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>>41169944
why

>>41169963
because this is the one true fraud general

Use this thread.

Bouncing back from severe muscle loss due to illness. Just started a 600mg test-e per week cycle. How much will this make me blow up?

>>41170018
Calories in calories out you fucking idiot

Took 200 mg DNP an hour ago and now I'm itchy

How long do I have to love realistically?

>>41170145
Yeah but I'm binge eating like fucking crazy right now in response to prolonged extreme starvation, will I blow up in terms of muscle or just get fat as fuck?

>>41170393
Depends how much you eat. If you eat a shitload you'll go hippo mode and gain muscle but also lots of fat.

>>41169944
Sadik Hadzovic Mr. Olympia for Classic Physique Division 2017
calling it now

Are Pharmacom Labs da bess?

>>41170478
No source talk faggot I ironically DELETE THIS or get banned

>>41170478
>>41170484
Labs =/= sources
or am I wrong here?

>>41170541
mods are corrupt fuggers, they'll ban you anyways

>>41170541
>labs from where you can buy roids are not sources

Did this make sense in your mind?

Anyone have experience recomping on tren with virtually no muscle at all? Skinny fat here, just started TRT 200 mg weekly. Just need to even out and get some more mass.

>>41170388
hope you have your antihistamines lil nigga

>>41170409
Idgaf at this point. I think a lot of it will depend on how quickly this test-e kicks in though.

>>41170393
youre looking at like 30 lbs of muscle/fat

>>41170698
Over a month

>>41169944
>shaves his armpits
lel what

>>41170388
you're already dead anon.

>>41170728
Try it sometime, less body odor.

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>>41170647
>taking steroids without years of lifting experience

>2016+1
>people are still doing this
smdh
ishygddt

>>41170747
Musk is good.

>>41170751
if he's on tren it doesn't even matter, unless he deliberately starves himself he will gain a considerable amount of muscle

>>41170751
If you have money to spend who cares. You won't be able take full advantage of the roids with a shit diet and routine but whatevs.

>>41170747
>>41170728
this >>41170753
but more guys should definitely trim it, long armpit hair is pretty gross

>>41170780
Nah I like body hair on myself and my ladies so it's nbd.

My ex has a happy trail I adore

>>41170784
>>41170780
>>41170753
>>41170747
is he trying to attract other dudes?
only people i know who shave their body hair is women, and faggots
and he aint a women

>>41170541
>buying roids
>not just having them already

Cmonn

>>41170794
Body hair I remove only if I really want to see intense separation; but that's rarely.

>>41170794
maybe
that or he does it because it feels nice and clean

Planning my blast for this summer. Gimmie your fav bulking stacks bros.

>>41170643
A lab does not mean the source though.
Even ugl sources use a different name for their own labs.
Asking if Pheizer or Galenika testosterone is good gives no clue or indication of where to get it
>did this make sense in your mind?
I understand the argument, but we can relax a bit
>>41170585
I got banned once for "brapp"ing an ass pic kek

>>41170808
i aint no faggot but i shaved my butthole once thinking itd be nice and clean feeling but nah i ended up having an even sweatier, itchier asshole than before so thats a fuckin lie
>>41170802
wh the fuck u tryin to show intense separation with hair removal u fuckin queer u tryin to get dudes lickin ur arm pits and asshole aint ye u faggot

>>41170835
Contest prep. Duh.

>>41170811
trt test
100mg tren eod

perfect cycle for me. tren sides go from mild to stupid if i up it to 150.

>>41170834
>I got banned once for "brapp"ing an ass pic kek
Good you fucking twat

>>41170835
yeah I personally keep body hair other than legs and arms fairly well trimmed, but I don't have very thick body hair in general, and I don't sweat much

>>41170862
I got banned from brapping the ass pic of the dead girl in the london terrorist attack, hes not the only one

>>41170910
... I want to see this.

>>41170910
>>41170862
It was legit the only time I ever did it.
But I find those utterly hilarious

>>41170854
What's bulking on tren like?

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Reminder to trim those nostril hairs, especially if you're with a short girl.

>>41171015
... This chick would be pregnant all the time. I would breed the fuck out of her.

>>41171039
We'll duh she's built for it

>>41171039
Yes breasts implants means she has good breeding genetics

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>>41171015

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>>41170811
> bulking in the summer

>>41171015
> women arent obje-

>>41171068
I stay leanish all year mate

>>41170989
Your appetite goes through the roof but instead of being stored as fat it all goes to muscle

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Clomid only to increase natty test production, Ye or Nah?
One anon mentioned adding in var @ 60 with clomid @ 100 for that der "natty cycle"

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So i've been bulking for 4 weeks eating 3100-3200 calories a day, I'm planning on hopping on my first 2 week clen cycle; maxing out on 140 mcg, realistically if I cut down my calories to 2000,eat clean and do cardio how many pounds can I burn within those 2 weeks?thx brahs.

>>41171117
Would be cost efficient and safer to just hop on some test if you're looking to dip your toe in the pond

>>41171153
For what purpose? What gains do you think you could have made in those 4 weeks? Clen though, really? Who told you this would be a good idea?

Lol previous thread...
Roiding for that bodies, how is that real,
Like nigga just eat more macros, like just learn muscle contraction

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>>41171208
m8 i've gained pretty significant muscle in that 4 week bulk, just answer the fucking question and stop questioning my decision using clen

>>41171236
You'll probably just lose the water weight you gained. Retard.

without gear can't you only physically add like 1 pound of lean mass per week I think the Roberts study said that.

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Will 60mg var daily and 200mg/week test save me from cutting this hard?

Sorry if image is too big, switched to android and now enjoying shit posting from mobile

>>41171049
Cmon jerry. Those aren't fake.

>>41171323
hwat do you mean

>>41171411
Meaning I'm not gonna shrink by eating in a big deficit and doing gonzo workouts if I keep up the gear

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>>41171375
>breasts that large cant possibly be fake!
Cmon man

>>41171323
Is that a 2k deficit or a 2k cal total

>>41171429
That was 2k in a 2 hour workout...total for the day is gonna be 4k plus according to the watch

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>>41171436
>according to the watch

>>41171453
Yeah I know...

I wear a HR monitor with it plus it has all my stats in it. I like to think it's at least somewhat close

>>41171482
Are you losing a lb a day
I have doubts youre at a 4k deficit
But yes roids help against catabolism

>>41171482
how do you think you're burning 1k every hour for 2 hours

the fuck are you doing man

>>41171514
True enough.

There's probably no good way of measuring calorie burn outside of a lab.

I'm pretty sure it was at least 1k considering my HR and all the other stats. I just needed to hear that I can cut hard without big consequences taking this stuff, so it's all good...will post pics in about 6-8 weeks

I've got about 15lbs of fat to drop to get to 10% and that's not impossible. I'm 230lbs now at 17%, and I gained 7lbs of muscle in about 7 months. Worth it getting a bit fat

please discuss source

of inspiration when lifting

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>>41171911
i used to go to a real deal gym, but usually just filled with older folks when i was there.
started going to a planet fitness with tons of hotties, so planet fitness is my primary gym now
some that's my inspiration

will post progress pics after 2 weeks dnp if I'm still alive

>>41172020
google "dnp pastebin" by hungry. what are your stats currently?

you wont die dumbass

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Hey. I (female) want to get thicc. I am in love with pic related ms body but it took her 8 years to build it. She's thiccer than usual but going to cut now.

Is low dose anavar safe and going to get me to my goal body in a significant amount of time earlier than doing this natty?

>>41172074
>I wanna look more feminine, is taking steroids a good way to accomplish this?

you're literally retarded

>>41172122
but how will a low dose ruin me when a lot of ig fitness gurus use it and are fine?
I want to build muscle faster and look like i lift after a year

>>41172122
>I want to taking a cutting roid to get doughy
feminism

>>41172074

being that kind of thicc as a female is purely genetics.
You work with what you get.

You can make yourself look thiccer by working out especially around the hips/ass area, look more than just sticks and bones, but getting to that woman's figure is pure genetics and also likely photoshop lol. It's extremely rare she's that fat but somehow lacking fat in her belly area..

I mean or you can get liposuction..

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>>41172074
>posts a whore with very little muscle mass and fake looking tits
>h-hey silly boys, help me get (fat) thicc xD

get the fuck off my board you roastie whore

i bet you make a squish noise when you sit down, like a beef sandwich with extra extra horsey sauce

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>>41172198
FUCk you. I want to look like this and ahe has muscle

I want big quads and glutes

>>41172231
you'll never look like her because you're ugly

consider a more realistic role model

>>41172271
but i have an hourglass body so it's possible
Other girls look bulky thicc but she's smooth and feminine

Please help

>>41171153
LEAVE HUMANITY BEHIND

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>>41172314
>but i have an hourglass body
doubt it

>Other girls look bulky thicc but she's smooth and feminine
because she's fat

you really don't get it huh

fat can (and usually is) feminine, but fat distribution is purely genetic and you probably look like shit

>>41172231
>ended up here on accident
>tfw I'll never be a cute waif

Genetics and cycling

>>41172380
okay well how can i try to build that kind of body
there should be some positive progress
made with lifting and var?

Can i mix test E raw pwder with veggie oily and benzy alchole and then put it in a poto f boilikg water for an hour to sterilize it then pin the stuff?

thanks

>>41172408
yes, slam var and do literally any dumb program that hits glutes 2x a week now get the fuck off my autistic steroid blog

>>41172509
no i have more questions

2.5 mg per day or 5 for anavar

>>41172546
no i dont want a permanently enlarged clit
what are var raws? I thought I just could buy from Reddit

>>41172074
just get ass implants bb

where you at by the way?

I suffer with quite bad insomnia desu... will steroids allow me to overcome this?

>>41172631
Yeah just take 1g DNP and you'll sleep for life :)

Hope this helps.

>>41172577
>no i dont want a permanently enlarged clit
why not

that takes pegging to a whole new level

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Is there any excuse for not homebrewing aside from being a little pussy bitch? It's much cheaper and you have 100% control over the purity.

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>>41172604
>just get ass implants bb
those look like ass

and not in a good way

>>41172722
harder to hide from family/friends, not just LE

so if you have your own place or ppl who dont care go for it dude

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Got my first cycle coming in two weeks from now lads, I cannot be anymore excited

>100mg ED Anavar - 1-8 weeks
>500mg Test E/week - 1-14 weeks
>Nolvadex 40/40/20/20 - 16-20 weeks

All while eating a calorie defecit getting about 1800-2000cals per day. High protein, low carb, medium fat.

How's this cycle lads? What kind of gains should I be expecting? (sry for lame af question)

>>41172778
Forgot to mention I do have Arimidex on hand in case of gyno of course

>>41172778
>blasting while cutting

kys

eat less and save money for when you're bulking retard

>>41172792
Fuck fine I will. I'd be 6 weeks into my natty hard cut by the time I get the gear anyhow...

So would you recommend bumping up calories to around maintenance or slightly more?

>>41172792
Not him but
> implying that's a blast

>>41171425
You are going to shrink because you're in deficit.

>>41172799
its his first cycle and he probably looks dyel lmao just anavar would be a blast for him

>>41172139
Yes var can help a little bit to grow the muscles in your ass and shit, but you have to stay fat on top of it, too. DM me and I can explain some other stacks that can help a girl.

>>41172815
>its his first cycle and he probably looks dyel
You're not wrong. Next cycle after that I am definitely throwing Tren in there tho

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>one day of DNP and I already have pins and needles in my feet
>probably onset of peripheral neuropathy

are you KIDDING ME

>>41172577
You can't just buy from reddit, you have to find a source. Raws are the powder that you would mix up into drops you dose with an eyedropper with VG or something (that's how I suggest it). Also you can just buy the liquid.

Don't buy the 'lady var' pills that's lame. Just do like one or two drops morning and night (each drop being 2.5mg) and go from there.

pinned my first 250mg of test e yesterday, what kind of results can I expect from a first cycle? Ive heard varried opinions, some people say expect your lifts to increase a ton but won't look any different, and other say you'll look a lot bigger.

>>41172830
slow down bro. focus on this cycle for now

>>41172839
yeah that's not PN

>>41172857
that's peripheral neuropathy

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>>41172866

>>41170794
Wow you're so manly. I'm sure you're a manlet too lmao

My tranny friend sounded so disappointed I threw out my dresses lmao

>>41172546
Gettin some heat today.

That onahole on the left looks tight though
I need to get that one, think my current one is too big, even though people complain about it being small
Smh

>>41172866
could be edema from water i guess

>>41172852
It depends on the work you put in in there gym and diet, my lifts skyrocketed and I put on 25 lbs that I actually kept while looking leaner, but I autistically tracked macros and pushed the shit out of myself at the gym

>>41172198
>i bet you make a squish noise when you sit down
Fucking dying over here lmao

ay where can I get some DNP

>>41173031
Onions, brah

>>41173031
it's sold as fertilizer for plants

make sure to ignite it, if it doesn't catch fire it's not legit

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>>41173051
Round my parts the only fert we get is NPK, lime or urea.

>>41173050
3kg/day should do it? or just stick with 2 for my first cycle

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>>41173067
That's not what I meant you dense faggot.

I can't give sources but here's your first clue

>>41172852
More mental than physical (at least it was for me), but you will like it.
Nothing amazing but good. Dippin them feet in.
.
and while everyone is talking about dnp,
after my last run i think it's pretty over rated.
it works pretty well, but feeling like shit, the unknown risks. i get better feeling results w diet and cardio. this coming from a guy who is no stranger to a little belly and hates dieting

>>41173031
>>41172038

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>>41172792
>>41172797
Actually wait how about this hear me out senpai

I'd be 6 weeks into my natty cut by the time my gear comes in. What if I went in the first 4 weeks of var and test maintaining my cut, then when the Test E starts to kick in I start upping my cals into a bulk for the remainder 8-10 weeks?

That seems like a sweet transition from a cut to a bulk to me desu

>>41173111
what did you run it at friend

and what was your diet/cardio like during?

Is it ok to inject 2mls at once?

What's a good age to start a first cycle if you started lifting at around 15. 21-22 years old? And would a good first cycle just be 500mg of test e per week? Or something milder? Hoping to compete in BB shows, if that means anything.

>>41173207
500mg or 600mg is good depending on the strength of your dose. basically 2ml of the solution per week.

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>>41173130
I've ran dnp up to 750mg back in my wild days but that was retarded. i legit felt like i could just die.
normally ran it 500mg,
then took like 2 years off of it, just finished a recent one of 500mg for bout 10 days.
i did it as sort of a start up to my current cut, which doesn't really make sense on paper.
.
cardio/diet - hiit and carb cycling. trusted and true and gave me more quality results than burning to death.
i'm a typical italian, arms and calves grow no problem. but I can get a belly very easily.

>>41173207
I wouldn't say any younger than 22-23. When was your last growth spurt?

i'm fairly new to lifting (since january) and i'm just over 150 pounds, is it worth taking steroids just to boost the size a little. i'm not looking to get bodybuilder ripped just wanna stop looking like a stick man

Does dnp sides depend on your bf%?

Start of cut I ran up to 1000mg basically no sides at all. Fast forward 6 weeks later im close to single digits and almost dying on 250mg (took a 4 week break in between cycles)

>>41173254
youre gonna get flamed badly but do it if you want. The Bhasin study basically showed you could be a 35% BF couch potato on a 20 week cycle of TEST and still gain more than a natty lifter

>>41173258
I've done it low bf and higher,
I can't really say, mine have been so long go
Could be more with potency
but 1000MG? holy fuck man

>>41173266
Water counts as lean body mass.

You need a positive nitrogen balance and micro tears in tissue in order to create an efficient recovery process. No lifting means no micro tears. A couch potato probably maintains a nitrogen balance of nothing. P

>>41173126
No one?

Fuck it, I'll try it and let y'all know how that works for me

>>41173403
it's pretty short sighted/rushed, but you could.
i think you're chasing too much at once,but whatev could try it

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>>41173453
It's mainly because I wanna be as shredded as I can by the time Paradiso 2017 rolls around. After that I want to bulk into thicc mode

Gotta do it for the rave slut mires my dude.

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>>41173475
so when forget the idea of bulk.
just go hard with cutting, lots of orals, carb cycle, cardio.
man who chase 2 rabbits, catches none

>>41173166
Depends which spot but if glutes then yeah

>pins and needles all over my body after one dose of 200mg DNP

Why is my life so shit? I just want to cut

>>41173808
you're life aint shit famm
but it is poison, not sure about the pins n needles feeling tho.

First time looking through this thread... Why do you guys do this to yourselves?

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Would Dbol be the best oral to run with a TRT dose of test to get MASSIVE?

>>41172886

>throwing out dresses

Your legacy will live through me jerrysama, I have a play date with another feminine benis tomorrow uwu.

>>41172408
>okay well how can i try to build that kind of body
1. Waist cincher
2. Look up the workout vids of Brazilian girls with huge booty and ginormous thighs. It's basically all kinds of lower body workout + roids.

please tell me why i should't roid
I just want to hit my natty limit and maintain it forever.
is 18 too young?
Will i FUCK my life up?

>>41174176
Goodnight liver

>>41174245

You should workout for years before shutting down natural hormone production. You might even grow in the next few years prior to roiding

>>41174245
It's generally advised to wait until at least 21 my man you're still developing.

>>41174265
I'm talking about an 8 week cycle of dbol in between TRT bloods

>>41172722
> control over the purity
oh shit, you are actually brewing test from precursors like some breaking bad shit? wow bro, wow.

cuz i had no idea there was a huge problem with underdosed test.

>>41174326
im 5'4"
hope is lost

>>41174372
In that case spend all of your allowance on HGH, your growth plates aren't closed yet and you still have hope.

>>41172893
what are your recommended protein/fat/carb macro numbers?

>>41174396
tfw I never jumped on the HGH when I had a chance, and now I'm 23 and forever 5'11

>>41172822
Isn't anything else going to make a girl look manly?
>>41172840
but how do I find one? I've never even heard of drops lmao
>>41174240
waist training doesn't do shit

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Why is it always dyel fat fucks or middle aged bald losers with beards who have never been fit who keep saying "taking over 1-2g is insane"?

It's pretty clear you see low level pros or big fuckers like rich piana/enchanced athlete/bostin take at least 3-5 grams of gear a week.

Meanwhile muffintop mcgoatie the 45 year old "vet" who has never competed keeps talking how the young people rely on too much on gear and that 300 test and 300 deca is already a heavy cycle.

>>41172198
... The fuck is going on in that pic?

I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

How stupid would it be to take have a scoop of Mr Hyde a few hours after 40mg of clen?

Does it mean my kidneys are fucked up if I have a sort of hyper-response to sodium intake in regards to bloating?

Natty I could eat a shitload of sodium and barely bloat, now I'm on test and a lot of tren, and if I get even a couple grams from something like coldcut meats I get a huge moon face even with e2 at a good level.

Would increasing water intake help?

>>41170647
Recomping nicely at 100mg ed with trt test e and asin 12.5mg EOD. Leaning out like a mofo put on 18 lbs in the 4 weeks I've been using this shit

What is the "involuntary paki" hair growth steroid?

>>41175285
tren

my beard grows so fast by the end of the day it looks like i haven't shaved in 3 days

bodyhair too.

>>41174759
unless you want to look like Ricardo Pannini, running 1-2g is insane imo

>>41174759
hate this shit... "ehehe xd over the years i have learned, less is more!!!"

take less is more all the way then, and inject ZERO mg of gear! stay natty you fucking faggot, afterall less is more right

everybody post their receding hairline

everybody rate

>>41175570
I miss JM

>>41172074
Only thing that is going to get thic on lady var is your clit

My schedule has been all over the place and my sunday pin has been varying by a few hours for the past couple of weeks but it feels good to be able to sit back and relax and pin while watching the newest episode of Dragonball Super
Please tell me im not the only one who does this.

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>>41175570
jokes on you i was bald as a natty already h-heh

>>41175615
>tfw no one threatening to crush peoples joints into dust with their hammer

>>41174201
Post pics of the frotting

>>41175758
You are, that shows shit

Is there any chance of HGH increasing height if my growth plates have already closes? I'm 23 and have been running Test since last May.

>>41176206
I know it is but i cant stop watching it. Also there is litteraly nothing else to watch this season, I maybe got 3 shows on the go.

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>>41175570
Only 8 or 9 weeks into my first blast.

P.s i started balding when I was like 16
P.s.s I haven't shaved in like 2 weeks. I just want to come to the point where hair production comes to a full haunt.

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>>41176282
Theres plenty
You just need to enjoy moeblobs

>>41176309
age

my hairline literally receded a bit when i was 13-14 or so, then hasn't moved an inch even after multiple tren blasts

>>41176393
I do enjoy moeshit but the content of it this season is lack luster. Erosensei manga is good shit though.

>>41176426
Oh yeah, i forgot to mention that I'm 24. I've been able to grow a full beard since I was like 17 as well so I guess it a trade off. Only down side to that is that I'm not allowed to have facial hair at my job.

>>41176242
>23
>has already run test

dont even bother

>>41175352

he should eat less burgers and train more probably.

fucking hate all these bald, fatfucks in tanktops trying to give advice on steroid articles.

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Why do I need so much more ai on a cut
Its so stupid

>>41176459
Are you calling this body lackluster

is it safe to inject 2ml in quads?

>>41176547
u mad bro

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>>41176547
how much tren are you on right now, lel

>>41176552
Didn't know that it was this lewd, looks like I got something else to add to my list.

>>41169944
source talk

>>41169944

How do people like sadik keep theire hair while blasting so fucking much?

Is it purely genetic lottery?

>>41176679
no dude they obviously have a secret that they arent sharing with millions of natty bald cucks

>>41176766
?

>>41176679
winning the genetic lottery
on steroids
muslim

are you the guy posting all that anti American propaganda?

>>41176821
What?

So what's the best training for a fraud?
Gvt?
Ppl?
Bro split?

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>>41176901

Trying to plan out my second blast and not too sure which compound I want to run. I want to put on a bit more mass that I did with just test but I don't want to get too puffy. So I'm either thinking;
1-4 Tbol 60mg ed
1-16 Test E 500mg ew
1-16 Nandrolone cyp 400mg ew
OR
1-4 adrol 75mg ed
1-16 Test E 300-400mg ew
1-16 eq 600-800 mg ew

Third blast is going to be a tren blast so idk if I should just go with the nandrolone so I can have some 19nor experience or not.

>>41176957
>tbol at 60
>adrol at 75

Lmao

Test 400
Eq 600-800
Adrol 50 for 6 weeks
Stana last 6 weeks


Or swap the kicker for 4 weeks sdrol I you wanna stay dry

>>41176986
I've already ran adrol at 50mg though.
How much better is winny than var for a finisher. I also ran that my first blast and didn't really see the point in it. Maybe I was a bit more bloated than I should of been.

>>41177037
Winny is simply better in every way desu

>>41170799
how to conjure roids?

>>41170989
its akin to magic desu

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>>41171068
>being natural

>>41177050
I guess I'll give it a shot. I was under the impression that winny should only be ran in single digits bf. But then again my first cycle is consisted of adrol, test and var so clearly I dont listen anyway.

>>41177097
You're thinking of masteron, Winny will harden and strengthen at any time, of course its optimal lower bf because of its hardening properties and vascularity but that's the same as any juice

>>41177097
Fuck it run the sdrol you seem like you like to live dangerously, 4 weeks to kick and 4 weeks to sinish. Forget the stana and adrol

>adjustung my training to just 30ish mins a day eryday than an hour 3 or 4 times a week.


Apparently the gains are greater esp on gear.

At the very least i dont get bored ay 30 mins a day since it doesnt drag on

>>41177131
If I run sdrol at 10mg ed pwo can I just run it the whole cycle?

>>41177153
I'm not even finished benching after 30 minutes

Just injected second time brahs. Is it normal for a small speck of blood to come out after the injection? This didn't happen the first time

>>41177219
u gon die

>>41177244
whatever it takes

>>41177219
Yes

When should I start taking arimidex?

>>41174334
nah he's baiting, as long as you have a healthy liver, 30mg of dbol ed for 6 weeks if you're a virgin will be gains city, theres a lot of good quality dbol out there as well since its cheap so you wont need hoards, you'll need ai tho, methylestradiol is potent and thats what youll be getting

>>41177201
No, 20mg 4 weeks, 6 off with sdrol, its crazy shit

>>41177283
Test e?
10 days in

>>41177423
Probably right about now. Start at maybe 0.5mg twice a week and see where you feel after that.

>>41177423
Does 0.25mg eod sound good? or should I just wait for symptoms?

Also if I did a minor frontload of 1200mg on a 600mg weekly dose, does that change your answer?

>>41177258
live fast die young leave a grossly shredded corpse

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>>41174588
>>41174396

Hold on lads. I'm 5'8 and 21 years old, doesn't melatonin increase HGH? Why inject HGH when it's (supposedly) dangerous when I could take melatonin?

Not hating, just asking since I'd like to grow to 5'11 before the plates close.

>>41177618
Why take a pill that might increase your hgh levels a tiny bit when you could just inject real hgh and know for sure that it's working?

>>41177646
What are the side effects of injecting HGH?

>eat t3
>eat multivitamin
>bite off a chunk of letro
>bite off a chunk of caber
>eat anavar
>eat superdrol
>eat vitamin b6

Seriously, these pills are far, far more of a pain in the ass than just jabbing myself.

god forbid I go on a cut and add dnp and clen as well, fuck sake.

>>41177660
Severe bankruptcy

>>41177665
The fuck you using letro for instead of regular ai and why are you stacking anavar with superdrol.

>>41177667
this

>>41177665
between ancillaries, current blast orals, le animal pak vitamins meme (those alone are like 10), fish oil, melatonin, some meds i need to take for an unrelated problem, ashwaganda, capped preworkout (easier to transport than powder), the occasional baby aspirin, dandelion root, vit d3 and recreational oxy once in a while i take about 45-53 pills a day. fucking terminally ill old people mire that pill volume tbqh

>>41177750
What do you look like currently?

>>41177667
>600 dollars a month for illegal shit and 1200$ for legal

how long do you need to inject it for?

Is 600 mg/week of Testosterone E and 30 mg of dianabol per day good for my second cycle?

If I were to get some pharma HGH they are not in vial so not normal slin needles.
Where do I get the cartridges/injection devices for pharma hgh without prescription? Or can they be bought at a drug store without seeing like you're a /fraud/?

>>41177762
surprisingly fat and ugly considering all of the above kek

>>41177461
Start at 0.5 EOD for 4 weeks and get a blood test, symptoms can be placebo, e2 is always right

>>41177461
Also fronloading is begging for sides IMHO, use an oral kicker

>>41177822
how long does arimidex take to kick in? will symptoms decrease in a day or so?

>>41177660
You got $20 a day spare for 4 months minimum?

>>41177665
I hope to god you're running test too

>>41177780
4 months for results but use for life, anything u der 4ui a daybis worthless, BBS use 22ui a day

>>41177853
Yes.

>>41177888
>use for life

Doesn't that shit enlarge your heart?

>>41177849
Arimidex acts within a few hours for me

>>41177783
500mg for 12 and dbol 30-30-40-40
Or drop the bol and run proviron at 50 end all cycle

>>41177787
Chemist

>>41177660
At low doses: Better hair, skin, fat loss and sleep
At high doses: Water retention, peripheral numbness, maybe organ growth

>>41177840
That's not how it works. Frontloading doesn't give you higher blood levels of test it just allows you to reach the peak level of your cycle sooner. You won't get worse sides, just earlier.

>>41177894
Unless you wanna be a bodybuilder fuck HGH, the difference it makes isn't worth it, you want the gains tren the shred t3 and clen.
Or CJC grhp/ mk677

>>41177957
From personal experience and and mates too the sudden influx seems to give harshbsides quickly, but to each his own man

>>41177957
Ever had a test spike? They absolutely come with side effects

>>41177994
>half life of 10 days
>spike

retard

>>41177780
Lol where do you get your calculationsfrom?

Current dosing to promote growth: 0.025mg/kg/day https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9685459
1iu is 0.33mg
Taking you are an average male of 80kg you'd need 2mg or 6IU a day. (These are just physiological levels). Treatment is continued for several years and final heigh increase is 2-3 inches on average.
32 ampoules of 4IU HGH is around 1600$. That wouldn't even last you a month.

>>41177958
um a good chunk of the gay men at my gym have prescriptions for hgh but that's due to the fact that they have aids. if you were to approach them I'm sure you could work out a deal if you really wanted it and couldn't get to a pharmacist

>>41178007
Are you trolling?

>>41178007
It takes what, 8 hours for the body to absorb the test? Are you telling me after injecting a gram of test, there won't be a spike?

>>41177691

letro is far cheaper on a potency level, its easy enough to bite off a 1/3rd chunk every now and again.

Why am I using superdrol and anavar? i don't know and i don't care.

>>41178027
Prescribed shit ain't cheap either, if you can get it >$5 a ui you're lucky and you should really be using about 8 a day

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TALLGEESE

>>41178015
I'm a skeleton lad, 67 kg.

>>41178069
Okay lol, just make sure to do regular bloods with drugs like that.

>>41178055
He doesn't u derstrandbhalf lives and elimination times

>>41178075
So it would still be 1500 a month dude, and 4 months you might barely grow 0.5cm, it takes about 1 year to see an increase of 2cm(so not even an 8inch). Just get hgh out of your head unless you've got 10-20k laying around you don't need anymore. If you do low dosage for 4 months you're basically just flushing your money down the drain for nothing.

>>41178103
So not even an inch* lmao

Obviously I've done the research on this but what are the early sides you guys personally notice of high and low estrogen?

>>41178103
>>41178116

So that 5'4 anon is doomed?

>>41178130
If you obviously did research why ask

>>41178146
Because obviously different people have different experiences and I want to get an idea of the possible scenarios I could expect

>>41170411
Nah Flex Wheeler will take it for lolz

>>41178131
Yep, he can always have the meme surgery and look like an alien with his elongated lower legs and short torso tho.

>>41178131
ryan?

>>41178130
High estro: puffy everything
Low estro: thoughtclouds, like having a handicapped brain or Sth once when I accidentally crashed my test or estro with lgd. It went away in 3 days after discontinuation tho.

>>41178183
Extremely similar to low/high test

>>41178228
How long until early estro symptoms arise do I have to sort shit out before gyno is a risk?

so do low doses like 500mg still make you go bald?

>>41178270
about tree fiddy minutes

or about the same time it would take to google this shit

>>41178289
no but 501mg will

>>41178289
only if you have cucked genes

>>41178289
It doesn't make you go bald it just speeds up the balding process if you are already genetically predetermined

>>41178270
You can crash your estro in under 24 hours if really wanted to

>>41178327
Technically every man is predertermined to go bald at some point so it's really risky for that, since you can really stop balding by eating a plant-based diet, showering only with cold water and not masturbating

>>41178228
For me it appeared in like 3 days where the first 2 in hindsight I could tell somethin was off but it wasn't until day 3 I linked it to my higher LGD intake since those days. Tho I don't think it'd be possible for me to know for a fact my estro is starting to drop until its too low. I just know what dosage to avoid without a test base now.

>>41178327

depends.

I can take grams of test/tren and my hair isn't affected.

I take masteron/anavar and my hair follicles start thinning on the sides(ie you can start seeing "transparent" spots on the side of my head).

however it returns back to it's healthy state after I stop taking the DHT shit.

Guys I have been lifting for 6 years. For the past 2 years or so I haven't made much gains just improved specific areas and sometimes set a new PR. I have been going up to 82-85kg several times and cut to 72-78kg over that time but I always end up more or less the same bodyfat level and weight at the end (minor increase). I can be pretty lean at 72kg but once I get near 80kg I just seem to become fat, no matter how slow the bulk. Now I'd love a really lean physique at 78-80kg. Currently at 75kg bodyweight with something like 13%bf I guess? (Either way a bit too fat for my liking). What would be the best approach using a cycle to get where I want?
Cut first? Just bulk slightly and hope for recomp? Or a big bulk followed by a natty cut later?

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Has anyone here tried melatonin 2? Really wanna try it out, having a terrible olive skintone that i cant stand.
Based Martina big

Where's MasT??

Where does the meme of "you have to have a strong foundation before roiding" come from?

>>41178471
ligaments not being used to the volume and weight you're gonna be doing putting you at risk for injury, not having mastered technique before progressing to serious weights again risk of injury, generally having no real idea of training programs and diet: risk of wasting your time and money.

>>41178341
kill yourself

>>41178497

>lifting heavy while on gear
>lifting heavy at all

thats the sign of you training like a retard, the steroids just punished you faster for it.

>>41178519
lol nah baldie

>>41178530
>>lifting heavy at all
Do you seriously expect natty bodybuilders to get big without lifting heavy

Lads, how do I quickly induce diarrhea? Tried coffee and honey and all that other shit, doesn't work.

How do you go to Frank Zane for gear advice and still can't manage to beat Jeremy Buendia...

lel

>>41178607
Laxatives

>>41178556
actually i am on almost a gram of tren right now and am not losing shit, but ok

the fact that you are researching desperate ass shit like that shows u are the balding one though.

>>41176921
woodberry

>>41178607

try eating at chipotle

>>41178607
food poisoning

>>41178607
yolodoses of certain artificial sweeteners

>>41178607
Eat "sugar free" candy

>>41178984
>>41179027
s/o to old sucralose anal leakage memes, good times

>>41178073
cute nipples

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>>41179133
shut the fuck up you roiding faggot

I will fuck you....

I will.

>>41179155
and i will enjoy it.

what now faggot?

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how to into sterons in nazi germany, pls respond

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>>41179164
give me your contact info?

where do you live?

are you free this weekend?

>>41179169
i live in germany and buy from a dutch source.

>>41179190
no have 2 hookups this weekend, maybe next one.

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>>41179226
like I want masT's seconds, no thanks, but tell ur daddy I said hi

21 days in on dnp at 250mg and things seem to have halted

fags online say it becomes ineffective after 2 - 3 weeks and that you either up the dose to keep things going or come off and take a break to reset tolerance; then there's people saying that there is no tolerance and you're still dropping fat like mad on the same dose

so what's what do I kill myself or

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>>41179269
>things seem to have halted
well looks like you have your answer right there doesn't it

>>41179226
in netherlands or just from a dutch guy?

>>41179283
you're right I haven't seen any visual progress in like a week

not like I want to quit
it's been a joke of a dnp cycle

haven't binged once, no cravings, averaging 1500 cals, haven't lost strength and at the near end of 10% bf

I just sit around smoke weed and finger my butthole all day

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is it normal to be almost limping after pushing 3ml into my VL

also is it too deep putting a 1.5 onch needle almost all the way in?

Freds, my bench is by far the weakest lift.
What can I do apart from pressing more?
Dumbbell press?

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What's a good way to stop adrol bloat?

>>41178530
You grow by lifting heavier weight for more reps. Increase total work done by incorporating drops and rest pause.

>>41179420
Stop taking adrol.
Less salt.

so guys, is it true that I can unload all my jizz into the sweet puss if I'm roiding

>>41179481
Only if you actually meet the sweet puss.

>>41179430
But adrol is good

Sub Q daily erryday crew

So if you plan a testosterone + oral cycle, at what point exactly do you take the oral?

You'd be on the testosterone for 15 weeks or so, you'd be on the oral for a maximum of 5 weeks. So do you take the oral on week 1 to jump start the cycle?

Hey faggots can you give me some guidelines on how to tell if someone is roiding?

>>41179603
suk they dik if it tastes kind of sweet they juicing

>>41179596
either at the beginning to start making gains while your main compounds are saturating in your system or at the end to add a few more pounds of mass

>>41179639
Thanks for answering my question.

>>41179603
Ask them, accept their answer and move on.

It has no effect on you

>>41179603
Why does it matter to you. Live your life and worry about real things

>>41179481
if you mean actually getting laid, depends on how you will look

if you mean raw dogging without worrying about kids, nope, its not like pinning makes you instantly sterile

NEW

>>41179791
>>41179791
>>41179791

>>41179739
>if you mean raw dogging without worrying about kids, nope, its not like pinning makes you instantly sterile

this is what I meant. oh noe

>>41179481
roiding isnt enough. if you are not a naturally good looking guy, you need to have a top notch physique and you need to take care of your skin and hair and your clothing style.

basically, once you are asthetic af 8/10 body wise (fit standards, not normie standards) you need to start having some sort of routine like a girl where you take care of yourself daily or weekly.

taking care of your appereance is like halph of the deal already

>>41179876
nvm thats not what you meant, no you can still make someone preggo on roids

>>41179876
>halph

>>41179269
>>41179392
>eating 1500 cals
>where you would lose weight even if dnp somehow magically became "ineffective"

its called you being a fat fuck and not actually tracking what you're ravenously shoving down your fat ass