/fraud/ Steroids general

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I got a headache

2nd day of steroids

Yesterday I took
250mg test e
300mg EQ
.5mg Adex

I am thinking it's the Adex and my estro is relatively low however my joints feel fine and no sides aside from headache

We will see if it continues tomorrow morning. This morning I was fine. Might have been from driving 3 hours today? Hopefully, and hopefully I won't get Test flu.

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>>41098906

>>41098943
Jerry it's not bait babe just give me some wisdom

Is it just me, or is Tren much more difficult to pin than Test? Takes way longer and more effort to push the gear than with Test only.

>>41098997
My tren is about the same consistency, could be where you get it from, everything I use is in mct oil, it all pins buttery smooth, not like when I fell for the sust meme and got it from another source long ago, I swear that shit was suspended in extra virgin olive oil from Kroger every single shot pipped and it was like pushing caulk out even trough a 25g, I use a 27 with my new shit and it's perfect

Why tf is domestic clomid so expensive but overseas its super cheap

Any general advice for a first timer?

>>41098949
You took adex too soon
But the headache is probably unrelated to any of that
Enjoy your crunchy joints soon

>>41099067
Domestic anything is overpriced

>>41099113
Dont get fat
Watch your ego lifting

>>41099127
>Dont get fat

Is it easy to get fat on test?

>>41099127
Should I take .25mg Adex next pin then after that resume the .5mg on pin days (E3D)

Also how many weeks in should I get bloods? Like 4 weeks in?

>>41099138
It's easy to get fat by eating too much.

>>41099138
People think they can eat everything because they're on roids and wind up gaining tons of fat.

>>41099138
As easy as it is natty
But you can workout more now so you can eat more
Its a new calculation on cals
N x t l v l

>>41099144
Thats a ton of adex but ai is subjective itll take a bit to dial in
Id do bloods at 6 or 8 weeks

Any Britbongs here? How do I get bloodwork in the UK? Will the NHS do it for me?

>>41099151
>>41099159
I see you guys have been following my progress

>>41099236
Idk I hear people running .75-1mg Adex daily on a gram of test, if I'm running 600mg test I think .5mg E3D is not too much? Of course you know more though so please give opinions.

Also should I dose it .25mg EOD instead of .5mg E3D? Would this make it better and or more stable?

>>41099340
.25 eod is a better starting point. it's much better to be underdosing than overdosing and causing your estrogen to crash

because it is asked 9 times a fucking thread...
> yes, you need an ai
> take it when you start pinning. or 3 pins in. no one fucking cares
> yes, you need an ai. quit being a poorfag.

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why does everyone talk shit about a tbol or dbol only cycle


listen up retards, tbol and dbol have low detection times. got it? so stright up nothing rong with taking 200mg of tbol or 150mg of dbol 2x a day

that all im sayuing

>>41099067
take a guess retard.

>>41099408
fi i take anavar only or tbol only??

no ai's needed, dumbase

how many calories do you guys eat on cycle? 3700 here. babbys first test cycle.

>>41099421
I'm only complaining cause I want to order a fuckton, but don't wanna risk it getting seized going through customs.

>>41099437
>? 3700 here.
r u dumb

literally double that if you intend to make gains, retarded

>>41099429
> oral only cycles
> calls me a dumbass
have a wew, lad

>>41099446

>7400cal
r u dumb

literally double that if you intend to make real gains, retarded

>>41099443
that's exactly why domestic costs more. they already got the shit through customs. that's why you pay the premium.

>>41099459
shut you're dumb ass

listen up

oral only cycles? look at this post(notme)>>41099413
onestly? arnold did oral only cycles, no problems. if you'll take a fat dose and train well uh yeah lol

arnold took dbol

by itself

nothing else

just tons of dbol

look at him today

yep
:)

>>41099480
> uses 4chan as a reference to shill oral only cycles
dude, sounds like you got it all figured out. go do your cycle of tbol and report back with pics so you can rub it in our faces how you are right and we are wrong. hurry up lass.

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>>41099536
this thread man? man of unrelated to conversation is unbiased. you? baised towards you, retard

>>41099536
Kek can you imagine the disappointment and underwhelming experience that running tbol only would be?
Literally nothing

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>>41099480
>shut you are dumb ass
>orals only

Nigga you thicker than a bowl of fucking cake batter.

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>>41099151
yeah right

1. pin more juice
2. train hardr

good luck getting fate ever agayin

>>41099570
what if ur goal was to increase the amount of workload you can handle and increase strength and you dont care about mass cause ur not a fag?huh?huh?

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>>41099531
Look at his kid for fucks sake he passed all the estrogen to HIS kid HOW?!?!?

>>41099592
If your goal is to do that for a couple weeks and then revert back to your previous strength/workload or more likely even less than where you started than it's actually a good plan

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>>41099570
are you... kahuna as in... big kahuna? well lsiten up


New sherif in town, ass retard

>>41099604
another single mother hard at work

if that was my kid i'd be pissed, that's no way to live

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>>41099531
zyzz tried an oral only cycle once. pic related

>>41098943
This Jerry Ward, ask him for supp coupons

>>41099626
no sourse talk!

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starting my dxm cycle today. wish me lucke!

>>41099619
Fuckin kek
>tfw just regular Kahuna
>tfw town only big enough for one sheriff
>tfw it's not me

>>41099621
He has two daughters and two other sons that aren't fat

>>41099626

>Yes sir I'd like one trenbolone, and one steron injection needle, I have a coupon for 10% off when I spend over sixty dollars in store.
>Don't actually hand over the coupon.

Devilish tactics.

>>41099649
that right assoul

anywasy....tinie cahona


if you're give ma a number? we can pin "test" into each other ass? you know it hehe


let fuck asses!

>>41099340
Probably ugl adex and underdosed
Youll have to play around, but start low

Does anyone else have a pre-injection ritual?

I'm still nervous about needles, so I wait until I really have to take a shit before I do it.
I'm not allowed to shit until after the injection, so I'm pressured into doing it.

And taking the shit is my reward

>>41099714
It's dosed fine.

>>41099721
Opposite here. I have a phobia of having allergies or some other kind of severe acute reaction, so I have a full blown panic attack for days before I take a new kind of oral or ancillary.

>>41099691
You can actually buy steroids from farm feed shops for cattle then convert them for human use.

Test prop and trenbolone. They won't sell you the tren though.

>>41099810
Then take less you aromatizing fuck
Honestly ai dosing is very subjective but uh, thats high

>>41099721

Wake up at 4, take a piss, put on bumping tunes, put vitamin b12 in me, put preworkout in me, watch sun rise through glass front, clean my shit up and do dishes, get into gym attire, check emails, check servers, do a lift, piss, do a lift, piss, repeat until done.

On mondays I'm pumped for that discover weekly. Too autistic to lift weights until my space is all clean and sorted out. Walk back and forth from my desk to bench all day during breaks. Lifting just solves all mental problems for me, can't think because retarded? gains save me.

>>41098857
Yo guys, not necessarily 'fraud,' but where is the best place on the deepweb to buy ephedrine shipping to the US?

>>41099846
>hes trying to mak emeth
UUUUUUH
NO SOURSE STALK

DUMB RETARD

What the flying fuck is happening in this thread?

>>41099898
shut you're as and let the big kachuna handl this

>>41099898
some autist thinks typing like a retard is funny in 2017

>>41099928
if its' not funny why are you'll laughing assole

>>41099940
Shoo shoo new kahuna

>>41099988
shut you're ass myname literally means that im a higher level thatn you

>>41099721
what the fuck did i just read

Ok, Chinese or pizza .. Chinese means I have to drive with 5 beer in me 10 mins away, pizza means I have to pay 15 buck for delivery

>pls respond

>>41100056

>15 buck

it jewening

>>41100056
Baked chicken breast, it's like you don't even want to make gains.

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>>41100056
There's only one right answer

>>41100056
Thats a tough one
Id go with pizza.
And have another 2 beets while you wait

>>41100087
Whats that?

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>>41100056
>not having food on hand before you start drinking

>>41100156
$7.50 for the box on the left sold around the corner from my apartment. Chicken teriyaki, lo mein, 4 California roll pcs, ginger salad, and 3 dumplings.
Right box is $5 shrimp tempura roll.

Quality is so so.

>>41099646
Plateau my shit up
Robowalk is comedy gold tho

>>41100339
fuck man that looks delicious. Sushi in boston is stupid expensive, would prob run me 25 for the same stuff.

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Are thoughts of suicide a symptom of low/high estrogen?

[spoiler]I need help[/spoiler]

>>41100436
try not killing you self, hope that works anon

>>41100436
Yes. If you're depressed, high estro makes it worse anecdotally (me). I took my AI last night and today I feel like a different man

>still L O N E L Y tho

In a bit of a pickle /fraud/

Long story short, my pathetic excuse for a doctor forgot she gave me a fucking ultrasound on my thyroid. Went in for a checkup last week and she said "Oh did we do that? Yea you're thyroid is large, we need to get your TSH levels check I think you might have hyperthyroidism"
After I went in to get my thyroid check three fucking months ago before I started my cycle, you dumb cunt.

Anyways, I'm supposed to get bloods tomorrow for T3, T4 and the like, no Test levels thankfully.

I'm trying to determine how my Test cycle is going to effect TSH levels and such, if at all. I've done a bit of searching and I found a study that found some correlation with around 1.2g of supps a week (I do less than half that), but otherwise nothing.

Any thoughts? I thought there was something wrong with my thyroid prior to my cycle which is why I saw this dumbass in the first place, and I've seen some promising stuff on T3+Test cycles.

>>41100436
I get super depressed with low estrogen, just personally.

>>41100436
I get it with low, but I've found its mainly an issue if you already have depression.

I have depression and anxiety and my depression gets really bad with low estro whereas my anxiety and racing thoughts get worse with high estro.

>>41098857
>realize my I'm at about 16% body fat
>only on week 4 of my cycle

should I do a lean bulk or should I try to cut?

>>41100641
Tfw

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5'11
185lbs
About 18% BF
Bulking eating around 3100 calories

Im planning on running my first clen cycle which is going too be 2 weeks on 2 weeks off increasing dosage by 20 till i hit 100 then rinse and repeat, how many pounds do you think I could lose in 2 weeks if I was on clen and dropped my calories to around 1800

First timer here. So I'm a manlet and I've read that mk677 raises your growth hormone therefore boosting your growth in height. Does it really work? If so, would it be good idea to buy it only for height growth? What would happen if I'd use it without working out? I don't care about building more muscle, I only want to grow in height.
18yo, 19 in 6 months

>>41096878
thx bby. how heavy do you go on the lu raises usually? I love them but they have great potential for overdoing it, which I may, lel

>>41097100
got it, so basically treat them like I treated my biceps as a wee natty. oh dis gon be nasty.

Can too much HCG damage your testicles?

>>41101780
Too much HCG for too long of periods will cause problems through receptor downgrading.

>>41101660
I'm one month older than you, and have also been trying to grow in height.

I was 5'11 six months ago, and am now 6'1. I did 400iu of testosterone enanthate in one week, combined with HGH, and that triggered a small growth spurt boosting me up an inch.

I then looked up some shit because i was all excited, and this kid going by "Hakker" compiled a regimen to grow taller, provided your growth plates are still open.

I take a few supplements each day, do heavy squats, sprint, and pin Hexarelin on occasion. I've grown half an inch in one month from that.

Look up "Hakker deconstructed," it should be the first link.

Also, try and check if your growth plates are still open. I take .25mg (i really should take less but im a retard) arimidex a day to keep estrogen levels stupidly low. Estrogen seals your growth plates, and there have been studies which have shown kids on arimidex end up up to three inches taller than other kiddo's later in life.

knock yourself out

>>41101789
Sorry for seeming ignorant, i'm just not familiar with the scientific terms.

I had done about 1000-1500iu a week for a month. My 'nads shrank from about 2.5 inches long to slightly more than 1.5. My loads are much smaller, and I stopped doing it about three months ago.

Would this be permanent damage, or would they come back slowly?

>>41101798
Can you give me a link to that "Hakker"? All I've found was a bunch of crap about computer hacking
Also, where do you buy your stuff?

>>41101834

http://www.naturalheightgrowth.com/2014/02/22/hakkers-huss-hybrid-h4gs-stack-routine-reverse-engineered/

most of the supplements he mentions are legal and can be purchased online.
purplepandalabs

Alright fraud red pill me real quick

Say my natty test is currently at 600, i pin test and get mad gains. When i hop off test and done with pct, natty test goes back to normal, how much of those gains can i hope to keep?

I have a friend who went hard core, most likely roided when he was around 20 yo. Hes like early 30's now and he can still do 3pl8 squats for reps even when he doesn't train all that much anymore. He's not nearly as active but everytime he's in the gym he's able to lift heavier than most dudes twice his size and do all those fancy meme pullup workouts.

Is this something i can hope to achieve? Just making overly massive gains, lose some when reverting back to natty levels and just keep enough to remain stronger than everyone around me?

>>41101834
keep in mind the promises made on the website, that you may grow up to 4.5cm in a month are bullshit. I've grown 1.25 when it said I should be doing a whole inch, so take it with a grain of salt. My results speak for themselves though, and i'm glad to be growing, so can't complain.

do all your research first before you take anything spicy if you end up going through with it

>>41101866
>do all your research first before you take anything spicy if you end up going through with it
Yeah, I just started going through everything and I've already ecountered this
"Melatonin – Dosage: 3 mg – the best time to take the melatonin is around 20 minutes before going to sleep"
I'm already taking melatonin because of the sleeping problems, but shouldn't you take no more than 1mg?

>>41099622
>dat face
brb wheezing like a stoned retard for two weeks

>>41101808
Probably slowly comeback, though everyone responds differently. If you only took it for a month at 1500iu weekly that is not a huge amount where you'd expect to get lasting problems from. Why were you taking HCG in the first place? It might have more to do with not having fully recovered from the cycle you did before (if you did)

>>41101866
Also, what method are you using? Im thinking about Method 1 – MENS, because I'm a poorfag

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>>41101848
>tfw this link is exactly what my manlet self needed
>...15 FUCKING YEARS AGO
still an interesting topic. brb turning my son into an 8 foot monster.

>>41099269
medichecks

oi jerry, how to get a juicy booty if I'm on titty skiddles, prolactin got those covered but shapely ass though.

what are the best steroids money/value wise for a newbie to do/start with?

HGH is rather expensive but stuff like tren seems cheap in comparison

>>41102195
>Reddit Wiki

>>41102195
When you're injecting yourself with shit you apparently don't understand, one of your lesser worries is how much it costs, mate.

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wtf is this shit? this guy lost 30lbs over 2.5 months and looks exactly the fucking same? looks like he lost 3lbs

>>41102254
think that mother fucker has a faulty scale

>>41102254
That doesn't look the same, there's some noticeable differences there. Doubt he lost 30 pounds though. Looks more like 20.

>>41098857
gonna cycle oxandrolone for 8 weeks and test e for 10 weeks starting tomorrow, and i found nothing about how fast will my muscles will recover, for exaple, after a heavy chest workout i get sore for about 2 or 3 days, depending on how much i rest, by taking those, how faster will i recover to do chest again?

>>41102254
he looks like he lost weight but overestimating how much he lost, maybe he dropped a bunch of water

>>41102800
up the test to 20 weeks.

Being sore doesn't mean anything. When i have a lagging body part, i grind that nigger every day. You can lift whatever the fuck you want, whenever you want whether you're sore or not

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>>41102836
>whenever you want whether you're sore or not

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Have you guys used fl-modafinil before, any opinions on how it compares for regular Moda?

>>41102008
this is the main reason i probably will not have children. nothing could stop me from going full comicbook villain and CRISPRing the hell out of the little fuckers for lulz and scientific curiosity.

>>41102933
hes not wrong though. heck, refeeding sore muscles with fresh pump and bloodflow (maybe decrease the workload a bit tho) even improves recovery to an extent. the only reason not to train through doms is the higher chance of injury from dropping the weight mid-rep because of the ache. of course serious overreaching/training is a thing over time but thats not the point here i suppose.

>tfw trying to get to 8-9% bf

Sure enjoying my unhealthy relationship with food.

I gotta give props to those female models that do it, they don't even get the safety net of steroids + male genetics so if they fuck up even once it really shows, and their TDEE is so godamn low.

>>41103380
tbqh barfing everything you eat (implying you even eat) and doing disgraceful amounts of coke is not necessarily a complicated concept kek

>>41103380
After trying to do it semi-successfully myself I've developed an insane level of respect for people who can cut down to single digits and maintain it

Key part is "cut down", if you've always been very lean you're on easymode

>>41103428

I dunno man, I tried to purge myself once and it just wouldn't work.

that shits disgusting and doesnt feel good at all.

>>41101858
Any gains made past your natty limit will vanish if you return back to natty test levels. Natty test levels are not enough to hold onto that muscle.

>>41101808
Why on earth were you taking that much?

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>>41103499
yeah I myself could never, but gfs sister was a runway model for a few years, she openly admits that she is still glad (and tbqfh wonders how) she even survived, some days were just a cup of leafy greens and fistfuls of prescription uppers, and that is considered a fairly conservative approach, awful stuff.

>mfw she told me a friend of hers died from a stomach rupture caused by bulimia-binging over 2lbs of junk food in a single sitting and not taking the time to purge halfway in
jfc and I thought MY cheat days were hard

>>41103602
She's bullshitting. 2lbs isn't even close to being enough to cause a stomach rupture.

>>41103602
Before I lifted I would binge on amphetamine and the only cals I would have for days were rolled up protein bars I'd wash down with water just to help the headaches.

Wow I guess I have done PSMF before kek

>>41103692
It is if you barely ever eat anything and your stomach isn't used to having to actually expand.

>>41103725
Nope, still not even close.

>>41103692
>>41103741
maybe, yeah, or she got the amount wrong or w/e. my point still stands though, keeping the THINN lifestyle for a living is a dirty unforgiving business.

>>41103701
kek, to each his own. I once ... well, forgot :^) to eat on a speed bender too, literally wondering why I feel like shit after a week of only surviving on water and liquor. those were the days. should probably shill that approach to those fatasses in the extended fasting general, and sell them the means to do it with a feisty markup huehue

How to eat ass

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^Kill your self. Not fraud related.

>>41103900
probably typo and he asked how to eat aas, as in, a very crude way to inquire about orals and their dosages. lel

Why is all the good lean(at least 17g protein per 100 calories) meat either expensive or salty as shit?

We have 3 types

Bland shit -> chicken/turkey breast
Expensive shit -> fish/seafood
salty shit -> sausages, cured meats, etc

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I know I was dreaming about steroids but I'm not sure if they were nightmares or good dreams.

As soon as my head hits the pillow I wake up then next day. Pretty comfy
T B H F A M

>>41104066
Fish isn't really that expensive

Get some Gortons Fishermen tilapia.

I eat tuna, chicken, and tilapia on a daily basis. It's not expensive.

>>41104056
why did i laugh at this

>>41104066
If chicken and turkey is too bland, up your cooking game. If seafood is too expensive, change stores or buy from a market. I agree on the salty part though, I could munch on cured meats all damn day but even 60-70g of my favorite ones would already make up half of my daily sodium allowance ffs

>>41104199

I don't live in the fucking us/east coast or wherever you have unregulated mexican fishers who drive the species to extinction just to sell fish for affordable prices.

>>41104242
lel try again, I am european. if I can buy msc certified sustainable seafood without needing to sell my ass for the money to afford it, so can you.

Is caber necessary on 50mg tren eod?

>>41104268

what fish and what price?

if this nigga talks about those fish farmed trash from vietnam...

What are early warning signs of high estrogen?

>>41104591
Probably not. You should have a bit on hand just in case but you likely won't need it unless you're very sensitive to prolactin.

>>41104722
Depends on the person, but oily skin, puffy nips and emotional problems are common.

>>41104100
had a dream i got shipped tren enanthate instead of test enanthate, and for whatever reason ran tren as my base
was interesting

IF you didnt have pubertal gyno and you are taking an AI on cycle, gyno shouldnt be an issue yeah?

People on reddit talk about having pubertal gyno and needing to blast ralox and other SERMS on cycle. Seems like they should just stay natty

T B H

>>41105053
>has know knowledge
>throws around opinions

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>>41099621
The real question is....how come arnold doesn't even try anymore?

doesn't he miss his old days of being buff?

Is it likely that I might not need an AI for 600mg test? Is it worth the risk of waiting until symptoms arise before taking it?

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>>41105090
> has knowledge
> has gyno

>>41105107
hes 70
he has more important things to do
I bet he still gets tight pussy

>>41105135
>>41105090
Legit didnt even realise I wrote know knowledge.

>having seizure

>>41105130
Most likely you will need one. You won't wake up with gyno if you wait, though always have an AI near you if you notice any side effects

>>41105184
Yeah of course I'll have it on hand, but I'm worried about leaving it too late and ending up with gyno

Is PIP bad?

>>41099531

In all seriousness, none of the old school cycles mention test. None. Ever.

You're telling me Arnold was walking around with a completely shutdown HPTA and just running off primo/dbol?

I find that extremely unlikely. He would hardly have the motivation to get out of bed, let alone train 5hrs a day and fuck all the tail that he did.

I can only presume that test was ran at TRT doses, so they dont think its worth mentioning? None of the old school guys EVER talk about test and it has always frustrated me, because we know what the results of no test cycles are on a man.

They have to of used it.

>>41104672
dont expect me to know all of it by heart but some i remember because i went for a grocery run yesterday
>sardines (can): 200g 5.50€
>tuna (can): 3x90g 4.50ish €
>tuna (steak): 33€/kg market, somewhat less/kg in store
>assorted seafood (85g each shrimps, mini octopus i dont know the english name of, and a few other edible critters, you know what i mean): total roughly 500g for 10€
>trout: 6€/fish locally raised, 8€ for a few filets i dunno weight i never buy those kek
>halibut: 23-28€/kg market (semi-local company that also wholesales to stores)
all of it either msc certified, farmed sustainably, or even raised locally. not that cheap in comparison, but not wallet raping either if bought in bulk

funnily enough i had the same discussion not a week ago on /ck/, lots of smug anime girls included

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105,1G!!! Heaviest i have even been faggots, On this picture from last year i was maybe 101kg and fat as fuck. I am now more shredded and 4kg heavier. YOU HEAR ME

I have trouble getting trough doorways even more, the growing wont stop. Can you imagine how i would look like 102kg shredded, SHREDDEDD 102KG!!! crazy, i am getting a little tear in my eye because i am so proud

JM WOULD BE PROUD I KNOW IT

>>41105238
I pin quads and dont get PIP

guess Im just a lucky guy

Anyone else excites for the beach? Going to stare at all the butts, until I find one to put on my gfs face.

>>41105238
It's kinda shitty at first but it quickly goes away.

>>41105581
post current body

>>41105581
Looking good

I believe that JM still watches over us all

>>41105460

are you fucking insane you baby boomer trust fund piece of shit?

how is 30+ euro a kilogram of fish even remotely "cheap"

A kilogram of chicken breast is barely 5 quid, a kilogram of pork joints and gammon is 3quid a kilogram.

Most meat is generally 4-6 quid a kilogram and this motherfucker says fish is cheap at 28-35++

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>going to another gym because my gym is closed
>popped 15 mg dbol preworkout
>looking huge and full af &feeling alpha
>See tears of jellyness and fear when i walk into the room
>doo...you...usee..thiss.weighht..sirr...?
>Pentetrate their
>Man grab their womans by their hands as they see how they're mirin me
They get cucked ON SIGHT, kek

Summer mires will be crazy, i tell you

>>41105619
Soon new pictures will arrive. I need to be shredded again

>>41105626
Thanks It's an old picture from last year i think. I miss JM, this place lost his sparkle without him.

>>41105581
How long have you been bNc? Do you plan to ever come off? Why do use mast at such low dose?

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>>41105581
Looks pale but big gj

Anon, what will happen when I use 500mg Trenbolone per week for a full cycle with proper AI and not lift all?

>>41105581
How long until you have heart failure bro

>>41105727
Almost 1 year now. I want to go off, but that fucking PCT acne is terrible af. I am really scared to get it again after 2 cycles.

Now that i am almost on for one year, i see no point to live anymore when i am off

>>41105737
Looking sexy

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>>41105768
In trying but it's tough duder

Redpill me on Ostarine also known as the SARM MK-2866

Everything I read about this drug is positive
>Decent amount of lean gains and fat burn
>Little to no harmful side-effects
>Oral, so no fucking around with needles, without straining your liver like for instance Anavar does
>No aromatising
>Barely any test shutdown, except if taking high dosage or for a long time
>Gains mostly keepable after you come off (so Ive read from experience stories)

From what Im reading about it, it seems to be the best PED any casual fitness enthousiast should take.

But I know from experience when things sound too good to be true, they usually are.

>>41105706
OI BONG QUIDDITCH HER IN THE BAGGER RIGHT O GOOD BOY ATTA TOP GEAR SPOLLY WOG 'HER RIGHT O LAD

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>>41105790
> SARMS

>>41105714
Are your legs still lagging, fairycakes?

>>41105815

Legitimate constructive answer, thanks bro

>>41102254
there is a diference but I'm honestly not sure as to how much is weight loss and how much is just plain flexing

>>41103855
Hidden Valley

>>41101967
I do the second method, HUSS. Both of the substances cumulatively cost about 200 dollars.

Don't worry about melatonin, 3mg is fine, you'll just feel groggy as heck when it takes effect.

>>41105790
ostarine is used for healing and recovery.

dont use it for gains. in fact, dont use sarms at all and get the real shit

any tips to reduce post injection pain?

>>41106502
do it before your morning cardio

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>>41098857
Did my first pin 2 days ago and I was fine but today I woke up and it feels like I got kicked in the ass by a horse.

Is it normal for PIP to begin 2 days later?? Any advice to reduce or prevent it?

>>41106223
Only thing sarms are good for is crashing your test levels so you can get on trt.

>>41098857
>Read the reddit wiki.
Wheres it at, I cant find it.
Does it cover DNP?

> girlfriend got me some shit 2nd job at TJ Maxx
> security, basically I walk around, look pretty, and intimidate women not to steal
> take it to get her off my back until I find something better
> show up for orientation, they claim I'm late and then I show them the note proving I'm 15 minutes early
> one hour later, they send the orientation girl home, and we're just supposed to figure it out
> first day of work today in 3 hours
> no training, no idea what I'm supposed to do
> getting drunk

I'm being responsible and limiting myself to 6 beers but I really don't care how this goes.

>>41106754
Whip your dick out at work and proposition the manager to some buttsecks

You still fucking trannies you big mental case?

>>41106740
>Wheres it at, I cant find it.
/r/steroids
>Does it cover DNP?
IIRC mention of dnp is a banning offence over there

>>41106820
Thaaaaats reddit
Well does anyone have the pastebin and jazz from the occasional DNP generals?

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>>41106807

No, I don't recommend fucking trannies (regret it daily) and the manager already wants the D, that's how I got a do-nothing job.

>>41106840
Yeah. They're a neat idea and a fun concept, but the illness (in whatever form it is, physiological or otherwise) is so apparent in person.

It's hard enough to tolerate a bratty 20 yo princess bimbo with an actual pussy; 10x harder with these fools.

>>41106867
And I really like bimbos, so I feel that's saying something.

>>41106840
>>41106867
>>41106882
I love how weird conversations are just so normal here, it has always amused me.

>>41105714
Does dbol actually work that fast?

>>41105790

So I don't know about MK at all because I didn't fuck with it at the time, but I did buy GW and S4. I was pretty sure it was bullshit but I thought why the fuck not right.

While absolutely nothing compared to real gear, I feel as though the S4 didn't really do a great deal but the GW, jesus fucking christ. My endurance just skyrocketed almost immediately, out of all that bullshit it's the only thing I'd probably touch. I'm going to die at 30 from brain cancer anyway so fuck it.

>600 mg/week Test Enanthate: my first cycle
>on week 7
>feel like it's not even doing anything

I'm training hard and eating right and getting 8+ hours of sleep every day. Should I get bloods to see if my shit is bunk? Or is Test E by itself just really weak?

>>41106580
it won't be as bad on subsequent injections. first PIP worst PIP

Alright bros I've run into an unexpected problem. Just started my first cycle a few days ago and I quit drinking at the same time. Like an idiot I didn't think I would have withdrawal symptoms but now my hearts racing, hands shaking, visions a little funky and stomachs bothering. So I guess I'll have to actually have to taper off. Should I end my cycle now and focus on that or a few beers every couple of days not gonna kill me?

>>41105706
>inb4s cheap shit twice
>gets mad when I list fairly acceptable price for top notch stuff so fresh a good vet could still resuscitate
nigger I could technically buy canned tuna for 50cents a 70g can but I dont want to. some other areas and countries around here want 10-15€ more for the stuff I listed, THAT is expensive. also tuna and halibut steak is satiating as fuck, a kg lasts me four to six meals on a cut.

>baby boomer trust fund
no you chav ass britbong, I just earn more than minimum wage in a non-refugee pestered country and care about what I eat to an extent. never talk to me or my fish prices again, kek

>>41107283
cold turkey it.

not fun but passes. How much were you drinking perday?

>>41107311
I drank at least a 6 pack of 6% beer a day or so for god knows how long.

>>41107374
Meh, try cold turkey it, you should be fine...might feel a bit shitty for a few days

>>41107392
>>41107374
Could go on for a few weeks but symptoms peak within 3 days. You'll be fine with drinking that amount, people die from withdrawals though

>>41107415
I was drinking more than that and taking a bunch of painkillers, came of cold turkey...may have hallucinated a little and felt a bit shit but was otherwise fine.

Withdrawals can kill, yes, so maybe have someone else around every now n then to check in I suppose.

>>41107067
Not that weird.

>>41107491
Weird enough for me, buddy

>>41107415
This is the 3rd day I think so if this is as bad as it gets I think I'll be ok...

It's the random anxiety spikes I hate the most. Is lifting good or dangerous during withdrawal?

Never taken anything before but I want to annihilate my friend in a 10k race. What should I take?

>>41107528
a shotgun

>>41107510
fasten your seatbelts and enjoy the ride then. last couple threads were fairly mild, dare i say boring

>>41107221
What do you mean you're got feeling anything? Have you not put on weight at all?

>>41107537
I'm a convicted felon so I can't own firearms

>>41107528
unironically cardarine

or a bit of cheq and then talk yourself into believing that the finish line killed your family

>>41107566
My shits still weird desu, I just shouldn't talk about it.

>>41107603
doesnt stop niggers, you saying niggers are better than you?

What are you, mexican?

>>41107603
whatcha been convicted for, if youre comfortable sharing? same here so i have a weird obsession about hearing others stories

>>41107525
Might be alright to help you clear your head. I'd stay away from taking a bunch of preworkout though. Delirium is what kills people so watch out for symptoms.

>>41107628
I attacked some guy in front of his kids, then when his wife tried to pull me off him I pushed her down a flight of stairs

>>41107612
you definitely should, big part of comfy /fraud/ feels is talking about the damnedest stuff without much (honest, non-shitposting) judging. also it is, plain and simple, hella entertaining sometimes.

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What is the bare minimum in terms of hormone use to achieve a body like this?

Also talking the use of safer compounds etc.., not just lower doses, but also as safe as possible. Can it be done without Tren for example?

Could something as little as Test Cyp 200mg weekly and 75mg NPP 2x weekly be enough?

Goals are strength, size, look good, feel good, as close to healthy as possible.

>>41107656
dayum son. with due reason, or just spazzing out?

>>41107658
>ghosted the ex, left without saying goodbye
>moved to opposite side of the country
>new job, make great commission
>enough to afford a new car after 3 weeks, probably a house by end of summer
>saw a new girl, but she got angry I surprised her with food one day so I told her to fuck off
>ex texts me weekly, misses me and shit. She got a new fuckbuddy but constantly complains about how he's not me in bed.
>once playing mind games and trying to bait me to reach out to her
>back to around 260ish semi lean

It's just okay

>>41107712
is this the same ex ur always back and forth with?

>>41107684
>NPP 2x weekly
lel

>>41107730
Oh yeah duh

>tfw antifungal meds didn't completely clear up my balanitits
>tfw it's probably staph

Anyone ever have a staph infection on their dick?

Also, what doses and durations do you guys use with NPP? Thinking about doing a short bulk with it before/during summer.

>>41107696
Small town shenanigans. He was a legend in his own lunchtime, owned a few shitty businesses and lived off the glory of his football days. I wish I was kidding, he had a fucking mullet and everything.

Anyway he got in my face so I followed him out, punched him in the back of the head as hard as I could and stamped on him. His girl was screaming and I think his son had autism so he didn't take it well, either. His wife was tougher than he was and came out of their Suburban swinging for me, so I put one on her forehead and launched her down a flight of stairs.

Unfortunately about 50 people saw this so I got fucked in court and did time. When I got out I was exiled (y'all don't come back now y hear) from that shithole and moved to a new town, which is where I'm competing in the race.

>>41107684
That guy from Mythbusters really got ripped

>>41107742

Do you need perfectly stable blood levels to get the joint relief benefits? With a 2 day half life and a 4.5 active life taking NPP on Mondays and Thursdays and you will be fine.

The idea is to get the anti-inflamatory benefits of the Nandrolone but have the dose low enough that limp dick isn't a concern from elevated prolactin.

>>41107684

200 test a week is fucking high end TRT dude. Do you see huge guys on TRT?

150mg Nandrolone in a week won't give any size or make your shoulders feel better or whatever. 400mg weekly minimum. NPP you need to inject daily to keep blood levels stable.

If you want to look like that guy and don't like Tren then you need:

1gram a week test
400mg Deca Minimum
400mg Mast
25mg Dbol daily

There is your 2gram a week stack. Thank me later.

TRT doses and anti-aging geriatric AAS doses are retarded.

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>>41105784
Looks thick man, mirin

>>41107104
Yes it does. I feel it after 20-30 min. Works after 1,5 week fully.

>>41105902
I made this leg progress picture. I think I am doing fine now

>>41107887

For real?

That guy is like 16% bodyfat, barely can even see his abs and doesn't even look much bigger than a natty.

>>41107913
>I made this leg progress picture. I think I am doing fine now
I'd agree

>>41107913
nice cavs bb

Would doing a cut while on a cruise of 250mg Test-e be a smart move if I want to be keeping muscle? Keep in mind my blast is only 400mg test-e and 600 eq, and when I diet I'll be actually dieting properly

>>41107760
pls respond

>>41108199
250 is plenty senpai

>>41108101
calves still suck, but they look a lot better. I am training them every day now, I am even convinced i can wear short, without looking like I am walking on skewers

>>41108285
Do you know anyone who has good calves? And what they do to train them?

I've been following advice of someone who posted time under tension stuff and focusing on doing high volume calf raises. My calves just don't grow.

I'm having same problem with fucking forearms as well.

>>41107760
>>41108201
how did you disease your dick?

>>41108199
kek Im doing 550mg test-e and 650 eq /week on my cut. Im a big guy so I need to keep my boulder status and just lose fat.

Started at 260lbs, lost 15lbs natty, gonna lose the remaining 30 enhanced.

>>41108324
What I've noticed is that most people go way too fast and way too heavy with their calve raises. Lower the weight and hold each raise for 2-3 seconds and do like 5 sets of 15-20

>>41099269
Lolno

>>41099269
Medichecks

but it depends what you're running IIRC Dave Crossland says tren fucks up their results but otherwise good

I bereve the reddit wiki also has a list on these

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>>41108324
Some are lucky with good calve genetics(people with low calves/low attachment of the muscle) I know a lot of people who never trained calves in their life and their calves are bigger than my arm.

I am also fucked with higher attachment, but i still made them grow. Same as my forearms. Both work the same way; start to train them at the beginning of your training. Every exercise = 5 sets till failure, not too high weight not too low

Best exercise for forearms = WRIST ROLLER. must do, best for mass(5 sets till failure/2 times a week)

Best exercise for calves = leg press with your toes, it's seriously the best of mass

>>41108461
>leg press with toes

So midfoot/heel is hanging off the platform? Ever afraid you will slip off mid rep?

>>41108536
hes retarded dont do it

>>41107712
feck, lots of big changes for a big guy. but tbqh the best decision was to gtfo, all the common /fraud/ memes aside you seem like an alright lad, you deserve better.

speaking of big boy
>260ish semi lean
not sure if I should be mirin, jelly, or nursing a n-no homo half chub. damn. gonna do all three to be sure.

>>41107790
woah. mullet hero and public town exiling sounds so cliché it must be true kek. thanks for sharing though, now I feel almost unoriginal for just overreacting (kinda, according to the judge) when someone tried to mug and/or rape my SO. tearing the head off and shitting down the neck of a guy who was half a foot taller felt satisfying as hell though, never get on the (((bad side))) of a manlet :^)

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>>41108536
LIFE IS A RISK

You can die like a million ways and you are worrying about hanging off the platform that will keep you from holding gains


>>41108562
That depends who you are comparing me with. Next to Einstein i am retarded and next to Bill gates I am poor. Next to me you're dyel and ugly beyond believe. Everything is relative

Starting my first cycle soon. 600mg test per week. I'll have arimidex on hand but I'm worried about leaving it too late and ending up with gyno, how can I really ensure that I pick up on the symptoms of high estrogen as early as possible? And how much arimidex should I take if using as needed?

>>41107887

All this is bullshit.

That's whole problem with the modern more is better mindset.

Old school BBrs thought anything over 250mg of test was toxic.

50mg NPP ever 14 days has been tested on geriatrics for joint relief and by tye 3rd shot showed dramatic improvement - and that is the lingering effect, even if the NPP was only active in their blood for short intervals.

These things have plenty of benefits in low doses and depending on purpose even can be used intermittently.

>>41108536
i do what brick does, eliptical and really focus on using your calves more than quads/glutes to push yourself up

do this until your calves cramp the fuck up, wait a few minutes and do it all over again. it's like wrist roller but for calves

if you're on gear the pump is nice and painful

>>41108637
some even thought test as a base was a dirty compound not worth the bother. cant link the source from this device but oldschool bbs were actually fairly fucking conservative with their stacks.

>>41107887
I did 200mg a week npp pinned every third day and my joints get fucking fantastic, and with 400mg a week test on top I put on good strength and size for a relatively short blast.

>>41108679
brick has the fat kid bonus for calves tho, used to high workload and resulting hypertrophy from carrying him all day for decades.

t. was fat kid too, am fat stronk guy now

Is gyno reversible with AIs if you catch it really early?

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What compounds to achive this body?

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Just dropped 700$ on a year's supply of gear and ancillaries for blasting and cruising. Here we fucking go!

>>41108331
I really have no idea. Balanitis isn't sexually transmitted. I think I was just unlucky enough to get staph on my dick somehow (everyone carries staph on their skin, I think) and it fucked me over. If it clears up after a couple days (just took my last dose of anti fungal) then it was likely fungal (yeast infection), if not then maybe staph.

It's not very bad like google images will show you, mostly looks red. Idk.

>tfw waiting for swab results
>tfw waiting to be off meds so I can use DNP

>>41108782
>reversible
nay
>keeping it from getting worse while you frantically buy a ton of ralox for actual treatment
yay

>>41108821
1g test ed
60mg sdrol ed

>>41108821
2 scoops soy protein e3d

>>41108864
>60mg ed? I have never heard of anyone running more than 40mg.

Well Im already running 500mg test ew and 50mg var ed with the intent to add in 20mg sdrol ed. Maybe ill run it higher next blast.

>>41108854
ralox?

>>41108913
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raloxifene

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>>41108596

>>41107815
>what are stable blood levels
Enjoy your hormonal roller coaster. Also the deca dick is from low levels of dht, not prolactin. Keep test high enough and you'll be fine.

>>41108622
Read the reddit r/steroids wiki

>>41108584
Like I said it's jut okay. She knows how to sink hooks in.

She texts about once a week asking about stuff I left behind. After 6 texts like that I told her Thursday night she could just toss it already if she needs it gone. She asked about specific key items. I just kept it short and business like.

An hour later she's blogging about how much she misses me, rereading old pics, saving old pics, etc. Reminisced about times we'd roll; she even posted about she thought about the sex between us so much, rather than call her fuckbuddy, she masturbated to the idea of us.

Weird baity game that doesn't mean shit unless she says it to my face.

Well probably fuck soon.

In the meantime I'm making crazy $ so I'll just enjoy that I guess.

>>41109134
borderline cringy, although I have had the pleasure of getting similar stuff from two exes, by far not as severe as yours but yeah. keep on keeping on bimbs, life is too short to waste it with petty crazy chicks, get 300lbs shredded and seven figure bank account as main life goals instead, kek

>>41109203
Cringey on her end? Maybe.

It's a little validating considering our last conversation was "I don't like you, we aren't friends". I have yet to reach out to her, but it's obnoxious seeing this shit, knowing it's meant to dig in, and then not have her approach.

Seeing her game doesn't make it any less obnoxious.

I agree though, being big, lean and financially successful sounds great.

>>41109238
>Cringey on her end?
yes. desperation is sooo sexy you know, even if its kind of a compliment. get money, get swole, disregard the rest. well maybe get your dick wet once in a while but no commitment whatsoever, dats super gay.

>>41109447
>conversation with bimbo
>getting his dick wet once in a while
>super gay
Do you WANT me to shitpost this badly huh

>>41109491
kek no I meant consensual unpaid leisure boinking of females or trannies, re-read my post.

>>41109134
>probably fuck soon
Which reminds me, we never pulled off the Official /fraud/ How Long Until Next Ex Relapse Betting Game some anon proposed a long while ago, but then again 10iu GH starting buy-in might have been a tad too much if he meant pharma.

>>41109447
Idk how desperate she seems. Hasn't said shit to my face. I do like it, however, knocked her down a few pegs I'm sure.
>>41109525
Lol
>>41109610
I didn't hear about this. It's been 5 weeks though.

>>41109653
optimal would be to stop giving a damn altogether. but if you cant, getting her to tone her bullshit down to a sane (implying) level is surely a good start.

>>41109653
>I didn't hear about this
Inane shitposting in an old thread, never mind. But a fun idea tbqh.

>>41109800
I think I'll just fuck her instead, desu. Should only be a few weeks before she's admitting shit.

>>41099604
Those fucking cankles... man
>JUST

>>41109860
But bimbs, you were almost free of her clutches.

>>41109989
Idk her clutches aren't the worst thing ever; feel good sometime.

>>41110111
You can do a hell of a lot better tho.

Juts for reference, how many calories do you monkeys eat every day when on cycle?

>>41110440
That's a lie lmao
>>41110491
6-7k

>>41110491
kill yourself

>>41110559
>>6-7k
no you don't

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Do you niggas care about visible abs or not? I think it's a waste of time.

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Any of you faggots run orals alongside a TRT dose of test with any success?

>>41110593
1 gallon whole milk
2lbs beef
10 eggs
5 packets ramen
6 tbsp olive oil
1/2 cup shredded Gouda
6-9 scoops whey
1/4th cup cheerios

Seems about right

Ill trade oxy for test

>>41110559
Do you just like, eat lard all day or what?

>>41110627
Nah. Abs are overrated. Young girls like em but any girl over 24 prob doesn't gaf if you're joocy

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What do you guys find helps with the tren assholishness? I may be taking too much caber too so that may be a problem also.

>>41110639
do it, it's great.

>>41110686
and your wallet, don't forget about that.

>>41110627
I care about them but not enough to make it happen

>>41110667
Kahuna summoned

>>41110559
Bimbs you're 6'4, 230ish and shredded, I seriously doubt you can't find someone better than an ugly chubby cunt with no tits. Unless that's what turns you on, idk.

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>>41110753
>Kahuna summoned
did you tell your girl you OD'd yet?

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>>41110674
I literally just typed my diet for the day.
>>41110769
I mean...

>>41110645
>1/4th cup cheerios
Not sure why this made me kek

>>41110645
>that guy who unironically does gomad

>>41110924
Pocket o's for lifting carbs.

>>41110924
he probably eats them with the milk just to help get it down

idk why he likes all that saturated fat though

>>41107374
and you thought you were in a condition ready to start roiding.. because why?

>>41106867
Whats wrong with trannies?
Makes sense to want to be a girl to me

>>41111499
>>41111499
>>41111499
>>41111499

>>41110769
>shredded
>>41110846
>

>>41110784
NO
O

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Am I going to die if I inject this?