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How much caber should you take on 1g of tren e? I was doing .25mg ED but that feels like too much.

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> juice? Yeah, I juice.

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>>41111545
>1g of tren e

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>>41111671
It's actually 2g currently but I'm dropping it down so I don't die.

I did my first cycle of Test E. I didn't use anything else with Test E.

I'm satisfied with my gains, want to do another cycle later. What is a good oral steroid to add so I can just do a TestE+oral cycle for my 2nd?

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Will I die if I inject this?

>>41112036
dbol for alot size and some power
anadrol for some size and a lot of power
superdrol for some power and shredded tren look

>>41112330
All 3 it is

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>Pined quads on squat day.

>>41112489
all 3 for who needs a liver anyway

>>41111499
Why does he look so sad

>>41112286
Anyone? How expired is too expired?

>>41112546
stop being a lazy fucking fatass unhealthy piece of lazy motherfucker thats all u are u drive ur car to the corner store to buy milk and bacon. u slazy fat fuck stop driving ur car stop being part of the problem

i dont workout i move my fucking body cuz i got 2 arms 2 legs i dont make excuses i fucking make my life i suggest u do to u complacent social media complainer social justice warrior. your bullshit lies u tell urself when u wake up everyday ur self esteem IS so low ur why we dropping bombs on innocent kids and women in Iraq to get u more fucking oil for your SUV you fucking phaggot you shitcunt loser. get off ur fat fucking lazy ass.

>>41112286
its probably fine. what is it though?

>>41112921
woah this a new pasta?

>>41112286
im goingg to say you should inject 2x as much bc it proabably degraded

>>41112036
LGD - you can run it for the entire cycle (non liver toxic) it 'amplifies' some steroids (including test) by lowering SHBG, you probably will need an ai when stacking it with test, free test + estrogen will be higher at the same test dose when taking it.


>>41112330
I like this simplification

>>41112489
kek dont die

>>>41111415
why would you want to be a stupid roastie jerry
it makes no sense

arent you happy being an alpha male??

>>41112008
thats a big nose

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my diet is really solid, I have been training for 1 1/2 years consistently and I've read the whole reddit steroids sticky. should i jump on with low dosage at age 18?

>>41113089
There are literally only benefits to being a woman
Why wouldn't you want it all?

Why do people take SARMs when there isn't sufficient research yet? Suicidal?

>>41113097
How low is low? TRT low isnt going to help most likely.

Most people give some shit about something going wrong at that age, but I dont think test is going to do any damage.

But your growth plates could still be open with potential for some more height and the increased hormone levels could close them.

In which case I might just take some generic HGH or even some memek677 for a modest boost (without any roids).

>>41113169
How would an 18 yo afford hgh

>>41113168
LGD is proven safe (VK5211 studies) even in extreme doses (75 mg per -kg- of body weight in monkeys), its being used in humans now.

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>>41113095
for jews

>>41113176
Some 18 yos have jobs or part time jobs, or disposeable income, well off parents etc.

Some of the generics are pretty good apparently and that reduces the cost a lot.

>>41113178
Is PCT needed after LGD or no? And what's its' effectiveness as compared to actual Test?

>>41113182
hehe

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>>41113095
Shit you're right, I though her eyes were nice desu.

>>41112927
Test (sust)

>>41113197
YMMV, but for most cases because it only suppresses (albeit heavy suppression) not fully shuts down test production and it clears quickly from the blood stream, no - LH and FSH generally arent impacted - combined with quick clearing time make recovery a lot quicker than estered steroids.

But, LGD is great when added to test as said above, which of course you should pct if youre coming off the test.

>>41113178
LGD is safe because like all SARMs it doesn't do anything lmao

>>41113275
>strength up
>weight up
>total test down on its own
>free test way up when taken with exogenous test
>does nothing

Pls go and stay go

>>41113295
This is what SARMdrones actually believe

>>41113169
maybe like 250 mg e3d or 250 mg ew test e. and I have been looking into hgh but I was going to get a bone scan done at my doctor to see if growth plates have fused yet. Mainly worried about paying so much for bunk hgh.

>>41113312
>SARMdrone

Nice try, its not belief, its personal experiece.

I even got slammed with estro sides hard when stacking it with test after a few weeks when I didnt use an ai (dont need an ai normally at that test dose) because of the shbg suppression.

Shoo gains goblin, shoo shoo

>>41113295
I know pretty much nothing about SARMS but is there any reason to take them when steroids exist?

>>41113264
Nice. And what about it's effectiveness? I've heard comparisons of Ostarine being about as good as Anavar, if not slightly better, but nothing about LGD.

>>41113316
Im not into hgh, but grey tops seem to have a good rep here? If your plates are closed it should be fine. 250mg is higher than natty so should be an improvement.

Id also stick to one compound for your first go, so you know how you respond to that particular compound and can attribute particular effects and any sides it, if you throw in a bunch of other stuff you wont know which is doing what etc.

>>41113322
SARMs are inferior to anabolic steroids the only reason to take them is on account of being a massive pussy boi

>>41113333
For me there are two reasons - 1 is SHBG suppression. SHBG is sex hormone binding globulin. suppressing this while taking steroids effectively 'amplifies' that steroid (its like taking a higher dose) - note some steroids already dont bind to SHBG - trest comes to mind iirc.

2 - Not liver toxic, so you can stay on the sarm the entire time - unless you want to cruise, at which point stop the sarm or lower your test dose.

You can run your oral steroid of choice for the 4 weeks or so along side your injectable steroids with LGD in the mix the whole time.

That lets you keep effectiveness of some steroids high and dont need to inject as large volumes which can be helpful.

People say some oral steroids do that as well, but you cant (or shouldnt) run them for 16 weeks etc.

>>41113332
I havent tried Anavar, personally Ostarine for me is very mild, its a weaker anabolic than LGD, I have also taken it high dose with test, and noticed my nagging tendon issues healed up in less than 2 weeks on it - which LGD never did for me (though I didnt high dose LGD).

I used to dismiss ostarine for being much weaker, but after that was pretty impressed - the issues never returned either.

>>41113389
Why not take LGD on a cruise if it's not liver toxic

>>41113400
If youre taking it with test, it increases your free test (and estro) it effectively turns a cruise test dose into more of a blast dose. Either you need to drop the sarm to return to a cruise dose or lower your test dose much lower than you normally would on a cruise if youre staying on LGD as well.

>>41113097
Are you financially independent?

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Should I do dnp if I'm skinny fat before starting my first cycle

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>>41113178
>75 mg per -kg- of body weight
finally i can use 8g of something without dying instantly, a lifelong dream come true :’)

>>41113444
no but I have enough of a income to purchase test and even hgh for a few cycles

>>41113095
for (you)

What's a good Var cycle, I've got 50 tabs of 50mg I'm reading places that say 50mg a day is enough but others say 100mg? Help bros

>>41115559
>50mg tabs
Probably fake

>>41115716
Thanks for the help friend

>>41115331
Stunted growth is a definite and then there's all the talk about perma fucked hormones because you're still growing and blah blah blah. Don't pin till you're 21. Learn how to train natty first. My impression is that you're in your first year of training or not even training yet and you want a boost. It's not worth being 5'6 for the rest of your life because you couldn't wait till your growth plates closed on their own.

>>41115874
No problem and if you were to take 100mg you would only have enough for a 25 day cycle and considering you got fake shit, you won't see any effects

>>41115331
>>41115939
And regardless what people say, you can still make great gains without steroids. Give it some time to learn how to train and eat (trust me you won't know everything about lifting/diet in your first year or even your fourth) then hop on.

Don't be like the infamous manletgains or many other trips who hopped on so they could half ass it in the gym and on their diet. They all give up eventually and are much worse off from when they started because of extreme acne, baldness, and hormone imbalances.

>>41115874
If you take 100mg and can chew bubblegum without a extreme jaw pump then your shit is fake. If you get a little pump then maybe it's just underdosed or winny or some shit.

>>41115976
Fair enough, I'm hoping it's not because the guy I got it from is a good mate and he's been using this and winny for years and has probably the best physique I personally know. But we'll just have to wait and see, took my first dose today gonna do legs later and see how I feel.

>>41115976
>extreme jaw pump
>var
lol wtf

sup homos

Got my raws in the mail today. Took around 80mg proviron just now to try it out. Also got 100g worth of dnp to cap

Should I store everything in the fridge?

>>41116160
Store it in the fridge if possible.

How do I justify buying ephedrine when I can buy speed paste for $1 a gram and DNP for a quarter of that?

>>41116160
>self capping dnp
lmao you've made a huge mistake

keep us updated, I want to laugh

soon to be ex-natty here
tips on clen dosage for hard fat loss?
how much/when etc
is it better than ECA? because ephedrine is not an option any more so i gotta switch to that.

in dire need of a mild otc diuretic, have dandelion root (ready for tea) laying around but i always thought it more to be a liver and digestion aid than a straight diuretic, was i memed/misinformed and can still use it to piss out half my bodyweight in prep for an event?

>>41114421
It didnt seem to have an improved effect above 15mg/kg (about 5mg/kg HED according to standard formula) in male monkeys, but of course the monkeys werent lifting and eating big.

A few people have dosed it much higher than normal (nowhere near the test doses above though) saying it has nice effects and muscle fullness among things, but at a certain dose some kind of sides occur.

>>41116615
hm ok, makes sense, i failed to factor in HED maths. still a pleasing concept, for some reason i love yolomegadosing stuff besides my usual compounds i cannot do that with, sadly. well i could, but not for long anyway.

For cutting, people normally use a cruise dose of test. What do you guys like to add onto that?

I know a lot of you use DNP. Clen seems to not be popular anymore (I think it was sides?). Some people also use thyroid hormones, right? What about other common compounds like mast and tren?

How does it feel to be cheating at gains, Scooby will never love you ;)

>>41116707
I use dnp if I'm in a hurry and it's not a hundred degrees outside

otherwise psmf with ec stack on cruise dose of test is good enough

clen is a mistake

>>41115939
I getcha, was mostly curious of the effects it had on the body. "friend" is 6'4" so height isnt a problem, been training for about a year =)

Thank's for the help, steroids can wait a bit ;)

>>41116810
>clen is a mistake

why?

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From all I hear about accutane I figure I'll only start it when I develop worse acne on cycle.

550 test e
650 EQ

I am worried about side effects and the possibility that they could last forever i.e. Dry skin or shit like crohns I've heard being related.

On 20mg/day or even 20mg/a few times during the week, what are your experiences? Any sides besides chapped lips?

>>41116994
Doesnt accutane permanently lower natty test or igf or some crap like that

>>41116160
>80mg proviron

Enjoy your faps m8

>>41116515
bump. i have tons of the stuff and really dont want to resort to flushing like back when i boxed, that shit destroys any good feels i may get from looking dry and lean in the first place kek

>>41117059
test no, igf yes

it's why you don't use hgh with accutane

How long does it take test-e to work?

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1. What to do with the Arimidex dust? Basically I take a knife and cut my dose out of a 1mg pill and put the dust back in my bottle. Do you guys just throw it out? I probably have enough pills to do this with every dose.

2. You guys just store your gear in a dark place 20-25 degrees celcius right.

3. Also, I love pinning. Something so satisfying about it.

>>41111499
I didnt know he is gay

>>41117476
I'm only my second pin but I felt the test-e almost immediately. First pin day was leg day, and was not sore whatsoever the next day.

>>41117476
Read the reddit wiki, answers in there
>>41117494
placebo

>>41117505
Was not placebo

Look at steroid calc

>>41117480
>What to do with the Arimidex dust?
Snort it, or else you are missing part of your dose

Starting 600mg test-e per week soon. Should I take arimidex 0.25mg eod OR just keep it on hand and take only when symptoms arise?

>>41117516
You have better bioavailability shooting it. Go to a pharmacy and pick up a box of BD short tip 30 guage maybe as low as 27. Shoot it right into your neck

>>41117516
Okay the first part is a joke okay but the second part, I'm not missing a dose if my dose is only half or a quarter of a pill.

>>41117549
I am taking .5mg E3D. I am on 550mg test and 650mg EQ

>>41111545
0.25 a week

>>41117565
If your dose is .5mg and you cut a 1mg pill in half and there is enough dust that you collect and keep it, you are missing some of your dose. I'd rail it, desu.

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cant wait to be shredded again, if i am bulking i want to shredd, if i wanna shredd i wanna bulk HAHAH HES TALKING TO ME AGAIN, yes i see.. whatever you say.. What is that? I am fat and skinny

>>41117712
yo masT can you give me a hand? >>41117549

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Any of you guys got eczema? I have a special kind called Dermatographia where friction/scratches causes hives.

I take about 2 180mg allegra pills/90lbs of body weight.

Since it gets worse with dryness I am avoiding accutane although I have it on hand with my cycle. >>41117565 which is 550mg test and 650mg EQ. So far no worse acne so hopefully I'll be able to completely avoid the accutane.

Although I have months supply of it that costed me quite a bit but hopefully I don't need it. I don't mind the money loss. Here's to hoping ;)


>>41117635
Usually one side gets more pulverized than the other and I just take the side that was left intact

hey buds, im gonna get on a cutting stack using test-p(200 mg eod) mast(100mg eod) and winnie(pills 30 mg everyday)
my guy sent me a tren for free, ive never done tren, is it worth it to use together with these shit or do i save it for a future cycle? its ace 100 mg/ml

fucking terrified of trensomnia lads how real is it?

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What the FUCK is the difference between meth tren and tren enanthate?

I've been on tren-e since forever and might want to change.

They say 1mg of meth tren is equal to 100mg of tren ace, is that shit true?

Is the anabolic/fat burning and progesterone effect of meth tren the same as enanthate/acetate?

Does it use the same pills as the ones brewers use (ie it has built in estrogen)?

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>>41114349
No, you shouldn't do any AAS if you're skinnyfat, idiot. Work out first.

>>41118118
>aas
>dnp
retard

>>41118062
Very real. Unless you can function on 5 hours of sleep don't fuck with it

>>41111499
Did my first pin sat. Woke up today with a golf ball sized lump in my ass. Skin around it is red and pretty warm, sore but not debilitating.

Normal or worry?

>>41118322
pics
n-no homo

>>41118229
What is it that actually prevents you from sleeping on tren? What does it feel like?

>>41118322
red and warm doesnt sound good, post pics

also how retarded are you to get an infection the very first time you pin?

im prolly being b8ed here but whatever

>>41118337
late for work. It's not super red desu, but def a noticeable patch around the lump.

>>41118396
what does it feel like when you lie down/sit on it?

any1 here got a jaw rutine and stack?

I take tren, meth (makes u clench jaw) and chew nicotine gum like candy. Occasonaly put golf balls and other hardballs in my molaes and bite down for isometric work.

been working very well

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>>41118322
say goodbye to your gains

have fun draining puss from your ass

>>41118396
i had it once, it went away with a few warm compress and some anti inflammatory skin cream
dont pin on it till its healed and go see a doctor if it gets worse

>>41118569
Just feels like a bruise when touched.

Is it possible I injected too quickly?

>>41118886
How confident are you that you actually injected into the muscle?

>>41118831
Not sure I want to pin again...

Maybe I should just be happy with my job and health and call it a day.

>>41118957
It was a 1.5 inch all the way in. Had 0 issues first 2 days

Starting my first cycle soon. 600mg test per week. I'll have arimidex on hand but I'm worried about leaving it too late and ending up with gyno, how can I really ensure that I pick up on the symptoms of high estrogen as early as possible? And how much arimidex should I take if using as needed?

>>41119060
read the wiki

Big white cocks

First cycle

Weeks 1-8: Test E 400mg / week
Weeks 2-8: Var 60mg ED
Weeks 10-14: PCT

Seems ok?

>>41117892
That's actually a pretty solid choice for a cutting cycle. Test/tren/mast/Winny will get you shredded af if your diet and routine are good.

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>>41117748
Always take armidex just in case, you don't want take the risk trust me. Don't trust any of those faggots who say just take an ai when you get the signs.

Taper up or down when needed, you will need to find your own sweet spot. Everyone reacts different

>>41119309
Bait gettin weaker over here

Is clen better than adderall or Ritalin for cutting?
Does it do something magical like spare muscle or something?

>>41119060
Start it early then..

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>>41119357
You already tried food and cardio faggot

you see this picture? No steroids, no supplements, no clen, no nothing but food, water and dedication.

You have no dedication and that's why you will never accomplish anything in life

>>41119434
and pressing your arm against your body so it looks bigger, don't forget that

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>>41119456
BEING THIS JELLY HAAHA!!

YOU SEE THIS PIC? PRE ROIDS FAGGOT, you try to accomplish this with 10000mg tren and then we talk again when you're on my natty level PUSSY

>>41119494
bait

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>>41119494
:^)

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>>41119509
it's not bait faggot. I am sick of you dyels finding ways to be constantly weak

>BUT THIS AND THAT
>LIFE IS UNFAIR

And then someone shows up who you see as a threat and then; ohh that's not natty, he's doing that or that. No faggot, some people are better deal with it

>>41119533
I hope it's not you pic related, because you ugly af

But then again; why would you even show pics from yourself. You faggots never show pictures

>>41119494
At least you've got a sense of humor

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>>41119571
Mast claims to be natty in pics related, but has been cruising for months!

How are his testicles doing?!
Will they ever recover?!
Is he doomed to a life of being dependent on gear and hiding his identity for fear he will be doxxed and have his stash raided and be forced to live a life as a no gains phaggot in jail?

Find out next time on!

Phaggot Balls & D

>>41119571
literally sat with Mr Olympia at Christmas multiple times. if you look like that on a g of tren you should quit bodybuilding. I don't argue with people on the net. You have horrible genetics if that's what a g of tren does. You should be shredded!!!!!!

>>41119613
back in the plantation you dumb nigger

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Is 200mg of DNP ED safe

>>41119648
lol big talk for a fucking anonymous poster who doesn't post pics, your so fucking pathetic your even less than a unrecognizable voice that pesters without risking taking criticism, because you can't annoy me, i can ignore you, bye anon, go back to your pathetic life, and pathetic lifts, and pathetic body.

>>41119616
he only takes test and homeopathic amounts of mast, the tren part was about claiming that people cant even reach his physique on tren. also use less !!! you sound like a tumblr hambeast

btw
>10000mg
>1g
are you by any chance american

>>41119325
Thanks m8. And should I take arimidex from the beginning of the cycle or wait until the test-e has peaked in my system?

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>>41119613
How does that even makes sense faggot. So wait ..you retarded also now? Let's see.. retarded , dyel and ugly. You have my utter respect to stil find ways to be alive. I tell you ..our brain is one magnificent organ. Its let's you think you have something to live for. Its somehow just ignore reality and makes you this delusional somehow.

I have cycled before and I am now bnc. But what does that even matter? You are not even on my natty level, so why are we even having this conversation?

>>41119616
And i have spoke with bill gates on the moon. We flew with his special rocket that was actually designed to be his dildo but who cares, we just yolo all the way

>>41119657
bye then ugly dyel

heres where you post that vid of you DLing mediocre weight with barely passable form

>>41119680
You sound like a very angry and miserable person DESU.

>>41119673
If a needle hits his ass he is on steroids. It's not my fault he writes like a teenage boy

>>41119695
he had nice pants in that vid tho

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>>41119680
>lift more than u
>more lbm that you
>more height dan u
>more penis dan u
>more smarter dan u

fuck u dan

>>41119715
but that's the funny thing. You thought that was a joke. Just like you thought it was a joke before raids started.

LOL

take care bruh

>>41119717
ok

>>41119735
If it's a joke, them it's a very bad one at that
If it's not a joke, then he seems like a sad person.

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>>41119724
>lift more than u
you wish
>more lbm that you
you're fat as fuck dude get real
>more height dan u
nah
>more penis dan u
doubt it
>more smarter dan u
lol

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>>41119695
>3x bodyweight

k

>>41119677
Yes you take it from the beginning until your pct starts, then you quit.

>>41119715
Why would i care about your opinion, when my opinion is the one we should only care about

It's like asking a fucking hobo on crack how to be successful in life. You know what i am saying??

>>41119724
Speak when you have the prove. otherwise just don't waste my time

>>41119755
which anon where you again?

im getting confuse, maybe if there were some kind of method to give yourself some kind of name so I could ignore your faggotry then I would take you 100 times more seriously, which incidentally is still 0

>>41119775
what contests have u won?

>>41119775
Hahahaha
>muh opinion
You are literally trash talking people on a crustacean expert board, that's about the level of success of a hobo on crack.

>>41119775
>have the prove

>tfw you will never have the prove

u win mast

oh wait this is the idiot who called a guy like me ugly but doesn't post his face, my stats have been posted here like a thousand times, why don't you post yours so I can laugh at how I was right?

>>41119776
You're a fucking moron.

>>41118342
Late response, but for me, sometimes it's heat and sweat, sometimes it's nightmares, and the worst times are when it seems like there's no reason to be insomniac at all.

Tren is hard shit. I find it fucks with me mentally more than anything else. No rage or psychopathy or anything, just paranoia and anxiety.

>>41119755
>>41119756
>>41119775
>they meanpost on the comfiest thread on fit
Cmon go be mean somewhere else. MasT I'm disappointed, don't get involved with these meanies.

>>41119798
MasT posts his face all the time. It's literally further up in the thread.

>>41119798
You're trying to stir the pot here big nig

>>41119680
>You have my utter respect to stil find ways to be alive. I tell you ..our brain is one magnificent organ. Its let's you think you have something to live for. Its somehow just ignore reality and makes you this delusional somehow.


roast of the day

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>>41119791
Aren't we all? Aren't we all in the same boat over here: Lonely, bitter and seeking for attention

>>41119782
I am better than you, that's all what matter in life. That's my contest; to be better than you

i already won before i even thought i would even start the contest before starting to think about the contest

>>41119798
Ok here's my face faggot. i have nothing to hide. TELL ME WHAT TO POST AND I WILL POST IT

except my dick, because it's so small it this faggot forum was not able to upload it. TOO LOW ON KB and resolution

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TFW you have the best natty body the planet has ever seen hands down but then you cruise on steroids for years to end up with something that isn't even noteworthy at an amateur bodybuilding level.

>>41119856
your b8's are nearly as good as masT's

solid 6/10

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>>41119855
cute kissy face, mirin squint form, good thing you don't take these pics often or your forehead will get all wrinkly from trying to accentuate your brow

>>41119856
As a bodybuilder who moved to other life pursuits that comment will have him at night thinking "I'ma do a few more ccs so they don't talk about me no more"

>>41119855
Oh I see you got a new phone or that isn't you?
>chad.jpg
>no timestamp
>muh lurd
>How vain is this guy?

>>41119895
I would kys myself if I was black

>>41119657
>you can't annoy me

Proceeds to write a tl;dr wall of text. All while being mad as fuck.

>>41119932
nah u'd probably take drugs and steal bikes n claim welfare

>>41119958
good goy
I can't wait till they put you guys on that new TV show the inspectors. Basically they work at the post office and bust roid pimps. It's on CBS so enjoy the illicit income while it lasts.

>>41114349
this would kill you

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>>41119985
see

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>cant read thread all day because of stress with work
>finally open /fraud/
>over 9000 bait posts of bignog vs. dutchblue shitposting
YAS MOAR

What does trensomnia feel like? Like what is it that actually prevents you sleeping?

>>41119985
>>41120034
stay thirdworld murica

>>41120045
>dutchblue
that joke took WAY too long to sink in before i kekd, was distracted by his arab face. bravo anon

>>41112286
Double dose due to degredation

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Kinda gettin bored here lil guy so I did some searching on the archive since you bluffed giving me real stats... lol, topped out at 220lbs, that means you were one of the guys who couldn't even hit 200lbs natty...

remember you are unable to quit steroids even if you wanted because the humiliation you will suffer from having the people you see every day watch you deflate like a retarded balloon and the crippling depression you will have from a completely fucked endocrine system and scorched earth nut sack that won't be able to produce levels of test even half of a normal mans for at least a decade will surely lead to suicide

you, like all your pictures are just illusions, of course you're on an internet forum, you are retarded(like me) unlike me it takes pictures that make you look huge

Have fun spending money on something you do to impress others, mostly online because let's be honest everyone irl who sees you knows you got a napoleon complex and can't live without drugs

sorry I have to embarrass you on the only real place where you can get any respect from other autists like us. I hope you find what you are looking for and don't realize to late that you fucked up your natural life to be an imitation bodybuilder.

>>41119855
are you single?

asking for a friend

>>41120172
Nerd

>>41120172
ur either really bored or really lonely

BN triggered as HELL

>>41120172
holy shit dude, get a life

>>41120211
oh look another human male who couldn't reach 200lbs lean without steroids

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>>41120172
this nog always has me on the verge between thinking hes either a dedicated troll, or the B stands for BitterNigger and hes genuinely mad. in any case keep going, this is entertaining.

>>41120172
Lmao. How jelly can one single nog be?

>>41119855
Fuck me daddy

>>41120253
>harassing a manlet for not having a breeding heifer ffmi while natty

Did taking steroids, or any other performance enhancing drug change your outlook on life? More specifically, did it affect your self worth?

I feel much happier with myself in terms of body image but now, instead of looking in a mirror and seeing a goalpost getting closer, I now see myself moving it further and further away as I find new, even more finicky things I need to "fix".

Does it ever become enough? or is making it actually just a cyclic journey as opposed to a linear path?

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>>41119907
>no timestamp
He's so jelly and full of total envyness without even knowing it. Have we even see something on this scale yet?

>>41120172
HAHAHHAHAAH and.. we got a new copy pasta

this can't be real right. Is he for real tho? He did also this hard work, for what?? Just face it man, you can't win this. Not with your little twinky words, not with your ugly face, no nothing. Pray that something like reincarnation really exist and then when you pray to allah maybe then he will make you into something worth living for.

I dare you to be with me for one day, to see how many tears of fear jellyness and fear you will encounter. No fairy tale were you live in, but the real world of the alpha male

>>41120186
I am into twinks only

>>41120401
You sound like you have body dysmorphia. Same as anorexic people always thinking they're fat no matter what.

Can superdrol be done 24/7 till you retire?

>mm-muh liver meme

munzer ate a gram of orals a day, took a decade for him to die.

Is balls not shrinking an indication that you have bunk gear?

I'm doing 600 mg/week of a testosterone esther and I don't think my balls shrunk at all.

>>41120441
You bought olive oil

>>41120435
>im-fucking-plying body dysmorphia is not bestest preworkout

>>41120436
Yeah sure go for it

remember that when you turn yellow it just means you're going super saiyan

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>>41120415
>no timestamp
Seriously how dumb are you? It's the only ounce of legitimacy on this Bulgarian crochet board.
>pic related
>It's me with my qt. GF

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>>41120415
wait so you're a booty bandit making fun of anyone. I said what what in the butt...I said what what in the butt...

>>41120415
how do people react to you irl?

>>41120498
>>41120520
these newfriends pooping up my general smH

>>41120441
what lab is it from

>>41120435

Diagnosed but the CBT they make you do doesn't seem to change anything and the medication they put me on makes me drowsy all day and I overeat.

>>41120465

I owe all my gains to trying to kill myself in the gym and injecting myself with what I imagine is pancu bromide.

>>41120352
5'11" master race, emporer of manlets, courtesan of lanklets, the balance, ying and yang, the avatar,

you fucking cuck.

>>41120253
>what is height

I got gyno during puberty and am now gonna start a 500mg test E cycle. I know you gotta have AI post cycle but how about during cycle

>>41120498
Find that picture on the internet elsewhere than here, i dare you

Would you also want a timestamp if i posted a shitty picture, come on breh we all know you jelly af. I have also been there, oh no wait i wasn't

>>41120527
Terrified

I always play this game with you dyels irl;

>see a dyel on the street looking and mirin
>see him looking in the corner of my eye, but acting like i don't see it
>when he almost passing me i just look him straight in the eyes, EYE LOCK,
>he's in total panic don't know were to look, ohh nooo he caught me mirin how could he possibly knoww, what kind of sorcery is this

can't wait for summer, it's my favorite game

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Have now decided my next cycle and I am very excited to get going

I will do Tren Enan, Test Enan and Insulin

Tren will first be run at 200mg EW to get a feel of how my body reacts, I will then raise it up to 400 and keep it there if the side effects aren't too harsh

Test will be run at 250mg EW

Insulin, like tren is a first timer for me, I will start running it 4 weeks into the cycle, for 4 weeks, the first week will be the testing ground for the dosage, i will start at 3iu's post workout, and then raise it with 1iu everyday up to 10iu's, won't go higher than that

Thoughts and constructive criticism is welcome

>>41120541
"isoSource" from verified. However, he is removed now for stupid business practices.

What he did was unrelated to bunk gear, but now I'm wondering if incompetent business practices in other areas indicates incompetence in making gear. I'm also on week 8 of my cycle and not seeing results. Should I ditch this shit and get some new gear? Start over brand new?

>>41120401
This picture you have in your head will always change, you will never be happy with yourself and you will never achieve what you want to achieve.

Before you realize all this was one big mistake you are ready to die.

>>41120617
>First time with tren
>trt dose test
>no gh
>better start taking slin

Lmao, like... lmao. Shiggy

>>41120614
Oh yeah jelly on a roid using homosexual that obviously gets pleasure from belittling people asking questions.
>like the first post you replied too

>>41120478

>not wanting your own tan as a side effect

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>>41120747
I have run test up to 2g a week before and was fine
But since people seem to be split into half about whether to run tren or test higher than the other, i wanna be a bit unorthodox and run the tren higher than the test, if it doesnt work out i can allways lower the tren and up the test
Reason behind this is because alot of people seem to agree about the sides getting worse the higher you run the test.

Elaborate on why insulin without gh is a bad idea please (Not because I think I am right and everyone is wrong but because i might learn something new)

>>41120571
this whole post is meta as fuck

What would happen if I took test and just worked my 8 to 5 construction job without going to the gym for 5-6 months until I collect money for a car (becaise gym is far away)?

Would it have any effect at all?

>>41120843
You'll get massive gains and lose a lot of weight.
You'll also have to start eating a bit more. Cause you're going to need it.

>>41120552
my point exactly. i scare kids and small dogs into running away on sight but i still dont believe it and need MOAR. its not a good life, but its a life.

>>41120614
fuuuuuark true sick kunt

can i call you zyzz?

>>41118595
kill yourself faggot

you're the gayest tripfag out there

>>41120415
>the real world of the alpha male
>implying you wouldn't get your shit bashed in by someone with just 1 year of BJJ or MMA experience

>>41120640
Yeah you fucked up bro. You need to go with a reputable lab from eroids.com

>>41120843
There's a study showing people on 600mg test pw gain 18lbs of muscle in 20 weeks with no exercise or diet

>>41120917
u wot

>>41120917
untrained individuals though.

>>41120574
you're a fucking moron dude

>>41120640
your gear is fine, how long have you been on?

>>41120904
lmao

>>41120949
And?

>>41120949
It's relevant to me because not only will I be training and bulking, but I have recently lost a huge amount of muscle due to long term illness.

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>>41120866

>its not a good life, but its a life.

He who makes a beast out of himself, gets rid of the pain of being a man.

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>>41120985
>your gear is fine, how long have you been on?
This is my schedule. I inject 300mg roughly every 3.5 days. I'm on week 7 now, not noticing any huge effects. I never got acne, balls aren't shrinking, no gyno symptoms, body looks the exact same. I'm eating 3,500 calories every day at least and getting ~180g of protein or more. Sleeping 8 hours every day. Every time I took a small dose of aromasin it led to low E2 symptoms like very low ejaculate volume. My bench press has gone up very slightly (5 lbs) but I think that is because of the placebo of thinking I'm on steroids so I can handle more weight. All of this makes me think that I do not have a lot of free test and my gear is bunk.

Now that I think about it, i got 3 vials that were totally unlabeled. I had to take his word for it that it was TestE 300mg/ml, which doesn't make me confident because he somehow got confused and almost sent me 3xSuperdrol, a completely different order. It seems like he is totally disorganized.

I finished the first vial and started the next vial, which looks different in some way. I can't describe why, but it looks more viscous or something.

I'm trying to progressively overload on my lifts, but I'm stagnating at the same weights as what I was at before I went on cycle. I've also been doing calf exercises like crazy every single day and they haven't grown at all.

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>>41121173
>week 7 now, not noticing any huge effects. I never got acne, balls aren't shrinking, no gyno symptoms, body looks the exact same
>got 3 vials that were totally unlabeled. I had to take his word for it that it was TestE 300mg/ml

>>41121173
I just realized I mistakenly saw my aromasin entry in week 6 and thought that was the first TestE dose for that week.

so basically I did both injections for week 6 and I'm headed into week 7, not seeing results. I feel like I should be getting stronger at this point, but the strength isn't there. I don't feel or look or perform any differently than I did before my cycle, and I can't tell for certain but my balls are pretty much the same size as they were before. I was injecting HCG to keep them at a large size but I stopped doing that a while ago.

I don't know, I guess I need bloods but I can't really afford it right now.

What is the "stupid amounts of gains" cycle?

Test/tren/adrol/dbol?

>>41121173
the thing is that whatever he could have sent you would have also shut down your natty test production, giving you sides (at least shrunken balls and probably acne, + whatever compound you injected's sides) unless it's actually just olive oil in a vial... which is almost impossible considering the 0 bad bloods from your particular source.

I think you're just training or eating poorly desu.

>>41121202
so is it a boy or a girl, you know yet?

you're gonna go back on too, yea?

>>41121147
cliché but true

>>41121261
That's the "die at 30" cycle.

>>41121428
oh please

>>41121261
1-20 1g test ew
1-6 80g Dbol ed
1-20 750mg deca ew
17-20 30g Sdrol ed

Why is DNP still so controversial even among hardcore frauding roidmonkeys? They'll blast 1g of teen but 200mg of DNP "is suicidal and reckless"?

>>41121449
Also hgh could be ran but I know shit all about it so im not going to include it in this stack.

>>41121467
dnp is literal poison and will explode if ignited

and you're swallowing that.

>>41121490
alcohol is literal poison and its flammable too omg

>>41121449
>80g dbol
>30g sdrol
ye

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>>41121449
>>41121605
looks good to me

>>41121630
>>41121605
Did quick reasearch about the hgh part and it should be ran at like 500 iu's ed

>>41119855
Would face fuck/10

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Anyone else fraud because they place no value on their life?

>>41121173
if the bottles had no hormone in them and you were using an anti estrogen that would be enough to limit your gains you are seeing.

why use an anti estrogen. you shouldn't be on just test and not get hard. if you told your doctor that they'd probably start taking your bloods because that's not normal

>>41121337
You're not making any sense. You're saying on 1 hand that I would have side effects if the gear was legitimate, yet I don't have any side effects (or even effects) at all, but you still think I have good gear and it's just my fault that I'm not getting bigger?

>>41121529
It all makes sense now.

>>41120614
>>when he almost passing me i just look him straight in the eyes, EYE LOCK,
>>he's in total panic don't know were to look, ohh nooo he caught me mirin how could he possibly knoww, what kind of sorcery is this
Lol'd

>>41121665
I was scared of gyno and took a prophylactic dose. I thought that's what you were supposed to do.

>>41121467

DNP is an industrial wood dye, it's used in a number of fatal if ingested products and is quite clearly not for human consumption. Dealing with the side effects pinning subjectively large doses of anabolics is probably second nature to the demographic. Having your temperature rise so rapidly or gradually that it eventually kills you from dehydration and heat stroke while your organs cook internally even if you have dantrolene is not something paramedics can fix just like that.

Risk versus reward, DNP isn't worth the reward for the risk you take in ninety five percent of use-cases. The other 5% are either ill advised or incredibly disciplined and careful with what they're doing with it AND they have a specific reason. But, if even 'hardcore frauding roidmonkeys' are deadly serious about it, surely that gives you some indication of whether you should be taking it.

You don't need to guzzle the yellow devil to lose fat, you just need to stop eating like a fucking pig and exercise more. But then again, it's your life. If you're going to die at thirty from diabetes and lose a foot you're probably ready to kill yourself with DNP anyway.

>>41112286
It would be extremely painful

>>41121686
Usually it kicks in around 72 hours. If it didn't clear up by then a lot of times it isn't really gyno in some cases

>>41121689
>uuuu

>>41121424
It's a grill

>>41121660
Yes.

>>41121742

Ey you having a kid? That's fucking rad. Little shredder can help you rack weights.

>>41121742
>100/100/200 TestU/Deca/EQ
What kind of results do you get from this?

>>41120614
as a dutch fag i sincerely hope i randomly meet you one day.

and then you'll sign my juicy manglutes.

>>41121742
>It's a grill
I'm sorry m8. Better luck next time right?

>>41121742
i'm sorry

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>bitcoin value changes right when you're about to send
>have to send another 21 cents

>>41121820
>falling for the bitcoin meme

>>41121847
steroids are illegal in the US you stupid beaner

>>41121862
>he thinks that means you have to pay with bitcoins
LMAO

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>>41121875
>using a card tied to your name to order illegal drugs

>>41121875
good luck with those bank transfers buddy, hope the police lubes you first ;)

>>41121875
>he thinks bitcoins are bad
ok bud

>>41121884
>card
what the fuck is western union and/or moneygram

What kind of tren doses are people taking where they experience insomnia, nightmares, irritability etc

I am taking 50 ed of ace and my only side effect is i bang really good and am a bit warmer at night

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>>41121893
>his information isn't tied to his moneygram/western union
>FBI, OPEN THE FUCKING DOOR RIGHT NOW AND GET ON THE GROUND

your future

>>41121893
most sellers offer discounts if you pay with btc

i guarantee you've never purchased illegal substances online you're just trying to convince people you're smart because you're bored

>>41121918
what do I get if I prove you wrong right now

>>41121884
>>41121916
delete this smug elephant right now

>>41121916
I don't think you how how wu and mg work my dude

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>>41121974
Moneygram and western union both have paper trails that lead back to you. It's not anonymous.

>>41122012
>go to place that doesn't ask for id
>"paper trail"
please explain, you brilliant human being

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>Taking Test after a month of gym
Do these people have a death wish, or is there something I don't know?

I keep hearing it's a bad idea but never why

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>>41122025
ID is required for all moneygram transactions. Also they take down your name, address and phone number. You've never used it faggot.

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Damn Piper Perri is cute without makeup and when she's not getting a train run on her by black dudes.

>>41122066
I request all of your elephant pictures in a .Zip file please. Ignore them, BTC is the obvious choice for us non technically retarded guys.

>>41122116
she has makeup on, almost any women you see will have makeup on unless they are right out of bed. It's easy to make it seem natural even though she is caked up.

>>41122066
that's not true, though. I've never been asked below 250 dollars. it's personal policy depending where you go.

>>41122116
>this
>without makeup
mongoloid

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>>41122116
I hate the Jews for BLACKING cute white teens so fucking much. Corrupting fucking KIKES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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masT has more haters than rich piana

Stop being so jelly if u want to shit talk him get bigger than him

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>>41122157
I roid to prepare for the upcoming race war.

>>41122116
This is the last one.

>>41122184
masT pls...

>>41122196

I roid to kill time between my meaningless existence and bed.

>>41121660
yeah that's why im considering it. feel like i got nothing to lose and i want to try it before i go out

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>>41122157
Literally blame that Jewish dude that owns blacked and a bunch of other sites.

>>41122140
>>41122155
If she does it's just light foundation as you can still see her freckles, her eyebrows are black because her hair naturally is. I don't really see any eye makeup and no mascara on atleast the bottom. I don't understand why y'all find it so hard to believe some girls don't wear makeup and actually do look cute.

>>41121772
Only on week 3, not expecting anything for another couple weeks at least.

>>41122309

Self-deluded notion to alleviate the trauma of being unable to fuck anyone but ugly girls who all cake themselves in so much makeup as a crutch leading to the conditioned response that all women must do the same thing even if they don't need to.

>What does it matter if girls don't think I'm attractive, I know they're all secretly ugly underneath ALL THAT makeup.

>>41121660
Both sides of my family have a severe history of dementia and Alzheimer's. I watched my grandparents lose their minds and die, and I'm watching my parents do it now. I know I'll go insane if I make it to my 70s. I don't intend to make it that far.

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My physique goals are to be able to lift a kike up by the neck.

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>>41122359
>all secretly ugly underneath ALL THAT makeup.
Must be that thought process, shit is cancerous to hear from guys constantly.

>>41122359
>t. incel

>>41122116
Bruh she literally looks like a man. And is 100% wearing makeup in that pic.

>>41122309
you can very clearly see the foundation as her mouth isn't even the same shade as the rest of her skin, she's got concealer on also and she's got mascara on her eyelashes for 100% sure. pic is kinda shit quality but I'm p sure that's lip gloss also

aren't you the LARPer who pretends he used to be a scout for models lmao

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How da fuck you guys fall asleep at night?

I normally get about 10 hours of sleep and sometimes use melatonin or diphenhydramine. I imagine if I got 7-8 hours I would fall asleep much easier but since I have the time on my hands I like to get more, but that usually requires drugs like diphenhydramine to send me to the nether realm.

I just like getting more sleep. When I get 7 or 8 I'm more likely to eat dirty or do stupid shit. Ugh. I'm forced to actually have discipline at those times.

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>>41122427
Ha. I was just thinking about this the other day. Being on the top of a parking structure realizing I could shove a man off with one hand.

>>41122521
>How da fuck you guys fall asleep at night?
>I normally get about 10 hours of sleep

There's your problem. I used to be just like that, would take me over an hour to fall asleep and would sleep for 10 hours sometimes more. Since I started waking up early (6-7 hours sleep) I fall asleep within minutes at night. The problem is that you aren't actually tired.

>>41122521
THC helps, I take a small edible if I'm having trouble falling asleep some nights.

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Hey fellas, I'm 1 week into my 500 mg / week babby's first test e cycle. I've been waiting to start aromasin on the advice of people here, as apparently a lot of people barely need it on my dosage.

I've been feeling kinda lethargic and off the last two days - and maybe a bit bloated. I'm due for my next shot tomorrow. Is this 100% likely in my head, or could I possibly be showing high e symptoms already? I'm sure it's probably just first cycle paranoia. But hell - should I take a 12.5 mg aromasin tonight and see if it makes me feel better, or does that mean I'm on them for the rest of the cycle if I do that?

Thanks guys, I appreciate the help!

>>41122561
take it and feel it out.

if you feel better you have to start taking them regularly because your e2 was already upping itself.

>>41122561
Always take a small amount of AI if you even get the slightest feeling of high estrogen symptoms. It's never worth risking your body just to save a small amount of money.

>>41122605
>>41122605
>>41122605

>>41122561
Don't wait pussy unless you want gyno

>>41120799
Slin tends to make people fat. Especially when they don't know when and how much carbs to consume. Gh helps with that.
Not really worth it without gh. And then it would not be worth running wirh low dose gear.
Tren increases igf 1 sensetivity. Gh/slin/test produce loads of igf 1 and bam there is your pro bb stack. High test, med tren, gh/slin 5 times a day.