations on what I should take? I can't get to the doctor right now, should I just buy nolvadex and see if it works?

>>41529043
Tren will shut down your natural testosterone production. I can't remember if it is detected as test in a blood test.

Steroids don't replace all the functions of test in the body, some can replace all the functions you need and disable others (like trest being a form of birth control as anti fertility drug for men)

>>41528796
fucking kill yourself you pedo shit

>>41535851
normie pls go reddit is that way

>>41533463
yes.
my issue now is that i cant break eye contact, ever.
i feel like i am staring.
total unrelented eye contact is not what charming guys do, i fear i come off as a meathhead, which i am of course.

>>41535858
fuck you nobody likes pedo you sick fuck

Real differences in tren A vs. tren E from someone who's experienced with both? (aside from duration of esters)

In my Western Union account, is it ok to put in my actual address, zipcode, city, and state? Or should I put fake shit in there, and only give my source my address?

>>41535829
please respond

>tfw just ordered 200g of raws from china
saying goodbye to the ugl jews forever. fuck you canada

>>41536149
>not expecting this to get confiscated by customs

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>>41535829
>>41536146
there's no reason to try and eliminate the gyno before your cycle. you can just do it during or after. during will eliminate the risks of it getting worse if you fuck up your e2 management, after will also help if you fuck up your cycle and it gets bigger.

3 months of raloxifene at 60 or 120mg every day.

>>41536173
f r e e r e s h i p s

>>41536182
thank you

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My source has pic related for his shipping. Does this mean I just pay for my drugs and I don't need to pay anything at all for shipping?

>>41536192
>implying they won't find out where you live and arrest you

>>41536210
yes lol

>>41536218
>arresting consumers in canada
lmao

>>41536234
>implying they won't get you for intent to distribute

>>41536222
And I don't need to sign anything when it comes to my house?

Is there anywhere you can get melanotan 2 where you don't have to reconstitute it?

how long should I run my first test cycle of 300mg/wk? how long should I wait until starting another?

>>41536267
>intent to distribute with 200g
lmao try 10kg

>>41536282
you probably will have to

>>41536352
don't bother

>>41535898
There's nothing inherently sexual or pedophilic about that picture. I think you may have some underlying issues desu.

>>41536439
read the filename

>>41536384
>don't bother
care to offer any more information?

>>41536446
she is adorable though? wats wrong

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>>41536384
Are you sure? It's being shipped using free priority flat rate, and when I google it, it tells me pic related

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>>41536004
>tfw you'll never have a loli of your own

>>41536592
He's probably referring to the fact that you're only running 300mg a week
Up it to 500

>>41536614
>Up it to 500
what are the potential downsides of doing this?
why not start with 300?

>>41536376
What did you order?

>>41536654
The same side effects as 300 lmao except you'll actually make gains now.

redpill me on anadrol vs dbol

>>41536714
There's no redpoll. Eat the drugs figure out which one suits your needs better.

I just kicked out a girl after having sex because she told me her ex was half black

she was really really mad

>>41537203
We'll yeah that's literally something only weird ducked up people would do.

Normal people just kick women out for typical reasons like "you're boring".

>>41537223
trip on bimbo

it's not my fault I couldn't hide the literal disgust on my face

>>41537231
Not bimbo

Why is it that when I'm cruising or off cycle I'm lowkey into trannies, but after 300+mg of test for a week I find them disgusting? Has anyone else experienced this?

>>41537231
You made the right call. Not only do they lack standards but they go after mulattos because they can't get anybody else for some reason.

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>>41537231
You expect other people to control your facial expressions?

>literal autism

>Machester gets 'sploded
>>Muh lone wolf attack

Please can we just start physically removing Muslims already?

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>>41537446
"yes"

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>day 12 on anavar only
>balls still the same size
>cycle almost half over

Huh.. so much for that suppression....

>>41537493
Testicular atrophy =/= testosterone suppression

You're a fucking idiot.

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>>41537513
Is this what they call.. damage control? Can't just admit you were wrong and fell for the suppression meme?

>>41537493
and 0 gains LMAO

>>41537493
>anavar only cycle

All the negatives no reward. Why do you people do this

>>41537558
I'm bored waiting for my TRT. I called today and told them clomid is making me blind so I need injections so we have a appointment tomorrow to discuss this.

Anavar gives you nice pumps and glycogen even at a deficit.

>>41537584
I swear 60% of the thread is you talking to yourself about trt and clomid. You're fucking lonely.

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>>41537605
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh fuck off normie? Don't you have a club to go to...?

>>41537612
please stop posting

you're rapidly approaching alex-tier autism

>>41537584
>>41537605
It is getting a little tedious. I don't come to /fraud/ to hear about steroids

>>41537612
That's supposed to be derogatory but you're pinning male sex hormones in an attempt to be more like me.

Your cognitive dissonance is funny.

>>41537519
>countless blood tests verifying that anavar suppresses your natural testosterone production


HURR BUT MUH NUTS

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>>41537635
I pin for lolis you dumb clubbing ape.

>>41537513
what do you think causes the testicular atrophy during aas usage?

he's just taking fucking clomid so of course he's not as suppressed.

>>41537645
It this is the guy waiting on TRT his nuts might already be tiny lel

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bimbo seems to be lashing out without his trip since that anon spammed his gay porn stills

>>41537677
What kind of pathetic "straight" man gets fucked in the ass for cash? So sad to see, I would be cranky too if I knew that would be on the internet forever.

>>41537689
>straight

did u miss the part where he likes getting held by his gf like a little baby and breastfeed from her daily? dude is 100% a submissive little queer, the lifting is just him overcompensating for his submissive tendencies.

my knees hurt after leg pressing today for the first time in a while

they don't hurt on squats tho wtf

>>41537689
I wonder what his kids will think of him one day.

>>41537831
he'd probably gets jealous if he saw his wife breastfeeding his son. dem mommy issues.

>>41537677
This is really old. We all know he did gay porn and he's talked about it extensively.
Summer pls go

>>41538035
bimbo just stop this is getting embarrassing..

>>41537666
I would pin that loli vagina with my dick if you know what i mean hehe ;^)

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>>41538208

Going to be starting a cycle soon @ 19. 250 mg a week for 12 weeks. Doing it for college sports and athletics. During summer and offseason, it is not tested for. Is a clomid and nolva PCT okay for a 12 week 250mg/week? Planning on taking the clomid and nolvadex 2 weeks after last pin for 6 weeks, then staying off until this time around next year.

I understand cycling is dangerous for anyone under 25. I am very developed, happy with my height, voice, balls and everything else. I know 1 17 year old that is on test and deca right now going for football, and 3 other kids all under 18 that cycle steroids with little or minimal PCT.

just started with oxandrolone, 40mg, gonna go for about 2 months, when should i expect to notice difference in strength?

>>41538262
>250 mg a week for 12 weeks
Bump it up to 500mg, increase the cycle length to 16 weeks since it takes 4 weeks for Test to kick in
>Is a clomid and nolva PCT okay for a 12 week 250mg/week?
Nolva at 40/40/20/20 is all you need
>I understand cycling is dangerous for anyone under 25
No it's not

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Homebrewing today (orals)

>>41538499
>not making caps
y?

>>41538507
Pros: Any dose you want, good for splitting a few times a day.

Can dissolve some oil in with the propylene glycol I think to help absorption

Cons: Tastes like death, need flavouring concentrate like ceretropic used to use.

Is deca the best for joint pain?

>>41531656
>>41531610
>>41531511

Forgot to say, you could take ITPP which will enhance your ability to do cardio and just do a bunch of cardio too. Doesnt seem to be any sides or risks associated with that one.

>>41536297
No it only lasts 3 or so months reconstituted

Do you guys think running 10mg nolva a day alongside 50mg anadrol would prevent gyno

have huge pip in quad, like I'm limping

do I train or no?

>>41538575
Could you take it if you have a (temporary, non fatal) heart condition? I need to do cardio to cure it and I was wondering if this could help.

>>41538829
All ITPP does is help red blood cells release more oxygen, which improves your cardio ability.

>>41538850
How good is it, and would it stop my legs from tiring out so quickly on a bicycle?

>>41538865
It is very good for endurance. And yes it should, because you will stay aerobic for longer before going anaerobic.

>>41538575
>>41538850
Also, is it legal?

>>41538886
Depends where, obviously banned in sports, and was abused in horse racing.

Youll have to look up your country's law on the matter, Im not from the U.S. so I dont know where to begin, all I can find is that it is banned in sports.

Doing Clomid and Nolva PCT for 500mg test e weekly, have asin on hand for AI. 18 years old and trying for D1 school. I'm 6'2" 180 10% bf. My brother roided when he was in the marines and is 32 now with normal test levels and healthy. (19-20 yrs old)

>>41539016
ok thanks

>>41539016
>6'2" 180

lmao skelly

>>41539016
Thank you for the information. I'll be sure to put it in my scrap book.

>>41524564
Shit niggers. I'm at the lowest end of normal testosterone production so I can't get a fucking prescription. I feel like shit. I started lifting with my friends about 6 months ago, and they've all made some impressive noob gains while I only got a marginally better body. Is it too early to roid? I feel like I've wasted 6 months of my life in a pointless pursuit

>>41539160
>Is it too early to roid?

Depends how old you are.

>>41539160
How close are your levels to getting a prescription?

>>41539170
21 next month. Leddit wiki says I shouldn't start until I'm 25 but other internet sources say it's fine to do it after turning 21.
>>41539176
Been to two doctors both basically said "tough shit, you're really close but not enough". Will go to a different one tomorrow hopefully I'll have better luck

Hourly update on my anavar cycle day 12 - my first real big vein is popping out on my arm. Never had any vascularity before. Excited for the next 2.5 weeks.

>>41539267
If you're happy with your current height, just do it.

>>41539267
You could take Ostarine to suppress your test enough to get a prescription if you want it.

Can we do dnp sauce talk here?
>imblying

>>41539267
I started at 19 and never came off. 21 now with no related health issue... for now.

>>41539160
What are your lifts like? You sound like me

>>41539352
Won't I fuck up my hormone levels even further?
>>41539457
How were your hormone levels initially? How long had you been lifting? Also how bad were the stretch marks lel

>>41539474
Squat 120 lbs
Diddlys 135 lbs
Bench 105 lbs
OHP - very low
7 month progress, I'm shit, I know

>>41539485
>Won't I fuck up my hormone levels even further?

What do you mean? Of course you're going to fuck certain hormone levels up, you're injecting exogenous hormones into yourself.

>>41539511
Yeah, I mean permanently. Some websites say I might be looking at a permanently limp dick, and a fuckton of hormone related issues for the rest of my life if I start too young. I'm scared, anon.

>>41539485
>hormone levels
normal-normal 550ish irc
>lifting
strength program since 15 for rugby. hypertrophy since 17
>stretch marks
I was 6'3" (maybe 2, i do metric system but around there) when I started so i had marks from growing. from starting gear cunt my lats, tris, bis and shoulders are some tiger striped shit. plus im super pale

>>41539535
It's possible but very unlikely. There's no way to know. Most permanent problems arise only in extreme cases, people who are using AAS for very long periods, in massive quantities and not taking care of themselves properly.

>>41539509
Starting lifts? Male? Body mass?

>>41539541
>>41539541
So you actually had a decent body before starting, yes? I don't want to look like a fucking tiger either, so I guess I'm stuck with shit growth until I get a semi decent body I can then start pumping full of test-e. Thanks anon.
>>41539564
You've been a really helpful dude, thanks. Hopefully you'll be around when I start juicing. Good luck with your cycles anon and thanks again.

>>41539593
I was looking okay by the time I was 18ish. My issue was I didn't know how to eat. Quality or volume. That's when things took off. But i had the foundation yes. You can control your rate of gain. I am seriously only doing 250mg of test e and ifind it to be sustainable.

Anyone alternate between orals? Like Anadrol one day, Superdrol the next, the back to Anadrol the day after and so on?

>>41539807
That sounds retarded.

>>41539820
So do you bb

Would you run low dose test with trest cycle? I know it is an effective replacement, just going for weeks with zero test on the BW is disconcerting.

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