/fraud/ steroids general

https://www.steroid.com/The-Whole-Truth-About-DNP.php

Oh and by the way check your heterosexuality at the door, it's the first thing you'll lose when you start pinning.

>>40430074
you know what rhymes with tren then right ? ill give you a hint but its not the muscle

>>40430081
Glans? Lol

what do you guys think of this cycle?
week 1-12 test e at 500mg, week 1-12 boldenone at 500 mg and dbol for the first 6 weeks?

>>40430096
only the best faping material on this entire site bby

>>40430097
I think you're an idiot :)

hi im a girl
if i do SS and use like 2.5 mg/day of anavar what would happen?

>>40430111
why?

>>40430124
you become ultra penis ron Jeremy style types of huge

>>40429867
incase peak forgets it when he wakes up from his coke and whores

>>40430132
no seriously
Would it be a waste?

>>40430186
ask bimbo hes var'ed his Ex before

>>40430197
Iirc bimbo was very happy with how his ex turned out (body wise)
Not sure about the dose or starting point tho

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>>40430124
>>40430186
>Would it be a waste?
not at all, women are incredibly responsive to aas

i wouldnt' use much more unless you want to sacrifice some femininity, or your var is underdosed

>>40430327
Okay. I'm a noob doing SS though, that's why I ask.

>>40430021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw

>>40430327
That's 5mg ED? Guys usually run, around 50mg ED?

>>40430465
yeah, around there

most dudes stay away from var because it's too expensive at the doses you'll need, but it's still nice if you have the cash

women have it pretty cozy tb h, don't even need to pin

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reposting from the last thread
>>40427373
Sorry, you're right.
I'm planning to run 500 mg/wk test e for 12 weeks and 4 weeks 30-40 mg/ed dbol (haven't decided yet) as a kickstart.
My stats are 6'0 182 15% 26 years old.
I'm thinking on cutting some more bf before starting my first cycle though.

>>40427848
>Quality post. 10/10 saved
aww stop it, kek. for real though some of it is anecdotal and placebo so usual grain of salt applies. but thanks, weaponized autism does pay off for trial and error stuff

>Interesting how gum chewing plays into all - makes total sense
yup, minor factor but all other stuff aside a prominent masseter gives a bit of a structured look to patchy beards. facial muscle exercises make you look like a mongoloid on molly while doing them but are good for bloodflow

>>androgenic rating
>http://www.nature.com/pr/journal/v18/n11/pdf/pr19842389a.pdf
>Check out the study on the top left. DHT increasing collagen in foreskin fibroblasts.
lel read it and got me thinking, but although i may be a dickhead sometimes, i have no actual foreskin fibroblasts on my cheeks topkek

>But I am aware of the studies showing what you are talking about, where rats with no androgen receptors etc.
yeah. most of it is anecdotal for me, but i found that while dht derivatives (i.e. no 5ar involved) do not make me shed hair (mossad rambled about this a few threads back) they somewhat inhibit beard gainz in the long run for me. am too dumb to come up with actual scientific approach but fwiw paying attention to that helped me.

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Hey /fraud/ I've come off of a 3 year blast and cruise mission, where I destroyed grams of tren test masteron, tons of oral shit, dnp, hgh and everything. I just gone off cold on Christmas. no pct, even tho I got tons of pct shit on hand
Wasnt very problematic, the first month was ok, my libido was even higher. Now I lost nearly all interest in sexual activties if there is no stimulation. If I look at prons or put my benor in the bagina of my gf it works flawless,
I even cum a lot more than I did on cycle, my balls got bigger too, not a lot but they did.
What the fuck is wrong with me, that sex doesnt even cross my mind anymore but yet my benor works and shoots cum without problems? Will it just take time?
I planned to go on cycle again in 9 days, pls help

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>>40431132
>although i may be a dickhead sometimes, i have no actual foreskin fibroblasts on my cheeks
Fucking hell, my poor sides.

>>40431133
This is obviously a mental thing, if your benor works than it has nothing to do with your hormones or your libido, but just the way you feel like at the moment.

>comes off from a 3 year blast
>wants to do a cycle again 2 months later

you could have just stayed on

>tfw finally blast again (maybe including hgh) and bulking, after ages of cutting on cruise

We /ravenous/ now. w2c whole grilled cows for cheap

>>40431374
lel come visit me, I live in walking distance of a cattle farm and their guard dogs are old friends of mine. bring your own wire cutter and bbq sauce.

>>40430497
pinning e7d 50mg deca or eq is a nice cycle too. 1vial lasts 40weeks haha
although for a beginner i would reccon 25mg

>>40431402
Nice, fun weekend activity along with cost effective protein heh. Where you at? Walking distance from farm sounds rural as heck.

>>40431450
yeah rural gypsy yurop, so this might not be worth the effort lol. hmu if you ever need 15kgs or more of beef jerky though, I know a guy.

>>40430097
Bold Cyp? or EQ?

DHB is much better from what I can tell.

>>40431133
I come off with no pct and it happens to me too, then picks up again a few weeks after that. I strangely have very little issue not using pct.

>>40431750
EQ and yeah i did some research about it and it seems better indeed but i couldn't get my hands on it

>>40431809
search on the typical steroid source talk place not here. Maybe some vendors, theres a raw supplier too which is where Ill be getting mine from (they do some oils too, so maybe they have dhb prepared in a vial). They also got bold cyp.

>>40430124
That's a negligible amount. You'd be better off dieting. 20mg-60mg daily for 10 weeks will get you some amazing and dramatic change. And since you're a woman, no need to run pct. Fucking easy

>>40432415
>woman
>20mg-60mg daily for 10 weeks
enjoy pickle clit and 24/7 gunslinger 5 o clock shadow

>>40432415
>recommending 60mg of anavar to a woman
Jfc you're retarded. Might as well tell her to hop on tren too.

Ayyy

So I got some sore nips, possibly a lil pea growth, and some insomnia last night. Other than that, no high estro symptoms.

Took Asin 12.5 yesterday and today I cant decide which would be more effective:
>Start dosin Asin ED
>Take Nolva ED for a few days and do Asin EoD

Just trying to avoid crashing my e2. And Im reading lots of mixed reviews on taking Nolva for gyno on cycle, with some saying it merely hides symptoms without removing gyno.

>>40432714
erections and libido totally fine btw, and bloat seemingly disappeared after Asin yesterday

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I asked in another thread but no one cared. What would happen if I ran a cycle of ostarine for let's say a month and maybe a 300-500 calorie deficit? Would I need any kind of pct as well? I'm never doing needles but I'm not opposed to orals for a nice recomparoony

>>40432999
I havent used Ostarine since the pro-hormone ban.

But when taking the legit stuff I had similar, if less pronounced, results as Epistane.

Increased pump, minor strength gains, vascularity, weight loss, no need for PCT

Take lots of liver support especially if you drink

>wake up
>stretch
>calf cramp
>go piss and come back to bed
>lie down
>hamstring, calf, lower left back, upper left back cramp
>wtf
>roll over
>lower right back cramp

What the fuck is this shit i usually never get cramps on anything

>>40433076
Probly that whole vial of sub q HGH m8

Up the potassium and taurine

>>40433086
I thought the half life was like 4-6 hours subq, it's been around 40 hours since my injection, wtf.

Also dat carpal tunnel... lol. Fml

>>40433076
>>40433115
u gon die

>>40431132
Facial exercises aren't a good idea, stretching facial skin in general is retarded.

Been off tren e like 3 weeks now. Woke up the last few nights with my bed sheets soaked in sweat.

I'm thinking low e2? All I have is letro for AI so I've been struggling dialing it in. Was on no AI for a while and started getting acne, now poppin letro and getting night sweats. Fuck estrogen and letro I guess I'll go back to asin.

>>40433532
If youre off Tren I feel like low e2 is the only explanation left.

Grab some Asin and avoid that awful Letro e2 rebound

>>40433532
>Been off tren e like 3 weeks now.
not gonna make it

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>two weeks ago, ludicrously stressed about not having a job, searching for months, etc.
>Gains and energy a struggle

Today
>Test has kicked in, var starts tomorrow
>High energy, great libido, diamond erections
>Met with potential new boss and hes desperately trying to get me to head up a new division as they acquire a new company
>Interview with big corp on the 28th hes trying to pull me away from
>60 degrees this week in Cleveland in February

When it rains it pours...pouring gainzzz that is

>tfw sweet relief

>that shitstorm on the source board about that one source and his braindead "rep"

holy. fucking. shit.

fake test, fake clen, fake sdrol, fake viagra, fake fucking everything wtf?

Guys I'm alive, the pain is way down, I almost did squats yesterday, I think I'm gonna cycle on

test p on first cycle was not a good idea missed almost a week in the gym but feeling good for next week

>>40433667
remember when you wanted to do test suspension

>>40433641
Glad I never used him. However something similar happened about a month ago where it was determined the source had bad raws and was seemingly forgiven. Pretty sure his recent reviews are positive.

My source has gotten great Test reviews over the past month.

Bit worried about the Asin strength tho

>>40433495
not those new age memes where you move your face nine ways from sunday with your fingers for half an hour, those are indeed gay and counterproductive, just practicing mimics and chewing motions and all kinds of funny faces for 2x45s two times a day, like stroke patients do. should have clarified probably.

AYY LMFAO

my hgh source is out of black tops until march, LOL. good thing i ordered when i did. get fucked cuckolds

>>40433697
i member

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>>40433734
>ugl ai

>>40433697
>>40433791
Lol glad I was talked out of it, that would have been hell

>>40433802
>needing ai

>>40433802
Im grabbing liquid stuff in a week. Didnt realize at first what a difference there was.
>>40433807
I aromatize like a baby back bitch

I want to compete in a classic physique competition. What do you guys think of this for prep?

Test, Mast, Primo, Anavar

Seem like a decent stack? I respond pretty well even to shit like deca and dbol as long as my diet is in check. Looking to get lean and full af. Dosage recommendations?

>>40433827
>implying pharma ai is liquid

>>40433641
man this shit never fucking ends

canada is such a fucking meme for gear. guess it's time to switch to someone even more fucking expensive (woo 60 bucks a vial of test e)

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>>40433807
>needing benadryl, prilacrapine, and hgh just to talk to not play wow

>>40430021
>"not scary big"

yeah im really quaking in my boots when i see you roiding faggots

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>>40434006
lolwut

>>40433932
Wut

Are you this retarded on purpose or is this just your autism. Can't tell

Why can't I find viagra anywhere? I just wanna tear a third hole in my girlfriend one night

>>40433834
Trying to put on mass or get lean?

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>>40431133
This will be me when i go off. Not looking forward to that. I doubt i'll spend much time being natty, fuck that. you look familiar too, either here or different board.
>>40433781
fuck you famalama. went to order last night and was insta bummed. not going w the other ones either.
>>40433641
i love drama fill me in

>>40434053
Fucking everyone and their mum sells viagra or cialis.

>>40434088
Just want to stay full while getting lean. But I don't mind growing in to the show. Last time I tried competing I did it naturally and hated how flat I was

>>40434104
I've tried looking around leddit but I guess I'm new to the source thing

>>40434137
Then probably keep test medium to low (300-500mg) and run mast and primo higher (~700mg). Var isn't bad but imo there are better choices for contest prep orals unless you have a lot of it and wanna run large doses.

>>40434172
Thanks man. I planned to run mast pretty high but primo is damn expensive so we'll see what I can do. The var I already had on hand but I know a bunch of people that say it's not worth it and would rather run winny. It's just a convenience thing for me now. Appreciate it!

>>40434172
this

also as meh as winny commonly is, as mere contest prep finisher it does wonders. not to mention most people buy winny anyway when trying to cop var but that is a topic for another day lel

>>40434140
Viagra is insanely easy to find on the internets cuz.
Most clen or roid sites sell it.
I take viagra very commonly now and literally destroy my 90lb small gril

>>40434202
that's all I want to do, new grille isn't on birth control so we have to use a condom and it kills my boner. She's only 95 lbs and she's a little freak so it's fucking demoralizing when were trying to fuck and I can't get it up. How do I figure out what sites are legit and just wont steal my cc info or send me a fake product?

>>40434222
Was posting mobile, anywho -
I've ordered from indian sites that call me a lot now, I wouldn't do that.
Do you buy roids? Most sites have it, basically any reputable site will have it, and not faked.
literally any roid site. there are plenty sites that review roids, id start there if you're noob

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you guys have any good time saving tips?
I'm really hitting a wall for time recently, avoiding reducing workout time, but its Sunday and I'm writing multiple papers right now that I should have been able to do during the week

>>40434200
consider lower test too, since var won't dry you out the same
all based on your water retention
its common to drop test right around contest, depends on how primo fills you out

but I don;t have any firsthand experience competing

>>40434201
I have so much fucking winny
damn chinaman

>>40434222
even legit sites will steal your cc info sometimes
thanks adc

>>40434270
doing research it seems like a lot of people buy from indian sites. I don't buy roids or anything, I'm pretty noob when it comes to this stuff. Just interested in better boners so I don't really know any roid sites.

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just a tip to you newbies.

pin your shit slow. fuck. i injected my test e + tren a too fast and fuck the cough literally killed me.

not to mention the enormous ASS pip i'm experiencing right now.

>>40434284
well I wouldn't use any site that uses CC, even though i have and havent had problems ever.
Are you familiar with bitcoin?
tomcruiz ( a t) safe-mail ( dot ) net
I can helps

>>40434273
>even legit sites will steal your cc info sometimes

Lol The non legit guys are pretty straight up, I tried ordering halo from a non legit site and they returned my money and didn't use my stolen cc number or anything.

>>40434335
Heating helps with test p, I pinned my virgin left leg yesterday and it's not too bad

>>40434335
>pin your shit slow

Use 25g and you won't have an issue with that m8

>>40434352
Thanks, I'll send an email

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>>40430156
Thanks grandpa, interesting to learn about what motivates you. I was sort of almost expecting a /pol/-inspired motivation similar to what CP once posted about being of some use in upcoming war or Trump crusades.

I might look into capping. I really need to move out of this house and get my own place so I have a dedicated lab room but I'm too attached to the puppies here :/

>>40431132
>they somewhat inhibit beard gainz in the long run for me
Good to know! I was sort of considering blasting masT after hearing mossad's experience with it not causing hair loss to try and get beard gains (the normie model in the beard forums is DHT in scalp = loss and DHT in face = beard) but I think the actual mechanisms at play are more complicated. Oil stack is so /comfy/ anyways.

>>40434376
I used 25g and got 1.5cc in in less than 20 seconds.

i pushed way too hard.

>>40434414
gotchu bro

>>40434273
>I have so much fucking winny
>damn chinaman
kek same here, now the question is if to just man up and munch it by the fistful or sling it as var to some dumb cunt i dont like much anyway

19, Half a year of lifting and now had half a year hiatus.
180cm, 65kg

I know nothing of roids. Can some be used to kickstart, or am I Retarded?

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>>40434609
its easy enough to sell even bunk product to retards

the problem is that NO ONE wants winny
do not tell people its winny if you want to move it

>>40434448
well depends on dosage, anything from 80-150mg does nothing, up to 300 seems to favor it slightly for whatever fucked reason i cannot scientifically comprehend, anything beyond that does not cause shedding but inhibits further growth. i find little actual evidence for this so maybe face dht does favor beard gains and i am just a freak outlier who the fuck knows lol

still do the rest of my regimen (change out pso for gso or mct if you are unsure about dht faggotry), fun to do and effective.

>>40434670
i refuse to sling bunk because of some fake honor code i have, but telling some curlbro my winny is var is no crime. they have never had real var anyway, given the situation around here they never will. probably would even bust my ass for lying if i ever slung the real deal because of different effects hue

>>40434667
You're young and new to lifting. Just lift and eat bro don't worry about roids right now.

>>40434758
*CP chuckling in the distance*

>>40433641
What happened? I'm not seeing the post.

>>40434739
>probably would even bust my ass for lying if i ever slung the real deal because of different effects hue
Reminds me of how I got accused of giving a friend bunk coke cause it was not as sweet and sticky as the stuff he usually got. Turns out his guy cut with powdered sugar. My sides reached terminal exit velocity instantly.

>>40434800
jesus christ not sure if i should laugh or cry

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>>40434667
you can but its very easy to ego lift and destroy all your shit.
Give 1/2 of your lifting time was a "hiatus" no, don't do roids
its an upgrade on the lifting lifestyle and you are not yet dedicated enough to it.

>>40434739
sell it to someone to sell if for you then
I'm always upfront too, but moving bad product is not hard
SELLING WINNY IS IMPOSSIBLE

>>40434864
nah i do actually know contestfags who would need it for prep. but they also know that i am an asshole who wants way too many shekels for it :^) ah whatever, might just yolo it myself like a retard before i hit the beach in thailand with the mates this summer, should be fun kek

>>40434864
I love winni :D

If male pattern baldness does not run in my family am I pretty much immune to the hair-loss effects of steroids?

Steroids only accelerate pre-existing hair loss processes right?

>>40434945
ayyyy need some???

kek kidding pls no ban, but that was just a perfect followup to our discussion you had there

>>40435017
Not immune but affected way less, given sane doses (>implying).

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>>40435042
my email is linked above in thread kek
if you wana talk about mma or trump ya know :p

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>>40434448
well i do train for muh athletics so its not that far off from CP's reasons. just its a different focus.


>>40434864
http://www.mangahere.co/manga/murenase_shiiton_gakuen/

got a manga i know you'd like :P

>>40434787
everyone is claiming all his shit is bunk, and two people have gotten bloods showing his test is garbage/bunk. one of the guys had 52ng/dl running his test at 150mg, lol.

and perfect lipids + liver values running his "sdrol" (in fact better than before he started)

>>40435106
yiff yiff hooray

>>40435054

I plan to do just 500 mg/week of test cypionate by itself. I should be good right

>>40434448
>Good to know! I was sort of considering blasting masT after hearing mossad's experience with it not causing hair loss to try and get beard gains
That's a lie, beside the body hair gains

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Who else here likes to more-or-less fuck around in the gym?

I mean I'm not lazy about it but I just train for the sake of training.

For example today is:

jumping pullups and swingers, set a timer for 15min and do work

Push press 2-3 rep sets until too fatigued I can't make the reps.

Jefferson deadlift same as above, on the side that fails first do an extra set at 80% working weight AMRAP

Front squat lockouts off pins to a max

Possibly shoulder/arm pump work if I'm still feeling it.

I've been doing loads of volume lately so I feel like it's time for a strength phase, before I hear shit for the triples.

>>40435164
who fucking cares balding is probably going to be cured within like 5 years at this point anyway

especially if you are a rich jew cough

>>40435091
nah, trump will fail to maga as it looks by now and i only box, no mma for me ;)

why you like winny though? it is but a necessary evil for most, with due respect.

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>>40435171
my eyelid twitches just reading this

but to each his own m80

>>40435174
Balding is worse than death, especially when a buzz cut doesn't suit you

Everything is about looks. You feel good if you look good, period

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>>40435189
dries me out, look all nice n hard.
and trump is a true alpha, make no mistake

>>40435164
Well, try it and see. Should not wreck you too hard if you really do have no MPB in your genes whatsoever.

>>40435199
The jumping pullup is jumping to a bar, pulling up, dropping and repeat. It's just meant to make a pullup more explosive, and gives maximum ROM. If that's what's triggering you. Swingers is just like monkey bar shenanigans.

>>40435167
Facial hair is technically body hair, so that is kind of where people disagree about androgenics and their effect on it.

My twig arms won't grow guise. Chest and back swells up and just makes me look like a retarded potato with toothpicks sticking out. I've been hitting them twice a week, thinking about doing them every day now. Advice?

>>40435240
Change your exercises for arms.

I say hammer curls and db rollbacks for maximum mass utilization. Change up the rep range you usually use for them too.

>>40435220
fair enough lol. i loathe it but it does work wonders sometimes yeah

>>40435228
mix of mere shitposting and me being a sperg who plans his workouts to the fucking t and just wings actual rep count based on fatigue. but if you get gains and have fun, nothing else matters indeed.

>>40435171
I feel ya bro, I usually follow a program but on free days I like just doing random shit

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>>40435234
I know, but not shedding from mast is the biggest bs every. If it wasn't for this meme hair stack i would be bald right now even though nobody is balding in my family

>>40435240
Somehow it's either big chest or big arms most of the time.

Try different exercises and monitor each exercise/sets/reps routine etc to see what it does. I do the same for chest

>>40435271
You do your own programming from the ground up or adapt other's stuff you fit?

What's your goals?

I'm bored someone talk to me about training ffs

>>40435228
Well he is not wrong, crossfit is literally training for the sake of training without a clue kek

>>40435305
Nah CrossFit actually does have training objectives and competitions.

Like the kipping pullup is tech for competition where the goal is just reps, period.

>>40435293
I never shed much from dht based stuff but I never ran any of them past 400mg, ever, so who the fuck knows what would happen at higher doses. Mirin luscious mane though, I do the memestack too but my results are less rewarding for now lol

>>40435325
>tfw could troll and shitpost for hours now but lack time and focus

Another time, friend.

>>40435118
Wew. Which source is it? Or are you not allowed to say because "source talk"?
The one I ordered from has a rep, too, but he's never been known to sell bunk. Still making me a little nervous.

>>40435334
i also shed from high test is the past, but doesn't test convert to dht at higher dose?

I kid you not, maybe i am lucky this meme stack prevent me from balding. Normally i would be thinning like crazy at this dose

since keto + scalp exercises my left temple hairline is straight again, It was slightly receding. Especially when i just came out of bed and shower it was really showing. My whole life was just about my hair line from then. I didn't care about anything else. Balding is worse than death, JM was right

it's so a relief to not care about balding

PSO + SAW = THICKNESS, like insane thickness
SCALP + KETO + BIOTIN = HAIR REGROWTH

that's how i experienced it

>>40435302
>You do your own programming from the ground up or adapt other's stuff you fit?
both. i usually do it from scratch based on goals and diet/roid intake but of course peeking over some coaches and athletes work never hurts while finetuning

>What's your goals?
am stronkman, so precomp and comp goals are being stronk as fuck. offseason is mainly adding mass (preferably bloof free) for the ladies and to have more to work with during strength periodization. i also just really like to mong around with heavy shit, all my other hobbies are meh and sparse lol

>>40435118
>>40435373
Nevermind, I think I just found it, lel.
>same test as natty while blasting over 500mg/wk
>absolutely no test while cruising
RIP

>>40435391
Word, to literally all of that. Especially the biotin, while far from the only factor, plays a huge role. Keeping my intake up to par made a (subjectively) massive difference even before I added in the rest.

>>40435255
right on... any suggestions for delts?

>>40435293
true, my body has the big arm small chest problem. Or that his arms are just so fucking big they dwarf his chest

>>40435423
*buddy

>>40435423
I never had sore delts from anything but presses. So I do a shitton of overhead work. But really man not everyone is the same, you gotta own your workouts.

>>40433641
Same initials as Toilet Paper?

>>40435460
Do dips they hit mine p hard

>>40435421
And it has no side effects like minox that fuckup my eye lids because i wanted to use it for beard gains. I don't know about fina and duta but i read that shit can fuck wih your dick

>>40435423
Both & also indeed :The bigger your arms get the smaller your chest look if it doesn't grow as fast as your arms

>>40435305
>>40435325
My old roommate did cross fit and was both bigger and stronger than me. Albeit he also went the gym with me every day and he cruised on tren. But crossfire did wonders for his legs they were massive.

>>40435394
Sick. I respect strongman 100x more than PL. You can't be an unconditioned fat blob and get anywhere with SM. At least not until you're the size of a small truck.

What weight class you compete in?

You have access to implements?

>>40433037
i dont think ostarine is hepatoxic, could be wrong though

>>40435505
Yeah Cf isn't exactly awful it's just different. Definitely requires strength and athleticism at the higher levels. Of course not every gym is the same, and it's marketed to hell so is pricey and snobby though....

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>>40435505
>cruised on tren

>>40435536
We sold test to his fellow CF people for $80 a vial so I'm a fan.

>>40435541
I plan on 6 month tren blast all through the summer.

>>40435563
I plan on 10 month tren blast + 1 extra month to account for the enanthate ester "kicking in" :^)

>>40435504
Fuck minox and all it stands for, fina works but gave me dick sides at the greedy doses I ran kek, never used duta but common opinion among friends is pretty meh.

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>1st proper date tomorrow since splitting up with my ex

Should I pin 2mcg MTren pre date?

>>40435683
Examine yourself and your motivations pre-date

What do you want

Why

And then be completely honest and straightforward. Be a fucking man, never beat around the bush.

>>40435511
>Sick. I respect strongman 100x more than PL.
no h8 for them but sm has more carryover to life/daytime job for me kek

>You can't be an unconditioned fat blob and get anywhere with SM. At least not until you're the size of a small truck.
you should see some of the local guys, literally just gods try how tight you can wrap a belly around beer and pork. some bodyfat is needed cause you aint gotta lift and carry heavy shit with 12% shredded abs but yeah, no free ticket to being a fat slob

>What weight class you compete in?
i by now only compete in local semi-pro shit (yuropfag) anymore to teach the newfags some manners, those only have sub 95kg and over 95kg, i compete in the latter cause 100kg (minor bloof) currently and most of those 105+kg are fat useless 40%bf easy to outrun cunts anyway lol

>You have access to implements?
yep, shed full of atlas and yoke and axle and shit, plus dedicated stronkgym two towns over. silly fun

>>40435683
1 pre date & another 2 pre sex lmao

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Will test help with penile growth?

>>40435819
if ur 12 years old

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>>40435782
Powerlifting is a fucking shit 'sport' and its current iteration honestly is the worst thing to happen to the strength training""""community"""" in the last 50 years.

The only lift it gets right is the squat, first off. The other two are unnecessarily hamstrung and constantly gamed.

Two it attracts absolute fucking autistic retards. Muh big three fags. Like it's fucking boring seeing everyone only trying at all on three lifts. Do some crazy shit that's heavy you pussy.

Three it encourages being a fucking fatass and unconditioned. Yeah there are weight classes, but the majority of the retards are 18+% anyway.

It just sucks in people who otherwise would follow the True Path™ of strength training for the sake of being strong as fuck, a big guy, etc. With a sense of 'community'. "Powerlifting is serious. We're not like those bb fags LMAO" *proceeds to rest 15 minutes between sets of doubles on bench*

Without it there'd be more variety in all the lifting being done now, and people probably wouldn't excuse being a pasty unconditioned fatass as easily (maybe anyway, people are shit in general)

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>>40435832
I'm 21 is there no hope for me

>>40435905
Blasting obscene amounts of HGH might give you an inch or two maximum

at the cost of thousands of dollars and other complications.

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>>40435890
>arching your back and not holding the bar on your chest for 2 seconds

yeah the bench press is the worst part about the sport. i also wonder why the OHP hasnt been apart of powerlifting when its easily the most impressive lift to see.

oh well atleast strongman is cooler and has just as much variety as crossfit can when training and competing however its a whole lot heavier

>>40435782
>>40435890
Ok ranting aside lmao

>Shredded
You'd be surprised. Check out Stan Efferding. I don't believe that you need fat to be strong. It only makes sense for really big framed guys who permabulk.

>Fatties being slow and shit
No shame at all. Like seriously how can you fucking stand yourself to be so out of shape.

Jealous of implements. I don't have shit at my gym. Plenty of bars and racks at least. I'm pondering buying a few kegs just for home so I can do some real carries.

>>40435965
OHP is more easily cheated than bench.

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>>40435965
Ask plg

They just make excuses about 'too hard to judge'

Like holy shit, not it's not. Just say"no knee bend" or if you want leg drive, balls of feet don't leave the ground. Let the lifters do whatever they can to get the bar up otherwise, this shit ain't ballet

i literally want so bad to see a fatass powerlifter wear a tshirt saying "morbidly obeast"

>>40435959
define obscene

>>40435997
Then loosen the rules so it's not 'cheating'

Christ it's not fucking synchronized swimming

>>40435997
i can see that if your pushing for strict form instead of going for push pressing.

yeah i get that. its still impressive to see people throw up heavy numbers though. just change the rules.

>>40436001
idk whats wrong with them but i dont even bother adding more weight to the bar if i have to arch my back. i never saw it as a smart thing to do. especially since i dont use a spotter.

the mixed grip dead lift causes imbalances, imo double over hand is goat. but thats hardly the major issue with the sport.

the real fucking issue is the wheight belt and body suits. i understand the safety aspect of it once you hit a beyond heavy wheight and im fine with that usage. however what realy matter in points is nothing but a shirt and shorts. as raw as possible.

training with anything else is just gonna fuck up your breathing and as a result your core doesnt get activated as much.

but fuck it. ive got my meme workouts and they got theres

>>40435890
lel why so mad

i do agree though, on all of those. even though your third point is vastly worse in my sport on all but the full time pro level for some contestants

>>40435978
efferding is a fucking freak, in a good way. but i have made the however anecdotal experience that there is a sweet point between permabulk fatass and bb vain faggotry that fits me well. the bare effort of cutting to visible abs would get in the way of dat dere bearmode strength otherwise. i have met somewhat ripped strongmen but they are rare and have crazy diets and stacks, not something i can see myself doing year round at my age (mid thirties) lol

>>40436083
>idk whats wrong with them but i dont even bother adding more weight to the bar if i have to arch my back. i never saw it as a smart thing to do. especially since i dont use a spotter.
How would anyone spot an OHP?

But really it's not crazy unsafe unless you've got a thin and bendy spine (an actual thing, good for golf and acrobatics)

If you're not built like a pussy, have a thick midsection and strong ass erectors, you'll be fine. People have been doing that shit for centuries.

>>40436144
>How would anyone spot an OHP?

i was saying that in relation to the bench press

the OHP though idk how i would implement it.

> People have been doing that shit for centuries.

true that just workout your back more and you'll be safe from anything.

>>40436127
It's just diet that's the key for body composition and performance once you have training and 'supplements' set

Like, using Efferding, the dude's macros are 50% fats, 27 protein and 23 carbs. Unusual but it obviously works

>>40436028
>>40436083

But then you are back to shit tier turbo arches like on bench.

I don't want to see some retarded standing incline press, do you?

>>40435645
You're alright glands. How them blacktops?

>tfw still too poor to order enough HGH to make it work while
Also if you ever need any criminal stuff done for money I'll give you my email.

>>40436187
Yeah but you aren't laying fucking down.

All that weight is at least supported by you not the the bench. And you have to return to standing erect, you can't ignore rom.

Mostly it's not the laying fucking down.

>>40436249
I don't see how laying down is a problem.

Don't get me wrong, a strong OHP is fucking impressive, but when it comes to "fairness" they are almost identical.

I wouldn't mind seeing it added though.

>>40436231
Lmfao hit me up with that email, don't immediately need anything but i might soon.

Also this hgh is no joke... my forearms, hands, neck, feet, and lower legs feel like they are gonna burst from the water retention. Maybe this means one day i will not be a wristlet.

It's also nice to be able to sleep for once.

I notice it makes me feel at peace and my whole body feel good, i don't know how to explain it.

>want to label myself as a vegan
>will be secretly mixing whey and casein with my soy isolate


Seems really scummy mates, but i kind of need the insurance

>>40436277
Because you put all the energy through your shoulders straight into the bench.

Because you're applying power through your midsection and thighs.

How do you not get this?

>>40436551
>need the insurance

You should be good bro if all the aminos are there and your total protein is good.

I was thinking about trying a vegan diet out for a bit too. Just to improve cholesterol and blood pressure if anything. Plus it seems super cheap

>dad needs help moving shit outside
>take off hoodie
>him "you are getting fucking bulked!"
>him "so what do you USE?"
>me: "what?"
>him "you know, what are you USING"
>i say that im actually eating food again and lifting after all this time of not doing so, from glands depression
>he just looks at me weird
>him: "must be the protein powder"

the gigs up

although he believes jeff seid is natty so whatever

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Do you tell your friends and family that you use steroids?

>>40436603

I just like it cause itll make me appear from feminine and intellectual.

Plus everyone knows it gives that person an undeserved ego boost

>>40436665
>roiding to appear feminine

>>40436660
one of my sisters knows
my gf knows
most of my friends know

>>40436665
lolwut

I like the idea because it's carbs on carbs on carbs on carbs baby

>>40436692

>his face doesnt remain feminine and boyish even with tren and winny
>doesnt want to just have a lite version of jeremy buendias body

Too bad for ya moonface man. I actually want to make mad cash out of roiding via sugar daddies and whoring social media as a vegan

>>40436660
Yeah.

My gf pins me. Or used to now I just do it myself bc she's afraid do anything other than upper outer glute.
My mom pinned me because she was a nurse and I wanted to learn the ventro glute.
My dad knows because I want to convince him to hop on.
My friends know because I tell them everything anyways.

>>40436760
>My mom pinned me
Jorge wants to be hardcore and his mom DOES let him

>>40436733

Even as a vegan im not eating rice or bread.

Thats pajeet shit.

does canadian post tracking not fucking update at all? its been like 3 days and just says "in transit"

>>40436660
i am "blessed" with hypogonadism so i can openly tell everyone who askes my story and show them my proper hospital papers and shit.

the real dosages i take is another matter though haha only my 2 gymbros know cause the are on too

>>40430021

I have acne that is fairly prominent on my shoulders and sort of back. I've been off any juice for at least two months but it hasn't really dissipated. I heard that sometimes roiding can cause permanent acne? Is this true?

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I'm wondering why in high school D.A.R.E. told me that steroids are terrible and will kill you and make all your hair fall out and there's nothing you can do about it. After I did my independent research here and elsewhere and then started using light steroids myself, I realized how exaggerated the claims of danger are.

Is it the same way for other kinds of drugs too? I would say that regular alcohol consumption is at least as dangerous and damaging to the body as doing a few light steroid cycles of testosterone enanthate. I have no interest in doing heroin or cocaine, but I would like to know if the claims of danger are overblown. I take high interest in the topic of drugs of abuse and I want to know what an effective anti-drugs program for high schools would be like. I don't think exaggeration works.

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>>40436823

>>40436775
the fuck do you eat then?

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lol

>>40436802
might be but the magic word here is accutane
>>40436823
i'll put it this way, if alcohol would be discovered in this time, it wouldnt be legal. it would probably be classified as a dangerous as fuck poison cause it literally is poison

and yes if you scare someone off you dont have to worry about them trying it out as much.
that being said do research and be aware of what you getting

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>>40436823
I think anabolic steroids are unique in the drug category.

Recreational drugs can get very bad very fast, with anabolic steroids you'd need to be running retarded doses and completely fuck up your heart.

Anabolic steroids are a bit like drinking/smoking, yes it will probably fuck you a teeny bit in the long run but they are a lot more safer.

I'd say recreational drugs are dangerous, but a lot less than they make it out to be.

If you have the self control to keep everything to a minimum then you're fine except noone can do this.

>>40436823
>D.A.R.E.
>in high school

lol

>>40436895

Baked beans with chickpeas and kidney beans. Veggie spring rolls, fallafels, tomato sauces with a bit of pasta, couscous, hummous, tofu, various types of soups.

Also vegan cottage pie, lasagna,dumplings etc literally half the cals of meat eater shit.

Soy isolate with almond milk is amazing.

>>40433076
They are just cramps you fat pussie

>>40436660
I always tell girls I've been dating for a bit. I don't like hiding things from partners.

Some gym friends know, but I'm trying not to spread that any more than I need to.

I haven't told any family, but I could tell mom if I wanted to. We've discussed the inevitability of it with my training goals.

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>>40436960
god damn that sounds fucking good.

Not sure where you're from but if you have a store near you that sells pic related, they're so good and filling. Tons of protein too.

>>40436551
>Soy
>Advised as a supplement for menopausal women

>B-but it's not estrogenic!

Then again you're on roids so it's not as bad

>>40436622
Should have said creatine or fish oil lmao

All lazy normies think it's supplement stacks

>>40435645
Tren e was given such a bad rep. When I go back on it, I'm going straight w that.
>>40436622
>>40436660

i've told my dad lifting without roids is stupid if you want muscles, and he should trt. i think he just knows, but too scared to ask.
my sister who has had bf's who try and be gym guys, i'm sure they say things
my gril knows i do, but embarrassed how i'm mediocre wise w my physique atm from a long cruise and eating shit. she dont care

>>40437054

>soy estrogen meme myth

Even natties are unaffected. Just get some testolyze from dave palumbo

>>40437073
How is it a myth. They literally recommend it as a supplement for menopausal women. Google it.

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>>40437073
top meme faggot.


Babies fed soy-based formula have 13,000 to 22,000 times more estrogen compounds in their blood than babies fed milk-based formula. Infants exclusively fed soy formula receive the estrogenic equivalent of at least four birth control pills per day.

Male infants undergo a testosterone surge during the first few months of life, when testosterone levels may be as high as those of an adult male. During this period, baby boys are programmed to express male characteristics after puberty, not only in the development of their sexual organs and other masculinity traits, but also in setting patterns in the brain characteristic of male behavior.

In animals, studies indicate that phytoestrogens in soy are powerful endocrine disrupters. Soy infant feeding -- which floods the bloodstream with female hormones that inhibit testosterone -- cannot be ignored as a possible cause of disrupted development patterns in boys, including learning disabilities and attention deficit disorder.

Male children exposed to DES, a synthetic estrogen, had testes smaller than normal on maturation and infant marmoset monkeys fed soy isoflavones had a reduction in testosterone levels up to 70 percent compared to milk-fed controls.

Almost 15 percent of white girls and 50 percent of African-Americans girls show signs of puberty, such as breast development and pubic hair, before the age of eight. Some girls are showing sexual development before the age of three. Premature development of girls has been linked to the use of soy formula and exposure to environmental estrogen-mimickers such as PCBs and DDE. Intake of phytoestrogens even at moderate levels during pregnancy can have adverse affects on the developing fetus and the timing of puberty later in life.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/12/04/soy-dangers-summarized.aspx
http://naturalhygienesociety.org/diet-veganbaby.html

>>40434335
The cough is because it got directly into your blood mate

>>40437135
Fucking thank you.

Too lazy to link shit

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>>40437153
>i read this on t-nation so it must be true!

>>40437135

Well dont fuckin eat soy as a kid then.

Thats like saying hgh or dbol is dangerous cause 2 year old timmy grew a 6th finger cause you gave him some pfizer humatropin.

>>40437155
if its fermented though its at least comparable to the rest of the phytoestrogen rich plants though in concentration. rather than being higher than flax seed which is pretty fucking chock full of it.

using it and its oils which is where the phytoestrogens are thickest, and unfermeted soy protien, turns shitty fast food and snack food into a double wammy on the endocrine system worse so than standard sugar does damage on your metabolism.

its a creeping threat to a population that doesnt have the genes to processes it like the asian population does.

i forgot the link for that one but its intriguing indeed.

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>>40437135
Could this be a possible cause for why female puberty is happening at an earlier age than ever before?

>>40437197
he's right dough

how else does it get to your lungs pantalones de caca?

>>40437207
It's funny. Because Americans consume more than 2x the soy per capita than China. It's gross.

Beef n broccoli boys. Remember that

>>40437198

no idea on the whole soy debate, but I kek'd

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>>40437297
partial reason but cheese, fats, and milk have naturally occurring estrogen in it. not technically as bad but the boost in testostrone from fats in the diet probaly contributes to it.

that and eating lots of food tends to make women more fertile quicker, just like men eating more meat build more muscle.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2213453013000438

take this all with salt but its clearly found everywhere in our foods. fuck there isnt a protien bar without soy protien being its main ingredient now a days. pea protien would be safer in regards of content.

>>40437198
>Thats like saying hgh or dbol is dangerous cause 2 year old timmy grew a 6th finger cause you gave him some pfizer humatropin.
awww man was i not supposed to do that?

>>40437353
>there isnt a protien bar without soy protien being its main ingredient now a days
so I shouldn't buy protein bars anymore?

>>40437301
Its still isn't proven, some people say its because of the esthers, some say BA oil concentration has to do with it and then there's the people who say its veins.

I aspirated and Z-track'd and there was no blood after.

Seems very unlikely.

>>40437297
The post you're responding to literally says that

>>40437369
no you should check the labels of everything you eat and make your own protien bars.

ill never drop ice cream but ill be dammed if i dont look at the label and atleast consider whats in it.

>>40437198
would be fine if it wasnt so fucking prevalent

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>>40437135
>before the age of eight

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>>40437387
Is this a good recipe? I don't think anything in there has estrogens

Is it wrong of me to tell a 15 year old that I will have sex with her when she is 18?

>>40437374
it hasn't happened to me (yet) but it sounds fucking awful talking to others who have experienced it

>>40437374
you nicked a vein
>aspirating
kek

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what's a good dosage for dbol run on first 4 weeks together with 500 mg test e cycle?

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>>40437416
drop the flax seed and check the protien powder.

but yeah you cant avoid all sources so mitigation is all that matters.

google phytoestrogen content and consider your diet. avoid the ones with the highest but i wouldnt worry avoiding all the minor content sources.

eating more broccli and cabbage will help with the excess estrogen that you probably already get from junk food. but thats due to indole 3 which then metabolizes into the body to DIM, which is what helps reduce E2.

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>>40437461

>>40437473
I'm always conservative so I shoot for 30mg/day. 15mg with breakfast, 15mg pre workout

How much salary do u guys make to comfortably use gear.

I'm going on test soon but only gonna have a summer job. Don't really need it in winter anyways unless I can afford it.

Out of college I'm expecting to make $70k hopefully and then more if I make connections and work up the ladder

>>40437535
Lmao I'm poor and afford gear just fine. It's cheaper than food.

>>40437606
what kinda fucking food are you eating

>>40437632
Probably healthy food retard.

Or dick

adex or asin?

>>40437707
adex has less sides for me desu.

asin is slightly easier on dosing and frequency.

>>40437535
... it costs $300 for a 15 week supply of Test E + all PCT and HCG with BAC water... If you can't afford that you are fucking homeless

I really don't want my upper traps on either side of my neck to grow ridiculously big after my first steroid cycle. i know those muscles have a high number of androgen receptors so they have high potential to grow. How do I avoid growing them at all costs?

>>40437767
dont train them.

They will get a little bigger, but if you dont train them barely so.

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>>40437735
>hcg
>pct

>>40437767
Don't target them. Unless you have a genetic propensity for it, it won't happen. I never directly hit traps, most I do is deadlifts and heavy rows, and they're not particularly impressive. Started doing snatch grip high pulls recently because I want them to grow, and they're exploding

>>40437767
If you're asking that question don't worry, they won't get big.

>>40437786
I said "All PCT and HCG," implying they are separate things. You're dumb like a monkey.

>>40437651
oh he probably meant not including

HUMAN
GROWTH
H O R M O N E

>>40437802
>>40437825
OK cool. I wasn't sure if the simple act of having extremely high testosterone would make them grow even without exercise.

I noticed that the cut-off point for many women between "he's hot" and "ew he is too big.. gross :(" is gigantic fucking traps.

>>40437535
>70k
Lmao

>>40437854
>>I noticed that the cut-off point for many women between "he's hot" and "ew he is too big.. gross :(" is gigantic fucking traps.
more like the cutoff is insulin or being a fat fuck, or garbage insertions/proportions

pretty sure no one except teenage girls would say calum von moger is too big for example. all about dem aesthetics which is why i will never fucking touch insulin

>>40437848
Did you seriously set yourself up just to brag about non pharmacy gh?

Lame.
>>40437871
I'm returning Nioh. Found an Asian bimbo.

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>>40437871
Yeah jerry fuckface you can enjoy your 6 figguhs and you nice little cuckmobile Audi but you're wife ain't gonna fuck YOU just for bringing in beta bux

>>40437767
Lmfao why the fuck are you even lifting

I think you might have better luck with a cycling class you giant vagina

>>40437926
>le pharma meme when bloods show theyre the same shit

>hur but the GH serum tests for generics are invalid because generics are actually 192aa!

>>40437838
I was implying pct and hcg is for quitting sissies, will you calm the fuck down?

>>40437838
pct and hcg are for fucking faggots unless you mean keeping it on hand "just in case"

although the basic bitch "pct" i bought a year ago probably won't be enough to do jack shit with how long i have been on and how much shit i have been using

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>>40437990
amen.
btw have to wait till march now as you know >:(
where abouts on the east coast are you?
upstate ny area reporting

>>40437926
Thats a poor decision
Videogames are better than any girl

>>40437927
She'll do whatever I want
Ill fill her up

>>40437926
The only thing positive on his life his mom hasnt bought him
OH WAIT

>>40438302
you're a fucking weaboo worthless shithead.

i hate pathetic people like you

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>>40438326

Is fatigue a common side of ostarine?

Been one week and I'm tired a shit... Also taking Zyrtec for allergies, but that usually doesn't have sides for me.

>>40438342
lol

>>40438326
"people"

>>40438351
What's fucking funny you faggot, weren't you banned for being a bitch?

Fraud has been so slow recently cmon

>>40437926
Still broken up with the girl?

>>40438086
North NJ since December for me

About to go to the gym despite being sick all day and calling out of work. Can't sit on this couch watching Sopranos anymore.

>>40438339
This guy thinks 40 pounds = screaming in the mirror? What a bitch.

>>40438373
lol his test levels of 0 from his stupid fucking sarms are making him angsty

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>>40438373
>calling someone a faggot when you're doing a meme oral sarm only cycle

did your dad hold a syringe while he was slapping your faggot ass or why are you this ptsd over needles?

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>>40438326
>you're a fucking weaboo

(you)

>>40438386
sick days are always good for cardio and some pump. usually feel better after too.
i;ve been planted on the couch while my gril does laundry and make me food. tough life. ive been meaning to watch sopranos

>>40438398
>jerry_trying_to_impress_girls.gif

>"itll be just like in my anime"

Hey guys, hypothetical knowledge question here:

what would happen if a relatively untrained guy (say 3 months of training with proper diet + exercise discipline to ensure it was consistent) did a first cycle with good research and understanding.

Something simple for a beginner, e.g.
Test 500mg/wk
HCG
AI
PCT

for a 12 week cycle. Let's assume this individual is aged 22-23, 6'2, 75kg (165lb) and 10-12% bodyfat.

The usual concern about untrained individuals jumping on gear is that they'll lose everything when they come off because they wont maintain correct diet and training discipline, not the case for this individual.

Another common concern is lack of knowledge/research, but this individual would have bloods before/during/after the cycle and would be doing a simple test-based cycle with all necessary PCT and safeguards on hand (e.g. rapid E2 lowering).

Surely therefore in this individual, he would make rapid gains (with good training + diet) and quickly jump from a skinny 75kg to a respectable 80-85kg - still within his genetic limit - in just a single cycle? Are there any issues that i'm missing? Yes, the individual can make those gains naturally given time, but apart from potential immaturity of character causing him to want to speed things up, what could go wrong?

at what dose of test do you guys feel like you need an ai?

>>40438427
can you fucking kill yourself
>le *nasal voice* INDIVIDUAL

shut the fuck up holy shit

>>40438394
>>40438396
Why is this dumb nigger talking to me

Someone's who entire body tried to kill himself doesn't get to give out advice

And I'm on 250mg of test for the past 2 years

>>40438430
i don't need it on 250 but i needed it when i ran 500 test a while ago

>>40438445
ok I used that word too much, I agree sorry. But about the actual question itself?

>>40438467
if you know all this diet and training shit why are you 165lbs at 6'2? because you dont or because you're a fag who gives up every 2 weeks

especially easy to tell from the way you type. you have extreme autism.

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>>40438418
fucking kek

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>>40438483
>especially easy to tell from the way you type. you have extreme autism.
This is what I think on all of your posts
Im so mad for missing when you were banned

>>40438326
What
>MOMMY HE POSTED AN ANIME GIRL ON MY NAZI SITE!!

>>40438483
Because I was 135lb at 6'2 in January of last year, and after a fucking year+ of effort ive got to 165 but because of my fucking lanklet status i'll still look like a skinny bitch till im minimum 185. But the gains arent coming anywhere near as easily as they were when I was a recovering skeleton and I just wanna do a single simple cycle to get where I want to be before my last summer of uni so I can lose my virginity. happy now?

>>40438522
>I just wanna do a single simple cycle to get where I want to be before my last summer of uni so I can lose my virginity
lol

see jerry for how you are gonna wind up

>girls dont wanna fuck me because im 165lbs instead of 185lbs!!!

>>40438518
i was banned for only 24 hours, wtf?

for telling some retard 20 year old to kill himself for being "in love" with a mid 50s single mom, because "she is an amazing person"

>>40438522
girls only care about how alpha you act so long as your not completely ugly. your body is not a high priority for women, unless bar sluts is what your aiming for.

>>40438542
i dunno who jerry is. Girls currently want to fuck because im not an autistic virgin but they're at best 5/10. I want to lose it with a hot girl which will be easier once im much more happy with my own body at 185. and anyways none of this is fucking relevant. I just wanted to ask if there were any legitimate downsides to cycling now, when i'm still far from my genetic limit. If I could please talk to someone about that I would really appreciate it.

>>40438569
>im not an autistic virgin

>le *nasal voice* INDIVIDUAL

brb injecting hgh

I am about to test/dbol for first cycle.

Had acne, cured it with accutane. Now, ive read about people getting acne from steroids and I'm getting a bit scared to even start.

>pussy out
Or
>yolo just do it faggot

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>>40438550
You shouldnt tell other people to kill themselves qhen youve been overdosing on whatever you can get for like 5 months in the hope you ran your last raid
Very inconsiderate

>>40438569
This is such a mistake
Women are all whores who only care about money and power

Put on an expensive watch and throw a cucumber in your pants for a huge bulge
Youll sleep with 19 10s before you get in your car

>>40438593
ok, lets just ignore what I said about women etc. Even if not for them, I would still want to be 185lb at least. So about my original question, am I missing any potential downsides?

>>40438550
Bahahaha he fucking should. We need to clean this fucking gene pool up

When's the next war.

>>40438607
No you got it
But roids are a life style upgrade and I dint think youll stick with it
But you would explode in muscle if you dont break your joints 1st

>>40438593
Is that literally all you got?

There's a difference between sheer chance disease and being a worthless human being

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>>40438607
> 185lb at least

arbitrary number bby it doesnt matter how big you are if you look like shit.

>literally dream about balding almost every night now
>still haven't lost any hair irl

this place is toxic

>>40438607
You'll still look skinny as shit at 185 unless you have no legs and core.

And if you have no legs and core you're basically one of those skinny whores chasing the 'thigh gap'

>>40438643
My 13 year old brother is over 200lbs at 5'6, must be so aesthetic right

>>40438647
Literally had a dream last night that i had a super ass recessed hairline

Tren + hgh dreams

>>40438664
hes bigger than you though :D

>>40438664
Don't be a shit he's obviously talking about while lean.

Even if he is being kinda naive at best


Also megadose melatonin and dph with your shit, that's gonna be such freaky dreams. Maybe set an alarm so you wake up and remember them

>>40438640
Yes Im glad we agree he is a worthless human being

Anyone else have a bigger dick after injecting testosterone? I'm on my first cycle and my dick is getting harder and bigger than before

>>40438718
Jerry you're such a fucking coward you cannot even talk to women

But you're sitting here calling Glands worthless

Fucking beta rage huh?

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>>40438743
me.
I've even had xgf's I ran back to wonder what has happened

>>40438765
ok just wanted to check i didn't get radioactive test

>>40438634
>>40438661

thanks bros

yeah I don't plan to stop at 185, but lean (basically ottermode) with some bulk in the right places will mean im confident to take my shirt off at the beach/pool etc this summer. After that it's onwards and upwards with a final goal of 205-210.

many thanks again, i'll post pics afterwards and let you know how I got on.

>>40438664
fuck you unhelpful cunt, at least the others here were happy to not shit on me for asking a question which could have just been answered with a "yes there's no problems doing a cycle in that scenario". I hope all your gains fall off and your balls shrivel to dust.

>>40438802
>>40438802
The quickest way to look big as fuck to anyone is boulder shoulders and thick ass traps with abs

So make sure you train the fuck out of your traps and shoulders and don't get fat like my retarded ass. Also tris fill the fuck out of your sleeves, way more than biceps

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>about to do first pin
>sat in the bathroom for an hour and pussed out

If I could get a bro to do it I would be fine but having to do that shit yourself is too much. How am I scared of a tiny little needle fuck

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>>40438790
tren made it feel very thick n full too
>>40438855
>don't get fat like my retarded ass
you get swole, girls flock, your days consist of fucking and eating, then lose aesthetics
my life the past 2 yrs

>>40438909
Get in a knife fight. Then the needle won't seem so scary

You giant pussy

>>40438921
I fell for the permabulk bullshit, like the goddamn moron I am. Cutting to sub 10% and I'm gonna stay under 12 the rest of my life I swear to Christ

>>40438683
lol i actually have melatonin right here from being retardedly paranoid about my first dnp run

>>40438909
first time i pinned i literally just did it. probably took just as long as one of my pins now, cuz i fucking read about it so much i knew exactly what to do and there was no point hesitating

>>40438921
tfw ate fast food yesterday because "dude tren and hgh itll all go to muscle"

when my exams are over (have like 3 tests this week) i am gonna add the superdrol back in (stopped taking it a few days ago because the lethargy from sdrol + hgh + tren + pilocarpine would make me fail everything)

then maybe ill start eating cake and pizza on the reg too

>>40438953
me too

the worst is when you're halfway through the blast and you KNOW you got way too fat but you don't really want to waste the rest of the blast cutting either so you just become even fatter

it's hell

>>40438427
>what could go wrong

You don't know how to train without gear yet. You don't even know what your body is capable of. You have no idea what you're doing yet. You'll hop on, make good gains, but have fuck-all of a clue on how to keep them so you'll blast eternally until one day you just give up and become a fat pile of shit. It's a marathon, not a sprint.

>>40438953
being fat and muscled is better than underbulking though IMO. if you see a fat fuck with muscle thats less disgusting than a little skinny fucking bitchboy

at least to me. although i might be biased based on certain people i know who refuse to fucking eat while bulking and stay twigs

>>40438976
my waist size actually went down in the past month even tho i am gaining weight so called "too fast"

tren sdrol hgh amirite

although most of the weight is probably glycogen/bloat from these stupid ass compounds (and the chinese food, lel)

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>>40438976
I'm convinced everyone fucking lied to me and my diet should be entirely protein and just enough fats and carbs to keep lifting heavy.

Basically carb cycling.

>>40438994
a pint of ice cream and 1 pizza for your 4th meal isnt gonna make a dent in your fat %.

i ate like that twice a week when i was pounding out tons of cardio on top of my wheight lifting.

my bodywheight didnt fucking budge and my back was growing lots more then, since i had just fixed my meme workouts to be more wheight lifting oriented instead of pure cardio.

with your stack you may even need more than that who knows. lol keep the updates flowing.

>>40434670
I liked winny
Just cant stay on it very long

>>40439031
>>a pint of ice cream
idk, sugar fucking disgusts me unless I get super hypo. even then its mostly a few bites and then its back to being completely unappealing. i dont get how people sit there and eat like giant cakes and stuff.

i am all about that salty ass food tho...

>brb 200/180 BP

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Anyone else learn how to be a man by watching yu yu hakusho?

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>>40438994
Literally never thought you would say that considering all the vitrol you gave when I mentioned strength training one time, assumed I was a pl, and then proceeded to just call me a fatass repeatedly

But being a fatass is only acceptable if you're a real fucking monster not a permabulking "amateur powerlifter"

>>40438953
>stay under 12%
I say this, then always fail to delish food ;__;
>>40438959
lucky fuck.
sdrol was great when i first started doing it.
then over the years i realized i felt lethargic as fuck on it.
i only go 4 weeks on it, so i'll usually just do a long af wini run instead. i do miss the instant 10lbs tho

>>40439054
yeah buddy deep fry your life away. get yourself a wok and a noodle press.

fried rice and brown buttered eggs all day every day.

> i dont get how people sit there and eat like giant cakes and stuff

fucked up insluin makes it real easy to feel the hunger when your spiking your sugar levels out of control.

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>40439100
i feel for the bait.

>>40438744
Yes its the same issue, im so jealous of him talking to his bitch mom!