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/MSI/
Goals, Questions, Advice


Thread about improving confidence, mind over matter, not worrying about everything, relationships, etc. A fit mind can nurture a fit body.

Post pics or ask questions of anything related to improving ones self from mentally to aesthetically to physically.
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How do anons deal with loneliness?

It's found that I'm at my best when I'm lonely. But it's a shitty way to live your life.
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>>41450478
MDMA
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You want some self improvement? Leave /fit/. Leave internet.

You'd be surprised how much better your life gets
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>>41450521
How so?
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>>41450521

Not everyone is an omega basement dwelling neckbeard. There's literally nothing wrong with browsing 4chan.
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>>41450563
When you gaze into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you
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>>41450598
>Not everyone is an omega basement dwelling neckbeard.
This proves my point m8. You'll absorb hatred, anxiety etc. in a place like this.

>>41450563
Because being anonymoys fucks pple up. This place is pretty sad desu
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>>41450617
Woah m8
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>>41450630
True that, but there is good. Once I get all the he advice I think I need I'll drop 4chan, save all the cool stuff. It's made me over think possible outcomes with my gf.
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>>41450521
I want to leave /fit/ but what would I do? I can only stay at the gym for so long.
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>>41450690
go sit at a park and ponder life until it comes to you
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>>41450690
Anything else is better, really. Internet is the worst if you're lonely already.
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Get a good, hardcover copy of Meditations by Marcus Aurelius. Read that shit for 10-30 minutes per day. When you're bored, flip to a page and read a few lines.

This book and The Bible are the only self-help books you'll ever need.
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The first girl I ever loved cheated on me and made me afraid to care about a woman. Every guy I know above the age of 40 says to never get married. Half of them are divorced and give half their paycheck to their ex wife. I recently met a girl I really liked but it was never going to work out because she is moving across the country to pursue a career but that didn't stop me from catching feels for her and that killed our short relationship and I can't stop thinking about her. I know I should forget about her but I don't want to. Fucking sucks.
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>>41450413
What does it mean if a girl is only replying to my texts every 4-6 hours? Is she not interested? We fucked at the weekend if it matters
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>>41450828
1. nobody replies to a text that late for someone they like
2. don't text her for the next week. see what she does.
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>>41450910
How about just stop with stupid games and ask her out. Worst case scenario is that you will just dodge a bullet.
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>>41450910
>nobody replies to a text that late for someone they like
yeah that's what I thought. fuck me I liked her too. lame
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>>41450828
She could be busy. Playing hard to get. trying to distance herself. Multitude of reasons. Best bet is to just distance yourself as well. If she wants you, she'll be back.
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>>41450828
It depends on how she's responding. If she is responding enthusiastically she's is just playing hard to get and wants to make you chase her. Do not chase her. Don't respond straight away either. Wait a few hours. It's a stupid and annoying game but you should play it. Don't text about things that don't matter. Only text to set up a meeting or date.

If she's responding with short answers and not attempting to keep convo going just ghost her. Do not text her unless she texts you.
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how do I stop being self-concious in the club? I hate going there so much but I can't avoid it since every social interaction at first year uni always seems to end in some nightclub.
It's mainly the fact that my dancing looks forced and visible fucking white when I'm too aware of what I'm doing.
Shall I just get more pissed before going out or did you guys actually learn how to dance to get comfortable in clubs?
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>>41450828
this >>41450910
and if she doesn't reply, let that be the last time you talk or ask her if she has any cute friends to set you up with
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>>41450478
same bro. I constantly think back at the qt's who slipped through my fingers, but at the same time i get i become an antsy flight risk after i cum every time
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>>41450938
>Best bet is to just distance yourself as well. If she wants you, she'll be back.
Why people do this. If someone tries to play games with you, she's nort worth your time. Get someone who's more mature and balanced. If you want to hang out with that person ask her out.
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>>41450972
This
I cringe every time people suggest playing retarded acts as relationship advice .
What's the fucking point of having a gf if you have to play childish mind games with her so that she has interest in you? Literally useless.
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>>41450998
You don't need to gf every girl that you text. Sometimes you have to deal with some shit to get up in their sugar walls. It's actually fun when you know the rules
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>>41450998
>What's the fucking point of having a gf if you have to play childish mind games with her so that she has interest in you? Literally useless.
Exactly my thoughts. Think about what kind of a person you're after if you do that. Ofc it doesn't matter if you just want pussy. But then again playing and stressing about games is kinda weak.
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>>41450413
ive found that most habits or nervous ticks ive ever managed to stop doing were just replaced by something else that was really just a lateral move.
then i realized i have shit for discipline. and that was a huge cause of my being an all around shitty person. so im trying to figure out shit to do that exercises my willpower like a muscle. Ive found just doing things that suck helps so far. anyone ever dealt with this and have any tips?
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>>41451057
I'm trying to do something similar. I've found reading through askmen and seddit help if you find the quality posts, but I think dropping everything internet related might be the best bet.
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>>41451022
Sure, if you just want to bone and don't give a shit about the woman then obviously go ahead, not question.
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How do I get over my fear of dogs
Whenever I see a big dog barking and running towards me something in my head flips and I go survival mode and start running
This is very shitty stuff to do you need to be calm in these situations, but just cant help it
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>>41450630
>You'll absorb hatred, anxiety etc. in a place like this.
DESU i mostly vent it here, not absorb
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How do anons quit mmo's theyve played for 5+years.
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>>41450769
>This book and The Bible are the only self-help books you'll ever need.
lets reduce this to this book... bible didn't helped me shit... Meditations on the other hand became book of my mind same as Portrait of Dorian Gray became book of my heart
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Unpopular /fit/ opinion. The Classics are worth a read, but also worth taking with a massive grain of salt.

Read high quality contemporary fiction as much as you read anything else. Fiction is critical to development because it's the simplest way to intimately associate yourself with another's deep self. The other way is a relationship, of course, but those require time and nurturing.
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>>41450521

most underrated post.
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>>41451280
You spend as much time and energy as you need to accept that the mmo will never be as good as it was during the "glory days," and the best thing is to put those memories in a case and leave them alone. Smile because it happened, you know.

That's why nostalgia is such a cancer in the mmo space, and why people get so aggravated about shit like Nostalrius and legacy servers. They're literally in denial. They want so desperately to reach the highs that deep down they know will never ever be reached again, and so they get angry and put impossible demands out there, knowing that Blizz cannot possibly meet those demands.

That way, the nostalgia-folks can just blame Blizzard rather than accept the hard truth: that mmo was better in the past because of it's time and space relative to real life, and no one can recreate the real life circumstances they had in the past.
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>>41450413
Heres the best tips on becoming ubermensch, mentally:
1. Clean. Your. Room (or house). Your room is the externalization of your mind. if you can keep your house clean, your mind will feel clearer too. Cleaning is also one of the things that you always can do, and makes things better, but feels hard to begin doing. Once you start doing that, and you start tackling these little things that you can do but dont for some reason (the things you procrastinate) you can even imagine where you will be in a few years
2. if youre religious this one is easier. After every day and every morning, pray giving thanks for things you did or happened to you that day. Just appreciate what happened. If not religious just think about how gratefull you are that, for example, you got a nice gym you can go to and lift, and that you had a nice dream that day, or woke up rested, or that the weather ws nice. Youll feel satisfied with life much more than ever after a few days, not even saying about weeks
3. Meditate or pray daily, if praying, repeat a very short prayer and focus on your deity.
4. work on not doing the things that make your consciense feel bad.

this is how you become and ubermensch.
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>>41451466
Did you actually read Nitzesch's Ãœbermemsch?
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>>41451466
fucking jordanfags i swear
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>>41451617
I'd rather a bunch of jordanfags than a bunch of hedonists saying "smoke dope and jack off lol" but that's just me
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>>41450478
Watch Cowboy Bebop

It will change the way you look at loneliness
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>>41451753

This is a Taiwanese fly fishing forum. Everyone here as watched cowboy bebop.
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I can't deal with anxiety. I worry about every single little thing I'm not comfortable with. I'm literally worrying about something that's 3 months away and not even that big of a deal every single day. It's affecting my well-being and career.
What am I supposed to do about it? I'm better about it than I was a few years ago but just barely.
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Why is having discipline for mental work so much harder than for physical work?
I have 0 problems motivating myself for a workout, but learning unversity? Holy shit, its a chore.

I HAVE to ace my exams this semster or my life will go to complete SHIT and i will lose everyones interest.
I have 2 months to learn for 10 tests. I don't think i will make it, goddamn it.
What a failure I am, its insane.
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>>41451822
just give up
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How do I focus more on my uni work, I can't stop looking away every ten minutes or having a little song in my head when I'm working, as a result I have shit tier productivity. So how the fuck do I improve my concentration and achieve my set goals for the day?
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>>41451233

Dogs are dangerous

If a big dog wanted to it could probably kill you

If someone doesnt understand why you might be afraid of dogs the problem lies them them

t. Attacked by multiple dogs (live in shitty area)
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>>41451935
>>41451822
Somebody has to work the fields, work the register or pick up trash, just saying. Is that where you want to end up?
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>>41451993
I know i don't want to. I am good at writing code, i have worked for more than year as actual software developer (this studying alternates with work-phases) and I am literally as productive as other senior developers.

But this fucking studying breaks me. I wish i could just work as software developer, but no, i have to waste 3 years studying - something I am so shit at.

I think i need to get out of this room in order to study. This room is connected to comfort and slacking, I'll drive into some public library tomorrow and try my best.
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>>41450972
>women playing games
sad reality of life right there. the hot ones always play games. even the mildly attractive ones play games. gotta play back or move on to fresh meat.
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How do you guys keep your motivation to keep going to the gym? I'm just feeling so burnt out and bored with lifting weights. Should I find a new hobby for awhile or is there something else you guys do to stay motivated?
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>>41452280
Looking down and seeing how big my dick is while remembering how small it used to be before I exercised regularly does the trick
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>>41452280
Reassess your goals and motivation, remind yourself why you lift. For anyone down the bodybuilding or even just physical improvement route I'd recommend Arnold: Education of a Bodybuilder. Depending on how you look, it might be good to look at some goal body pics more often to keep you hungry.
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How can I train myself for combat? I want to be like a juicy warrior of the Varangian Guard but I don't know where to start. Is MMA a good choice? If so, can that be learnt in the Internet? Nowhere around me teaches it.
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How can I train myself for combat? I want to be like a juicy warrior of the Varangian Guard but don't know where to start. Would MMA be a good choice? If so, can that be learnt on the Internet? Nowhere around me teaches it
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>>41452366
get into bar fights. not even kidding
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>>41450413
Is anyone else obsessed with self image (physical appearance)?
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Models by Mark Manson for Chad mental gains. Not evening memeing.
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>>41450478
I just try to focus on the stuff that makes me happy. I try to get out as much as I can (go on daily bike rides) and try to make sure I'm doing things to "better" myself, learning new things, reading.

The worst thing I can do for myself is start playing video games all day and shit, then deep depression.

But damn, what I would do for a qt.
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How do people meet new people?

I'm starting to get to a point where I don't feel so self conscious, but I have no fucking clue how to meet new people.

And how do people with no friends find drug connections?
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>>41452517
Maybe join a powerlifting gym and compete or join some other sport/activity. Like cllimbing or BJJ/Submission wrestling
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>>41451541
no, this is my own definition of the ubermensch, by which i mean the perfect man or simply human being. Aside from that i practice lifting, try to live healthy, and not be a puppet of vice nor ideas i do not understand. To be independent basicly.
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>>41452424
Yes, I'm slowly replacing my wardrobe with new stuff, buying new glasses/contacts, and new hairstyle.
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>>41451057
Read Henry Hazlitt: The Way to Willpower. That might help. Its an interesting read nonetheless.
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How do I train myself for combat? I want to be like a juicy warrior of the Varangian Guard but don't know where to start. Would MMA help? If so, can that be learnt on the internet?
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meditation is brilliant but you must stick with it, also self assessments and finding hobbies.
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>>41452774
>>>/k/
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>>41452366
>>41452774
>>41452385
wtf that posted 3 times, fuck me please ignore
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what socks should I wear? (this is a mental thing for me)
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How do I train myself for combat? I want to be like a juicy warrior of the Varangian Guard but don't know where to start. Would MMA help? If so, can that be learnt on the internet?
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>>41452799
Comfortable ones
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>>41452591
he said how to meet new people, not how to have casual gay sex dawg
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>>41452774
you can practicemany striking moves, stretches and, of course, exercises alone. you will never test these or learn to be tough if you dont practice with otheers, you gotta take some punches.

MMA tauught at a good gym is the best, most practical all round combat to learn.
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>>41452801
Again
>>>/k/
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>>41452815
this to be quite honest familia
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>>41451822
fuck i cant do it either
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How do I train myself for combat? I want to be like a juicy warrior of the Varangian Guard but don't know where to start. Should I learn MMA? Where can I find out information on the internet about that?
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How do I train myself for combat? I want to be like a juicy warrior of the Varangian Guard but don't know where to start. Should I learn MMA? Where can I find out information on the internet about that?
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How do I train myself for combat? I want to be like a juicy warrior of the Varangian Guard but don't know where to start. Should I learn MMA? Where can I find out information on the internet about that?
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sort yourselves out. Watch Jordan B. Peterson on the Joe Rogan Podcast. it's on YouTube.
Thank me on the other side.
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>>41450961
get drunk or do drugs
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>>41451813
literally tell yourself "fuck x thing". Get angry at at, imagine it is fucking annoying you(sounds easy in your case)

At first you won't take yourself seriously, but eventually you will respond to menial shit instinctively with a "fuck that nonsense"

be wary though, because I got so good at doing it that I can now say it to things that have a serious affect on my life. Its not procrastination, because I never intend to do it. I see something, and I just tell myself "fuck that, I can't stand it"
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>>41450969
I'm starting to cringe at my old past just thinking about if fug
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Just found out my prom date likes my best friend what do?
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>>41451617
Jordan's advise is pretty good overall, but the meme swarm around him is annoying.
>>41453667
Fuck her if you can then outy, detach mentally
>>41452517
Social hobbies. Gym buddies, table top groups, whatever hobby you have find your local people who do it, church even if you aren't religious is great for meeting people.
>>41451057
Youre on the right track.
Cold showers, forcing yourself to a scedual, pre planning meals, not delaying on tasks that need doing, all these actions train the will.
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>>41450413
Practicing Therapist of 9 years here.

I'll answer/give advice to anyone for the night.

>>41450478
Embrace it, use this time to focus on yourself, a hobby or something you know you should be doing or would enjoy.
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>>41450753
>Internet is the worst if you're lonely already.
jesus fucking christ, this so much. It's destroying my life. It's a shame internet is required to get anything done in todays society.
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>>41450806
>Every guy I know above the age of 40 says to never get married.

Hey bro. I'm following the MGTOW philosophy and just prioritizing my education and work. 27 at the moment and I'm not a complete convert.

I'm unsure whether the females are the root of all evil but for the time being the philosophy has been great. I flirt and talk to girls all the time but since I know that I'm not going to take it further I can walk away with an ego boost and without wasting anymore of my time chasing tail - chase money and grades.

So I can understand where you're coming from.

A girl at my university is studying to become a nurse and honestly she isn't really attractive. If I was horny enough and could be more imaginative I could potentially have sex with her. Her personality is golden and she's 5+ years younger.

Love her personality, not so hot so unsure what to do. I'm going to just keep in touch with her but not escalate things anywhere. Tell her my career and education are important at this point. Wait about 1-2 years and then see.

Not sure what to think about the attractiveness thing as I"m basically a gym rat on gear. So... sigh...the dilemma.....
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>>41451935
you might have ADHD
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>>41454638
What causes men to want to become seducers?
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How do I get over Chad and manlet memes?
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>>41454728
Yeah man the girl in my original post was 21 and I'm 27. She's just now graduating college so this is the most exciting/uncertain time of her life. I wanted to get to know her as much as possible knowing that maybe when she moves away she might not like it or something and eventually come back and not that I would wait or anything, but maybe she'd come back at a time where she is looking for a serious relationship and I was still single. You never know. But I got black out drunk and told her I was starting to feel for her. That basically killed it. I'm not mad but seriously I was fucking hammered that's not exactly fair.

The whole mgtow thing is something I don't want to do but good on you for trying to live your life without women being the center of it. My problem is I know how shitty most of them are so when I find one I like I know it's a rarity.
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>>41454819
As with any role men transfix and turn their choices on, their past.
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>>41454868
>The whole mgtow thing is something I don't want to do but good on you for trying to live your life without women being the center of it. My problem is I know how shitty most of them are so when I find one I like I know it's a rarity.

Yeh, I'm not religious by an means. I believe in taking the good from any teaching/philosophy and using what works and ignoring what doesn't

The balance is key. You don't want to fall into a trap with a girl unworthy of your devotion and at the same time you may not want to miss out on the benefits of a long term romantic relationship with the opposite sex.

Some of the MGTOW converts are radical to say the least however those types of people exist in all parts of life.

Hope things work out for you. I'm out. Peace.
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>>41450413
how do you guys go about motivating yourselves to start up personal projects?

I'm not working this summer and i feel so lethargic, so im looking to learn how to code and learn German, but i can't motivate myself to do work if i don't have the need to do it. Like i can easily grind for a class, but now there's no sense of urgency.

help me out bros
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>>41453667
Halp me please
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Over the past 6 months, i've dropped vidya and eating artificial sugar to trade for podcasts, cooking all my healthy meals, calisthenics and no-fap.

My family is always mocking my choices but i still feel somewhat proud of myself i guess, it helps me feel superior to others despite me binge eating every few days.

I am having difficulty finding how to fill my time though. I end up just standing around doing nothing until i have to prepare for the work week.

Anyone else have drastic changes in their lives?
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>>41450521
Yeah just work 8 hours then watch TV and drink beer the rest of the day and get fat and stupid like everyone else
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I just got rejected by a girl that I wanted bad and I thought she wanted me too. I told her everything about the way I felt and it meant nothing. I just got treated like some loser. That fucking pissed me off at first so much. But now I have so much drive to improve that I know I will become something. It lit a fire inside me that I havent felt in years. I'm actually glad it happened now. I've hated myself for years and felt like dying but now something changed and I'm going to become whatever I want. Sorry I dont have much to contribute. But I know I'm going to do better.
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>>41450478
Work on hobbies and interests that you are passionate about. The kind of things that you lose sleep and miss meals over. I work night shift which leaves me with off days were I don't see another human for 10+ hours. I love it since it allows me to work on personal projects and explore myself w/o being interrupted.
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>>41455242
Its so fucking painful to be rejected. Like I am not good enough. Shits either going to kill me or make me into something better hopefully.
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>>41450478

Why are you lonely. Is it because you are unhappy and think that will make you happier? If you are truly happy you will attract people to you.

If you are happy with yourself aside from bonding with others you just need to get out there and expose yourself to people. You never know who can enrich your life.
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>>41455242
>iktf

I felt similar when a gf broke up with me, at first you change yourself to prove the others wrong, then you realize you have the power to do what you want for you and not for somebody else
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>>41451822

Youre bullshiting yourself and making excuses.

Getting to the gym and going to workout does require mental disc. Youre just making excuses for yourself.

If you dont start something to some extent the day you get it youre already sucking. Even if its a big assignment you at least plan a time table. If you can walk in a gym and attack some weights you can attack assignments. Attacking is how you shouod look at it this isnt a chore. This shit matters and it will fuck you up if you dont fuck it up first.

If it doesnt matter step back and consider finding something that does matter. People change and so do priorities.
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>>41455555
chekd
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>>41455127
good progress breh

don't let your senpai draw you back from your full potential

find an outdoorsy hobby to do with your time

If you live near the ocean, swim or surf
If you live near the hills, go hiking
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>>41455127
>tfw your family mocks your nofap choice
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>>41455127

start reading, get a library card and pick up a few books that catch your eye
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>>41455651
>>41455127

>tfw your family mocks your nofap choice

Made me kek as well
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>>41455127

Same. I decided to get a kindle so i can read on the field i want to get in. If you read a hour a day youd read about a book a week which would be about 40 a year.

Considering most people read less than 1 non fiction book a year you can imagine how far ahead that would put you of others in your field. Or just in general.
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>>41455589
unfortunately i live in a big city but i do enjoy the scenery when out on walks and such. might look into biking.
>>41455719
Just got a kindle from a friend like a week ago. went on /lit/ to see what they are about and they seem to have a good starting point for people who haven't exercised the critical thinking portion of their mind in a bit.
>>41455651
>>41455806
i think they're glad since they get to see me more. used to spend way too much time fapping
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>>41450413

Advice to all anons is to read as a pastime. No bullshit escapist fiction except as an occasional relief/treat. Read quality literature and nonfiction relating to topics of interest or utility.

Only downside is that if you stick to it, you will find yourself somewhat alienated from the sea of absolute retards surrounding you.
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>Gud thread OP
I want to start a business and get out of bartending. It's crazy monetizable once I've built an audience and put in the time and small-ish financial investment (roughly $4k). except that isn't 'small-ish' to me, as mentioned, i'm a bartender, it means shit hours not conducive to running a business and poor-mediocre pay. At what point does getting a loan and just going all in for as long as I can survive become a viable option, or to what degree do I transition from wagecuck to making my own money. eh idk.. not asking /biz/, they'd just tell me to invest in crypto or some shit
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>>41450478
agree if I start socializing everything else falls apart. I'm extremely sensitive to what happens while socializing and it stresses me out like no other.
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>>41450806
You can always kill your wife if she tries to divorce you.
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>>41450998
to get her, they stop afterwards.
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>>41451753
cowboy bebop is very real. They're all people huddled together not giving a shit about anything really, not each other even. They're all people sitting around for something to happen, and then it does. But it's something important to them that only they care about.
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>>41451813
eckart tolle - power of now

aka live in the moment.
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>>41452322
does loosing weight really make your dick bigger?
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>>41454638
I am a psychology student (bachelor) and want to be a therapist when I finished my bachelor+master. Can you give me any tips/tell me the most important things I should know about this journey?
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>>41454638
I have a very hard time talking to some people. I basically lose my voice, sometimes I can interact normally but any follow up I can't do because of anxiety. I've been accused of sexual harassment and have people avoiding me at work because I tried to socialize with them what do I do now that I'm scared to talk to anyone.
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>>41456894
>I've been accused of sexual harassment
what the fuck happened?
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>>41456915
I just tried talking to this one girl when I saw her. Eventually I got called into HR. I guess I looked at her too much.
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>>41456944
I also basically stopped talking to any women at work and just go to men if I really need something. It's been a bit weird since some of them have definitely noticed the change in my behavior. Some have come up and asked me why I don't talk anymore, but I like it this way I don't feel desperate or anxious when I know I don't have to socialize.
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>>41451233
Just learn how to act around dogs. Dogs bark for all kinds of reasons, but most of the time you can discern why. Most of the time they just want attention, or they're just protecting their territory. Learn to act confident and not afraid around them. Once they know you're not afraid of them, and they seem peaceful enough, let them sniff your hand. It's like an introduction for them. When they get more comfortable, you can pet them and maybe play with them. It just takes lots of practice and exposure. If, however, they are hostile, I'm not really sure what to do. It hasn't happened to me yet. Just be ready to defend yourself.
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>>41452076
You could become a web developer. I'm pretty sure that you don't need a degree for that
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>>41451813
Stop focusing on things that will happen in the future. Focus on what you can do now. Just the very act of trying to change something in the future gives you more control over your perception of that thing. As long as you keep being productive, your anxiety should go away.
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>>41452799
Unless it's for a specific purpose, always wear black crew socks. They almost always look good with whatever you're wearing, unless you're dressing in really light colors, or wearing shorts. They also last a while because black hides the stains.
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>>41450721
Is that it? What comes to me? An idea for something to do? A new outlook on life and eternal motivation to be productive? A quest giver?
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>>41454972
Do a little bit everyday. Since it's summer and you have nothing to do, do it first thing in the morning. After a while it becomes weird not to do it. That's how I stayed consistent at lifting and running. I get anxious if I'm too busy to do it. Also I've found that having a job is good for work ethic. If you have very rigid and fixed slots of time used up in a day, the rest of the day kind of molds itself around those.
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>>41450413
The only problem I have right now is bad posture. Do not take it lightly though, it is the worst shit I have ever faced.

>Cant breath properly
>bad erections
>tense all day long
>im getting insomnia because whenever I lay down thats when I feel the most pain, right now its 04:36 am here and I could not fall asleep eventhough I had been trying since 9:30 pm
>Feeling stressedall day long, cant focus and study
>Have to skip gym days because of how fucking tired I am

I have shouldered this since last year, it has been worse, I used to feel more pain before, but now I cant breath properly and can not fall asleep, only when I am exhausted and my sleep is very bad quality.

Seeing a physical therapist, slowly (very slowly) getting better, but its starting to break me. The lack of sleep is breaking me, I feel like I am reaching a breaking point, almost want to quit my internship and try to relax more.

I am afraid I won't make it.
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>>41455533
>I felt similar when a gf broke up with me, at first you change yourself to prove the others wrong, then you realize you have the power to do what you want for you and not for somebody else
You've literally summed up the last year and a half for me. I went from crying on the floor of my apartment every night, getting panic attacks from being afraid to die alone, to lifting and running for tough mudder this summer.
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>>41450413
What books should I read to help overcome anxiety/depression? Please help
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>>41456959
That's terrible. You should look for a better job.
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>>41455555
Powerful get
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>>41456782
You're not even guaranteed to be safe with a prenuptial agreement. Judges have thrown those out before.
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>>41450478
>It's found that I'm at my best when I'm lonely. But it's a shitty way to live your life.

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one feeling this way.
I find it very conflicting, because I truly feel like I'm at my peak when I'm alone. I often spend time alone to study and read and just generally improve myself mentally and physically. However it's conflicting because in terms of long-term goals, I want a family. So I've had a girlfriend for 4 years, and I want to marry her, but at the same time we're different in the way that she wants to spend time together all the time, whereas I'm content just seeing her once or twice a week.
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>>41450961
Are you me?
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>>41457805
Why would you marry someone if you don't want to see them every day? You know if you marry her you'll have to live with her right?
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>>41456539
are you me?
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>>41450617
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>>41455555
ultimate quints of truth
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>>41458483

Not the anon but I feel the same way although I don't have a gf.

It's a strange sort of affair being a loner. There are some days you feel great being alone and able to focus on yourself and your goals and there are days that you feel overwhelmingly sad about being lonely.
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>>41451822
You obviously just don't enjoy uni, it's hard to motivate yourself for something you don't like.
I study pol sci which is pretty useless but I enjoy it so I don't find studying hard
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>>41451022
>>41450998
>>41451023
You play the game to get them.
Once you've got them the walls get broken down and you don't have to play the games.
You often make your own games between you based on how you both played the initial ones.

Those games you make yourself are special and are how you interact and make a relationship - even if they're just inside jokes that remind you of how happy you were to play and win at first.
Before it lost it's charm, and you descend into a really boring mediocre life where you just don't know why you're not happy with them since it was all you wanted before.
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>>41452076
Learn by doing.
Figure out what the point of what you're meant to learn is (i'd come up with a relevant example if i could code) and do it.
Then look back at what you were meant to study and it'll make sense.
If that fails - at least you can actually code, so go to the employer, your Proffessor or whatever and show them you can actually do the work.
If they're any good (which someone has to be) they'll take you on.
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>>41452280
Watch motivational videos - i like looking at Strongman stuff - i find it much more of a goal than all the aesthetics and shit.
Do different workouts and lifts - find ones that feel good to you. I got bored of SS, Brosplits and standard lifting, but had really good obsession phases with Bodyweight and strongman style (one armed dumbbell press pretty much carried me from 80kg to 95kg bodyweight - such yoke)
Train with a friend.
Take up a sport - i like MMA and Rugby, but almost any sport will help, and allow you to see the real life improvements that lifting does for you.
Sports also usually give you an acceptable way to show off and chest beat with other people.
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>>41452385
You can learn the very basics from the internet - you'll need to be able to prqactice it - get a punching bag and gloves/hand wraps.
Getting a partner to train with is much much better. Then you can practice takedowns and grapping a lot better.

But both are shit and won't do much compared to actually training with a real instructor and gym.

Take up a different martial art?
Boxing, Kickboxing (Thai is best imo)
Wrestling (particularly if you're Amerifag)

MMA is Mixed Martial arts - if you can't train MMA, then train other martial arts and mix them.
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>>41455127
HOW DID YOU QUIT VIDYA

Fuck my ass boys, I've done it before, but games have been sucking up my precious time lately and I love them. Injustice 2 just came out and I'm having a fucking crisis on whether or not to buy it. I know I'll have a great time with it, but I know it'll eat into an insane amount of my time. I should be reading (recently got into classics, trying to work through Moby Dick) or drawing, but god damn I love me some good competitive vidya.

If any anons have successfully quit the habit for good give tips pls
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How can one change some side of his personality?
I don't feel like you can do it knowingly but I'm pretty sure there's a way too.
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>>41457448
I have most of the same problems - but from hemorrhoids :)
Pain doesn't stop you doing those things (except maybe sleep but there's ways round that)
You just have to have the will power to keep going and do the shit anyway.
Don't use pain or 'stress' as an excuse to be unproductive.
Work on fixing the problem, but work on getting through it anyway.
Then when you're better - you'll find it even easier and be even more productive.

Also - smoke it up man, helps with the sleep.

And meditate.
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>>41454845
By interacting with real people more often than people on 4chan and realizing this board is purposely trying to poison your self esteem for keks.
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>>41460070
>Pain doesn't stop you doing those things (except maybe sleep but there's ways round that)
>You just have to have the will power to keep going and do the shit anyway.
>Don't use pain or 'stress' as an excuse to be unproductive.
>Work on fixing the problem, but work on getting through it anyway.
Gonna try applying this attitude to the anxiety I've been having recently. Not gonna let it stop me from doing things, but gonna have to deal with it.
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>>41457284
>>41451972
>>41451233
If a dog does attack you - kick it hard in the fucking face if it['s a little ankle biter. It'll run probably, or stand on it if it won't stop.

For the big ones that are a real problem and danger - try get a hand round it's throat and squeeze like fuck, use all your strength and weight to try pin it on it's back and then choike it out.
The most important thing at all times is control where it's jaws are and keep them as far away from yourself as you can.
DO NOT TRY TO PUNCH IT.
A dog is faster than you and a bite can and probably will fuck you up.
Let it bite onto your arm or leg if you have to, as long as you can get it by the throat after.

If you have time, wrap your jacket or something around your arm and use it to bait the dog into biting that. Then get the choke.

You can also use your keys to stab and punch at it, but unless you can get it in the neck or eyes then your probably won't stop it before it mauls you.

Also - you can't outrun a dog. Trust me.
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>>41450413
How do i stop being a little bitch?
Few days ago went out with this girl and it went great. She got all dressed up, we talked for a few hours, and she even txted me afterwards and said she really enjoyed herself and wanted to do it again.

But then she txted me this morning and said she won't have time this week due to work. Basically I can't help but think she was just fainting interest to pity me and has no intention to go out again.

I can barely sleep and I really thought I had a chance with this girl but now I'm worried it's over despite the fact she seems interested in me
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>>41460292
Iktf dude. I hooked up with this chick last weekend and caught some feels for her. Now she didn't reply to my text and it feels bad.
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>>41459945
A. Sell all your consoles and your PC and get a low spec Laptop that is purely for functional applications

B. Get A daily planner and develop an autistic tier schedule broken down to the 15 minute block level... Designate certain days toward the end of the week where you can binge play for 3 to 4 hours before bed on a Sunday. Only go through with it if you have completed all your positive activities for the week. I.E. work, study, exercise, reading, drawing, music...
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Seems like this thread could use some /fit/ /lit/
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>>41458483
>Why would you marry someone if you don't want to see them every day?

For multiple reasons
I believe marriage is important. I think it's rather quite sad to see someone in their 40s and unmarried. So I don't want to grow up to be that.
Also I want to have children, and raising children properly requires a stable family environment.
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>>41451617
stay sad then loser
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>>41450413
I work in customer service and fantasize about shooting myself or my customers so they can see just what shit human beings they are. What should I do? Also my job gives me chest pains and I fucking hate college. I'm an accounting major and I think having a metal rod jammed in my dick hole is more exciting.

I live paycheck to paycheck through school wanting to die. How is it being an electrician anyone know? I just need more money so I can have more freedom.

Please help me. I don't really want to die.
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>>41460988
>I think having a metal rod jammed in my dick hole is more exciting.
I can arrange this, if you'd like

>What should I do?
Tell me, what job do you think would make you happy? If you struggle to think of one that would genuinely make you happy, then I'd suggest that perhaps it's not the job, but things outside of it.
You say you're doing accounting. Do you feel that working as an accountant will be different than your current customer service job? What about it makes you nervous? Directly dealing with others?

>How is it being an electrician anyone know?
Depends on the country, here in Australia it can be pretty comfy as long as you're not a lazy dropkick
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>>41460459
not sure what to do
I don't want to make it seem like I don't care and not pursue it farther, but at the same time I don't want to pester her, you know
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>>41460988
instead of killing yourself, why not kill them - the shit humans?
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>>41450630
I browse these boards all the time along with /b/ and I'm not sitting here stewing and absorbing hatred. Letting things you see on the internet do anything to your mentality lest it be for beneficial reasons is silly.
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>>41451813
Same. For me its people in my field of view, walking toward me that cause anxiety. And seeing myself in a mirror. Idk what to do.
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>>41460292
>>41460459
Could be one of these:

You talked too much, expressed too much emotion (smiling included), fidgety body language, too agreeable. Women want a man who is like a tough father figure, a rock they try to break by making soft (making them emotional and act lovey dovey)
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How do I stop being so needy when I get into a girl? I'm great at playing the cool aloof guy when there is no strong feelings but my relationships always fall apart because I start to cling, overshare, and become too interested in pleasing her.
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My depression is just getting worse
I miss her, a lot, every day
I still lovewith my mom and she keeps putting off finding a therapist
Every day more and more thoughts of suicide keep popping up, I just want to be normal like everyone else
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>>41450934
then ask her out. what the fuck
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>>41462388
I didn't do any of that, in fact I don't think I displayed enough emotions which is why I was surprised when she texted me afterwards and said she really enjoyed it and wanted to do it again.

It's like why would she
>talk to me in class
>give me her number
>add me on facebook
>agree to go out for coffee
>actually show up
>spend time putting on makeup and a dress
>act enthusiastic the entire time
>text me first to tell me that she had a great time
>agree to do it again
if she didn't like me, or AT LEAST want to be around me, you know?

I mean she did tell me she's starting work this week, along with some volunteer stuff, and she has a kid brother to babysit because she's poor and her mom works all the time, so she could actually not have time to go to the movies. I know I'm over thinking it but I'm just used to expecting the worse when I comes to relationships.

My plan is now to don't text her, see if she tells me if she can next week by Tuesday. If not I'll ask her on Wednesday. sorry for blogpost just stressing out
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Can you really ever over come anxiety or depression? i was on meds for it but it gave me no boners so i quit taking them.
I've gotten really good at feeling recognizing when im about to have a mood swing or staring to get unreasonably emotional or snappy. i can keep that shit in check 99% of the time.
Its the anxiety and looming sense of doom and dread that i cant shake. im aware when im feeling it thats its just a fucked thing my brain is doing and to not let it consume me but it still has to pass naturally but it comes around again real quick. what the fuck? im always trying to do new things and overcome physical and mental barriers but the anxiety makes these hurdles seem like mountains. wat do? i dont wanna be on meds. any anons conquer this yet?
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>>41462785
Dude just chill. Have life in the meantime, maybe check up on her after a couple of days asking how the work is going.
Just chill!
I know it's hard, I used to be just like you worrying the shit out of it. But honestly, sometimes it's not a game, but people are actually busy, and can't even find time for people they like.
So again, chill bro, you got this!
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>>41462809
There was a TOR website about self healing depression by an anonymous neurologist, can't find it
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>>41462813
thanks man it means a lot, honestly
it will take a few sleepless nights but it will pass, hopefully for the better this time around
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>>41462893
Yeah I know. I can fully understand you, and yes it will suck, but it's better than fucking it up by coming of as a desperate beta male (which is what would happen if you ask her constantly).
Also, unless you only acted like a good friend, aka not showing her that you are interest in more than friendship, if she fucks up, it's her loss.
I know that this is hard to engrain in your mind if you never thought like that, but it's one of the best things my grandfather thaught me. If she fucks this up in any sort of way, her loss. Not yours.
Keep that in mind.
All the best to you Anon
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Is there a way to undo the damage has caused to me? I don't want to masturbate to gay or disgusting shit. I feel bad because i know this isn't part of me. It's an alien feeling i got used to after too much expositure.
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>>41462563
Im rooting for you anon
Hang in there
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>>41462809
I can tell you that the only time I was ever free from it was when I was in love. This girl was the only one that listened to me, and she'd always give me hugs. When she had her arms wrapped around me, the smell of her hair, the feel of her heart beating rapidly against my chest, the warmth of her body against mine. All the shit I worried about, the constant feeling of dread in my gut, went away instantaneously when she'd softly tell me everything was going to be alright.

When I moved away all those feelings came back, and I still haven't been able to shake them.
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>>41463117
undo the damage porn has caused*

Fuck.
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>>41463578
Just stop watching porn and focus on a healthy sexuality
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>>41453300
I'm finished the podcast today. I was thinking how I can be more evil(less empathy desu so I don't get taken advantage of at work) and he mentioned that you need to be evil first to become good or something along those lines.
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>>41450413
fit please help me.

So I have a girl for a long time now. And I also had my job for the same amount of time. I like my job, I currently live with my mom, my dad lives close, I have a lot of friends here. I earn good money for this area, it's okay and I like what I'm doing. I'm still young as you might guess.

Now, my girl wants to start studying in a big city, about 300 km away from here. I could live there too, and I'd earn twice the amount of money I make now.

But I'm very scared. I would live far away from my mom and dad - especially I would leave my mom alone because she lives alone then. I would leave all my friends and I'd quit a job that I really like. And I'd leave the place where I really got used to and I enjoy living here.

My girl and I made a compromise that after her studies, we would go back here (so in maybe 4 years), not exactly here but to a nearby city about 60km away.

What would you do? How can I not be so scared anymore about leaving my mom alone? About leaving my friends? About the future in general... I know I should "live my own life", but what do I get from that. Why shouldn't a family be close to each other?

This really fucks me mentally
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>>41463797
Oh yeah guys and don't get it like that - I made a proposal to my girl that we get a flat/house somewhere in this area, it's not about moving out from home. It's about moving out combined with moving far away..
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>>41451389
recommend books pls
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>>41463826
The alternative is your gf despising you for keeping her grounded in he ryouth.
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>>41462809
I literally today started looking at it as a challenge
Lets live life in spite of this trash
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>>41450961
watch RSDMax and learn how to stop giving a fuck
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>>41463957
this RSDMax is amazing
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>>41463957
Learned from Jeffy...good to see a fellow bro helping people
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>>41463797

Having good friends/family and being satisfied with where you live are more important (to me) than changing your entire life just to stay with a girl. I don't know how long you two have been together nor do I know how deep your relationship is, but I wouldn't move if I were you. Part of living your own life is doing what is best for you and the overall lifestyle you want to live. This is all my opinion though so you may think differently.
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>>41450517
Acid is much, much better. Go to forest, take one dose and make 50 km walk. Or just stay in the home and try to learn something (math, physic).
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>>41463973
>>41463997
good lads
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>>41463797
dont take this decision so seriously. you can always get over a girl if she leaves and you have a family yo come back to. or you can stay out there and test yourself to be alone.

either way you got this man. try to see the conclusions to life's events as lessons you can use to get you better each day
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>>41463883
If you like a history that is relevant today try:
1984
Brave new world
Farenheit 451

Also brothers of FIT. I got my anle hurt and I have to stay home for 4 days. Any advice what to do, to work some of my mind?

Additional question, can I go swimming after a week (using only hands in the pool)
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>>41463797
Don't be scared, I lived in 5 cities and It's hard only the 1st time. The imprtant thing is to find people early to talk to - having a hobby and meeting people with that hobby is a good idea.
The worst thing a man can do, is not see the world.

Also don't expect to keep the compromise, in 4 years a lot can happen. You may not want to go back.
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>>41450413
I have weak knees and i have been having constant pain since late 2015.I reduced my mindset of that of a 60 y.o.I can't fucking handle it anymore.I have very bad balance and i have flat feet.Also my coccyx fucking hurts for some reasin. I can't do cardio or train any sport.I can only do swimming but i don't believe it will have an impact.I just wanted to let all of this out/
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>>41464825
Its going to be candle snuffing time shortly anon. The system never gets rid of its enemies first. It gets rid of its friends first.

You're a friend

Have a great day :)
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>>41464852
fuck my body desu ill start swimming again and ill see where it leads me
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>>41451389
Classics are the best books by default since they've withstood the test of time and remain popular throughout the ages.
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>>41456353
Generally speaking, investing a loan into a business model is inadvisable if that business model is not already profitable.

Try saving more and starting your business with the bare minimum product. If it's a good idea it will be a good idea at any scale.

Good luck.
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>>41451822
Adderall.
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>>41455555
>55555
LORD JESUS HAMMERCY
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>>41451617
Are you triggered because your room is messy, Anon?
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>>41455555

Quints of the sage Anon! Witnessed!
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>>41452076
My library locally has "study rooms" that you can schedule time in and they're just quiet places to go study
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>>41451935
Concentration Meditation

Read "Thinking Fast and Slow"
concentration is literally a limited mental energy, learn to realize and focus it properly and your concentration and productivity will increase
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How do I truly achieve that feeling of not giving a rat's ass. Been battling social anxiety. My mind likes to spin narratives about what people think about me. I'm slowly being able to wrestle my mind into submission but sometimes it wins. I'm so close to ascending past it that I can feel it. What can I do to get that final push to not give a fuck? A near death experience?
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>>41467020
I'd start with learning to dance, honestly. Practice to some tunes you like when you're alone, drink heavily and take it to the clubs.

Remember that no one cares about you. You should be bigger than them either. Get some wins on the board to feel confident about. Meditate and realise you don't need the external world to feel happy once your basic needs are met
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>>41453395
Chris?

That you?
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>>41463883
If you want less of a dystopian read give blood meridian a go, that book really made me reflect on who I want to be and what I think it means to be a man.
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>>41450570
underrated
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>>41463883
Dunno if you're a /dixie/fag or not, but Louis L'amour has written a ton of easy novels about southern US men

Or if you want more /lit/ stuff you can go for Moby Dick or anything by Cormac McCarthy
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How do I make friends? Now let me be clear, I'm not a social autist. I can don't easily talk to people, have conversations, and not spill spaghetti. My issue lies with relating to others. Not mentally in that I can't feel what they feel, but veryvliterally; I don't relate to their lives. People are out drinking and playing video games or partying or what have you. I don't do those things. This is what keeps me from having friends. The things I do, such as lifting, guns, fishing, and playing some sports, don't help either because they're not social activities or because that activity is the only thing in common.

How do I relate to people better or find people who I can relate to?
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>>41467913
I can easily*

Phone posting is the worst
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>>41467913
Those are all common activities that lots of people do. You're not a special snowflake.

Kys
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>>41467941
>getting this mad

Did I somehow anger you with my question?
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>>41464043

YUESSSS

Let mama acid open your eyes
Make sure you dont get a research chemical
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>>41450478

you are not alone. You socialize with people all your life (unless you life in a cabin in the woods without contact with the world).

If you free time you like to expend it alone, it's completely ok. It's not a good example but most wise people disengage from society and follow self improvement alone.

tl;dr: embrace it and keep going.
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>>41450806
My parents have been married 30 years and are extremely happy together. Do not give up on love anon. Love is the reason.
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