/fraud/ steroids general

/degenerategeneral/

reminder: only degnerates cheat.

>>40592064
ok

>inb4 it dies 20 posts in cause most US frauders are not around at this time

not that I have much of worth to post either kek

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>chinese flintstone vitamins

Where to get tren from? Thanks

> tfw roiding manlet with acne, stretch marks and disproportionate lats struts round the gym smiling as everyone stares at him
> doesnt realize everyone is staring at what a state he is

>>40592253
>disproportionate lats
what did he mean by this

>tfw depressed

>>40592261
Looking like an insecure kite

LOL was alex banned for just being a faggot?

>>40592253
>>40592265

>hes bigger than me so he must be insecure

>>40592315
Insecure because he's so inconfident in his appearance he takes to serious chemical crutches to change it

>>40592315
>manlet
>bigger than anyone

>>40592253
Dont forget the hairline, bald manlets

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>>40592335
At least he doesn't complain about it on the internet because his masculinity is threatened by a manlet of all things.

>>40592343
Now you see the first guy's predicament. He's smaller than a manlet.

>>40592373
>sees retard shitting and pissing himself in real life
>ahaha guys guess what i just saw

>"HIS MASCULINITY IS THREATENED BY THAT RETARD"

>>40592382
Nobody goes online to talk shit on a retard who shat or pissed himself.

>>40592391
>what are tard stories

>>40592282
accidentally shilled something for lulz --> ban --> ban evasion + another ban x2 --> here we are

>>40592265
y u hatin on his cobramode aesthetics

What can i do to not look like shit unflexed?

Why not open an SHG (steroid hate general) and stop shitting up this thread? You should know by now that nobody really gets honestly triggered here so why try?

>inb4 all my h8 is just b8 m8
try harder then, not funny or worth a discussion

>>40592399
>>what are tard stories

fucking hilarious.

>>40592444
up the dose. and manage your glycogen and hydration better

>>40592444
cut

>>40592444
>unflexed

What?

>>40592444
>not flexing 24/7 (yes even while sleeping)

>>40592444
Stop frauding, thats the root of shitty aesthetics

Is it true that when on the juice you don't need rest days?

>>40592630
absolute bs, i have DOMS for 3 days even on a blast


>>40592451
>>40592452
>>40592476
>>40592489
yeah prolly just the water and glycogen

>>40592489
lmao

>>40592630
recovery and protein synthesis is improved, but you will not become a superhuman. 7 day splits are possible but hella retarded.

>three girls want to have a foursome
>I'm confused as hell
They constantly admire my muscles. How can I deal with three girls at once and make sure they all get a good time? Does it even matter?

Is 300 test enanthate a week for 20 weeks enough for first cycle or should i double it to 600?

Should I add an oral like dbol or tren ace?

Can I cruise on 50 prop EOD for a couple months afterwards instead of pct?

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>yfw most of /fraud/ doesn't even look like they roid

>>40592686
Tell them to organize coming over to yours and to bring enough food

>>40592691
Minimum 500 a week.
You can.
Yes.

>>40592670
DOMS is just inflammation. Doesn't mean shit.

Marathon runners get doms for example

While I know there is no source talk I just have a question about the mark up between online and real life sources. What is the typical price difference?

Also what bf% should you start at to minimise estro sides?

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Do i need a tan, faggots?

http://imgur.com/a/dka2R

>mfw i never trained legs

>>40592244
Eroids is good. It has sources broken down by country too. NB mods I'm not mentioning a source just an aggregator of sources

>>40592630
You don't need rest days as a natty. Just don't be retarded about volume and exercise selection

>>40592738
You look fine to me. Though, this is coming from a pale guy.

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Is it true that once I start injecting Test, I can't stop?
I've heard the following happens when you stop
>No / Heavily Reduced testosterone production
>Losing a large amount of the gains you got
>Potential Mantits

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>>40592738
>roiding for this

>>40592706
Probably because people's perceptions of why a roider looks like have been thrown way out of whack by all the 300lb 5% bodyfat pros on grams of test and HGH and slin

>>40592734
I buy muh test e at 30-35$ a vial online, never in person

Low low low so you can bulk and get good nutrient partitioning. Under 10% if you can manage it.

>>40592738

Please tan

>>40592738
Great chest. Back could use work, I can tell even from the front. Delts too.

i'm going for my first blood test to try and get trt. what's a low amount for a 28 year old male?

Is there a chart or something for what t levels are in young men? All I can find is 'average' ones, which include people from 17 up to 70 for fuck sake.

>>40592738
wouldnt hurt tbH, not to imply you would NEED it tho

>>40592748
>>No / Heavily Reduced testosterone production
>what is pct
>>Losing a large amount of the gains you got
>what is not roiding way past your natty limit
>>Potential Mantits
>what is AI

>>40592804
They only use that average. Yes it's stupid.

Unless you're consistently<300ng/dl good luck getting anything.

>>40592830
>pct
>Al
I am retarded and I am not aware of what these mean

>>40592686
Once they see your shrunken balls they'll just leave anyway

>>40592856
Ai stops oestrogen effects, pct is lifelong shit to counteract your fucked hormonal system

>>40592881
>lifelong
heh

>>40592856
post cycle therapy and aromatase inhibitors

ask me how i know you did not read the wiki mentioned in the OP

>>40592253
>better be a skinny dyel manlet rather than a trapezoid one.
we just cant win can we. might as well get as big as fuck cant do shit about my height and i sure as fuck dont want to be a weak DYEL manlet.

>>40592847
for some docs the cutoff is even lower, like 200 or less

t. got denied trt having 225 lel

>>40592738
how the fuck do you have no abs?

>>40592738
Your face looks bloated as fuck dude.

>>40592749
i didnt even finish my very first blast so whatever.

>>40592761
hmm

>>40592775
check the updated link http://imgur.com/a/dka2R

i store alot of fat in my back so its not really shredded, but i think it doesnt look too bad and decent enough proportions.
Delts grew the most so far, but again im not even finish with my first blast.
Defo not neglecting any muscle groups tho (except legs).

>>40592932
because im not shredded and store alot of water? im not going to cut on a blast

>>40592940
yes

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>>40592940
its shredded otherwise

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>>40592964
>>40592979
>>40593019
>defo not neglecting any muscle groups tho (except legs)

switched from 2xlegs/wk to adding another upper push day myself and fucking loving it

legs are a meme

>semi-related

this is the result of shaving ONE FUCKING THIGH kek, maybe you were right about dem dere lasers

>>40592964
You look good man ignore the meanposters. I'd say get a tan though. I don't get tan so I'll probably give mt2 a whirl when it starts to warm up
How frequently can I work calves and abs? Every other day ok if I'm eating 4500 cal a day?

>>40593090
>how frequently can I work calves and abs?

personally I don't train them anymore, but what I was doing prior was 2x/week heavy, seated calf raises, and then stairclimber/incline walking or running for cardio (every day)

works great, but for abs I can't offer much advice. I like to just train mine 1x/week

>>40592738
Lose weight and get on mt2

>>40593090
literally whenever you want as long as DOMS will not interfere with your heavy lifts

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Have you guys ever gotten a noticeable "alphaness" that you can attribute to a compound? I wonder if m-tren would give that since it has such a high androgenic rating.

>>40593069
What length are you shaving them? I have to change my arms and back of hands with a #1 so I don't look like an ape.

How to cycle Tren E and Test E? I don't know what amounts of each to use and for how long. I want to cut with it if that helps.

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>>40593090
>>40593144
>>40592399
what's a proper mt2 protocol since I'm too lazy to tab over to google

going to try it out this spring/summer I think since I accidentally bought an extra $100 in buttcoin and have nothing to buy

>>40593161
>what length are you shaving them?

that pic is with a #2, did the same on my arms and I like it. Against the grain, not with. I've tried 3/4 before and 1 as well, 1 is awkwardly short and doesn't look right, 3/4 keep it too long but just whack the ends off and it looks like shit

>>40593182
A good starting dose would be 1g (1000mg) a week of each

>>40592630
i used to do some retarded shit when i first started roiding, a total of like almost 250 sets per week. now i do 75-80 or so, and my gains have literally like doubled.

>>40592451
How to manage Glycogen?

>>40592738
How long have you been lifting & roiding for?

>>40592856
You aren't ready for steroids, I was not ready when I started and I can tell you, do more research or you will end up with hideous scars all over you chest and will have a 4k lazer and cortisone steroid injection therapy starting tomorrow to remove them

>tfw finally gonna be able to take my shirt off after 4 years

>>40593268
lifting 1.8 years

roiding 4 months, 3 months into blast, 1 month of blast left

>>40593238
strategic carb consumption and hydration. google it, too long to explain in detail here between hustlin work and shitposting in other threads kek

>>40593353
What were your stats at the start of your blast?

Also, how tall are you?

>>40592964
Imo your back is still small in proportion

Just do more rowing it'll blow your upper back up

>>40593112
>>40593191
Any reason you stopped training them? Doesn't take much time, I'll probably start working both every other day.

As for mt2 I don't remember the protocol research I did so sorry can't help there. I do remember google search shows that there's a very standard effective dosing though so it's not like it has to be "dialed in".

I was jut starting to run it when I relapse last year, I pinned a front loading dose and a few standard ones and didn't experience any facial flushing or nausea though.

>>40593481
I shouldn't say I stopped entirely, I still train them just 1x/week. I only did that because I subbed dedicated trap work in on the days I would normally do them, and switched them to my 'weak point day' instead. Seems to be working better that way.

as far as mt2 goes, I just want to make sure I don't go full leather mode, just a very light bronzing would be great. I'll look into it more.

best hypertrophy oriented routine in your opinion? been juicing and lifting mainly for strength for ages, i need to actually look like i lift too and the usual size blocks in my programming dont do enough. gimme your dank secrets, aesthetic /fraud/s!

>>40593422
78kg before, 88kg now.

>height

5'11" MASTER RACE, EMPORER OF MANLETS, COURTESAN OF LANKLETS, THE BALANCE, YING AND YANG, THE AVATAR

>lifts
404 error

>>40593448
i have been rowing like crazy since starting my BnC. I went from having zero back muscle to this, in 3 months. So all i need is time. Otherwise you are right

>>40593700
You're about the same height as I am then.

I'm also at 88kg, but my BF% is probably between 16 and 20% right now, which is awful.

I'm hoping my cycle will help me reach a decent bf% before the summer comes around.

What are you taking rn?

>>40593700
> taking roids to be 88kg

At my best i was 92kg, 8% bf at 6'0. Natural.

>>40593881
pics?

>>40593881
>people expect me to be 100kg, 6% shredded after 3 months of roiding and less than 2 years of lifting

okay faggot

>>40593769
currently on a simple 500 test blast.

>cycle for cutting
waste of gains brah

>>40593976
>cycle
waste of gains

>>40593937
All gone im afraid, been seriously ill for over a year and havent stepped in a gym for 5 months as a result...

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Do you guys know of anything worth buying in Iceland that you can't get in the states? I'd ask nderachore but he's probably busy fucking some super model.

>>40594291
Better post a hot woman if you want help

>>40594247
why did i see this coming in clear detail

ROIDS MADE ME ABLE TO SEE THE FUTURE

>>40594120
that too yes lol

>>40594247
I, too, delete all my pictures as soon as what they portray does not equal real life anymore. I have no pictures of my parents because now that they are deceased they stopped looking like their pictures.

>>40594247
>>40594494
kek

hes right tho, i once was 250lbs 4% but i have no pics cause the shame of not looking like that anymore was too much, sorry

Has any one had acne problems post pct?

I broke out a little on shoulders/upper back and mostly subsided after my cycle (was never that bad) but then after I finished everything completely I started getting cystic acne on my mid and lower back.

I almost never get it on upper back or shoulders, my chest and face are completely clear, buy my lower and mid back (like mid lats and down) get these inflamed, deep zits that have little to no pus just blood and oil under a lot of pressure.

My derm prescribed doxycycline but I'm worried it will come right back after. Did my cycle fuck up my skin?

>>40594608
PCT acne is normal, nearly everyone gets it

Im trying out alot of acne treatment method myself currently, but i think this shit right here

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0090188GS/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A16CSBVABRI04H

>benzoyl peroxid

works really great. no guarantee tho because ive been using it for a few days myself

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>>40592060
Any lads here use Growth?
How do you avoid the gut?
I know the gut is more insulin but gh is known for insulin resistance and IGF increase
Is it worth it rather than just test/tren?
How much do you use?
Before after shots?
thanks lads

>>40594669

This started flaring up right after pct though, and yeah my doc recommended panoxyl, same thing just benzoyl as a shower wash.

>>40594703
well this AND pantethine + l carnitine are your best bet.

Or accutane obviously, its god tier for acne if you want to take it

>>40594669
careful with this shit, bleaches the fuck outta everything it touches.

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Wew lads. Found out the reason this qt at work has been so shy recently is because she felt like I was out of her league.

>>40594676
Barely anyone here used growth for some reason but I'll probably pick up some soon and run it for a while as opposed to my usual tren replacement therapy. Plus my knees have always been fucked up from rapid growth spurts when I was young so maybe it'll help that too.

Most likely I'll do 5iu ED.

>>40594309
No, skeles only.

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>>40594796
>pic

Fuck she's looking like a piece of tanned leather.

Order's in.

Starting my eight week test prop cycle in 2 weeks time.

>>40594631
not anymore. also enjoy your ban

What's the name of that steroid/hgh document that someone released in Youtube

it was pretty obnoxious faggot but had interesting shit in it, showing pinning and meals and shit.

>>40594796
you gotta be extremely good looking for this girl to think you are out of her league.
Also how did you find out?

r u jacked af?

>>40594796
>for some reason
mainly the fact i cannot shit money

I've looked at the reddit post for Winstrol and it seems like a decent place to start a first cycle, mainly concerned with lower bf and tightening skin/muscle if at all possible.
I did a 2 year cut and cut hard (140lbs+), I've ended up with quite a bit of sag and small pockets of fat that I can't seem to bust no matter how much I cut.
Would Win assist in removing/decreasing it or possibly tightening the area?

>>40594796
Was thinking of doing 4ui a day for 16 weeks, but no idea the prices in aus

>>40594866
You want a first cycle?
Doesn't matter what your goals are, first cycle 500mg test e/c a week, 0.5 adex ed, nolva and clomid pct.
That's the standard first cycle, I personally think everyone should try that first, spend 10 weeks off after pct then try something slightly more advanced, add dec or dbol or eq or mast, give yourself a couple of feeling out courses first, 500mg test a week compared to natty is an entirely new world, you don't need winny first course to feel a world of difference, and honestly if all you want is to shred up your natty muscle, just get clen and t3 and save some money, use your first cycle to gain 5kgs, you only get 1 first cycle, and it's amazing, don't waste it just trying to cut a bit

>>40594839
https://youtu.be/WG75h9Yzn4k

Foud it.

Got anymore like this?

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>>40594852
Generics are like $1/iu if you trust them. Otherwise you gotta beat up elementary school kids with GH deficiencies and steal theirs.

>>40594849
>how did you find out?
Asked her after her friend alluded to it.
>you gotta be extremely good looking
My momma says so.
>jacked af
Eh like an NFL linebacker.

>>40594870
>prices in aus
Probably all non-essential organs plus one essential one per 100iu

>>40594991
>hit up lad who does m8s rates
>$70 vials of anything (very good price for FNQ)
>"yeah bro I can get you them cheaper than you'll find up here, not worth the cost still"
>"how much"
>"cheapest will be around $500 per 100iu bro, wouldn't bother"

Feck, what's the prices like over the lake?

>>40594963
google bostin lloyd. that dude is open af with his use.

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>>40595055
Y'all just get dicked on everything that's one major reason I could never live in Kangaland. Generics all come from china (just like most of the people in Sydney) but I guess because your customs is so anal it raises the prices to stupid proportions.

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>>40594991
Whatever happened to Izzy? She was perfect female specimen

>>40594991
>Generics are like $1/iu if you trust them
i do not, also that still adds up to a fun sum over time given my mischievous plans
>Otherwise you gotta beat up elementary school kids with GH deficiencies and steal theirs.
kek i know someone i could cop pharma from but i dont want her to die or whatever will happen if i take it from her. fuck me for not making it because of feels.

oh well.

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>>40595055
Oh but it's like $25 for test and ~$50 for tren/mast. Generic growth is usually under $1.2/IU and pharma is like $650 per 126iu kit

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>>40595133
>not making it because of feels
She's probably not going to die if she doesn't take growth. She got da AIDS?

>>40595132
No idea I think she said the last time she posted that she was going out of state with some girlfriends and when she got back she'd be running npp/var but never returned. Maybe she took too much LSD and found her true place as a forest nymph.

I tried to find her just to find out if she'd come back but never had any luck. Who knows it may have been a catfish all along.

>>40595112
Wanna know the most annoying thing Americans say?
"Make it yourself"
M8, I still gotta get the shit to make it sent from China, that has about 20% chance of making it through customs, and they charge a mark up to send it here because of the risk and postage prices.
Tried to get peptides from US other day and they wanted $260 (TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTY DOLLARYDOOS) in SHIPPING alone.
Also I live In Far north Queensland, so they send it internationally to Brisbane, then drive it 2000km north to me, meaning a minimum of 20days shipping, meaning there's a lot of shit that spoils before arriving.
That being said I get vials for $70 when most are paying $100-150, buying online from gearoz/ausjuice and the like will be $170 a vial.

My English cousin says he pays 12-15 pounds per vial, I can't imagine how cheap cycles must be elsewhere

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>>40595164
ESTP is qt too but Izzy was bae

>>40595132
Kahuna are you like 6'3?
I like your shape bra, would love to see you up the dose and T H I C Cen out a bit

>>40595164
yep, freddie mercury flu at full force, at age 8 (or 9? something like that) no less. and not even bbc or drug related, got it from her momma at birth. glad to hear she doesnt die from not taking it tho, might cop a bit here and there for good measure.

PS: fuck no i will not, i do want to become a monster but only mass-wise lol

>>40595164
Forest nymph mode sounds heavenly, find her and bring pics.

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>>40595205
Thanks m8. Yes last time I was measured was a while ago but just over 6' 3. Dose was just recently upped to thicken out. Am now on;
750test
600deca
25dbol
50adrol
and EQ is in the mail.

Goal is to add as much mass as possible

>>40595189
on one hand, i feel terribly sorry for you, on the other hand, thats what you get for living in FNQ fagit

makes you appreciate your ronalds more and work out harder though i suppose

>>40595299
What are you sitting at now?

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>>40595190
Nah Izzy any day. Even though she's say THICCer than any girl I've been interested in before I wouldn't hesitate to give her the 8x6

>>40595263
The growth is probably for muscle wasting then but yeah I would take someone else's medicine like that.

>>40595279
Hell naw the woods of upstate NY are skurry.

>tfw lats are too swole, can no longer make fart noises with my armpit

Life is suffering

>>40595299
What dose of eq?
r8 my next blast
750 tren e
500 test e
800 eq
750 mast e

Lmao leave humanity behind or die desu

>>40595441
Flex your chest and it should work m80

>>40595388
>I would take someone else's medicine like that.
>I would
YOU BASTARD

lel. no worries, i will opt for generics and hope for the best.

also
>8x6
mmmmhm

>>40595333
Just under 230lbs

>>40595388
After having one muscular gf it will always be my favorite body type. Sex is 100x better.

>>40595451
Looks dope, in gonna run that same thing over summer but with test at 250 and with winny/var stacked.
My EQ will be 800/wk for the next 6mknths

>>40595388
>woods of upstate NY are skurry
Nah I had great fun there, back when I was a dirty hippie. Then again, thicc forest nymphs tripping fat balls would be too much for me to handle too, as much as I hate to admit.

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>>40595472
Wouldn't. Gonna blame that on autocorrect.

>>40595472
>8x6
Tfw you'll never get to be some fetish bull because you're white.

Oh well

>>40595509
Experiences with winny?
Inject or oral?
How does your liver usually go?

>>40595527
just another faggot who roleplays on the internet so he can feel special

trip on catpiss

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>>40595556
Kay. And I'm definitely not catpiss.

>>40595527
>get on dat dere melanotan asap
>megadose and grill yourself for hours everyday
>become competing boxer so your nose and jaw will be broken
>realign them to be flatter than before
>forcefully forget any non-slang English you ever learned
>finally, become your final form, the bull

or just find middle class black couples you can reverse-cuck for money, that too

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>>40595509
Roid ex gf for reference. New gf needs to get in line and eat some fucking var already.

>>40595529
This will be my first time running winstrol

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>>40595577

>>40594929
thanks for this

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>>40595593
>ucking var already
Just slip it in her food breh. Or coat your dick in test gel.

Is she atleast open to trying it?

>>40595583
Hmm reverse cucking. I think I'd get shot if I did that desu.

>>40595699
it is not unheard of, although a veeeery specific fetish. no career for the long run lmao

>>40595593
>This will be my first time running winstrol
jerry claims another soul

F

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I'm feeling lazy as fuck about making dinner tonight. Y'all think I should get Chinese or make grizzly protein pancakes?

>>40595731
I'd never rely on it to be a career is something fun to do when bored. I'd be worried about the black guy suddenly thinking back to slavery scenes in movies and suddenly going all black power and cutting my head off or some shit.

>>40595767
i think you should make a gun and shoot yourself

>>40595671
2 ez bruss

>>40595793
nah im good, thanks m1888

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>>40595699
>>40595732
Idc how much of my bills she pays if she doesn't get on var and eventually npp I'll leave her.

You've never had a real orgasm until you cum inside a muscular manly qt that holds you and makes your feel safe

>>40595767
the common slightly overweight balding possibly nerdy middle class negro having reverse cuck fetishes will have lost the inherent strength and willpower to do that long ago. assimilation in every aspect

and i vote for pancakes

>>40595879
Do NOT waste your perfect sugar momma you oaf.

>>40595879
>>40595899
you already dont deserve her as it is, fucking tweaker

>>40595934
someones jelly

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>>40595899
I have given up trying to understand what she sees in me. She appears to have a great relationship with her father so I really have no idea besides muh looks.

>>40595934
If YOU don't like what I post on MY blog then don't read it meanposter

>>40595879
get her on primo/var

>>40596118
You ever use meth instead of clen?

>>40596179
no just heroin instead of a job

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>>40596195
>>40596179
You're projecting anon.

Do you you lads add clen on blast or cruise/pct?
Or would you use t3 on cycle with clen?

So if using test is a lifetime thing due to the repercussions of going off.
And you need to inject 2 times a week to not fuck everything up about your body.

Then how the hell do you take vacations by plane?
Smuggling steroids is illegal as fuck.

>>40596212
Bro >>40596179 is me, and I'm 100% srs, meth can be a good PWO and fat burner tbph

>>40596231
>sing test is a lifetime thing due to the repercussions of going off.

It's not
Clomid
Nolva
HCG
Adex
any test booster with this for 6 weeks an you can get your natty test back

>>40596231
>lifetime thing

lol

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>>40596254
that's a terrible idea.

>>40596231
either get a script for trt or use long esters like test U oooor you could pin 2x the dose beforehand and then you're okay for a week or two.

>>40592064
only losers care about "cheating"

I have a 52bpm HR on Tren kek

>>40596212
>projecting
don't think you know who kahuna is

>>40596438
This
Kahuna is fun

>>40596409
teach me your magic

>>40595509
Doesn't look like you need to gain much in the way of size, what are you aiming for? 240 lean with better proportions?

>>40596481
45min cardio ed, 300mg coq10, 6g Taurine and a baby aspirin. Also I only take 50mg tren a ed. And 250mg test e e4d.

>>40592060
How far would 4ui a day for 10 weeks end of cycle go?
Would it be worth it?

>>40596172
NO I WANT HER THICC NOT LEAN

>>40596179
I mean I've shot a ton of meth so I guess

>>40596448
Thanks bb

>>40596495
HUGE

>>40592444
Try flexing.

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Need an easy, good btc wallet.
Circle went to shit and all others confuse me.
What one do I get?
My tren awaits

>>40596890
coinbase is your only choice as an online service

otherwise it's localbitcoins or bitcoin atms irl

>>40596903
my source literally said to me
>other than circle or coinbase, you're g2g
wtf anon, why did they go to shit I'll look at localcoins I guess, since my state doesn't allow btc or something

>>40596957
coinbase looks at your direct transfers and if it's to a "blacklisted" bitcoin wallet they ban your account

you can avoid that by first sending it to yourself on a different wallet address ("tumbling") though

>>40596890
Local BTC wrh PayPal is easy if you don't mind a markup.
Check for a BTC ATM near you, that's what I use since circle shut down (coin base banned me too)

I've heard good things about Kraken recently, idk anything about it but probably worth looking into

>>40596957
anycoindirect if you're from europe

>>40592060
Is there good Dianabol and Anadrol synergy? Say about 30mg Dbol and 50mg Drol?

>>40596985
>>40596999
Why is this all so complicated?
Sending WU was even easier than this, Coinbase was pretty easy. Guess I'll look at Kraken.
My state does not allow btc atm's >:(
The tumbling thing sounds legit but wtf

>>40597045
Calum von moger uses this stack so I guess. Not sure about his dosage though

Thoughts on continuing my intermediate strength program? I completed SS 3 weeks ago, ive been on Texas Method since. This is my 2nd week on 500mg test c.

Ive read that it takes 4 to 6 weeks for test c to kick in but I feel like in already making slightly more than natty gains. Bench jumped from 235 to 245 no problem for example.

Anyway, should I continue on TM or switch to some brosplit juicer program? My goal is to be strong as fuck AND look good.

Oh my state does, but it's only like 4 hours from me

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>>40597045
Just started 25dbol/50adrol this week I'll post how it goes

>>40597051
Circle was based. I've done it through local Bitcoin using PayPal without leaving the house. Just had to send a selfie with my ID in it to the vendor, kinda weird but didn't take long. Noteworth markup but was simple enough, just sort by "accepts PayPal" and use a reputable vendor.

eating PIZZA

>>40597126
>eating off the paper jew

My next cycle is going to be tren Ace and test prop
Gonna start with 50mg each per day
That's 350/350 a week
Gonna wait 2-3 weeks and see how the side effects are, then up to dose...
My question is should I just raise the tren and keep the test at 350? Or raise them both equally?
Also would anadrol (4 weeks at 50mg a day) be a good oral to add to this cycle? Gonna run it over summer so I don't wanna be too bloated but I'd love to gain some mass too and I've heard anadrol is the ultimate bulking steroid... frauds opinion?

Noob here.

I pinned my right delt yesterday 1cc of test cyp and after taking the needle out blood and some oil came out.

The needle was 1 inch deep so not sure why it happened

Do I re-pin? Why did this happen?? No PIP either

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>>40594929
>0.5g ADEX ED

JESUS NIGGA WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING

>>40597231
A little blood is normal. A lot of blood is not. Did you aspirate? How long did you let the needle sit in your shouder (after emptying the test into your delt) before you removed it?
You should inject slower and also if you're using cyp no reason to inject delts. Just swap between quads and glutes.

>>40597231
it can happen on delts, no your shot wasnt wasted only a little bit.

everything's fine, it can happen on any spot really but because delts are a small spot it happens more.

>>40597303
It was like 2 or 3 drops of blood. I inject slow.. dont think I could go faster with a 25g. Like 30sec+. The thing that was unpleasant was seeing some oil spill out too

I did pull it out right away though

I like injecting delts. Is there a reason not to? Also all my pins are 1"

>>40597338
Thanks. To both of you guys for helping out a noob. Now im gonna call my ex to see if shes dtf

>>40597177
Bump for insight

>>40597372
if you can handle the eventual pip, why not?

Rotating between 2 sites is fine enough for 2 injections tho. Fuck even doing 6 weeks on 1 site is fine desu, fucked up my right VG because of that but that just means i gotta push harder through the skin.

>>40597177
Yeah that is a fine plan.
It's something you will want to toy around with and see what you like. But 350mg test/wk is a very good base to ramp up tren.
Solid plan

>>40596561
thanks. literally same for me except 35min. cardio and slightly higher test (both of which should not make THAT much of a difference) so I guess my heart just likes to cuck me for no reason lol

>>40597090
jacked and tan 2.0

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Am I at low enough bf to see the affects of winny and masteron?

I wanna do test cyp 250
Winny ED for 5 weeks
Start mast 400-600/week for 12 weeks.

I know it's lengthy but I'm not even gonna cycle. I b&c mostly anyway and after the mast is done imma still keep test 250 flowing.

Good cycle? I've done winny before and loved it, joints hurt but whatever. I've done mast but I was fatter.
I do have AIs / PCT on hand if needed.

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>>40597732
Here's another

>>40597732
yes

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will using anavar make my fat distribution manly? i want to powerlift/build my butt but faster

>>40597732
>>40597747
>roiding for this
Why?

>>40597817
if I'm not completely retarded and you are a grill, 5mg ED and lots of lower body volume should do the trick. you could technically go up to 15 but that's a slippery slope and I cannot recommend.

>>40597875
What?

>>40597607
Well, I do cardio for like a few years now, even before I started BnC. My BP is also on the lower side, 114/65 on average off and on cycle. Everyone seems to react differently, I have to donate blood every 2 months tho.

>>40597875
>implying roiding is bad
And why not? post pic

>>40598008
well i do not, hematocrit is a bro in comparison. give some, take some? i dunno. will up the cardio just for QoL though, it does me good.

>>40598054
How is your HR and BP?

>>40598074
62(ish) and 120/80. Both not optimal but alas, I had SPLENDID values as a natty so I can deal with this if it doesn't increase, which it should not.

>>40598131
That's not troublesome unlike some of the specialists here

>>40598144
yeah, I had worrying values on my last heavy tren blast but even those were below what some others report. I just really like to worry about this shit cause hypertension runs rampant in my family.

>>40598022
I'm not on anything yet been considering it but why bother when you don't look like something special

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>>40598242
why try anything in life then

>>40598168
So does it in mine, but they had shit diets and smoked/were fat/did no cardio.

>>40598242
So why not learn more about it than comment on others actually doing it

>>40598298
that's why i asked "why?"

>>40598269
no fatties (well not outright obese), but yup same. still, you underestimate my autism lol

>>40598330
You mean my body doesn't look like anything special? Or just me in general?

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>>40598354
it is common knowledge that roids should turn you into kali muscle overnight without even working out, so you not looking like that means they are not worth it

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Where to get HGH?

>>40598403
http://aretheyonsteroids.com/does-kali-muscle-take-steroids-or-is-he-natural/

I THOUGHT HE WAS NATTY HOW COULD YOU

>>40598481
>Small traps are extremely rare in steroid-users as they contain more androgen receptors (like your deltoids), meaning they’ll blow up as soon as you start juicing.
>they’ll blow up as soon as you start juicing

so my shit is bunk then huh

>>40598354
Don't get me wrong you look strong but your body looks disproportionate. Is it just bad insertions or bad training? I think its mainly cause I believe men should have that V taper especially if taking something and training right

>>40598560
>V taper especially if taking something and training right
b-but muh bearmode :(

>>40592630
I've heard stories of people recovering from a very intense squat workout in less than 24 hours while on methyltren, still sounds like a one way ticket to Snap City IMO

>>40598403
But I'm not on cycle? I've been off for more than half a year?

>>40598560
My training might be wrong. What are some spots I should hit to make it better?

>>40598560
Also my V taper is weak, but I don't do ab excercises. I'll be sure to hit that though.

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>>40592738
Pic related, tanning definitely gives the illusion of being more lean and defined than you really are

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feck brehs

some pro's from the ahnald had a photoshoot at my gym today, was mirin hard

couple guys who were my height 5'9" and had to be 230-250.

>>40598625
ordered some meme2 just a little while ago, gonna see what it does for me

i just come here for the girls.

i have literally never read a full post in any of these threads. just thought you should know.

>>40598606
>>40598624
I'm net here to really bash your physique I just don't want to have any mistakes when i start my first cycle

so /fraud/ what's the consensus on fucking fat chicks? got one who's all over my cock but I feel like I'm validating something that shouldn't be validated.

can anyone relate? relevant details is this would be me losing my virginity too. feels a bit gross to have this as the memory of my "first"

>>40598725
depends how fat dude

personally I'm down with the chubby chicks, they make me hard as diamonds

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>>40597732
kek
Nice bod brah

>>40598777
You too man, mirin that bicep vein

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>>40598725
my rule of thumb is she cannot have two chins. below that, she is just "womanly". as a virgin tho you should take what you can get. only females get nostalgic over their first.

>>40598725
i like em thicc and nasty. not obese but that shit gotta bounce ya hear me

also some give excellent head just cause they try hard, never know when the next cock to suck is gonna come around so might as well give it all

>hurr durr virginity
stop being a faggot. just get your dick wet you autist

>>40598725
>but I feel like I'm validating something that shouldn't be validated
step one, stop lurking /pol/ and /r9k/. step two, plunge your peepee into her hoohah

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>>40598777
mirin edward norton jaw

>>40598777
wanna know how i know why you dont shave?
>>40598873
>>40598873

>running test cruise
>feeling short of breath during lifts, slightly lightheaded, anxious, heart racing
>BP is normal when checked or slightly high
>Very tired after last Asin dose but joints feel perfect

Is this just anxiety? Or am I fucking with my e2 levels too much?

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is the secret to mass having shit form and cheating every rep because jesus christ I swear every pro I watch half-reps everything with some autistically inefficient weight and still gets Y U G E

>>40598916
could be crashed e2, but I haven't heard of anyone experiencing those specific sides (sans exhaustion) from it.

>>40598945
Anything works when you have great drug response and you're pounding 3 grams a week.

>>40598945
run their stack and you can run their "routine"

>>40598960
>>40598969
I'd really like to see what some of them are on just purely out of curiosity

>>40598981
ALL OF IT

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>>40592060
Can you give me a quick rundown on Alex?

>>40599032
holy shit is that can still being sold i need this immediately

I was thinking about adding cardio at the end of my workouts for a little help on my cutting.
Any suggestions of shit I can do at the gym as a finisher?

Also I take pre workout that's heavy in caffeine, should that be a caution?

>>40599068
jump rope

>Tfw taking steroids since 15 as anti rejection medication for transplant
>immunosuppression made me sick often and miss out on so much
>stretch marks all over my body, but they're pretty much faded now.
>Became fat for a while because of increased appetite

Other than that, it's been pretty okay. Bones are in perfect health, acne subsided, really low dose of steroids, so not extremely immunocompromised.
Made me get gains very easily when I started lifting at 16.
Risks that still exist:
>Osteoporosis
>Balding; losing hair in general
>Skin shit
>general risks with immunosuppression

>gained too much weigh on blast and now I have to buy new clothes
shopping for clothes is the w o r s t

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>>40598981
I saw an off-season stack that was something like:

1g test
1g EQ
1g Deca
100mg injectable dbol pre-workout
10IU generic HGH
However much slin

>>40599395
sounds like a fun time

>>40597817
T H I C C

H

I

C

C

>>40599269
>wearing clothes

Stay small being constrained by the textile Jew. Plebe.

How noticeable is the collagen synthesis from EQ? Do you notice that your skin get more "youthful "?

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>>40599395
>5'6"
>mfw hes krillin and im Vegeta

>>40599395
>pic
See, this is why I could never compete professionally. I actually like working out, I would be bored just waiting for the ronalds to do the trick on their own kek

>>40599097
Corticosteroids are not what we discuss itt you gandle

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>>40599395
I will never understand the use of EQ in these stacks. I mean yes, it's essentially side effect free, but it can't contribute that much to growth, can it? And the aesthetic effect it would have is essentially pointless in an off season, aside from random photo shoots.

plus it just fucking RAPES bp

recommend me another stack boyo, SIZE TIME

>tfw realizing strength training is starting to drain the fun from your workouts because all you're concerned with is a number on a board and you leave unsatisfied after every training session

maybe I'll get back to it but for now it's starting to turn into a grind. Just wanna get YUGE and figure out which way I want to take it in time.

Thinking of running 14 weeks of 450-750test/200-400tren e/wk and capping it off with 3-4 weeks of sdrol at the end, after my cruise and once summer starts. May end up adding accutane into it but 2spooped by all of the horror stories of the sides

>mt2
>accutane
>tren/test/sdrol

2017 SUMMER OF SLIGHTLY LESS UNAESTHETICS

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>>40599097

>on 20mg accutane ed and back is still getting fucked by acne + occasional 1 or 2 pimples on face regardless
what the f u c k

>>40600178
I came to the same conclusion about strength training a while back, every session started with me wondering if today would be the day I end up failing a set and have to drop the bar, wondering if today would be another stall day that will end up ruining my day and a lot of sessions ended up with me being emo about the day's performance. the highs of breaking PRs weren't even worth it.

training for aesthetics is actually FUN as hell, made me love lifting again after strength training kicked my ass for years

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>>40600219
I'm starting to realize the same, thankfully before it gets too bad.

I have a ton of room to grow before I could ever be competitive in a fun weight class for powerlifting anyway, so I still need to grow to the weight class regardless, may as well have some fun getting there if that's the end route I decide I want to take

>tfw purchased wrist wraps/second less-useful but more A E S T H E T I C belt

I'm literally going to become that bald, tan, meme manlet wearing wraps and a belt around the gym even when he's doing cardio

KEK WILLS IT

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>>40600178
>>tfw realizing strength training is starting to drain the fun from your workouts because all you're concerned with is a number on a board and you leave unsatisfied after every training session
Because you're doing it wrong

Look, here's a Deadlift workout I made to improve speed off the floor, totally original
>80% deadlift 2-3reps every 60-90 seconds, stop when bar speed slows enough to notice

10-15 walking, bodyweight squatting, planking etc

>(???)% power shrugs from the floor 3 reps 60-90 second intervals, stop when bar gets slow

Again, short active rest intermission

>Very slightly cheaty pendlay rows 3 reps 60-90 sec rests repeat until you start really cheating

Some quad work, I did hack squats, just bb reps and sets chasing the pump

Some RDLs, again bb sets and reps just burning shit out chasing the pump

If I were just trying to get big, what the fuck would I do? Just pump work for hours? Fuck that shit, that's the real boredom right there

>>40592060
Will 10mg of Nolvadex and 50mg Proviron help with water retention on Anadrol at 100mg? Will proviron keep from feeling shitty on Drol even with Tudca, NAC, etc + 250mg Test?

>>40600219
>>40600178
>implying you cant train for both
That number that you mention is the result of increased muscle/cns gains. So no its not just training for a number.

And stalling should be a minor issue when youre on gear. Either you guys are pushing bigboy weights (i.e. 4pl8+ bench)or your programming or diet are shit.

>>40600308
Possibly. No one can say for sure. Try it and report back.

>>40600312
>That number that you mention is the result of increased muscle/cns gains. So no its not just training for a number.
retard

>And stalling should be a minor issue when youre on gear
retard

go back to /plg/ you cuckboy natty

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>>40600291
>>40600312
it's not entirely the training style, in fact that's not it at all. I still incorporate 'strength training' every day

but autistically programming around a number and structuring everything just to build that max has been so unfun lately it's ridiculous. It's not that I'm stalling, progress has been great, it's just boring

seeing a physique change or noticing that your weakpoint is finally coming up physically is much more pleasing, personally, than seeing that number rise.

I still love and advocate strength training, but it just becomes a grind to reach a number value that isn't fun after some time. For me at least. You could argue the same for a 'bodybuilding' style of training (body fat/body weight being the desired number) but it's just more engaging, I think

>>40600335
You should have really learned some basic programming before pinning. Some people really are just lazy shmucks

>>40600402
No one here knows anything about training

Can I take tren for the purpose of fucking my gfs brains out?

>>40600402
you should think about not looking like a guy who has never lifted a day in his life before talking about increased cns and muscle gains you /plg/ retard

>>40600353
Training is just training, look back on the history of it and you'll see this division of "bodybuilding/aesthetics" and "strength training" is purely modern. Train with your heart and soul, you will get bigger and stronger at the same time, you don't have to choose between the two.

If whatever lift is boring you switch it up. Tired of deads? Max out rack pulls from the knee for a bit, they're always a bit of fun. You won't lose anything.

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> tfw you choke a bitch while fucking her with a cialis-enhanced cock of steel and her eyes bug out a little bit so you ease up a little and she inhales a huge gasp, but on the exhale she rasps "don't stop" and raises her head so you can get a better grip

>>40600580
Oh shit source on the book pls

>>40600603
nvw got it from the other pics

>>40600603
see upper right and left of pages.. i just finished it. it was entertaining gym humor. right at home here. i wouldnt buy it at full price. i got it from the library.

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moar samples

>>40600473
Hey again low iq angry guy who never learned how to properly do basic barbell movements and now hates those who can do what he cant. Look up any juiced/lean powerlifter or olympic lifter and then kill yourself you ugly bitch weight lifting small fuck

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this pic make me laugh

>>40600665
>"I am going to skip form altogether since you most likely will as well."

fucking kek I need a copy of this masterpiece, this is great

>>40600636
t. guy you wouldn't be able to tell even lifts

>>40600692
Literally all the jokes are from his videos, just watch those

hows my next cycle /fit?
1-16 test e 500
1-14 deca 400
1-4 dbol 40mg ED

12-18 HCG
18-22 nolva
18-24 clomid
ai and caber on hand for any issues, will i make some mass??

>>40600708
Ya bro when i rep 325 bench you cant tell at all man. Lmao

>>40600722
Put those numbers in on steroidgraph

>>40600744
I mean by looking at your body :)

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I want a final verdict;;

HAS ANYONE EVER HAD TANGIBLE EFFECTS FASTER WHEN FRONTLOADING?

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>>40600772
looks pretty good to me

>>40600884
You're on a 6 month blast, who cares if you can feel it 2 weeks sooner?

>>40600887
plot 6 more weeks and see when the deca actually leaves your body completely

>>40600907
EQ takes so long I hate waiting

>>40600992
stupid graph only does 20 weeks max, at the end of 20 deca is at 1.32 and test 1.4ish

>>40601033
and on week 18 when you're starting pct? do you see a problem?

help

i am like turning fucking mexican

help

~36 hours post tanning, 6 mins only in a fucking sunbed

THIS IS SO FUCKING AWESOME, FUCK. NEVER BEING A PASTY ASS FUCKING JEW KID AGAIN

>>40601153
now I'm waiting for the blog update of when you have to explain your new instant tanning to your mother

>>40601091
shit deca stays in the system for ages, if a pin deca once a week and only do 12 weeks on it, it should be as low as 0.6ish at pct time in week 18 or I could just lower the deca dose

>>40601172
they are literally so fucking stupid they will just believe me if i say its just from using tanning beds

>>40600884
i frontloaded 300mg in a week for a TRT regimen and felt it kick in noticably by/before the second pin (as a low test natty). probably not relevant to your situation but that's my experience

>>40601210
same, felt it basically instantly. although i frontloaded 500mg in one injection

>>40601234
holy fuck, 2cc of gear for your first pin?

you are fucking intense. probably gonna be a hulk by the time you're my age (27 started TRT at 26)

>>40601249
just frontloaded the basic bitch 250 test e3d

>>40601190
it does! not only that but it takes forever to reach peak blood concentration

if you're cycling, use npp instead. keep deca for when you're b&cing, it shines when you run it for a really long time

>>40601345
was on cruise now actually but considering jumping off after the next cycle

>>40600722
whats your hcg dosage

How much test do you all really cruise on? First read that the idea was to get to a trt level for a few months for your bloods to return to normal. But see more and more people claiming they cruise 200, 250, even 500mg. They don't get fucked over?

Its easy to read up on sides but such a bitch to get a sense of scale. At what point the damage really starts to manifest.

>>40601824
>At what point the damage really starts to manifest.
depends, look at your cholesterol, bp, etc.

Will an oil depot decrease the amount of test released in my body?

I think I fucked up a pin and felt a bump where I injected. This also might be the case because I generally felt like shit all weekend since I pinned a day later than I should have. On 350-400mg test E per week btw

>>40602045
>>40602045
>>40602045

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