/fraud/ steroids general

will sterons make me gay

>>41003183
Can I use steroids to look more feminine because I'm a girl and I want to look more like one

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Bf% estimate? Posted in previous thread.

>>41003198
considering sterons will make you gay
actually taking them will force you to act on it

>>41003204
A solid 13

>>41003204
We already told you. 14.

>>41003198

I was gay before I did my fist cycle. During and after I wanted to fuck anything that couldn't get away from me. Steroids made me less of a faggot.

>>41003211
>>41003238

You must be trolling me guise. I would have guessed at least 17-19%

>>41003203
No. There are no steroids that will do that, unless you're transitioning

Does anyone have any idea if it's ok to take antibiotics while on DNP?

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watch out, expert memer coming through

Is masteron worth picking up? 1 month into my 6 month blast

250 test e
700 tren e

If so, what should i run it at?

asides from cardio, any other way to avoid enlarged heart (grinch syndrome)?

im only blasting 500mg test

How often do you niggas wait between cycles?

>>41003783
i do a 15 week cycle once a year before summer

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>>41003204
eh yeah 13-14.
carb cycle and some dht drugs will make ya pop
>>41003589
it all depends on what you normally take. if it's your first time doing a cycle, don't fuckign do dnp. but if you're on year round, maybe do a cruise does, eq while on dnp. don't do one on a blast, basically.
i just finished dnp and had results, but idk i'm starting to feel it's overrated for the overall experience. it's not awful, but it's far from amazing.
>>41003670
if you have the money, sure. i've never been blown the fuck away by mast, but it's a nice addition if you are already lean. it only helps.
500mg/wk is good

>>41003204

The fuck is with all these other estimates? Going off of DEXA scans and quantitative ways of measuring bf, you're definitely closer to 18-19%

Anyone catch that Tony Huge guy randomly signing up to a contest this weekend, missed his weight class, had to join a heavier division. Was the smallest guy in his class and placed top 2?
The guy was bragging how out of shape he was last week. This dude just rubs me as a con man

>>41003589
>>41003874

I think you misread my question m8

I wanted to know if its ok to take antibiotics on DNP

>>41004160
kek.
That I'm not sure at all.
It may have no issue, but I wouldn't do it.

>>41004110
He is 100% a con man shill, he isn't even a doctor

>>41004205
Yeah he's actually a hollywood bankruptcy lawyer...if that doesn't tell you something.
I feel bad, I have an older roid bro who buys into his gimmick hard and spends a ton of money on his stuff.
I even hate-follow the guy on instagram.
I have enjoyed some of his vids tho

>>41004226
I like his videos with Trevor. Guy has a fuckton of knowledge

>>41004226
>>41004537

He's like that Gary V guy, and Tai Lopez. Charismatic con man who shills himself and gets stupid marks to buy into his shit so he can work people out of their money. Much like most of the fitness celebrities and supplement companies

>>41004587
I actually just learned about that tai guy, yeah good comparison.
>>41004537
yeah that dude seems alright

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Anyone know what happened to futurepharma??

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Gimme date ideas you alpha brehs.

>>41004837
Usually I'll meet them somewhere public and then after 30-45 minutes I'll tell them I'm tired of chitchat and ready to fuck, and we're going to my place.

Works. Don't do this if you like the girl. Leads to bad shit.

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Hey guys, im coming rather close to the end of my first cycle (500 test E/wk) and the gains are incredible.
Was wondering if you guys had any specifc protocols you guys prefer for retaining the gains? I've read some people use IGF-1 des or lr3 or even mk677.
I understand the key is your natural test recovery, training, and diet. but I'm pretty paranoid about losing my gains.
It probably doesn't help that i plan to do a short dnp cut down for a few weeks just a week after my cycle ends for a summer trip.

>>41005617
join the B&C for life club or expect to lose some gains during your PCT.
If you wana keep em run 75-125mg/wk of test for a few months till your next blast.

>>41005617
What the fuck is wrong with that guy's abs? What the fuck? It's medically fascinating

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what's /fraud/ opinion on pharmacom labs?

>>41005747
idk man hes all kinds of fucked up

>>41005747
his whole self is fucked up beyond repair, honestly I only follow him to see his tragic end.

>>41005811
do you know the story on that guy

whats his deal

>>41005663
I anticipate losing some but was wondering any preferences for minimizing it.
I'll prob just the club after a few normie cycles. It's really tempting now but im only 22 and not sure how much this all will affect my fertility cause i still gotta have a son with my strong child bearer to carry my bloodline

>>41005815
AFAIK, he roided without doing exercise.

>>41005836
kek

anything else

>>41005815
>>41005836
no he cycled dnp without training while already being a hungry skeltal, he has a lot of mental issues and it's most likely anorexic

Where do you even get steroids?

>>41004837
I just had a first date and I cooked for her. Worked out well. Didn't fuck but kissed and grabbed her boobs. Definitely on for next time.

>>41005974
shady drug dealers

>>41005974
steroid salesmen

>>41005974
Hey cop/FBI/dea how's it going.

>>41003388
>there are no steroids that make people look more feminine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estrogen

in case any of you planned on watching the movie "the vvitch"
don't. I'm 50 minutes into the movie and nothing has happened except for incessant nagging and
bitching by the wife, and a dog died.

>>41006108
It's art house nerd

do i need ai if i dont have high estrogen symptoms?

>>41006129
the trailer made it look so good, I am disappoint.

still sitting here waiting for something scary

>>41006154
Yes, how much and what are you taking? Test only,?

>>41004205
I mean his liquid Cialis and Viagra from enhanced chems work pretty well for me

>>41006108
it's a slow paced folks tale horror movie what were you expecting honestly, black Phillip will get shit done eventually m8 also dat ass in the end makes the whole movie worthy

>>41006163
It's a really fucking slow burn. It's a really good film, if you appreciate period period and the undertone of dread.

It's also hard to relate to a female perspective like this as a man.

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URGENT PLEASE HELP

Do I need to aspirate for HCG injects?

Hooked up with a hottie last night

Told me she was on her period but I didnt give a fuck and smashed anyway. But I couldnt stay hard for some reason.

Really disappointing because she was so attractive, might have been sketched out about the blood, might have been high estro.

How do I know if its estro? Afaik I don't have any other high estro symptoms

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>>41004226
>hollywood bankruptcy lawyer

Seems like a stand-up guy

Tried coke for the first time. What's the big deal with this shit? It's just like caffeine, without the stomach iritation.

>>41006565
Coke just makes me want to do more coke. No real stimulation.

>>41006478
No not for subq anything lol

>>41006565
>>41006655
Confirmed for having done some terrible "coke"

Real cocaine makes you think everything you and everyone else has to say is really important and meaningful, but mostly what you have to say. Am I right dude? Fuck yeah I am!

Anyone here read the GH15 bible?

>>41005617
just drop the dose to 250mg/week
blasting and cruising is healthier than cycling as counter intuitive as that might seem

>>41008123
Not sure if it's healthier but at least you won't lose as much gains and become low test for a few weeks

>>41008385
It's better for your HPTA and most PCT drugs (especially clomid) are actually more dangerous than most AAS

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Whats the best stack for a first time user in anon's opinion ?

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>>41008437

>>41008437
500 mg test e per week for 15 weeks
50 mg dbol per day for first 4 weeks
ai as needed

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>>41008479

DECA 10 weeks?
Deca takes 10 weeks to work full force.
Doing deca less than 16 weeks is pure waste of money.

>>41003380
this is what id have said too

>>41003204
use this you homo
http://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy

>>41008437
propioneta
trenbolona acatato
hgh
primobolana acatato

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Has anyone tried to iv caffeine before a pr

It sounds fun

Yes this is a serious question

Got my Ostarine brahs.

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>>41008437

Test E with Deca for minimum 12 weeks (go for 16 no problemo, just pin Hcg @ week 8).

mfw shitty place didn't take my payment so I have to order caber again from somewhere else

Where's the cheapest place to get caber in the uk?

>>41008574
[email protected]

I've just found out I can't afford to spend any more money on caber or shit so I'm gonna have to sell off my Tren cause I need to pay a lot of money for repairs. Not I just gotta somehow find someone willing to buy it all.

I was looking forward to this blast too.

>>41008697
repairs on what and why cant you work overtime

>>41008712
Car repairs, cause I gotta pay to repair metallic paint and that is expensive paintwork. And I work a low paid job, so working overtime ain't gonna cut it when I need to pay ~£750 currently. I can pay it out of my savings and credit card, but I'll have nothing left, and extra debt to pay off.

>>41008720
Not to be rude but surely if you're working a low paying job then you cant be driving anything fancy. Leave it looking like shit for a bit....

>>41008736
Not my car. I scratched up someone elses. I'm fine with leaving my car a little scratched. I'm paying it out of my own pocket, cause even though I could go through the insurance, I'd be fucked for the next year or two with the premiums.

>>41004809
Yes.

>>41008744
bit of a shitty situation

>>41008521
Explain this bullshit.

>>41008764
Your mother's a whore.

>>41008760
I know. I'll probably have to try and sell it on the darkweb since reddit are jews unless you got a whole operation going on, but I've never sold before, so finding customers on such short notice is gonna be pretty much impossible.

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>>41008774

>>41008598
hi dltbb

>>41005759

Pretty good, Test is overdosed sometimes, which is annoying if you aromatase badly and you are trying to cruise. I have also had really good Tren E and Mast E from them.

Cheaper orals seem to be legit and dosed well, however their anavar (while actually containing anavar) is definitely weaker than they say it is.

Overall your pretty much going to get what it says on the label unless you buy a really high concentration mix like their Equipoise 500mg/ml or a expensive product like primo or anavar

>four birthday parties with lots of food and alcohol, two company dinners, one massive party night with the lads, all in the last two weeks
>still waking up slightly leaner every damn day

tren nutrient partitioning is a fun little thing

>>41008778
How much you getting rid of m8?

>>41009017
I had made 10 vials of 10ml 250mg Tren E each, varying between 8-12ml each probably, cause it was for me and I didn't care. Getting rid of the lot.

>>41008111
yes
its broscience levels are off the charts

>>41008764
deca has a longer ester than test e so it takes longer to kick in
10 weeks is an exaggeration, its more like 5-6 weeks to reach peak blood levels
cycling deca overall is p stupid imo because there is evidence of metabolites sticking around for months after coming off, which can potentially suppress your testosterone production

Sup /fraud/ friends.
I really want to switch my routine.
Thoughts on VDIP or Jacked and tan 2? Any other routine you guys have in mind for me to check it out?

Shit, I hurt my back doing squats. Not my lumbar region, but the thoracic region (mid back). I was coming up and I think I stopped tensing my core hard enough and I felt a little "tweak" in my back. I think I pulled a postural muscle or something.

I really hope this clears up in a week because I'm wasting time on-cycle with this injury

>>41009150
can't believe this meme is still in effect

use any calculator for half-lives of esters and you can find how to have your blood-levels maxed from the first few hours with any ester

also all substances obviously "kick-in" the second your blood levels reach reasonable levels (first day, always)

also, if you have a good amount of experience you will feel exactly what substance you injected within the first day, regardless of looking at the label

especially tren/deca is really easy

>>41009360
peak blood levels isnt the same as "kicking in" but sure
tren e usually takes like a week for me to feel though

>>41009386
well, try taking 800-1000mg the first day, and tell me if you don't feel it

same strategy works really well with deca but you can take more to get things going

>>41006186
250mg Test E E3.5D

>>41009080
Got a price in mind m8

>>41008479
Not him but Why vitamin b6

>>41009395
youre contradicting yourself

>>41009451
in on this hitting week 4 test-e 250mg e3.5d and no e sides yet..

>>41009360
>also, if you have a good amount of experience you will feel exactly what substance you injected within the first day, regardless of looking at the label

Lol

>>41009454
>>41009633
I'm about to go to work so I'll be gone for the next 8 hours.

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Is this not masT? People on reddit are calling this guy "Ninja Tyler" and apparently he is a russian who can OHP 4plates "with ease".

>>41009451
>>41009778

Bloods are the best way to determine but assuming you can't/won't get the bloods what ai do you have on hand? Adex or asin?

>>41009854
Never seen mast wear a deathstroke mask

>>41009854
no its not him
he has a youtube channel, its p funny

>>41008536
>>41008567
>>41008479
>>41008488

thank you

>>41008523

Used that calc before, says between 17 and 19% depending on whether I put 34 or 35 as waist size. So guess that must be about right. Will check again once I hit 185lb. Does 170lb sound about right for hitting 10% with lifting and high proteib diet along way?

>>41009854
not masT. pretty based fella nonetheless.

>>41009871
got asin

>>41009871
>>41010222
was gonna start 5mg ed?

>>41009992
Yeah well an inch will affect the result.

Take measurements first thing in the morning after your first piss/shit and before you've ate

Had a bad pinning experience today.
>fill pin
>pick injection spot (left delt)
>Push needle in
>Feel a bit more resistance and pain than normal
>Try to push down on the plunger gently but it's a no go
>Give it a bit more pressure and plunger blows off the needle spilling juice all over my arm
>Clean up
>Fill new and pin 1/2 lower than my last pin
>Everything goes smoothly.

Anyone else do this before and why do feel like I'm about to come into some wicked pip?

>>41010321
Had one time where i wasn't able to push the plunger at all in my delt. Just gave up and pinned my vg instead without any problems

>>41010321
MasT has a fun story about aspirating puss

>>41010406
nice

Can you avoid acne on cycle? Is it true that it is caused by hormone fluctuations? Since tapering is useless, is proper use/timing of ancillaries the key to not breaking out etc?

>>41010463
My acne improved after injecting 60mg testE/week

it all depends on genetics

>>41010511
60mg?

>>41010945
Might put him at 700+ ng/dl if he's a good responder

Been on cruise 250 test for few months losing weight, Nearing the end of my cut.
Never blasted or used anything besides test-e/c

Would it be helpfull to finish the last bit of the cut with LOW tren dose.
And whats the lowest dose of tren i could use.

Or would it be smarter to just finish cut with test cruise dose only and THEN, just blast for the first time.

Whats the best place online to get gear, prefer a uk based business, i live in the valleys in Wales but wouldnt have a clue where to get legit stuff from

>>41008912
thanks m8, now i have more confidence in my stash

>>41009824
if you have tried tren you would know this is true

otherwise you got bunk tren

Anyone here tried IRC Bio products before? How's the quality?

>>41011047
100 tren 250 test a week worked great for me

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Where do I buy generic cialis for my peen? Been having a hard time keeping a boner during sex so I wanna try tadalafil while I do no fap

>>41007971
I've had fish scale.

>>41011505
If you really understood how gear works you would know this is not true

>really feeling that deca kicking in man

>>41012146
Have any of you tried dick pills? Dafuck works? Do they vary for each person or what bc I've been seeing a shy ton of people say those gas station pills work for them but that sounds sketchy

What size gauge to draw?
What size gauge to pin?

>>41012374
Cialis is based, viagras good too

I'll use them usually first time I'm fucking a girl because I occasionally get performance anxiety
Or just for fun because mega dick is p cool

>>41012386
18
23

>>41012386
Though I'm using 25g now and they're better.

>>41012386
18
25

>>41012323
You get your bloof situation sorted?

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>>41012660
Current bloof levels are acceptable

Settled on 50/50 drol dbol
Introduced EQ but still haven't pinned tren. Might today.

>>41012764
Why does your girl take good mirror selfies but you don't?

>>41003183

I am skelly if I do roids will be become a big guy?

>>41012428
i couldnt cum when i used cialis
dick too hard, lowers sensitivity

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>>41012780
>implying my mirror selfies aren't based
>implying I'm not 10x more aesthetic than my gf

>>41012764
Dropping the orals when the tren hits I hope.

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All black Flyknit racers Y/N?

>>41012992
Orals are love and life.

>>41013378
Nike are dogshit and those look like a wicker basket

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>>41013417
Who do you like, Adidas? I was trying to pick up some red wings iron rangers too.

DYEL. Obese mode. Low T, low 230's.

Doc prescribed Test Cypionate 200m every 14 days. 8 weeks we test again, low 400's 11 days after last injection.

Said that's within normal but we can go more frequent to even out the crash. Down to every 10 days.

Pinned last night (is that the right word?) Woke up with monster wood.

Question is, what do I need to do to get healthier. Aesthetics aside, I want to get stronger. Do I research workouts and lifts then hit the gym/ground running? Or are is there a specific diet plan and workout regimen I should do now that I'm test?

Please berate and rip me apart if you must. I want to learn. I want to get there. I don't want to die...

>>41013504
If you're just at normal levels and dont intend on upping it go read the sticky

>>41013504
Pin twice a week, for one thing.

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So it's dicking time at school for the next month but I really want to take this girl out on a date. Problem is the only days she has off are Mondays and sometimes Tuesday so it'd have to wait til early May when finals are done.

Advisable to ask her now and plan it out in advance or do you think it'd have her overthinking it and cause her anxiety? If that all goes well and she can get time off I want to take her to Keukenhof over in the Netherlands for a little vacation.

Recomping is fucking with my head. Im on week 8 of my summer shreds blast pill popper edition and even with a 500-700 kcal deficit my scale will not go down. I believe im getting leaner in the mirror and all my lifts are slowly progressing but I feel like I should be lighter. Should I drop my calories more now that Im into my second week of var?

Also this is my blast;
Weeks 1-16 350 mg Test E e/w
Weeks 1-3 75mg Adrol ed
Weeks 4-13 8mg Ephedrine x3 ed
Weeks 7-13 50mg Anavar ed
Weeks 13-16: 20mg Sdrol ed

AI- 6.25 Asin. (Idk if i should up this or not, im already running low test and I dont seem to aromatize at all.

Also I got and used tudca for drol and sdrol and have been taking 2500mg nac ed

>Inb4 just run tren for a recomp.
b-but orals are fun

>try to psmf a couple times
>always binge my ass off after
>run an even higher total deficit with dnp but eat a little below maintenance
>0 urges to binge at all

Why

>>41013667
>I believe im getting leaner in the mirror

This is what matters.

>>41013633
>So it's dicking time at school for the next month
Wut

>>41013633
When you set appointments for sales, do you set the appointment out a month in advance? No it gives them time to consider and weigh their options and probably back out.

Keep the pressure high and maintain fear of loss. Hard to do that with such an extended timeline.

Keep her in your back pocket and press little by little over the next few weeks. Or re-evaluate your timeline.

>>41012992
I'll drop your orals mate

>>41013693
I hope so but also my mirror likes to act like a fun house sometimes so I don't know what to believe.

>>41013684
Is psmf worth doing when natty?

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>>41013716
>press little by little over the next few weeks.
Like just keep flirting and shit? I usually see her all day at work and try to work together but that didn't work today and I noticed she seemed kinda sad as opposed to her usually cheery self.

Or re-evaluate your timeline.

She knows I'm in school and busy for the next month but I don't want some other dude to try and swoop in. Which is honestly unlikely because even though she's incredible she doesn't really do much outside of work.

>>41013698
Like exams and shit.

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>>41013790
>I don't want some other dude to try and swoop in
Rethinking it, honestly she'd probably just tell them no because we're pretty close as it is.

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>>41013746
Enjoy your heart problems from all that stuff m8

>>41013790
I mean your biggest hurdle rn is overthinking it.

Just maintain interest and fear of loss.

Just caught this young (like 16) girl mirin me at the gym.
Feels good man

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>>41013878
Fugg getting relationships started is always the hardest for me.

Did you ever go hiking in LA? That was another option I was thinking of for later.

>>41013906
A girl that's friends with that scar girl Jerry posts keeps acting all autistic when we're at the gym together and she's like 16 too so I don't know what to do. Super skinny though, hnng.

>>41010321
You probably hit some scar tissue

>>41013790
How does finals = dicking time? Wouldn't it be the opposite? Just fuck around and party all semester then just load up on adderall and focus for a couple weeks?

Can some of you guys share kind of how you got started with steroids and stuff? Like what was your first cycle like, how good were the gains and how it affected you mentally and things like that? What lead you to start? etc.

Just kind of curious what I could expect. I'm kind of afraid to do it because I'm worried about complications from pinning. Namely infections and also I read about a guy who pinned in his glute but he hit his sciatic nerve, sounds terrifying

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>>41014003
Well it's my final semester at this school before I transfer so I was trying to do well.

>>41013991
Ive only pinned that delt a total of 9 times but maybe. Im going to leave it alone for a bit and move on to somewhere else.

>>41014014
Dbol is good for both mental and physical gains. Just run that for your first cycle and you will be like a king in the gym

>>41013961
Yeah I did. My go to was a night drive along the hills over Hollywood tho. Some cool spots to park and enjoy some intimacy up there.

>>41014103
I thought I was only supposed to do a basic 500mg/wk test-e cycle for my first time

>>41014127
ok there reddit.
Legit ask any roider you know and I can almost guarantee you that they started with 60mg dbol ed for like 6-8 weeks as their first cycle

>>41014169
yes maybe highschool footballers and people from bodybuilding.com

it's retarded

>>41013785
I'd recommend against it.

>>41014169
>ok there reddit.

well I did get that from the reddit sticky or whatever it is. But even this thread tells me to go to reddit. So what do you expect

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>Mid terms in three days, been prepping my shit for six weeks but still got them shakes.
>Group project with fucking retards due in a week, one dude is AWOL, chink in the group barely speaks English.
>Munching a mixture of ritalin, dexies, armodafinil and valium.

I'd better get a fucking job after this bullshit, all I want to do is lift weights and build robots. Bob Couch has it fucking right.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rhl5K0mTSKY

>>41014191
>>41014169
who do I believe

ugh

>>41014169
>if a bunch of people do something it must be good for you!
Ok there tobacco lobby

>It's another episode of my Canadian source being a fucking idiot

SAVE ME

>>41014216
Do what you feel is in your own best interest.

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>>41014239

>>41014014
Complications are possible but unlikely if you do your research and you're not an idiot. Lots of people recommend roughly 500mg of test a week with an oral to kickstart for your first cycle.
>what I could expect
Honestly 90% of the stories you hear are exaggerations. You won't go crazy, you won't turn into Phil Heath overnight, you won't start banging four chicks a day. You'll progress faster, recover faster, and be a little stronger and better looking.

>>41014224
Head down south to Freedomland

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>>41014200
>build robots
Automation degree? Look into DARPA or other assorted darker government agencies.

Fuck group projects though. I have one in my online art class and 1/2 the people are awol

>>41014114
Sounds bueno

>>41014224
Who is it this time?

>>41014305
Still this mongoloid that starts with a T

>>41014351
>Him again
Not really surprised. I've ordered from him before but after this 3 month shit show never again

>>41014296

Mech/Elect Eng. Shit is so fucking tight but they throw you in with the students who bought their way in and it's fucking bullshit that someone can have a diploma in English with nearly perfect scores when they clearly haven't been in the country for more than a semester.

I legit don't mind if they try to communicate because I get that it's hard and shit, but when they say fuck all and act retarded as an excuse to not do anything it's ridiculous. My back is getting sore from carrying these fucks. But if I say ANYTHING to my tutors/lecturers, even if it's worded so politically correct that tumblr features me and everyone claps, I'm still a racist fuck.

>>41013811
>posting women with shit skin
gross

>>41014401
The worst part is I still have some gear from him of early November and I don't want to get in touch with him to replace it.

Should I just pin it and get bloods early - like 3 weeks or so to see if it's bunk?

>>41014483
for me it was super easy

I asked "am I part of the bad batch?" and he didn't even answer, just asked me to forward him my original email order + my address and he immediately shipped me back 5 vials free of charge, no question asked. was at my door 2 days later

but now I'm wondering if my first "blast" was actually just a relatively healthy cruise lol

>>41014516
Fuck I deleted my tutanota email

Besides I'm not even sure I trust him after all this...

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What have the psychological benefits of frauding been for you guys?

Personally, I'm still as shy as ever but my motivation for lifting has increased tenfold.

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>>41014476
Nigga what. How is her skin shit? Work QT has flawless skin with tons of face freckles and no make up. Fucking stunning honestly and that's coming from somebody who has done scouting for modeling.

>>41014734

Changed me on a fundamental level. Before my cycle I was lazy, I had no motivation to lift or for life. I was a fat piece of shit and on top of all that, a pathetic drug addict.

By the time I was finished, my old habits didn't satisfy me. I didn't and still don't want to play video games, I don't want to waste my time. I found new hobbies that I enjoy more and that better me as a person.

It was the kick start I needed to fix my fucking life, I'm still just as much of an addict but at least now my habit is helping me as opposed to holding me down. When you live your life making accomplishments on some arbitrary number pixel people game it fucks you up, once I saw real gains and accomplishments I never wanted to go back.

>>41014783
she's got bags under her eyes and moles count as shit skin.

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>>41014922
Bags are temporary as shit famalam. Moles, and specifically hers aren't huge and don't really detract from her appearance IMO.

You seem like a "elbows too pointy" kind of guy.

>>41014783
>No makeup
All girls wear makeup, even if it's just the basic level (Like foundation etc)

>>41015055

So you actually know some girls or you just see them online? Asking for a friend.

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>>41015055
Not work QT, she literally rolls out of bed at 0300 puts on sunscreen and comes to work. It's spooky and I'm kinda jealous.

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I haven't been happy since I was a kid and didn't know about sex.

I've had some brief respite in the gym so I workout daily whether it be cardio or weights but I know I have months ahead of me before I'm lean enough to attract a woman.

I've always looked fine but no woman wants you when you're 16 years old. Well I'm 18 now and 20+% bodyfat and haven't even pinned yet. So many days knowing that I'll still feel nothing. I'm confident and know I'm doing what needs to be done but this is a long road that I thought would be finished years ago.

Here's to hoping we all make it, some of you doubtlessly have.

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sup fraud I've been posting here for like a month about ot start my first cycle. Everyone was shitting on me for being fat and homeless.

So update. I got a place to stay now and I've been cutting weight hard for a month. This was march 10th.

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>>41015186
this is today. I was thinking of starting this week or next. Do i have yall's approval?

seriously depressed. can't enjoy things. lift almost every day, but low energy.

thinking about doing test. is there anything to read about test therapy with pros and cons

>>41015192
took a month to change the pose and lighting huh fatass

>>41015195
If you have low testosterone it will help some. If not it won't really do shit, could even make it worse (estrogen too high/low). Look up testosterone replacement therapy.

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>>41015202
so is that a no?

>>41015246
unless you want to stay fat then no

no one cares if you have muscle if you are that fat (or fatter after/during your bulk when you will also be bloated)

if you have some insecurity about being weak or tiny or some shit then i guess you dont care

but aesthetics purpose-wise, just cut all the way then do it

>>41015270
How much longer do you think I should cut? I've already been eating like 1500kcal for like 3 weeks.

>>41015284
until... you... are... very... lean...

hello friends, anyone miss me yet?
>>41015246
cut until youre comfortable bulking hard for like 3-4 months straight without feeling like you have to cut, which is what you will be doing on your first cycle

>>41015320
this was my mistake on my first and second blasts

didnt get lean enough although i was not fat, but then bulked way too hard and got fat as shit

>>41015320
>>41015295
>>41015346
I've definitely lost some strength eating as little as I have. Will I make most it back the first few weeks back on cycle? That's really my only reason for not wanting to keep cutting.

>>41015356
you will probably regain most of that lost strength after replenishing your muscle glycogen, going on steroids will do the rest and more
try doing a reasonable cut, why are you in such a rush?

>>41015381
because he is obese probably

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>>41015381
about 7 months ago before I was in this financial situation I was much stronger and I've lost quite a bit of it. I guess I'm desperate to get it back.

This was after a bulk at around ~190. I'm barely 170 right now.

>>41012428
Is there anyway to get then online without a prescription or what? I don't have time to go to a doc and wait for it

>>41016093
most sources carry them

I've been doing test + teen for 8months and now I'm forced by court to be in a rehab for a couple months. How long will it take to recover without pct? Its been 3 weeks and no sex drive

>>41010945
>>41011001
I meant 600 obviously you mongs

>>41016118
Idk what these sources are..

>>41005851
>Most likely

hey faggots

fat dude here that strength trains pretty seriously (1700 total @ 220 @ 5'8). personally i dont think i am THAT fat but i definitely have a gut on me

anyways, what kind of gear should I look into if I plan on taking it only for the purpose of changing how I look? I am guessing if I just take test for eternity like most people do, I'll more or less stay the same body composition while gaining some weight

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>helped coworker bro to get a date with this cute tiny Columbian chick who I thought I didn't really like

>Suddenly I want to bend her over a table and fuck her till she can't talk.

T-thanks tren.

>stopped enjoying drinking
>no longer get hard to trannys
Is tren making me even more perfect?

>>41013961
>A girl that's friends with that scar girl
Hit that so I can get her number

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>>41017962
>tren making me even more perfect?
Tren makes us all more perfect.

>Hit that so I can get her number
I would fuck her honestly she's probably ~90lbs super skinny and flat, fug. Want her house number?

>>41017994
>she's probably ~90lbs super skinny and flat
You say that like its a bad thing

Shed just laugh at my teeny weeny if I called her

>>41017962
just roleplay as a cute shota boy

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>>41018047
Shotas are gay anon
Im not gay

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>>41018021
>You say that like its a bad thing
Nah I like it. Short, flat, skinny. The size difference is hot and kinda kinky. Plus if you've got a big old donger you may not be able to use all.

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>>41018132
it's not gay if you're the shota being taught about sex by a voluptuous older woman...

>>41017748
Steroids won't magically make you look like zyzz if you eat like a lardass and never do cardio. Best thing would be diet and cardio. Maybe medium dose test to keep strength up while you do that.

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>>41018216
>zyzz
>cardio

Who needs cardio when you have DNP guys am I righ- HNGNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

>>41018150
Why does everone say that
Doesnt matter if a normal flacid dick is bigger than you at rock hard

>>41018178
Thats extra gay
Big breasts are as gay as it gets

Why is everyone so mad on 4chan and posts things like "you fucking faggot you are so retarded" but in this thread it's mellow?

>>41018401
cuz its ded

>>41017748
>strength trains pretty seriously
>isn't already on gear

Just hop on test/EQ and enjoy recomping while making strength gains.

are orals worth it?

>>41018697
if you don't mind getting liver replacement surgery

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>>41018234
Too soon lol

>>41018701
Disregard this pussy.

>>41018401
people who ask retarded questions get that treatment every time

>>41018697
They're ok, I prefer orals.

>>41018879
Pussy scared of needles faggot bitch

>>41018701
Mesterolone apparently isn't hepatotoxic

>>41018932
Proviron isn't methylated on the C17 carbon so it's probably not very liver toxic.

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Can we get the CBT threads renamed /FakeNatty/?

>>41018999
it's also not very good lol

the idea of someone running an oral only proviron cycle is incredibly funny to me though

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whats the go with dosing asin. tiny half life but suicidal so suppressive over a few days?
my mates are running 5mg ed on basic cycles currently but everywhere I see it recommended 12.5mg eod or e3d..

>watching a tear jerker
>realize I forgot my ai

>>41019149
Ai is very subjective, you have to find your own sweet spot
Im at ~15 mg per week atm (when I remember)

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>doctor blames my hypothyroidism for my low testosterone and wants to treat it before giving me TRT

FUCK

>>41012980
You're on roids with no visible abs? The fuck man

>>41019720
t. newfag dyel

>>41019259
>feel sad af over exgf while hanging out with grill I've been dating
>get sad af over stupid netflix show
>cry while listening to some shitty song
>feel lonely af
>don't feel like fucking qt grill (can't cum when I do) just want to cuddle with her all day
>dick can't stay hard for more than 2 mins even with tons of cialis
>feel depressed af
>nipples are puffy af
>skin is pure oil
>realize I haven't taken AI in a week even though I upped my test dose 2 weeks ago

sup bromos

how was the weekend?

>>41013540
Only thing I could up is the frequency per docs orders. Said we can to every 7 days after my next check up.

>>41013557
Half dose each time or a full 200mg each pin?

Please keep in mind my test comes from a script so I don't have access to more than what is prescribed.

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Hey guys, I want to start using HGH to try to get a few more inches (I'm 5'8, 19 and grew an inch in the last year so hopefully not growth plate fusion).

I plan on getting 3 months of HGH at 3-4IU a day. How much should this run me for good drugs and how can I be sure I'm not poisoning myself with bad stuff when I get it?

Thanks.

I just shot 125mg test/300 tren and literally just had the worst tren caught of my life hahahahha I was dry heaving and gasping for air. Threw up in the trashcan from caughing so hard. Feelsbadman

>>41020465
go to a doctor. this is more complex and potentially life-changing than recommending chicken breast instead of coca cola.
good luck

>>41020465
>19
>taller from hgh

LMAO nice try manlet

>>41009824

I agree that I notice an immediate spike in aggression and a bit of restlessness at night within like 48 hrs of first pin of tren.

I'm also a stupid asshole who used tren before knowing that these were some of the side effects but on my life I noticed these things the first time I ever used it.

>>41020919
gotto love the bologna

>>41018370

small tiddie goals sempai.

Dead

>>41021701
Jul?
who dis

>>41021741
became namefag when you were busy/gone. Anonposter for pretty long

>>41021784
'ait :)

Where do I get CIALIS

>>41021926
if you really have to ask that, i sincerely hope you get your dick ripped off in an accident

fucking nigger retard

What's the lowest tren dose you guys have used and still gotten some benefit from?

if im prone to prostate cancer is it smart to take steroids

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>>41003204
You're on gear and look like that? whew lad

>>41022053
Well then I wouldn't need cialis if that happened. There isn't any way to get generics without a prescription? Don't have the time to make an appointment and all that nonsense

Does anyone here unironically enjoy training?

At this point it feels just like a chore and grind to level myself up.

Seems like ive been doing this for so long and already plunged into drugs years ago that stopping now would feel like im giving up something important.


Plus ill get fata lot easier if i dont lift.

I finished my PCT but im still feeling low test 8 weeks later.

Can I take 4 weeks of nolvadex again or maybe some clomid?

>>41022113
You have three guesses, first two are free third will earn you a skeptical Costanza of my choice.

>>41022293
>he doesn't like MMO-style grinding

you're not patrician enough

>>41022359
>feeling lowtest
well perhaps go do a blood test to see if you are low test or if its in your head

>>41022293
The only thing I don't fully enjoy is training legs, but I do it anyway cause I ain't no chicken leg lookin motherfucker

>>41022293

I do. It's what gets me out of bed in the morning and keeps me from being a sack of shit.

Have you considered changing up your training? Maybe switch to something new.

>>41022293
I get like that sometimes

Honestly if you take a short break while cruising you wont lose much
Can come back in motivated

>>41022390
Well I definitely have no sex drive/libido like literally none at all so I know its not in my head.

If I tell my doctor i'm low test (without mentioning roids) and I do come back with low test results then what will he give to me?

>>41022293
yes. I go to the gym every day.

>>41022293
I have an injury so don't you tell me you dislike working out. I can't work out right now.

how much do steroids change your personality, and by how much/what way?

i dont care what i do besides DNP, i dont mind deca or tren or test-e, or HGH or most popular injectables.

how would they change your personality as a relatively sensitive bitch? i hate my personality for being such a faggot but im largely soft spoken and shy

>>41022556
they aint gonna change shit

I'm wanting to hit all my body parts at least 3 days a week, but I'd rather not do UL.
I was thinking

>Mon - Chest/Back/Arms
>Tues - Shoulders/Legs/Chest
>Wednesday - Chest/Back/Arms
>Thursday - Shoulders/Legs/Arms
>Friday - Chest/Back/Arms
>Saturday - Shoulders/Legs/Chest

How's this sound?

I want to smash my arms and chest, if nothing else, and I'll be starting Tren as soon as my caber comes in.

>>41003204
definitely NOT 13-14 more like 17-20
you shouldnt be roiding and i hope you didnt roid for that

>>41022582
surely it changes your mind in some way

stimulants dont radically change your personality, but the side effect of weight loss from appetite suppression puts a lot of smiles on ex-fat people's faces, which subtly changes your life overtime

i wonder how ill be after a notable time on various steriods. i really want to try all the major ones, im sure im in the bottom 10% of males in terms of natural test production, lol

>>41022768
>10% of males in terms of natural test production, lol
Everyone thinks that, they're just lazy and impatient

>>41022768
you will be bigger and leaner probably, which could mean that you would be more confident depending on your personality
could have some problems with acne and gyno, which could have the opposite effect
some short term short temper and emotional behavior from estrogen imbalance and tren is also possible

>>41022674
Do push pull then abxabxbxabx

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>grew up fat and low test
>get on TRT, but cutting is taking forever

Still 20lbs to go if I just want to be 15%. Fuck me. I'd just psmf if I didn't care so much about gym performance, but it would take way too long.

Guess I'll just be suffering for another half a year.

>>41019657
It might actually help you in the long run. Be patient anon.

>>41022674
looks good imo
just watch out for front/back delt imbalance and be wary of your exercise selection in order to avoid elbow tendonitis

Will roiding fix my softcock? My sex drive is seriously depleted and I never get those rock hard, throbbing boners I used to enjoy as a teenager, I think years of depression and shitposting have fucked my shit up. I can take or leave the muscle gain, but will more test make me into less of a faggot?

>>41023021
did you post seeking a solution, fatty?

dnp because your gym performance doesn't matter in the short-term
psmf (see above)
try doing cardio for once, not just dieting

>>41023088
>Will roiding fix my softcock?
you can, but if boners are the primary reason you're considering roids you should probably stick to TRT only

see an endo and get a hormone panel done in any case, low test might not be the reason

>>41022479
Libido is the one symptom most likely to just be in your head lol

>>41003359
You're my kind of bro, bro
Post pics

>>41023088
How much cardio do you do?

>>41023121
Thanks, don't get me wrong I'd like to get swole too but my primary interest in it all is to stop being a sadcunt, I guess I'll talk to my doctor about it first.
>>41023146
practically none

>>41004587
I'm so fucking sick of Tai Lopez.
>start YouTube video
>piss sounds
>"what's the easiest way to make six figures?"

SHUT UP IM TRYING TO LIFT YOU ASSHOLE

>>41023166
cardio can fix your boners, try it for 1-2 weeks 30min ed

>>41023174
who the fuck are you

>>41023121

No, I just posted to complain. I know how to fix it, it just takes time.

>>41023192
I'm gonna take your word for it and see if it fixes my boners before I do anything else, thanks.

>>41023238
How out of shape are you, as teh other anon was getting at cardio helps bloodflow which = boners but you may need to change your diet ect too

>>41023238
Cardio improves blood flow and circulation. Boners are dependent on good circulation. I definitely get better boners when I'm doing cardio regularly.

What's /fit/'s opinion on prohormones? I have a mate who's done Trenavar and swears he made great gains. Are they bullshit or worth trying?

>>41023352
Mostly bullshit. Minor gains are there but so are sides, and cost efficiency is abysmal with most. Just pin test m80

>watch runescape documentary
>cry from nostalgia

ffs tren

Is clomid absolutely necessary for a proper PCT? Or will I be fine with Nolva ED and Aromasin EoD/E3D?

>>41023292
I'd say I'm pretty average for a young male, I dl two plates and can run a 5k in about 30minutes, skinnyfat. I've been changing up my diet recently, eating around 3000cals on days I go to the gym and 2200 on days I don't.
>>41023341
I'll try it out then for sure, should I take one rest day a week? I could run for 30 mins mon-sat and then take sunday for my legs to recover?

>>41023969
If you're carrying a bit too much fat it can fuck body chemistry, lowering bf% may very well show you the result you're after.

>>41023398
Thanks bro, my biggest problem is I don't know any reliable sources for Test, I knew a guy who was good for Var but he's disappeared

They same time on - time off.....

So if I'm running a 16 week cycle (10 test, 14-16 PCT)

Would I wait 10 weeks after injection? 16 weeks after last day of PCT?? 10 weeks after last day of PCT? I'm confused on this

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New thread:

>>41024036
>>41024036
>>41024036

>>41022363
kek

>>41023925
Depends on what you were running, but for most moderate cycles tamoxifen alone should be fine. Also be careful with aromasin during PCT.