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first for /comfywetsummerblast/

I don't need to say this but I feel I do need to say this

NO SOURCE TALK

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>>41300410
in4 qt girls (female)

>>41300467
Cute

>>41300410

Which kickstarter would you expierienced users use if you could turn the time back to your first cycle and why?

Thinking of classic week 1-4 40mg/day Dbol but i am a bit "scared" because its so "wet" and i dont want to end up like a bloated piece of shit.

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Ayyy lmao

I still want to smash because she actually pretty cute in some photos. What to say? Don't wanna ask basic shit that's gonna make her feel bad. It seems like she's fresh off the boat.

Maybe she knows our boy panda

>>41300614
ask if 'she' had a penis when 'she' was born

>>41300590
It's it's your first cycle ever don't do an oral kickstart.

>>41300432
Man fuck china moot, fraud used to be so much better with source talk

>>41300748

Why tho?
This is what realy fucks with my head when it comes to roids.. so many people say different shit.

>use a kickstarter since your first cycle will get you the most drastic changes and gains

>dont use a kickstarter

why?
Is it because its harder to dial in AI with a kickstarter or why wouldnt you use an oral?

>>41300590
If I could go back to my first cycle I'd run tren/test/EQ at 1g each/wk and kill myself with high blood pressure

>>41300813
Generally it's because on your first cycle you don't know how you're going to react to anything. You might be very estro-prone, you might not aromatise at all, your bloods might explode or they might be fine. There are a million different possible outcomes. You want to establish a baseline and then work from there later on.

>>41300590

I tried dbol on my second cycle. Hated it. The water retention made me feel like every muscle in my body was going to pop after every workout. I know some people like the "pump" but this was beyond painful.

For first cycle stick to test only just to get a feel for it. The for your second cycle and on, just start doing tren. the "kickstart" from orals is not worthwhile. Its mostly just water retention making you feel bigger and increased glycogen storage making you feel stronger. Actual muscle growth takes some time, even on gear.

>>41300813
Listen mate, second week of my first cycle here.

Estrogen is fucking me up mentally, not sure if it's low or high. I wanted to throw in dianabol for the first month, but looking back I'm glad I didn't because it would have made dialing in e2 worse.

Know how you react to testosterone, know how you react to AI, estrogen is trickier than you'd think.

Save the orals for your second cycle.

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>>41300399
why
>>41300415
what, jelly?
>>41300458
I've been doing it for some weeks now and the weight loss came to a halt, so I added dnp yesterday and now I will rape the last pieces of fat.
>eat like a pig
I eat crunchy cucumbers like a pig along with tobacco to still any cravins

>tfw shit tier genetics and have to worry about these things at all

Doing research for my first cycle, I wanna do it right and get set up for succes, but I had some noob questions: 1. How much should I worry about hematocrit/RBC going up. I found a study that turned out males under 35yrs didnt have their rbc go over dangerous levels, but it was on max 600mg test c/week. I eventually plan on going over that in later cycles. 2. How do I get a doc (western europe) to give me regular blood tests. Do I just go in their saying I need help monitoring my values because Im cycling steroids, or is there some line I can feed them?

Ok so pinned my quad for the first time 4 days ago and shit got sore and some mildly swollen 2 days ago. Did I fuck up or is this normal for new muscle?

>>41301133
F

>>41301140
It didn't do that for the other quad

Anyone recommend Cardarine?

>>41300846
Last 4 weeks of my first blast and I'm adding sdrol on top of var which I've already been running for 3 weeks. I do have to say, they gains I got from my anadrol kick start was pretty legit
10/10 blast, would run again.

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>>41301133
see a healthcare professional

>>41301217
use eq instead

>only have 200mg orals
>want to up dose 50mg ed
>want to find out how much earlier each day you do the intake for it to be equivalent to 250
>tfw shit at math and don't know how to calculate
my guess would be it's a 25% increase, so you would take it 25% earlier every preceding day. so if made the intake 9pm yesterday I would take it 24*0.25=6 hours earlier than the day before

>>41301330
>>41301217
Pretty much. Card is carcigenic. If you need it use both tho

>>41300590
I'd probably yolodose some adrol. Not that I'd truly recommend that for an actual inexperienced user (which I take it you are and ask because of that), just saying, would have gotten me to my goals a wee bit faster tbqh

>>41300614
maybe she IS panda. smash and try to cop some freebies

>>41301377
JUST DO 400 FAGGOT

Somewhat off topic, but I figured you degenerate would be the right people to ask. I've been cutting back on my drinking because it's so bad for my gains. Does anyone here experiment with recreational research chemicals?

>>41301739
>>>/fitlit/

>>41301847
not same guy but how is doubling the dose remotely /fitlit/ related

>inb4 joke I was not aware of during the merge

>>41301876
because he's stupid enough suggest doubling instead of doing the math, and could use some brain training

>>41301921
>implying it was a serious suggestion
but yeah, fair enough

unrelated blogpost
>fiend hard as fuck on massive ECY stack because muh preexisting stim tolerance
>notice jaw/masseter gains from unwillingly clenching my teeth during heavy liftan and at night
>pro: free tren jaw without the bologna sides
>con: may be delusional and actually look like le methrat alex to others at some point
halp

Why does 17 alpha alkylation makes steroids orally bioavaible? Is it something to do with the methyl group preventing binding to an enzyme?

>>41301377
you're completely ignoring the half life of whatever you're taking btw

I'm guessing it's dnp because no other """oral""" comes in 200mg format, in which case the 36 hours half-life makes this completely useless.

just keep taking 200 until you feel ready to make the jump to 400 (after at least 4-5 days of 200mg)

Okay so after some searching online and whatnot I figured you guys would be the best to ask.

So i recently started blasting again, about 5 weeks ago, on t500 (which is 500mg / ml test e + test cyp). Which I’m injecting 2x / week, 1 cc each, so that makes for a gram of test per week. However, I don't really feel any increased libido, strength gains and haven't really gained any weight either. So i’m just thinking that it’s really underdosed right. However, when first injecting it I got test fever for a couple of days, so that has me thinking it IS legit? The pip was also excruciating, but that’s to be expected with 500mg / ml. I’ve already diluted the test with some GSO but i’m still getting hard lumps a couple of days after each injection site. I am rotating delts, quads and glutes, so it shouldn’t be because of scar tissue.
Question is, do any of these things do contribute to you believing it is actual genuine test or nah? I should be feeling something right now on nearly a gram of test right.

>>41301994
Yes, pretty much. The methylation prevents the steroid from being metabolized into an inactive form and/or excreted.
>>41302258
How much experience do you have with steroids?

>>41302376
This is my third blast so about +1 year, upped the test this blast to see for myself if it wasn't bunk so that's why i'm running it so high now.

>>41302411
You're getting all the negative sides of high concentration gear with none of the usual benefits. What about aromatization? What's your AI dosage and estrogen sides?

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>>41300160
Autocorrect sucks massive dick. I said Deus vult and it went to volt.

>>41300410
Crusader. Fakk dood where've you been? Crusading and shit?

How do I stop my lower back from getting completely fucked every time I do any hard work on leg day? I only did Leg extensions, Hamstring curls, Leg presses, and calf raises on the leg press machine, but my lower back was in so much pain after that, I could barely stand to stand.

I used to have Lumbar Lordosis, but it's mostly fixed now, but whenever my lower back gets like this, my body is forced back into that position.

>>41302545
iphone confimed for heretical. who would have thought

>>41302546
sounds like you need to do some stretching

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Looking harder by the day yet I feel worse. Fuck emotions. Me no feel emotions. Me watch anime and muh cacoon mode. Me fuck girl and have babys then me shoot myself. Me happy then.

>>41302545
> deus volt

>>41302691
> *tips fedora*

>>41302467
Yeah exactly that's what bothering me so much and prevents me from solving it myself.

I had some mild aromitisation and got puffy / sensitive nips. Didnt really experience any other than just low libido i guess.

Currently taking 1.25mg letro every 3.5 days together with the pin.

This is now starting to reduce though (the nipple issue)

How long after dosing an AI does it take for estrogen levels to actually lower significantly?

Anyone here have experience with defy medical or primebody?

>>41303031
I've never heard of them but if they are sources then delet this

>>41303079

They are TRT clinics, not sources

>>41302546
>How do I stop my lower back from getting completely fucked
tight hip flexors dumbass

look up thomas stretch or do something similar. don't do it standing and pull your leg back, that's too weak

dont do leg extensions and learn how to properly squat please, you're just going to fuck your knees man

>>41303107
I can pull my knee to my armpit doing the thomas stretch, so I don't know how tight my hip flexors are supposed to be. My squat max is 3.5pl8, and my form is fine. I got the pain from leg pressing anyway.

>>41302988
Depends on the AI you use

>>41303177
Quads also function as hip flexors. Stop doing leg extensions for a while. Either that or you are doing your leg pressing and calf raises terribly wrong.

>>41303031
Defy medical is GOAT

>quit DNP three days ago
>develop a rash on my torso

Epic. Just epic.

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>>41303363
>tfw already have chronic urticaria, on antihistamines and some eventual dnp rash won't matter

metribolone is pretty much the greatest oral

>>41303363
>he isn't taking his antihistamines

>>41303423
You're gonna die kid

i never understood why so many people come here asking shit like
> hurrrr do i need ai?
> my friend doesnt take caber, do i need to
or basically just treating ai as optional gold plating. and also why so many people still to this day wind up with gyno despite it being widely understood how it occurs

last night i realized it is because they are poorfags who just buy their juice first, get excited to roid, pin, feel fine, think they are fine, then suddenly get an itchy nip and freak out and cry to the internet "whyyyy me"?

it's because they are cheap poorfags. stop being poor. its gross.

>>41303630
This is a bad post.

>>41303423
Too bad no verified sources carry it

How widespread are the joint pains from estrogen being too low? Is it like, "some guys get it in the ones, some in the shoulders," or do all of the joints hurt?

>tfw you feel that cozy dnp heat coming on
reminds me of poppers

>>41303423
Kys

>>41304112
?

>>41303244

Ok good. I just had my initial phone consultation with them. Hopefully the bloodwork shows low T.

>>41304191
I'm talking to the doctor tomorrow, bloods showed low free t so I'm assuming I'll get TRT.

>>41304231

ur gonna make it

>>41304112
he will

tfw will never be 7 ft and stuck at 6'3" forever

is it too late for hgh I'm 23 sick of being fucking average height

>>41302546
Anterior Pelvic Tilt
Brace your core properly, engage your glutes and tilt your hips posteriorly until your lower back is flat and keep it like that during lifting

>>41304596
Alternatively, he could get a gf.

>>41304618
But how does on into gf?

>>41304654
Stop being a personalitylet

Considering starting TRT at a clinic. 28 years old and fat with T levels in the bottom 10% of normal. Am I risking infertility? Some say temporarily some say permanently.

>>41304704
Doesn't matter. No one is going to accept your Kmart ass big lots lookin genetic material anyways.

Humans are animals; we can still sense inferiority.

>>41304704
Just take HCG retard

Just curious, I got my T tested ( for a different issue?and) it was 480. My doc said it was normal since it was at 11 o clock and apparently it decreases past 7 but it seemed a little low to me. Any opinions?

>>41304777
Tell your idiot doctor to test free t and not just total

>>41304777
Nice heavenly trips my dood

>>41304704
infertility is a meme

>>41304750
Nothing I've read says that shit does anything at all

>>41304812
Lol k bud

>>41304812
Nice argument from ignorance. Have you tried reading actual scientific literature instead of blog posts?

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>>41304812

>>41304750
Do you mean in conjunction with TRT

What's a good compound that won't show up on a TRT blood test?

>>41304787
you realize nobody actually tests free t right? that shit is calculated

and mostly irrelevant

>>41304957
Free t is all that matters, total is useless free is what's actually active.

>>41304946
Do you get a full blood panel or just free/total test and estrogen?

>>41305041
Full bloods

JUST

>>41304618
I already have a gf senpai

>>41304596
Isn't that what Lumbar Lordosis is? I guess I'll just have to focus on keeping my lower back as flat as possible then.

>>41305046
Anavar will BTFO your HDL and LDL but won't show up as test

>>41304975
you have a very poor understanding of what free t is. free t is what isn't bound to the shbg + albumin

Sup fraud
planning my first run of tren in June, already have everything I need on hand besides pins
Test, tren, caber, asin, and winstrol too plus nolva and clomid for PCT (inb4 >PCT)
My question is, if my goal is a lean bulk or recomp, should I run the test and tren at 350/350? Or should I run the test at around 200mg a week and start the tren at 350 then go up from there until sides get bad? I've read lower test leads to less sides from tren, but I'm just wondering if anyone here has personal experience running them at varying dosages over a few different cycles and could chime in. Thanks brahs

does tren make your face look even more chaddish than test does?

>>41305114
And if you have high SHBG your total t will be fine but free t will be low. Any TRT clinic will give you TRT for this. But if you have a cuck doctor who only tests total test you would suffer low t symptoms despite your total t being in range.

>>41305150
yes, tren jaw is definitely not a meme. it's not the absolute btfo solution if you're ugly to begin with though, kek

>>41305128
I've ran 300/300 test/tren and 100/600. Low test + high tren was definitely better for a lean bulk. Sides were worse, but that's to be expected with double the tren, and they weren't bad at all (mild insomnia/irritability, slightly higher bp, temporary hair shedding). Keeping test and tren equal was also really good for bulking but I definitely had more bloat.

>>41305291
>Tren jaw

what is this alleged non-meme?

>>41305314
Tren leans out your face, giving you a more prominent jaw. Also rumored to actually change your facial structure but I find that hard to believe.

>>41305314
visible face gains (to an extent), you won't turn into the chin superhero from that fairy kids show overnight but it seems to make your face leaner without making you look like Alex mid-EC stack back then.

>>41305340
facial structure altering IS a meme afaik. but the rest definitely is not

Tfw want to run tren but TRT doc takes bloods every 3 months and tren shows up as estrogen for labcorp

>>41305569
who cares if the doc finds out, he can't report you to the police anyways. if you don't live in a police state

>>41305314
>>41305340
i'd wager it's just increasingly androgenic fat distribution coupled with the fact it's a dry compound

i'm sure anything else does it just as much, but the drugs bloat so you'll never notice it

Superdrol with a cruise dose of test for lean gains on a cut yes no

>>41305733
cool

I'm DYEL but starting a job as a correctional officer in 3 months and want something to add weight so I can intimidate these violent nigger criminals.

I'm lanklet

>>41306002
TREN

Why do people keep saying bloating is due to high E? I bloat on higher test even with 15 pg/ml E.

YALL NEED TO CEASE TO SPREAD MISINFORMATION

Is it safe to take ibuprofen on test-e and arimidex?

>>41306169
u gon die

>>41306169

LOL enjoy ur gyno

I fell for the anavar meme

>>41306227
suicide is the only option

sorry

>>41301133
I had this from a vial, arm went red and it felt swollen for days.

I think the alcohol concentration was to high, I just stopped using the vial it felt like shit.

Should i psmf on 250mg TestE a week if i am 12% bodyfat or could i just blast?

>>41306181
>>41306214
...wut?

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Blasting again after a 8-10 week cruise, 100mg mast end for 3 weeks y/n? Should I just wait for more and hit a 5-6 week?

Also sandrock is the best gundam

>>41306296
Pic of you at 12%? Most people who think they're 12 are 15-18...

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What's the gyno protocol with ralox? I've been doing 60mg AM/PM and haven't noticed really anything.

>>41306333
that happens to be the exact protocol. it can and will take some time though, it ain't magic

Test on its own feels so underwhelming, eating 3500 calories a day just getting fat lifts hardly going up.

Is my gear just bunk, taking 500mg ew.

>>41306313
3 weeks is a waste of time and money

>>41306330
In case i am 15-18 should i cut right? because i think i am closer to that but calipers from a friend said 12 so idk

>>41306167
>MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE MEANS THE GENERAL CONSENSUS IS WRONG

Im already on 20mg Sdrol and 50mg Var ed but what can I take pwo for even more insane pumps?
I never really took a preworkout before so I dont know this type of shit.

>>41306442
Halo

>>41306354

>bloods

>>41306442
creatine

>>41306382
Yes, if you're planning on doing gear, cut to as lean as possible even if you lose a little muscle don't sweat it. I did my first cycle at like 17% bodyfat and didn't realize how fat I was getting thought every pound I gained was muscle and ended the cycle a fat ass (albeit a strong fatass). Diet, start gear at 10-12%, ???? and profit

>>41306561
Is anavar good for a cut

Why don't you take CIALIS you fucking geeks makes my dick half an inch bigger from how rock hard it makes me.

My gf randomly started calling me daddy now that I've been taking this stuff and destroying her pussy.

>>41306601
Anvar isn't good for jack shit
Cut on 250mg test, add tren if you've done a few cycles already

>>41306561
Okay, thanks famalam

Does superdrol actually cause lethargy or is it just because of the retards who don't run test and shut themselves down?

>>41306687

why do you want a girl thinking about her father while she is fucking you

>tfw no fraud bf

>>41306837
Im only 1 week in of 20mg ed while only taking 500mg tudca and I think it might be over hyped. Honestly the vascularity, size, and strength it gives me makes me want to work out every day. I also felt this way on 100mg of Adrol so maybe its just me.

>>41306837
If it is anything like dbol then yes it does.

are we allowed to talk about labs but not the buying site?

>>41306906
Dbol makes you feel powerful though

>>41306880
Peasant

>>41301086
JUST

>>41306934
Yeah but also lethargic as hell, when I used it I felt like shit all day aside from when I was in the gym then I had loads of energy.

for just 500test is aromasin or arimidex better to have on hand if i really need ai
what do you prefer?

>>41306913
No.
>>41307075
Asin. It's easier to dose.

week 1-6
Test E 500mg/week
EQ 600mg/week
arimidex @1mg M-W-F**

week 7-15
Sust @ 600-750mg/week
Tren A@300-450mg/week
Dbol @50mg/split 25mg+25mg
arimidex@1mg/ed

week 16-20
cruise
Test C @200mg/week
hgh

How does this stack look?

>>41307108
>Sust
I've heard only bad things about Sust

Why aren't you starting with tren and dbol?

Is your cruise only 4 weeks? Or is that like a taper down to a real cruise?

>>41307108
did you just find the steroid profile section on steroid dot com

>>41307136
This is all my supplier gave me, currently on week 5. Test and eq took a while to build up but seems to be going well now.

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>>41307148

>>41307087
on account of it being a factor of 25 times greater in terms of mg i presume? do they act slightly differently or am i misremembering

>>41307148
What!? Nah, this is what was recommended to me. First cycle lmao>>41307148

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>>41307151
I would keep the EQ running for the majority of the cycle rather than just the start, ditch the sust for more Test-E, also taper down the Test-E to 250-300mg when introducing the Tren and you should have really started out with the Dbol. Not too sure where to place it since you didn't start with it.

>>41307175
Anecdotally, Adex acts much quicker in your system and is more likely crash your E2. Asin is a slower burn.

>>41307186
It kinda looks loke the goal was a slow build then blast the tren phase. The coast back down and recover. But according to pharmacist i should stay on cycle.

>>41306881
L O N D O N

>>41307075
Technically you might not even need at 500mg. Asin is said to be better but adex should work fine if you're prone to gyno or aren't worried about crashing e2.

>>41307151
Seems good, eq

>>41307216
That sounds fucking retarded. No offence.

>>41307178
>was recommended to me
BY WHOM, DEAR GOD

Can I buy one of those Visa/MasterCard prepaid cards that you put a certain amount of cash on at the store, and then put the cash I deposited on the card into my Western Union account?
Pic semi related

>>41307232
Idk, first cycle and money wasnt an issues so i just gave him my stats and requested a cycle. This is what i got, first cycle btw

>>41307252
You're gonna kill yourself.

Is a 16 week cycle with 500mg of Test E per week fine if you're a beginner? Also, how much Aromasin should I be taking?

>>41307240
Street pharmacist

>>41307278
Yes. None until you start getting estro sides. It's totally possible you don't get any sides. If you do, 12.5mg EoD or E3D should do it.

>>41307201
seems like the smarter choice given test aromatises into estradiol at a moderate pace by if at all, its not like methylestradiol from dbol which is so much more aggressive

>>41307277
Legit? You can die from this cycle? I got a nurse so i habe her check my blood pressures and keep her up to date, shes my wife.

>>41307231
yeah i figured through a lot of listening estrogen effects dont really manifest in a lot of people when the dose is as moderate as 500mg, but as always you never know for sure

I've been cruising on 100mg Test E e3d for a while, and 3 weeks ago, I started running Tren E at 125mg e3d. So far the only sides I've had was some insomnia, and maybe a little of the 'roid rage', but that is not for sure. I was planning on upping the dose should all go well with a small dosage, so would 200mg e3d be a decent amount to run for another 15 weeks?

>>41307247
>pic semi related
>pic absent
what did he mean by this

>>41307231
>L O N D O N
w-whoa gay :3

>>41307317
....

Jesus help us. You'll probably end up raping your wife if you're not prepared for the Tren sides.

>>41307252
i really hope you do not go through with this

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>>41307341
No that's not allowed here.

>>41307345
tren sides being bad is the best meme. I only experience insomnia with it

>>41307333
>upping the dose
are you getting gains right now?

>>41307352
What can i change? Im pumped for stage 2, tren is supposed to be awesome.

>>41307333
I can't see any problems with that. It's kind of a pussy dose though.

>>41307283
ok

>>41307365
Some, I've hit PR's on Bench (117.5kg - 120kg) and OHP (70kg - 75kg), would've on Deadlift but I added 20kg to my max and almost pulled the lmao 5pl8, but couldn't lock out.

>>41307375
Well I'm not sure how much to raise it to. it's already quite an increase from 125mg to 200mg e3d. I was planning on keeping Test low to minimize Tren sides, which is the whole reason I was running a low dosage - to test how susceptible to sides I was.

>>41307296
If you have gyno from puberty is there a higher chance of having estrogen sides?

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>>41307247
>>41307336
Forgot it, here it is

>>41307425
Usually people running Tren will keep the test at 250mg and the Tren will hover at like 600-750.

>>41307441
I'm not sure to be honest.

>>41307341

Oh, no.

>>41307464

That's a boatload of tren

>>41307488
>That's a boatload of tren

T-that's the point desu.

>>41307455
I'm 10k richer now thank you

>>41307374
>what can i change
how you are going to die for one

if you really must do a ridiculous blast as your first cycle, then start with

weeks 1-4
test e 500
dbol 50 ed

weeks 5-8
just test 250 or 500 it really wont matter that much

weeks 9-12
test e 250 (the tren will take care of the anabolic/androgenic stuff, no point bothering with higher test, its in your system anyway)
tren a 50 eod (if youve never used it even at 50 it will rape you)

weeks 13-16
test 250 or 500

then come off wait two weeks, use some hcg and 40402020 nolva

you can only get big/strong so fast without turning your skin into something that looks like a roast chicken and executing your tendons

>>41307504
What?

>>41307504
kys

>>41307527
Who are you quoting?

>>41307505
Im in week 5....

>>41305569
lol this is exactly why trt should be last choice, not first.

>>41306687
> daddy
the same thing happened to me. i feel like I'm going to perforate her pussy.

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>>41307108
First cycle just run 500 test and if you're feeling wild 10 adrol a day.

>>41307586
In week 5...

>>41307108
> 4 weeks of hgh
slow down goliath

>>41307505
Should i just stick with tren/eq for 12-16 weeks and, pct then try the tren cycle?

>>41307425
ah ok are those singles or for reps? what is your training like, i always go by if you can adjust your diet or routine to maximise your gains, do that, rather than just take more drugs; since its tren, just eat more whatever and youll gain more, and get your usage worth of the dose you're at rather than just up it, just ask yourself if the gains youre getting are really too slow then decide if you wanna go up

ive seen it a lot on here, not accusing you my friend, but it seems somewhat common that because people have already opted to take gear they will very easily allow upping it to become the primary means of getting more/continuing the current gains instead of doing all the stuff they were doing naturally like adjusting calories and changing up training. something to think about my bros

i think my girl is upset about my ball shrinkage. she barely plays with them anymore.
> hcg
fuck hcg. not injecting broken glass into my nutsack.

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>>41307597
Ok then just stick with test and eq

I am only two weeks into 500 test 400 tren (4 months 250 test cruise) and this shit is fucking insane. You cant sleep. You're mad as fuck at everything. You want to rape everything. Your hair falls out daily. Your acne gets disgustingly bad. Your face warps into a demonic looking gaze. Your piss turns a sinister looking dark orange and smells so fucking vile no matter how much water you drink. Gains are absolutely unreal though desu. Breaking prs literally every single day 7 days a week now. Skin tearing pumps too.

THIS SHIT IS NO JOKE MAN. SAVE IT FOR NEXT CYCLE. YOU'VE BEEN WARNED.

If I have a temporary heart condition (POTS syndrome) that is non-fatal, would I be fine running 500mg of test e a week for 16 weeks? I've gotten ultrasounds of my heart, and the doctor said everything was normal with it. I also got a blood test a little bit ago that was checking to see if my heart was healthy and everything was normal as well. The only symptoms I really experience are a heart rate increase from 70ishBPM to 100ish BPM when standing up, and I also get lightheaded and sometimes a bit dizzy. My heart rate also increases after eating. My blood also pools in my feet when I'm standing and my hands when they're at my sides, and it makes my veins swell and my hands/feet red.

>>41307705
Okay, haha. I will do test and eq for 12 weeks then pct. Wait a couple months and do a tren cycle.

>>41307622
if you mean test/eq yes, save the tren

tren is very powerful dont just waste it, like i said you can only grow so fast
picture this
a guy goes on a 500test e cycle for 16w and gains 23lbs
another does dbol, tren, maybe a 3rd compound with test for 16w too and gains 28lbs

the second guy wasted his first time on dbol and tren to gain fuckin 5lbs more. that is retarded. because now in the future he'll have to blast higher doses or do other compounds to get another 10lb gain, when he could have gotten another 23lb gain by exposing his virgin receptors to either of those compounds, and yknow 20lbs is fucking huge gain in that time by natty standards, youre already far and above that, so why must you have more? its just excessive

>>41307597
>>41307705
told you
>>41307780

>>41300410
I have 1 mg pill capsules of arimidex and thinking of a good way of splitting it into .25 E3D. Is pouring the whole capsule into a water bottle and shaking it up and then drinking 1/4 of the bottle E3D a good way of going about this? I don't have a pill cutter or a scale so I assumed this would be the easiest

>>41307733
Honestly, I wouldn't fuck with it man.
You will lay in bed and feel your heart beating cause increased BP and it will give you anxiety attacks.

>>41307780
I dont need more, just what i was advised. Im good with 20lbs desu. Hell, thats a huge gain! I would be happy as balls with 20lbs muscle mass.

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>>41301133

It's because you didn't inject the quads at testicle height. If you inject according to where your testicles end, you get no PIP.

You also need to get drunk before injecting. Prevents PIP. That's how I do it, serious.

>>41307694
double digit iq

>>41307864
>manjaw

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>>41307345
>Jesus help us. You'll probably end up raping your wife

>>41307883
If you don't date tall women with strong jaws you're just asking for a sissy manlet son

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>>41307694
>fuck hcg. not injecting broken glass into my nutsack.

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>>41307864
Mmmm gibs me dat motorboat

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Im DYEL and on TRT. What oral should I blast to take advantage of my beginner gains and test cruising? I want to be massive.

>>41307837
So you'd say the only downsides would be anxiety attacks?

>>41307935
Anadrol is the most potent oral for mass aside from oral tren which is suicide.

Prove me wrong faghots

>>41307935
adrol

you should be lifting before roids but whatever good luck mate

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>>41307883

Butterfaces are the best possible option. You need a bitch to hate herself to act with any decency. If there is not something blatantly wrong with their appearance that they can't cover up, they turn into narcissist cunts, otherwise they know the score. Also, you forgot 'no homo'.

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>>41307960
so this is why you're still with the nigress, crazy.

you should have white kids some day though

If I can't get a 21 gauge needle for drawing, which size would be the second best size for drawing: 20 gauge or 22 gauge?

>>41307939
Anxiety attacks caused by the fact you're using a substance that has a negative impact on your heart health with an already preexisting condition.
You'll probably be fine though desu. 500 test if soft.

>>41307986
i use 20 but it really doesnt matter

>>41307986
smaller gauge = bigger needle = bigger hole
bigger hole = better for drawing

duh

>>41307960
She bang

>>41307705
Stop roleplaying

So that Cialis 20mg I got from a UGL:

-doesn't make my dick any different
-I think it makes me feel nauseous for the entire next day after I take it

I've only taken 1 so I'm not sure about it. Should I try 1 more? I have 29 left and nothing to do with them if they're bunk.

>>41308064
Sounds like you got prami instead m8

>>41308064
Probably rat poison

>>41307837
>>41308017
Also, what if I have low blood pressure? Would the steroids raising my BP be beneficial?

>>41301330
>>41307985
Jesus Christ, Norwegian girls are the best, man.

>>41308064
>not buying from verified sources of if /r/SST

>>41308121
........this was basically the most popular verified US domestic source on

>>41307985
that pig on the right looks might tasty doe

>>41308136
get your money back you chimp ass retard.

sources literally spray you with free gear if shit is even remotely close to bunk.

What's the difference between Tbol and Superdrol? Is tbol just the pussy version?

>>41308149
She's just a paper bag away from perfection.

>>41308181
They're very, very different compounds. Do more research.

>>41308156
Please do not use rude language against me.

>>41308181
tbol is worthless, and i really mean it
superdrol is crazy strong

>>41307825
someone please respond

>>41308206
Both are for dry and lean gains and don't aromatise. Shut UP nerd.

still on my raw ground beef + vitamin + dnp starv diet

>>41308235
>"The car in the hat" and "the brothers Dostoyevsky" are both books, so they're they same thing.

>>41308237
You're eating raw beef?..

>>41308272
This is your last warning SHUT IT!!!!

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>>41308237

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>>41308276
>he burns his amino acid rendering a good amount of them useless for his body
but why?
also
>what is steak tartare
and
>m-muh ecoli
I've eaten it regularly for months with no issues. If you're concerned about that maybe you shouldn't try it in a third world country.
>>41308300
>meme graphs
whatever

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>>41308237
>>41308313

>>41308313
If you're thermally decomposing amino acids when you cook you're doing it wrong.

>>41308361
Whatever, it's like candy and tastes miles better. Sorry you won't be able to enjoy it if they feed your thirld world country's cows with tapeworms.

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>>41308376

>>41308315
Looks delicious though.

>>41308376
How do you prepare it? I'm genuinely curious, I eat my hamburger raw already, just brown the outsides for the texture. Isn't it squishy and gross?

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>>41308381
>implying you would eat that cooked
you can keep posting third world country meat all you want.
I'll remind you one more time that it's an ingredient fucking dish named steak tartare
>>41308395
You can season it however you want, and while it's usually served with something else when used in a dish, I literally eat it like candy out of the box because it taste so fucking good.

>>41308064
yeah dude if you feel the nausea I doubt it's bunk.

cialis won't help you if your e2 is skyhigh btw, that may be it.

try 2.

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>>41308417
that looks disgusting desu

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>>41308430
ah well, it's not like you could've tried it in your thirld world country anyway without catching worms

>>41308441
That's funny, because eating raw meat is usually associated with third world countries

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>>41308441
ill pass thanks

>>41308313
>>41308417
>>41308441
This shit looks fucking disgusting. Especially raw eggs make me wanna fucking puke

>>41308466
that would also explain why it's also associated with diseases and worms given their thirld world shithole abattoir hygiene
>>41308467
owo
>>41308478
>raw eggs make me wanna fucking puke
confirmed never going to make it

>>41308466
>eating raw meat is usually associated with third world countries
No it doesnt

>>41307780
b-but that's not how it works. Prolonged steroid use has been shown to increase the number of androgen receptors.

But I agree with your conclusion that he's retarded.

>>41307888
You are cyber bullying me.

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>>41307985

Yeah, not feeling that the niggress is long term. Especially after she hunts down and harasses my Aryan exes and fucking sees nothing wrong with that behavior. I have no idea what she did exactly but those bitches don't text anymore.

I'll have white kids one way or another. Niggers are hardly comfortable with monogamy so it really doesn't matter. Still better than dealing with crazy White bitches.

TRT makaes me need to sleep less, hungrier and want to train twice a day? Also I now actually think about sex and for the first time in my life I have pimples. Is this accurate?

>>41308083
I'm not a doctor. Sorry man.

>>41307733
Dude

The biggest and main risk to steroids is cardiovascular problems, which isn't necessarily too big of a risk if you're healthy with no preexisting conditions. It's not worth it for you, if what you're saying is true you'll croak before you even start getting big enough that roiding would be worth it.

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>>41308636
But my heart condition isn't life threatening, and I'm pretty positive it's caused by not being active at all and spending most of my life sitting.
I just wanna get jacked over summer

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>>41308724

>>41308724
You should really consult your doctor first man.

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>>41308724
enjoy death my dude

at least you'll die ripped

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Do you guys pin e3d or two days a week like Monday/Thursday? I've been pinning for years and the e3d rotating schedule was kinda getting annoying.

I just took a couple bites of raw hamburger meat to see if that anon was into something AND IT WAS SO FUCKING DISGUSTING WTF! I feel sick to my stomach and nauseous..

I'm gonna die from a MEME. FUCK

I read somewhere the halo testing that was done to see how liver toxic it was, was performed on rats and used massive amounts of it (mg to bodyweight) that a bodybuilder, or human in general, will never come close to that so it's not that liver toxic at all.
Idk maybe I'm biased but I've done multiple halo cycles and my liver is fine, got tests done when it was free.

>>41309214
what's the point of halo if you're not competing

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>>41309214
They give it to kids for delayed puberty, micropenis, and undecended testes so who knows.

okay after reading the earlier discussion on the topic... i'm doing my first cycle of 500mg test and i was considering running dbol as a kickstarter for 4-6 weeks. it seemed in the wiki that it was reasonably safe, other than converting to estrogen easier. will the dbol really help a 16-20 week test cycle for a beginner? i'd rather save the money, but it seemed like the first 6 weeks were not going to give any real results.

thanks if anybody has any input, i'm just trying to make it. also, is the 12% bodyfat critical? i'm measured at like 18% average, so probably like 20%. should I really wait for 12%, and what are the downsides of just blasting test at 20%? thanks

I'm scared to run anything that aromatizes because I don't know how to into AI. Seems confusing. You just wing it and increase/decrease dose depending on feels.

>>41309324
Dbol is regularly used as a kickstarter to cycles. It will help. You should be lean before doing so otherwise you will aromatise like a bitch.

So itt depends on your goals. Dbol is good for total mass and strength but it will give a lot of water weight. If that's not your thing, don't take it.
>>41309370
Yes.

>Wow I got bitch tits
>25mg asin
>Wow my bones feel like shit
>12.5mg asin
>Wow I don't have bitch tits and my bones don't feel like shit

Easy.

>>41309450
What's a good starting dose for asin if I'm taking 50 mg ed for 6 weeks with test

>>41309474
You probably wouldn't need it for 350mg per week of test. But if you're paranoid 6.25mg or 1/4 of a tab EoD should be more than enough. If not, move to ED.

Also why 6 weeks? That's extremely short.

>>41309487
50 mg dbol I mean for 6 weeks as kickstart

>>41309503
Oh. 12.5mg EoD would be a minimum.

>>41309450
thanks mate. i appreciate the input, i guess i'll cut hard over summer. might run dnp for a couple weeks. losing 8% body fat is gonna be tough. i've always been husky, and i used to be really (240+ no muscle) fat. but now i'm 178 and much more muscular, still DYEL but progressing.

i'm also not this >>41309474
>>41309503
guy

i guess i'll report in when i'm lean. it's disappointing that i can't cycle now, but i accept that my shit life choice up until now made this the case. thanks cru

How does superdrol cause gyno WTF I have boobies

>>41309673
so many summerfags lately

its starting

Pray for me boys my blood tests put my GGH at 6x the normal amount. Liver failure imminent!

Source says his anavar raws are 98% pure what are the chances he's full of shit

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Making gains but thought my ex and roommate were hooking up turns out he likes her, she doesn't like him and I annoyed her so much she blocked me.

>>41309842
what did u do anon?

>>41309936
*GGT

Lots of stuff over the years but it looks like DNP was what finally beat me

>>41309908
>that filter abuse
jesus m8

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>source selling winny and var at the same price

Nice try nerd NOT gonna trick me

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damn i miss frauding. i dont recognize any of these faces....

>>41309908
>>41310047
>roiding for this

>>41309908
>Talking to your ex

How can you look at yourself in the mirror? Fucking sad cunt

Since anavar is safe for women will it be safe to give like 5 mg to my dog for a few weeks to get him lean and vascular?

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>>41310059
You know it, lemme see you!

>>41310067
>roiding for 5/10s

LMAO

>>41310063
We've been fucking though, and then this fucking kid has no idea I've been back with her and try's talk to her. Now she's mad at me and he says he has feelings and is going to keep trying.

>>41310080
Height?

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>>41310096
6'3"

>>41310094
>try's

>>41310103
oh so you're like kahuna but not dyel
do you like heroin by any chance?

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>>41310115
fuck no dude, im in the military, cant do that shit anyways, nor would i want to if i could. im an old schooler here, havent been here in like a year or more. been deploying and shit.

>>41310115
He flirted with her while they were drunk she says she doesn't like him. Then I mention to him that we've been fucking and he says oh now I know you're a lying piece of shit. Only reason I haven't beat the shit out of him is because he knows about the gear.

>>41310136
you sound like a cuck dude if you think she isnt in to him. shes just saying that to keep fucking you too. women are fucking whores. why would you beat the fuck outta a dude for that, if its your ex, then just dropp her and be done, find yourself a new bitch. what you can only find one girl who wants to touch you?

>>41310130
Shame about that babyface

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>>41310165
its not that bad when im lean.

>>41310165
still cuter than you faggot

>>41310154
Nah been fucking tinder sloots too without her knowing but this fucked me up pretty bad. Was with her for three years. I don't want this loser fucking her because he's good at manipulating people.

>>41310180
looks like you are too, ever thought about that? maybe you two arent that different after all...

>>41310169
mirin aesthetics, hope you plan on having kids

>>41310180
just move on dude

>>41310180
Why are you so bent out of shape over your EX you cuck faggot. Increase your AI dose you emotional fairy.

>>41310190
Yea I'm aware I'm a piece of shit but this kids only doing this because I've been "mean" to him all year. He's a low test faggot.

>>41306687
just be careful with grapefruit juice and nitrates or alfa blockers (prostate hypertrophy medication)

>>41310169
Pure Aryan

We have similar lips. Very shaped.

>>41310214
On 600mg test c and some lgd with no Ai that's a problem huh.

>>41310217
IDK that sounds pretty high test. Maybe youre just self conscious because youve been fucking up the whole time and cant truly admit it to her, and now you see some dude giving her attention, and wanna be all high and mighty

>>41310224
>no ai
post nips

>>41310226
I do everything for her still back story we broke up this semester because she found my gear. This kid hung out with her for one night drunk and now has feelings he says.

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>>41310246
>I do everything for her

Convince me not to buy oral tren from a newly verified source on Reddit. How bad could it fuck me up take 500 mcg a day for 4 weeks?

Afaik no other verified sources sell it

>>41310246
sorry taco gains whoever you are, but i actually hope he fucks her. you might know how itd feel for her to fuck someone else, when youve been fucking other people behind her back the whole time.

you got no room to be upset.

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>>41310246

>>41310255
Hi Anon,

You shouldn't purchase oral tren from a newly verified source on Reddit.

Sincerely,
Anon

>>41310205
Nah dude, dont want no kids, just success and the single life. Getting divorced as we speak. Looking forward to being single again.

>>41310259
We'll we had been broken up for months when I was referencing the fucking. but she decided she wanted to hangout/use me to do her taxes and shit. Then fuck me to get me back for using gear whatever that means.

>>41310255
Tell us why it is worth it.

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>>41310285
dont be a beta, dont worry about some whore who wants to fuck someone else and lie to your face. Shes probably gonna fuck him. Move on. My best advice to you.

>>41310295
It's more potent than injectable tren

>>41310301
Maybe if I Run an AI I'll care less lol ordering one tomorrow.

>>41310255
Because oral tren is fucking stupid. Tren is already shit for your system, make it oral and that almost quadruples. More side effects, worse results.

Think with your head, not with 4chan. Ive never even heard of oral tren. Then again who knows what shit is out now a days.

This coming from someone who ran 1200mg of tren while on cycle.

>>41310306
And what does that mean?

>>41310272
>don't want no kids, just success and the single life.
that's sad

i hope you die happy in your luxury boat

>>41310325
Probably will from a severe heart attack and a bad bitch on my dick. If not itll probably be face down like chris farley.

>>41310333
low iq

>>41310321
It will give me unmatchable gains but my liver might fail

>>41310347
I mean, if youd like to think that, but thats just like youre opinion, man.

>>41310333
why don't you want a son

you can put gh in his cheerios and he'll be a 6'5 aryan god.

>>41310411
Because I just dont see children as viable. Im happy where im at currently. Possibly in the future my mind might change. As for now, Its not in my plan.

>>41310358
You could just inject more tren to make up for the lack of potency and not have your liver die?

>>41310272
Years ago you were super into her. Posting her here.

Story time, my dude. What happened?

Also taco leave your ex duh

>>41310449
>Also taco leave your ex duh
really nigger

>>41310449
Yea dude, that was a while ago. Came home two weeks ago, looked at her and said i didnt want to be married anymore, Im over marriage, its a scam. Really no point. We were happier together when we didnt have a piece of paper "unifying" us.

Its really that simple.

Good to see you again bimbo.

>gf just gave herself a skrillex haircut
>has the nerve to ask me how it looks after I said I didn't think she should do it
>now I'm the bad guy because I responded with "could be worse" and she's crying saying how she likes it and just wanted my approval to feel pretty blabla

Quick breakup tips? Tired of this bitches mental illness

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>>41310456
I mean, doesn't invalidate my advice does it? Besides last week I came in her, fisted her, got my fill of milky titties and bounced. Nbd.

>>41310465
Well are you gonna keep seeing her? Obviously don't make the same mistakes with a new ho.

Marriage probably wasn't a scam when there were a lot more decent people in the dating pool, but I wouldn't trust anyone lady or guy with half my assets and my well being in general.

As long as you're happy and see it is a positive growth, good for you man.

You still look better than me.

>>41310490
>Quick breakup tips?
9mm should do the trick

>>41310490
>Tired of this bitches mental illness
>thinking this is specific to just your girlfriend


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You're in for a hell of a ride friendo. Although the skrillex haircut is an instant red flag.

>>41310490
Are you the same guy that got angry at his girl for wanting to talk about feeling with you?

Wanting validation from your partner isn't "mental illness" you're just an asshole.

Yeah totally just say "okay I'm leaving and not coming back" quick breakup. Obviously don't try to make it work because you give zero fucks dude damn. Not mirin.

>>41310496
I have a prenup and very expensive lawyers. I already told her the terms. Shes getting 7 months at my beach house and a free car. other then that she isnt getting anything else.

weve become toxic so staying with her wouldnt change anything. Getting a dissolution and just going back to dating would change how we still feel towards each other. I care about her and ill always be there for her, but we would be happier finding other people to spend out lives with.