/fraud/ steroids general

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>>41147220
just finished my first cycle; ran 500mg test for 8 weeks (the shitty UGL that made my vials underdosed them and there was only 16mls in 2 vials instead of 20)

went from 87kgs to 93kgs and have maintained similar bodyfat percentage

Thinking about cutting @800-1k cals under maintenance as soon as i finish my PCT and my natty test rebounds, what's the protocol on this? am i about to lose my gains?

>>41147566
i thought roids were suppose to make you look sexy and stronk, hueg as fuck
did you just not eat right, forget to lift, not sleep, or what?

>just found out my doctor wont prescribe me test because 481 is "normal"
>tfw going to be low test all throughout the rest of puberty
>always have little to no motivation at all, always fatigued, mind is clouded a lot
>mom said she doesn't want test to mess up my horomones
When does it end?

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Thinking about hittin the ronz again

I have 2 amps of test e left over from previous cycles that are UGL but as good as pharma I've had in the past, and 2 UGL vials that have the seal broken (half used)

I shouldn't inject them obviously, but the sealed amps should be fine right?

>>41147220
I see the photo hasn't changed at all, is FL still around?

>>41147721
Do you want to be a manlet? Don't take steroids until you're 21

Whoever told me about post injection pain FUCK YOU for getting me so worried over nothing, this is a pisseningly weak ache

>>41147566
you will lose your gains if you cut that steep on natty test levels, anything approaching 1k deficit is only justified while on aas imo

>>41147985
It depends on a bunch of factors
It can range from nothing to being unable to walk

>>41148007
have dieted 1k under before and didn't lose any mass at all though

>>41147859
Im already 6'3, but then again my dad is 6'7 so I probably can grow more. But then again I dont care.

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Need some help guys
Been during mgf the past couple of days with insulin needles, pinned my forearm cos there scrawny.
Left a lump and red mark in area immediately after, thoughts?

How long can I get away with blasting 600mg test-e until it becomes dangerous?

Going on my first cycle next week. I have everything over the next ten weeks planned out (meals, workouts, work schedule, sleep schedule, financial stability to pull it all off affordably) any advice for a 24 year old lifting for 10 years that isn't common knowledge but more of personal realizations that are worth sharing?

ask a guy who just brewed some npp anything

1/17 EO 130mg/ml

going for 700mg a week for 20 weeks

>>41148060
You are coming of test... Now is the time keep calories, and intensity high...

Cut on your next cycle, or kiss your gains bye bye.

>>41148065
6'3 is the upper limit of height that looks good. Much higher and you start looking like a freak. You probably won't grow any more, though.

>>41148114
Prepare to have constant hard ons.

>>41148153
What if you Just crank one out in the morning? Will that make it subside or are we talking freshman in high school all over again?

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>>41148114
Same
I'm excited and anxious to start my first cycle next month and have everything on hand already.

good luck anon.

I'm curious does anyone here have photos before/after their first cycle?
pic related is me rn. I want to lean out another 5-8 pounds? should i cut more?

thank you in advance, pls no bully

>>41148210
height and weight?

>>41148210
I'm considering documenting it but because of my work I can get in a shit load of trouble of I'm found out so it's kind of a double edged sword.

But nohomoallbromo you look good man. You should get great results in your effort. Just be meticulous. Best of luck brother.

>>41148182
freshman highschool for me. I rub one out at night, and one in the morning. Still fuck my gf every chance I get, and every girl I see on campus, with any attractive feature at all, still makes me stiff.

>>41148256
5'6 @ 148.6 pounds
pls no bully anon

>>41148257
thanks and I will
to you as well man. hopefully you don't run into trouble.

I can't fucking get my eating under control when on tren. I'm entering my 4th week on 100mg ed tren ace and 250 test E/wk. I am leaning out daily, but still i can't stop eating whatever is within sight. I feel like I would be getting better gains from eating cleaner, but its hard to do that when i eat junk and crap and wake up looking better than i did yesterday. Its careless as fuck, its like my impulses have been dialed ip to 100

>>41147985
I find that the biggest cause of pip for me is not holding the needle steady enough while injecting. That in and out motion the needle does while still inside your muscles causes fucking excruciating pip hours later

>>41149420
I had the same experience on tren, anon. Especially with carbs. I'm unsure of how to deal with it... My best guess at this point, in looking back, would be to invest in some modafinil and to keep estorgen low-ish. When my E is high, I'm very prone to binge-ing. And I can eat right through ephedrine so I think moda is your best bet.

Also, what's your bf percentage? Have a current physique pic?

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>tfw done cutting on DNP and am now power blasting at 3 grams of gear a week
>can't eat all the nice salty food anymore because even with letro I get moonfaced and resemble a circle that makes even kim jong un and pajeet jealous.


goodbye bacon, goodbye hotdogs, goodbye premade turkey burger patties, goodbye gammon steaks, goodbye ham shanks, goodbye blood sausages, goodbye middle eastern yogurt drink with sea salt added in.


life really sucks without heavily salted/cured meat.

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Can I lose 10 lbs of fat in 2 weeks on DNP with a 1k calorie deficit

>>41149510
210lbs 16% at 6'1
I won't post progress pics.
I have just recently bought some cardarine, so hoping that will increase my cardio endurance that way i won't get too worried about eating this junk. Keeping cals at 2100/day and lifting 5x/wk. My e2 is in check, and i have unfortunately no desire for trying moda while on cycle

>>41149778
Yes. But you'll basically be in a lethargy coma for the whole 2wks

Are you NEET?

>>41150026

ECA stack is what helps power me through. No lethargy at all. Makes DNP totally worth it

>>41150047
Are you taking like 50-75mg of ephed daily? Savage

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>>41150026
Yeah I'm NEET and on EC stack as well. Hoping for 10-15 lb loss after I lose all the water weight.

>>41150047
How much ephedra do you take daily?

>>41148114
I did a cycle at 24. I felt amazing. Focused, intent, strong. Lifts went up. Bagged a hot ass stripper for a while. Then one day toward the end I saw myself in the mirror while fucking this girl and I did not recognize the hostile ape I saw there. I did my pct (sucked, be prepared to feel depression and apathy for a bit) and I decided to stay natty until I'm like 45-50 when I need a boost. You're in the prime of your life mate you don't need to get your gains from a vial. It's not worth the 25 lb bench increase to lose your sense of self.

>>41149778
Run dnp for 21 days and you may just lose 20 lbs

what are those sikk cunt shorts that everyone is wearing? with the little cuts on the sides of the leg

>>41147721
dude ive been to doctor yesterday and my test is around 220, he said we'll try to raise it. Any idea what he meant by that? or should i just kill myself

>>41150057
Post current bod? Obvs the fatter you are, the easier it'll be to mobilize those fat cells for energy, ie a quicker cut

>>41149777
>what is blood pressure

Why would you want to blast salt like that. Ouch to your health

>>41149777
on dnp right now too, if i don't eat salt i start feeling like i am going to die from electrolytes being fucked up.

>>41150145
Increase your watet consumption. Very important for DNP. Remember, water is what the cell uses for breaking down organic molecules like fatty acids

>>41150238

>sweat and piss 4+ liters of water a day
>drink 4-7 liters of water a day
>without increasing salt intake

its like you want to die or something.

>>41147220
what is better cycle for muscle gain - 250 test e EW + 20mg dbol ED or 500 test e EW both 10 weeks. how big of a difference is there ?

any1 tride Drostanolone? oral mast

>>41150115
first try is probably increasing zinc and vit d (tabs)
if that doesnt help probably clomiphen therapy
if that doesnt help testo creme
if that doesnt help or you can argue test e/c injects

depends on what is wrong with you. if your testicles are kill jump right to test. if your brain glamd doenst work clomi/hcg probably do the trick.

anyway prepair for a min 1 year trial and error pain

>>41150681
10weeks dbol will fuck your liver
do 14-20weeks 500test e

>>41150681
>>41151149

>10weeks dbol will fuck your liver
>do 14-20weeks 500test e

Quit parroting forum bullshit.

You will be fine running DBOL along with test. Personally I cap my oral usage at around 8 weeks.

Then I will take a long period of time off from using any oral steroid. Injectables are used constantly - blast and 'cruise' method.

>>41151149
>t. pussy beta numale cuck liver

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>>41147220

what happened to /fraud/?

this used to be my favourite thread, now it's full of dyels LARPing about blasting 3g's of test a week. RIP.

what's the best anti acid thing i can get without a prescription (OTC or behind the counter) for tren? gives me bad gas and distension.

i had a prescription one from a long time ago and was using that (omeprazole) but i am almost out and need a new one

Ausfag here. How do I get this shit?

Dont want my CC info stolen trying to buy chinese bathtub chemicals
What about customs

Been lifting natty 10 months. Ready to make some real gains

whats that book called with everything you need to know about steroids, fucked if i can remember ??

>>41147811
Why wouldn't you inject the seal broken ones if you're the one that broke the seal?

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>>41147821
He probably does what half the OPs do (like me) which is google "Steroids" and find a pic that can easily be picked out from the catalog as being of steroids.

if i take hgh will i grow taller?

>>41151431
just ask in the locker room. expect to pay more for obvious reasons

doctor puts me on TRT tomorrow, im pretty skinnyfat, can I eat at maintenance and gain muscle/lose fat? it will be nebido and I plan on getting on a cycle after 4 shots - after 32 weeks

Brehs, I need to cut but don't want to stop making gains. How big of a deficit can I afford to cut at on 250mg test?

is trt the best for beginners?

>>41152243
I'm cutting at a 1000cal deficit on 200 a week test E pinned every third day, I hit the gym every morning and 3 evenings a week and haven't lost any strength yet, slightly less endurance but my lifts remained the same, I'm sure I'll hit a point where I will have to increase the cals a little or I might even finish up the cut on keto, I don't have to much further to go

>>41152590
how long have you been cutting?

>>41147566
you don't know what you're doing

>>41147220
>What's the end game here?
You either end up looking like a failed lab experiment, or you stop roiding and MAYBE go back to living a normal life, assuming you haven't fucked yourself up with stupid-ass roids.

Or you can stop NOW and maybe contain and reverse the damage before it's too late. Seriously you guys are almost as dumb as the DNP fags.

>>41149777
I ran DNP for about 6 days last year. 4 days in, no sides. 5th day, skin was flushed and itchy, was a little warm. Insomnia as fuck. 6th day I got extremely ill, threw up every 45 minutes, til I couldn't even replenish the water. Skin got extremely itchy, red spots all over body and had 0 energy. After being bed ridden for three days, finally was able to keep water down. Lost 8 pounds but once I rehydrated it came out to 2 lbs lost

Tried it again a few weeks later. Took one 200mg dose. 8 hrs later, the skin redness, itchiness, and vomiting came back. Lasted about a day.

Fuck "dr" tony huge's fertilizer

>>41152655
Who hurt you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvBVh19s3Wc

my dicke has unironially grown

i mean it just a stronger boner im sur

but its fuckin biger haha

>>41152694
benadryl bro

>>41152325
no cuz all youd be doing is shutting your nuts off with 0 change in test levels

its a good form of birth control though

any of you nerds successfully recomped on just test?

Planning my first cycle now but going to buy about 3 cycles worth of gear and AI, so i dont have to try and receive 3 shipments.. plus I already have the bitcoin.

Gonna be about 1100

But I'm excited.

Anyone have gear or pills shipped in from india?
Planning on getting AI-PCT from there (cheap as fuck) but unsure about customs.

how quickly can i go from 0 to mr olympia? is it even achievable or is it pure genetics?

>>41152746
>$1100 for 3 cycles
lmao

you can buy a kilo of test and brew it up for that kind of money and a lifetimes supply of AI

>>41152724
I was taking 2 benadryl every 4 hrs..just had a bad allergic reaction.

Gonna try another source in the future i think but now that I'm back to working 4 days 12-16 hrs I'm not sure how to run it and get it to clear my system before work. I'll probably just end up trying clen

>>41152601
About 4 weeks so far

>>41152762
DNP > Clen in many ways but you obviously dont respond well to DN at all so clen and t3 and whatever are worth a shot.

>>41152761
> 3 cycles

My bad

3 blasts, 3 cruises, about 48 weeks blasting, 4 diff compounds total

Pharma orals and HCG
TUDCA is pricey
Syringes, sharps container, etc

Not interested in trying to brew it myself desu. Obviously it's cheaper but so is painting your own house. Sometimes you pay for convenience and experience

>>41152791
as a painter let me tell you its easy as fuxk to get a pro finish for a first timer, you just need to put the prep work in and read some articles.

>>41147721
>>41150115
how do you feel on a daily basis? how did you know to go get your test levels checked?

Tbh.

>>41152761
Why risk being the one who gets multiple felonies when you can accomplish the same returns with less risk visiting a hrt doctor?

>>41152791
if you unironically wont paint your own house youre a pathetic man

>>41152805
this
I do carpentry/light construction work and 99% of the reason trades jobs exist is simply because home owners are too lazy to do this shit themselves.

>>41152830
cuz only a very questionable HRT doctor would precribe a healthy man testosterone

and in my country, once its past customs im no longer breaking the law

>>41147566
Why would you only run test for 8 weeks? If it's test e it's only coming into full force around week 4-5 and feeling the best around week 8. Should have done a 12 week cycle m8

>>41152838
That's what I said so thank you I guess

>>41152862
>he doesnt frontload by pinning 1g ED for a week

>>41148071
Dude you're not very well researched at all if you think the site of where you pin will increase size there

>>41152853
The countless ways to lower test levels available make the methods here listed seems silly, messy, and downright dangerous. A prohormone or sarm cycle is enough to test low enough to warrant hrt.

Muscles aren't worth ones freedom

>>41152908
who is every ifbb participant who does site injecting for increased volume no matter how ridiculous it looks

>>41152910
be honest..

have you ever had a needle enter your body, ever?

hahahahahaaahaa
get the fuck out of my thread

>>41153023
He thinks he's being clever with diarrhea of the mouth.

Nope

>>41152838
or are middle aged women

>>41152869
your opinion is useless so thanks

>>41150436
Don't say this people might actually do it

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Just had a little blood for the first time, 6th needle into cycle.

Stopped when i put pressure on it, and it was just EQ. Hopefully most if not all of it stayed in tho.

>>41152922
that's synthol you fucking mong

>>41153632
Yeah you don't compete at all clearly. Only poorfags still do synthol.

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>>41153541

blood when you aspirated, or blood when you took the needle out?

i've only aspirated 2/3 of my shots so far and no blood - i'm not looking forward to the inevitable day i see blood flood the syringe though.

>>41148112
3 weeks

>>41153652
What does it mean when bloods drawn?

>>41153652
blood when the needle came out

aspirating is uselsss desu

>>41153736
You have 2hrs to live

>>41153736
You're inside a vein and should stab another spot

do I need HCG if I'm doing a test only cycle?

>>41153933
Don't need but personally I like it for that better recovery after the cycle

guys recently my joints have been starting to hurt, mainly my in knees. what should i do

>>41151312
The same thing that happens to everything

Reddit

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>>41153752

I've heard that as well. The only reason I've done it the last two times is that I didn't the first time, and combined with the borderline panic attack from the 1st ever injection meant I half expected to die for the next six hours.

now, not such a big deal.

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>>41154071
Your estro could be too low / crashed. What AI are you taking and how frequently?

>>41152805
kek

so whatd hapoen if i run 3g of test a week for the rest of my life as i know it

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Need your help guys. Got blood works back at the end of the 4th week of my first cycle of 250mg test-e e3d and 40mg dbol ed. My e2 is 101pg/ml with the range for men of 11-44. I was taking 10mg asin ed. How much should I increase the dose of asin to lower my e2?

>>41154315
why?

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What roids do I need to take to look like this?

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>>41154558
This is my current body

>>41154567
bro your side rffects coming in too strong need to lose more body fat so up your clenbuterol

>>41153736
means youve hit a blood vessel and youre gonna get hormones if your lungs and one nasty fucking cough

tren ace for about 4 and a half weeks 50 mg eod to finish my cycle, will the gains be worth the possible side effects or should i not even bother with this little dosage?

>>41154592
Wut?

>>41154592
I never took roids yet

>>41148210
dude, why are you doing it?
you already look bruddy J A C K E D af

If you were to shut down your hpta with dianabol then go get your levels tested would they put you on TRT or would they know what you'd done?
I'm in the uk and if i can get a free guaranteed supply of clean test then occasionally top up with mast i'd like to do that

>>41154882
you will be bloated af, the doctor will see what you've done but he might not care

>>41154671
>he fell for the tren sides meme

how the fuck do you pin quads. I'm not even all that lean but I can see my upper outer thigh is covered in veins

>>41155488
Don't be a pussy

Also, pin glutes

>>41155488
As a former heroin addict I can tell you that it's real hard to hit a vein even when trying. You can just stab away and push the plunger.

>>41155540
I do pin glutes, that and delts is all I've been doing and I want to run tren next cycle.

>>41155113
Does tren have bad sides?

>>41147220

About to start my first 16 week cycle.
500mg of test. i have some EQ as well and thought about using it together.

To risky for the first round? Want to make the most out of it.

>>41156728
I am doing eq and test.

not risky.

>>41155995
A basic beginner dose of 50mg eod or so will be mild, high doses will vary massively from person to person

>>41155488
As another person pointed out, it's extremely unlikely that you will hit a vein, but draw the pin back slightly after you inject just to be 100% sure, if blood doesn't rush in then you're good to go

So, what is the current thing with ostarine?
I just ordered deca, eq, anadrol winny and all other shit.
Is there a point to get some ostarine for joints, or is the joint repair thing a meme?

test/deca with epi/superdrol thrown in soon.

Is SIS labs any good?

>>41147566
you're retarded, enjoy your no-gains you dyel faggot

>>41157194
better question.
Is taylor made still good?

What's the lowest amount of test I should pin if I want to retain max natty musclemass while getting lean? 90kg @ 5'11

>>41152762
I take DNP regularly, so here's some advice for you. Spend the extra to get pure crystal from a quality source, yes $2+ per cap is a lot but it's worth it, most of the allergic reactions are from contamination and not the DNP itself. I respond poorly to it as well but I found that if I keep my dose to 250mg a day and take it over a longer period of time I have almost no sides, and I take it in the morning to avoid the extreme dehydration I get if I take it before bed.

>>41157179
I took ostarine while cutting before I started pinning and the only thing that it did for me was take away the impingement in my shoulder. But why run ostarine for joint relief when you have deca?

>>41157276
None

>>41157276
TRT dose should be fine. Reason natty people lose muscle is because they cut too hard or too long and end up lowering test levels significantly.

>>41157370
Yeah I was thinking of hopping on trt until september... I want to start doing some serious HITT training.
>200mg test-e/w
>full-body routine mo/we/fr
>HITT tue/thurs/sat
>eat @ my current maintenance
My goal is to at least maintain my strength while getting pretty damn lean and improve my cardio

>>41157431
200 is more than enough, you could get away with a relatively steep cut on that m8

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hey /fraud/

in Hungry's pastebin on dnp, he suggests switching to a ketogenic diet if you develop PN

what's the technical reason behind this, and would switching to a ketogenic diet prior to using dnp reduce the likelihood of pn?

i'd also like to know what the carb cravings are like when you combine the two, if anyone has experience with that

>>41157319
as far as I know deca only masks problems with water, they could even be getting worse because you don't feel the pain.
I train pretty heavy, and my deloads are getting really important to not fuck my elbows up.

So I thought I could maybe add it just as a prophylactic measure. HGH would be good, but I am a poor student.

Oh well, I just deloaded, should be good to go for a while. But joints at 120% does sound great.

>>41157651

>meme illness
>meme diet

>>41157705
PN isn't a meme you stupid fuck, it's very real and people who use DNP are putting their life as they know it on the line every single day just to save a few weeks of cutting

>>41157651
Never heard of keto affecting PN onset, people avoid carbs and DNP because they raise your body temp dramatically for a few hours after consumption.

>>41157744
carbs on DNP*

>>41157742
b but tony big said it is safe.
m muh poison.

U just scared white boi.

>>41157705
thx bro hey has anyone told u how helpful u are before?? : ))

>>41157744
yeah I'm pretty sure our resident memek salesman was running keto+dnp, but I dont recall him complaining about cravings so I'm probably alright. thx though!

>>41157677
I thought the problem was always people gain strength faster than their joints and tendons can handle on deca so when they come off they still try to push the same amount of volume but their body cant handle it due to not having the therapeutic effects of deca and they fuck their shit up. I mean i've only ran deca up to 400mg a week and just progressed at a safe and steady pace rather than adding +20lbs a session.

>>41157798
I am at a level where gains are pretty slow even with roids.
But in some phases of training I really beat my body up, especially now that I upped my arm training volume.
Now that bench is getting heavy again, 3 plates for sets of 10 last workout, I have to watch out a bit.

It is mainly just to much work, shit gets inflamed and I have to back up a bit.
Completely normal I think. But a way around that would be nice.

Tripping balls on 140mg 6-APB

fuck serotonin rush feels amazing

>he's not on DNP

Not a real man.

>>41158277
tfw no trust worthy european research chems around
oh well, at least good mdma is easy to get.
Still want some 4 FA, and one or two APBs.
2c-b too

Enjoy your roll man. I'll drop some acid with my gf once this exam is done next tuesday. and then do some mdma at a party where neelix is playing.

>>41158309
thanks homie

my initial plan was combining 6-apb with 5-apb but I had to pay 50 euro for like 1 gram of 5-apb so fuck that. Never done 2cb and acid but they're on my checklist.

researchgroupnederland is great for legal rc's btw. Feels good to be dutch with all drugs available

>>41158309
>tfw 4fa banned in the netherlands now
fuark, this shit was good

What is the opinion on MENT/Trestolone here?

>>41158369
Good to know, thanks.
I just dropped 1k € on gear, now a few hundred on other goodies and I am good to go for the summer.
Just some festival tickets, a short cut and I am ready.

>>41158373
Fuck, I wanted to combine it with mdma. just like this one druggie trip here used to tell us.

Still legal in spain/portugal?

solomun is fire

>>41158373
for real? I thought it was still in the gray area

still got 2g's left so nothing to worried yet

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>>41152655
> t. Duel faggot

>>41158369
>>41158373
I still see 4 fa on there.
and the site is good to go?


research chems are not anabolics, and completely legal mods, pls no ban.

>>41158423
Yeah shit's gonna be expensive
>>41158405
it's interesting but a very neurotoxic combination, don't do it too often
I was tripping balls, almost to the point of feeling uncomfortable. also idk about drugs in those countries

>>41158475
yep they got good rep + cheapish

>>41157978
You seem like you are a level that is a bit more advanced than what ostarine is intended for. I would suggest looking into healing peptides

>>41158475
Yes you can probably still get 4fa but it will be last stock

>>41158489
It does sound like it would be very toxic.
I am completely sober besides doing something like this every 8-12 weeks. Otherwise it fucks with my training too much.
And I enjoy progress more than being high.
Damn I sound autistic.

>>41158499
Perfect. Then I'll use this last chance, it is meant to be.
Thanks man.
Oh and what apb is the one to get?
Could you give me a short run down on each one?

>>41158508
Might be true.
I just have to deload a bit more often. Every single time I train one week to long, and then I am completely shot instead of just a bit tired. lol
I'll look into it, if they can strengthen healthy tissue like steroids do with muscle.
But I can't really complain, I only slow my progress a bit. Never really hurt myself or anything.

>>41158644
in general 6-apb trumps 5-apb since 5-apb is only very emphathogenic though some people claim both combined is even better than mdma.
Reason why I take 6-apb is because you get euphoria for 8 hours and is supposedly less neurotoxic than mdma (no a-methyldopamine released)

I'm now adding 70mg 4-fa into the mix for some more energy. Also got popsicles and 600g worth of fruit.

Im already on 50mg of pharma Var and am planning on throwing in some sdrol for a few weeks. Should I dose it at 10mg seeing as its my first time and im already stacking it with another oral or should I say fuck it and run it at 20mg?

>>41158763
Then I might just get the 5-apb, as I will have a lot of 4 fa by then. not sure.
Dosage is about the same for both?
When I take mdma, a good dose is 160-200mg.

Everytime I do something like this I eat loads of veggies and fruit, drink some matcha tea.
Take magnesium, na r ala, green tea pills, and the one anti oxidant from red wine as it can pass the blood-brain barrier and should be able to protect it a bit from oxidative stress.

Hands full of pills before going out.

>>41158990
yeah your stack looks great, identical to mine. During the roll I take lots of anti oxidants also (baggie of 10+ pills during a festival kek). 4-fa (150mg) + 5-apb (90mg) is insane also I heard. can't wait for the summer festivals

absolutely hyped

going to florida for vacation in 9 weeks, doing a cut beforehand to look lean for the beach, is there any sort of cycle I can do in this amount of time and still be able to drink once Im there?

>>41159103
Looks like I'll have to get some 4 fa, 5 apb, 6 apb and maybe 2cb-fly.
Can't wait either. festivals in switzerland, czech republic, italy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testosterone_buciclate

When the fuck are the Chinks gonna start synthesizing this stuff so I can get my hands on it?

It has a half life of 30 days, compared to testosterone enanthate with a half life of about 5 or so.

Perfect for going on vacation, or prison. Just gotta inject a lot of oil at one time I guess

>>41159325
12cc every 3 months for trt, lol

>>41159325
that would be shit, your test levels would peak too high and then fall to almost nothing between injections, this is why prescription phrama sucks because they do injections on a monthly basis

just use test u

>>41159402
If you read the wiki page you'd know that's wrong.

The cool thing about this ester is it doesn't peak super how and drop very low.

But I agree its actually probably gay.

I think next time I buy some raw test I'll get some decanoate (not undecanoate... I like the number 10.)

Did glands man finally kill himself ?
Please say yes.

>>41159485
he hasn't posted in 2 weeks. Kinda worried t b h

Any thoughts on ultra doses?

Coach trevor from enchanced athlete took 10g of test deca and eq for 6 weeks and actually dropped 15lbs at 5000 to 6000 calories a day.

Hus body was so insanely anabolic it required so much calories it just ate up all his fat stores but he didnt gain much muscle apparently.

They also had talks of superdosing test with other lower tier pros at 4 to 5g a day and that they pretty much shrink if they dont eat absolutely insane amounts of food.

>>41159548
its fucking retarded

>>41159559

>pro bodybuilding
>not retarded

Come on.

>>41159548
it's a theory, no backing.
might be true might be a complete waste without gh.
at 1g I can get fat just fine. my appetite is insane though.

>>41159548
More roids = more of an effect.

Diminishing returns and all, yeah.

But u pin more, u grow more. Up to about 10g a week. The end.

>>41158976
>stacking orals

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I seriously hope you FAGGOTS know that MOTHERFUCKING TALLGEESE is the best mobile suit

That's right BIMBO I said TALLGEESE not shitty GAY EPYON

FRIENDSHIP WITH EPYON OVER, TALLGEESE IS MY NEW BEST FRIEND

>>41160605
Fake and gay

>>41158976
RIP ur liver

My grandmother has (probably) steroid induced dementia. Does this mean I shouldn't burn my natty card.

>>41160639
I'm assuming she was on HRT for a period of time? Estrogen plays a large sole in serotonin regulation. Overexposure to serotonin could possibly aggravate neurodegenerative conditions; take your ai.

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>>41160639
Depends how you feel about pic related

>>41155488
There is a huge surface area. You could legit rotate 8 injection sites per quad.

>>41160675
what stack do I need to run to get this mode?

>>41157978
>>41157798
>>41157677
>>41157319
Deca is a progestin so it's like getting a mild whole body corticosteroid shot, that's why it's good on joints.

>>41160691
1g Zechsbolone Marquisenthate EOD

>>41159257
Test and var. Var is good for your liver.

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>fraud slows down
>no one posting fun stuff
>all posts about olive oil or 500mg test e cycles
>suddenly a mysterious silhouette appears
>best physique fraud has ever seen
>it's none other than TALLGEESE
>fraud is saved

Thank you for saving us TALLGEESE

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>>41160768
Im sorry did you say something

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>>41160768
>>41160989

Listen lads

I've got an army of these coming and you aren't even that goose (kek) of a pilot.

Based Zaku III stay shit earth federation

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>>41160768
YEAR OF THE KAHUNA
>>41159548
i follow tony huge just bc he's so autistic and cringe. i do envy his life though

>>41160768
what's current bw? still bulkan?

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>>41160989
>>41161085
FUCK OFF TALLGEESE HATERS

>>41161158
Stuck at 230 baka
Always thought liver stress hurting appetite was a meme but since starting pharma accutane on top of my oral stack I've been struggling eating enough.

Tren kicking in though so might drop orals and just diet down idk so many decisions to make.
Just trying to get to pic related body type

>>41161086
How you doing bb

>>41160768
Hey. Hey. HEY!

I'm running 550 test e. Five FIFTY!

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>>41161283
You got the accutane from a doc or just from the web?

My doc put me on tretinoin lotion and doxycycline. Hope it works.
If not she said she'll put me on accutane. Very nice woman

Just cut down a little bit and you'll look shred

>>41161316
Different anon here but speaking of this I bit the bullet and took an accutane pill today (20mg). I plan on taking 3 a week to gauge sides since my acne is not that bad right now.

I have really shitty skin complexion but not that much acne, what do you fellas do for your skin?

>>41161348
MK-677

>>41161334
If I knew my acne would be this bad when jumping into a cruise dose I would've done the same and taken accutane to prevent new acne.

Also watch out for the sun, that nigga hurtin

>>41161283
doin good man. had a nice bday yesterday got treated like a king.
thinkin of ramping my tren e but still need to cut this bf.
how u livin

>>41161362
happy bday mayne

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>>41161399
thanks famm

>>41161300
Then you are excused

>>41161316
Got it from my derm. I have had success with doxy curing my nasty bacne after my first cycle. It's good stuff, just tires of still getting the occasional cyst so figured why not pay $12 a month for pharma and get it cured.

>>41161362
Happy belated my friend. I'm good been staying out of trouble and spending time with my pupper and GF.
Still not really sure what to do with my compounds/blast just kinda experimenting until setting a goal.

Currently
500test/900tren/300deca/900eq with 50/50adrol/dbol. Gotta choose to either cut or keep bulking and adjust accordingly.

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>>41161444
Pupper related

>>41161444
I'll see how doxy + tret will treat me. I hope it permanently gets rid of acne on my neck and jaws.
Shoulders and back I couldn't care less about anymore since I have no memory what smooth skin feels like

>Currently 500test/900tren/300deca/900eq with 50/50adrol/dbol

holy mother

>>41161444
Thanks bro
thats quite the stack how you feelin on it?
hesitant to get back into a bigger blast just bc it's been a while. just on like 350 tren 350 test just warmin up testng the waters

>>41161498
>>41161548
Only about two weeks into the EQ and tren e so still getting a feel. Will prob reduce test to 250, lower tren to 750, and drop orals soon. Possible add mast and/or var.

My lipids are completely fucked which is a bummer. Honestly the last two days have felt like shit which I'm attributing to the 40mg/day accutane which I just started Monday.

>>41147566
If that's you, learn how to lift and eat right before jumping on next time.

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>>41161609
You shouldn't be running orals and tane dude.

I'm gonna go blast bis I think.

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>>41148112
curious about this too.. I've never seen people mention going past 20 weeks. I'm sure some do, but 20 seems like the general upper limit for a test cycle. i don't even know what the issue is tho really. bad lipids for too long? increased red blood cells? what?

>>41148114
you are going to want to increase that 10 week cycle to 14, 16, or 20, so plan accordingly and have enough ai. you'll want to after you start.

>>41154202
i remember you. feels good to slowly become a man about pinning doesn't it? :D pretty soon you'll be looking forward to it. then one day you'll hit a nerve and twitch and it won't be so fun. but enjoy the ride.

>>41154398
> 10mg
nigga wat. that must be ugl or something? double it.

>>41154567
you look better natty than that goal dude

>>41161764
chick needs to get over herself
>>41161696
lookin good m8y

>>41161886
> internet sales
she is serious about the unicorns. look at her necklace.

No crash after the druggies, smooth comedown to baseline. Now taking a joint to smooth things up and sleep

8/10 experiece

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Does DMAA make anyone else horny as a goat? I can't stand it, I end up edging for hours!

>>41149420
tfw tren high enough to make me want to eat everything within sight
tfw tren not high enough to make the first thing irrelevant

>>41161981
not necessarily horny, but if i take a considerable amount and happen to have sex or fap while still feeling it i tend to lose inhibitions and do the damnedest shit to get off and sorta regret it later. not that i mind tho, just sayin.

>>41157194
apparently oils are good and orals are shit

>>41157246
this is probably a better choice desu. cheaper than sis and if they start putting out shit you will hear about it on uk muscle.

if you can get tm then you can get sphinx which seems to rate well.

Got some raw test e

would it be dumb to mix oil, test e and BA in a mason jar, toss it in a pot of boilimg water for an hour then pin the stuff?

what could go wromg desu?

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>>41150100

If I'm on TRT I can take orals without worry aside from my liver right? As long as time on = time off?

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>>41161283
Come here you pansy ass bitch, let's settle this.

Been B&Cing on Test E for almost a year now. Started Tren E at 125mg e3d 12 days ago, alongside 100mg Test E e3d, waiting for it to fully kick in so I can judge how my body reacts.

If all goes well, I'm upping the Tren to at least 175mg, if not more.

>>41162500
Just do it properly you fucking tard

It doesn't even take 10 minutes to properly mix it on a hotplate, which is what I use.

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Anyone get experiences on doing a cycle of test, then getting an acne breakout, getting rid of the acne with accutane, and then going on gear again?
I did one cycle, acne got bad, fixed it with accutane, and now trying to figure out if I'll get another outbreak if I do another cycle.

>>41161764
your heart gets bigger, for one

>>41147566

>roiding for this

laughinggirls.jpg

so where should i go to learn to muzz like zyzz lel

>>41164154
You get acne from not dosing the AI right and letting your Estrogen get too high or too low.

>>41163741
Yeah but I have have filters.

>>41164426
>>You get acne from... letting your Estrogen get too low.

>>41164558
So I fucked up on the AI and took too much of it? I'm pretty short so my dosage might've been a bit too high.

>>41164613
ai varies so much individually that your height has nothing to do with it generally speaking

some people can run a gram of test + dbol and not need ai somehow while fags like me need it on 250 test (as natty low test, i even had high estrogen, weighing less than 140 lbs)

>>41164642
Alright, thanks. I cycled on 500, might try a lower dosage such as 250 and just cruise on it and see how it goes.

>>41148112
>>41161886
How does you heart get bigger if it's just test and you keep your blood pressure in check. Wtf?

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A few newfag questions here:

What compound is best for cutting?

What is the drawback of cruising for life? On like 300mg Test or so?

Can I start cruising at 20 and be fine?

Are online sources usually unreliable for people in the US?

>>41165507
Reddit wiki

>>41165507
>A few newfag questions here:
>
>What compound is best for cutting?
t. fat fuck

>>41165529
T-thanks

>>41165559
Wrong

>>41165573
>"newfag" immediately wants to know "what compound is best for cutting"

>typical obese piece of shit that thinks roids will make him zyzz while still being a fat fuck addicted to food

>>41165611
Wrong

>>41165611
Typical projection

>>41164613
>>41164154
>>41164426
This is bullshit sure estro and proper AI management plays a big role, but test by itself can cause acne as well. Not everyone reacts the same way and its bullshit to just tell this guy his problem is DEFINITELY that he didn't manage his estro well enough. If you had a bad breakout on roids before my advice would be to titrate up slowly, start with like 50-100mg/w go up in steps of like 50 to 100mg a week and just stretch out your cycle a bit to get the results you want. Of course its hard to predict exactly but big fluctuations and not just the actual bloodlevel of hormones are a big reason for acne out breaks.

I want to start taking roids but I'm currently cutting and I won't be done before July, should I?

How do you use Accutane preventively?

>>41165778
swallow it

>>41165655
>>41165664
yeah you must be so lean being natty asking what the best shit to cut with is. that's why you're asking, retard fat fuck

>>41165819
Everyone that asks about cutting has to be a retarded fat fuck, not someone who has lifted for a while and is looking to look more cut; this is because you are a retarded fat fuck. Sorry about your condition senpai, must be miserable being you

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Some of you guys here have some much angst.
Relax guys, these threads are for people asking questions ffs.
I'm going to go hit arms, eat lunch with my mom then hang here w you faggots

How long until 600mg test-e pw will kick in?

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>>41165953
stop meanposting, we're all here to get better

>>41166008
>I'm going to go hit arms, eat lunch with my mom then hang here w you faggots
tell her i said hi

>>41166036
3-4 weeks, but you might notice it after week 2

anything sooner is placebo really

>>41166042
>we're all here to get better
I just steal qt pics and shitpost tbqfh

>>41165507
What a stupid slut. I hate her.

>>41166053
That's pertaining to "mental gains" right? Or what. Like should your muscles start repairing faster than average after the deco d one room tho? I mean it's 500ng test I your blood. Also

I thought test was safe why are these fags talk g about 16 week blasts being risky and heart enlargement. Long as you donate blood and keep bp down why would you not be healthy.

>>41166036
front load

Will I lose fat and gain muscle at the same time on gear? Not a beginner but I am recovering from massive muscle loss due to illness

>>41151874
And uglier

>>41166186
Steroids can help you put on muscle or lose fat without losing muscle. Losing fat and gaining muscle at the same time is difficult even with steroids.

>>41166527
Totally possible with steroids, look at the studies.

On a scale of 1-10 how stupid is it to smoke the odd cigarette socially when on cycle?

>>41166619
As stupid as it is off cycle

>>41166527
>what is tren

From what ive read, sdrol works best take about an hour to working out but on weekends I like to go to the gym early in the morning and on weekdays I always go at 3pm as I work 4am to 2pm. So should I continue to take my sdrol at 2pm even on the weekends or take it 8 hours earlier than I normally do.

Is front loading legit ?

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CAN I BREW TEST E IN A MASON JWR AND VOOK OT TO STERILIZE IT AND INJEFT IT SAFELT THANK YO

>>41167047
It's not necessary but it can be good.

>>41167085
can you elaborate? will i get results faster?

worried it might fuck with estrogen levels

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Stuck at 230
Keep bulking or cut
You decide

>>41167051
we officially have our new alex. RIP /fraud/

>>41167080
shoo shoo tallgeese shill >:(

is equipoise/boldenone just a meme? or is everyone hating on it because they bought it bunk?

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>>41167171
Cutting for summer is a meme. Bulk to 250ish, cut whenever next year :^)

#teamcomfywetsummerblast
#shredzcanwait
#samewidthandheight

how long after last sustanon pin to start pct?

>>41167171
just cut, you'll be happier for it

Is there any benefit to cutting on a blast as opposed to a trt dose? Assuming caloric deficit is the same

>>41167188
Whos alsex

>>41167439
If you have to ask you're too uninformed to even think about using steroids.

>>41167564
Hence why I'm asking questions and doing research you dumb motherfucker

So who are the main trips on fraud threads these days? It's been a while

I'm off gear now. My job has me traveling internationally enough that it's too inconvenient to try to keep at it.

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>>41167254
>is equipoise/boldenone just a meme?
it'll turn you into a hairy narcissist who smothers his (voluntary) misery with dakis, onaholes and cirrhotic amounts of alcohol

otherwise it's a pretty good drug if you're comfortable bleeding yourself into a dirty sink every few months and routinely complaining about fucking roasties on r9k

>>41167439
not really no

>>41167537
annoying dyel that used to post here to rustle everyone, usually brick

What should I limit my sodium intake to while on a basic test cycle to keep bloat down, 2500mg?

200 mg for 15 days vs 250 mg for 12 days

>>41167735
DNP

>>41166983
What's your goal? Stable blood levels or having it at it's peak when you're working out?

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>roiding for >>41167171

>>41167728
It's not sodium that's causing the bloat, it's the conversion of that testosterone to estrogen. Cut the estrogen, cut the bloat. An aromatase inhibitor should do the trick.

>>41167735
200mg and diet+cardio rather than letting dnp do all the work you lazy cunt

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>>41167715
Lmao brutal
Accurate though

>>41167254
Its weak, but great qol gains

>>41167776
Both seem pretty important to me so I don't know which one I favor more. Maybe ill bite the bullet and just push my training back until later in the day during the weekends, its only for 4 weeks. I also thought of splitting the dose up into am and pm as its half life is only like 9 hours but ive heard people talk against that.

>>41167715
kek, not sure if jerry btfo or a complimenting ode to his greatness

no diminishing returns even with multiple grams of eq though. who needs love and functioning sanity when you can pin a pint of oil a week to quite literally look like the lobster from spongebob

>>41167843
Hey Seinfeld I met a girl and I'm in love.
Cheers tren!

I also banged my friends sister tho.
Fuck you tren!

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>>41167960
Mirin jelly
Who will shit post about tfwnogf now

Im on tren too and Im just having lots of dreams about licking armpits
Thats life I suppose

>>41168057
>Who will shit post about tfwnogf now
where is FL anyway, did he finally move?

>>41168057
Eh she lives in America so a bit early to call it gf desu. If anything it'll all fall apart and I'll have stronger feels than I have ever feeled

>>41165819
Shut up you fucking cunt you are completely useless piece of shit how dare you even say something when you don't have shit to say cunt

useless fucking cunt move to mars and die

>>41168196
Hes still rolling around

>>41168252
>long distance, foreign country gf
Thats no gf
Sorry m8

>>41168314
you should work on expanding that vocabulary brother

>>41168325
I know. Boohoohoo
She's fucking perfect though. I'm going out to see her in a couple of months. Probably.

>>41150939
thanks mate gonna do that (zink and vit d)

>>41168347
Fly her out and propose
Get that greencard

And a wife I guess

Squat is 460, but deadlift only 500. When does the bamboozle end?

>>41168447
I'll visit you and watch anime

>>41168470
Now thats a plan
Bring your friends sister too

>>41167805
I am on an ai but you can also get bloated from a poor diet and I'm trying to stay as shredded as possible.

>>41168523
You need diuretics to get super shredded. Otherwise if estrogen is in check just watch sodium and potassium and drink a lot of water.

new
>>41168667
>>41168667
>>41168667

>>41147651

idiot. running one cycle of 500mg test e isnt going to make you look like callum von moger

also there are people who look way better than this dude as a natural. it depends if u start roiding as dyel, then u will end up dyel.

6kg of lean muscle mass is regardless very good result.

>sarms
How good is ostraine and mk677 for recovery ? I work in construction (where I walk 8-10miles a day)and like to work out 5x a week maybe cardio on the weekend but it's hard for me to do because I start to burn out when I do this to often.
Will these sarms help me recover
more quickly

Has any one used them two together or jus at all? Did you see positive noticeable improvements at all ?

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Will 60mg var daily and 200mg/week test save me from cutting this hard?

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