/fat/ - Fatty General

Why is my bench 60kg and OHP 20?

What exercise does /fat/ do and how often? I ran an hour every two days but have twisted my ankle and need something new.

>>40581975
I'm a poorfag with only dumb bells so I do an hourly dumb bell workout three times a week

>ate 100 calorie food
>1200 calories left
Cant decide how to divide them between ice cream/milkshake/chocolate crepe D:

>>40582113
Why not all 3?

Feel somewhat related;
>always use boiled egg as a snack food when I'm desperate but at my calorie limit
>finally weigh what 2 eggs is
>230 kcals
kill me

>>40582724
B-but 2 eggs is 140 cals i thought

>>40582724
>>40582779
surprise but they come in different sizes, thats why you should buy a food scale and weigh them.

>>40582834
But in the US you buy them according to size, so they're all within a certain margin of weight and you shouldn't need to weigh them.

>>40582994
This, you cant weight fucking everything.

You just assume based on their size

Anyone can help with a good workout with 2.5kg kettlebells?

Currently i have
2x 25 deadlift
2x 20 squats with kettlebell
2x 20 raise arms with a 2.5kg kettlebell each
2x 20 russian swing with both kettlebells
2x 50 moving the kettlebell around me
2x 15 american swing
2x 20 pulling up both kettlbells with one hand

Is this enough? do i need to add more? This is for losing weight mostly

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>>40582994
>>40583004

>not gonna make it
i actually bought a food scale for work so i can weigh food at my work.

>>40581966
are you asking why they're different, why they're low, or something else? how long have you been lifting? what sort of progression are you going for? are you hitting your macros? are you utilizing proper form for maximum gains?

>>40583041
so you're doing weighted aerobics?

>>40583143
i guess so

>>40583145
as far as aerobic workouts goes it looks all right. you're using different muscle groups and a wide range of motion. but with that sort of cardio you need to make sure to keep your heart rate up and sustain it for the duration of the exercise. as long as you're doing that you're golden. go up in kettlebell weight once it becomes easy.

>>40583161
>>40583145
also, make sure you don't use momentum to move the kettlebells. i've seen a lot of people do that when they run a low weight/high rep routine. start each rep from a dead stop.

>March came in lion
>ED also came in like a lion
Are there any techniques to curb appetite? I started drinking tea religiously and that has helped curb some of it. But I'm still having +3000 calorie days and when that happens there's only so much I can purge out.

>>40583207
Tea is good, as you've seen. Black coffee is also good (make cold brew, which has less acid and is a bit sweet naturally.)

IF can help get you on the right track as once you're able to restrict your eating to a 6 or 8 hour window it'll be more difficult to binge eat without feeling a lot of discomfort.

Ice water is good, too. I munch on the ice cubes while browsing or playing games. It keeps me occupied and full (to an extent.)

Pickles are excellent since they're calorie free (or virtually so.) Look into other zero-to-low calorie snacks.

If you feel the urge to eat try delaying feeding for thirty minutes. That's all. After the time's up reevaluate. If you have to eat, grab a small portion and force yourself to not get more for thirty minutes. If you're successful in maintaining that little bit of self-control you'll soon be able to curb your desires on a larger scale.

Figure out what you're doing when you decide to binge. Are you sitting around watching TV? Playing vidya? Make sure you aren't eating out of boredom.

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Ex-fatty here; finally looking normal.
Aiming for sixpack til summer

>>40583309
>hairless
sissy

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>>40583345
I grow hair like a monkey
Just shaved yesterday
Proof ?

Didnt shave legs

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>>40581998

>>40583366
Yeah lol, show us that gay leg, lets ignore your sissy hairless face.

Go suck a dick homo girlie, real men have facial hair

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>>40583407

>>40581966
use real measurements. not this eurofag shit.

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I lost 12 pounds over this past month.

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>>40583905
>winning
Alternative reality i see ;^)

>>40584062
pathetic

>>40584062
wrong board shareblue

From reading these threads, I've concluded that you guys have a really fucked up idea of what healthy looks like and want to lose weight way too quickly. There's no reason an adult male (yes, even one that is losing weight) should eat less than 2000 calories. You guys are setting yourselves up for failure by eating so little and restricting carbs. You're gonna end up in a binge-refeed recycle and stress the fuck out of your body.

Also it seems you guys only do cardio? Don't believe the lies that you should lose weight before doing weightlifting exercise. Do that as you lose weight. Even if you don't build the full mass you could if you were bulking, you'll build some. Barbell lifts are the best exercise and sure beats doing 40+ minutes of cardio.

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>>40584090
I wonder who will get destroyed next for treason ;^)

>>40584160
i agree with the first part, i say it all the time but a lot of people just want to lose weight as quickly as possible, then they come here and say i ate 8000 calories today help.

About the second part, i think lifting is a meme, the issue i have with lifting is the risk of injury is just too high. It is so important to do everything with correct form and if you have ever been to a gym half the people do i wrong.
Most sports will also lead to general fitness and an aesthetic body, you won't build muscle as fast but thats totally fine.

>>40581951
Hey I got a question; 234 here, used to be 250 at the start of January. if I just eat 1000 calories max a day and take vitamin C and multivitamins, is it a healthy way to lose?

My stats:
>6'3"
>(now)234.9 pounds
>Bench: 185 for 3x5
>Squat: 215 for 3x5 (I know I've been slacking)
>Deadlift: 275 for 2x10
>OHP: 120 for 3x10

>>40584160
>You're gonna end up in a binge-refeed recycle and stress the fuck out of your body.
Speak for yourself anon, I'm doing IF with a 1000kcal deficit and have zero desire to binge eat. I lift weights and do cardio

Mind over matter. Should be done my cut april 1st. I'd shoot myself in the face if I was losing weight at a 1-2 lb/week rate, 3-4 lbs is where it is at.

>>40584345

1000 seems really low. You must have some killer willpower
I'm 216 down from 245 and im doing 1300 to cut.

>tfw it's only been a month and I have lost 8kg
who /waterweight/ here

>>40584410
I'm literally taking caffeine and drinking water all day until my one meal at night. It's tough.

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>>40581951
>tfw lost 50 lbs in two months

Holy shit! I've never lost so much weight in my life. I'm gonna make it bros!

>>40584430

Why not have two 500 cal meals instead?

>>40584430
That's what I'm saying, though. Dieting that way is stressful on the nervous system. Most of the fatties in this thread aren't bodybuilding style cutters, they're just cutting for general weight loss and this method is not as sustainable longterm. They will end up yo-yoing between weights and fucking up their body chemistry

>>40584544
I guess I could have a top ramen meal for lunch and some salmon and rice for supper

>>40584314
Although risk of injury is there, that's true of any exercise. There's a little bit of wiggle room, I think. Your form would have to be real fucked up to just snap your shit up. If injuries are of concern, then use the cable machines. The point is just that strength training is just as important as cardio.

>>40584606
Great micros in that, bro...

>>40584532
what did you do?

>>40584606
Nah, stick with your one meal a day, it makes the cravings way more manageable. You don't get hungry at breakfast, I assume, and lunch is piss easy to skip.

>>40584642
Nothing but methamphetamines and dancing from midnight until 6am, my friend :^)

>Tfw just ate a chocolate crepe and chocolate milkshake
Hope it isnt beyond 1000 calories :o

>300 calories already today
>been awake 1 hour

What a I gonna do bros?

>>40584690
Stop eating, eat a big 1500 calorie meal and then cucumbers

>>40584690
Have some willpower. You can do it man. Just get caffeine supplements or drink coffee if you have hunger, and if you are feeling hungry drink water until you're gonna throw up. Easy peasy

>>40584062
His steak cook preference is literally the worst part of his presidency, that's winning

>>40584716
>worst part of his presidency, that's winning
t. Russian agent

>Had honey nut cheerios for breakfast, roughly 240 calories worth
>Had a chicken wrap for lunch, about 600 calories in all
>about 1000 calories left in the day

This is the worst.

190 pounds
5'10

Im on a 1700 calorie diet, should I restrict more?

I already do a small bit of cycling every other day

Any treatment/solution for strecht marks ? im down 10kg/ out of 30kg goal and they started appering

>>40584824

95% of men will lose weight on a <2k diet

>>40584844
But Im really stalling after only losing like 4 pounds

>>40584642
A very strict keto diet, with exercise at least 4 times a week.

>>40584827
Time, drink lots of water, moisturize them daily, get a tan

They will fade a lot, but can't get rid of em.

>>40584851

how long?

>>40584827
>wanting to get rid of stretch marks
for what reason? Let them be a reminder as to what you were, and why you should never get that big again.

>>40584915
5L of water a day , dont drink anything thats not water sicne 6 months ago

>>40584844
>>40584851
then again I use a scales in my bathroom and its supposedly very inaccurate

>>40584922
Like 2-3 weeks?

>>40585021
what? why do you think a bathroom scale is very inaccurate? Most bathroom scales measure within a 300gram margin of error.

>>40584160
>sure beats doing 40+ minutes of cardio
you should be doing both. cardio should be a staple of everyone's fitness regimen. i definitely agree about resistance training, but you can't neglect your cardiovascular health. and unless you're maintaining a good tempo while lifting you aren't getting enough during a workout.

>>40584642
Chopped my arm off.

>bout to go to a Mongolian bqq
it's fine

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>>40583105
>>40583004
>>40582994
>>40582779
>he doesn't buy his massive eggs from the neighboring village
confirmed not going to make it

I've been sick and the medicine isn't cutting it so no exercise in 4days. Stalled in weight loss ;-; been eating carbs and oil. The hunger isn't going away as easily. Im going to try to run today. Hopefully my nose isn't too stuffed up

>>40585291
>not exercising
>eating carbs and oil
FOR WHAT PVRPOSE

>>40583105
What in the literal fuck would be the point of weight any of that food? Bread, meat, and cheese give you exactly how many calories a slice is. And a small piece of lettuce hardly matters when counting.

>>40585297
I didn't cook for myself this week:c I had to eat something and mom made delicious pork steak coupled with black bean rice.

>>40585301
That's clearly a stock photo, no? Obviously nobody would weigh it all together.
The fat has gotten into your brain lad

Anybody got any advice for high protein meals that can either be whipped up in 5 minutes or prepared n frozen?

I always end up too lazy to cook healthy and look for the easiest thing. Frozen chili is great but looking for more.

>>40585427
packaged tuna or salmon
frozen fish
cheap cuts of beef, like flat iron steaks

as far as a whole meal, stir fry is quick and easy (especially if you prep the vegetables one day so you can just toss in a wok and get shit done)

omelettes are always good, too

i like making a couple of shepherd's pies and freezing them in individual containers. they hold up pretty well.

>>40581998
Nigger, I only own 1 '25 pound dungbell and I do a hour session 3 times a day, every day. My arms are in constant pain, but it will all pay off when they have gained.

>>40585427
Not a full dinner if that's what you're thinking, but cottage cheese + jam (I like strawberry, sugar free) works great. Lots of protein, slow digestive so keeps you full as well.

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>>40585256
>not using a special egg scale

not going to make it

>>40585427
Try meal prepping, you only need 2 hours to prepare food for a week.

>>40581975
On home days (3x/week) Pilates/Barre, cardio and yoga.
Other 3 days per week, gym for compound lifts and swimming/sauna/jacuzzi.
Rest 1 day.
I don't wanna end up with loose skin so going for recombination rather than cutting but still count and limit calories and carbs to reasonable amounts on all days.
It's working so far, I'm losing, getting stronger and no flabby parts.

>>40585475>>40585507
Thanks

>>40585527
Does cooked chicken make it a whole week in the fridge fine? What kind meals do you prep?

>>40585587
If you don't mind the chicken drying out a bit then yeah, it's fine. I grill chicken once a week starting this time of year and the last piece isn't the greatest, but it isn't rotten by any means.

I'm not into a lot of meal prep nowadays. I used to do stews, one pot meals, etc and freeze the leftovers, but now I eat a lot of salads, which can be prepped from day to day. It's nice because the meat is cooked and I just have to assemble it with pre-cut veggies. When I eat potatoes I wrap them in a wet papertowel after puncturing the skin and microwave them for about eight minutes.

>>40583041
Why not just buy the standard 8kg beginner kettlebell and do one of the many standard routines for it? More effective.

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I put on way too much weight because I wasn't actually calorie counting while lifting.

Now that I'm trying to eat only 1800 h

I'm only trying to do it for Lent but it's given me far more appreciation for healthier food in terms of calories.

But I really want a burger.

>>40585587
>Does cooked chicken make it a whole week in the fridge fine? What kind meals do you prep?

i prepare pretty much any normal meal, if you cook the chicken properly and put it in a sealed container it will be good for a week, if you are paranoid you can just freeze it.

My parents got me chicken sausage because they know I don't eat red meat anymore.

About to taste it.

>>40585427
Stew, kinda similar to chili I suppose, but still different.

Grill up a bunch of tasty meat. Frozen veggies can be microwaved in a few minutes

>>40585358
>I had to eat something
fat logic

>and mom made delicious pork steak coupled with black bean rice.
should have told your mom to fuck off.

>>40581951

Former hugefat here. Now am swolefat.

Started at 295 pounds last June (I'm 6'2"). Began with weightlifting, cycling (for transportation), and cutting out fast food and sodas. No calorie/macro counting, just abstaining from obviously shitty food.

Got down to 255 by October. From there didn't lose any weight or gain any strength for 2 months. I must've been eating at maintenance (like I said didn't count cals/macs).

Decided I needed to track my calorie intake if I wanted to continue to lose weight. Downloaded MFP and set my goal to lose 2 pounds a week. Adjusted the macros in the app to get 35% cals from protein, 35% from carbs, and 30% from fat.

Am down to 231 now. MFP had me at 2,340 cals but I dropped it to 2,200 and kept my macros at the same %. Everyone is telling me I'm too skinny but my goal is to cut to 220, bulk 5 pounds on a clean bulk, then cut again to 210. Probably stay on a bulking/cutting cycle until I'm completely satisfied with my physique.

My only setback in my eating habits is getting my kids on the weekends. I buy them chips and snacks because they're 7 and 4 and deserve a treat, but after they go to bed I'll end up digging into their junk food and regretting it the whole time. Willpower isn't great. It's easy to eat right when I don't have the junk food around me.

We're all gonna make it guyz

>>40585800

This is me. Also worth noting that I jumped headfirst into bodybuilding at the very beginning of my weight loss. Muscle burns fat even while you sleep. It is possible to make strength/size gains and lose weight at the beginning. When you run into a plateau you'll have to decide if building more muscle or burning fat is more important to you.

My lifts are currently at (5RM)
Bench: 275
Incline Bench: 205
OHP: 155
Pull Ups: 4 Bodyweight
Pendlay Rows: 185
Diddlies: 375
Squats: 275
Preacher Curl: 110
Standing Curl: 95

>>40584160
I'm not sure why fatties just leap up off the couch one day and decide to try and lose quick by getting super strict but every single diet/exercise program that's decent says to check with your doctor first.
That said, something doesn't have to be sustainable long term if it works meantime and then they go on to something reasonable and don't regress to their old ways. If they are reasonably healthy, they can fast some and their weight + lack of endurance at first is going to restrict the amount of cardio intensity they can put in.

Let them starve and flail about a while, it won't really hurt anything.

>>40585381
Why would you need to weigh any food? It doesn't make any sense.
Chicken says how much it weighs on the package. Simply divide it up in to even portions and do the math.
The +/- 50 calories really isn't going to matter.

>>40583207
Stop purging. Nothing else you do is going to help you until you can get it under control. I'd do small strict calorie-controlled meals rather than one meal with IF, one big meal feels a lot like a binge to some people where 4 smaller meals may not. It depends what's triggering you.

>>40585639
Carls jr turkey burger is 500 calories.
Homemade turkey burger, or lean beef, can be about the same but bigger meat.

You can fit burgers in your diet.

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>>40585839
>>40585839

This is my most recent progress pic

>>40585890
Fresh fruits, fresh veg, grains, serving sizes of sauces, dressings, portion size/weight vs just eyeballing it, lots of reasons to weigh and measure. Many people are surprised how inaccurate their estimating can be, others are better at it.

People crying about it, well then don't do it. But if your weight loss stalls, that's the first thing to suspect, inaccurate calorie counting and over-estimating portion sizes.

>>40585938
>Having to measure fruit/veggies
They're so low calorie and you can literally just select the largest calorie sizing on myfitnesspal for fruits (apples, bananas, etc)
Grain you can use a measuring cup.
Who the fuck measures sauces or even uses so much sauce it'll make a different

Measuring food is autistic unless you're already a low weight trying to bulk a very specific amount in very slowly, or even cut to a really low bf% (body builders and so on).
If you're unsure ALWAYS overestimate how much you're eating.

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>>40585929
>stretchers
your weight was not the only mistake you made

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>tfw just discovered white wine vinegar as a salad or anything else dressing
>fucking everything tastes great
>0cals

anyone else running keto? I got into it 3 months ago and I'm down like 20 lbs from 200, shit is pretty great. I feel a lot more energized but idk if that's a placebo or supposed to happen

>>40585919
Cool, thanks for the tip!

>>40585131
They're not accurate anon.
Also your body fluctuates as this video shows

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYMNPP2ZR1U

>>40586146
>placebo
Does it matter? You lost 20lbs and feel good

Pretty sure msot of us here don't do keto, just low carb. The problem with keto is that one beer or one piece of bread and you'e fucked for days.

>>40585975
Dried fruits are full of calories, so are even smaller quantities of most nuts and seeds, and fatties are notorious for drowning things in sauces and flooding salads in dressings. If counting calories and especially carbs, weighing helps.

As I said, those who don't want to measure or weigh that much, well just don't. No one cares if you don't want to do why the fuss?
I like to so I do. I still over-estimate some things sometimes so weighing helps me stay on track,

>>40586344
Almonds are 7 calories each, that's not so bad.

Dried fruits are basically sweets, though, that's true.

I'm trying blueberries, raspberries, bananas and apples for satisfying that sweet tooth.

>>40586344
>Dried fruits are full of calories
And usually come pre-measured (bagged) or you can measure by cup.
Who the fuck buys calorie dense candy food when you're on a cut.

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Where does /fat/ get their recipes?

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>>40585256
Sorry, i dont bother with village people trash

>>40584770
forgive me for dragging politics off /pol/, i know there's a special place in hell for me. but what is the worst part of his presidency then?

>>40584532
how much was your starting weight?

>>40586389
"Well if I can't have candy, I'll just have a "handful" of dried fruit on my salads, and some nuts because they are full of protein, because salads are healthy, right?"
Then dumps a ton of dried cranberries and pecans on and covers it in creamy or oily dressing.

Who has NOT seen this behavior? They can't be trusted to estimate.
But don't just take my word, the first thing a fatty going to a dietician gets on their list is a scale.

>>40586527
>what is the worst part of his presidency then?
Found the drumfplet who lives in another reality

>>40586106
quinoa and white wine vinegar is REALLY good. you should try it

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>>40581951
>How's that cut going

not good. i was stuck in a plateau for 2 months and decided to do a "re-feed" for two weeks.

Now i'm 7 pounds heavier than I was at the start of the plateau.

How many calories in a chocolate crepe? Google says something retarded like 200 calories per serving

>>40586106
Red wine, champagne and all types of balsamic vinegars are delish too. They mix with a bit of mustard and some plain Greek yoghurt and spices to make a kick ass creamy vinaigrette dressing too. I've ditched creamy dressings for this instead.

>>40584532
AIDS?

>>40586802
140 if regular chocolate-filled crepe.
I checked several calorie counters.

>>40586678
I'm asking a simple question and you have yet to answer it.

>>40586802
Depends on size of crepe and how much chocolate's in it.

>>40586862
Because no one wants to talk politics here when we would rather speculate on the chocolate crepes we shouldn't be eating? Please take this off the board, it's off topic and you know it.

>>40585852
Fatties lack discipline so when they become motivated the first thing they try to do is exert as much will power as they can in order to establish a new baseline in life. They don't realize that progress is slow and cumulative (or maybe they do, but they are impassioned and perhaps even desperate) so they strive to bring order to their chaotic lifestyle.

>>40586885
thank you for a regular response without being so condescending, though i see that you, assuming you're the same anon who brought politics into this in the first place, dodged the question.

>>40587111
I'm not the OP of any of the political posts, I just spoke up hoping y'all will hush about it.


So...what did you eat today, everyone?
I got Taco Bell but 2 tacos and 2 tostadas and a diet drink comes in at under 1000 so not completely disastrous. I've been very good about cutting out sugary stuff of any kind so I'm still losing despite occasional binges like this.

>>40585663
Another meal prepper here, I do meat in the fridge no more than 4 days, fish 2. If I make more meat, I freeze it.
You see prepared stuff in the store sit longer than 4 days but it's full of preservatives too. I'd rather not risk it. 5 day old chicken isn't that tasty either.

>>40586664
Those are called retards. How is that a far comparison?
If you've been counting calories for some time why the fuck would you suddenly do that, that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard.

This isn't tumblr.

Not logging lifting or cardio into calorie counters like MFP is the norm, right? I feel like MFP overestimates by quite a bit.

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So by May 27th, if I follow this, I'll be down to my goal weight.

http://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php
if you wanna make your own goal schedule

>>40587196
That's a fairly good example of fatlogic from a fatty as beginner dieter.
Dude if you don't like scales, just don't use one. No need to sperg out like a hostile shitlord if someone else wants to use one. They are helpful tools for some people, can you get it? I don't prefer kettlebells. But others use them to good effect. Same kind of thing.

I use a scale. Why? Because fuck you.
/topic

>>40587323
As a beginner you don't even need to use a scale to lose weight.
You could literally just eat better and workout and the first 20lbs should fly off.

>>40587328
And if this were true for more people we'd see it happening more often. Look, no one "needs" a food scale or many of other specialty items but I'm not going to ever discourage someone from using a tool that has proved helpful to many people.

Do you fuss this much about certain fitness equipment, workout clothes, a non-stick grill pan or other things people find useful? That's literally how silly this arguing against a scale is.

>>40587237
MFP frequently underestimates, especially with portion sizes. Which is devastating when you find out.

>>40586799
Go for a run tomorrow and reduce your calorie intake even further. At least 200kcal. And like the thread has been saying, start weighing shit.

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>>40587257
>3 months until my goal weight if I never slip up once
T-this be easy, r-right guys? Forgive the phonepost

>>40587460
>womanlet

when will they learn?

>>40587468
I-I'm a guy and 6'2 ;-;

>>40587472
Oh.

Your non-burger units had me confused for a second.

Ever since a new chain store opener close to my home i am fucking addicted to nutella (off brand, different flavors) i need help, not only i eat one of those every two days, i also never go to the gym because i have social anxiaty and the only time the gym is empty is at the morning so i REALLY need to stop eating it, please help

>>40587422
>Look, no one "needs" a food scale
Correct.

>>40587486
>/fat/ please make me stop buying Nutella
jesus christ you are never going to make it. Take some responsibility for yourself, fatass. The gym anxiety one is understandable but once you push past that a few times it won't matter anymore.

>>40587257
>>40587460
Those calorie deficits are pretty large.

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Hey guys, second day posting. Still keeping on it. Feeling a little weird about a meal I ate today. Loaded up with fat and hardly any greens. I need to keep tweaking this thing. I only ate half of it but I feel like it's not exactly healthy just because it's keto. If I'd eaten the whole place (glad I didn't) it would have come out to 700 calories. More than half I'm taking in a day.

My stats:
>gender:
female
>height
5'4"
>starting weight
171 lbs
>current weight
165 lbs
>goal weight
115 lbs

How's everyone else doing today?

>>40587439
This. I do not trust mfp for some things so I cross-check calories much of the time.

I'm not sure if any other app or site is more accurate or if I should just enter my own frequent food basics so I know they are correct. Suggestions, anyone?

I don't use their exercise tracker because of the dumb 'you've earned more calories' thing.

>>40587537
The first guy is on 1000kcal a day and will probably break, but the second is on 1500 which is standard, and losing 1kg per week is a very sustainable goal, no?

>>40587486
Stop buying it. Count your calories and eat healthy things.
Do calisthenics at home. Keep trying at the gym, you may become used to it and be able to go more.

>>40587553
Amazing meal would wife/10

Out of curiosity though, do you ever get jelly of the fat guys who can lose weight by cutting on 2500-3000cal? 1400 must be a pain in the ass

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>>40587582
>scan barcode for tuna/mushrooms/literally half the food out there
>fucking Trader Joes Milk comes up
>mfw
every fucking week

>>40587601
Either can work if they can maintain it. 1500 is hard if the deficit is that big at first though. Also most people overestimate their exercise in these, especially at the beginning when fatties can't really do what normally counts as moderate or harder exercise until they get some stamina built up. Light to Moderate is equal to 3x/week of at least 30 minutes sustained exercise in your target heart rate range.

>>40587620
Aw, thanks! It came out pretty but, I assure you, it's very high in fat. I did not shy away from calories being so focused on carbs and what I was allowed to eat. Still seems like my little fatty ways, you know?
I'm actually doing 1200 a day. I suppose I'm jealous, but not really. Maybe when I feel like being a fatty, but I appreciate having to do more, having to cut lower, having to be a lady about what I eat. I haven't been much of a lady, getting all fat like this. I've been drinking beers after work, going hard on food, not really working out. I've been bad, and I don't want to be anymore. It's cool that you guys can eat more, but I'm not coming from that place, and never have and never will. It's not for me to eat like that.

I'll have you guys check your privilege on that peeing standing up thing any day, though! So lucky. Hiking is when I care about it. We have to get down low every time! Sure, there are devises, but come on, check it. That's a pretty neat feature! lol

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>nice deficit, kiddo
>would be a real shame if something happened to it

>>40585975
>t.230 pounds

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>>40587654
I jog and probably exceed the "light exercise" that I used actually, but here is the "couch potato" option for the slow route. An extra 6 weeks would be a nightmare, thanks for making me check. Gonna run twice as fucking hard now.

>>40587680
>not using a she-pee for them penis-envy gains
not going to make it

>>40587721
I've already recovered from being a fatass. I'm slow bulking now.

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>>40587695
>*teleports behind you*
>weighs out exactly 200g on my japanese imported food scale
>puts in ziplock bag and boils to remove all the calories
>check MFP, apparently my farting is so violent it counts as a step
>I've earned 300 calories through "steps" today
heh, nothing personnel, kiddo

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just ate 4000 calories worth of burger king

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>>40585509

Anyone have a lack of energy after cutting their diet to sub 2000 calories?

>>40583481
>Amerifags
>multipying weight by 2.2 to make themselves feel better

>>40581951
>recovering alcoholic
>broke the streak
> 4th day drunk, im so happy
what the fuck am i doing with my life?

>>40588013
also tfw when wife thinks im on some business trip

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The other side of the 'healthy food is more expensive' meme.

>>40587995
Yep, it passes. Keep with it. Caffeine is OK.

>>40588068
tfw I can get chicken cheap at my local grocery store

It's a fun meme.

Current: 93-94kg.
Start:108kg
Goal: sub 85kg.

Making a push to get just under 90 by the end of the month.

Let a few bad diet habits creep back into my life at end of Feb and I stalled progress, so I'm going for a big push.

Currently day 3 (first 2 days were practice) fuark my energy levels and mood are rock bottom. I don't have any cravings, just lethargic at work and bored talking to people.

Day 3 of no fap too.

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6 months 260 lbs to 188 lbs. First 4 months I didn't diet hardcore but did cut out shit and clean up diet. Last 2 months have been hardcore diet, training, cardio. Am I going to make it for the summer brahs? :O

>>40588068
That's the most expensive pizza I've ever seen, cost €6 for a large pizza here.

>>40588362
Most large pizzas here from a fastfood place are in the 8-12€ range, in a nice restaurant you pay 15-30€ for a pizza.

>>40588068
From Dominos site:
That exact pizza is $18.75 before tax in my US flyover state. Add breadsticks $4.99, tax and my total for carry out is $26.23

I'm a little surprised it's so expensive but I did want to verify since I never eat at Dominos.

>>40581951
anyone else /bingeeatingdisorder/ here? any tips to ward off the binges? has anyone beaten it? is it really just a matter of not binging for long enough or do you still do it in a controlled manner?

>>40588528
I've been bulimic, and it is kinda the same thing where I would binge because I craved it. I eventually stopped throwing up and that's how I gained weight.

I don't know how to stop the desires. I have them right now. I only know that it takes will to prevent them. Smaller meals, controlling everything strictly. The opposite of the loss of control that is a binge.

I wish you luck anon. I wish I could help.

>>40588528
Yes! I started eating enough, stopped restricting carbs, and started lifting. Now I eat more for performance rather than to fill the void dieting leaves me with.

>>40588528
yea i used to be a really bad binge eater.

after close to a year of dieting my stomach has definitely shrunk or something. I can't eat nearly as much as I used to so I can't binge eat in one sitting.

>>40585800
Ice cold showers for 30 days. It will absolutley improve your will power. Google it.

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>>40584314
>the issue i have with lifting is the risk of injury is just too high

Thinking that weight training is particularly dangerous is commonly held belief but it's mistaken. Weight training is among the safest activities you can take part in. Cultural attitudes probably cause this bias toward popular sports.

http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/1109123/24483296/1394376978483/Relative+Safety+of+Weightlifting+and+Weight+Training.pdf

http://product-injuries.healthgrove.com/l/173/Weight-Lifting

>It is so important to do everything with correct form

I think this applies to any other sports too. Even jogging has technique than you can fuck up and cause unnecessary injury to yourself. The internet is full of basic instructions on how to do weight lifting movements. You don't need to be perfect to be safe. Safe technique is easy. Perfecting your technique is so you can maximize performance for competition or just because you have an autistic desire for optimizing.

>>40588276
keep it up familia

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For people struggling with hunger.

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Happ bed today
>be like you don't have
>sit down with a little bit of a problem with your blood
>start with the British
>keep going out with the British
>British won't stop being dead
>shit
>panic
>decided that the British weren't even worth the risk
>drop the British
<suddenly I'm going with my sister to get a new boyfriend because she is always there for me
>wake up to the British government on the bench
>"do you think you can get the same name as you are not sure if you're the British?"
>hospital says I'm sorry for being so fat, now I have to do community service for the next two years

Never fuck UP gym days

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>>40581951
I am 191 and 135 kg. No completely without my fair share of muscle. But I need to drop get down to ~100.

I am not big on tracking calories nor willing to waste a lot of money on hitting my protein goals. But I was wondering whether I could loose weight without doing so, and what are the best ways to suppress my hunger? I get especially sad when I am on the second day of my diet. Please I need some advice. Also how long would it take and what should my exercise regime look like.

Also I think I'm at the border between obese and overweight. So could I probably shed the first 10 kg pretty quickly?

>>40588276

How did you lose that much in 6 months? How many calories did you eat daily?

t. cutting anon that's currently ~260

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>>40581951
Hi /fatgen/. Newbie here. 110~ kg ( 242 lbs ) weight is fluctuating.

Was it a stupid decision to buy a liquid fat burner (AMIX CarniLean), because I've never seen you guys talk about those ?

>>40588276
Did you lift?

Any 300 pound mammoths here?

I'm 292. Kind of slowing down my metabolism and I've been stuck on it for a few weeks now. A little worried, but maybe I should revise my diet and structure my workout a bit.

>>40589235
Yes throw it out the window. If you want to know actual things that work (and aren't mostly feel good stuff), read the sticky.

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Anyone here have bad stretch marks?

I'm ashamed of ever taking my shirt off.

>>40589079
Thank you.

>>40589079
While not a bad concept, this really borders on the feelgood side of things. Maybe if there were a few facts in there to prevent people taking this too literally.

>Are you willing to eat fruit and veggies?
>Great! Go Ahead!
>Load Em' Up!
>Eat 6 bananas because it's healthy and fruit doesn't have that much calories right?
>600 calories
>alrightythen.jpg
>Keep up the good work! Don't give up, you can do it! Great! Good! Dance to favorite song!
>Yeah not a grill so kinda a bit too cutesy for me

>>40584851
move more

>>40584851
eat less

>>40589016
i have actually read the study you got this picture from. The issue with the study are:
1) the injures are self-reported
2) the time spent is self-reported
3) they only asked teenagers
4) a lot of weightlifting injuries are permanent compared to breaking a bone or bruising
5) a lot of weightlifitng injuries are gained early but only manifest itself later

>>40589134
If you don't track your calories then how will you know that you are eating less than you expend every day?
We'd all like to just eat a little less, say 'fuck macros' and have someone design us a custom and effective exercise plan for free but things just don't work that way.

Tl:dr
Fuck off and read the sticky and do what it says.
If you can't be bothered to do the bare basics, no one can be bothered to help you.

>>40589427
If it said "non-starchy fruits and veggies" and didn't have the cuteness it might be better, you are right.

i'm seriously thinking not sleeping enough is slowing down my weight loss. I'm 250 pounds, puts me at 2600 or so tdee on a sedentary level. which i'm not. woman is keeping me up till 11:50 a lot of nights and I'm not going to bed early as I should and I wake up at 5:45. i don't want to piss her off, but i need to keep losing weight. part of it is i tend to grab something shitty out of the freezer like macadamia nuts after she leaves. ;_;

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:(

If I drink alcohol but still stay within my calorie goals is it really an issue?

I've already cut out caffeine, soda, and junk snacks but dropping alcohol would just kind of suck.

>>40589884
Nice gyno, fag

>>40589919
Why the fuck would you cut out caffeine instead of alcohol? Caffeine actively aids you in weight loss

>>40589919
>if I'm so much of an alcoholic that I can't even give up drinking to lose weight is it really an issue?

>>40590059

I was sleeping really poorly and tried it for a month as an experiment.

It worked. So I haven't gone back

>>40589884
what is that site/app?

>>40590071

Not really trying to justify it. I know it's bad, but that's where I'm at now. Just looking to see what people say.

>>40585975
>already own a electronic scale for baking
>it sits next to my cutting board
>weigh stuff as I go and keep it in my mind for when I log it.
why you mad dude lol

>>40590139
Literally pointless friendo, unless it's a new recipe.

>>40590120
Yes. It is really an issue. You're killing your liver, and it's impossible to build muscle if you're cutting AND your diet is 50% alcohol.

drinking one or two beers a week isn't going to curb any major progress.

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>>40590150
Sure I do new recipes/variations on standard ones all the time.

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>>40590183
i started at 430 pounds man. i'm never going to be zyzz. and i have to live with that. but i have a qt pie 130 pounds gf and we like to go have fun dinners once a week. i'm gonna enjoy a cider or something light when i go. 400 calories worked into my diet a week isn't going to mess anything up. i'd rather have a beer, than go back to being my un-social self who shunned beer.

>>40588068
For 20 bucks I can get 3 medium pizzas for 5.99 each from Domino's

>>40590197
>i'm never going to be zyzz.

You're certainly never gonna make it with that attitude, that's for sure.

>>40588068
>Tilapia
Nobody eats fucking fish, 90% of the world's population is repulsed by it.

>>40583419
So, you like it when dudes wrap their dicks on your neckbeard?

I'm 460 lbs, 6'5". can someone help me figure out the bare minimum of calories per day for weightloss? I'm curious if eating too little is not optimal.

>>40589397
I got a bunch around my stomach from being fat and a bunch around my back/arms/shoulders from growing so tall/putting on muscle.

I don't mind em at all desu, it's my terrible fucking gyno that makes me feel like shit.

>>40585929
Looks good brah

>>40590438
Read the sticky.

>>40590066
fucking lol

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>tfw i gained 30 pounds in 3 years
>tfw i used to be self conscious about my weight, walking and watching what i eat, walking around my neighborhood block for exercise or heading to the gym

I fucked up so badly.... i really can't believe i lost my hard work and dedication and let it get to me.... I have to accept reality that i gained 30 pounds and i have to work hard and eat less. The doctor says that 180 or 170 is a good weight for me due to me being a 5'6 kms manlet so there's work that needs to be done.

I'm really tired of playing games with myself.... all thus LDR relationships problems and cheating in iti had, school and just being alone really fucked me up... I really don't want to be a fat sack piece of shit, fat acceptance whale lord .

This isn't me. I cannot accept this. I'm determined. I'm done for who i was.

I have faith in myself and in the Lord. I will lose weight and get my fat sack back into shape.

We are all going to make it bros. Die trying.

>>40590076
Symmetric Strength.

I weighed 164,2lbs/74,5kg this morning, my lowest ever, down from 240lbs/108kg in August, 2015. Feels breddy good, mane.

2 questions:

1. How can I tell if i'm losing fat or muscle?

2. I've lost 90 ish pounds in a year without counting calories. I'm having a harder time now that I'm under 200 lb's. is it possible to continue to lose weight without counting calories? (i've been making rough estimates entire way, don't have much time to actually weigh food out)

>>40590768
Lift often enough to make sure your lifts aren't decreasing. If you're losing weight then, it's pretty sure to be fat. That's what I do, eat little, lift often enough to maintain strength, and that's good enough.

>>40581975
5 times in week, program stronglift combined with cardio. I cut already a 12 pounds in 1,5 month but this is still beginning.

/fat/bros please help me.

I've been eating right and liftan.

I'm lifting more every week. I'm losing weight according to the scale.

But I'm still just an ugly, unlovable fat piece of shit.

I don't think I'm gonna make it. Help me please.

Please.

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>>40590907
>ugly
>unloveable

Gotta gets it through your head that if someone is shallow enough to judge you on looks alone they're not worth your time.

If I'm friends with the most handsome motherfucker out there and he pretends to like me do you think it's worth it? No. If I'm friends with some fat ugly dude that always had my back and talks with me like his equal who I can relate to and be bros with, you bet your ass it'll stick.

Now then again with girls, that's literally all they are... especially with dating sites which are a waste of fucking time, so good luck with them.

>>40590931
It's not even about girls. I have friends and I think I'm a good person, I'm super nice but I just feel like I'm alone.

Like I said I'm liftan and I've made progress but don't feel like I've made "progress" if that makes sense. I just don't know what to do anymore.

>mum wants to just do a takeaway tonight
>ask if they do anything even remotely healthy
>mum looks at me, annoyed
>check the menu, see chicken breast
>ask for that, and then say to not get me any chips though
>mum gives a massive sigh
>"you know you can have treats and stuff even if youre dieting"

not if i want to stick to it you fat fuck

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>>40590949
How old are you?

Just how fat are you?

Do you and your friends actually talk often? you call them your friends but if you're truly close to them how come you feel "alone"?

By progress if you mean that on a personal level then all I can tell you is this; Try doing things you don't normally do, and let them become a part of who you are in order to make a change. If you're not willing to go through with the physical you can't hope to change your mental state.

>family weight-loss contest
>im the only one overweight (240lbs)
>weigh-ins every sunday night
send help im gonna lose this

>>40590964
I'm 26 and finally down to 225. I have a ton of friends but they all essentially equate to drinking buddies. We all hang out and have fun together but there's nobody I can say I'm close with or confide to.

I just thought I'd be better off by now. Changing physically is actually easy. It's my mental state that needs work I guess.

>>40590907
you'll always feel this way, enjoy sitting in this eternal void, at least thats how I feel.

Its better to be fit, in shape and ugly than fat and ugly.

If it makes you feel any better I'm sure im hella ugly but i've somehow managed to bang some really hot chicks in my life.

I'm a 5'5 19 y.o. grill with around 140-145 pounds on me
>broad shoulders
>no boobs
>thick thighs
>weird butt that is kinda flat when sideways, but really full from behind
>what is that even

The broad shoulders tho. I feel like in order for it to look good you need to be really fit or super skinny, so I'm trying to lose weight. Down from 200 lbs. Anyone else similar?

>>40591017
Pics, I don't get what you mean by it being flat and full at the same time?

lets say I have really bad diarrhea where everything I eat goes out in 1-2 hours max, do calories even count? its been 2 days ive been eating a lot and am leaner
yes there are some downsides like stomach aches, diarrhea and not being able to sleep

>>40591007
>we all hang out and have fun together but there's nobody I can say I'm close with or confide to.

Looks like none of them fall into the category of "best friend", and I'm kind of sorry about that.

I'm actually very good friends with one particular fella and we always reach out to one another when the shit hits the fan. There are some truly good people out there but in my case, I got lucky to find someone that real.

You're less fat than me already, and to be honest at that age I'm sure there's door still open for you. I'm not an advice connoisseur but in my opinion, if you're feeling like shit, I can tell you that I could relate. Sometimes in the past, I've had those moments where I feel terrible because nothing works out.

My brother who has autism kept eating all the food in the fridge and since we've never had a father in our lives to teach us how to behave, we've never really had that sense of support or guidance, and our mother who spoils him rotten always gives in to his ridiculous demands no matter how many times I implore her to fix her shit "raising" him, she never once truly ever did her job right with us, because of that I had to mostly raise myself which lead to me making some very poor decisions growing up and causing me to learn everything the hard way. Even now my brother is obese and my mother keeps us poor with the amount of food she buys to sate his disgusting lifestyle. I'm thinking of moving out at some point because it's just too much to bear sometimes but we've all got our problems, and it's our mission to learn to deal with them our own way.

Just know you'll be alright as long as you keep moving forward and that there are other people out there who have it worse than you. You can deal with it knowing that there's still hope.

>>40591017
Youre probably exaggerating and are getting caught up in stupid dysmorphic shit. Like guys, with our muh insertions and muh long femurs.

Lifting and doing some cardio and getting fit will literally improve everything.

>>40590438
eating too little results in binging, you gotta find the magic number if you want to do a +50% deficit, when i started at 330 lbs mine was 1200-1300 and i was eating on a 6 hour window (look up intermittent fasting) so try maybe 1600-1700 just so you don't feel like killing yourself everyday

>>40583309
mike is that you

Anyone else suffer from "severely obese family members"?

My brother is probably around 450 lbs, and his life is horrible, he doesn't have any friends, cant speak properly, and even tried to kill himself last year, my parents try so hard to take "care" of him, yet still buy shit food everyday for him to feast on. OH and he's a 25 y/old neet

The hardest part (which i'm sure all of you ex-fatties know) is that you can't really help someone to lose weight, they have to really want it and be commited to do it long term, and he's the opposite of that, i feel like he has just given up.

shit sucks man

>>40591131
>have brother with autism and obesity
>have mother who feeds his lifestyle
>have family that ridicules us all the time
>want to lose weight
>mother refuses to buy healthier foods because it will upset my brother
>barely make enough to buy my own monthly diet
>either I buy food for the entire month and see it gone like a flash or spend it on other things
>want to move out
>no luck with full-time positions
>mother threatens to disown me if I move out
>ask help from friends
>they're all in uni studying for their careers
>either I get 2 part time jobs and have no life or I kill myself

So far I'm really starting to appreciate being born into this world with no father, a brother with a severe mental disability and a mother who refuses to teach us, guide us or even truly love us enough to make important changes like at the very fucking least eating healthier.

She'll waste over a thousand on food every month because he won't stop eating and she'll smile about it.

I hate my fucking life. But I'm betting on the future where I move out with a friend and get my shit together without having to worry about being held down any longer.

things i learned from meal prepping today is that my kitchen is too small to cook for a week reasonably. Probably can only prep for 3-4 days at once. Maybe it would be more doable if i buy a small table in the size of an ironing board for me to store plates and stuff.

>>40591151
talk to your parents dude. suicide shouldnt be taken lightly

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>>40591178
>talk to your parents
>I didn't read your post, though.

You made my day, thanks.

>>40591163
So i used to work as a prep cook and they gave me the tiniest table to work on. it was the size of your average desk with one side having a GIANT ASS meat slicer on it (Absolute bitch to clean and no one ever cleaned it if they used it so since it was on my station i had to clean it constantly. sucked.) anyway i just learned to balance the space. Sometimes an extra table (a small cart in my case) was needed but mostly I just learned to balance items on top of one another and how to balance my work into stuff that could share space easily (such as no cross contamination problems, so meat cutting I always did all at once and right after I did the cooking of raw meat since the whole counter needed to be cleaned anyway so I could cut vegetables next). Learning to prioritize like this will help. Im about to do mealprep tomorrow (Just went out and bought tons of pyrex so theres no going back) and I've just balanced it out on paper, doing things by whether or not theyre raw, cooked on the stove or in the oven, cook time and temperatures etc (Last is important for any oven cooking).

You can also split the work up between two days instead. Two days of cooking is still less than cookng every day.

>>40591211
the space i have available is smaller than an average desk, its enough to fit my cutting board and 2 tables.

>>40591258
not tables, i meant plates

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>>40581951
I've lost 20 lbs since January. Ask me anything.

>1st week lose like 3kg
>2nd week nothing

>>40591473
Water weight can fuck with the scales, even if you're losing fat. Cut a little harder, do a little more exercise, and next week you'll see progress for both weeks.

>>40591564
i tried to avoid eating much salt yesterday like the last time i tried to weight myself though

>>40585929
>that guy who wears basketball shorts to the gym

>>40591880
I prefer tights, makes the dick more visible :3

Former /fat/ person here, i just saw this and wanted to tell you all: You're not going to make it.

You're all too autistic about exact calories and time spent working out. I used to be 200lbs+ and i'm not a big guy, i just lost it by cutting out sugar entirely and eating right. And i do mean eating right, if you exercise for 2hrs a day it's not going to mean anything if your calories for the day consist of a couple fucking pancakes or oreos or whatever, my sister does that, and she had to go to the hospital once because her bone structure was so weak, she had extreme vitamin and mineral deficiency. What you guys do is pathetic. Just exercise a ton and eat better, the method of not eating at all is for weak minded girls.

>>40591950
>t. I used to be 200lbs
>200lbs
>implying that is much

>>40589460
thats why I was asking if I'll lower my calories

>>40591950
Is this a meta-inspirational post for people to never be as retarded as you claim to be?

>Nearly had a successful cut yesterday
>Hit all my 1400cal and no more, felt good
>Then my mother came home and brought home fast food despite my specific request for her not to do so
>Tried telling her I didn't want to eat this and that I asked her not to buy anything
>She then guilt trips me ala "okay just throw it away then you know I love wasting money"
>Ended up eating some shitty fast food and fucking up my cut
>Blame is not all on her though as subconsciously I wanted to eat that shitty burger too
I'm never gonna make it lads.

>>40583105
>acid sandwich is only 1pl8

>>40589243
I use to lift couple years ago then lost it al became a fat fuck. So I already have a basic understanding of training and nutrition and what personally works for me

>>40589523
>1) the injures are self-reported
>2) the time spent is self-reported

The other link i provided had data based on hospital records which showed the same kind of trend with weight lifting at the bottom of causes for hospital visits. I think the trend is real and not a mistake of data collection. Also, the difference between weight training and other activities was very large. Do you think the data would be massively different if it weren't self-reported?

>3) they only asked teenagers
I think adults would show similar data. The study shows a humoungous difference in injury rate for weight training in comparison to other sports. The difference would change some with data on adults. But I think it's very unlikely that adults would have a complete different distribution of injuries because how exactly does the activity change when done by adults? Soccer and other ball games are played the same way. Do you think adults perform entirely different movements in the gym compared to teenagers? I think both like the bench press and half-squat if they squat at all.

>4) a lot of weightlifting injuries are permanent compared to breaking a bone or bruising

Why would sports injuries be any less permanent? Sprains and tears are the most common injury in everything, not just weight training and they can cause permanent change in mobility just as well wherever they happen. I don't think sports injuries are any less likely to be permanent. Casual soccer players tear their ACLs too though likely not as much as competitive athletes. Broken bones are pretty serious in my opinion.

>5) a lot of weightlifitng injuries are gained early but only manifest itself later

Is this a particularly bad kind of injury? An injury that is immediately painful and debilitating seems more serious to me than one that you notice later.

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I am pic related. 5'10" at roughly 215-220 pounds (I don't have a scale, this is what I was last year).

My grandfather died at the end of 2015 due to medicine that was for his weight caused health issues. I am the spitting image of him, and don't want to follow his path.

I reduced my diet to 1800 calories a day, with little to no processed foods. I plan to join a gym but I don't know what I should do. I want to go down to 170 lbs or so, and don't care much for muscles but if they are required I'll do it.

Any advice? Will I make it?

>>40592608
Fuck my phone rotated my picture. This is why I hate phone posting.

>>40592608
Only you and your determination decides if you make it. You look like you're heavier than 220 pounds though, maybe 230-40.

Scrap processed foods entirely, don't drink anything apart from water/coffee/tea, and *actually* stick to 1800 calories, realise you're going to have to reduce that to 1500 after a few months, and actually go exercise. Cardio every second day, lifting on the other. If you actually stick to this, you'll make it. If you post here occasionally to feel good about yourself while giving in to pizza cravings, you won't.

http://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php
Make this for yourself, ensure you actually reach your targets, read the sticky. Do exercise whenever you can, even if it's just going for a walk. And post here with your stats once a week to give yourself motivation to improve and not look like another retard who comes by, diets for a week, and then fucks off back to obesityville.

>sit down at my desk
>wait a minute, something is off
>realise i can fit in it without my fat touching the armrests

were all gonna make it lads

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>>40592833
It's that time again.
Post your happy feels, /fat/

>>40592608
>I plan to join a gym but I don't know what I should do.

Pick some beginner program. Read stuff and watch videos on safe technique in the movements you will do. On your first day, check out where you will be doing your movements in the gym and just practice doing each movement enough to find out what your starting weight will be in them. Next time you start doing your program.

>don't care much for muscles but if they are required I'll do it.

They are required if you have a desire to have a body that pleases your own aesthetic sense. If you really just care about losing weight for health and don't mind being skinny-fat at the end then it doesn't matter much. Losing muscle isn't healthy but you're not an old man who has trouble going up stairs so losing some muscle won't have much impact on your well-being right now. Being fit does feel good though. The feeling you get from being strong is different than what you get from increasing endurance. I think most people on /fit/ feel being strong is more fun than being able to run for a long time. You feel what you feel.

Doing strength training as you lose weight will probably even build you some more muscle as you're a beginner. But it's not too late to build muscle back after you've lost the weight either. Losing the muscle and building it back will just take more time. Do what makes the most sense to you.

>>40592919
>watching tv to learn a foreign language
>bored and a little hungry
>only thing within reach is my 99c basil plant
>start eating the leaves like chips
>delicious as fuark
>0cals
this is going to be a part of my life now

finally broke my 2 week plateau and weighed in at 89.6kg.
Just got back from roller skating at a skatepark followed by a gym session.
Shit's looking up, maybe we'll make it bro's.

>>40592958
Thank you. So there should be a preset workout or something at gym chains such as planet fitness?

>>40592790
>230-240
That makes me feel bad, but whatever. Thanks for the advise.

Another thing I noticed is that I had 3 plain eggs scrambled for breakfast today two hours ago, and have been drinking some water. Now I feel super hungry. I guess I should just hold off until lunch?

>>40593147
>So there should be a preset workout or something at gym chains such as planet fitness?

No, you search the internet or /fit/ for one. Don't ask PTs for programs as they'll give you something useless which would feel about right to clueless people who first arrive at the gym and then start thinking about what they're actually supposed to do there and don't want to do anything too hard. Especially at a place like planet fitness where the vast majority of customers are there to feel good about being there without making any progress.

>>40591950

Translation:
Self identified tard here and I feel the need to insert my opinion.

I did something that doesn't work for most people but since it worked for me, other methods are shit and I'm going to tell you so even though I'm talking out of my ass and still hanging out in fatty general after I totes made it and am a former fat, guize.

Do ketosis bros


Third day of eating nothing but 1400 calories worth of fatty meat and vegetables and I am barely hungry

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Don't forget to track your progress from the start. Weigh, measure yourself, take photos (even if you never show them, you'll look at them and see how far you've come) and yes, your BMI.

I think there is a calculator to estimate body fat percentage online as well.

>>40593716
BMI of 40+ is morbid obesity class or DEATHFAT.

Body fat percentage calculator.
Don't pussy out, take the measurements.
https://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/body-fat-percentage-calculator

A myotape is a cheap device to take accurate measurements with the same tape tension each time. Taking measurements will often show progress when weight loss on the scale has stalled.

>>40593651
Define fatty meats. Like steak?

>>40593812
Yeah steak, dark meat chicken, bacon, salmon

Lots of brocoli and carrots to stay under 25g carbs

190 cm, was 94 kg at the beginning of this month now down to 92. Still a long way to go but losing 2 kgs in a short amount of time, even if it's water weight, feels good.

My aim is about 83-85 kg, how long do you think would it realistically take?

>>40593831
http://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php

>>40593716
>Normal
I am not a cuck to norm faggot

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No progress pics? Heaviest was 230. Started cutting at 1800, recently began cutting at 1700.

Japanese have lowered the BMI numbers for their calculators.
Over 23 is overweight (another word for fat)
Over 25 is obese

http://bmicalc.org/japanese-bmi-calculator

>>40585798
>should have told your mom to fuck off.
or portioned it correctly and not pigged the fuck out

>>40590170
fat fuck

>>40590952
>he hasn't gotten his mum dieting correctly so shell be able to see and play with her grand-kids instead of being dead

why do you hate her anon?

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>>40591017
>kinda flat when sideways, but really full from behind


lose weight and start lift

>>40593983
Kinda illogical measurement for lifters

>>40594150
it always has been

>>40592919
5 days off processed sugar added to things and did not get bad symptoms like I feared. Still eating apples and berries and whatever residual sugar is in some items like marinara sauce and imitation crab but the sugar demon in the form of candy, desserts and added sugar is officially off my back.

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goin to the gym for a month now. working on the machines. i know free weight is better but i just dont wanna embarrass my self bench pressing an empty bar :/

any advice for the newbie?

>>40594230
> i just dont wanna embarrass my self bench pressing an empty bar
>any advice for the newbie?

Get used to doing what you want to do without caring about how it might look. You get embarrassed because you imagine how you look. Nobody is going to comment anything as they give you a passing glance in between their own workouts. It's just you being embarrassed by your own thoughts. Not that it's easy to stop having unwanted thoughts but you can begin by trying to not give them attention.

>>40593825
>Dark meat chicken and salmon

I think this might be the diet for me.

Though saying goodbye to bread and tortillas is sad.

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I've been stuck at 220-223 for the last 2 weeks without any progress.

I've also began lifiting weights 3 weeks ago, and I go to the gym 4 or 5 days a week. Is my progress plateauing because I'm gaining muscle, or am I doing something wrong? I'm really distraught :/


I initially started at 235

>>40594794
>>40594794
>>40594794
New thread

>>40582113

>>40594691
eat less to lose weight, drop your daily calorie intake a bit more.

>>40594691
Initial weight loss when lowering food intake is mostly from the reduction in the amount of fecal matter you carry around. And water possibly if your sodium intake went down as well. Both combined could be 15lbs for a person your size.

So, do what >>40595073 said. Your weight maintaining is an indicator that your calorie intake equals your expenditure. If you can be bothered to keep track of more things in addition to calories, try to keep your fiber and sodium intake at a constant so their effect on your weight stays constant (if they vary your weight varies too).

>>40584824
cycling does not do much for weight loss just so you know