/FAT/ General

It is hard to keep my calories up with Keto. I have to put fucking cheese on everything.

ON SCHEDULE AND UNDER CALORIE BUDGET

>>41448161
diet sodas aren't bad senpai

>>41455359
That's exactly why I asked people what they ate. I'm worried 8 just won't eat enough if I start keto.

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My sleep schedule is all fucked up.

I'm gonna take some tylenol PM in a few and hope to pass out then hit the gym

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Donating a wojak pls post more

I want to eat so fucking badly

>rdi is 2040
>burnt 4500 today according to fitbit and MFP

T-this wont kill my gains will it l-lads? I had a killer bicep workout this morning

How was your progress last week?
What could you do to improve?
What advice would you give a person just starting?

>>41455538
how fat are you?

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Just discovered that I can grilled banana's and stuff them with mini chocolate and marshmallows. I feared I opened Pandora's box after having one.

>>41455603
Make protein powder banana pancakes. Shits amazing!

>>41455562
>fat
>not tall

manlet detected

>tfw losing weight after a long stall and not doing cardio anymore
>hit a 10lb pr on BOR today on my sets of 5
177 this morning. gonna start back with cardio tomorrow as a warmup for skwats.

>>41455342

Getting ready for my daily 4.5 miles in an hour around 6am-630am.

196lb on the scale this morning. Aiming for 182lb currently, may change this to 168lb @ 182lb.

I have been taking advantage of dr oetker £1 off pizza vouchers for £1.50 pizza. £0.50 for a 860 calorie pizza every day. Top it off with some coffee, fresh fruit, low calorie hot chocolate and If I get really hungry tonight I can have a grilled chicken breast with fried veggies and sauce.

When the frozen pizza offer ends I'll be moving over to flank steak and peppers/onion with soy, garlic and ginger. £9/kilo for flank steak is going to add up quickly compared to £4/kilo for chicken.

Anyone paying less for steak in the UK. How much should I be paying, what's the best I can do. Preferably something I don't have to cook in a slow cooker. I can't be eating ground beef.

Weigh-ins on Friday for the /fat/ weight loss contest, lads and ladies. Remember to get your shit in on Friday and that the cut-off for weigh-ins is Sunday 10:00 CST.

Anyone who got DQ'd on the first weigh-in is free to do it do it on this coming Friday. If you miss 2 weeks in a row, I'm gonna assume you forgot the contest or don't want to participate and retire your name.

I'm outta town until then, so good luck on the cut and see you Friday.

>>41455771

Is there a sign-up for this?

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>>41455603
I like to do this in the morning:

1 banana
1 scoop of vanilla protein (only on gym days, when I don't go I leave this out)
1 serving of oatmeal (not the sugary shit, old fashioned oats)
1 cup of ice
1 blender

It is fucking delicious, bananas are amazing somehow

>>41455875
1 cup of milk / almond milk too

I always leave this out somehow

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>lost 10 pounds so far
>been holding steady at 1500-1600 kcal a day
>constantly feeling hungry

When do the cravings stop? What can I do to stop this?

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>tfw accidentally 4 whole cups of butter

>>41455932
Smaller meals. Pace yourself. I'm fortunate to never be hungry in the morning so I hold off on eating for a few hours. But the last 5-7 hours I'm awake fucking suck as I'm always craving and I try to stop eating at least 3 hours before bed.

Try chugging a water or two when you're really feeling hungry and don't want to eat.

>>41455538
>burnt 4500 today
Unless you ran a marathon I fucking doubt that

>>41455359
Such a good problem to have tho

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>cute girl at the front desk scans my membership card
>"Enjoy your workout!"
>"y-you too."

Fuck

>>41455771
Dspot here, 249.8 as of Sunday. I may have to drop out due to going to a camp job for work. Not sure if there will be a gym or scale there, and absolutely no control over the food, only the amount if it I eat... =(

Will update Friday either way

how the fuck do you guys deal with leg cramps
i get some that last for waaay too long and they are reoccurring

>>41456040
Drink water, stretch

>>41456040
Like charley horses? You need more potassium.

>>41456047
>>41456056
Thanks

>>41456040
Potassium and sodium. Also drink water fucking dehydrated bitch.

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>>41455342
Last Monday I was 323.6. I made the goal to lose two pounds in a week. I cut the calories. I hit the gym after work everyday.

I fuck up and indulge over the weekend. First with my boys watching the fights. (Wings)

Then again the next day with my mom when I took her to brunch (bloody maries and bread)

I just weighed myself.

321.0

I'm doing it lads. See you next Monday when I'm 319.

Should I try potassium supplements?
I've been using that fitness app and it seems like I only get maybe 2000 mg of potassium tops. How can i get more?

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>lost 2 kg due to illness
Now I realize losing weight due to "starving" (No apetite during illness, and couldn't really eat because of my throat) isn't really healthy but as long as I don't binge eat and keep my cut, I shouldn't gain that weight back right?

I know it's not that much weight but I've been stuck lately on the scale.

>>41455932
1500 is to much. I tried as well. Unless you are already fairly thin and shooting for those last extra 10 lbs stick to a standard 2000 calorie diet and add some exercise. I'm a fatass, I weighed 236, so far in a week on a 2000 calorie diet and light exercise from work I've lost 4 lbs in a week.

>>41456415
That won't hold for long though. I was 237 a month ago. I was dropping weight fast for a little over a week at around 2,000 cals a day. I stalled after my first 10 or so pounds though. I've dropped down to 1,700 the last 3 weeks and have drank nothing but water. Now down to 215

>trying to cut
>already at 2000 cals before 1 am

Should I actually kill myself

>>41455932
Only fasting can combat cravings. I'm not being a shill here, dead serious.

>3 days ago 87.1
>want to hit 86.9 so badly for psychological reasons
>2 days ago 1200 kcal deficit
>drink a lot
>wake up yesterday
>didn't shit
>87.4
>1050 kcal deficit
>drink a lot
>wake up this morning
>still didn't shit, somehow don't even feel the need to pee

I hate this... I want to see 86.9

>>41455724
Bro it's nice to get your macros n shit but you know the fats in those pizzas that allow them to be frozen is fucking horrible for your body

for meat go to your local butchers and haggle cause the supermarket is a lot more expensive, I dont know how much meat is as I'm in Aus atm but watch your saturated fats bro

>>41456271
I started at 331 lad. You're gonna do this shit like none other. You got this.

t. Down to 240

>eat at 500 calorie deficit
>weight myself today
>dropped 4 lbs
What the fuck did i lose muscles ?

>>41456519
This. I find I get less hunger pangs on the days where I have to scoot out the house and have just a shake and banana for breakfast

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>>41456005
Different anon here, but I've been wondering about that.

How accurate is fitbit? I appreciate having some measure, but the calories burned count doesn't ever match up with what it says I'm burning during exercise.

I walked a lot Sunday, but the recorded walks are only like 2271 cals

>>41456415
I'm 176 going on 173 eating at 1450. It's no fun but it's very doable.

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>>41455342

Is ketogenic water-fasting like this kid a real thing or is it a meme: https://youtu.be/E484qiQXxzM?t=1

I wouldn't go 28 days but im a 40% bodyfat ameriburger and figure a properly executed 7-day water fast would do me well.

Any thoughts?

>>41456731
Just eat less than you consume. It's no rocket science

>>41456731
I don't buy these videos for a second.

>>41456731
Water fasting works and heals the body in many ways. It is dangerous though so you must be cautious. Take it slow. Combine IF with Keto for amazing results.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE

So... Im down at 82kg from 116kg. Im having real trouble controlling myself the last weeks. It seems like since I passed 85kg, my body is fighting the weight loss with all its power, making me extremly hungry and giving me cravings. I still have more bellyfat, and need to lose more weight, but Im not sure how much longer i can fight this.

>>41456731
>>41456743
im testing it myself

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11Xi1XPMRJB6A9Ws04kNPd2V0ScMmtRovOHmJmMCxVTk/edit?usp=sharing

>>41456824
I don't know if this will be controversial, but just use portion control, count your calories, and keep exercising.

Eat a burger or some chips or a dessert or whatever. But keep it within your calorie count, if you can. Don't just binge.

Eating unhealthy foods isn't ideal, but don't think of it as something you must constantly struggle against. In moderation, it can't hurt you if you maintain everything else properly.

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>>41456852
>tfw eating at 1400 calories
>love burgers
>one single cheeseburger takes up over half of my daily calories, not even including fries

>>41456824
I seem to have a similar problem, down from 110kg to 85 and been stuck here for like 2 months.
I'm also wondering how much I'd have to weigh for any abs to start showing,

Dang, down to 185lbs now. Havent used a scale since like last yr when i was 240.

I dont work out and didnt change my diet outside of dropping all drinks besides watet, honestly wondering if i have a medical condition causing me to lose weight. 50 lbs seems excessive for just switching to water

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>>41456866
What kind of cheeseburgers are you eating?

A standard no frills fast food burger is like 300, for comparison

>>41456866
make homemade, its far better.

>>41456889
>mcdonalds
I wouldn't waste my money on that dog-food tier garbage.

There's an in-n-out just down the street.

>>41456852
>>41456867

Luckly for me, my scale is still going down about 0.5 - 1kg pr week. But Im afraid that I will fall off and gain it all back again. If I eat anything unhealthy, my progress stall, cravings go up and motivation go down. I went out for some beers last friday, and the cravings got even worse, and is stilk hell. This time have to be the time I stay at a heathy weight.

>>41456912
they're good but they're also a fuckload of work for small yield. Great for a bbq but the best part of a burger is the combination of all the elements: Bun, meat, cheese, sauce, and toppings. Without all of those you just have a janky combo.

>>41456664
Water weight probably. Enjoy the freefall while it lasts!

>bought 3 new shirts 2 months ago
>put one on this morning
>IT LOOKS LIKE A POTATO SACK ON ME

everything is so fucking loose and i can't buy new shit because i'm still not where i want to be

am i forced to run around like that for another 3 months?

>>41456924
>small yield
thats exactly what you need if you're in /fat/

>>41456932
Myep

Goodwill, maybe

Buy some new shit that fits and then give it back once you shrink out of them and repeat

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>>41456835
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/11Xi1XPMRJB6A9Ws04kNPd2V0ScMmtRovOHmJmMCxVTk/edit?usp=sharing
Bruh if you're on a fuck 30 day water fast you shouldnt be working out. You will run out of electrolytes and your heart will fucking stop. Im SERIOUSLY.

Just sleep 18 hours a day, go on walks, and watch that bodyfat melt.

If you feel "true hunger" deep in the back of your throat, eat a small slice of watermelon immediately.

When you come back from the fast, do the first 2 days with watery fruits. And lots of probiotics as you re introduce low glicemic load carbs.

BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD YOU'RE GOING TO RUN OUT OF ELECTORATES IF YOU KEEP WORKING OUT ON A 30 DAY WF.

When you break the fast, dont forget vitamin suppliments

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>peak at 340
>lose 120 over the next 1 1/2 years
>Pass a firefighter test but don't get the job
>stall
>continue to stall
>holy fuck where did a year go
>back to 250

Time to break the cycle

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>>41456914
In that case it sounds like you might just be wrong?

Even at the biggest estimate with a bun it isn't half. It's big, but you could fit it in as a meal if you adjust.

>>41456918
Yeah, I'm mostly stuck for now because beer is the bane of my existence, I honestly have no idea how I managed to drop this much weight to begin with.
Working hard to drop the quantities now, though.

>>41456866
>ate two homemade burgers with pretzel buns, 2 protein bars, and a wrap and still almost 1000 calories bellow maintenance.

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>>41456960

do it faggot

>>41456948
there's only one brand that i can wear because i'm 6'5 and their extra long sleeve tailoring fits me perfectly

also where i live you can only return clothes 2 weeks after purchase so i'll probably just get my shirts tailored

>>41456960
I'm aiming to pass a firefighter test too. Why didn't you get the job, man?

>>41456984
Competition, I didn't expect to get it but it was my first attempt in a long while of doing something long term for myself. It was a city firefighter position with 600+ applicants

It's a 10 minute test with a 50lb weight vest, did it in 8:09 and had to pull over on the drive home to vomit.

I went to a gym with a friend for like two hours and every time I go I think'll motivate me into using my treadmill at home and eating better to lose weight. But I've just been gaining weight because I don't know how to get in the right mind set. I was 195 last time I went and I'm up to 210 now.

i'm going to a restaurant today for a birthday party and i know i'll have something full of calories so i didn't eat breakfast today and will eat my breakfast for dinner.. but the dinner will be at 8 pm

HOW DO I SURVIVE NOT EATING FOR SO LONG

>>41456938
think about leftovers though


spend 3 hours for 4 servings versus 20 minutes for 4 servings. One clearly has the upper hand

>>41456988
Oh brother, I need to get in shape. I heard the last recuitment day in my country there were like 800 applicants.
Past tests have been a 2km run and pull-ups.

You can take it again, right? I bet you can make it if you have enough time to train.

>>41457015
Just keep yourself occupied mostly.
I wake up at 6AM and eat my only meal of the day at around 5PM, but work and hobbies keep me distracted from hunger easily enough.
And drink lots of water.

>>41457056
Luckily I'm in a job I like now, even more motivation for me to get healthier because I go to conventions to represent my brand and it helps to not hate myself

I know mine I could take again, not sure how yours do

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>>41455425

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rate my day /fat/mily

Pretty good, 20k steps.

Fasted till 3pm, protein bar at 830, final meal of protein shake and veggies/chicken at 1210.

>>41456555

Just back from run.

I've made my choice. I'm milking the 50p pizzas until the offer ends, it appears the offer is extended until the end of the month after just checking.

So 2 more weeks of 50p pizza. Maybe some 20p noodles, and cheap fruit and veg. I'll be living under £1 a day. No doubt I'll be sick of the sight of pizza by June. I have 175 takeaways delivering locally on just eat which are a lot worse, and I still have a freezer full of chicken and veggies every 3rd meal.

It's also quite satisfying walking through the supermarket past every biscuit, crisp, pastry, bread, cheese etc... To my frozen pizza.

The few quid I save this month can go towards a bench top freezer rather than this little thing i've got at the minute.

>>41457213
bro just down a load of milk, it;s actually good for you and it's cheap af, or get those fucking 1 quid chicken burger things from Iceland, they come in an 8 pack, actually I was back in england for 2 months in jan and there's a Thai green curry Mackeral tinned thing, just get loads of those

>>41457213
you are making a bad choice

>>41455932
>>constantly feeling hungry

Yup. My food cravings didn't stop until I was eating 1000-1200 calories a day for 2 weeks. Now I'm exercising off 500 calories on top of that 1200.

I started buying bags of carrots and just ate them things between meals relentlessly until I was full. I mean you can still pack on some calories eating carrots, but it's better than fruit. I was concerned I might turn orange. Drinking 40 calories hot chocolates and coffee. Also carrying around a 750ml water bottle with some dilute orange/lemon makes it easier.

I actually could eat a fish and chips with kebab meat and a bottle of coke along with a tub of ice cream, hd or bj, and not even feel like it would impact my weight loss since I don't think I could even eat the following day after doing something like that.

Problem is I don't want to, or know my bowels will punish me past the point of enjoying eating it. I think it's getting to the point where 1200 calories a day is the normal, and having a 1500-3000 calorie meals once a week provided I'm not gaining weight is going to be my goal.

I failed trying to count 1500 calories last summer btw. It's because when you give up you don't count. Lasted 6-8 weeks. What i'm doing now is eating 1500 calories because the foods that satisfy me are no more than 1500 calories.

20 pounds away from 200. Should I just water fast for a month? I've been experimenting with fasting and I've gone 4 days without food.

I've lost 70 slowly through diet, but I recently saw a YouTube video on some kid who lost like 30 pounds in a month of fasting.

I just wanna be below 200 for once. The last time I was below 200 I was 13.

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Whatcha eating /fat/? Nothing bad I hope

>>41457403
I hope you're meal prepping and not planning on eating that in one meal.

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>>41457479
Why not? Pic related

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who /psmf/ and diet coke here?
except the fatigue, eye twitching I am perfectly fine lifting 6 days a week.

>>41457823
So except for the bad parts you feel good? Imagine that.

What is psmf, and why the fuck are you drinking soda?

>>41457858
Protein sparing modified fast, basically controlled crash diet where you eat only protein, low amount of carbs and fat. You're supposed to train 3 times a week max but I think I can manage 6.
The fat loss is insane and fast, I lose what I would normally need 3 months for in maximum 1 while seeing progress in the mirror literally every day
Diet coke helps with the appetite and it has no calories.

>>41457881
Good call doing something dangerous and ignoring the advice to make it slightly less dangerous, for sure.

give it to me straight, is type 2 reversible? can't find a reliable source that isn't trying to sell me something.

Fat fucks.

>>41457989
Depends. How long have you had it? If your pancreas is just overloaded by your current diet, you can "fix" it by eating healthier, removing the strain on it, and thus allowing it to self repair. If you've had it for quite some time, chances are you've permanently damaged your pancreas to the point where it's either shut down or no longer functioning.

>>41456526
I just took a shit and i'm 86.3 now

>>41458008
Well I'm only 22, how long is "quite some time?", pretty sure I didn't develop it until I was 18-19. I've been eating healthy and losing weight for about a year now.

Finally a proper thread.

>>41456395
I use no-salt salt. It's full potassium salt and no sodium.
Then I use it on everything. Blood pressure is great now.

>>41456824
I know how you feel man. 80lbs dropped QUICK and then I got bad cravings. Stalled at one weight for over a month.
Now I'm dropping again. Don't be afraid of stalling.

>>41458154
Ehhhh I'm gonna go with a big maybe. Have you been insulin dependant for 3yrs? If so, chances are you're fucked and stuck with your diabetes 5eva man.

I know how painful it is, my father has type 1 and I've been super paranoid I might get it too

>>41458214
I've literally never taken insulin.

>>41458154
>>41458214
Different anon here. I was diagnosed two weeks ago with T2 but I know I didn't have it last year. I've lost 4kg since diagnosis at I'm not gonna stop.

But many sources recommend eating carbs, and some say keto is the only way to have a chance. Any opinions on that?

>>41458236
Then you should be fine; the fact you don't have to take insulin means your pancreas is still functioning, albeit potentially at a lower rate.
>>41458246
Do you have to take insulin? If not, you have a chance to turn it around. I'd say to just do a low carb, not keto, just reduce your carbs, and absolutely remove all sugar where you can. Give this a good month or two and see if your levels even out. But always take your doctors advice over a dog on the internet

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>>41455342
Currently 218

Was 250 at my biggest a couple years ago, progress could have been better but fuck it, I've learned things and tightened stuff up so shit's on point now

At least I hope so, what do you think about today? Will I make it?

>>41458293
No insulin. My doctor has me on metformin and two other drugs, which seems excessive but I'm not a doctor. He's OKed me for strength training and told me if I want to try keto it shouldn't be dangerous, but I'm still a bit wary.

My blood sugar was 77 mg/flour 4 hours after eating, but I don't have a glucose meter myself. This was done at the doctors office.

I'm hoping low carb and exercise does the trick, cause that's easy so far.

>>41455342

>Akwardly grab the bar
>Strain and curse as I do everyrhing in my power to lift myself
>Let go of the bar, beet red and sweaty
>Defeated once more
>Refuse to give up
>Determined to drop the weight to do my first pull-up
>Some time later
>Lost a lot of weight in a short amount of time
>Hoist myself up like it's nothing
>Don't know if it's sweat or tears in my eyes
>One of the happiest moments in my life
>Grin like a madman

And to think, all I had to do was to take off my backpack

>tfw I'm at the point where the quality of my morning shit determines the quality of my entire day.

Anyone else know this feel? It's not a good feel...

>>41459178
I haven't shit for at least a week now.

>>41459206
That's rough. But at least when you finally do poop you'll drop like 5 pounds.

help me i tried to do a crash diet but relapsed hard, I just want to eat the same amount of calories forever and improve, can I just do that? I am not disciplined enough to follow a proper cut/bulk regiment without losing my mind

I had some success with a 1500 kcal/day diet. I kept it pretty simple and ate a lot of chicken breast/brown rice/broccoli meals. I started adding in other things like pasta, and stopped measuring things out and my weight is creeping back up.

Guess I gotta go back to the chicken breast and brown rice diet. It was boring, but it was easy to follow.

>>41459279
it all depends of the calories you lose, if you lose 2500 calories, you can eat 2000 and still lose weight, so if you dont want to follow a strict diet what you have to do is a lot of exercise.

>>41459642
Cut out the brown rice and add more veggies. Brown rice is a meme as a weight loss food.

Holy shit, a month in and my resolution is seriously wavering.
Why are sweets so delicious? Why do we still not have low calorie sweets regularly sold? Can't be that hard.
Fuck. This is hell. I wish I didn't know how delicious sweets are.

>>41459681
It gets easier, man, Eventually your taste buds turn back into their former form and you become more sensitive to sugar. Things that are naturally sweet will taste better and candy and cakes will taste too sweet for you.

The difference in sugar usage in different countries is amazing, especially in global products. If you taste Cola in America compared to Cola in say Korea you can tell the difference right away. If you're American your taste buds were practically raped and it's not even your fault.

>>41459699

Can confirm, tried a sip of soda after 4 months, poured out the glass because it felt nasty

>>41459699
Not American. Can't talk about Korea, but soda here in Germany and in the US taste the same.

>>41459681
Find replacements. Bananas are my go to candy now.

>>41459681
Google "erythritol"

You're welcome.

Lost half the weight I wanted to. Interested in 16/8 IF... only question is whether I can take my supplements (Omega 3, multi vitamin, etc) during the fasting period?

>>41455342
>go on business trip
>pack oatmeal to eat every morning
>have lunch of chicken broccoli and baked potato
>go in hotel gym for .5 hour for cardio
>get ramen and gyoza the day before yesterday
>have beer shashilik, honeycake, bread, blin, mashed potatoes last night.
>co workers want to go out for sushi tonight, and have breakfast a different morning.

I can feel myself not making it

Just got down to 164 lbs as of Sunday, I want to keep losing it.

Do I have to go to the gym 2 times a day and eat very little for dinner to keep losing?

>family member passed away yesterday
>binge eat 800 over my TDEE

I think I'll just tack on that 800 calories onto today's log, and just stretch my remaining amount through the rest of the day.

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FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
Discovered 5 new stretch marks on my stomach today. Before these I hadn't got any since I was a teen
shit..

>>41456824
What method did you use to loose weight?

SW: 376, CW373, GW 250
Started ultra-cut yesterday. Lost 3lbs on first day! I drank a shitload of water too, probably around 3/4 * gallon of water. Literally had like 3 carbs yesterday. Still am not going to start counting calories until I'm down under 300.

>>41456969
Are you autistic? Why get a burger if you can't add cheese, bacon, whatever condiments etc you feel like. It's the whole purpose of indulging the craving. Just a sloppy piece of burger on a bun is not remotely appetizing.

Just get the beastly burg you desire and build the rest of the days cals around it. Especially if it's homemade, it's still relatively healthy

>>41455875
Gunna try this tonight. What's the consistency like?

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>>41460100
>Still am not going to start counting calories
kys

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I'm now comfortable enough to go to the gym in my sailor tank. Thanks /fat/. Still 30 more lbs to go but every day is better.

I hope you nerds are lifting.

I'm doing IF on 1800 a day.

Been doing it 2 weeks now, 18-20 off 4-6 on. I shoot for 20 but if i'm sleepy i'll go 18 so I don't try to sleep on a full stomach because it makes me feel terrible when I get up.

Yesterday I couldn't stuff more than 1k calories down so I broke the fast today after only 12 hours. Makes me feel bad even though I know i'll fast over 24 hours to tomorrow.

15 lbs down so far. IF really works for me.

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>>41460229
good job man

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Yesterday's totals.

>>41460113
Dude, I'm the one explaining to this other guy that he can eat a burger as long as he works it into his daily calories. Did you even follow the conversation?

Just broke up with my long term girlfriend and moved back in with my folks. Only plus side is i'm not binge eating when depressed now.


Anyways, maxed out at 380lbs last year, now 230lbs. Just got back from my jog. About to check the internet for a new apartment. Feeling real shitty right now.

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>>41460419
hey pal, life's shitty for everyone and sometimes people actively want to make it worse for others which totally blows but you've already lost 150lbs which is phenominal and you're managing to not binge eat because of your feelings you'll get past this and probably past many more grand canyons on the road of life so crank the radio and just keep driving brother

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Any improvised lifting exercises one could if they dont have Access to a Gym nor weights at home?

>>41460480
dips on your knees
DIPS ON YOUR KNEES

>tfw left shoulder is slightly injured and I can't do my upper body day today

fuck this life

>>41460477
I know brother, world will keep turning.

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> This is 300 fucking kcal

>>41460515
>this has shit macros and tastes like sugar cancer

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>>41458007
hey

>>41457486
>3 exercise calories

is that from chewing?

>>41460515
>there are 180 calories in a single Oreo

No wonder i got fat

>>41455382

Yes they are.

I have an unmarked package of turkey bacon. How do I track this?

>>41460690
Locate turkey bacon on MFP.
Find the highest calorie one and check out the full package serving.
Divide by how many times you split up the package.

>>41460690
with a scale and assuming that all turkey bacon has the same calories

>>41459878
Shit man, I'm sorry about your family member. My sincere condolences. How're you doing man?

>>41459801
>fish oil
enjoy your prostate cancer

as for all else, yeah theyre fine, even black coffee and unsweetened tea

>>41460100
>3/4th gal
>shit ton of water

m8...

>won't weigh myself until I poop for accuracy
>abs too locked up, too exhausted to push
Currently drinking a cup of coffee to help loosen things up. Anybody else know this feel?

>>41460852
Those late locked up shits are the worst, usually get mine after 12 and can't eat or weigh because of it

>>41460852
Lul all that liquid will just offset the poop weight.

Weigh yourself first thing in the morning, after you pee and before you drink anything

>>41460914
>all that liquid
It's a cup mate

>>41455932
Anon,

I've been on 1200 calories or less, while also working out at least 3-5 times a week for 93 days.

The trick is intermittent fasting. I do 18:6, but you have to work up to it. Start with like 14:10 and work up to 16:8. Once you do 16:8 for a few weeks it's easy mode. I can 24 hour fast any day I want now (eat dinner the day before then don't eat again til dinner the next day) with no hunger pains or cravings.

I have zero willpower, which is how I got fat in the first place. People call IF a meme, and I'm not a doctor or scientist so I can't say if it actually burns more fat, but I can tell you it makes cutting easy mode.

I started at 328lbs btw, so 1200 was way under my TDEE. 93 days later I'm down 50 lbs.

Give IF a try for a few weeks, but you have to at least make it to week 3. If you hate it after that, it's not for you. You are guaranteed to hate it for the first two weeks, so that doesn't count.

Godspeed.

It's 5pm, I have 300 kcal left to take in today, and I will do some cardio later. I will be able to excercise around 9pm

should I:

- eat now, run later
- run later, eat afterwards
- eat right before

?

>>41456271
Careful mate. If you just started cutting, you're losing water weight. You won't be able to keep up the weight loss if you keep cheating.

>>41460998
Depends on how soon you will go to bed after your run. I always make sure I stop eating at least 2 hours before bedtime.

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/fat/ I am failing.

Last July I was 330, last Saturday I was 264. Today weighing in at 267 after the gym. I know weight fluctuates but this is all on me.

I am starting to realize just how much I hate my family and how many members I have to put up with. We are a Mormon (well, some of us still practice) family with 8 members total in my family, tons of cousins, now I'm getting tons of nieces and nephews (while I'm hitting the tender age of 30 soon and will probably never touch another woman again) and along with my grandma the little ones are starting to ask me why I'm not married. Like I have no value unless I get married and have some children. And I'm starting to believe this, I'm starting to realize how much of a complete failure I am.

Over the week days I'll eat good and go to the gym. On the week ends I'm all alone and this last weekend I got angry and just started fucking eating. Eating like garbage. And it now shows on my scale. I'm afraid I'll do this again. I'm contemplating suicide honestly. If I'm not at my job or at the gym I have nothing happening other than staring at this stupid monitor and really wonder what my life is worth.

I want to make it. I've made progress, people at work have noticed, my mother says she is proud. Of course I'm going to miss more gym time coming up - sister is graduating, birthdays every other FUCKING weekend, grandma guilt tripping me into coming over and eating her food... Do I have to just up and move out of the shitty state of Utah or what?

inb4 "your not gonna make it"

my mum finally said something to me
>what's with the extreme weigh loss?
8 months and there it is

she doesn't believe me that I used to be 22st, even though there are pictures

>>41460100
That's dumb. Start now

>>41460998
Don't eat and run whenever you can.

>>41460611
No there are not. Maybe in a pack of 4, but not in a single one.

>>41460369
No, you're telling him to eat a shitty plain burger for 300 cals. Maybe a plain mcDs? That's not a burger. A real burger is gonna have 700 cals. Even my homemade top quality ingredient burgers push half a day's worth of cals.
It's not going to satisfy anything, and he'll continue craving another or something else

>>41460925
And your turd is just a turd

>>41461048
>/fat/ I am failing.
>Last July I was 330, last Saturday I was 264.

>>41461048
1. Move out of Utah for sure
2. You feel depressed because you're trying to fill a void in your life with a false religion. I know you don't want to hear this, but it's the truth.
3. I got married when I was 23, so I don't know what dating is like after 30, but I imagine it sucks. You're not worthless if you don't get married, and if you dont find fulfillment in your life BEFORE you get married you will try to find fulfillment in your marriage, which will only let you down, causing you to eventually fight with your wife and maybe even lead to divorce.

Find a secular therapist and start going weekly. Work through your shit. You're doing well with losing weight, don't give up. However, if you don't make mental/emotional gains along with physical gains, you're going to get fit and still hate yourself.

You can make it, bro.

>>41461121
This

>>41456932
If they were buttons ups you can get them tailors at your local tailor or suit shop.

Polos and tees you'll probably just have to replace.

Shop at Goodwill until you are at your target wieght.

>>41461048
If you want to make it you need to realize you'll have events like birthday parties and graduations regularly. They're part of daily life.

You don't just throw these away for the sake of losing weight. You plan around them. Birthday parties you limit yourself to one slice of cake, and maybe one cookie. No coke or juice, just stick with water. You can easily fit this in to your daily life losing weight, and you wont look like a prude cunt at a happy event.

>>41461188
So is it common to have a mind of a fattie trapped in a better body?

>>41461213
I actually officially resigned from Mormonism at 18. It's everyone else who still practices. I don't know if I even want to try dating after thirty because I don't make the bare minimum of 60k a year and have a thundercock and will support the three little shits some whore had before meeting me.

>>41461250
I realize this but this is just about every weekend right now. The next time something clears up will be the month of January after New Years is done.

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>show my ID
>has picture of myself as a fatty
>was 325, now 190
>"wow anon good job!"

Feels good man

>>41461305
>every weekend
And? Whats your point?
You go to the events and don't pig out. Whats the problem?

>>41461048
EVERY childless single person needs to be moving around the US, finding jobs and finding where they fit in. Don't take your adult freedom for granted. All that shit is GONE with marriage and kids.

>>41461318
Guess I'll just turn in to an asshole then if this is how it's going to be. It goes along the lines of

>"Oh Anon you are looking so good, I don't think one more slice will hurt"
>"Anon I baked this cake it took me a long time, I really wish you'd have some more"
>"Why are you not eating? Don't you want to be full?"
>"We don't get to do this stuff very often!"

Maybe it's time I just lash out and tell these fuckers to leave me alone.

>>41461355
You eat one slice/one cookie, then you say you're full. You need to be proactive in this.

After you've finished your slice and cookie, you state you're full and you had a big breakfast. Then apologize if you need to.

>>41460369
>this is why cico is shit

>>41460611
Each cookie in that package contains 45 calories. Of those 45 calories, 27 are from carbohydrates. Fat contributes 16.5 calories to each cookie.

>>41461048
you don't need nor should you compare yourself to others. you've made great gains anon , be proud of yourself.
try meditation , really it's not hippie bullshit.

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Can anyone guess my BF%?measurements have it at 19%

>6' 177 pounds down from 230

>>41461464
Who cares what your bf% is?
Start lifting and continue to lift.

>>41461541
I've been lifting for two months, just want to see how close I am to seeing abs for the first time in my life

>weigh 230 lbs
>drop down to 220
>still live at home
>mom trying to bribe me with junk food and candy because she thinks I'm going to starve
Help me be strong /fat/

Anyone else here eats less than 1k calories? Any tips?

>>41461646
Yah, don't eat more than 1000 calories. Usually works really well.

>>41461646
i do, but only because thats what my family does, im not sure what tips to give you . you just do it lol

>>41461646
keto IF coffee
water fast

>>41461646
>>41461675
you dont need keto or IF or fasting to eat sub 1k dude, my dinner alone is only 400c

>>41461305
You're still a fatty, but you're making good progress. Keep going.

Glad you're not still mormon, they believe some whacky shit and seem very fake projecting that their lives are always perfect, probably causes a ton of stress.

Over the next year, keep cutting, and find a way to increase salary. There are probably more opportunities for this if you move. Don't settle for someone that already has a bunch of kids. There are women who opted for a career first and don't have any kids. It will be more difficult, but you can find them once you're fit.

What do you do for work, anon? Making under 60k at 30 puts you a bit behind the curve, but you haven't had anyone pushing you to move forward for a while which is probably part of the reason why.

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>>41455342
Just shaved my hair and lost over a pound in the process. Time to reward myself.

>>41461372
This.

>>41460611
>TFW I ate a family size package of Oreo's in two days by myself.

I just don't care anymore, I know it's fattening. Like I literally ate probably 20 Oreo's in one sitting if not more.

>>41461355
Another option is to say that sweets or rich foods upset your stomach due to X complication or whatever

>>41461709
I am a transportation coordinator, if I keep at it I can land something in logistics which will pay more hopefully.

>>41461646
I've been eating around 800 a day recently. I just put off eating as long as possible each day.

>>41461662
>>41461663
>>41461675
>>41461704

Just wondering if people do coz of the whole "starvation mode" meme. I'm doing okay at 1200-1300 but feel like I'm at a point where I'm gonna need to amp exercise or cut more calories

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>i am down 50lbs
>gf is down 30lbs
>fit enthusiast coworker who liked me when i was chubby has become more open with flirting with me as my weight goes down and hints of muscle start showing through chub
>has asked me out on multiple occasions and texts me more than my gf does now

d-do i leave my WiP gf for a ready made /fit/ girl? its not a problem i thought i would ever face..

>>41461817
No, starvation mode is broscience.

>>41461748
Ok, so while you are cutting and working on becoming fit, work on your work gains (and don't forget the mental/emotional gains I mentioned earlier).

Ask to talk to your boss. Schedule a time where you can talk for 15-30 minutes. Tell him you have goals and want to achieve them. Blow smoke up his ass about how you see him as kindof a mentor or some shit and ask him to give you some additional projects or work that he thinks will help you advance to the next level. This only works if your work is already great. If not, get it up to a great level then ask to talk to him.

I manage people, and I can't tell you how many people have NEVER had this conversation with me, yet I have this very conversation with my boss every few months, who I actually do view as a mentor. At 23 I was making 35k/year. At 31, I make 120k/year plus tuition benefits for MBA school plus bonus etc. If you want it, you have to go get it, and part of that is asking for it.

BTW, don't ask for a raise until you have increased your workload *some*. The best way for me to justify a raise is to see an employee doing well, then giving them a raise with increased job expectations. If you ask for a raise without any effort, you'll probably be denied. If you ask for a raise after you've taken on too much new stuff, you'll end up over-worked and under-payed.

>>41461820
Drop women, get into men. You get the benefits without the flaws

>>41461820
Depends how much you like your gf. It'd be kind of a dick move and if you actually love her you'll come to regret it.
If you're just kind of with her and don't care, then sure why not buddy.

>>41461820
>being with a fat chick
>being with a chick that flirts with you when she knows you have a gf
>keeping women around at all

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>tfw celebrated 3 months sober today by recycling a couple of big old glass cider jugs and a belt into some pikey kettlebells

>>41461868
I don't hate her, but haven't wanted to be with her for about a year now. Honestly don't know how to break up with her after so many years together

>>41461910
Then it's best you do break up. Stop wasting her time and yours.

>>41461910
This.

I had one of these during/after high school. I was so comfortable with her that I didn't break up with her until like two years had passed. Two years that I could have spent banging other chicks.

Tell her you're bored and don't see yourself with her long term. Let her down easy, but then cut ALL contact. Otherwise you'll just end up together again.

Anything I could eat to make me poop? Haven't pooped in way too long.

>>41461964
Coffee makes me poop for whatever reason, try it

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>>41461964
get this ice cold and chug it down. flavor doesn't matter cause it all tastes awful. its what doctors have patients use before a colonoscopy. clear your schedule for about 2 hours after you drink it though. you will get some watery poos

phyluym husk is a good thing to eat e very other week or so, can give you some real long fibrous poos

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>tfw you just broke into the overweight range
>tfw it will take losing at least 30 more pounds to get into healthy weight

this is a good feel but also only a small milestone in a long battle

at least I'm making dick gains

My friends please help me out, i need alternatives to these foods
> nutella (peanut butter maybe?)
>subway cookies
>burgers

>>41462034
broccoli
bananas
spinach

if you can't do that you need to kys

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>>41462056
Oh man bananas rock but i end up eating like 10 a day

>>41462083
dude how can you their texture is so obnoxious

>>41462034
>>nutella (peanut butter maybe?)
PB fit - Look it up. It's not quite as good as peanut butter but it has the same taste, less than half the calories, and wayyyy less carbs

>>subway cookies
Look up sarahlynnfit on instagram. She sells a healthy cookie ebook. My wife has them and the shit she makes is amazing. You have to actually bake, though, and the ingredients are fuckin weird but end up tasting awesome.

>>burgers
Turkey burgers? idk man... you can have a burger patty with no bun once in a while, but if you can't cut out burgers then losing weight is going to be hard for you. Power through it, being a fatty isn't worth it.

>>41462032
>ick gains
tell me more

>>41462149
As your fupa goes away, your dick looks and feels bigger.

My wife and I have each lost 50 lbs, so 100lbs between us, and sex is way fucking better.

Still have a fupa though, so I'm looking forward to getting completely fit and seeing how it is then.

>>41462174
how much did you gain?

I'm average (6") now but weigh 280lbs. if I press my fupa in I get another inch and a half

>>41462149
general weight loss and jelqing

rule of thumb though is that you get half an inch back for every 40-50 pounds you lose

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>>41462197

>>41462197
If you lose the fupa entirely, you will gain close to that inch and a half.

voila.

I was 88kg today last week.
I am <86kg today.
I did cardio.
I was on a 1000kcal deficit.
I was on keto.


Why do you only have 500kcal deficit piggy?

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>>41462362
>500kcal deficit
I eat 750-800 cal a day, more than 1200 cal deficit

>>41462362
>>41462393
I eat 1000/day which is a 2000 calorie deficit

get on my level

>>41462406
I eat at a 1k deficit and then go for 10 mile walks

get on my level

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>>41462406
TDEE is 3400

Get on MY level.

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Lost ten pounds these last three weeks.

>>41462135
I'll check her out, thanks

>>41462454
My bad... its @sarahlynnfitness or @baketobefit

She runs them both.

>>41461048
Guilt is unproductive.That doesn't mean you should pig out and feel nothing, it means you should act how your guilt wants you to so you can satisfy it and it can leave you alone. Be your own guilt. Don't worry about marriage, you've got 5, maybe even 10 years left. As long as you're not too old for women who haven't hit menopause you've got a chance. Keep dieting, keep exercising, build your self confidence and go meet some people, just don't dawdle.

>>41462034
Salmon burgers. If you like mayo on them switch it out for lite miracle whip. Switch bacon for turkey bacon.

>>41462628
>miracle whip

I'd rather die

>>41457486
>no oil calories

Tread lightly anon

>>41463158
Ketchup and mustard then. Or whatever else you can think of to whet the burg.

So I just tried to count the calories I would usually eat on a normal day before I started cutting.

Dunking donuts every morning on my way to work.

Large iced mocha latte
plain bagel toasted with cream cheese
boston cream doughnut

1,080 calories to start my day.

Then I would usually have burger king for lunch (3 double cheese burgers and a >>>>DIET<<<<< Coke)
Another 1,080 calories (360 each) coincidentally.

Then for dinner we would usually eat out. Maybe panda express or pizza. Panda would be orange chicken, teriaki chicken, and fried rice.
1,240 calories

And to top it all off, usually a pint of blue bell krazy cookie dough ice cream.

another 800 calories.

4200 calories in 1 day, and my TDEE then was probably around 3000

No wonder I got so fucking fat.

I thought typing all that out would make me hungry, but actually just made me nauseous.

I do miss the blue bell ice cream, though.

>>41463239
This is a good thing. You can go 300-500cal per meal easily with a little thought and experimentation. Your gut's going to evaporate for the first few weeks.

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>>41463239
>mfw reading that entire list

at least you know better now

I'm at the point where I've reached my goal weight so I have to eat at maintenance. The problem is I got so used to eating at like 1800 calories that I can't eat the remaining 600.

What are some calorie dense foods that's not junk food?

>>41463322
Peanut butter.
Nuts.
Bread.
Oats.

>>41463293
>>41463307
Yeah, I've been cutting a little over 90 days, down 50lbs, never going back.

>>41463322
2 tubs of halo top per day for those double dubs

Former fat guy here.
I'm 80kg now and i'm here to tell you that it will always be hard. I relapsed yesterday (3 pizzas, ice cream, cookies...) and thinking about doing it again today.
>tfw you are fucked for life because you never truly recover from an addiction

To conclude on a optimist statement i can tell you that my life is way better now that i'm kinda /fit/ and it was all worth it

>>41463343
I'm going low carb so nuts and peanut butter it is then..

I used to drink a lot but I've stopped. What if I just had a couple of beers?

>>41463348
I have actually thought that when I get to goal weight I might mix half a pint of halo into my protein shake to hit maint. calorie goals. Is this a bad idea? I mean aside from the fact that I will go broke spending 35 dollars on ice cream every week.

>>41463370
>low carb
>peanut butter

Pick one and only one, anon.

>>41463370
>low carb
>couple of beers
>pb
anon beer is made from wheat you stupid fuck
Why are you doing low carb when you're not even trying to lose weight?
I was going to ask if you were retarded but it's pretty obvious enough as is.

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>>41463385
>>41463404

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Ate some cheap shit today
it sucks and i feel like shit

>>41463426
That's still 15-30 carbs depending on how much you eat. Whats your idea of low carb?

>>41460100
I started at 380 and down to 369 after past 2 weeks of counting calories and sticking to my diet and exercise, your a retard if you think you are going to make it below 300 w/o counting or if that 3 lbs wasn't just water/shit weight

>>41463426
What exactly are you going to eat with one fucking tablespoon of peanut butter? 1 tablespoon is not even enough to dip 1 apple's worth of apple slices in, you need at least 2 tablespoons for that.

>>41455342
About 60 pounds down from an initial 304, and I think I might be going a little fast, not quite 3 months since I started, been regularly trying to hit 1200 calories on My Fitness Pal allowing for the occasional splurge of 15-17 when I'm going out or whatever.

Lately, the weights been coming off even aster and I don't really know why, I haven't been doing anything extra really. And I've been having this thing where if I've been siting a while and I stand up, I get a little woosy and my vision goes a bit dark. Its only for a few seconds but it happens a lot....

What do you think /fit/ should I up my calories to regularly hitting 14-1500 instead?

>>41460100
You wont get under 300 if you dont count calories you monkey.

still can't get over the fact my mum actually mentioned it
didn't see that coming

bet she thinks I'm on coke again

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>>41463437
just ate one of these
it says 92kcal a pot but I don't believe it

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>>41463370
>low carb
>peanut butter and and nuts

braindead idea, no wonder why 60% of people are obese and 95% of people fail to lose weight long term. theyyy just love the fat too much

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>1700 cal/day
>30mins cycling cardio/day
>Keto
Is this a good plan for a 6' 200lbs guy? Should I go harder or softer?

>>41463707
Maybe

Also try more water and maybe try to look at your diet and see if there's any other key shit you're missing?

>>41464106
Well, what's your tdee?

Also lift. Don't be a cardio bunny

>300lbs
>2 months of clean eating
>losing weight fast
>work out ETA to goal at current pace
>ETA: 1st April
>16th of May: Not even close

guess I'm an idiot

>>41464171
About 2600
But scooby says cardio is great for losing weight

>>41464037

>thinks eating fat makes you fat

kek

>>41464188
Do you wanna be a dyel?

DO YA?

>>41464188
It is but you'll be a skinnyfat dyel when you're done.

>>41461312
>was 325, now 190

Very good job indeed m8

>>41464159
Water could be. On My fitness pal it specifically has nutrition stuff, plus I take a multivitamin, I should be all good there, only stuff I miss out on a bit is maybe Iron

>>41464106
1500 is should be max and do some strength exercises

>>41461312
>license photo is 17yo me
>been from 170 to 260 to 160 to 310 to 170 since then
wew

>>41461048
1. Understand how fortunate you are to be single and young. You have so much more freedom than those who have families.
2. Don't worry about what your family thinks. I know that's easier said than done but just try to let them understand that your definition of accomplishment isn't necessarily getting married and having kids.
3. You've made a fuck ton of progress and you SHOULD be proud.
4. Plan around events. Like others said, limit your intake of sweets and bad foods at these events. Or save a cheat day if you allow those and try to fit in at the party if you feel it's that important.

Fucked up. Been eyeing a chocolate glazed donut for a while and decided to get it. I ate it and I'm not even satisfied by it. Like, why do I keep sabotaging myself like this

>>41461642
Is your mom a fucking hamplanet? How can she think you're going to starve after dropping just 10 lbs? Unless of course you're water fasting or some shit.

>>41464498
Just one donut ain't gonna ruin ya

These cravings happen. Just gotta make sure they're not an everyday thing

>>41461048
Idk how to help you anon but getting away from the people who make you feel pain might help

>>41461642
my mom commented "dramatic" weight loss today
she asked if I was going to maintain now, I sad 'not until I lose the belly' and she rolled her eyes

not sure what her problem is

>been overweight my whole life
>come from a relatively thin family
>youngest of 3, my 2 older brothers both super skinny
>slowly watch my brother 8 years older than me slip into obesity over about 2 years
>i slowly slip into the early stages of obesity throughout college
>father always talking about how in shape he was when he was my age
>trying to guilt me and fat shame me even though he's now borderline hambeast
>fuck this!
>start eating healthier
>exercise several times a week
>counting calories
>drop 30 lbs in 2 months
>dad starts buying me frozen pizza, soda, junkfood
>takes me out to eat at fastfood restaurants
>try to order salad
>guilts me for not ordering burger and fries because it's on special

Anybody else experience shit like this? I'm not really asking for help since I have enough willpower to not fall for this bullshit. But it is disheartening. Luckily the rest of my friends/family are pretty supportive.

>>41460229
Oh shit I need that tanktop. Also, good job bro.

>>41464574
Have you tried talking with him about it?

>>41464574
Yes, pretty much the same thing here.
> Never been obese, but I've been a little bit overweight since high school
> My mom kept shaming me for it
> Move far away from my family for university
> Have to make my own food now
> Get to my ideal weight
> Every vacation, when I come back to my family for 1 or 2 weeks, I gain 5kg

>>41464574
My mom and dad do the same stuff to me.

>Be fat all my life
>Mom and dad fat shame me constantly
>Dad would make me cry a lot as a kid about how fat I was but at the same time buy me potato chips and take us to McDonalds every day
>Mom announced my size/weight aloud one time in a clothing store and got laughed at by people nearby
>One day decide to change my life
>Start dieting/eating better
>Mom and dad start buying me junk food and guilt me when I don't eat/want it
>"But your mom spent a lot of money buying you these and you're letting them go to waste?"

I just don't get it.

>>41457989

Pre diabetes is 100% reversible

Type 2 is probably reversible if its recent or borderline, but if its s long term thing it basically isnt reversible

People feel threatened by weight loss and want to make you cave on your diet so they can believe everyone is as weak willed as they are.

>>41464730
Yep.

>>41460229
that's kickass dude keep it up

/fat/ i ate over my limit by 240 cals yesterday (limit 2000, tdee 2500)

today i weighed myself and i was up like 1 pound

is it related or is it just some kind of sodium/water/etc bullshit

i log food accurately i swear ;_;

>>41464784
Look at your weekly average, not your daily weight.
You're good if your weekly average is lower than last week.

>>41464816
yeah it definitely is

i don't weigh every day but i'm weighing myself like every 2-3 days, which i probably should stop desu

i've been using mfp for like 70 days now, starting at 253 and weighing in at 232.1 today, i was 230.7 a few days ago

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AFTER 10 MONTHS I HAVE FINALLY GONE FROM 132KG TO 98KG

I AM SO FUCKING HAPPY AT THE MOMENT.

I LOVE YOU GUYS

>>41461820
Why would you leave your gf for some whore? The real question is do you want to cheat, and the answer is probably no. A bunch of drama for pussy, and honestly a holes a hole. You would just cum in this new girl and feel instant regret after you got to your senses again.

>>41464855
Aim is to get to 80-82 kg with muscle btw.

DON'T LET THE DREAM DIE
[spoiler]DON'T LET THESE SHAKES GO ON[/spoiler]

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im down 250.2 lbs -> 198 lbs

did i go past the point of no return lads? my goal weight is 170

i am 6'0

Is cutting carbs a meme or does it actually work?

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Cutting at 1500 cal/day (253 pound lardass looking to hit 176) without much issue but figured I should start training on top of that to not look terrible once i've hit my goal.
Is the routine advice pretty much the same for cutting fatsos, SS or similar until you start deloading too often and then going into a more advanced routine?

>>41464901
Cutting CALORIES works, you faggot

>>41464901
I dunno about macros but from just scanning shit with MFP i've noticed that carb-heavy stuff like rice is heavy on calories compared to how filling it is.

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>>41464855
>>41464871
Gj anon, keep going i believe in you

>>41464188
Cardio is great. Lifting is great. Both is god tier fitness. Honestly, lifting is much more enjoyable so if you can already do cardio you have a bright fitness future since cardio is boring af.

>>41464891
Most likely no. You may have a little loose skin but enough that could easily be filled with muscle and time.

>>41464935
Oats are super filling despite how many carbs there are.

>>41464996
>most likely no

thanks for the reassurance anon, that's great to hear

>>41464686
crabs inna bucket. they want to see you succeed, but not so much so that they become jealous and start feeling the FOMO

>>41464618
I've implied that it's annoying me. Of course I just say that I'm trying to lose weight but he insists that I can eat some garbage and still be ok.

If it continues to get worse I'll definitely be more forward about it. At this point it's just childish and somewhat amusing.

>>41465052
No problem. I'm 5'10 and went up to 310lbs and definitely past the point of no return, however, so far it doesn't seem to be too bad down at 215lbs. I only plan to get to 180.

At 6ft 250lbs you are probably golden.

>>41465083
impressive, i know you're probably sick of people being "proud of you" for it, but still, nice work

>>41464640
>>41464686

Are your parents overweight by any chance? I feel like a big part of it may be that their generation grew up with less access to junk food and fast food. But now that it's everywhere they simultaneously want to pig out while looking at the youth of today and wondering why we're so much fatter. They're just not putting it together.

At least your parents tried shaming you though. Unless they were cruel about it. Mine would maybe once a year softly suggest I eat a bit better saying that it would be much harder to lose weight when I was older.

>>41464829
I've been having the same problem lately. I think weight just fluctuates and if you're eating close to your limit every day there will still be some days where it either goes up a bit or doesn't change.

I went up .4 lbs the other day and had only eaten 1700. My limit is also 2000. But then 2 days later I was down 1.2 lbs.

I had this problem even worse at the start of my diet but I realized i wasn't drinking enough water and was maintaining a fuck ton of water weight.

so once I've lost the weight, what are the odds of it coming back?

they say if you can make it to 18 months without regaining then you're "cured" or something

>>41465251
>what are the odds of it coming back?
The odds of you sticking to maintenance calories long-term.

>>41465133
I'm >>41464640
My mom's not obese, she's slightly overweight. She's the one who fat shamed me.
My dad isn't, and he's something like 105kg. However, he keeps telling me that when he was young, he was as «thin» as me; but he got fat with the time, and that as I grow up I will inevitably become as fat as him, because «genetics». It scares me a lot.

My mother wasn't cruel, but I remember that when we went to buy clothes, she kept repeating «you're too fat» to me; and saying loudly my size or weight so that people could hear.

>>41465280
this

>>41465280
I can't imagine eating that much daily
it'll take some getting used to

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my progress being 6'2, 290 around early December on the left 250 on the right. weighed myself at 239 this morning :^) finals is this week and I'm going to be switching from a high rep DB program to strong lifts till i don't feel embarrassed at my lift numbers.

i-is this really happening, /fat/ ?

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>>41464901
what I like about low carb is that a lot of shite foods are forbidden. so there is no moderation needed . no breads , no sugary foods , no ice cream
and as time has gone on the cravings for these foods have waned. and I don't feel Hungary all the time

>>41465362
progress is progress

>that jersey
I tried on a jacket I haven't worn for ages today
it's a bit big

>>41460833

source

>ate way under tdee
>my bike got stolen
>can't sleep
>also I have somefuckinghow gained 0.6kg from this morning
>even if I only ate under 1000kcal and topping at 1500kcal
today is a bad day, I feel so filthy fucking fat.

>>41465582
Don't discourage. Shit day indeed.
>also I have somefuckinghow gained 0.6kg from this morning
It doesn't mean anything, average does

Thoughts on peanut butter while cutting?
>6'4"
>350 down from 460lbs

I have around 2tbsp of PB daily. I eat around 1800 calories a day (including PB). I'm also working out 5 times a week and work a very active job 5 times a week as well.

>>41465611
average last week was losing 0.2kg a day aprox.

>>41458379
We're all gonna make it

>>41465421
yeah, feels like I'm swimming in that one, gonna have to retire it and buy one a few sizes smaller

>>41458850
good shit man.

>>41465626
It's fine man, you don't need to try and justify it. If it fits in your calorie goal for the day you're good.

>>41459279
I did the same thing, crash dieting is stupid, don't do that again. Go on a reasonable diet, I've had tons more success that way and haven't felt like relapsing ever.

>>41461642
The strongest move you can make in this scenario to prove your sincerity, is the next time she makes a big unhealthy meal, don't eat it. Calmly go to the kitchen, make something simple and eat it instead. Thats what I did, in more or less your same situation and things got better

>>41459279
Use my fitness pal. Take the bottom limit of what you can eat without being unhealthy, then make a range of about 300 calories. Stay in that. When you get where yu want you can eat more because you're trying to stay the same weight

>>41465803
Things get itchy when people say "use my fitness pal" Most of the things i eat or cook aren't registered on myfitnesspal so i never bother with it

>>41465860
so start cooking your own food.

if you're eating out you can look up something similar and add 200 calories to it

>>41465860
you only have to add foods and meals once, then use them infinitely

>>41465860
You can literally add anything you want.

i was a good boy this week, i really wanna hit a new milestone in tomorrows weigh-in.

>>41465299
Yeah your mom sounds both rude and insecure. Your dad probably means well but he's wrong that it's inevitable you'll become fat. But it will become for difficult for you to stay thin.

My dad says things similar to that all the time but he eats horribly. He did an insane 3 month diet a few year back and lost about 30 lbs. After the 3 months he went right back to his old ways and is as overweight as ever. I have no doubt if he limited his calories he could be under 200 lbs.

In fact I have 4 uncles and all of them are nearly as big or bigger than my father except one uncle who is exceptionally thin for his age. He eats better than all of them and is essentially proof that my father and uncles are all over eaters.

So don't let your dad discourage you. You'll just have to try harder when you get older.