/fraud/ steroids general

fuck i got one question to ask.

how into perfect heart health, supplements and medications wise?

>>40450677
I got caught with weird test/epi ratio on an employment physical. Can I just say that I take TRT, or I have a medical problem that's none of their business?

been unsubbed from wow for months. cant remember when because i was fucked up on DNP when i unsubbed

thinking about resubbing. reee

>>40450703
genetics. you have old ass fucks dying at 60 of heart attacks, then you have the old BBers who blasted roids their whole lives and are still alive

>>40450966
welp im dead at 40 then.

>>40451008
lucky

>>40451040
i atleast get a 50/50 chance of suviring long enough to get impromptu heart surgery and then dieing 5 years afterwards due to ((complications)), time to shoot up as much roids as i can buy and quicken the effect. dont wanna die small

>>40450677
ALSO KNOWN AS SMALL DICK THREAD LETS GO BOYS

Are there any kind of steroids that help with running?

>>40451120
yes

>>40451120
EPO but it's a PED not an AAS

>>40451141
I'm wondering, could it be used short term, to get a good running base?

Or would it be need to be used indefinitely

>>40451161
My understanding is that is stimulants the production of red blood cells but once you stop taking it the levels return to normal.
Honestly this is something I have no experience or understanding of so hopefully someone else will chime in.

>>40451120
EQ, Deca

>>40450677
18
22
4 years on and off
270 bench, 405 deadlift, have not maxed out on squat but doing ATG 5 by 5 with 225 3 times a week to work on it


question is


HOW TO HGH IN THE STATES. I AM 18 ABOUT TO BE 19, IF I PUMP HGH I COULD GAIN AN INCH OR TWO, PLEASE HELP

>>40451258
lol

22% bf

what's your height

also i am also 19 and on fucking 15iu hgh eod, but not for height. are you mad.

>>40451318
6ft 1 irl 6ft 5 on 4chan (i swear, either anons are all tall as shit, or fucking liars, at 6ft 1 i am taller than like 85 percent of people)

my dad is 5ft 8, and my mom is 5ft 2, so i should be grateful

actually my dad is a fat manlet beta bitch, and my mom got divorced before marrying him so i might not even be his.


I just wish i was taller. It would make life easier, so do you know where i can get some, in the midwest?

>>40451378
yeah right more like 5'1 or you would not be seeking fucking hgh on a steroid forum... wtf

and no source talk allowed

>>40451318
>19
No wonder you're such a faggot, it all makes sense now

>>40451378

really, I am. Don't have a camera, so belive me or not, i don't care. I was a middle linebacker at 6ft 1, 220. If i was taller it would make it easier for me to stand out as a prospect. But i would maybe have to wait to pass the drug test.

So where did you get it?

>>40451413
>swollen glands in face
>>>"faggot"

>"no wonder why you're such a faggot"

>>40451427
bodybuilding.com

>>40451435
It's OK it's not your fault

I was a faggot when I was 19 too

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>>40449827

That's what I figured. I think it's technically Rx only which is kinda cool.

>>40450246
What for?

>>40451435


Okay, i am on their page now.

What would you recommend. I thought you couldn't sell hgh like this. Can you explain this to me?

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>>40450843
What job did they actually test that for?
Tell them to fuck off since they can't demand your medical records under hipaa and probably some other federal laws.

>>40451452
did you get your neg hole pozzed up? get any super toxic strains?

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Went to different gym then usual and found a kek worthy sign

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>>40451479
oh god plz be bait

>>40451459
Muscle gains or liver gains or performance gains or pumps or all of the above.

Read a Jim "Shill" Stoppani article about it and figured it was cheap enough to give it a go. Think some other old namefag like Chem or Aussie takes it too. Don't remember

>>40451502
sharpie on the sign saying BETCHA GET SWOLE WIT DOE

>>40451503

Look I am just a fucking idiot trying to lift heavy shit.

Where would i even go to look for something like this.

i am sick of being a dyel natty.

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>>40451503
dicks in my ass

>>40451519
Thought about sharpie writing in my number lmao

>>40451522
walk up to the biggest, gayest, most obvious roider in your gym and ask "can i have your toxic strain?"

he'll get the message

if he doesn't, further elaborate with "can you poz me up?"

>>40451459
>>40451504
He said TMG is the next creatine but then again he's a fake natty shill so who knows.

>>40451527
that image is how i heard about suicidal gay men.

>>40451533
fucking lol, just put down a list of emails from famous people.

@bradpitt
@arnold
ect.

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>>40451547
I lift at the YMCA

Just learned how to ride a bike with training wheels (test enth and var, first cycle) and now I wanna hop on a Ducati 1098.... critique my "possible" second cycle choices:

Option 1:
1-6 Tbol 50mg a day?
1-12 Deca 300mg / week
1-14 test enth 500mg/ week (I did 600mg a week of test my first cycle and got damn near 0 sides)
1-14 Equipoise 600mg a week

Option 2:
1-8/10 weeks of Tren Ace 350mg a week
1-8/10 weeks of test prop 350+/- mg a week
8-10 weeks long

What will cause more quality size gain? I'm thinking option 1 just cuz it has more gear, but if I can get similar results from option 2 I'd rather go that route. I'd need to find a source for caber before doing either one of those cycles tho, as I've yet to find any reputable ones...

>>40451593
>tbol
More like under dosed dbol or Winny amirite

>>40451593
the obvious solution is both options back to back

>>40451633
Yeah wasn't set on Tbol that's why I put the ? by it. I do have a guy at my gym who sells gear and I'm kind of buddies with him so he's not gonna lie to me. He's been using Tbol with his cycle and says it's legit...

>>40451643
Oh they'll both be done eventually don't you worry Gramps. I guess I should've asked which one should I do first? I felt amazing this entire cycle and just wanna see how much further these drugs can push me.

>>40451652
I'm sure it's a legit drug but I doubt it's tbol. But what do I know

Any oral kickstart is fine tbqh

Has anyone heard of AICAR

Apparently it improves your stamina/endurance even when you don't exercise

>>40451682
Yeah I liked the var I did this first time around. Maybe I'll do that again but at like 75-100mg instead of 50. I feel like a fucking kid in a candy store, I just wanna try them all.

>>40451378
>>40451258
jfc alex, did you get passed your ban again?

>>40451120
blood dope you fucking puss

>>40451731
>alex
>18 years old
>22% bf (aka 32% bf)
>needing hgh to grow past 5'1

>>40451752
>Implying its not the same writing style as alex
>Implying alex wouldn't just shit post dumb question for the sake of shit posting until mods forget about him.

>>40451750
Does blood doping have permanent effects

I only want to use PED's to get a good base of stamina

Like a 20 minute 5k

>>40451593
>second cycle
>let's pound almost 2 grams of gear

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Well looks more and more like my source exit scammed. Smh.

First time getting scammed on an order and it's for $200+ worth of stuff. Makes me sad since I'm poor af recently.

>>40451969
was the source at least from leddit

>>40452021
Yeah check the thread over there that just blew up. I guess I was overdue for getting burned, especially since I usually jump on new guys intro sales.

I miss FL so much.

>>40451969
I wonder what kind of profit you'd see from buying up someone's gear, rebranding it and selling it at cost for a bit and then once you run out have a flash sale and exiting... Big cost up front I guess.

Anyone here heard of GW 506516 (Cardarine)?

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>>40451836
what are you spec ops?

you should try running 5 miles under 35 mins, that would be more impressive if your going for preformance

>>40452131
In the military atm

Want to go for spec but my cardio stamina has always been fucking shit

>>40452108
SST mods require lab pics and full stock pics before allowing you to post. They are very thorough.

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>>40452154
protip lose the fucking gut, go for that 5 mile timed run.

and endless cardio. running atleast 5-8 miles a day 6 days a week mix of sprinting and distance.

dont forget to ruck, wear a wheight vest under your uniform to get the core used to load bearing.

if you want to get mentaly there. then do 200 of these as your warm up before your workouts regardless of what you do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxQT-wZdP28

follow your dreams but for the love of odin shoot above and beyond the score.

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>>40452237
Do some people post this as a meme and do some people take it seriously ? I don't understand.

>>40452275
there are many ways to workout for your goals buddy.

some of it may help you.

atleast try out the 8 count burpees to get tougher.

idk about the running its all up to you to find out what makes you faster. *cough* sprints

Anyone else cruise or trt?
About to start first cruise period prob with 150mg/w test e. Have seen everything from 100-300mg. Wuts deal. ai use?

>>40452299
The idea of a cruise is that you use a dose below the threshold for needing AI.

>>40452322
Is it possible to have total test in a normal range but being exogenous aromatise too much estrogen, like having 500 total T with 70 estrogen or some shit. What then?

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>>40452275
Everything on this site is simultaneously both a meme and not a meme.

Shroedingers forum.

Been talking to heroin var ex again god she makes me painfully turned on

Just finished my first cycle 500/week. Wondering if I should just to my pct or cruise at 250/wk for a while. Anyone got advice

>>40452375
250/wk isnt a cruise. Unless maybe you so happen to be 250 pounds. Read moar

Can't remember if I'm supposed to pin today, or tomorrow.

So should I err on the side of more test or less?

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>>40452355
I... don't actually know. I've never heard of that. Most people don't have problems until they go supraphysiological.

>>40452364
Don't do it, homie. You're happy, don't fuck it up.

>>40452405
How could that possibly happen?

>>40452413
>>I... don't actually know. I've never heard of that. Most people don't have problems until they go supraphysiological.
lol

i had low test and estrogen was like ~41 where the normal range was something like 18-42

so yea

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>>40452237
>8 miles a day

>>40452400
>>40452400
I mean... most places say around 250 is normal for a cruise. Maybe you should read more?

>>40452471
I cruise at 250 with no sides or sexual changes.

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>>40452413
I don't know just tell me what to do I really don't care much either way

Consider yourself a coin Im flipping. You have the power to affect my future, use it well

>>40452458
well ideally running a total of 30-40 a week, because you'll probably be doing that at the school houses just from one location to another.

the 5 mile run time isnt a meme. its a good gauge of where you need to be and a standard for a few.

just research what you want to go into and dont even bother applying unless you can make the Exit past scores.

idk all depends on what your going for.

>>40452490
Go back with her and enjoy hating your life.

>>40452506
Are you spec ops?

>>40452512
Nice try but I don't have any exes

Tell me whether to pin tonight or tomorrow dammit!

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Back is starting to look good guys

>>40452471
Your body should actually get into the normal range of test. Unless you don't care about the longevity of your kidneys or heart. If 250mg with blood work puts you in the normal high range then sweet. Everyone's different. 100mg is the start that puts most people around 400-500. 200mg would possibly be over 1000

>>40452518
pffft fuck no, im thinking of going military for it but i probaly wont.

meh ive done some research for it and ive got a few friends who are ex spec for random reasoning and its a whole lot more pain and struggle than you can imagine.

the 5 mile timed run
rucking
8 count burpees is what i know for sure.
its there advice but they dont recomend people follow any of it to the T

At 23, my total free T is 274. Endo said not low enough to TRT. Got gyno (I shouldn't I'm 5'11 and 160lbs, 10% bf). Can't get new endo cause military. Should I inject myself? Or should I wait.

Anyone heard of ITPP?

>>40452531
Pin tonight brah


Is it necessary to use HCG when using 300-400mg Test a week? Im already on cycle and havent felt the need but figured Id check

>>40452490
Ok but be honest, assuming you know absolutely nothing about this person, would you rather have to deal with a pissed off Picture 2 or a pissed off Picture 5?
Remember you have to forget this is isley.

>>40452572
You're gonna be suppressed, if that's what you're asking.

And I will, anon. Thank you.

>>40452586
I mean if I dont use HCG on cycle, will it have any lasting effects or will I rebound back to normal with a solid PCT and on-cycle AI use?

And of course my man who doesnt love a good pinnin

>>40452576
5 but not 6. He looks to have made some lbm gains along with the fat between 2-5, but now he's just making fat gains.

man, I really want to start juicing. I've read the wiki n shit but I'm still such a pussy. Idk if I want to get huge huge though, so is test e pretty mild stuff?

Can't you just start the shit then try to strongarm a doctor into placating your steroid use by that "do no harm" bullshit where they should feel inclined to help you not fuck your life up even though you're gonna do steroids regardless?

>>40452600
Honestly, I don't think anyone really knows for sure.

You could use hcg just the last few weeks in largish dosages as a wake up call for your nuts. There's some Doctor approved pct people keep posting with that, but it was for long term BnC recovery, not a cycle

>>40452622
maybe that would be desirable if random retarded 80 iq meatheads did not know more about steroids and their risks than actual "doctors"

>>40452638

yknow I read that in that underground steroid guide but I find that hard to believe

>>40452638
>>40452650
They dont know more, doctors are just trained to err on the side of caution, and are more inclined to help you not die than to help you ascend to greatness

>>40452518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyrkidJJjb4&index=2&list=PLj0tokIolSsLv-WOv3qswCLH2D5Kcd13U

heres a good video for atleast the mental side of it.

>>40452655
>parents are doctors with a yacht worth 10x as much as your house

>"you know what bodybuilders do, right? they inject steroids called growth hormone to make them grow" and then some shit about how they actually take away your height (lol). not stunt growth but take away height

>"i like the look you have. it's not a steroid user look. you have veins everywhere. this one guy we know uses steroids, he looks like a blob with no definition."

>Two weeks into Test e cut cycle
>Usual diet
>Have gained 4 lbs, strength is up but look noticeably bloated

I started at 18% at now Im at 19%, and maybe this was the mistake. I'm going to up my cardio and calorie restrictions this week but if I dont start to lose weight, I think Im going to start PCT early and diet hard for a month or two until Im lower BF% and then start again...

Cheapest source of Ephedrine in the US?

I know of bronkaid but is there anything on amazon or something?

Thanks

>>40452720
I should mention I would keep running Var ED

How do people even get caught with steroids?
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3745740

Especially if you're a cop, don't you know the law? Don't you know how to not get your house searched? I mean how the fuck is it even possible to get caught? I don't get it.

>he injects 500-700 milliliters into his deltoid
Wow this article is bullshit.
Remind me to never trust the media again. Every topic of which I am an expert or even semi-knowledgeable, I find that the media's portrayal of said topic is either ill-informed or just straight up fucking wrong, laced with untruths, misrepresentations, or misunderstandings by the author.

>>40452786
Bahahaha mothefucker injecting more than half a damn liter of oil. He's gonna leave humanity behind or die trying

>>40452786
>Two years later, in 2005, he was caught and forced to resign. He spent 23 days in jail.

oh no

but if you have a job like a cop or firefighter usually those rat bitches tell on you, or you roid rage and they recognize it.

i always hear about cops and firefighters getting caught, no one else. firefighters way way less than cops though

>>40452820
>rat bitches
as in co workers or boss. at least that is what i have read.

like this one case where they controlled deliveried a fucking cops steroid raws. HAS to be because he's involved with law enforcement and other LEOs saw his obvious juicing. if they see a random person they dont care but being a cop is different

>>40452836
thats what happens you fuck up and they dont like you so they put your ass up for testing since they know for sure that your way to big and lean to be at that height anyways.

people at the DEA are even getting caught doing it. more like ratted.

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>>40452742
Here's a butt so my question gets more attention

holy fuck I just spent the last 2 minutes coughing after a regular old vg injection of test e only

no blood came out post injection no nothing so I don't think I nicked a vein which is usually the explanation... weird stuff

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Right lads I think I'm going to bite the bullet and buy some GW 506516 / Cardarine

Hopefully this will help with my cardio

First ped I've done

Some you need some kind of hormone therapy or whatever for this kind of thing or is it just take it and stop?

>>40452886
Nah.

>>40453019
Are you gay?

That's a-class booty right there

>>40453019
What are you up to these days?

>>40453066
depictions of 4 year old anime children are more his thing

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>>40452413
I know bb I won't fall for the great sex meme. New gf is best friend Kahuna is in love. Pic related she fine too and she knows how to throw it back.

>>40452836
Glands spot me some gear cmon Im 90% sure I just got took.

>>40452836
Any other professions where it would be relevant, besides the obvious sports-related professions?

>>40453147
construction and mechanical to prevent overuse injuries and better padding for when they get hit from random shit.

but there all fat fucks who dont workout so who cares.

>>40453179
I meant professions where your boss would report you for suspected steroid abuse

>>40453333
ohh pfffft not to my knowledge.

If you were to take PED's for a few months and do a lot of cardio

Would you keep the cardio gains when you stop using them?

Or would they literally disappear and you go back to the same level of cardio as before you started

>>40453343
Do you use finasteride grandpa?

>>40453408
nah i dont have hair issues becuase im natty.

my family isnt prone to hair problems either. that and its so healthy all i need is hot and cold water to make it look good.

as masT

>>40452995
GW causes cancer bro

LMAO WTF

A hit of lsd is fucking like $10-15 WTF

Holy shit that is CHEAP

>>40453527
Last a good twelve hours too. A literal trip.

>>40453527
Why are cool chemicals like that banned. Fuck America.

>>40453719
how the fuck is it that cheap though like wtf?

when my glands are better i am gonna trip my ass off on LSD, get out of my depression.

or wind up killing myself. lol. never done lsd before obviously

I've done 4 test-e only cycles, what should I do next? Honestly thinking about tren just for the libido gains. Will tren wreck your hair if test didn't?

>>40453985

10$ is the average street price for a hit

Psychedelics are also not a cure. If you treat it like a miracle drug you might fall into existential dread when you realize it's not, or become a deluded retard

>>40454065
uhh i have never even done any recs outside the basic bitch stuff that every 13 year old kid has done

i just think from reading about it, how it "changes the way you think" and "change your world perspective" or whatever, it would be cool to do it when i deem myself better from this glands shit.

>>40450677
I need an advice: i have never took gear, but lately i started a new job working in a farm and i work for 4 to 10+ hours a day i eat about 3k cal a day but still when i get home and go to the gym can't workout properly and feel tired, i tried to add in some cal but i start to gain fat; tried some stimulants/pre-wo but still my brain get super on but my body can't keep up. question is: will running a pretty much low dose of something help? don't want to manage lots of sides and, for now, don't want to gain too much weight.

How long foes /fraud/ run tren?
10 weeks max or more?

>>40454139
Train before work

>>40453985
> depression
vitamin D3 helped with my physical effects of it worth a shot to fuck with that or other substances. but if you got an overriding reason then good fucking luck.

if your depression is as bad as mine was then you'll probably think this is on par with yours.


unless you wake up with the urge, thought, and even think of the plan every single morning before you get out of bed then i can assure your in deep shit buddy.

id like to know why kind of teenage angst is getting at you besides the glands
>>40454139
bitch to me latter when your running 12-14 hour shifts and you get zero notice of the change aside from a phone call when your home.

trust me you have time at the end of your day to workout. all you need is 6 hours of sleep and 3 pots of coffee to shrug the sorness out of your way.

>>40451708
funny stuff for athletes but no magic pill still, long term sides unclear for now

>>40454139
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyrkidJJjb4&index=2&list=PLj0tokIolSsLv-WOv3qswCLH2D5Kcd13U

also you need motivation. or you need to fix your diet.

2 days until i get my melanotan i think

can't wait to not be a pasty ass fucking jewkid. need that tancard so bad.

>>40454187
>>id like to know why kind of teenage angst is getting at you besides the glands
none whatsoever. lol.

its just like, i feel as if after being cripplingly depressed for almost a year, something like LSD might help me get back into not feeling fucking miserable all the time.

like rewire my thought pattern from feeling like a piece of shit from the glands which are gonna be gone soon, to how i used to feel.

>>40454430
Probably not. Maybe. It can help sort your perspective and your priorities out if you feel lost.

You kinda need to be able to sift through the bullshit that is your own personal mindspace. A trip for me is kinda like organizing a cluttered PC desktop; it's like getting realigned.

It won't fix issues itself, probably some true reflection and behaviorial therapy would be best for that. I'm fairly certain you lack the fortitude to actually self r fleet honesty without falling into a negative mindset though.

you seem too negative in general to really benefit from psys. You should try it out though and prove me wrong. Biggest thing to remember when it gets too heavy is that you just ate drugs and just because you think something doesn't mean that thought reflects reality.

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>>40451479

>>40454430
> to how i used to feel.

this is how people become drug addicts but LSD aint no normal drug.

no idea dude try it out and tell us how it goes. i hear of doctors prescribing MDMA to PTSD vets.

http://www.mdmaptsd.org/infographic.html

>>40454451
lol i assure you i have had plenty of time to "reflect" over these past 8 months sitting in my room doing nothing.

>you seem too negative in general to really benefit from psys
>you seem too negative in general
can't. imagine. why. :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
:)
:))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

hmmm from male model who literally could not stop outside without getting hit on, to a disgusting piece of shit, hmmmm :))))) why so negative :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

>>40454460
well i want to try everything at least once while i am still young that won't fuck me up too badly.

don't want to go through my life without having tried all those drugs.

Anyone got experiencewith sarms? Are they a meme?

>>40451593
do madbulk on first cycle and then cut with tren, also dont forget caber/prami

>>40454451
>>Probably not. Maybe. It can help sort your perspective and your priorities out if you feel lost.
do you think it would help change back my instinctual behavior from being a cuckold on purpose, to before i got disgusting?

>>40454499
>Are they a meme?
yes

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>literally no joke sleep through entire first 5 weeks of calculus 2
>keep getting dirty looks from professor
>teach myself entire 5 weeks worth of shit in a few hours
>hes gonna be butthurt as fuck when the rest of the retarded ass class fails again and i get 100 after sleeping through the whole thing
i need tendies

or this wow subscription

even without lsd i have come to a realization. playing wow and hearing my family fucking screaming like retards and being mentally ill, is better than sitting in my dorm hearing girls moaning being fucked.

>>40454533
are you a virgin?

>>40454548
hes a jew so ask his cousin

>>40452686
can confirm. was 6 and a half feet before hgh, am now swole sideshow dwarf by trade and oompa loompa cosplayer in my free time

>>40452786
>500-700 milliliters into his deltoid
WHATEVER IT TAKES

>>40454548
I dont count flapping a pathetic not even fully hard low test dick around inside some slut on whatever drugs for 20 seconds, so i would say so

It is retarded because like, i went from not wanting/being able to fuck anything, to these stupid FUCKING glands.

Mdma is the party drug that makes sluts horny as fuck right. She was looked happy as fuck for no reason and her eyes looked normal i guess but like the shit she was saying made no sense and she got confused and couldnt answer basic random questions. And i literally did not even do shit/make moves, it was like she was hornier than i am on tren

So yeah pathetic and doesnt count. Ill count it when i actually fuck a grill when i have more testosterone in my body than said grill

>>40454595
Lel, spot injections for size
>>40454560
Wat
>>40454533
>wow subscription
Btw i got bored in less than 30 seconds no joke... nice $15 i will never get back...

>>40454583
When that conversation happened abiut steroids, the thing that led up to it was like
>i come up from gym pumped
>dad with smug look:"i know what you do"
>me:"what"
>him:"i know what you DO"
>me:"ok what do i do"
>him:"aesthetics. Yes, you have veins everywhere, you are going for aesthetics, not like the strength guys"

He keeps fucking doing this to me like what i posted yesterday "so what do you USE"

It's like he kinda knows i am on gear (and that all the money he is giving me is going to mr chinaman) but doesnt give a shit since im not a prissboy fucktoy anymore

>>40454689
>one time grill my age comes over to my families yacht, couple months before i started gear
>she is slutty daughter of family friend that brought her with her
>somehow everyone else goes for a trip on one of our other boats (suck my dick we have 3) and we are alone
>didnt know she was a slut at the time, became obvious quick tho
>starts talking abiut how she does gymnastics and how flexible she is
>"hey can i ask you a question"
>"uhh yeah"
>"when you stretch, what do you do with your *hee hee* junk"
>this turns into a 5 minute conversation about my dick with her hands too high up on my leg and her stupid fucking legs against mine
>wind up not doing shit

I can write a fucking book about all the opportunities i have passed up

>>40454689
>spot injections for size
essentially anabolic synthol from the sheer oil volume kek

or insanely underdosed gear, like 1-2mg/ml

not sure which is more heinous

>>40454757
Same here. Am no rich (implying) handsome (IMPLYING) jew so none are as extreme or hilarious but to this day the memory of some of the lays I could have had but was to aloof and/or beta for pulling off haunts me.

>feel alpha as feck, life is good, yeehaw
>brain: hey have an uncalled for physically petrifying ptsd flashback to when you essentially ignored a blinking TAKE ME NOW IN ALL HOLES neon sign repeatedly you flaming faggot
>suffer for half a minute on the border of crying
>moment passes, high test mindset back in place instantly as if nothing happened, yippiedoodle all is well

Like Scrooge being visited by the Ghost of Past Missed Boinking lel

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Anybody used Mast E instead of P?
I'd rather get some E simply because my next cycle is 20 weeks pretty much all long esters, and 12 weeks of mast to finish, but some people tell me it's either not effective or usually fake, anyone have experience with it?
It also works out a bit cheaper and 20 weeks is fairly expensive as is

Pic so someone notices me

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>>40455089
Heres the course btw, now thinking of 16 weeks, still plenty of time before I start so lots of time to fiddle, but this is the base

Weeks 1-16
Test e 500mg

Weeks 1-16
Eq 800mg

Weeks 4-16
Mast e 600mg

Weeks 4/6-16
Tren a/e 500mg

Not sure if 10 or 12 weeks for the tren, and only ever done a but seems silly to have only 1 short ester, any tips?

>>40455131
Maybe should kick off with 4 weeks drol or something?
Idk seems like a slow few weeks

>>40455147
that is why you frontload

>>40454499
Great for girls :)

>>40455154
Frontloading test e is a meme, esters don't work like that

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>>40455163
yeah when you inject them the esterases take exactly 3.5 days or whatever the fuck the half life is to cleave the ester.

that's why when using enanthate you feel like shit except for those specific 4.5 day periods (~half life) after injection.

and why test u must also be injected every day. because you will feel like shit until the magical wisdom of the esterases know that it has been exactly 16.5 days since the needle entered your ass. then and only then will the ester be cleaved and the hormone be active.

that is also why this graph makes sense. it shows that enanthate ester really just does not do anything until this guy says so

>>40455188
What's the best steroid calc senpai

>>40455208
steroidcalc.com i guess

even has shit like dnp

>>40450677
what do you guys think of blend Test E 200mg + EQ 200mg, as first cycle ? i wanted to go 400 mg test only but my friend is pretty much set on this

>>40455131
This ends up at around 5mls every 3.5 days, how you gonna fit all that in?

Did a 10 week blast then cruised for about 3 months, without a doubt the best 6 months of my life.
That was over a year ago and even though I promised myself I was done (atleast until I hit mid-late 20s), the urge to hop back on is ever-present.

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>>40455267
>steroids "arent" addictive

>>40455267
>Did a 10 week blast
xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>40455269
I woudlnt say addictive, I just really really want to take them again.
Its like how I went skiing for the first time a couple of years ago and ever since then Ive wanted to go again.

>>40455269
>walk barefoot everywhere ur whole life and cut the fuck out of your feet
>try shoes one day
>"man i want to use shoes forever!!"

>SHOES "AREN'T" ADDICTIVE

>>40455282
There's physical addiction and mental addiction.

>>40455290
This is perfect

>>40455293
there's put my cock in your mouth and gag faggot

>>40455188
That shit is so convenient. I have no need for calendars and dates anymore, I just pin a certain ester and wait for the effects to hit to know a certain timeframe has passed.

>gf birthday: sixteen test u pins from now
>my own: twelve test e pins
>next meeting for work: six test e pins and depending on estimated travel time an additional test p pin
>next grocery run for dinner with friends: two test c pins

SO FECKIN USEFUL

>>40455403
KEK

you know something is quality shitposting when it would make perfect sense to my normie roommate if I read it to him out loud

What could motivate a fat retard to not flush his toilet? I think he is either eating his own shit or trying to get high off the fermented fumes like you see in those /pol/ pics of blacks

Or he is actually enjoying the smell. If you open his door the foyer area and whole upstairs will smell like fermented shit.

And coincidentally we keep getting sick with bacterial infections... hmmmm...... literally the third time i am sick in 1 month. And it's not just me these so called people always get it first and spread it to me

And the SAME THING happens to the people in my grandparents house, whose house is full of bird shit in every crevice.

It's almost like having a house full of shit makes you get sick?

>>40455496
>being so rich you have so little problems that you stop giving a damn and deteriorate into worse subhumans than poor niggers are commonly assumed to be

self fulfilling prophecy kek

Ok because no one answered I'll ask again

Cheapest source of Ephedrine in the US?

I know of bronkaid but was wondering if you could buy it off Amazon or something

>>40450677
Fuck what OP says, I do what I want
Also I hate redit. Where can I get source?

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>>40455852
Before I look more retarded than I am, I did already check Amazon but half the shit on the front page doesn't list ingredients when you search

>>40455874
Ask the big vascular guy at your gym

Finishing up a 16 week test cycle, want to go onto a test E/mast E cruise.

Bloodwork looks fine.

Anybody else done this, and at what dosages? I'm basically just trying to sus out what the numbers should be here.

>>40455911
why would you be able to buy a scheduled/restricted stim off amazon tho

buy bronkaid or use dmaa faggot

>>40455944
I figured if drug stores sell it Amazon or some other online retailer might.

I was hoping to get something without the guaf, that's all.

>>40455935
There's no real answer. It depends on your personal goals and tolerance first and foremost.

That said, for 'cruising' you want low dose of each. So... Do low dosages.

I dunno mast well because I've never injected it, but 150-200 test/ 100-150 mast a week seems like it would be a fine high end """cruise""" . Hopefully someone else will chime in.

>>40455935
Cruise on 300mg test fgt give your body a break, mast is pointless under 500, 400 minimum and that's way above cruise

>>40455935
150 each at the most, some even do only half of the mast for a bit of QoL without much added hassle.

lel someone tell me if this is b8

>>40453248

>>40455911
Search buy ephedrine/ephidra on Google, 90% of the time it'll get through the mail, occasionally it'll be stopped but its pretty cheap, that or buy some method and smoke it, same thing, great for cutting

>>40456010
Not the same thing

Ephedrine has a much shorter half life, especially on high protein diets.

I'm an insomniac I need my stims to wear off or I can't sleep and make gains.

But I'll check Google directly thanks. Was there a specific brand you've bought before?

>>40456025
Tbh I got it of a guy who cooks neth in QLD, but my gf buys it online, no idea what brand

>>40456034
Text your gf and tell her some retarded fuck on the internet NEEDS TO KNOW RIGHT NOW where she buys her semilegal stimulants

Thanks mate

>>40456110
Yes

Not telling you no, but it is risky

>>40456117
Thanks mate, sorry for the duplicated post

>>40456140
Google is your friend.

Testosterone doesn't close growth plates, but estrogen does.

I'm not sure if test or dht is the primary androgen when it comes to osseous tissue. So do your research and post back if you find anything.

If it is dht, which I suspect, then you want to run compounds like proviron, trenbolone and mast, with low test (100-200mg) to avoid any estrogen problems. I wouldn't crash e2 purposely, but definitely be o the low end if in doubt.

>tfw still no update about that one source potentially selling bunk shit
canada is a meme

Do any of you guys box or are you interested in boxing?

Also, any of you Aussiecunts take TMG?
>>40450246

>>40456049
Are you Aussie?
It's 11 famalam shes zzzz

guys help, i have switched on deca test e for 3 or so weeks (was doing testp/trene/mast for 10 weeks beforehand), however seeing no gain in size but my strength has increased alot, wondering if my gear is bunk cant tell right now because doctors appointment in a few days.

>>40456333
The fuck you want me to do about it

>>40456333
>switched to an enanthate and a decanoate ester
>why don't I feel anything after 3 weeks??

>>40456333
train for size not fro strentgh then?

i have to cut my blast to a trt cruse dosage since my 6 month bloods a due.
i am on 150mg since 2 weeks and i have this overwhelming need to sleep the whole fucking day. i am so tired i can take ephedrin and go right to bed and sleep.
is this my body telling me i overdid it the last few month?

Are people like Richard pianos correct when they say taking something like 300mg test for the first few weeks and gradually increasing will give better gains? Common sense tells me that it'd be more sensible to front load or to just take a regular amount than under dose your first shot.
Does anyone have any idea/tried both methods

>>40455935
200test and 200mast has been my standard cruise dose for a few years now. Just monitor your lipids and prostate health. Mast could fuck those up.

>>40456246
Used to (amateur level classic and pub contest bareknuckle kek), now just spar classic with a mate cause older and on top a badly healed injury. Silly fun though, also great cardio and tri/forearm gains over time.

>>40456345
>why don't I feel anything after 3 weeks??
usually takes about 3/4 weeks for sides to kick in and general fuller look

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>>40456354
We'll desu he's a professional roid user so I'd put some value on his method

How fast does cialis work? Do you take it every day, or every 36 hours?

>>40456493
as a sexual aid: 60-90mins before you want it to do its magic

as a vasodilator for other reasons: do not there are better ones

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>>40456421
lmao

>>40456519
Okai thx

2 vials each of test and tren + pins and some orals in aus domestic checked luggage, is this worth the risk or should i just express post to myself, lads?

>>40456391
What kind of drills do you do on the heavy bag? (ex: 1 round jabs only, 1 round hooks only etc)

Also, have you used a slip bag or a slip rope before? Meme?

>>40456717
Depends greatly on goals of that certain drill/training day, a constant that has always served me well for general purpose is HIIT with high intensity round being just raw hit power and rage and low intensity being technique and focus on flawless aim and delivery. Change after every round (1min. power hook/2min. technique hook, 1min. power jab/2min. technique jab and so on) or mix and match as long as each gets its turn at both intensities, that is up to preference.

Meh, have used both, kinda gay and overhyped but they do have some merit it seems. Personally never saw the need to make it a serious thing but a few lads at my old ring got great results. Try it yourself I guess.

>>40456920
Yeah I've done similar. I started trying rounds where I emulate certain fighters. Not in technique or form, but in philosophy. Like I'll have a round where I pretend I'm Hearns so I'll drop lots of long jabs at different angles and drop hard rights or I'll pretend like I'm Roy Jones and only throw 3+ combinations while circling both directions etc

And I've used a slip bag but I'm with you, kinda meh. I might extend a rope across my backyard for slipping while moving though as that seems to be more my style (as opposed to standing still and slipping)

I'm too old for the ring now so it's all just for shits and giggles anyways

I havent had itchy or sore nipples so far, but had some high e2 symps last night and took an Asin. Woke up this morning with greatly reduced bloat, but I feel like there is a change in the feeling of the density and consistency of the fat around my nipples. I wouldnt exactly say theyre lumps, but it feels odd. And even though Im cutting, my BF% has gone up a point to 19%

Couple questions:
Im going to take some nolva today and probably the next day or two to see if the consistency changes

However, and I knew this prior to my cycle, I gain and store fat easily. I auromatise easily, and this cycle was intended to lose fat.

Seeing as I have only pinned three times so far, should I just drop the cycle, PCT, continue running Var for 6 weeks, and come back to the cycle at 15% BF?

>>40457300
Ive done some more reasearch and I feel like using the Var by itself at my BF would be pointless.

My fear is that as Im cutting weight with Test e at 300-400 a week, I develop gyno anyways because Im starting at too high of a BF%. I love the way test makes me feel but Ive had gyno surgery once and Ill be damned if i get it again.

After week one Im already having to use 12.5 Asin EoD to keep down bloat.

Am I just being paranoid? If I restrict harder on my calories and up the cardio with a lower dose of Test, then physically I have to be cutting fat right?

>>40457373
>>40457300

Run test a little lower at 250mg pw and just eat below maint, you wont lose any muscle.

Dont worry about bloat. Its just water weight, not fat. Youll lose any bloat when you come off of cycle. Just worry about gyno, acne etc

Can reduce bloat by drinking more water and eating less carbs also

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Any tips for digestive health? Years of opiate abuse have completely fucked any regularity for me. I would like to have bowel movements more regularly.

Also, coming off tren really fucks with me. I feel like I look like I don't even work out.

>>40452720
How much test are you running?

>>40457520
FIBER

>>40454499
Started an ostarine cycle 6 weeks ago and bought my first testosterone yesterday.

I guess it did help a bit with keeping my strength and retaining muscle during a harsh cut but so would have test.

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>>40457300
>>40457373
>starting above 20%
>cutting cycle
kys

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Have I made it when instasluts start requesting to follow me and its unsolicited?

>>40457520
Psyllium husk is supposedly pretty good. If you're willing to spend a lot on probiotics you could do vsl#3 or whatever it's called where it's basically prescription strength stuff. Other than that applecider vinegar and other probiotics and stuff to strengthen your gut biome. Oh and prebiotic fiber.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy3rcoz-8rU doesnt this girl look like a mix betwwen david laid and jeff seid

>>40457154
Lol yeah done that too, only for fun and not honest training but it does teach you a thing or two about your own style, especially if a huge cunt like me tries to emulate featherweight champions for keks.

My point exactly. You will be the best at avoiding semi-static shit moving in a pattern, how convenient. If the guy you fight against is not 500lbs and has a broken ankle and a robotic series of jabs how useful will that be. Good for general agility if you lack it though so no direct h8 from me.

God I'm pathetic, I'm relatively new to pinning and I have a fear of needles, I got over it and "stuck it in" but I hit something in my quad the other day and now I'm back further than when I started, I cant even break the skin with the pin anymore I just freeze up after that one experience.

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>>40451479
>doesnt know about BB threads

you have to create a bodybuilding.com forum thread like everybody else asking for it dude. is it your first time here?

>>40457699
I'm on ostarine while cutting on test too

Can't tell much of a difference but who knows

>>40458025
Yeah that's what I'm thinking. I'm slow moving back and forth slipping so at the very least I might train some muskels and muskel memory.

>>40458031
Stop being a fag and shove it in your ass dude.

Why the fuck do noobs do quad injections, it's so easy to fuck up. Your ass is one giant muscle, if you fuck that up you're a literal retard and should just off yourself

Heading to the doc rn, hopefully gonna score some sweet sweet accutane for this ungodly cruise acne. Wish me luck, friendos.

If he asks, I'm just gonna say I was on the GOMAD diet and stressed out from uni (I did break out real bad when I was on GOMAD like 5 years ago haha).

>>40458031
Watch this video and watch how much of a retard Bostin is with injection and then realize how much of a pussy you are being.

Short of shoving a 5 inch needle into your heart you aren't going to fuck anything up

https://youtu.be/Zk0ODrja7YQ

>>40458134
>getting scripts for things in 2017

>>40458134
I had cruise acne at 150mg

Upped to 200mg and now smooth sailing. Moods legit and bloods only slightly high but still "natty" levels

>>40457497
Yea I started week 1 at 250 and bumped up to 400 this week, gonna taper back to 250. The only carbs I get now are from dried fruit and nuts, but I think Im just gonna go back to strict keto. THanks.

>>40457864
Started at 17% and there wasnt even a number 20 in my posts, but thanks for the solid advice

>>40457520
Tried mast/EQ before?

>>40458179
>Started at 17%
so you can't even lose weight right

wow

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13 weeks into my cycle

Test E @ 500mg
Deca Durabolin @ 800mg
Anadrol @ 75mg / day and 25mg anavar

Just added Tren Ace @ 200mg

Feeling like a god brehs

>>40458166
Insurance, my man, and the Doc visit itself is free. I'd rather be hassled and pay a pittance than get UG for hundreds of dollars a month.

>>40458170
I just transitioned from 500mg to 200mg/week and within about 3 weeks my chest and back became a goddamn pizza. Not sure what to even do hormone wise, because it's not like my estro is too high.

>>40458223
Do you just regurgitate shit that you see said on forums?

Do you have any idea how many BBs and lifters start a cycle at higher BF%?

Do you understand that increasing Test, monitoring estro, and decreasing calories=weight loss?

Do you provide anything of value or just
>one sentence quips
and Meme logic?

>>40458260
'Mirin those head gains

>>40458260
poverty genetics

>>40458260
What's your head routine? Thinking x F?

>>40458260
stop glands

>>40458289
I understand that you have a very poor understanding of time and gear management

and a poor grasp on the concept of not stuffing your fat fucking face because you intentionally started a "cutting cycle" and still gained fat

you should give up

>>40458260
Are you related to tito ortiz

>>40458107
>muskels and muskel memory
germanfag or arnie accent reference i am not aware of?

>>40458283
>Just changed from crazy high test to normal test
>For some reason my body doesn't like it

Dude.

You're fine. Hormonal fluctuation is what's causing backne, not bad blood levels. It'll even out and you'll be fine. Don't start shoving accutane in your face and turn a non-existent problem into a real one.

>>40458160
>Rubbing that dirty ass towell on his injection sites.
>Just waving his arm around with a needle jutting out of his bicep
JFC

>>40458355

No I'm just retarded.
I typed it once on my phone (making fun of Arnold, you're right) and now it sometimes autocorrects muscle to muskel and it makes me laugh because I'm dumb like that.

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>>40458328

>>40458389
I absolutely love that video. It's great on so many levels.

>>40458260
this looks like the male version of those fake pedo bobhead photoshopping threads on /b/

>>40458397
10/10

for some reason mine often corrects canola to cunt so that makes texting the gf a grocery list super fun

>>40458465
Using "cunt oil" in everyday conversation now, thanks for that

Whatever happened to Yolo and Cheerbro and Chem? And those other fags that were on around this time of day

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>>40458260

>>40451969
Please tell me it wasn't catalyst.

>>40458522
yolo probably got arrested for pedophilia

cheerbro started university and kinda just faded away

Chem visits once or twice a month. spends most of his time on fitmisc

>>40458522
>>40458580
oh and manletgains said the thread turned to shit and became a cesspool of negativity so he was no longer interested in reading it

can't think of any other regulars around this time

>>40458596
>>40458580

Sounds about right. Wasn't there someone named Cheeky (not the chick)? He was funny.

YOLO is def in jail

how are ya'll buying bitcoin now days?

>>40458491
taste is vaguely similar too, given a certain hygiene standard huehue

>>40458738
localbitcoins

tfw it lets me see my history of btc purchases in usd

tfw i have spent literally like twice as much as i thought on illegal steroid weed drugs

>>40458397
>>40458465
Mine is buggy too. Whenever I want to ask a chick on tinder how her day was it turns into AYYY BBY LEMME WHISPER IN YA EAR instantly

>>40458848
same here. i could have bought a car with all that dough. which would pull poon too but not let me lift three times my bodyweight on top so theres that.

>>40458580
>>40458664
nope yolo tuned in few weeks ago

apparently busy with school and jailbaits

>>40458956
huh, missed that entirely. common consensus is that he died (skinny) kek

You guys blast or cruise in the summer?

I usually blast in the fall so I can eat nonstop but might try summer this year.

Either that or I'll come off all summer and start up again in late fall or winter. I've been on for a while kek

>>40459084
>not 10 months on 2 months off

Is it worth adding Anadrol to a Tren
+ Test cycle or will the Tren be enough?

>>40459084
blast from mid december to late may/early june (roughly 20 weeks), cruise on test and homeopathic doses of dry compounds all through >muh beach season, cruise on test only through fall until mid december, rinse repeat

well repeat depending on bloods but you know what i mean kek

>>40459114
Been on for 2.5 years :/

I wonder if my balls are even in there anymore

>>40459200
mine literally do not shrink unless i take dbol for some reason

>>40459198
Is that advice or what you've actually done. Pretty much how I've been. Only 2 blasts in 2.5 years, cruise otherwise.

No orals in summer tho because I like the drinkys.

I think I'll just get an assload of HCG and pray everything works again when I come off... Whenever that will be

>>40459084
summer blasting ruins me, we get surreal heat and humidity here and I have a hard time guessing sides when I get lethargy and night sweats from merely existing in the wrong climate lol

>>40459200
lemme check that for you, n-no homo

>>40459209
Mine are enormous natty and shrink to grapes and sometimes smaller. I'm more worried about babbies in the future (rather than natty test levels) since I'm an oldfag.

>>40459210
>Is that advice or what you've actually done
both. /comfy/ winter and spring blast bestest for me, you might like it too

>No orals in summer tho because I like the drinkys.
meh i have a liver of steel anyway but yeah i try not to overdo it, there are less hepatotoxic ways to have fun and a glass of wine with dinner never hurt me.

>>40459236
>Mine are enormous natty
pic

>>40459281
Imagine two eggs in a smooth pair of pantyhose that smell of man musk

>>40459273
>there are less hepatotoxic ways to have fun
As in, yay have fun without chemical help, or simply using certain other drugs? Probably the latter but would be nice meeting a straight edge roider and giving him shit for it haha

>>40459084
both, blast from December to March, wait until June, blast June to September

dirty bulk with wet compounds during winter, lean bulk with dry compounds during summer

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>>40459309
rawr

>>40459347
kek definitely the latter. but thanks for the hearty chuckle

>>40459353
dayum that would literally kill me after two years at most

then again i blast over 2g of stuff in total so it might be doable with more conservative dosages.

So I'm starting my first Tren A cycle tomorrow, 100mg eod with 150mg Test E e3d.
Any advice or personal tips on how to alleviate the side effects and to get the most out of the cycle?

>>40459542
>how to alleviate the side effects
ok, dont inject eod

Anyone reuse drawing needles?

Thinking I'm gonna do a bleach and water sterilization on my 22g needles. Dullness wouldn't matter and it's not like there's anything particularly organic they come in contact with that would promote bacterial growth.

>>40459578
better save those 5cents each time to buy a shitload of antibiotics

>>40459575
Why not eod?

>>40459578
>>40459655
This

How fucking poor are you people

>>40459663
steroidcalc.com

you tell me

>>40459459
it's 3 months of recovery m8

do you blast only once a year or something? what a waste

>>40459578
>spend who knows how much money on mystery chink mones
>hurrr let me save two pennies apiece by jewing out on equipment

kys in the most heinous way you can come up with

>>40459697
I see

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What is androgen down regulation? Why does my doctor say that if you do TRT you will have to keep upping the dose until no matter how much you do it won't help you feel better?

Can I get some studies that show anything in regards to long term use of test and whether or not you get androgenic receptor atrophy? I'm havin a lot of trouble finding anything useful wit dat ol google.

>>40459753
i’m >>40459198 and yeah i could do it more often, but the way i go at it is fine for me currently. am old and kinda busy, also need to look splendid for the bikini brides, which i cannot even on lean bulk lol. diffrent folks diffrent strokes.

>>40459810
>Why does my doctor say that if you do TRT you will have to keep upping the dose until no matter how much you do it won't help you feel better?
because his "knowledge" comes from CNN and buzzfeed

>>40459855
>his
inb4 her

>>40459810
>>40459855
>>40459869
how do those doctors even finish medschool?
by this logic everyones balls have to be randy marsh sice at 40+
ask her how that works again

>>40459855
Do you have links to studies showing that it is wrong? I confronted him about it and he said "you must be reading the wrong studies" Unfortunately i lost all my bookmarks.

I haven't got a boner in years and sitting at 240/ngdl and this nigga keeps telling me to get more tests. Niggas wonder why people just buy shit online for 1/3rd the cost.

>>40458203
I love EQ, but everytime I've started mast I've had some life shit come up and ruin my cycle before I could really see it start working.

This summer;
250 test
600 tren
600 mast
750 EQ
50/50 var/winny

Might switch either var or winny for epi though

>>40459753
>>40459822
I'm with this guy

I'm oldfag and can't go as hard as I used to. Plus I'm busy with shit outside of the gym, don't want to throw chems in me if I can't maintain my work ethic year around.

Nice easy cruises are good times for relaxing and boozing and fucking womyns, too. Mental health, yay.

Third time asking: does SARMS belong in fraud? If so, does anyone have experience with RAD140? I'm very close to buying some to try out but I want some personal experiences to see if it's really worth it.

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>>40452563
Surprised no one has chimed in yet. Maybe try to get rid of the gyno first with pharma raloxifene and then pin (assuming you're sure it's gyno and you're actually 10% bf). If you're able to pin on a regular schedule and get quality gear while in the military you could inject yourself.

What would you be waiting for if you were to wait? Do you have low T symptoms?

>>40452786
https://seekerblog.com/2006/01/31/the-murray-gell-mann-amnesia-effect/

>You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward-reversing cause and effect. I call these the “wet streets cause rain” stories. Paper’s full of them.
>In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story-and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read with renewed interest as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about far-off Palestine than it was about the story you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.
>That is the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect.

>>40453373
I've read anecdotal reports of GW that suggest that the cardio gains go away after you stop using.

>>40459810
>Can I get some studies that show anything in regards to long term use of test and whether or not you get androgenic receptor atrophy?

Not saying that I agree with your doctor, but he might be referring to studies like the one linked below and extrapolating based on broscience and super risk-aversion and caution.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9258152
>mean proportion of cells expressing androgen receptors was higher in the castrate than in the normal (24.0 +/- 3.7) and super testosterone (24.7 +/- 4.5) grafts

Note the small difference in expression between normal/superT.

>>40460043
>250 test and then high dose dry compounds

i like your style

You people are fucking pussies.

When the syringe was invented they didn't sterilize shit, and they just reused this giant ass fucking dagger of a needle. But even still, infection was rare as shit.

It's annoying waiting for and dealing with needles shipped to my place.

I'm not even pinning with the needle, and it's going to be sterilized either way. Uncross your legs and dig the panties out of your collective asses, faggots

>>40460043
Are Winny shredz worth the sides? Especially liver sides?

I bartend on the weekends it's impossible for me to cold turkey alcohol for 2+ months without wanting to commit social seppuku

>inb4 Tren
I don't wanna do that shit I'm a pussy

>>40460102
ok so do it and fuck off we dont care

>>40460119
I cannot fucking wait for the day your folks find out about you roiding

>>40460126
probably going to be way after you get an infection from reusing 2 cent needles retard

>>40460102
They also wiped their asses with their hands and died at 47.

Don't call other people names when you're too stupid to plan ahead with your pins

>>40460070
I remember before someone asked this question, and i think it might have been Mossad? had a bunch of links showing that steroid use may actually increase amount of androgen receptors. Got anything on that?

>>40459982
>how do those doctors even finish medschool?
I wonder this shit every single day.

>>40460056
word. i could yolo it multiple times a year but i see no need to given my current goals and life. also i have ran some despicable stacks in younger years, i am starting to get conscious about medical implications too. not much, but it IS a minor factor lol

>>40460160
https://academic.oup.com/toxsci/article/121/2/397/1727752/Pharmacological-Doses-of-Testosterone-Upregulated

>my melanotan 2 + bac water came 2 days early

guess i dont have to pin fucking distilled water anymore right, lol

>>40460043
>250 test
>literal handfuls of other compounds
2017 year of kahuna

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what happened to canary, he always posted the best girls

>>40460160
What's really annoying is when you grow up with a fucking retard like I did who now makes 3x more than me as a doctor.

I still have to explain mundane shit to him like a 12 year old.

He asked me what storm drains were the other day.

>>40460168
Yes same. Wish I could yolo like I used to, as well. I know too much and have too many responsibilities now.

>>40460070
>gell-mann effect
Stop doing this to my head, I live a good life ignoring it lmao

>>40460149
>>40460193
Holy shit the cognitive dissonance

>>40460150
You're only making my argument stronger. All that squalor and infection from unsterilized reused needles was rare. Meanwhile I'm sterilizing needles that have only touched micron filtered oil with antimicrobial agents in it, and not even pinning with them.

I'm gonna repeat myself, you guys are fucking pussies

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>>40460215
Oh yeah forgot about him too. Another missing fraud-ian

>>40460246
>>I'm gonna repeat myself, you guys are fucking pussies
ok

except i know what i did was fucking retarded, i just dont give a shit. but you are trying to portray your single digit IQ as the pinnacle of human intellect

kill yourself

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>>40459989
Missed this - what sort of tests is he ordering? Have you had your cortisol checked? Also, keep in mind that if he's giving you this much resistance it's probably due to the fact that he has a mental block against prescribing TRT to someone under 40 and you're barking up the wrong tree. Trust me, I've been there.

You can ask him for his sources too, you know. Age?

AR expression being limited by androgen levels is true in certain cell types.
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8413317
>These results show that prolonged androgen exposure leads, besides its effect on hAR RNA levels, to functional inactivation of the AR.
Keep in mind that the context of this study is prostate/breast cancer treatment and the expression levels they are checking are in the cancer cell lines and shouldn't be taken as representative of how AR expression works in all cells, or in response to replacement levels of testosterone (TRT). The prostate and breast are already sites that are sensitive to androgens and the prostate expresses AR heavily to start with.

I don't think I've come across any study that makes a claim that on TRT doses you're going to have to continually up the dose to get the same therapeutic effects. So this might be a case of your doctor having a conclusion in mind and finding studies to support the conclusion. I've read anecdotes about needing to up the dose for therapeutic effects if you are blasting all the time but that is also probably connected with adrenal fatigue and other issues that associated with perma-blasting.

If you want to do further reading, check out this review article: https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article-lookup/doi/10.1210/jc.2003-030261

More than you ever wanted to know about all the factors that can play into AR expression and degradation.

>>40460179
Great article, goes to show why the context of a study (like the one linked above) should be closely examined before painting with a broad brush to justify a conclusion like >>40459810.

>>40460246
Ok, so you're equally as retarded as medically inept people. That's cool.

Actually, you're MORE retarded because while they were ignorant, you actually know better but still insist on being pants on head anyways.

In the grand scheme of things yeah you migbt be fine. But pins are fucking cheap there's no god damn reason to reuse them.

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>>40460235
>He asked me what storm drains were the other day.

>>40460312
Is your brain soft? How is what I'm doing comparable?

It's not even a might. I will be fine.

>No reason
Asshole roommate already suspects shit and is itching to fuck with me. Wouldn't put it past him to open a package of mine"by mistake bro"

>>40460043
Nigga please, you don't need the tren or the orals to be dry and shredded. Let the mast/eq combo kick in before you decide to add anything else.

>>40460319
I wish I was kidding

He thought that poop just floated freely under the streets in storm drains and wondered why it didn't stink up the city.

Granted, there IS such a thing as combined sewer overflow, but that's an old system that allows for excess rain and sewage to wash out of the system instead of in the streets.

Fuck, the above paragraph is more information than he knows about anything outside of a medical textbook. I hate him lol

Do those insulin syringes take exactly 1mL. Asking for a friend, ass shot 1 seems the scariest

>>40460371
So now we get to the truth of it all. It's not because we're pussies. It's not because you're a big strong man. It's not because you're just old school like that....

It's because you're scared of your roommate.

Why don't you just go buy some from the store?

>>40460371
kill urself

>>40460415
>asking for a friend

dont roid at 16 years old

>>40460441
>calls us pussies
>while he is shaking in his booty shorts at the thought of his big bad roommate

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>>40460235
>He asked me what storm drains were the other day.

I.. hmm. I have a slightly less retarded friend who makes mad money as a petroleum engineer yet still considers squats and deadlifts the same exercise even after 5 years of lifting. He also thinks MSG is a poison and is in everything including bananas.

>>40460179
ur a doll.

>>40460298
I'm almost 30 and he told he has a younger guy than me who was 22. He's ordering free/total est, estradiol, progesterane/lsh/fsh. Gonna come back same as always with me in 240-310 range and a dick that hasn't worked ever in my life expect when I tried my first cycle. Thx for link.

>>40460371
so opening a package with chinese flintstones vitamins is somehow less bad then finding their paraphernalia