/fat/ - Fatty General - Evening edition

>>40594794
It's 11:02 am where it matters, cunt.

>>40594691
>plateau
It could be a few things, but the solution is all the same. You're eating too much and need to cut more, you need to put some cardio in your routine, or you have some stubborn water weight. Cut some calories this week and work out a little more, then check next week.

>>40594854
alright, I'll try to put in more work this week.

thanks friend

266lb, 6ft1, starting calorie counting today. been sitting at this weight for years. thanks for the inspiration guys.

>>40595099
you'll make it friend. was a bigger guy at the end of last year, around 275. Now at 246. watching what you eat makes a huge difference

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>>40594794
>1 large tomato, 45cal
>1 large cucumber, 66cal
>2 small red onions, 18cal
>1 sausage, cut up, 206 cal
>white wine vinegar, 2cal
>basil, 5cal
>parsley, 5cal
>1 tbsp olive oil for the sausage, 60cal
405cal total and it's a fuckton of food. Who else /goingtomakeit/

235 lb
6ft13in

I'm getting mentally prepared to go fit. Any routines to start doing shit? I've been a couch potato for over two years and I don't Have any strength, how do I start regaining muscular strength?

>>40594794
down 26 pound since mid january, im pretty ok with that
will keep going, need to lose another 65 or so and I'd be comfortable

>>40595345
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>>40595345
1k calories in 2 burgers , 1 apple in the morning ,125g of greek yogur for dinner .
1250cal daily for 30 days , so going to make it

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I miss drinking so much, that's the only thing that's gonna set me back. I can't sleep, I have headaches, I'm aggressive all the time ever since I stopped drinking because of weight loss.

Honestly, I don't even care about hunger since it comes and goes but I do miss drinking man. I used to drink a bottle of wine every day, I haven't drank in the last week but I'm struggling. Is there a way to cope with this?

>>40595784
not sure if serious

>>40595810
Find a better way to deal with your problems and take some control over your life

>>40595784
This sounds a bit ridiculous but fuck it, go for it if it works. Keep us updated on your progress. Stats?

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>>40595389
Start doing a strength program like SS or something similar for at least 6 months and then move onto whatever you want (Bodybuilding, power lifting, O-lifts, strongman, crossfit, etc.) Also stretch my man. Your hips, back, hamstrings, etc are probably horribly tight and need a lot of work if you've been doing nothing but sitting for the past 2 years.

>>40596037
>6 feet
>22 years
>started 110kg at jan 1
>now 98 kg at march 5
1500 kcal diet and gym 3 times a week

Been doing PSMF, down to 230 from 270!

I can finally start seeing my facial structure, I look in the mirror and check out my jaw and wonder how I'll look once even more of this fat is gone.

Not even feeling hungry at all.

>>40594794
5'11, 103 kg here
Breakfast: oats + milk (500 kc)
Afternoon: chicken + rice + vegetables (1200 kc)
Evening (300 - 1100, depending if I train, have one training or two): pancakes with oats, some fruits and vegetables, eggs, cheese, peanuts... depending how much I trained today

My try in week to train 5 times, 2 times cardio and 3 times weights, program stronglift. I loss 14 ibs in 2 moths, but I try to get more muscles than be trap boy

>>40596401
>lost 12kg on burgers
You're going to make it

>>40596768
>eating that much
You're not

>>40595345
1tbsp olive oil is more like 120 cals.

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>bought a pack of polo shirts a few motnhs ago for work and they sent me large instead of XL
>they were skin tight and didn't fit at all
>put one on today and now it fits
>tfw

little things like this make me so happy when weight loss feels stagnant and like im not seeing progress.

>>40594794
whose picture is that on the wall

I'm 300lbs will I die if I try to do couch to 5k?

>>40596721
>>40597084
Visible progress really is the best appetite suppressant. Good job lads

>>40597056
Well see bitch, I screenshot this. Remember that I calculate calories every weekend and I try to be consistent with fit sticky... We will see each other in December on this board

>>40597152
This

Make sure you own a tape measure to calculate dema body fat % boys.

>>40596768
>2000 ~ 2500 calories a day
What are you 6'4 300 lbs?

>>40597223
just got a tape measure and some skinfold calipers recently, excited to more accurately track my progress.

>>40597264
Each inch feels fucking phenomenal

>>40597149
no, but your knees will. You no need to lose 120lbs before you should consider c25k.

>>40597149
Diet. Walk. Lift dumbbells.

Don't run at 300lbs.

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>tfw have to buy new pants because even my tightest pair falls off

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Overcooked steak and potatoes. I'm gonna make it right? It's only 400 or so calories together.

>>40597855
>large steak
>half of a greasy, oily potato

Yeah that's more than 400 calories friend

>>40597877
One potato is about 120 ish calories.
The strip steak was 4 ish oz according to the package, which is about 260 calories.

Any oil is from the steak juices. Which I cooked the potatoes in.

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>>40594794
feelin pretty gud lads

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>>40595810
>. Is there a way to cope with this?
meditate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaNO09cPS6c&spfreload=1
http://marc.ucla.edu/mindful-meditations

>>40598005
Good progress bro
>tfw you will never be an amerilard with tiny units
>tfw your weight loss charts will never be as impressive because the numbers aren't as big

I want to work out maybe after work or before bed. I usually have dinner after work. Should I eat before a workout or after?

>>40598164
fanks m8
pretty much all anglos have this problem
both UK and commonwealth ride this uneasy line between metric and imperial
>brits measure weight in fucking stones

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>tfw your gf says she likes the fat pad above your dick because it rubs her clit while fuckin

Don't try to hinder my progress woman

>>40598197
don't fall for the vaginal jew

>>40598164
Yeh m8, most measurements that we don't use for science were developed to be easy to relate too.
Like any temperature between 0 and 100 f is pretty tolerable with a heavy jacket or a stringer and shorts

had a really shit week and got really down. was odd cause i never usually get depressed or miserable, i've always been good at just carrying on. spent the weekend eating 2.5kcal a day, mostly junk food. today i had pizza, cereal and chips. i feel much better, and i don't think i broke maintenance

here's to another week. week 6. pls go better

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How good would a pair of customizable dumbbells be for weight loss/muscle definition? I plan to eat a 700-1000 calorie deficit each day and won't have any other exercise equipment.

>>40598526
If those chips were from a packet then you've definitely gone over maintenance. 1 pack of 200g chips can be 1500 fucking calories.
Still, we're basically like priests around here; ask for forgiveness for your sin, cut harder in the coming week, and say 20 hail scoobies.

>>40598547
Good for your arms, shit for anything else. If you're cutting at a 1000 deficit then you should probably either join a gym, or just do body weight exercises and cardio until you've lost weight, then join a gym afterwards.

>>40598547
Get more than 24kg of total dumbbells.
I've bought 24kg and regret it. Only 12kg in each arm.

I'd say it's pretty good. It's been helping me a lot.

>>40598568

no i count calories in everything and they were 600, cereal was 600, pizza was 900

All I gotta say is fuck kidney infections and fuck cranberry juice and fuck who makes cranberry juice. How can they let that much sugar into shit we feed our children? I'm drinking two cups a day and it puts me THIRTY GRAMS over my daily allocation.

>>40598608
Nutritional values in packages exist for a reason.
Don't blame the company, blame irresponsible consumers like yourself that buy that shit.

>>40598608
I've been eating about 300g of sugar every day for the last 10 years.

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>tfw literally forgot to eat enough today
I only recently started using MFP but fuck is this an unexpected feel.
Goodnight, /fat/ :3

>>40598697
Braves fetti :3

>>40595810
push through it anon. at one week you are over the peak of withdrawal. good luck.

>tfw been doing keto for 3 days and no cravings at all despite eating <1300 calories at 6'1" and 260lbs


I am not even in ketosis yet and I am not hungry is this magic?

>>40598965
Welcome to keto, friend. Hunger cravings are caused by the evil carb and sugar.

>>40598989
I never tried keto in my life.
So if I cut out all carbs and sugar, replace them with protein/fats/greens, how much weight can I drop within the first month?

>>40594794

Who here has slayed the emotional eating demon? I've spent the last two years fucking yo-yo-ing, losing motivation hard. Started lifting like 3 years ago @ 150kg+. I get soo fucking close to the last bit, and then fuck it up. I've lost the same 15kg like 3 fucking times now :/. I go from like 125kg to 110kg over and over. My last dexa almost a year ago I was 21% bf...at 116kg, got down to 110kg, hurt my knee, went up to 130kg, down to 120kg, up to 130kg, down to 125kg currently.

Problem isn't even meal prep any more (I didn't have time to cook because I just focused on upping my income hardcore for a few months, but now I can spend ~$200 a week to get everything prepped, cooked & delivered), problem is I have a freezer filled with healthy food at all times, healthy meals defrosting in the fridge, and I deal with emotional stress / anxiety by going and getting a greasy fucking burger / shitty snack food. I eat fine for a bit, then something stresses me out / fucks with my state, and I use food to cope with it.

What do? Antidepressants seem like they're more trouble than they're worth (weight gain and impotency come at me)? Therapy? Meditation?

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>>40599863

>>40599863
>diagnosed with depression
>permanently tired, and every few months it hits me hard
>start working out, eating healthy
>depression kicks in, have to take time off work, can't work out, only eat shit
>resets any progress
>repeat
fucking kill me already

>>40599863
Meditation helps especially when those cravings hit. You just sit down and ride out the urges until they dissipate.

For practical matters, try finding "healthy" options to binge on. Like carrots, celery with hot sauce, or cheese and jerky.

>>40599644
It's all about calories, not fat/carbs/protein. Eat less than you burn and you will lose weight.

Since i started eating healthier and restricting my calories (started 7weeks ago) i just can't sleep longer than 4-5 hours a night. I could easily sleep 8-10 hours before the change, any ideas why?

>>40600930
some more info my cut isn't retarded i eat 2000kcal, i didn't fall for any meme diets, i move more. Also eat way more fruits and veggies, yet i slept way better when i ate trash all day.

hey bros

just found this thread, glad to see you made a general

over 300 here, started counting a month ago when I got diagnosed with the beetus.

On a 1800 cal limit and eating bretty clean, fresh foods.

Wish me luck.

>>40595810

I'm exactly where you are now. Hang in there. You're almost clear.

Day 2 I straight had a panic attack. It was fucking scary son. Thought I was going mad.

>>40599895

Welbutrin?

>>40602197
>the beetus
is it reversible with a special diet and weight loss?

>>40602452

Sorta, I guess. Exercise too. It "promotes" better health. A1c levels are down.

>>40602471
seems like a great motivator

whoever suggested cold showers for 30 days yesterday, i tried it. very difficult and i didn't manage to get my back completely under it. makes my balls hurt too.

>>40597413
>>40597460
Would cycling be better for someone that size?

>>40602848
Not that guy but how about starting off at only slightly warm showers?

>>40602902
Yes, but remember it won't burn much calories so you'll have to do a lot. A looooot.

>>40600930
This is fucking great though, what's the problem? I sleep 10-12h per day on my diet, and sleeping hardly burns any calories. Enjoy your blessing

>>40596768
too much carbs senpai, eat less

>>40594794
That bodyfat calculator is shit

http://www.healthcentral.com/cholesterol/home-body-fat-test-2774-143.html
Use this one next time.

Just spent all day doing meal prep. I learned I'm pretty slow at it and should probably split it up next time but I'm also really happy. It'll keep both my husband and I on track and I don't have to cook all week which means more time for work outs!

>>40597084
That's awesome dude. A few years ago I was on a good path and managed to drop three pants sizes and I cried when I put on a pair of pants that I couldn't button before and found they fit.

Then my ex and I broke up and I ate my feelings.

It was seeing this effect in reverse (I've never been larger than a size 16 (femanon) so it freaked me out that I was getting bigger) that got me to change again. I went out and spent a ton of money (like almost a full $1000) on home gym equipment (no excuses if it's at home) and stuff so I could meal plan (pyrex and extra mixing bowls and shit)

So I'm ready to do this.

>>40602848
cold showers are tough to start with, when I got my new house I had no hot water for 4 months so I had to deal with it and eventually it gets easy to do.

I don't think they will help you lose weight really, but it does wonders for your willpower.

>>40594794
Worked out so hard today I had to actually take a breather after my deadlift set, even though it was light because I don't DL often so I need to get my muscles used to the movements again.

Got home, bought enough chicken and rice to last a week, can't seem to put down the carbonated jew though but I'm still below my TDEE by a wide enough margin that it won't affect my weight loss.

My body is fucking burning and it's not all the Cayenne pepper I put on my chicken.

>>40596249

I wish someone had told me to start stretching 2 months ago when I started. It's so fucking obvious now, but i never considered it.

>>40595810
>I'm aggressive all the time ever since I stopped drinking because of weight loss.

You sure about that? I prefer an irritable sober person to a drunk.

I am having trouble maintaining a proper diet. I don't mean that I don't have the self-control, I do, but I have been counting calories and measuring things and it is just a big pain to portion things out precisely the same way all the time.

Is there an easy way of keeping track of calorie intake without having to bust out the scale?

>>40602944
>This is fucking great though, what's the problem?

The problem is that i'm tired all fucking day and in a bad mood.

>long ass day at work
>10 hour shift
>spent the entire day running around
>walking places
>carrying a heavy ass (50lb) backpack around
>then I cleaned the fuck out of my workspace
>have to wake up an hour early tomorrow to get into work early at 630am (it's 650pm right now)
>have a fuck ton of chores I need to do around the house, need to make the whole house spotless, iron my uniforms, polish my boots
>on top of all that, I'm cutting at probably around a 1k deficit (5'11, 205 lbs, 1500 calories a day)

I skipped my workout today brehs

I know it's not the most ideal thing, but if I'm still following my diet, one extra rest day wont kill me r-right?

I know I know

>not gonna make it

But today was long, and it's supposed to be leg day...which is fucking boring.

Is bread really that bad?

I've been thinking of adding a toast with some butter on it with morning coffee.

>>40603065
>picking things up and putting them down
>eating right
>drinking the carbonated jew
You understand that it's undoing all your hard earned progress, no? Switch to diet drinks if you're so addicted to sugar.

>>40603086
You have to put in the effort if you want results. That being said, if you're lazy you can buy things that are already portioned on the pack so you know the exact caloric content beforehand without weighing. But it means you lose a little control over what and how much you want to eat

>>40603132
The wheaty jew is pretty bad because its just carbs, lots of calories and the Chinese food of the west in that it doesn't fill you up at all. If you're looking for breakfast food you're better off with boiled eggs or some fruit, aren't you?

>>40603132
bread is fine in moderation, just make sure it is real bread and not white bread or toast.

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FATSO MEALPREP FTW

M, 175 cm, 95.6 kg.
My weight was 101 kgs Jan 28

breakfast 1:
protein shake, coffee. 123 kcal

breakfast 2:
63g oats, cinnamon and 2dl almond milk. 246 kcal

lunch:
80g brownrice w/ chicken 100g and 100g thai curry
591 kcal
100g frozen thai greens: 35 kcal

snacks:
beltsanders brownie
30g protein, 2tpbs cacao and 1 tsp bakingpowder
~ 165 kcal

Dinner:
80g brownrice, 150g tuna, 10g mayo and some salsa.
~535 kcal
100g mixed frozen greens: 35 kcal

snack:
protein cookie
100 kcal

total:
~1830

>>40603194
>or toast

literally what's the difference between bread and toast, nutritionally?

>>40603229
Is the brownie really worth it?

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>>40603229
Here's an actual meal without the coke ;^)

1500

And then cucumbers afterwards.

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>>40603254
>165 calories
>30g protein

Literally nothing wrong with the brownie

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What's the bare minimum calorie intake for a healthy cut?
On a 1500cut right now and managing it quite easily. Would it be cool for me to cut it lower to like 1200 without killing myself?

>>40603291
That's a stupid question to ask without posting your height/weight

>>40603298
5'9, 170, down from 180.

>>40603254
Try it!

ngredients:

25g scoop of any flavour whey protein (chocolate works best)
10g Cocoa powder
1/2 teaspoon baking powder
Enough almond milk to for a stiff batter (any milk will work just as good)
Method:

•mix the dry ingredients together in a large mug, add the milk and stir to form a thick paste

•Microwave on full power for about 90 seconds (microwave times will vary)

•That’s it. (It’s literally that simple) enjoy

>>40603291

Healthy cut is when you can comfortably hit your protein and fats.

It's very easy to cut carbs for lower calorie intake.

I canno't give you outright the absolute bare minimum calorie intake but you can definitely do 'healthy' 1200kcal/day if you get it purely from chicken breast, veggies, fruits, oats, greek yogurt etc.

Is 280 to 210lbs in 5 months unhealthy? 6ft 3 btw was recently 320lbs

>>40603291
How much is the calorie deficit?

>>40602452
yes, if you were not born with it

>>40603326
Doable and not unhealthy. It comes to losing 3.5lbs a week and 2300 cals a day (with moderate excercice). The hardest part is to be consistent through the journey.
You can play with the numbers here
http://www.healthyweightforum.org/eng/calculators/calories-required/#activity-level-tip

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>>40594794
Thanks for the loser town link I just set the table to my back ground after making it fit in microsoft paint.

>>40603291
Just keep it at that I"m eating at the same right now and some days I need the 1500 hundred and some days I don't. It's nicer to just have the number there and do more cardio or something then if you fail it doesn't feel as bad

>>40603722
Id recommend redoing it every once in a while, sometimes something unexpected happens and you may lose twice as much because of some reasons or just plateau for two weeks. So its important to keep it up to date as much as possible.

>>40603746
>tfw you finally see the numbers go down again after plateauing for a couple weeks

There is nothing as disheartening as hitting a plateau and nothing more motivating than getting past it

>>40595810
Sounds like withdrawal. You are potentially an alcoholic at a bottle a day.

>>40603006
time invested=gains. Invest a lot of time in your health and it will pay off.

>>40603810
I cut pretty hard and haven't had a plateau yet, but for the fatanons who have, when you break the plateau do you generally lose a "normal" amount of weight or the normal amount + the plateau weight? Assuming you didn't cheat and eat a pizza or something

>>40594794
>can of tuna
>diced tomato
>2 soft boiled eggs
>chili flakes, herbs, salt, pepper
>all mashed into a bowl
550kcal, super filling and protein for days

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>>40604030
usually a bit more than normal, but not all of the expected weight.

Post em /fat/bois

>>40604235
>70lbs in a year
Solid effort. Threw me a bit because of American dates, but nice work. Height and goal weight?

That being said, what are your fake myfitnesspal names, lads? Let's add each other and r8

bobberbobber (I know, first dumb shit I could think of)

>>40597152
I remember that feeling when I got my first pair of slightly smaller work pants.
absolute heaven

>>40602902
swimming would probably be best, if anon can get to a pool

>>40604299
yeah the date's are fucked on mfp.

6' my goal was 180lbs by the end of April, but looks like it might take until the end of May at this rate. Going to decide what to do after depending on how I look/feel/bf%

>>40604030
>>40604331
How many calories do you eat a day? What kind of exercise?

>>40595099
9 months ago 6'1" 245
now 203

the only hard part was the decision
you're on your way

>>40604371
1500 a day, low carb (but not keto) and at least 3 hours of jogging a week, split up over the week.
Made some great losses and hardly ever hungry. Went from 102kg to 91.7 over two months, but that's including water weight.
Remember, coffee is life, coffee is love

>>40604371
I'm
>>40604235
For the last 3 months or so:
around 1500-1800 calories a day, I don't track macros. Jump rope HIIT 3 times a week and I walk at least 3.5 miles 5 days a week.

I have a cheat meal once a week that's big enough to make me not want to eat for the rest of the day.
I think I'm going to give IF a go soon

>>40604514
If you've gone this far IF probably isn't necessary, the only people it really helps are those who probably don't eat breakfast anyway and love having one massive, calorie-dense meal

Just started my cut yesterday, trying to stay steady at 1500 - 1800 calories a day.
5'11" - 270 lbs, want to get down to 245 (any more than that and I look emaciated).
Also note, I'm ftm trans and started T in October last year so I imagine that will help in some small way.

I have no idea what I'm doing at the gym so I feel at a loss, I've never worked out before beyond physical labor (worked on a farm with horses). My dysphoria made me feel hopeless in the past years and I gave up on myself in a lot of ways. Trying to fix that now, what a wreck.

>>40604952
you'd have to be over 7ft to look emaciated at 245lbs.

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You can do it brehs, dont fall for the 500kcal deficit meme. I've been eating 1500kcal for 10 months and work a physical job and it's been fine.

hi r/loseit

made some vegetable soup yesterday.

hoping to go from 250 -> 199 by June 5.

>>40605208
But by eating 1500kcal you're in 500kcal deficit at the very least...

>>40605208
>>40605333
he is implying that people should have bigger deficit than 500 however he himself didn't have a much bigger deficit than 500-800 himself.

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Who /weigh-in day/ here?

Hoping to cross the half century mark today, I was only a couple pounds away from being -50 earlier in the week. Will check in after work

Is eating eggs and some bacon for dinner a bad idea?

>>40605208

This is true, I've been doing 1500 a day and the weight has been MELTING off (also stopped drinking as well because I was a borderline alcoholic, LOL)

>>40605471
preferably swap the bacon for something leaner. you'll thank yourself.

nothing wrong with eggs (again, prefer hard boiled over fried).

>>40602990
Think you're wrong m8
The other one says I'm 19% and this one says I'm 14%

I'm 5'10" 205 and used the same measurements for both but I am 100000% sure I ain't 14 let alone 15% bf

eating two small thin crusted pizzas for dinner. surprisingly high amount of proteins and low amount of calories desu

Does lifting make you spend calories?
Do you include it in your calorie counting?

>>40605953
yes
no

>>40605467
Well? Did you cross it? Post your progress pics

>>40605953
Yes, quite a bit if you do it right. No, you don't count workouts in your daily calories. Some people say to do so and they're the ones who won't make it. "B-but my app says I walked a lot today so deserve this high protein chocolate bar" type of shit

>>40605953
Yes.
No.

Never include workouts in your calorie counting unless you're doing long distance running, HIIT, or 2-3 hour lifting sessions (with constant lifts).
Even then just add like a chicken breast or extra protein scoop, don't add an entire meal.

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>tfw you find the cure to your pastry cravings
https://www.t-nation.com/diet-fat-loss/tip-make-low-carb-mug-cake-in-60-seconds
12.5g of carbs, 14.8g of fat, and 34.5g of protein (305 calories) without the drizzle. I like to add some blueberries and a mix of Greek yogurt and cinnamon for icing.

>>40605972
>>40605987
>>40605990

Thanks lads.

>>40605714
So do the people who post IIFYM type stuff like this or rave about the amazing macros of a Big Mac ever actually post evidence of progress?

>>40606027
One big mac once in a while wont change much if you're consistent about your diet and calories on the other days.

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>ate almost my entire calorie allowance for breakfast

It just added up so quickly. Sardines before the gym, proton shake after the workout, and so on. Rest of the day will be an orange, apple, and sweet potato maybe.

1600 calories is fucking harsh when going to the gym 5x a week.

>>40606027
a bigmac has 500 calories with a decent distribution of carbs, protein and fat. While it isn't the best food to eat, it is not as bad as a most other fast foods.

>>40595389
>6ft13in
I don't think you need to lose weight pal

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>>40606061
>unironically eating breakfast

>>40606128
I prefer a big breakfast and big dinner vs no breakfast.

I don't like bringing lunch to work, such a pain in the ass. So I just eat big before and eat big after.
Everyone does no breakfast but that doesn't make sense to me, I want the energy for the day and I lift in the mornings.

Hey i don't know if i'm welcome here but i don't think anyone on thinspo will answer me this question correctly

I'm currently sort of skinny fat (172 cm 57kg) probably sitting between 17% and 20% bodyfat

I have muscles primarily in my arms, chest and legs from calisthenics and running, my question is, if i work these while at a caloric deficit (-800 or -1000) on a low carb high fat high protein diet will it actually help to keep them while i'm losing bodyfat?

I'm not looking to gain muscle while losing fat because i'm aware that's impossible but i was wondering whether working them out would help to lose the least muscle possible

Or should i just go full cardio and then bulk a little bit afterwards? I just want to get lean, not huge

set your calorie goal to be the maitnence of your goal weight, and you'll be happy for life

>>40606161
I do a lot better if i train fasted for some reason but i guess it depends on the person

>>40606170
>will it actually help to keep them while i'm losing bodyfat?
Yes. You want to lift as much, heavy, and frequent as possible when cutting to maintain as much muscle as possible.
High protein diet as well.

>>40606170
Read the new section in the sticky that covers body composition. Work out, get your noob gains, and keep running, you actually can gain some muscle if you're new. But don't cut at -800 or -1000 if you're just skinnyfat, you'll lose far too much muscle. Some cardio, some lifti-

>I just want to get lean, not huge
read the whole sticky, actually

>>40606211
I gym fasted as well most the time, but eat a breakfast after. Don't like to gym on a full stomach or a big meal.
Small things like sardines, a banana, etc before the gym at most.

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It's stats time! Where are you and where did you start, /fat/?

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I keep over eating. I was at 1200 calories today before bed and i usually have 1800/day, which works for me. I thought it would be ok to have a little something so I ate some soup and mini shrimp which added up to 420 calories.

There were ribs laying around from last night and i hadn't had any since i work night shift and have to leave immediately. I THOUGHT one would be okay. 800 calories later I am a day farther from 160 lbs.

>mfw this isn't the first time
>mfw I am miserable and alone at my current weight
>mfw I know life will get better if I can keep a cut for a year
>mfw I ca commit long enough not hard enough

>>40606295
Marathon, not a race friendo.

I feel it's perfectly healthy to eat over your maintenance or even TDEE every now and then.
Just not weekly.

I've lost 90lbs now and every now and then I still go out to eat with friends, drink booze, or buy junk food. Just try to keep it to a minimum and stay 100% on point every other day. Still have 30lbs to go though.

3 egg omelete with bacon and feta cheese drops?

Are all the googleable results without olive oil? Because how can you cook an ommelete without olive oil? it ll stick

>>40606386
Why not just weigh them all out and be certain rather than guessing? Then you can be sure. But yeah, the oil is going to fuck you. You could always try cooking the bacon first and then the eggs in it's fatty juices

>>40606295
don't punish yourself for it. everyone slips up sometimes. try to best yourself each day.

>>40606221
Alright, thanks man

>>40606235
Alright i'll try to increase my calorie intake but i actually feel bloated if i eat more

>read the whole sticky, actually

I figure you mean the lifting weights will not make you huge part

I honestly don't lift because i find it boring and i get a body that i enjoy out of calisthenics + cardio, or were you refering to something else?

Old fag, 38, 110 kilograms, 1year 9 months gym after many years off. Doing 5 days split one day only cardio 45 min, everyday 20-40 min cardio. Still 110 kilos, strength gains came but not spectacular as everyday workout would suggest. I watch people come and go for a few months with visible results. Now March April people to fix body for summer beaches are starting to come for a couple of months.
I go to the doctor for checkup, everything very good except testosterone is abysmally low. Well not just low but below safety health levels. Doctor suggested hormonal therapy but asked if I am trying to have children this time, which is true, and told me I couldnt have itnow. I am feeling fat and 100 years old while benching 1+3/4 plates. I am losing my will to live. This life sucks.

>>40606386
Get a kitchen scale. Weighing stuff adds at most a few minutes total per day to your time spent preparing food. Weighing a single ingredient and recording it takes maybe 20 seconds. Especially if you eat the same stuff everyday, you can just memorize the amounts and skip the recording part for even less time spent.

FUCK WEIGHING

>>40606762
its pretty disheartening eh?

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>>40606762
>>40606796
>not weighing
casual scum

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>>40602197
Try Keto. May help reverse the beetus and will help with weight loss/hunger pains.

I'm getting measured and weighed in on Saturday m8's. The next 5 days will be spent working extra hard so I can be proud of this month's progress.

coming to the end of my second day on 1500 kcal lads. not too hard so far, though i imagine it'll get more difficult as the week progresses. we're all gunna make it.

>>40607255
>getting measured
is it penis inspection day again already?

>>40607307
Keep strong lad. I'm currently day 5 and it comes in waves. Some days are easy and others are hard, but the true weight loss comes from not giving in. Last time I cut for an extended period of time it got very easy after 2 weeks.

>>40605333
>>40605438

I had way more than a 500kcal deficit, I walk 12-15 miles a day at work as well as lifting shit for 10hrs. I also do fasted cardio for 1hr 4 times a week and don't count it toward my goals for the day.

My mom made bacon and eggs this morning and didn't make any for me, so I made the rest of the 10 eggs and 10 strips of bacon and ate them all. How will this effect my gains?

>>40595810
Second that. First night not so bad second night can't sleep and anxious. Haven't made it 3 days yet. I don't drink heavy anymore but still a beer a night at least. I have quit dipping and lost 25 and started working out and running and drastically changed eating habits so I'll accept it for what it is

>>40607820
that's great progress. cutting it down gradually is the best way to avoid the symptoms you describe, good luck bro

>>40598181
we measure w8 in rocks m8, stonehench

There's a local weight loss event going on, and they're offering free classes at the YMCA, CrossFit, local yoga place, and 10% off at the local bike/running store.

I have a home gym, and pretty severe anxiety, but I really want to make sure my form is correct with the lifts on the SL5x5 program. There aren't many lifting classes at our local YMCA, but there is a "LIT (low intensity interval training)" and "HIT" class that say they use free weights and running. I know I can just go and try it for free, but I don't want to have an anxiety pants pooping episode and not even learn anything.

Thanks for existing. Moral support, at any rate, is key.

Fitness isn't just about getting swole.

>>40608051
>pretty severe anxiety

Same. Eating gives me a dopamine rush which quells it for a bit. Panic attacks here, it fucking sucks. Therapy and mindfulness of the condition helped me a lot.

Wish you luck m8.

Lads, cereal is my kryptonite. I love wheaty and oaty ones
What should I eat instead when I have a craving for it?

>tfw you try hard to lose the weight you put on after highschool for years and get almost no progress
>tfw it was hypothyroidism the whole time
smdh desu senpai

>>40608083
are you able to have a small serving of it? I love Having a little bit of comfort food once a day, like 100 cals of cereal before bed or something.
But then again if its only going to trigger you and make you binge the whole bag you shouldnt.

>>40608051
Repeat after me.
No one cares about you in particular.
You're just another random background character until you personally interact with them.

>>40608074
Eating does the opposite for me, mostly because my anxiety is diarrhea based. I'll go out and be perfectly fine, then I'll experience the slightest bit of gas, which will cause me to have a panic attack, which will cause me to shit my pants, literally. I've had it happen within 10 minutes of leaving my house. The worst part is, my parents don't believe anxiety is a real thing and they think I'm shitting myself because I don't want to go places.

>>40608154
Invest in a squat plug.

>>40608142
100kcal of cereal, thats like 10 gram and 100ml 1,5% milk.

>>40608154
how does this even work? Do you have liquid shits all the time? Shouldn't a diet change change that?

I'm 5'7 and weigh about 165 pounds should I be cutting or bulking I got no idea

>>40608484
I have perfectly healthy shits as long as I'm staying at home. My doctor said that the anxiety is causing a lot of acid to release in my stomach and intestines which causes diarrhea.

>>40608154
>they think I'm shitting myself because I don't want to go places

That would be some dedication right there.

>>40608548
so you are like a human octopus? not the shittiest super power i suppose.

>used to work out a lot
>2+ hours every day at the most
>lose 30+ kg
>fall back into depression
>maybe overexerted myself when slowly tried to work towards 4hrs a day
>haven't weighed myself since

I've tried to get back into it slowly. Can't go for long hours away from comp. or some other distraction. Can't jog/walk but I started with those grip trainers and I can feel my lower arms starting to swell a bit. I train regularly with those when watching videos or anything that gives pause.

Can I expand this to squats or something else?

I've been taught you should always work up a sweat before training but this is about all I can manage right now.

>>40608548
Holy shit. Every time I have anxiety i have stomach issues with it. Gas bloating then I feel like the gas is pressing on my chest heart then I panic. I will have anxiety for couple months get it under control for awhile and it creeps back in almost as soon as you forget about it

>>40607768
are you 12? retard

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Every time I make oatmeal the Quaker vanishing oatmeal raisin cookie recipe begs me to bake it.

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>all this junkfood in the home

Living with parents is true suffering, living in an area with ridiculous housing prices, rent or otherwise, is worse.

I just had to pass two boxes of cookies, a box of timbits, and case of coke and it kills me inside.

>>40609148
You think those things suddenly go away?

Practice discipline, it's a skill.

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>>40609173
I've been learning to discipline myself with a number of things.

Converting to Christianity took a lot of discipline so cutting out junk has been relatively easier than it ever had been. Prayer does wonders it seems.

>>40603116
>skipped a day
It's okay, anon, you're going to make it.
>it was leg day
Do 4 sets of 25 free squats as penance.

>crippled, hard to work out
>start eating healthier
>not even two weeks and already down 10 pounds with minimal exercise

feels good.

>>40609201
>Converting to Christianity took a lot of discipline
what? you literally sign a piece of paper thats all.

>>40595345

I usually just ignore the calories from veggies...
Im doing that wrong?

>>40598697
Satan's Language

>>40608502
Look in a mirror, how are we supposed to know

>>40608619
>shittiest
abs workout is done for the day now

>>40609486
I'm actually a burger, I just live and work in Berlin, aka cuckburg

>>40609296
Good job! Do you get good arm gains from wheeling everywhere? And out of curiosity, how do you weigh yourself?

Any ideas for chicken breast with iceberg salad?

What dressing should i use? Dont know what else it needs to be good

>>40597149
No. When I was in high school, I maxed at 310 and I used that plus dieting and other exersies to get down to 250. I feel off the boat for like 4 years and just started to do it again. I'm 263 right now and I've been doing it for 2 weeks. I fucking hate running but It's some of the best cardio out there

The key is not to push your body too much. JOG, don't run at max speed because you'll get a heart attack and knee problems. Just jog slowly(that's more than enough at your wieght) and spread the first 2-4 weeks out so youre doing maybe 1 or 2 day a week max. The other days do low impact cardio (like e bikes)

>>40609663
Dressing should be some sort of 0-5cal vinegar, with maybe a bit of water. dont fall for the majewnnaise

>>40609717
No, iceberg+chicken needs mayo or something else, fuck off with that idiotic vinegar meme

>>40609731
Then why the fuck did you ask, go drink your low fat, organic mayonnaise which is 2500cal per cup and enjoy

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>>40597109
here you go anon
>>40598547 theyre pretty good for arm definition but you wont be losing weight as fast, get a jump rope instead

>>40609796
You almost blocked out everything, but there's a tiny little >Leo Tolst on the right. Good try though

>>40597855
That's a snake not a steak

>>40609460
>I usually ignore potentially hundreds of calories every day
Do you eat potatoes to lose weight, by chance?

>>40610170
Not for tatos...
But.. Logging lettuce is a wasting of time. Cabbage either

>>40610170
Even broccoli is irrelevant

>>40605151
I'm built really stocky, I've been down to 185 before and I didn't look healthy (though my parents sort of forced me into it- I was around 14 or 15 so I was more or less starved rather than eating better). 245 seems like a more obtainable goal to me.
Also I don't want to be SKINNY, I just want to be in shape. And I like a bit of heft, just not... this much.

>show us your dinner
Literally just a Timmies' coffee, half cream and a half sugar.
I won't be able to eat supper tonight and I've only had 500 calories before this.
wew lad

>>40610378
for reference:
>6'3"
>230 lbs
>lost 20 so far
>bench: 185 (I fear this might be down to 150)
>squat: 185-2pl8, depends how much energy I have
>deadlift: don't know
I'm trying to go auschwitz-mode here guys, then I can bulk back up. by May 27th, I'm supposed to weigh 200 lbs.

>hit a new PR
>vomit then pass out

A-am I making it?

>Signed up for Planet Fitness
>Already befriended a guy who is also an office worker who wants to lose weight
>Did about 45 minutes of cardio with him before he had to leave

Am I gonna make it?

>>40610357
>5'11
>thinks she's emaciated at 185
>says 245 is ideal
>"stocky"
you are tumblr incarnate. what are you even doing here

>>40610445
Lick that vomit off the floor, can't waste your precious gains

>>40610474
I'm a he, not a she. And I like 245 because I like heavier bodies in general, but I want to lose my gut and get in shape (especially upper body). Didn't say it was ideal, said it was obtainable. Learn 2 read.

>>40610565
That being said I also really don't know WHAT a good goal is, I have no idea what I'm doing. I read and lurk but I still feel like I have an information overload on this stuff.

shit I cheated today and had 8 of those coconut girl scout cookies. I have to drop like 20 lbs for my summer body.

>>40610565
>I'm ftm trans
no you're a she. Stop acting like you're a he.

>>40610802
Nobody cares fag

>>40610813
>having a huge body as a female
>having XX chromosones
>having the bone density of a female
"guise why can't I lose and keep off weight like a man can"

How do you guys manage to do proper squats? I have to squat on my toes or else I can't keep balance

>>40610896
practice slavsquatting m8
I'm not even memeing here. it helps so much with proper form if you slavsquat 5 minutes a day

>>40598181
Only people older than 40 use stones

>>40610896
Is it your ankles that lack mobility? Squat shoes help with lifting your heels while being steadier than a plate under them.

Or is it that you're forced to bring your knees far forward because your hips can't bend enough? Stretching can increase mobility in either one.

Like >>40610905 said, forcing yourself into a squat position where the tight areas get stretched and staying there for at least a few minutes will help.

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We're all gonna make it brahs. These are my face gains. It's been 10 months journey, but still going for it.

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hey /fat/, posted the other day about how im going to quit smoking cigs

5 days in, I'm feeling great. No urges or anger surprisingly, though I'm sure that's from going to the gym.

I'm also trying to quit weed, see if that improves my social anxiety at all. Wish me luck

>>40610905
>>40611137
Thanks. I was having a hard time trying to get my ankles angled right and I couldn't manage to get my center of gravity correct. I needed to lean forward really hard or stand on my toes to correct it.

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>>40595810
withdrawl.

get some xanax or order some kratom to help but do not just trade one addiction for another.

1st week is the hardest, you made it through that...

>>40602235
the primal fear and panic attack is fucking terrifying.. Its easier to deal with when you know its coming from withdrawl and will go away.

drink abunch of camomeal tea

How do you get the motivation to exercise after coming home at 7pm from work? I don't live in a nice area so I can't summon the desire to walk/run around the area.

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>>40611242
Ï still can't see in my head what kind of movement you were doing. Compare to this pic and draw a stick figure?

I will make it

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Rice and beans + hot sauce

1 cup Milk

Total is 722 calories. Might have some more protien later. Defrosting some salmon right now.

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>>40611378
Very similar to the right most when trying to do a flat footed squat. Similar to the stick man is what my body seems to prefer to do

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>people are calling me 'Bones' now that I lost weight and are commenting on how much weight I lost

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I still have to lose weight, STOP IT STOOOOOP

>>40610484
Fuck why am i laughing so hard.

>>40611520
Fuck man that shit pissed me off and is why I ended up getting super fat. Parents kept calling me a twig and shoveling fast food into my mouth.

325 -> 240 we can make it, man.

>>40611520
bitches know that its bones

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>>40611459
Can you get your knees to go beyond your toes like in all the different squat postures? Also, if you keep your back straight, can you at least bend over to make 90 degree angle like pic related?

>>40611602
I can do that bend. The only position from the chart that I can even do without standing on my toes is the rightmost one.

That feeling when you wake up and before you even open your eyes you feel how disgusting your belly is hanging on the side

>>40611628
Weird. The front squat position is usually the hardest since it has the most forward knee position. Well, do the slav squat stretching every day and hopefully it'll get fixed.

>>40610802
Nothing you say will change the fact that I'm male and on HRT, sorry m8.

Anyways back to lurking for me, that or I'll just leave out the fact that I'm trans next time lmao.

>>40611748
>Nothing you say will change the fact that I'm male
That's true, nothing *I* say will change it, but the fact that you're genetically female will be true forever.

My lunch and dinner were steak and salad. Had a ~30 minute run today. My goal is to lose ~4kgs.
Am I gonna make it?

>>40611830
Forgot to mention that I lifted too. The steaks weren't too big, around 150g each.

>>40611830
As long as there's a caloric deficit, you'll lost weight.

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Stew for dinner. Yummy!

5'9
196 LB

Supposed to be 150.

I lift a lot.

How much can I cut while still lifting and gaining muscle? Im currently eating 2150 calories a day, but I want to be at least 160 by June but it seems extreme and not likely. What do?

Hey guys, I just got out of highschool, im 18 years old, 5'10" and 220lbs.

Where do I start? I read the sticky and i can kinda understand the basics like terminology, but the actual aspect of putting in practice if foreign to me.

I want to get fit before anf during college, and Im just so frustrated because none of my """""friends""""" will offer any help.

I have like no physical ability, and I just need ways to build it up.

My mother gave me a membership to the local YMCA as a graduation gift, and I would really like to use it.

>>40611791
I'm intersex but nice try <3

>>40611919
Bulk or cut first, if you want to be builtfat just keep lifting.

If you want to be skinnyfat then cut.

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>>40611968
>1.7% of the entire population on Earth is intersex
I'm not saying it's impossible... but interesting if true. do you have any proofs?

>>40611941
Start by going to the gym and doing 5x5 Strong Lifts.

See if there are anyone who can help at the gym like a trainer or regular who can at least show you proper form and gym etiquette.

Fuck guys, 5'9 205 lbs here doing lifting 3x a week with cardio the other 2, trying to do 2000 calories a day, how will this end for me if I want to get back down to 180?

You're in a good situation because you're only 18. By the time you're a sophomore or junior you'll be fit enough to get all the bitches don't worry about Freshman year.

Find your TDEE and track every.single.calorie. you eat. Buy a scale for your weight and one to weigh food.

Then calculate what you want to lose. I'd say one lb a week is a good start so -500 from your TDEE.

Eating is the most important.

Lifting is fun, Find a fun routine I suggest

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/4uijsl/a_detailed_look_at_why_stronglifts_starting/

You don't have to start out heavy, start out with nothing if you need to just make it a habbit or find another easier plan.

Most importantly you should try to go for a decent weight right now.

Just try to reach 150/160 lb. At 1 lb/week loss it's going to take you more than a year. 2lb/ a week works too but it's going to be way too hard for you and you'll just give up.

Just focus a year on weight loss- cardio and eating under your calorie deficit. Try to eat mostly protein and drink water to fight off hunger.

You can lift while you're doing that to lift muscle and burn calories that way, I actually recommend it it's better than just cardio.

>>40611941
for you
>>40612069

>>40612048
Probably good but you should be about 150.

I'm in the same situation lost 10lb and am clearly much stronger than when I started. I could only lift 25 lb dumb bells now I lift 50-60 lb.

>>40611919

>>40612084
No way is 5'8 guy 150, more like 160

>>40612104
http://www.healthdiscovery.net/links/calculators/ideal_bw_men.htm

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Am i going to make it lads??

>>40612039
Not visible, outwardly I appear mmmostly femme, but I have internal testes located near my ovaries. I'm guessing that + childhood abuse is the reason I'm transgender. Since I like beef and muscles and feel more comfortable being referred to as male, I went that route!

>>40594794
is that a millenial woes wojak

>>40606243
6,2. started at 310, got to 190 2 years ago, lifted since and I'm back at 220 after going back up to 230 a month ago. Calling that a bulk is generous at best, although I was lifting I didn't give a fuck because I thought I made it.

It's hard to tell how well everything's gonna look when I take the weight off but I do have a pretty good gut and my chest is a bit flabby too. Ive been trying to cut down for the beach again just as a motivational goal. I'm fine with 190 this year, but I'm going to try to not gain the weight again this next winter like a retard.

Wish me luck bros, I'm back at it again niggas.

>>40612212
You're doing pretty good m8. What's your goal?

What is your guys ideal bf%? Realistically of course.

>>40612949
Probably about 12%

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>>40612908
NEW THREAD
>>40612908
NEW THREAD
>>40612908
NEW THREAD
>>40612908
NEW THREAD

>>40609648
Crippled, not disabled. I can walk fine, I just can't walk very far without intense pain starting to set in.

>>40612996
boogie is fucking disgusting

>>40612472
Well that's honestly very interesting. I'm glad you shared. Continue on then. Keep doing good on losing weight.

>>40611748
>male
>on HRT

if you're male then what are you transitioning from/to pal

in a few years time when this gender hysteria blows over I hope the medical industry has seen enough detransitioners that they can do more to reverse the physical changes that you're going to so heavily regret, although only an intense course of therapy will help with that self-image.

>>40611968
You know intersex conditions are variations of the male and female sex, not a whole new species unto themselves right? Anyone with Klinefelters is a male, anyone with CAH is a female, etc.

>>40595099

You're gonna make it

>>40611263

Thanks bro. I handled it decently. Went in the shower and sat down for 20 minutes and did breathing. I'm gonna get some tea tomorrow. Good idea.

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Rice beans and salmon with hot sauce,
And banana and chocolate milk

Totals just over 1600 cals. Almost 120 grams of protein. Gonna sleep after this.

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>>40614531
These are my calories for the week. I find having one high calorie day and the rest low calories works best for me maintaining strength and at the same time losing fat.

What routines other fatties doing at the gym? I'm doing starting strength right now and ive made decent progress but I've been on permastall on overhead press.

is a full body routine like this really ideal for a fatty like me? i'm 6'1 240 pounds

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I'm 183 cm and this is my progress so far.
I was 94 kg at the start of january and started tracking at the end of january at 1.7k Calories a day on a keto diet.
I'm down to 85 and haven't felt this good in like a year. My goal is probably around 80 or less, which shouldn't take longer than 5 weeks.

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>>40594794

>Long fag response here.

I started losing weight by just randomly eating 1500 calories per day.

My metrics are 5'11' or 185cm and 237 Ib or 108Kg.

After keeping my calories strictly at 1500 calories per day from Feb 5th 2017 until today. I feel like I've been eating too little and my body isn't responding well to it. I'm not getting pains or anything I just feel different in a bad way. My weight isn't melting off like it used to and my body just seems okay never eating anymore. I started looking into more calculations and shit like that and I've been finding a lot of forums and articles saying that I should just eat at a higher level and just do the weight loss for the long haul instead of trying to melt it off.

I changed my calories to 2340 calories a day. Given I currently weigh 219 pounds at 5'11”. I set the log on my fitness pal to lightly active and 1 pound per week. I'm going to start working a construction job and I do at least half an hour of cardio plus weight lifting and an hour of cardio on my off days.

I don't really know what my question is I'm just wondering if people think this is a good idea and if anyone has had any similar experiences trying to rush all the weight off and then switching to a longer drawn out plan.

I just want to squat, deadlift, and bench three times a week. Bad?

Bench 3x10
Squat 3x10
Deadlift 3x10

With some accessories, chin ups, face pulls, maybe some other shit you can recommend. Red pill me brehs

>>40611748
Trolling aside, you really do have to lose weight as though you're a female for now, at least until you've been on HRT for a few years. You have the rare gift of free steroids, so if you want to look like a man you should take advantage of that by cutting and gaining muscle mass at the same time due to those drugs.

Also post pics

>>40603032
LONDON
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>>40616052
Oh god you don't want to see pics, trust me. I'm full blown land whale mess right now thanks to depression-eating and lack of self care. Also my tits are 100% disgusting and ruined because of self harm and shit. Can't wait to have them medically removed.

Serious question though, should I focus on going skelly mode and worry about the muscle building after I hit and maintain my goal weight for a bit? Just thought this morning how me trying to build muscle while also cutting might make the numbers drop even slower than I want.idk anything though.

>>40616861
>my tits are 100% disgusting and ruined because of self harm and shit.
Now I definitely want to see

>2 slices of smoked bacon
>10g each
>250calories each
What the fuck is wrong with bacon?

>>40616939
answer my question and I might consider posting my beginning photos... they're pretty good for self motivation but whew they're U G G O

>>40612043
>See if there are anyone who can help at the gym like a trainer or regular who can at least show you proper form and gym etiquette.

I think that most importantly one should look at info available online. Books, articles, videos, etc. Sure some of it is bad but info gotten from gym-goers is more likely to be bogus. Trainers are only slightly better. It's best to go through a lot of info so you don't get misled from trusting the first source you encounter.

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did today 24km of cycling

feels good man

I don't have much of a question but I lost 20 (235 - 215) pounds since January. Counting calories really fucking works, I can't believe what a stubborn jackass I was before. Thank you based /fit/

>>40617212
As someone who dropped 100lbs before starting to work out I highly recommend doing it while you lose. You'll still lose at an acceptable rate, but you'll look much better after you finish losing.

>>40617212
now post dem tiddie

What's your guys MFP streaks at?

>you've logged in 157 days in a row

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>>40618059
You asked for it man. Took this on Saturday evening I think.

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>>40618111
And the front for extra cringe. Chin/neck area has always been double, even when I got to 185 as a teen. Hereditary.

>>40617195
Uh that doesn't seem right. You sure that's the calories after you cook it?

>>40618136
It's a lot to take in, I know.
>inb4 "kys"
Already tried m8, failed at that more than once so I may as well try salvaging the wreckage.

>>40618139
You are a guy wearing a bra?

>>40618139
>3 chins
Funny how no matter how much flubber you have you look like a dyke regardless

>>40618502
Sssorta...?

>>40618542
That's my least favorite part. Can't wait to have a neck again. :/

>>40618502
Show tits, sissy.

>>40618743
They're really not worth the trouble... They're scarred up and saggy cos I had a melt down and tried to pull them off.

>>40618787
tell me about your childhood

>>40618832
This thread is about to die... Ain't no reason to talk about that. This is /fit/ and all. I just want to learn how to lose weight and muscle up afterwards.