/roids/

1st

>>40602059
no

>>40602059
1th

>>40602109
yass

guys should I spend my last $250 on a cycle or on a ticket to a 2 day festie?

What's the point of having a god tier body if u don't go to festies, but what's the point of festies if no god tier body?

I like the music but browsing fit made me dysmorphic so I won't be able to enjoy it if I'm not shredded

>>40602163
>guys should I spend my last $250 on a cycle or on a ticket to a 2 day festie?

really up to you bro, I'd rather be on cycle than at a festival, but that's just me

Hi first time posting here, my really big friend got me to start working out with him a couple months ago, and I made some gains but it eventually started slowing down, and he told me he could get me steroids and that if I take it right no one would be able to tell, but basically I've been on 400mg a week of tren only and this pill he gave me that said it gets rid of gyno for the past month and a half, I started making gains but recently I researched it and some people say to use testosterone instead and that tren is bad?

what do you guys think? I can't get a blood test without my parents knowing (I'm 18) but I am still on their insurance, and they would kill me if they found out. Should I just finish the cycle like my friend? He seems to have gotten good results with it and has done 2 cycles of it. Thanks

>>40602172
okay cycle it is thanks mate

>>40602045
>not calling it /fraud/ so searching for it in the catalog yields no results
>it being called /roids/ makes me nostalgic as fuck
mixed feelings

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>>40602190
Not sure if b8, probably not. Which is even more worrying.

>>40602263
gl

>>40602265
>it being called /roids/ makes me nostalgic as fuck
thats how I always use to do it.

>>40602293
my point exactly. glad you're still alive btw, how's things over there?

>>40602305
>glad you're still alive btw
same lol.
jk, glad youre ok too.

>how's things over there?
p good really, I have a fwb now that comes over once or twice a week.

pursuing a new 19yo now - she currently has a bf tho, but fuck that guy.

and there?

>>40602190
don't reply to this garbage bait

>>40602265
fraud is still in the op

>>40602190
>18
>400mg of tren a week
>no test

I'm dead

>>40602325
meh had major surgery (not lifting/roid related) so currently pushing babbyweight, but somehow I still look good enough (on low-ish cruise no less) to pull some new poon every other week, I'll live kek

>>40602327
you're right. my phone is dumb then. whatever, found thread, am gonna stay for a while.

>>40602353
speedy recovery friendo

>>40602353
>every other week
And keep fucking the previously acquired one for the meantime, or pull one, fuck her, wait a fortnight, pull another...? Yes I'm bored enough to ask lol

>>40602364
definitely. I would be out of anything remotely workout related for like five months natty, as it is now I was gucci to go at it again (with a disgraceful deload, but alas) after not even half that. fun stuff.

>>40602373
LMAO

bang previous one for the meantime, find a new one. thanks for asking, had me lol irl for some reason

>>40602364
>>40602386
kek misread. but thanks for the well wishes. as I implied, not gonna take too long.

>>40602398
work is slow today.

>>40602427
Post some JB then :)

>>40602439
dont really wona risk opening those pics at work, since there are 4 other bros in the Development lab with me

>>40602454
>put on flash drive
>pick at random without opening

I understand though. I have a folder of my own burning under my nails but fat chance I'm gonna dump some.

>>40602481
tfw still havent coppied it to my flash.

>>40602489
Hopefully cause your folder is so big and it takes literal days to copy them all? :^)

>>40602512
kek

yes, need to compress everything and all that.

>>40602520

Question about compression gear because I'm a silly bitch who can't read times.

>>40602533
>do branded compression fits actually perform better?

I was unaware compression gear performmed in the 1st place/

>>40602533
post butt in compression pants, for me to correctly guess what I'm working with here :^)

but yeah minor difference in fabric quality, also the brand stuff will last you longer and take more abuse because of that so down the line it is worth the monies.

jamming some Rammstein at work. havent listened to them since highschool

/blog

>>40602904
good stuff

shame i understand the lyrics, ruins the experience because they are borderline idiotic sometimes lmao

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>>40602045
So lads How much prami and adex would you run on
750 tren e
1000 eq
375 test e

I'm thinking .5 adex eod/ed and 0.2 prami, might run some mast in there but because none of these aromitise I shouldn't need much adex right?
Never used prami before but have run tren with no issues, just thinking I should run it to be on the safe side, but could use a hand with dosage.
Cheers boys.

>>40603042
And by might add I really mean I'll be running 750 mast e
Sorry for lying I didn't want people to get mad at me on the internet.

>>40603042
750 tren e
1000 eq
375 test e
750 mast e

Mirin stack

>>40603108
Cheers m8, still fiddlin
couple of tweaks could be

1-18
test e 500 first couple weeks then 375
1-16
EQ always 1000

6-18
Tren e 750/625
OR
4-18
Tren e 535

Same dose of mast as tren

Not sure if I could handle 14 weeks worth though.

What you reckon is better and coh much prami would you use?
I think .5 adex eod will be ok seeing as theres not much aromitisation going on

>>40603139
Nah I think ill keep it at 12 weeks for mast and tren, tren at 625 and mast at 750

>>40603139
>I think .5 adex eod will be ok seeing as theres not much aromitisation going on

same, can always increase if needs be, but doubt it.

the initial plan looks good.

> coh much prami would you use?
Idk, dont remember ecomended doses for prami off the top of my head soz

>>40603158
You're right, I should just buy it tomorrow and stop changing my mind

>>40603174
yas, get on the gains train bruh

wots best stack 4 a beginur?

lukin 2 get shredid

>>40603208
depends on goals.

prolly oral kickstart + 500mg test ew with ai tho.

500mg of not talking like a stoned nigger ED

>friend turns into a crackhead
>does trust his gear
>runs 1g (4ml) a day for 5 days to "test if it's real"

Is he gonna die?

>>40603319
Assuming test, he's not gonna die but boy is it going to be a fun ride.

>>40603319
>Is he gonna die?
maybe, but not from test.

>>40603042
shoot all of the stack you have in a single day.
cmon man its like you dont want to get big.

What is a good cutting stack

tfw dealerbro whatsapp me saying there is a sale going on.

>>40603347
>sale on illegal drugs
he is trying to scum you.
god knows what happened to things he's trying to sell you.

is frontloading test a thing?
Should I do that on a 750 test E cycle..
last cycle took a while to kick in

>>40603355
he probably just needs the cash flow to re up

don't be so skeptical anon

>>40603345
dnp

>god knows what happened to things he's trying to sell you.
idk.
something is deffs up.
another dealerbro also had a sale last week. everything was about 10-20usd cheaper

>>40603381
I dont know man,I prefer to be skeptical about the chinese bathup chemicals that I shoot in my ass.
>>40603389
take care bre,you are a likeable namefag.

>>40603418
>take care bre,you are a likeable namefag.
thanks man.

>>40603042

Fuck prami - don't use it. Either use caber or nothing. Have arimidex on point - if you can use Masteron also use that. Keeping both of those to push any sort of oestrogenic sides to a minimum *should* stop the worst of the prolactin sides.

Adex at .25mg ED should be enough.

>>40603614
>fuck prami
say that to my face in real life see what happens

>>40603804
1v1 me irl >:c

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Don't know if i can ask this but i'll try anyway
How much time is usually occurs for confirming btc payment through electrum with low dynamic fee?

>tfw eyeballing calories apparently not as easy as it used to be

literally have been eating 400-600 under maintenance for first two weeks of blast instead of the same or more in a surplus. what the fuck. might consider tren + GOMAD kek

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are the appetite suppression sides of mt2 as potent as something like ephedrine? And are they dosage dependent or is it just a blanket effect for the compound?

>>40604281
not by a far margin, and somewhat dose dependent although noticeable anyhow.

for me anyway, someone chime in with science lol

>>40604281
Is that actual qtcz OC? If so, dayum, moar.

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>>40604472
thanks, guess I'll find out when mine gets here

just wondering since starting to run it will align perfectly with my cut

>>40604475

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>>40604499
Never noticed that's supposed to be her. Would explain why you post it so often though. pic related

>>40604499
nothing to really worry about. if you usually rely on stims for a cut, you will need some still, but for some people it can be a however small bonus I dunno.

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>>40604527
kek yeah, finally found the charger and my SD card adapter for my G11 and she's okay with it so I should be able to get some L E W D pixxx when we take our trip together ;^)

>t-minus 4 days
>tfw blue board so can't post the inevitable video of FUGGING

>>40604536
thanks, haven't ever tried using ephedrine before which is why I ask. Was curious if it was enough to stave off appetite equally, will probably go ahead and order some ephedrine as well anyway

You guys ever squeeze your nips randomly and then freak out because shit comes out?

>>40604561
Please consider making a dropbox or w/e. Never could you dare letting sfw boards stop you from sharing grainy vids of your hairy ass bouncing over some qt lmao

>>40604561
eph is no joke, look what it turned Alex into lol

but yeah, be a responsible adult (>IMPLYING) about it and it's pretty based for cutting

>>40604612
no. nipple diddling stimulates prolactin release even in natties, let alone fraudsters.

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>>40604612
happens when I get my prolactin gets out of hand, kinda a fun party trick desu

>hey guys bet you I can milk myself
>lmao no fucking way
>squeeze nip
>D U D E W H A T

>>40604613
bretty gud idea. Will do it.

10iu GH per password for the dropbox

pro card here I come

>>40604625
yeah I'll probably just start at 15mg/day and up the dose as necessary to keep myself from feeling hungry. Is caffeine really a necessary thing to partner with it? Because caffeine fucks my BP to ungodly levels.

>>40604655
>10iu GH per password for the dropbox
Nigga what. Might as well let me shag her too for that markup you bastard kek

>>40604655
not necessary but pretty darn useful any synergistic. keep the E high and the C low if you really have issues. I had good results on E alone but I have a bit of a history with stims so I cannot vouch for people who don't.

>>40604669
kek

>>40604684
thanks will give that a shot.

>ephedrine, mt2, more asin, slin pins all on the way

returning from vacation is going to be like Christmas round 2

>>40604561
I hate EC. Suppressing appetite effects go away after the first few days and I just ending up feeling like I'm coming off meth every time I dose the ephedrine.

I did have good success losing weight with it when natty though.

>>40604669
he didn't rule out generics. 10 bucks for shagging her? sign me up lmao

>>40604703
go big or go home. awaiting a major package of assorted fun stuff myself, dis gon b gud

Is EntroPay legit? Need to add some money to a prepaid CC to buy peps with since I don't want some indian buying a new poo bucket with my card. Haven't used it before and too lazy to run to the store and buy a prepaid.

>>40604722
I'll have to try it and see, I usually don't have too much of a problem with stims and they work fairly well for me. What was your dosage?

>>40604735
whatcha waiting on

whats the different between 10ml vial and 1ml vials? why 10ml cost less?

>>40604753
lots of peps (half of which I can't even spell the name of kek), fuckload of smaller pins (currently using 23g, meh), ingredients for next blast (tren/mast at lmaodoses), and new sex toys to shove into my SO by the fistful. which obviously will be a different package but I still await it eagerly.

>>40604781
>which obviously will be a different package

I should start a one-stop sex-toy-shop for roids and bondage gear

You just reminded me to pack qtcz's surprise blindfold/nipple clamps for this trip, thanks duder

>>40604760
Depends on the seller and specific substance.
But since 10ml costs less, it's likely just diluted 10x. Same amount of active shit as 1ml, more carrier fluid.
If you can't get more information from the seller, simply do not give them any money.

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>>40604753
Usually 25mg 3 times a day (so 1 pill of brink aid, 3 times a day) with caffeine as needed (usually 200mg, 3 times a day with the ephedrine).

Some days when I worked a lot id end up taking 100mg ephedrine total.
I found towards the end that breaking the pills in half and dosing more frequently helped me feel more stable and get better appetite supression (so 12.5mg taken 6x throughout the day).

>>40604795
well I for one would be your loyal customer, saving on shipping and such. if only for the hilarity of the SO opening a package with halo and a bullwhip and shuddering at the thought.

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Hey faggots I try not to post anything that might be helpful but here's some potentially helpful info;

Next week the SEC is going to rule on the winklevoss ETF (I'm guessing they approve) which will bring bitcoin investing to the mass market. I'm guessing at least 400 million in assets get dumped into the ETF as soon as it can

This will undoubtedly cause a severe Increase in price, I'm predicting at least doubling in the first week after approval.

So I recommend everyone buy as many bitcoins as they can and hold on to them before this SEC announcement. Double your money in less than a month!

You heard it here first! March 20th is when I expect the price to be doubled. Current price at writing is 1257 (coinbase spot)

ETF approval isn't for sure yet. Although there was a 1.57 million dollar buy today.

Odds of approval are supremely high. The twins have been working on this for years.

SEC/government have wanted more control over this "currency" for awhile now. This is a good step in the direction of regualtion for them

I've never been more confident in the stability of Bitcoin than ATM. Even just this ETF making news will be good. No approval = no regualtion = good for bitcoin....approval = big money = good for bitcoin

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>>40604905
>tfw decided against buying more btc to let them sit on their balls just because and bought rons and other shady stuff instead
>tfw my current 30$ worth of btc left will double to $60

where were you literally three days ago. now I have no real money left to invest that wouldn't endanger other projects if I took it. feck. but thanks for the heads-up m80, always appreciated.

>>40604905
I'm probably going to leave 7kUSD in there. Enough to profit off of, but not enough to care for a loss in case of failure. Maybe 10k, not sure.
Thanks for letting me know, dude.

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I wasted 500$ on a college deposit before I decided again fuck college

aint gonna get the money back though unfortunately, thinking of how many vials i could have gotten instead

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>>40604905
>tfw still have 3 buttcoins from investing at $700

already made $1500, LETS GO FOR MORE BABY

>>40604905
/biz/ crypto shilling is spreading

>>40604905
>serious Kahuna post
where the hell am I

what happens when coinbase bans your account if you have bitcoins stored on there? do they just steal that shit?

>>40605230
From what I've heard, they generally ban the selling or buying of bitcoin on their site, but still allow wallet access. So you can still use your BTC elsewhere.
If you're really worried then just shove it off into separate wallet/s. Blockchain is popular. But clientside on your own computer with backed up keys works best for security.

>>40604966
At least youll get a free vial of test

>>40604986
>tfw 7k disposable in savings
Jelly

>>40605202
I use Reddit, biz is a meme

>>40605206
The future of kahuna is mundane posting. I had a five minute conversation with my gf about whipped butter being better than regular and about my shoe coming untied on the treadmill. I am becoming a normal boring human.

>>40605301
>At least youll get a free vial of test
which I have enough of to last me most of 2017 already

but yeah I will invest the small profit into something fun in your honor haha

>>40605301
>Jelly
I have no expensive hobbies or debts. Even working minimum wage keeps quite a bit in the bank. Really should diversify assets more though.
Diversifying gains is fun.

>>40605301
>I had a five minute conversation with my gf about whipped butter being better than regular

I can't believe it's not butter master race

Anyone use a debit card with Coinbase? The verification isn't working for me

>>40602190
You should always base a tren cycle on testosterone, hell even low dose trt test. If you wanna keep your balls, that is.
Test and tren is the way to go

>>40605366
>If you wanna keep your balls, that is.

Explain please?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21266670

>tren replacement therapy

>>40605366
> falling for bait
> samefagging
Check em.

>>40605366
I don't know who you are and why you keep answering obvious shitposts but you need to stop

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>>40604655
>my prolactin
Weird thing is I'm running .25mg of caber ED. Wew I'm gonna die.

>>40604905
Did you copypasta that from Reddit? I'm pretty sure I've read that exact thing before.

>>40605377
> Trenbolona very androgenic
> Trenbolona shut you down hard and give tittis
> Trenbolona alone iz has MORRE sides
> Trenbolona only good with testorona
> gh15approvd

You could've just fucking Google'd for 5 minutes. But here you go, fuckfacerona

>>40605384
I am that guy

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>>40605391
Yeah I put together a few comments from a thread to read easily.

I would never offer any financial advice that I've come up with myself, don't worry.

>tfw 16yo with choker and into horseriding wants the d

tindergirls are batshit crazy. Can't not feel like a manupilative creep if I ever were to bang that

>>40605476
h i t t h a t

no regrets, they're great fucks, the only issue usually is logistics. they don't drive and live with their parents so that sucks

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>>40605476
>into horseriding
>batshit crazy

Do it but I hope your dick is big because we all know she probably looks at horsedick all day.

>>40600219
>on 20mg accutane ed and back is still getting fucked by acne + occasional 1 or 2 pimples on face regardless
>what the f u c k

Doesn't isotretinoin take some time to reduce oil gland size? That's the main effect that reduces acne, as I understand.

>Although acne may get worse within the first month of Accutane use for about 30% of patients, the ultimate results are usually dramatic.

http://www.acne.org/accutane.html

But if you've been on it for a few months already, then something's wrong.

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Do you guys look older than you are? I've never had a really youthful look but having a beard and using all these androgens definitely isn't helping.

>>40605527
>as I understand.
Yes it works by reducing sebaceous glands activity.

>>40605585
I probably should, having lots of facial hair and literally no collagen left in my face (lol), but I am kind of a vain prissy who got memed by my gf into using hyaluronic acid based creams and it works surprisingly well. Not to imply I still don't look older than I truly am, but by a far smaller margin if that makes sense.

I am on TRT does that make me it easier for me to do PSMF? I want to lose the fat as fast as possible

>>40605525
those tits are perfect

Where do you find a place to donate blood in the US?

About to Google but fraud was already open so I'll ask here too

>>40605669
You won't lose as much if any lbm and your hormones won't crash to shit after a few weeks yeah.

I'd cycle it a bit with some planned refeeds so you can workout without feeling like dying at all times.

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>>40605681
...Red cross or the armed forces blood program.

>>40605616
Which one? I've got some hado labo meme Japanese hyaluronic acid lotion but I don't notice anything.

>>40605670
Yeerp. She's a slut too.

>>40605716
I train 6 times a week using a high volume routine right now, how would I go about training on PSMF? should I reduce it to 3 times?

>>40605716
So, from my understanding, fat consumption is pretty important for test production, and low fat diets tend to crash test.

Does that mean that not hitting your fat macros isnt that big of a deal when on a cutting cycle?

>>40605585
I've always looked young and that hasn't changed. If anything though the extra lbm makes people guess higher, face hasn't changed much. Only been maybe 5-6mos of bnc lifestyle though

>>40605728
Yes. But you might feel like complete shit since fats are metabolically important for more than just test production.

>>40605727
Dude I'm not a babysitter. Just run your diet and training how you think is best, if you hit a speed bump then adjust. Don't sit there agonizing over every possible thing

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>>40605585
Gear and meth aged me like 10 years in the span of 2. Ended up more attractive than before though, just look older than I am.

>one of you stupid niggers reported just because I posted 3roids

Fuck you you balding faggots

>>40605755
those lats turn me on.
I have finally turned gay,thanks /fraud.

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>>40605760
well thats a chick, so not really homo

>>40605755
>meth
do you still use it ?
are you a fucking methead.

>>40605725
Standard otc creams seem underdosed and hella overpriced, I just buy a concentrated serum like https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hyaluronic-Acid-Serum-100-Pure/dp/B003MJ7Z0O (not that specific one but I wasn't able to find mine on amazon to show you) and put a fuckton of it into another moisturizer and lather it on overnight, and a dash of it before I leave the house in the morning.

That might be the gayest sentence I have posted all day.

how much would high test help on a cut? Does it help more with lipolysis, muscle retention, or metabolism?

Would I be able to eat more than a cutting natty and still lose more fat and maybe even put on some lbm on high carb days?

>>40605825
You would probably gain lbm even on a cut, it might not speed up a cut significantly but you would be really unlucky to lose any muscle.

You might bloat though and gain water weight, so the scales will be unreliable at first.

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>>40605794
>gayest sentence I have posted all day
Nah. We should probably take better care of our skin anyways.

I'll probably see if my derm has some script stuff otherwise I'll just buy sodium hyaluronate and make my own.

>>40605905
I know actual homos who pay less attention to their skin- and haircare than I do. Then again, they also are natty or run only half as androgenic stacks lel

And yeah that sounds like a plan. Can't be fucked to make my stuff from scratch but my sis is rather versed in this shit so I might force her to help me.

>>40605768
I've been clean since December

I don't think my drug habits are breaking news, I'm pretty open about my heroin/meth/crack addiction

>>40605981
I didnt know about meth man.
take care, you are a cool namefag,if you fucking die or go to jail you will leave us alone with glands faggot or ppl like alex.

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>>40605981
I did a shitload of adderall my freshman year of college, 3 days binges regularly. I lost 25 lbs within a half a semester. Stims are a crazy roller coaster. So glad to have that shit in the past and I'm sure you feel the same.

Update on that girl: She didn't come with me to that party last Wednesday and now I feel like my window of time after the party she met me at last Saturday is far gone. :(

>>40605825
I'm taking 500 mg test/week and it might be too much for a cut. I've been doing keto + IM fasting + 1500 kcals a day and have been taking winny 25mg's a day. Idk wtf is going on i'm definitely getting leaner, my obliques and lower abs are beginning to show but I've stayed the same weight, lost maybe a lb or two.

>>40606031
*countless regular anons and worthwhile tripfags clearing their throats in the distance*

but I agree Kahuna is an alright lad for sure. pls be safe

>>40606031
>>40606079
>>40606089
That stuff is very taxing on your mental health. I have been feeling very good recently, extremely grateful for all the positive things in my life.

Thank you for all your support you faggots

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>tfw no matter how big I get I will always be stuck with gay bottoming thanks to my microdick
there is no escape

>>40606089
he is better than glands man,moosey,alex,for sure.
these faggots are literal cancer so we need every single alright lad to fight them back.

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>>40606191

>>40606193
rude

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>>40606231

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>>40606257
dont reply to my posts again you fucking abomination.

>muscle memory along with test+tren blast
holy shit, lucky I live all alone so no one will notice me explode

>>40606231
how'd she react when she saw the giant ANON TOOK A SCREENSHOT OF THIS CHAT pop-up

Any real difference in cruising on 250 instead of 200 Test?

>>40606330
no diffrence.
there is no diffrence between 200 instead 150 too.
150 instead of 100 same.100 instead of 50 same.
so you should start working out natty.

what would happen if someone like boogie hopped on high doses of test, would he die, or transcend humanity?

>>40606387
Probably just be a fat sweaty disgusting mess.

>>40606387
he would die of a heart attack in a month.

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Freeballing at the gym. Yes or no?

>>40606191
Do you legitimately have a micropenis (>3 inches hard)? Or are you average for a whiteboi (5 inches)? There is a difference, and you probably won't ever be any girl's biggest dick, but you can have a normal sex life with an average penis.

How does /fraud/ feel about orals on the whole? Anavar is stupid but is something like dbol really worth it? Are the sides iffy and not worth the time just because we're waiting for it to kick in vs potential adverse reactions?

>>40606690

No

>>40602045

Why are you posting a picture of hydroxocobalamin injections? That would be vitamin B.

>>40606730
it's 12 cm or 4,7 in burger metrics. I speak from experience, it only works decently when I fuck missionary but even then it regularly slips out, and no other guy I've been with have had a smaller one than mine (and I've been with quite a few lol). it also doesn't help that it's only 12 when I'm hard and man is it difficult staying hard when you fuck a poop hole

>>40605728
to expand on>>40605750

You need fat intake for cellular signaling and membrane integrity. A high quality fish oil supplement is perhaps more important on roids than natty for cardiac protection. I recommend Nordic Naturals as they are consistently excellent in 3rd party test results, they offer an algae derived oil, and the flavors are delicious. Not to mention, low quality fish oil that oxidizes before you even consume it is a net negative to your health and performance, so it's not to be cheaped out on.

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>>40606735
>Anavar is stupid
Var is probably one of the best orals and it's proven. Most people just get garbage unfortunately because pharma is pretty pricey.

>No

Y tho?

>>40606741
because most teenagers roiding without mommy knowing claim muh b12 when caught kek

>>40606735
Dbol is insane, its dirt cheap and fucking strong.

You will be benching your max for easy reps after less that a week.

>>40606760
If you have considerable disposable income, I would consider hiring Ronielle.

>>40606760
>man is it difficult staying hard when you fuck a poop hole
have you ever considered that you might not be gay

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>>40602059
Dammit yolo! Post jb pls!

>>40606781

If you lose a ball due to containment issues odds are you sit on it or drop a teste on the side short. Not worth the freedom imo

>>40606806
But muh gyno

>>40606810
who dat
>>40606826
I don't mind women and want a future wife but they don't make me hard like men do. the smell of shit when you unclog his ass however....

>>40606863
Take an AI, you are pretty stupid to get gyno on cycle.

I did 6 weeks dbol 3 months test and 6 week winny, used 0.5 armidex eod never got any sides whatsoever.

>>40606915
Taking similar amount of AI and feel great af. Truly goodbol

600mg/w 50mg/dbol 12.5mg asin EOD

Where do you guys get your pins?

>>40607323
W A L G R E E N S

>>40607323
Amazon

How should my routine change when on roids? Is there a specific exercise routine that will maximize the use of steroids?

Are there any legal roids in America? Also is there a way to avoid the needle?

I'm curious because I'm a natty and been lifting for like a year but I wouldn't mind juicing for like a month just to get crazy biceps and bench then stop.

Also would I lose the gains if I stopped and continued natty?

>>40607449
fuck off retard

Niggerification round 2 complete

Used a stronger tanning bed this time and also for a longer time

>>40607470
Ok I'll fuck off but could you give me answers pre-fuck off?

>>40602045

Looking into doing my first cycle of 400mg of test e for 8 weeks. Any pointers?

>>40607485
Using melanotan II?

>>40607501
Why 400? If you're doing an 8 week cycle you need to use test p. What are your plans for those 8 weeks/what are you hoping to accomplish? Are you planning on cycling multiple times a year? What's your PCT protocol or are you going to B & C? I support yoloing but the more consideration you do the more effective you can be.

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>>40607417
Depending on dose you can literally do dumb machine shit and still grow somewhat, if nutrition is on point. I usually recommend Jacked and Tan 2.0 or Serge Nubret's routine though.

Did roids help anyone's depression or social anxiety?

>>40607485
inb4 you get deported as soon as you eventually leave the house

>>40606690
I've caught muh shorts on something sticking out and had them pulled down at least it once before, be prepared to flash everyone the goods and possibly get in serious trouble

>>40607323
Androusa

>>40607567
What is Serge Nubrets routine?

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Favorite pokemon?

>>40607625
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=serge+nubret+routine


>>40607676
Machoke. I am legally obliged to.

>>40607676
Blaziken.

>>40607533

Looking at 400 as I don't want to noticeably change at an accelerated rate (for job reasons). Why is Test P better?

Hoping to test my body by only doing a small basic cycle, get pinning and experience in countering sides.
Depending on how the first cycle goes, may look into doing another cycle in the year.

PCT wise - Nolva? Milk thistle?
maybe B and C

>>40607567
This. It just baffling me how some people think that some special routine will just magically change you into ronnie coleman just in 1 day.

I have grown on fucking bro split and doing stupid shit. Africans playing with fucking rocks are 1000x huger than you. WITH FUCKING ROCKS and you're still thinking some stupid routine will do something for you. You fucking, i just wanna annihilate you

1.genetics
2.food
3.volume

that's it, in that order.. no rocket science.

>>40607571
No, you are born with shit genetics

My advice is just to use roids to get a huge a possible so everyone will be afraid of you and this will get your confidence.

>>40607449
Hello? Help? P-please

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Is connor murphy on roids? if so what ones?

>>40607767
I'm bored, I'll bite (and if this happens not to be bait, remove yourself from the gene pool immediately).

>Are there any legal roids in America?
No.
>Also is there a way to avoid the needle?
Technically, orals. Realistically, no.
>I'm curious because I'm a natty
No way.
>and been lifting for like a year
Good job,
>but I wouldn't mind juicing for like a month just to get crazy biceps and bench then stop.
No.
>Also would I lose the gains if I stopped and continued natty?
Implying the above cycle length, you won't make any that you can lose after.

Now get out.


>>40607769
All of them.

>>40607756
Exactly. I mean, some structure to your training never hurts in the long run, but the way people on this board go full aspie over minor inane details of their workouts is sickening and unproductive.

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>start TRT
>faster strength gains while cutting than while bulking natty
>sex drive exists again
>less sugar cravings and junk food doesn't taste as good (maybe this is just diet changes?)
>less moody and lethargic

>mfw all of this change in such a short time
What a month it's been.
How the fuck do normal people complain about any of this shit? I feel great. Being on a blast must feel really good.

Also, is there a way to decrease the likelihood of hitting a nerve when pinning? I get muscle spasms sometimes during needle insertion, and it rekt one of my quads last week.

>>40607323
GPZ Medical.

where the fuck do people even buy roids?
Can't figure this shit out, all the websites seem shady as fuck, not sure if real or gonnastealyourcreditcardinfo.org

>that skelly kid who comes into the gym m/w/f to do his 3 3x5 compounds then fucks off after 30 minutes
>that girl destroying her back headed straight to snap city from doing diddlies incorrectly
I wish it was socially acceptable to give advice to people at the gym

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daily remember that a fucking hobo is 1000x bigger and more ripped than you playing with sticks and rocks

>MUHH ROUTINE

>>40607769
Who cares whether someone is on roids. 90% of people who roid don';t even look like they roid.

You see how stupid this question is faggot

>>40607826
It wouldn't say it's completely irrelevant, but focus on the most important factors first like a good diet. After that you can tweak around with some different exercises

>>40607868
I never said irrelevant. But as long as mechanical tension, metabolic stress, and muscle damage occur, hypertrophy is wont to happen. However you might induce any of those three is up to you. There is more to it for the advanced lifter, and the whole process is slightly different for strength athletes and actual competing bb pros, but besides that, the selective autism some people, especially beginners, display here makes me want to claw my eyes out.

>>40607843
>>start TRT
>>faster strength gains while cutting than while bulking natty
>>sex drive exists again
>>less sugar cravings and junk food doesn't taste as good (maybe this is just diet changes?)
>>less moody and lethargic
>>mfw all of this change in such a short time
>What a month it's been.
>How the fuck do normal people complain about any of this shit? I feel great. Being on a blast must feel really good.
>Also, is there a way to decrease the likelihood of hitting a nerve when pinning?


If you're just doing TRT, then do subq. No reason to IM.

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lmao that girl is bigger than yolo without even looking at a dumbbell, let alone touch one

ITS CRAZY WHAT GENETICS CAN DO

>>40607932
I never said that you said that it was irrelevant.

>but besides that, the selective autism some people, especially beginners, display here makes me want to claw my eyes out.
That's because they're fucking naive, like everyone thinks that tren makes you grow muscle over night without breaking a sweat because they're delusional from watching muhhh zyzz motivational videos.

>>40607756
Want to know why?
People could tell someone had abnormal amounts of muscle in two seconds back in the 80's.
Want to know what changed? 90's bodybuilding and heavy marketing of "EVEN YOU CAN LOOK LIKE THIS" and "THESE 400lbs ATHLETES WITH 2% BODYFAT ARE PERFECTLY NATURAL!!!" bullshit.

People honestly believe that they'll wake up one day looking like panda or seid if they eat six meals a day and do retarded bodybuilding routines that only work if you're on gear. And girls shy away from lifting, both because their terrified of looking like DLB or TUFF LESBIAN POWERLIFTER #45324 and are always shamed by swole bitches if they even say they want to lift but only to maintain or make themselves look better.


But I digress, the moment it becomes common knowledge that guys and gals like you do steroids the bottom will fall out of the fitness and dieting industry.
It will just fucking implode.

>>40607006
Dat a boy, any lethargy from the dbol?

I did notice i felt quite tired through the day but energy through the roof when working out.

>>40607991
It's been proven without a doubt that steroids will grow muscle overnight with out breaking a sweat.
Zyzz was a lazy fucktard when it came to lifting. All of his mass came from the bottle.

How do I pin glutes and legs when I'm fat as fuck
I've just been doing bis and tris because my legs feel like they have a 1" layer of whale blubber before the muscle lmao

>>40607991
Delusion is strong here. Not to say I have none myself, but I use it to fuel my hate of how dyel I am lmao

>>40607868

>Who cares whether someone is on roids.
er... me thats why i asked

>You see how stupid this question is faggot
pls start making sense

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>>40607996
Those people should inform themselves better. Trial and error, that's how i also learned it. At first i also believed that some protein shake would make look like ronnie coleman. One day i realized; i either go full 100% or just stop everything. I choice to go full 100%.

Trial and error is the only way.

>>40608020
Then why is everyone still dyel over here? According to your theory everyone should be fucking big with steroids. I have seen it in real life. If it was that easy EVERYONE would be big and ripped. It's not for the weak minded, that's why i like this sport.

How many big and ripped guys you see in real life? Exactly.

Zyzz was dyel beyond believe and could be easy attained natural

>>40608030
If you use that as motivation to better yourself, then i see no problem over here

move on sir

>>40607795
I can't do roids for a month and then stop just for a boost?

>gotta use needle
Uhhh idk then...

>it's honestly not bait

>>40608121
how is work going masT
you are not around these days m9.

>>40607860
There's so much information everywhere, and it's not like you're mean mugging them every time they glance. It's their responsibility to figure their shit out or at least ask the people stronger than them what's up.

>>40607991
>Genetics
They also probably eat plenty of fresh meat, and do hard forms of labor every day from a very young age.

Tired of this muh genetics argument, so fucking what about them. Figure out the triggers for your special snowflake genetics and push that button over and over.

>>40607946
>subq
That's into fat, right? How is it done? Will I need to get different needles?

>>40608121
Do you plan to use insulin and GH?

>>40607856
i-it's okay..

I-I-I didn't want answers a-anyway..

>>40607856
>>40608412
There is no source talk available you fucking nerd

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>>40608120
what about caring more about your dyel life and less caring about other people's life. First get your own shit together before even thinking about other people. You hear me faggot

I make sense now?

>>40608231
I know breh, got busy lately. I miss you too.

What can i tell about it, other then fucking pajeets taking over the world. FUCKIN PAJEETS

>>40608328
lmao being this mad, because his parents gave him shit tier genetics and some africans are 100000x bigger than you playing with rocks and sticks and no roids. It's the fucking reality faggot. Better luck maybe in the after life.

i love it when you do your utter best to grow 1 mm on your arms with tons of gear while some african plays with rocks and sticks and achieves more than you with tons of steroids. KEK

>but muhh routine

>>40608188
>so tempted to insult this faggot.

sigh, no you cant, you will shut down your hormone system and have zero fucking gains.

>>40607449
>>40607767

under 18 b&

>>40607449
yep kill you'reself

Anyone here take Ostraine? I'm a skeletor and I want to hurry up and get swole.

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Let’s get on a touchy subject. Have you ever thought about taking steroids or taken them?

I’ve never thought of doing steroids, my goal is to be one of the best natural bodybuilder, so I don’t think I will ever do roids.

Are they prevalent in Ghana?

To best honest, I don’t know. I’ve never actually seen steroid in person and couldn’t tell you what they were even if they were in front of me. However, from what I know, there are no shops or anything where you can just buy them. To buy steroids you must go to some very scary places and I believe it’s expensive. Not a place for me to go.

why so mad?

>>40608424
I'm not mad, because I never blamed shit on 'muh genes are baaad' and decided every time I was coming up short, to find and fix whatever the fuck I was doing wrong.

There was a study done with athletes. They were asked if they could take a pill that would kill them in five years, but it would guarantee a gold medal, would they take it? The regular population had a 10% rate of yes. The elite among them had a 50+% rate of yeses. It's called the Goldman dilemma. Those that do great things put out great effort and do whatever it takes.

Your genes themselves aren't completely set in stone. There's genetic markers that change protein expression that can change from a variety of factors. You can change your genes through work. Through sheer force of mind, Google mindfulness and gene expression for proof.

Anytime you put your thumb up your ass and claim your genetics are the reason you're shit, you may as well stab yourself in the weak brain you have.

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>>40608535
honestly? Yes.

The only reason I dont is because the discipline of natty lifting keeps a lot of other areas of my life in check and I fear that when I go to steroids I will lose discipline in those other areas.

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>>40608538
Bla bla bla, meanwhile African is playing with rocks and blowing you away without steroids.

>Your genes themselves aren't completely set in stone.
>You can change your genes through work.
>change your genes through work.
HAAAHAHAHAHHAHA

He got so fucked by his cuck beta genetics, that made himself so believe that when he is asleep tinkerbell will visit him and change his genetics with a magic wand POOF POOF and everything will be alright from then.

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>>40608535
>>40608538
Have some white boy Hackenschmidt

Before steroids were invented.

Analysis of old hunter gatherer skeletons show muscle development comparable to elite athletes of today, except this was just randoms schmucks who didn't train for shit. They just lived and fucked around.

Genetics are not an excuse, we inherit an amazing genome. Being a lazy shit, eating like crap, and hanging around other weak minded lazy fools is the reason you're shit. Nothing else.

>>40608627
Not sure why you're trying to fuck with me.

Here's a Wikipedia article on the subject of epigenetic change
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics_of_physical_exercise

Any of my failings are my own damn fault, don't you dare try and say that I'm shit because I was born that way. I'm shit because my mindset and my work ethic. Nothing else.

>>40608627
>be african blackie
>do full body workouts every day with rocks and sticks glued together with cow shit
>don't take any supplements, just eat veggies every day and meat once a week
>one day local well isn't working
>go to local swimming hole for a drink
>die of dysentery

Wow, I'm so jealous of Africans and their great genes

>>40608378
>>subq
>That's into fat, right? How is it done? Will I need to get different needles?

Diabetic needle/syringe. Easy peasy.

>>40608627
some african aids patients sell off their roids and hgh they get for the muscle wasting to local meatheads, or at least part of the dose. small fraction of them though, so your point still stands though, they get swole by lifting hardened cow dung for reps

>>40608412
>pretending to stutter in a thread of autistic testosterone filled wannabe machos

>>40603371
You're better off using an oral kickstart then.

But thats just me im not a fan of frontloading test with long esthers.

>>40608849
Yes, play with steroidcalc

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>>40608805
>wannabe

i'll have you known im a full blown macho you little shit

>>40608418
>>40608805
>implying

Im a skeleton and want to bulk fast. I can buy cheap metanabol is it any good? Im like 1 year into gym but now i need fast gains for summer.
I dont want to inject anything and thats why i dont want test

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Are tricep rope/bar extensions the single most misused workout in the fucking gym?

I swear to fucking christ everyone from DYEL asians to fatty powerlifter man do these fucking things wrong, mainly with ropes.

You dont mimic getting out of a fucking pool. Youre not using your shoulders. Your isolating your fucking triceps. And why the fuck do old powerlifters have to slam the goddamn plate like they practically just let go of the damn thing after rep 5, looking like theyre about to absolutely shit themselves?

Pin day and all stressed with life and I have to listen to fucking Quasi Modo smashing the plates like his goddamn bell every 5th rep.

H-happy monday boys

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>>40609246
> want to bulk fast
>I dont want to inject anything

>>40609283
Ye nigga but i can just buy this metanabol and gain something too? Or am i wrong?

>>40609299
you're gonna get 0 gains from that.

>>40609258
>Looks like someone who has never set foot in the gym
>Feels the need to criticize those around him
Kek

>>40609299
you'll gain bucketfuls of water weight and some mighty titties

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>>40609299
Orals are generally shit without a Test base for bulking.

I think with Epi you could get pretty shredded though if you dont mind just being lean

>>40609315
sorry heres my new prog pic

>>40609258
Lmao that was a funny read

>>40609308
But why?
>>40609322
I dont care men im skeleton right now i can gain every single drop of water
>>40609332
I heard that too :/ But i just dont wanna inject anything. Orals are only way for me

>>40609358
Some orals will suppress your test without adding a test base which is a reason some avoid it, additionally others dont really have much of a benefit compared to the cost without it.

If you have a good lift routine and base going, just ramp up the carbs and keep lifting, throw some Epi in there for 8 weeks to get a harder look and some vascularity. You still got time before Summer.

>>40609395
I meant calories not carbs

is eating 3 mcchickens every 2-4 days ok

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What is a decent cruise dose? What do you guys usually run @ when you are cruising? 125mg/test a week? Or do you guys go to 200 and higher?

>>40609358
kill yourself retard

>>40609654
if I have to explain response rates one more time...

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>>40609735
>if I have to explain response rates one more time...

Sorry I been gone for a while, I assume you mean the variable nature of people reacting to the same mg's at different rates. But I was more so asking for what the fraudsters in here cruise at, or what they at least consider to be a cruise.

>>40609654
Usually 1cc. Either all test, or half test and the other half either mast, deca, or formestane depending on how I look/feel/sides. But I weigh less than 200lbs so that might be low.

Thinking about getting some hcg to increase my test levels. Any reason not to do this? Will it fuck up my natural levels?

>>40609755
a decent cruise dose is as high as you can get without going supraphysiological so you can recover properly while still maximizing the amount of test in your body.

it's an unanswerable question without bloodwork because 200 could get someone to 2000 ng/dl just like it could take you to 800ng/dl. likewise for 125

For those who have ran test e or c only cycles

How many days or weeks in until your lifts started going up?

>>40609892
That's not how juice works.

>>40609914
Thanks for explaining nothing

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>>40609863
Thank you, now pardon my continued idiocy but am I correct in thinking that the picture on the right is what I should be going off of? I've never used these needles before and I have to pull them back to empty the needle chamber before I swap to a smaller gauge.

Trying to get 65mg worth out of a 200mg/ml bottle.

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>>40610038
I'd go off the left. There's always going to be some oil left in the needle hub after you pin because there's so much waste space. Plus if some leaks or whatever you're good.

>>40610038
>using a slip needle with a lock syringe

Anon pls

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>>40610543
That looks like a luer lock needle. Looks like BD 25g

>>40610593
You would know better. I've only ever used slip. I thought it would have a more serious thread?

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Fuck I'm so full from eating 3 Chick-fil-A sandwich breasts.

>>40610629
On the needle? Nah, just 2 little wings to hold it.

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Some buddies are trying to convince me to go down the rabbit hole, does anyone have that infograph excel picture for a first time cycle?

I'm 5'8, 187
Bench 405x1
DL 500
OHP with DB @110x8

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>>40611434
>405x1

What are your goals?

>>40611488
I've got no vascularity at all. I guess a little bit of size but primarily lean out and gain vascularity. Being as short as I am I don't want to put on much more size

I went up to the Arnold Classic this weekend and felt like a child

>>40611557
EQ should be right up your alley then. Try 250/300 Test/EQ for 5-6 months.

>>40611667
Thanks, 5-6 months total? Like a 22 week cycle?

https://youtu.be/pgNiICW5Bqg
That was taken right after. Would have had him video the 405x1 but it was the first time I had done it so I wanted someone to help me if I got into trouble

>>40611434
>bench 405
>deadlift 500

the fuck?

>>40611719
My squat is even worse.. notice how I left that out

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>>40602045

>>40611753
Hahahaha, do this to the steroid subreddits too

>>40611692
>cycle

If you're on, you're on. It's healthier to just come down to a cruise dose than it is to take a bunch more drugs.

>>40611824
How would PCT differ from a cruise dose rather than a higher, 12 week cycle dose?

>>40611846
It wouldn't. Shutdown is shutdown

>>40611846
PCT is taking drugs to kick your nuts back into gear. Cruising just means coming down to a ~150-250mg dose of test, whatever you can take and have good bloodwork.

>>40611846
Misunderstood you, there's no difference really.

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Eyy I know it's probably not too impressive but I finally managed a 225 push press today. Been chasing that for a while, felt good. Also felt really fast, next max effort I think I have at least 235 if not 245.

Cut is also on schedule, gonna be shredded this summer. Pretty excited.

>>40611872
I misread yours as well, so you're saying do 5-6 months at 250/300 then drop to a cruise dose?

I've never taken any AAS before, isn't that a bit advanced?

>>40611973
Not exactly. You either drop into a cruise or you PCT and come off entirely for a few months. Plenty have just hopped on and stayed on, myself included.

Gearing up for my second blast and am looking for advice on how to structure it, I was thinking one of the following:
>750mg test e (first blast was 500) 16 weeks
or
>500mg test e/ 400mg deca 16 weeks
or
>500mg test e 16 weeks and 50mg dbol 8 weeks

Thoughts, opinions, or alternatives?

>>40612088
Do test/deca and finish with the dbol

No reason in particular

>>40612110
What should I expect with deca compared to a test-only cycle? Gains/sides/mood-wise.

>>40611973
>so you're saying do 5-6 months at 250/300 then drop to a cruise dose?

Yes

>isn't that a bit advanced?

Not particularly, EQ is a mild compound and 250mg isn't much beyond a cruise dose. If you put in the work you'll see serious gains.

If I stay a motel room, does my guest need to register too? Or does just the booker of the room have to register?

I've never stayed at a motel room before and I want to fuck a prostitute in one but I don't want any kind of paper trail proving the incident

>>40612138
look for a "guest friendly" motel

>>40612128
And if cruising wasn't an option, would you still do 5 months?

Also, do you know anything about Boldenone? That's what my buddy from the gym was telling me for vascularity

>>40612121
Slightly more bloaty, possibly. Slightly fuller, possibly. More growth, possibly. Individual response and all that good stuff. It's considered a low-sides feel good compound for mass packing, but also can be bloaty. Also supposedly helps your joints, and could potentially be bad for your heart long term both because collagen upregulation.

Never done it just parrotting fyi, but I'm sure someone who has/Google will confirm what I've said. Planning on test/deca on my next blast once I'm satisfied with my cut. Maybe dbol too haven't decided on the oral.

>>40612148
EQ= boldenone lol

>>40612138
your guest doesnt do anything
you can pay in cash, but they usually want to at least see a card

>>40612161
Lol that makes sense then.. thanks

Does anadrol worsen hair loss even if it's just a 4 week cycle

>>40612164
would paying in cash look suspicious?

>>40612168
Kek
No

>>40612176
no

>>40612177
Why Kek?

I'm gonna do it then

>>40612148
>if cruising wasn't an option, would you still do 5 months?

Yes, since EQ takes a very long time to kick in. If you *have* to PCT then I would say week 1-2 double-dose EQ and cut off the EQ after week 16.

>>40612191
>4 week orals only cycle
>Asking about hairloss
All the ingredients to a bait post

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>>40611725
Worse than that tattoo, friend? ;^}

>>40612203
Explain where is it bait

i wanna start low dose t3, ~25mg like every other day, worth it?

>>40612209
If you think squatting less than what I bench, then yes.

>>40612218
No. I answered your original question without trolling so fuck off, you got what you came for.

>>40612240
Is the cycle any better than doing it natty tho

>>40612233
If your squat is 25+% less than your Deadlift, it's a bracing and confidence issue. Especially with those trex arms of yours.

Benzos are the next best thing to Proviron and Anadrol. I can finally leave the house and be the 6'2" 230lb 12% Chad I've always wanted ;_;

>>40612248
No one here does oral only cycles, so that question won't be answered with experience.

>>40611434

literal midget

literal midget on steroids

>>40612251
Or a tendonitis/poor form/pinching nerve on my hip issue.

>>40612267
Basically yeah. But why can you deadlift if you got hip issues? Only in the last bit of ROM?

>>40612313
Because I've got shit form with my deadlift too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjU3_6YZzhY
I made that back in high school when TinyTrip called me out for estats.. the long warmup is because I was waiting for the song Cochise to start

Why do my limbs fall asleep so quickly and easily?

It's been like this since a few months after I started. Just strange more than anything else, wondering what could be causing it.

>>40612343
Wasn't expecting you to rep it out like that. Jelly of your strength brah, I've always had an easish time putting on muscle but also always been low-average strength for my weight.

>>40612371
Thanks, but as you can see in the video, there's not much hip involvement in my shitty form.

Is sugar the new boogeyman after the fat meme?

>rice pudding
>100cals 3.5g protein 16g carb per 100 grams.

Less calorie dense and better protein than BROWN rice, pasta and especially all types of bread. 20 more calories than sweet and regular potatos plainly baked.

Looks solid but

>bbbro datS SSSSSSIMPLE CARB
>TOO MUCH SUGAR ITS THE DEVILL
>YOULL INSULIN SPIKE YOURSELF N GET FAT AND DEFY THE LAWS OF PHYSICS
>NOT EVEN YOUR 350MG TREN AND 150MG WEEKLY SUPERDROL CSN PARTITION THAT

I fucking hate broscience and fitness jew meme propaganda to jew money

>>40612402
Depends on the kind of sugar. Fructose and Sucrose (which is glucose and fructose bound together) are processed and stored as liver glycogen, to which isn't necessarily great. Glucose from processing starches has a higher chance of being sucked into your actual muscle tissue to fuel gains directly and lifts later on as glycogen.

Dextrose isnt too bad, and pure glucose would be fine assuming you eat protein and shit with it.

Maybe try not to spike your blood suger too ofter as well if you're not on exogenous GH and tren lol

>>40612436
Wait, glucose and dextrose might be the same molecule. Doesn't change what I wrote though, for lifting purposes liver glycogen is mostly useless and will when stores are full you you start using that and storing excess glucose in your adipose.

>>40612465

What about maltose/milk sugar?

Being a fan of yogurt and shit thats what i primarily take.

>>40612492
I just know that because of its unique chemistry fructose and by extension sucrose.gets stored almost exclusively as liver glycogen, which can cause issues. Google is your friend.

>>40612465
Will not be burning fat*

I have some gray pants. I'm planning on wearing light green shoes with them. What color top should I wear?

>>40612343
Nice strength but that video started about 22 seconds too early.

>>40612648

whatever matches the pink inside your vagina

How much of a difference is there between clen and ECA? I'm ready to just get some clen if its any better because my stim tolerance is much too high for ECA already,

>>40612819

Clen actually burns fat.

Eca just suppresses appetite.

Clen makes me shaky and sometimes cramp but eca gives me supercharged palpitations so fuck that.

Also makes me doms easier even T my regular job

New thread pls idk how to do it

NEW

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>>40610685
LMao I ate 3 chick Fila spicy biscuits this morning they were DELICIOUS

>>40608627
Heavy rocks, breh