/fraud/ general

>>40461708
brrrp.

>>40461708
that picture is really lewd, anon

>>40461708
who wants glands skype handle?

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In for Cunt.
Where you at famalam

Are the captchas not loading for you guys?

>>40461937
how did you post

>>40461937
Testing.
Also I hate those fucking things

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>>40461950
I have to switch to chrome instead of the chromium build I usually use.

how many people on here are actually taking steroids?

>>40462035
Every week for the last 3 years

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>>40462055
>>40462035
at least 3x/wk past....5 years?

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>>40462055
>>40462077
I meant 2x but whatever. Some weeks I'll just pin once too. I hate pinning. When I was doing ed pins with tren I hated life

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ive started running mk2866 at 20mg for 8 weeks. i have clomid on hand for a mini pct after for 25mg for 3 weeks. should i run a natty AI with my cycle? or test boot? both? and should a have a test boost while on pct? thanks guys

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>>40462112
I don't see the need for any pct with that?
But taking some clomid after probably wont hurt?
I'm not buying into the mk meme yet, but then again never tried. I have a guy who likes it, idk

>>40462090
Do you no longer run tren?

I was thinking of running high test low tren e, something like 600/150-200 per week.

To see if I could get at least a little of that there tren conditioning and strength, but still be able to breathe and sleep normally.

Anyone have experience with this?

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Fucking pec gap makes me want to cry.

>>40462138
mk2866 is ostarine, not mk677

(pct completely unnecessary btw)

>>40462149
Tren has a funny way of making your life more stressful, then being afraid to go back on it kek.
Most people will say that you ant lower test, and higher tren to avoid sides. I always felt better with my test at least like 300mg/wk.
I'd start with like 300mg test/ or if you want it a bit higher like 500mg, then tren like yeah 200-300mg. 200mg you might not really feel much but it's a good start and work your way up.

What do I do to get a testosterone Rx

>>40462211
Yeah wanna start low because I'm already an insomniac, irritable, and paranoid and it's the long ester so it'll stay in my system a while.

You think I'll definitely notice 'something' stacked on the test at 150mg/week or should I stick with other shit like deca?

Is RAD140 worth it compared to other SARMS? Anyone ever try it?

>>40462252
this dude is as experimental as it can get, there's barely any objective info of it around and everyone is trying to shill it.

For something as possible as dangerous as roids it sure as hell seems sketchy af.

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>>40462244
Well only one way to really know. It doesn't necessarily cause INSOMNIA but you will just wae up for no reason n shit. you def sleep like shit.
Now if drugs/money is no problem, add xanax or better yet hgh to help. (and more gains)
It's all what you want. If you're not as experiences, I'd go with like npp/deca for size or like wini and mast to harden up good.
Eq is decent too

I posted a few threads ago about getting a hernia at the gym. Went to the doc again today for an update, and he told me I probably can't do squats or deadlifts or any direct core work for an indefinite period of time, which is pretty fucking devastating.

Anyway, I've never worked legs without squats being the primary exercise. What kind of development should I expect with exclusively high rep leg press, leg extensions, and hamstring curls?

>>40462252
Why would you use that garbage. Just use testosterone enanthate:

-proven
-much much much much much cheaper
-safe
-real results, actually powerful
-doesn't have unknown side effects

it's not even close. why fuck around with experimental synthetic drugs that aren't even half as powerful as the basics?

>>40462371
I do higher volume, higher rep, pump lifts most the time. Just play it safe don't fuck w any that heavy core shit broski.
You might find you like training higher volume more now

>>40462442
I mean it's not like I ever wanted to be a powerlifter, it just sucks to have the door of heavy lifts closed, ya know? At least now I can rationalize skipping leg day. (Only half joking).

>>40462434
Because I have no idea how to get Test E (no mods I'm not asking for sources) and I'm not wanting to have to do PCT. SARMS seem more convenient, less intense ways to fraud.

>>40462485
You're still gonna have to do PCT on RAD.

Besides you're a moron, sarms are in no way comparable to roids. You're comparing scooters to motorcycles.

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>>40462464
r-right I have to skip leg day myself all the time

>>40462513
I'm not comparing them you cunt. And takin a Test Booster isn't a PCT

>>40462522
What the fuck are you talking about test boosters mongoloid.

RAD140 is suppressive you retard, do no pct see how that works for ya. Might aswell pin at that point you pussy.

>>40462485
Test E is easy to come by on reddit steroid source talk/verified. It costs $35 each vial.

I am not discussing specific sources so this is allowed.

>>40462155
I got pec gap and PE and flared ribs

No whining
>>40462522
>Implying there's such a thing as test boosters

First cycle at 18, thinking of sustanon 250 once a week, with some sort of ai and then nolvadex. Thoughts? And please no bullshit about my endocrine system, all my friends are huge and they are fucking hot babes

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Todays been rough boys

>Rest day
>Estro went low
>GF of 3-4 years has a terminally ill dad. She absolutely refuses to deal with it. Hes going to die soon and the only communication Ive received in days is "I cant deal with this now"
>Supposed to stay with her while I go to huge interview a week from today


How fucked up would it be if I end this miserable relationship while shes waiting for her dad to die? Things were perfect before he got sick about a year ago. Her parents dont even know we are dating because they hate me (theyre extremely rich) and blame me for her being a failure in college.

Shit the only reason I was worried about bulking too hard was because I wanted to stay lean in the short-term for her. Fuck this. Years of a relationship down the drain because of a goddamn illness, and shes incapable of improving her life. I cannot wait to lift tomorrow its the only thing keeping me going while I wait to accept one of these two jobs.

I picked up some viagra with my last batch of orals so looks like Im calling in favors from my female wing-woman friends.

>>40462846
Sustanon is retarded, just take test E.

Sustanon is a cocktail of testosterone with different esthers, meaning you're basically on a rollercoaster of test levels.

>>40462870
https://www.buzzfeed.com/carolynkylstra/pure-tragicomedy?utm_term=.woBpzvJpM#.ahPKJrQKo

Women cry everywhere about anything. Women cry about squirrel memes. No matter what you do she is going to cry retarded tears so you might as well do what you want to do and not waste your time. It's time to stop considering her feelings and do what you want to do with your life.

>>40462870
at least give her an ultimatum to have a man to woman conversation. dont just dump her cuz the going get rough.

>>40462873
Okay, I was under the impression sustanon was superior

>>40462962
Nope. Its quite literally ass cancer.

>>40462870
If you really can not be with her, bail now I suppose. That is pretty rough anon.
If you really care about her and are just annoyed how she's being, than just stick through it man

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>>40462949
This is literally what Ive been waiting for. She was supposed to come up and visit last weekend and then her dad left Florida early because he couldnt swallow and needed a feeding tube. I havent heard from her since Friday, when I told her I needed to stay at her place for the interview.

Ive tried to contact her every single day since then at least once to see if she'll be going back home this weekend because, if so, I'll go down early to have this face to face chat.

If I just end it over the phone Id be overthinking things after. Im way better in person, and I already have it all thought out. But at this rate I think she sees it coming and may get one sentence in and she'l just say 'yea i just dont have the energy for this' and it'll be depressing, over, and Ill have to crash on someones couch.

Fuck man. Ive been in enough relationships to know this was the only positive one Ive ever had.

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>>40462980
We get along better than any couple Ive ever seen. We met in college and my friends all love her and ask her advice on relationships. I was sorta our group leader and so by proxy she was like...co chair? Sounds douchey.

I really do care about her and I dont really care about people. We're best friends. But over the past year shes literally stopped cooking for herself, barely cleans, barely leaves her apartment outside of school, adopted two cats and a dog, has lost her interest in sex (and we had a crazy dom/sub thing for years), and barely communicates with me. She just wants to get off school, go home and read and watch anime or Netflix.

I agree with all the advice I just need to get this off my chest. I love /fraud/ and its broship and comfiness. Plus the ease of not having to actually meet each other IRL.

I just wish she would talk to me for five minutes and I wouldnt be anxious until we meet up.

>>40463035
>watch anime
ut oh.
Well I've thrown away a few legit wife material chicks. Now I'm with the grl of my dreams physically/sexually, but long term the others were pretty dime.
Just really think it through long term is my best advice

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>>40463079
I feel slighted. I tend to massively overreact if I feel taken advantage of, childhood BS. Im sure thats part of it.

Ill think about it until we talk, and then make my decision right then and there, for better or worse.

Seems like as long as I keep my head up I can find someone that will /fit/ my life even better

w-were gonna make it

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>>40463132
/roid/ got me through some pretty tough times, Rascal.
Tren will prob not help you in these times I will add kek

>>40463035
Sounds like she's depressed.

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>>40463163
kek yea Ive been avoiding Tren until I settle down into one of these jobs so Im not a bloated sweaty agitated mess week 1.

>>40463192
I know....and as someone that was depressed to the point of having being sent away as a teen for 'rehab', Ive tried relating to her and giving her advice. Which is kinda counter-productive in a way. She admitted once she would keep feeling like this as long as this was going on but...I highly doubt shes going to watch her father buried and then suddenly open back up and be cheerful.

I wish she could learn to lift away the woes like the rest of us. Lift them demons away. SHOO SHOO GAINS DEMONS.

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>>40463132
>>40463163
c-cute

Remember, it takes dedication to make something work, but only if it's worth working on. It sounds like you guys had things well in the past, and she just isn't coping ever since her dad fell ill. Work through it with her mang. Rise to the occasion, no matter how hard, and just try to help her through it. It won't be easy for you or her, but you can be stronger people for it afterwards, and rekindle what you had previously in your relationship.


unrelated

>tfw my day has consisted of eating an entire bunch of bananas, a whole box of cereal and a carton of almond milk, listening to umskiptar 7 times, and jerking off to lewd pictures of qtczgf while revising my routine

>>40463227
why not just tell her what you are telling us

lol

instead of beating around the bush "trying to give her advice"

Do you guys bother to take the variety of steroids or just stick with the basic few?

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>>40463257
Yea...maybe I have been thinking about how this is affecting me too much. I irrationally turn on people quick if I feel slighted. Friends and relationships.

That sounds dope tho what cereal I have been craving crunch berries but >cutting

>>40463283
Ive realized a lot of this over the past 1.5 months when we've been apart. I'm going to try and be more sensitive now, if it doesnt work, then thats just that. She may just need a lot of time to herself. WIthout me or anyone else. I got my gains to keep me warm.

>>40463378
>the past 1.5 months when we've been apart.
>WIthout me or anyone else.


ahh knew i was missing something

now it all makes sense

>>40463402
M8 we live in two different cities, I'm there a couple times a month but I've had work up here for a month

If she cheated on me I would literally audibly kek. If you saw her situation rn youd understand.

And shit glands the only advice Im asking from you is if it involves re-subbing and tackling some WoD

Btw were you a Horde or Alliancefag

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Good evening gentlemen.

>>40463455
>>Btw were you a Horde or Alliancefag
was alliance until the end of wotlk then alternated every expansion to try and change things up to make that piece of shit game keep my attention for more than 1 month

and i just resubbed yesterday. i logged in and wound up deleting it in less than 30 seconds

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>>40463516
I feel that.

I resubbed in the fall and enjoyed Legion for about a month until it all felt so damn hollow. Just kept clicking reque, never left Hubs, teleported to instances, wash and repeat.

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>>40463500
sup mafuka

>>40463547
>until it all felt so damn hollow. Just kept clicking reque, never left Hubs, teleported to instances, wash and repeat.
yep

>>40463035
Birth control, prolly. Kind of ironic how hormones ruin your life.

>>40463378
>what cereal
I'm lame, honey bunches of oats

god tier with vanilla almond milk tho

>>40463562
>Kind of ironic how hormones ruin your life.
even if i wind up with my limbs cut off in hardcore slavery thats better than never experiencing what its like to have testosterone in my body

>>40463562
She went on it once cause I loved to tie her up and fill her up multiple times while walking away to have a smoke, a line, or a shot

She became a raging bitch in one week. Now that Im roiding I have total sympathy hahaha

I havent used condoms in years, just pull out. Prolly why I have HPV.

>>40463578
Dude Honey bunches is amazing. My go to cereal. Ive just been cravin the Cap N cause Ive been sugar restricted for so damn long.

>>40463580
When my e2 crashed today I felt so shit I was like
>never pinning again

One hour later and
>never leaving a BnC

Its like that Offspring song Worst Hangover Ever, except with Estrogen.

>>40463596
>crash e2
>dick shrinks
>dick cant get hard
>feel like shit

Yo did bimbo get back with his monst- I mean "ex" yet?

>>40463691
he's been missing for a couple of days, no news

>>40463701
actually he posted a couple of times in last thread but nothing worth mentioning

maybe not? that'd be impressive

>>40463701
why do you THINK he is not posting

lol

i think even he recognizes it would make him look like a fucking retard at this point

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>>40463580
>>40463596
Yeah after like 5 wks into my first cycle I nopped it right there. Haven't been off in years

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>>40463691
No clue. She's busy shitposting mirror selfies from Ikea on her IG currently.

>>40461757
me on the left

>>40463779
Monroe is my dream girl. She's dating a dyel Russian though.

>>40463557
You resubbed to find some semblance of community/social interaction

But Blizzard has slowly casualized it to the point that no one actually talks or works together anymore besides guilds where you have to commit all sorts of time, to the point it's not worth.

Maybe try one of the vanilla private servers next time you're that bored? I hear that there's more sense of community, more difficulty, wnd therefore more fun.

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>>40463801
>>40463557
>>40463547


Can confirm, Elysium is great.

I started a new character about a month ago when they opened a brand new server (Zeth'Kur) and they're rolling out patches for it in the exact same way that Blizzard did in vanilla. Over the exact same span of time, same content per patch, etc. Nostalgic as fuark and the game feels fun again.

How soon into a cycle or blast do you guys usually up workout frequency/volume?

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>>40463801
>>40463855
I tried to get into Nost but the wait times were unreal. Ill have to check out some alternatives. Vanilla was amazing, but I do really, really like BC.

But the nostalgia of Vanilla will keep me fueled.

>>40463855
Yep, Elysium is legit af

>>40463872
Elysium is the new Nost, took it over when Nost devs bailed to suck blizzard dick.

Since they've opened Zeth'Kur the wait time is nonexistent, at least in my experience.

>>40463872
During the re-launch the server queues were ridiculous (>5k) but they added two new servers to even out the population. A lot of looky-loos have quit too. Haven't seen a queue in over a month. At this time of day on Elysium PVP there are only 6-8k on.

>>40463898
>only

now the question is

rogue or mage

fuck

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>>40463779

>>40463914
>rogue or mage
>not shaman

pick death

>>40463933
>vanilla shaman
>spending all your cooldowns dropping totems down
>or rolling your face on your keyboard 1shotting plebs with windfury
epic

>>40463917
wtf, she is uglier than me

how the fuck... what the fuck is that thing...

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Im gonna relay to you guys a game I play in my head for when I need psyching up for heavy lifts.

You guys know the story of the Time Machine by H.G. Wells?

Well in it humanity split into two groups. The friendly childlike Eloi, and the grotesque Morlocks. The Eloi were vegetarian, and the Morlocks ate the Eloi.

I'm the motherfucking Morlock. That barbell Im ripping up is just a group of little eloi trying to get away. But they won't. I'm going to rip them apart and eat them. I'm going to gnaw on their fucking bones and eat their warm flesh. Because I'm a fucking predator, the king of everything I lay eyes on. And all the weak minded fat scrawny fuckers around me are my dinner.

Because I'm the motherfucking Morlock.

>>40463331
I only take test and orals

>>40463951
I prefer sulfuras t b h f a m

>the plebsmasher

>>40463979
windfury is the name of the spell

of course you used sulfuras

>>40463779
>Whats her IG?

>>40463986
jesus christ I'm retarded

windfury, thunderfury, same difference, kek

If I were to play vanilla private server

How much time would I have to invest to have fun with it? Kind of a weird question now that I've asked... But I'd only have like an our or two a couple times a week and maybe one to two days a month to binge.

>>40464009
either way its better than retail aka world of crackbabies

>>40464009
Vanilla is the biggest time sink the game ever was, contrary to what people believe with the dailies and such that are implemented now.

You can have fun with it, just don't expect to push top tier raiding on servers where progression is still being rolled out. Take it slow and enjoy the ride.

>>40463914
Only problem with playing on these Eurocuck private servers is that lag can be an issue, and it's pretty noticeable on melee in pvp. Plus in this patch there is no collision detection on objects (trees and other shit like that), so mages can cast through all that stuff.

60 mage is pretty great. Easiest DPS for pve and one of the highest skill caps in pvp

>>40464023
>>40464026
Ok let me rephrase

If you were in my position, would you still try and play or would you pick a different game? Looking for some online multiplayer thing but I don't have as much time to invest in vidya as I used to.

>I'd only have like an our or two a couple times a week and maybe one to two days a month to binge.

It would take you like 4-6 months to hit 60 at this rate. srs

>>40464052
If you're okay with just enjoying playing the game as a casual thing then yes, I would play it. But if you're in it for the social aspect look for something else. You'll spend so much time trying to get 1-60 with that amount of playtime it'll basically be a solo game forever for you anyway.

see>>40464062

>>40464026
>>40464023
Ayy Id be down for a /fraud/ vanilla guild

Exclusively barechested jooicey toons, no skellys allowed (although undead was my favorite race, then Tauren)

Any reccomendations for a Test-filled Alpha show or movie about banging sloots and joocey glutes?

I got HBO GO, Hulu, Netflix, and Amazon Prime
Ive seen most of the top tier dramas and comedies, joocey shows like Ballers. Thinking of watching Bigger Faster Stronger for the first time, is it better than Generation Iron?

>>40464052
Ive tried to scratch my MMO itch with alternatives like Rift, Tera, Secret World, FFXIV

Each got me hooked for like 5-8 hours then total boredom. Secret World is great but its not really an MMO and can be pretty confusing with inventory and gear.

MMO is just a dying genre unfortunately.

>>40464089
Definitely give bigger faster stronger a watch, great movie. Misinformed on so many accounts imo and suffers from the same contrarian opinionation that The Union does, but a good show nonetheless.

>>40462870
>Mad at your girlfriend because shes dealing with her dad dying

am i missing something here? or are you a dick?

>>40464111
brah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb1JcO645BA

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCa7jRzCTpW2NCh4FK11y9jQ/videos

so hyped t b h

>>40464122
Yea Im queing that up now.

So is there a good spot to start reading up on how to BnC? Definitive wiki or article? I intended on doing a dedicated cycle and PCT and I dont want to at all anymore. Please point me in a good direction to start.

>>40464139
Please follow the several posts after. Its more of an issue of me getting treated poorly for a full year while I try and support her and her life keeps getting worse ot the point where shes almost not in my life and our relationship is on life support.

But no more sad GF talk tonight now we talking vidya and joocey

>>40464163
Damnnn son. I am gonna be following this hard. Gonna put my

>1070GTX and 8350

To good use

Are there any steroids that are oral and are only mildly effective?

>>40464182
so fucking complex though, characters actually live and die, there's a legal system as far as contracts between bartering players is concerned, if you die and meet specific conditions (very hard) you become a lich who can never die, basically becoming a raid boss for the rest of the server, etc. read up on it, looks crazy.

>>40464169
also, for BnC, it's pretty self explanatory.

Blast for a period of time, usually until you just feel that you need to stop for whatever reason (or keep it on the short side if you're airing on the side of caution) and then cruise for an equal amount of time, or until bloodwork comes back healthy.

I like to get bloods immediately post blast, and immediately before starting a blast (end of cruise)

if bloods check out, I'll blast, if not, cruise a bit longer.

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>>40464169
Yeah I saw those afterwards. Tough situation anon, I'd say communication is really the only thing you can do in this situation. Empathize with her but also tell her that things haven't been the same. Tell her what you told us, the sex is lame now and she barely communicates with you. Tell her you want to talk this out or at least address how you are feeling because it's putting a lot of stress on you.

That's really all you can do. if it was my gf of 3-4 years i would do everything i could to salvage this until I realize it's impossible.

>>40462873
I'm on sust 300 pinning 3x a week. I like it but I've never been on test enthate to compare

>>40464202
Proviron

>>40464163
>more indie shit that will take 6 years to come out and wind up being p2w trash and a huge disappointment

>>40464194
baiting idiots into getting banned is one of the simple pleasures in life

>>40464206
All that sounds so autistically complex and pure and amazing. Hnnggggggggggggggggg

Guess Ill just have to revisit what kind of cycle Im running now closer to the end. Ill be doing some research on that too.

>>40464209
'Ppreciat it anon. Gonna work as hard as I can for it, it all comes down to this weekend. Keep juicing for the confidence and I know Ill make it.

>>40464214
Does that help with muscle mass at all, i read it improves vascularity

>>40464277
Not really. Good for boners though

Any of you guys have experience with test suspension? Trevor from Enhanced Athlete said that you are bound to get a infection with anything suspended in water including injectable winny. I just finished my 3rd vial of suspension and have 3 more vials on the way. Anyway I'm feeling like shit today, shivers, hot then cold, maybe a sign of infection or maybe I'm getting sick anyway I Hit both my triceps yesterday with 50mg each and today the left a tad more inflamed then the right . I'm not gonna go to the hospital yet cause I've experienced tons of swelling on suspension and don't feel shitty enough yetn Pissed I might have to give this wonderful drug up cause getting an abscess or whatever and needing to get it remove obviously worries me. Seems like a good way to fuck up your physique.

>>40463966
Evil dubs for an wicked post

>>40463966
>>40464333
If they sold human flesh at the grocery store

Would you eat it? I definitely would. Cook some fuckers shanks up in a stew. Human heart would be so expensive I bet.

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Survey time /fraud/

>shower in the morning or at night?
>gym in the morning or at night?
>pin (if long esters) 2x/wk or 3x/wk?
>annual income? (in USD)
>Married?
>Child(ren)?
>favorite compound?

>depends on when I do the gym
>depends on work, usually AM
>3x
>student wages, <$30,000
>no
>no
>superdrol

How do you know if someone came in your ass vs just fucking it
No homo

>>40464414
>>shower in the morning or at night?
Night post gym

>>gym in the morning or at night?
Night, morning workouts are awful

>>pin (if long esters) 2x/wk or 3x/wk?
2x a week cruise, 3x a week blast to reduce overall oil per injection

>>annual income? (in USD)
Not telling

>>Married?
No, it's a scam IDGAF what you fuckers go on about

>>Child(ren)?
No time for that bullshit

>>favorite compound?
Test :), lots of it

>>40463966
Wat

>>40464414
morning, I can't stand night showers. I always feel disgusting in the morning, plus there's all the fucking around with bed hair and shit

gym at night

2x/wk

90k

n, I'll settle down eventually but I don't know if I'll be able to remain faithful which is sad

n, want some eventually though

t e s t o s t e r o n e

>>40464414
>shower after gym
>Gym at 1 or 2pm because least busy gym time (i check with google), night when work starts
>Pin test e 2x week, Mon Morning Thurs evening
>40-45k (depending on which jerb i take)
>See feelsgf.jpg posts
>Fuark no, dont plan on it, pocketing the cash, getting lots of doggos
>Epi and test pre hormone ban, Test and Var now


Watching Bigger Stronger Faster makes me wanna order Tren right the fuck now.


Would you boys consider some lil chest implants if you had the cash? Im never gonna stop juicing and roiding but I would love to round out the bottom of my chest and never have to worry about it

>>40464431
Please respond

>>40464518
it drips out dude. your ass is not a blackhole.

>>40464194
>>40464547
>>40464240

>>40464414
Survey time /fraud/

>shower in the morning or at night?
Both
>gym in the morning or at night?
Whenever I have time usually afternoon or night
>pin (if long esters) 2x/wk or 3x/wk?
Twice
>annual income? (in USD)
Student
>Married?
No
>Child(ren)?
No
>favorite compound?
Sdrol n test

>>40464491
I'll fucking eat you, you're nothing but my prey eloi

>>40464540
Theres poop in there too but its not always dripping out

>tfw monitoring stool for semen

>>40464566
Brap posting is banable now?

How do I make GH aid in tendinitis better ?

>>40464414
>shower morning and night
>gym whenever I have time generally at night
>pin E3D
>lol not telling
>no
>god I hope not
>test

>>40464606
I hope not. I would never brap post in /fraud/, but ill be damned if its not fun to derail other shit /fit/ threads

Its fucking juvenile but i swear the first 20-30 times I saw it I audibly keked

>>40462870
Give her space, be a man, be supportive. She's obviously going through some tough shit. She doesn't have time for you because of the emotional stress of knowing your dad is about to die. One day you too will understand.

When you see her be supportive, give her a damn hug and say nothing else.

Good luck.

>>40464414
>shower in the morning or at night?
both when on cycle i get oily af
>gym in the morning or at night?
after midnight
>pin (if long esters) 2x/wk or 3x/wk?
2x
>annual income? (in USD)
like 30k?
>Married?
no
>Child(ren)?
no
>favorite compound?
only ran test-e and dbol so far, so test-e

>>40464431
Nvm I just shat out cum

Does that make me gay

>4chan won't let me post my image
Can I post at all?

Can you really cut at 400mg test? I read that it creates too much estro and water retention to be really effective, and 250-300 is better, but I already started dosing at 400

help /fraud/

i'm two pins in to my first cycle and i've got tendonitis in my right forearm. doc says to rest it for two weeks, no lifting. it's already been hurting for over two weeks. should i press her to get me a cortisone shot? i want to be ready for lifts asap.

I th i nk i might bulk so I can drink more

>>40464835
Cortisone is an anti inflammitory, it is still just as injured dont get that thinking you can jump right back in

>>40464835
just go easy on it.
maybe wear one of those strap velcro brace things

I've always squatted with a super wide stance because I don't have the mobility to do regular stance squats

but now my squat weight increased too much I think and I like, pulled something in my inner thigh

R I P leg gains

>>40464779
I don't think the cum makes it gay, it's just the assfucking that does it

>>40464953
one gay experience doesnt make you gay

i should know, ive had dozens of them

>>40464953
What if its a femine penis

>>40462999
maybe shes pissed at you for being an insensitive prick. Seems like you care more about having a place to crash for your interview than helping her through a tough time after she told you HER FUCKING DAD HAS TO BE SPOON FED

>>40465016
yeah this honestly lol. you are sounding like a 4chan manchild

>>40464414
>shower in the morning or at night?
Depends, usually morning
>gym in the morning or at night?
Night unless working till 10pm, then morning
>pin (if long esters) 2x/wk or 3x/wk?
e3d
>annual income? (in USD)
Kek pathetic since overdosing August and losing job. Restaurant, tips fluctuate.
>Married?
No but I'm going to marry gf in next year
>Child(ren)?
No
>favorite compound?
EQ

2017 KAHUNA WEDDING
2017 KAHUNA FELONY EXPUNGEMENT
2017 EQ ALL YEAR
2017YOK

>>40465059
*<];^)

>>40465072
excellent post, I enjoyed it

>>40465072
Jbflgf

>>40465072
shouldnt you be busy having pedophile fantasies

>>40464976
I've fucked a ton of guys and I always say I'm more sure I'm straight then guys with no gay experiences.
They think they're not gay.
I KNOW I'm not gay.

Whatever, gay guys pay a lot for muscular guys.

>>40465084
Delete this newfag

>>40465088
You got fucked in the ass for heroin?

>>40465088
>gay guys pay a lot
define a lot

and how the fuck did you not get aids, for real?

>>40465098
Yes
Well for money for heroin
So simultaneously yes and no

>>40465113
I got 1500 for an old gay couple to "muscle worship" my body with no actual penetration once
Charged 500 for a full night on backpage Miami usually though. Kahuna doesn't do by the hour.

>>40465113
And I used condoms always when prostituting. Also lucky I guess.
All years before 2017 were certainly not years of Kahuna

>>40465129
god damn fuck

i know what im doing if i get disowned

lol

>>40465135
I wouldnt recommend it. Ex hated it and it still kinda fucks with me when I think about it too much.

I promise after a few weeks of prostituting you'll never view sex and intimacy the same way again.

>>40465135
That's actually really cheap for a night

>>40465180
>you'll never view sex and intimacy the same way again
implying i get any right now anyway

>>40461708
gonna start tbol next week, was thinking of running 60mg for 6 weeks, then pct and clen thoughts or suggestions?

>>40465297
I think you should off yourself

>>40465305
He's already using clen though.

>>40465297
I don;t think it's a bad idea
>yuh hafta inject steroids only test base ehueh research come back

1) what's it like to do steroids and then stop? I want to start using for 6 months straight and then return to being natty before I join the army


2) how can I hide steroids from a piss test. My work does random drug testing

>>40462112
do not use clomid or a "natty AI" or "test boost" for an ostarine cycle. whatever the fuck those mean.

suppression has been proven by many blood tests to be minimal (i.e. natty 500 goes down to ~300) and recovers fast.

>>40465485
Standard drug tests don't test for steroids only narcotics. Urine analysis unearth steroid use though.

Do you guys get raised aggression on mk677? Is it normal? Is it apart of that 7% test increase or the cortisol?

>>40465624
Generally most things make you aggressive.

Even estrogen can make you aggressive. That is, women.

>>40464414

>shower in the morning or at night?
After the gym.

>gym in the morning or at night?
During lunch break.

>pin (if long esters) 2x/wk or 3x/wk?
2x a week.

>annual income? (in USD)
32000 USD

>Married?
Yeah, parents got me arranged to marry a year ago. totally fucked me on it, asked me to come back home 4 years ago under the pretense of patching our shitty relationship, then slowly but steadily marriage came up. Long story short, now i'm married to an 18yo.

At least I get laid 2 times a day now.

>Child(ren)?
Not for a long time.

>favorite compound?
Test-E

>>40465624
>Is it apart of that 7% test increase or the cortisol?
Lmfao

>>40465651

7% Serum test boost

>>40465629

How do I know if I just didint get a PH? Or bunk. K?

Are you guys actually able to scratch your fucking backs?

So fucking annoying how i just cant do it

>>40464406
Human meat has shit macros tbqfh, and for that to change we would need to specifically breed for consumption or cull organic island niggers, both of which I am not willing to discuss rn lol

>>40464414
>>shower in the morning or at night?
morning and a quickie after gym
>>gym in the morning or at night?
late afternoon
>>pin (if long esters) 2x/wk or 3x/wk?
3x
>>annual income? (in USD)
<55k currently, subject to sizable change early 2018 kek
>>Married?
nah
>>Child(ren)?
two sons one daughter, the latter not biologically mine
>>favorite compound?
current goals: mast. in general: halo

>>40461937
does that mean we made it??

>>40465806
>my wifes daughter

>>40465853
>being so swole /fit/ doesnt let you post anymore as not to hurt dyel feelings
thats both heinous and cute

>>40465876
nah adopted at 2 months old. so still (((our))) daughter just not biologically.

>>40465876
>>my wifes daughter
>wife
>clearly states not married
U dun goofd

how many of you guys experienced hairloss from a test-e cycle?

Is fucking up your HPTA a meme?
My friend has done 5 cycles, started when he turned 17. One of them was a 6 month tren/test blast. Each time he came off with no/minimal PCT.

I've never seen the guy skip a beat. He quite literally fucks a different girl every week and loves getting in to bar fights (indicator of high test.) All the steroid forums would have you believe that he would be totally fucked up by now

>>40466114
PCT is a meme.
Sure it can help, but your body is resilient.
Not that I care, but a dead giveaway if someone who is new to steroids giving advice, they always say "make sure you have the proper pct".
everytime.

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Getting closer to small time home brewing. Feels good.

>>40466114
Yes it's meme. Your negative feedback loop of the HPTA will stop test production on any useful amount of steroids. That's not fucked up. It'll recover at some point with or without pct. Faster with pct.

Fucked up is still producing test while on steroids. Means you probably have a tumor pressing on your pituitary gland.

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Been cutting at 1500-1800 kcals with heavy cardio + sauna afterwards, lifting as heavy as I can 6 days a week on 500mg test a week + 25mg winny ED and I've gained weight.

sterons r making my body defy physics

>>40466197
yeah cuz the secret is to never come off

>>40465368
>>40466197
you're a pretty huge moron

I recommend no longer breathing

>>40464414
>Survey time /fraud/
>>shower in the morning or at night?
Morning. Sometimes afternoon. I am sweaty.
>>gym in the morning or at night?
Night for sure.
>>pin (if long esters) 2x/wk or 3x/wk?
2x a week. I hate pinning with a passion. Fainted twice after injecting lol.
>>annual income? (in USD)
$30k in a slow year $80k in a decent one.
>>Married?
Engaged
>>Child(ren)?
Cat
>>favorite compound?
Diddly

>>40466349
>>>favorite compound?
>Diddly
>>>>>implying

>>40466310
>Says the teenager

Where would we be without your vast experience and wisdom?

>>40466353

I'm way to high for this shit.


Love dbol but it makes me a lethargic piece of shit. Test is pretty great but I'm getting tired of walking around with an erection for 2/3rds of the day, and my fiance is getting kind of sore.

>>40466394
I had to actually stop doing my cardio on the bike yesterday because the subtle movement the cycling motion would make my member do was giving me a hard on. god damnit test.

>>40466273
How you liking winny? Any joint issues lifting heavy?

>>40466419
Only began taking it on the 15th so I'm not sure if I'm at the point where I should be getting sides or not, but as of now I've had no joint issues.

>>40466408
It's fucking ridiculous. It's like I'm 15 again.

>>40466341
Do you sell nolvadex or something holy fuck calm down lol
>kill yourself
millennial slang
I've done plenty shit when I started, pct/ no pct it honestly made no fucking difference.
I'm not anti pct I just think it's not that big a deal
>>40466310
That's what I did
>>40466419
wini is based

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS3yT3VccT0

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>>40466452
Woops.
My namefag didn't carry over

Im 21 considering using steroids at the end of the year ive been training for years never getting anywhere on and off. Currently ive been consistant for 4 months in this time ive put on 27 ibs and still stayed 14% bf. Ive made lifting a lifestyle no matter what lifting and dieting must be done but before i started pinning myself i wanted to do a full year of training prove to myself i can stick to my word and never stop this lifestyle. After the year is over hopefully by then ive done enough research to use steroids safely and not kill myself. I dont really know where to start to find out what are the side effects of steroids and how to counteract them and how to keep myself well an not kill myself how to administer properly etc just wondering if anyone knows where i can research all of these things online. Also question for anyone thats ever done this. If possible id like to know if its possible to do 1 heavy crazy cycle. 10-12 weeks and make crazy gains being crazy on top of everything. Diet pct training. And get off it never do steroids again. And retain most of the gains at least70% forever and to get the bodys testosterone and whatever back to normal.

>taking 2500iu HCG EoD for 16 days
That sounds like an absurd amount. But I've been cruising for a long time I wanna be safe.

Anyone done PowerPCT protocol?

>>40466273
Not really. Fat is more energy dense than muscle. Total energy in the system could remain the same even if you've gained weight

>>40466489
Literally Google and reddit

And you'll never only do one cycle. Get that dumb idea out of your head

>>40466452
over the course of two posts you said a 6 weeks tbol only cycle was a good idea and that pct is a meme

it's time to stop posting, or at least to stop pretending you know what you're talking about

cool bro anecdotes though, that's great

>>40466511
Can confirm. Do like you said and really take this year to research research research. r/steroids which is normally referenced in the OP is a good start.

Running my 3rd LGD cycle soon, and I was thinking of running a Test E base at about 300mg a week dosed once every 3 days. Now since LGD is suppressive, I was wondering where this would put me on a bloods T level? I was ready that 300mg can pretty much just make it at the high normal range without raising too many questions. Only wondering cause I'm currently military. Any thoughts on 300mg Test E?

The question i was asking was can you do one cycle and retain most gains and also get your body back to normal. I wasnt asking will i be using it for life. I dont use 4 chan so i dont know how to reply to people who comment on this thread

>>40466489
Thanks for that completely unformatted, poorly punctuated wall of text. It was a delight to read.
Anyway, go read the Reddit r/steroids wiki. It has most of the information you want.
As for the "one big, crazy cycle", that's not going to be a good idea as a beginner, because different compounds have different sides for different people, and you won't have tried them before to know which problems are from what. Besides, it's better for your health to go "low and slow". Less sides, less wear and tear.
And, like the others said, you won't want to stop after the first one. You can use the following cycles to learn those compounds and build up to the big crazy cycle, if you decide that you want that.
Spend this year reading before deciding to hop on and what to use.

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>>40466526
Been on straight for 4 years, been on plenty of grams of gear and forgotten more pussy than you've gotten.
Stop crushing on me.
I started with oral only cycles and holy shit, I didn't die and actually had some good results.
And woa I've come off steroids without a pct and I still got hard.
Just because some echochamber on Leditt wouldnt agree, I don't care.
I've learned from long time guys who compete in national levels.
tldr- just ignore me

My copypasta already going to good use:

>You're gonna lose some, sure. But the problem isn't the drugs in your system or lack thereof, it's the motivation to stay natty once you realize how much better being on is. People don't WANT to come off. They don't WANT to cycle, they want to BNC.

>Once you go down this path, there is no "just one cycle". Barring medical reasons, once you're on you're on. Don't try and fool yourself and think you'll stop once you've hit your imaginary and arbitrary weight and bf% numbers. You won't. It'll never be enough. The ride never ends.

Week 4 of test e and my balls are the same. Is my shit bunk?

Thanks for tellin me to look at r/steroids who ever you are

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>>40466572
Yes, you can do one cycle and keep the gains. If you know what you're doing and aren't a fuckwit.
Reply by clicking on the post number.
Also, see >>40466594 for true facts

Haha its hard for me to type on my phone. Its a potato. I re read that message and thought im gonna get shit for that. Thanks for the tips btw

Is there anywhere else anyone can point me in the direction of to do more research on steroids, effects etc?

>>40466437
>>40466452
I've still never dried it. Gonna do a dry oral stack this summer, trying to decide on a blend of var/winny/epi (preferably only 2 of them).

I've used var and epi and liked both but I'm going for the driest veiniest I've ever looked.

Suggestions?
Also it's not letting me post pics anymore, keeps saying post failed wtf

>>40466658
Literally Google steroids and search Reddit

Not sure how much easier it can get

>>40466658
You can look up individual compounds on steroid.com, but you'll get most of what you need by just lurking here and on r/steroids.

>>40466667
>>40466669
>>40466658
DONT do this. Internet searching got my house raided by the FDA within a month! I was just lucky my shit didnt arrive yet and i made purchase with bitcoin and had a good lawyer.
Now i got smarter, use phblic library for all my dark internet shit.

>>40466660
>driest
>veiniest
>no tren
low test, high tren, high mast, 50mg wini
I don't fuck with var. Too expensive, fake, and wini works just as fine cosmetically.
Never done epi, not too sure.
Proviron is also good, but never ran. Maybe this spring with wini.
Primo is you have $$$, but eh.

>>40466660
This is only my 2nd cycle so I'm not in the position to be handing out too much advice. I can keep you updated on how Win affects me over the course of these next weeks in these threads though if you'd like. My research lead me to believe that Winny would do a better job of drying me out than Var, while also being much less expensive.

>>40461708
I WOULD BERRY MY DICK SO FAR INSIDE THAT ASS WHO EVER COULD PULL IT OUT WOULD BE CROWNED KING ARTHUR

>>40466716
I should add that I would'v skipped winny and did Tren but I figured I'd save the tren for the coming years after I had more experience with gear under my belt.

>>40466700
Lol

>>40466669
Haha dumb question dont make fun of me. Are steroids compounds?

>>40466749
oy vey
>>40466700
that seems pretty inconvenient senpai

What does SST mean on Reddit's source page?

>>40466793
Lol what does that mean

>>40466848
Super sexy trannies

>>40466862
>>40466749
Are you fucking with us? Is this some kind of advanced trolling?

YOU CAN LITERALLY GOOGLE THE WORD "COMPOUND" TOO

For fucks sake

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Me use roids
Me punch walls
Me like men
Me look like gorilla

>>40466848
Seriously
Stop
Trying

Was taking ostarine 15mg a day during a 6 week mini cut and now have decided to move on to real steroid. I am about to start 400mg test a week with 50mg of anadrol as a kick start and am just wondering if I should drop the ostarine all together or add it to my cycle to finish it off. I can see osta helping with my joints as I ramp up the weight from the anadrol but will there be any conflicting issues with running these compound together?

>>40467041
Hahahahahha ;) xox no homo

>>40466916
Yo, it's that indecisive faggot from last night's chat on private servers

I'm gonna pick it up.

What was the server called and more importantly

What's the best race/class for mostly solo play?

Or even better, throw them in descending order from easiest to hardest off the top of your head?

Thanks man

>>40467428
I remember that game.

When I played elemental shaman and the warlock with lots of AOE were the shit. Had a immolation mage that would destroy anyone if I could time him right.

Kinda miss it but no. Too hard and time consuming to even be a decent player nowadays.

>>40461757
This is one of those images that makes lifting culture look fun.

>>40467667
Lifting culture IS fun anon

will anavar too rape my liver values?

>400 test
>250 eq
>300 tren
>50 winny a day


Should i start taking mk677? I feel more steroids probably will just increase sides(tren prolactin gets obnoxious past 500 for me).

Maybe a hgh derivative would lead to better synergy?

Someone explain to me superdrol

All I understand is: people fucking love it, but it rapes your liver and makes you feel shitty

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I came in earlier this week asking about weight gain on TRT (despite deficit and fat loss). I plotted the data last night out of curiosity, but I think my scale might just be giving up... It gave me a range of values this morning between 222 and 226. RIP.
Anyone have any good scale recommendations?

Hey anons I have some bacne and the occasional few minor face pimples
Is sterons a bad idea if I don't wanna get more or is it hit or miss. I've been lifting for 2.5 years nearly and natty lifting is pretty lame
Also do any of you supplement anything for hair loss prevention?

>>40467771
Or maybe... Just maybe.... Scale weight isn't a good indicator of fat loss or muscle gain on a day to day basis. Maybe.

>>40467833
If acne is what is scaring you off, then steroids aren't for you.

>>40467697
Just take your giant stack and leave the experimental drugs to the "nattys"

>>40467687 (myself)
Not as much as other orals

>>40467890
Well I don't wanna be a pepperoni face
How badly does it get typically for people who are already predisposed to having acne?

Anadrol or superdrol for strength gains?

Assuming 10mg superdrol pw (so I don't have to fuck with tudca)

Or 50mg anadrol pw, because that's what everyone sells it at

>>40467988
hey i had very harsh acne throughout my entire life.

getting on steroids didnt increase acne that much, its bearable.

also i noticed there is a difference between natty acne and roid acne.

natty acne is everywhere, roid acne is only on my shoulders and traps.

Switching from asin to adex, what's the equivalent dose of 12.5mg e3d?

>>40468090
There is no equivalent, they are different compounds that do different things.

However half of a 1mg is pill is generally the consensus.

I take 0.25 on pin days but I'm cruising

>>40467890
>If acne is what is scaring you off, then steroids aren't for you.
nonsense, acne is one of the few things steroids cause that aren't easily dealt with without outside help (see: adding more drugs)

t. guy who had to hop on Accutane because of how bad it got

>>40468048
for me it remained entirely on my face, but gear definitely changed what it was like, I started getting "clusters" of pimples instead of just a couple of pimples here and there. also started getting pimples with pus in them instead of just red spots

acne is so fucking awful.

>>40467988
I grew some backne. Face is fine

Coming off is worse than being on

>>40468167
>I take 0.25 on pin days but I'm cruising
that's so dumb I don't even know what to say

that's not how adex works at all

>>40468192
I was exaggerating but still. You should be serious about steroids before hopping on. Whatever it takes for dem gains, even acne... And even accutane

>>40468208
How does that not make sense? Adex every 3.5 days is fine. I'm stable as shit, moods and blood.

>>40468208
There's not a flat line of test in your system. Bloods peak sometime after injection and drop off until your next one.

Adex has a half life of 46 hours.

So if timing is right, you're not gonna have issues dosing it e3d when you pin.

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>>40468041
Someone has to have taken these and noticed difference in their workouts.

Even if you don't strength train, I'd like some input.

Thanks

>>40462035
Literally just here for the sexy girls

>>40468245
But that's only me and only because I'm cruising and barely need an AI as it is, even on cycle.

Since the half-life is 48 hours, while on cycle it's better to dose EoD, and since it's not a suicide AI like Asin rebounds are much more prevalent.

But I don't have issues with that, and remembering to take a pill with every pin is easier to keep track of while I'm relaxing on my cruise.

>>40462870
Why do you need to stay with her for the interview? Get a motel or cancel, sounds like you have another one lined up anyway.
Go stealth mode and see if she contacts you.

>>40468308
Yeah, now look into estrogen rebound from using a non suicidal AI

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>>40468245
That's literally how I take adex on a cruise.
Real fucking critical anon on here it seems.
>ugh so dumb I don't know what to say
I couldn't even tell you if I'm on adex or Asin at the moment, been on the same one cap every few days regimen for a long time. If I feel a little extra lethargic, or especially if my nipple feels weird I'll be on it strict eod.

>>40468370
you are a fucking mongoloid, stop

>after pinning hgh
>can barely walk from calf pumps and calf CRAMPS
>right before my eod pin when its mostly out of my blood
>barely any calf pumps, 0 cramps

Wtf

>>40468358
Most people don't even need AI on cruise anon

If I dosed EOD I'd crash my shit in a week

I get what you're saying tho, but I believe AI dosing is subjective as fuck, idc what science says. And I'm a biologist so that's almost blasphemy for me to say.

>>40468370
Yes. Once you have a routine down that works for you I don't feel like you need to be as super strict as you do in the beginning. When blasting I'm a bit more vigilant tho

>>40468415
if you don't need AI then don't use AI. I don't think you understand what adex does exactly, it basically binds your estrogen to the aromatase enzyme. as soon as you stop usage/enough adex is no longer in your body, the binding breaks and the estrogen just comes back like you never did anything

you're effectively being low e2 every two days then high e2 the next two, repeat af infinitum. it's fucking dumb.

use asin if you're gonna do that

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>>40468385
Why in the hell are you so angry?
>Hey, you should take adex like this instead
Is it that hard? wtf are you so buttmad over?
were you bullied?
You have a good understanding of roids on paper, and not under your belt. That's totally fine and nobody is discrediting you.
Just relax dude, damn

>>40468448
I get angry when rejects from garbage steroids forums like thinksteroids wander here with their absolute negative knowledge of what they're injecting in their bodies decide they can give advice that goes against basic science just because they haven't been bitch slapped by their bodies yet

you're an idiot, you don't know what you're doing. keep blogging, don't give advice

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>>40468406
>Refresh
>Out of Stock
>Refresh
>Out of Stock
How many iu's we at now?
>>40468415
Yeah, and when you ramp things up obviously you have to listen to your body with how much more to take. One way to know I'm at a good ying-yang is if I wake up with morning wood. As long as I'm waking up hard, no bloat, no lethargy - I keep er right there

>>40468041
Anadrol's going to be more consistent for strength gains, superdrol' s a little more for mass purposes, and superdrol pumps can be counter-productive for strength training.

>>40468358
The'rebound' is just aromatase functioning at full capacity again. It's not like your body is stocking up on e2 and adex is holding it back.

So if his test levels are low enough by the time the adex wears down, there's no way for the e2 to spike hard enough to matter

>>40468509
that's exactly what it does.

go away

>>40468478
Hey man, he's been giving shitty advice in here for like 5 years, lay off, he's grandfathered in.

>>40468445
I just think the "high" e2 is negligible for me. I know how estrogen rebound works, both semi scholarly and first hand, but it's not like I'm instantly low e2 after my pill and instantly high e2 after 48 hours. I wouldn't advocate e3d on a blast but it's enough to keep me level headed and acne free on a cruise so fuck it.

Maybe you're 100% right, but subjectively I seem fine and my last bloods were cool. To be fair I haven't read about AI or PCT in like 2 years so maybe I should go brush up.

This is the exact reason why I like Asin more than adex btw, but I have so much adex I wanted to just go ahead and use it up.

>>40468509
>It's not like your body is stocking up on e2 and adex is holding it back
Actually yeah that's pretty much what it's doing. However estrogen doesn't just hang out forever, it's not like the adex is holding on to estrogen from 5 months ago, just waiting for you to miss a dose and release 5 months worth of bitch tits and mood swings into your blood stream

>>40468523
Not that guy but now I'm curious. It blocks the receptor right? Does the body just keep pumping it out and cause a buildup?

>>40468523
Give me a link then, because nothing I've read says anything about that.

Where is all this extra e2 being stored?

(Here's Wikipedia on how adex works, it just occupies the aromatase enzymes so they can't work on test)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anastrozole

>>40468478
I hope you realize I was posting here before you knew what dbol was.
writing daily diaries of experimenting with 1g tren/wk. I have emails from different sources who knew me from here, free shit for being the guy here. I was offered to rep for a source, paid, who is one of the more popular ones on sst.
I don't say any of this bragging, just that this place is my home. I was only here and one other source board.
I have an actual professional job and stopped coming here for like a year, so one might think I'm some retard off the street.
I just have a problem when people don't talk to people here like people. This is /roid/ not /fit/

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>>40468534
See, this I like

>>40468565
No.

Adex reversibly binds to aromatase, so e2 cannot be produced from testosterone while it's in your system. But once the adex is processed, the aromatase is free to work again. Estrogen is not being stored anywhere, the 'rebound' is just your aromatase functioning as normal again, which can cause a spike. The reason asin has no 'rebound' is because it permanently blocks the aromatase in your system, so your body has to create more enzymes before it can process test into e2 again.

>>40466710
Plan is
250 test
600 tren
600 mast
750 EQ

Just trying to figure out what orals to add. I liked var when I last ran it from FLbut definitely underwhelming. I'm not a huge fan of sdrol either I thin it's mostly hype.

>>40468570
serms block the receptors, non suicidal AIs such as letro and adex bind to the estrogen directly. once the adex is gone, the binding is gone and that's how estrogen rebound happens.

>>40468669
IT DOESN'T BIND TO ESTROGEN YOU FUCKING RETARD STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION YOU STUPID SHIT

It binds to aromatase, the enzyme that creates e2 from test.

>>40468625
so you know how the binding process works, how are you this confused about estrogen rebound exactly? binding AIs don't kill any estrogen, it has nowhere to go once you stop the AI, the binding breaks and the estrogen is let loose. what do you think happens to the estrogen exactly?

>>40468643
>from fl
he's still slinging? holy shit.
yeah, i'd never buy var unless like legit lab maxed. even then wini is so good, at least for me.
Just try wini, please. It takes all the water out, look so dry and crispy.
Solid stack though. Want to run something like this spring but still fear diving back into tren

>>40468625
You're right, I was misremembering thanks.

That's why I always thought estrogen "rebound" was semi broscience.

>>40468643
I hope you take my suggestion m8

>>40468692
THERE IS NO ESTROGEN.

IT DOESN'T GET CREATED BECAUSE AROMATASE IS INACTIVE.

YOU'RE A STUPID FUCK

>>40468669
Yeah I'm retarded I was mixing things up for a second.

>>40468686
Pretty sure he meant that.

>>40468715
yeah you're wrong though, oops!

From the looks of this thread in the last 10 minutes, I think we all need to up our AI.

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>>40468706
I don't mind the tren sides. Is there any reason you oppose tren in that stack physique wise? Or just for the sake of leads strain on the body/mind?

>>40468723
GOOGLE AROMATASE

THEN GOOGLE ANASTROZOLE (THE ACTIVE CHEMICAL IN ARIMIDEX)

THEN KILL YOURSELF

>>40468753
I'm posting from work between lines of code so I don't have time to teach you all about aromatization works, but binding to the enzyme doesn't stop the enzyme from producing at all. It traps the estrogen created.

Please do more research before you get into an argument with me who knows infinitely more than you do

>>40468752
You said you had never really used mast before, I was hoping you'd give the mast/eq combo a good run before bringing the tren in. BP can be a real issue with tren/eq too.

>>40468774
Ok I will fully accept being a loud retard

But I'm gonna need a link showing that e2 is still created from a bound aromatase enzyme.

>>40468824
This is v true. Didn't you mention your bp isn't that great Kahuna?
From my experience, tren raises bp way more than eq. but both can do it

>>40467220
Bumping this question one time. Going to start anadrol after I get home so if I don't have an answer I'll ditch the osta

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>>40468953
Yeah isn't ostra incredibly mild? Why not just keep it in if you want, I don't see any reason to drop. Could be mistaken but I always saw those is kinda meme, but if you have the cash why not i guess.
I'd start with dbol instead. Unless you some kinda powerlifter fella

What happened to the DNP post that always floated around. Haven't taken it in around 3 years and need to ensure nothing's changed etc

>>40468824
>>40468867
Yeah my BP is a fucking nightmare. My doc gives me lisinopril/HCTZ at whatever doses I want though so I'd just ramp up while on. Donate too.

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Coming from >>40468936
Is ECA stack real or a meme? Anyone tried EC(A) without any other frauds for a cut?

>>40469025
What's a common reading for you? Like say you tested right now, what is it? Mine is pretty bad, since I've only been on like 300mg test the past 4 months mine was 136/80 yesterday. Way better than when I was on tren, that's for sure

>>40468994
Just wasn't sure if it would conflict with anything and yeah it is a meme and I only bought it because I wanted to dip my toes in the ped life but didn't want to actually juice. I'm quite happy I did though because after a few weeks it made me realize that what I in fact wanted to do was juice.

I only chose anadrol of dbol because I wanted something to give me strength but wouldnt aromatize. I was thinking sdrol but I didn't want something as harsh for my first blast. I'll probably run Tbol on may to get ready for a con though.

>>40469036
DNP won't kill you unless you're a complete retard. In which case you should take it anyway.

ECA is legit, ECY is better. Plenty of science behind it, but I'm not gonna link it because it's not worth the effort.

>>40469141
>ECY

Have you tried it? I read that it's legit but I wanted to hear some onions

>>40469036
Yes, eca works as intended.

>>40469155
Not with yohimbine mostly because I didn't feel like ordering it.

EC works fine and will get you leaner, easier.

>>40469122
The first roid I ever did was sdrol only.
If you do like 10/10/20/20 you should be totally fine and no aroma.
I thought adrol aromatises big time? Bloat and all that? Dbol would be the milder option.
Pinning dbol gives wild af strength too, just have to find it. Annoying too. I remember I was pinning dbol and you could legit taste it as you're pushing it in. Tasted like pennies, weird shit.
But If I was you, sdrol or dbol. Adrol isn't going to kill you or anything, but I'd imagine more bloat

>>40469025
Then I would advise some caution. Just do a low and slow stack, say 250/400/500 test/mast/eq and focus on getting into summer as healthy and functional as you can be on it. Do cardio, take some Coq10.

If you can't get lean and mean on a gram of dry compounds then it's not the drugs you have issues with.

How do i not cheat on my wife with this need and want to reproduce with massive amounts of different women while on cycle? I did not expect to be so horny that i want to fuck every girl i see. I keep laying it down on my wife eod but she needs breaks from the dickening. I honestly contemplate stoping at the dirty asian massage parlors around here everyday after work that are known for hand and blow jobs.

>>40469237
Sdrol only eh?

Go on...

>>40469122
>All that shit on your first blast

Just pin test FFS

>>40469237
Adrol doesn't aromatize but does interfere with e2 metabolism, according to skimming the first couple sites on a Google search.

Dbol not only aromatizes, it turns into methyl estrogen, which is more potent than regular e2.

Pretty sure you have your recommendations backwards.

This is like, the third time this thread you've given bad advice. What does your physique look like, now I'm curious

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>>40469527
Yep my first roid.
It was when sdrol was legal, I was too afraid to pin.
Did 10/20/20/30. Had awesome awesome gains. But once you go off, you quickly sort of shrink back down. I wasn't lethargic ever or anything. Now when I run sdrol I can get kinda lethargic.
It's funny, at the time I'm thinking like well it's an intro step into roids, then find out it's one of the way more powerful orals kek

>>40469485
>"Would doing this be cheating?"
>if yes, don't
Pretty simple, bub.

Also,
>eod
I can see the source of your frustration. My condolences.

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>>40469569
Yes let me just post a pic so have some kid who calls me a doofus kek.
dbol doesn't cause as much bloat as fucking drol dude lol drol is used by big powerlifters OR big monsters who while already dehydrated grow into the final days of a show.
I'll be dead honest it's been years since I've studied these compounds like a pharmacist. But one thing I do know is what they do physique wise and what competitors do with them.
Anadrol and both dbol are offseason for growing, while drol is more strength but puffy outcome. Dbol similar only not as much basically, less harsh.
You post you, i'll post me btw.
I don't train or roid 1/10th of what I used to. I'm a professional now and not as interested being zyzz. On vacation for the week eating sushi and playing vidya w my friends.
Not sure why so threatened by me. I take criticism fine and very easy going, anon

GOTEEM

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>>40469789
Don't take me the wrong way, I'm not trying to be an asshole

But the comment on adrol bloating more than dbol sounds weird as fuck and wrong from everything else I've heard. I've only been browsing steroid forums like this for like 4months or so though, so I definitely admit I don't know everything


Here's a back pic I posted not too long ago. I'm focused on shredding down rn. I've only been lifting a cumulative two years, and roiding on test e for 4 months. My programming for the first year and a half was absolutely ass, though, and I've made almost as mjc gains in the last six months than the previous 18, noob gains included.


Again, not presenting myself as an expert, but your advice seemed flat out opposite to what I have read, and I'm not the only one here saying that you've given bad (or just, let's call it "strange", because it's really hard to call things right or wrong when it comes to this if it gets results) advice this thread.That's why I'm interested in seeing your physique

>everyone at work is sick
oh no

spare me, I don't want to be sick and miss out on a week of gains mid blast

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>>40469882
Literally anything I've read about drol v bol was that drol bloats wayyy more. Going into adrol is like, time to get big and puffy. But it's seen is more harsh than dbol. dbol is more friendly.
Literally disagree with me all you want, I know I sound like a caveman lol. All my years hear I don't have any beefs or anything.
And I don';t claim to be any kind of guru, but like you, it consumed me for years learning this stuff.
My goal was just to be physique tier. Signed up for a show, prepped and realized I didn't know jack shit about poses or what they test or anything.

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