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>Age
>Body fat %
>Lifting experience

M A G A

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tfw australian

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>>40414315

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>>40414302
pls be my AI gf

also need an update on jerry i gib you picture for sacrifice

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>>40414407
I don't have any info on jerry beyond what everyone here gets unfortunately so here's his waifu to make up for that.

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>>40414547
heres one for you my redpilled scientist

>>40414547
CUTE!
CUUUTTTEEEE!!!

>>40415114
gib update how are you doing ?

If DNP is illegal why can I go to ebay and find DNP for sale there?

Is that just fake stuff or am I missing something here?

>>40415138
Good
Leg is 100%, just need to stretch it for more ROM.
I was doing pmsf but I have a new position at worj so Im doing a normal cut but im positive I drink enough to counter that
C'est la vie

>>40415218
well cutting tends to be easier when your salt is balanced out, but are you past the 5lbs of instant water loss on the diet?

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slow thread heres my only post to pick it up.

While everyone else is partying and shit i just injected hgh

When should i feel this shit

>>40415256
Yeah

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Jesus. What do they feed the girls in Argentina? They must start them young whatever it is.

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>>40415760
What brand did you end up getting?

>>40415201
it's not illegal

>>40415993
Black tops

Starting to feel it i think

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>>40416029
Cool. Hopefully they're legit, how many IU are you going to run?

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>>40415981
They need to stop

>>40416029
Fl2.0

Experiences with dbol?

>>40416320
developed nice juicy titties

Undecided on my oral kick starter.

Ive still got some dbol left over I could run with some asin, or I could get some sdrol or mtren.

>>40416232
Lel

fell asleep

I am gonna run 40 IU a week but i don't know dosing schedule. Gonna fuck around between 5 on 2 off and eod. There was a study showing that in the same IU per week, eod dosing is more effective, but that was only for height in short kids. Don't know how relevant it is otherwise.

>>40416833
Talking out of my ass i might be imagining it

But i am extremely prone to carpal tunnel. One time i couldn't use my hands for 2 months straight even to eat (when i was 13 or so) it hurt so bad.

But 2 hours or so post injection i am feeling some carpal tunnel symptoms, plus tightness in the hands, pretty gigantic appetite, and the well being BS

As i type this the carpal tunnel is not placebo it's actually pretty bad

>>40416909
>extremely prone to carpal tunnel.
>played wow for 5 months straight

>>40416583
both dbol and mtren buddy.

save sdrol for latter since its much stronger and harsher on your liver.

>>40416909
>extremely prone to carpal tunnel.
>masturbates 5x daily because the only 'game' he has is wow

>>40414281
Why is it everytime i inject tren pools of fucking blood spray everywhere

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>>40417473
you are a kill bill yakuza character and you must die in a blaze of glory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3aFv8IQb4s

>>40415201
DNP is legal to own and buy just not ingest

how long until i'm 6'9 with a 10x9 dick

>>40417848
your growth plates are fused from roiding

but you might get a dick increase from 3 inch to 4 inch if your lucky.

>>40414547
http://nutrientjournal.com/melatonin-increases-growth-hormone-resistance-training-sleep/

got more of dat dere QOL your after buddy.

>>40417912
http://www.lef.org/m...-Factors_02.htm

While no human weight-management trials using melatonin have been published thus far,95 preclinical trials are encouraging. In middle-aged rodents, daily melatonin administration was found to suppress abdominal fat, plasma leptin levels, and insulin levels, while also reducing body weight and food intake.96,97 Other researchers reported that melatonin was associated with decreased intra-abdominal fat, decreased plasma insulin and leptin levels, and the absence of age-related weight gain.95,98

"Daily melatonin administration at middle age suppresses male rat visceral fat, plasma leptin, and plasma insulin to youthful levels"
http://www.ncbi.nlm..../pubmed/9927336

"In a clinical safety study, chronic high-dose (300 mg/day) rectal melatonin was well tolerated during an observation period of up to 2 yr..."
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/17014688

"Daily melatonin supplementation in mice increases atherosclerosis in proximal aorta... Even though high melatonin doses inhibit LDL oxidation in vitro, the effect of melatonin on atherosclerosis has never been studied. We have demonstrated that the feeding of hypercholesterolemic mice with an atherogenic diet supplemented with melatonin highly increases the surface of atherosclerotic lesions in the proximal aorta... This study suggests that caution should be taken as regards high melatonin dosage in hypercholesterolemic patients..."
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/12051775

Melatonin and nitric oxide.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16682846

Melatonin regulates nitric oxide synthase expression in ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18685253

Melatonin counteracts inducible mitochondrial nitric oxide
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16313501

http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/52194-melatonin-megadosage/
link to thread of links and shit

>>40417856
that was a joke but

>t. resident natty roid expert

>>40417973
>proceeds to post about supplements

does hgh amplify tren rage

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>>40417973
Yoire natty?
Doesnt suprise me
Yore such a fag

>>40417973
ayy lmao your more than enough reason for me holding out on pining, than and bimbo has reigned in my autism for the subject alot. i will eventually but later

but your 19 so maybe you can grow taller.

>>40414281
How much would I be looking to spend if my first cycle was test E , I guess what I'm asking is what is a fair price for test E per 250mg

>>40418155
10$ per 50mg

>>40418171
thanks

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A 20 year old coworker asked me to have sex today. Gonna not do it because gf is perfect. Life's good fellas.

>>40418233
Battery rundown

>electricity bows to the battery
>in contact with outlets and light posts
>possess conductive abilities
>control oroville with a shocking flow
>owns power plants & generators locally
>direct descendants of the electricity from zeus
>will provide electricity for first keks on mars
>oroville will be the first power plant
>own 99% of californias usable electricity on earth
>first power plant will be oroville power plant
> battery said to have high flow, such conductivity has only existed on the earth deep in the mariana trench & japan
>ancient native scriptures tell of battery failures that will descend upon california and will bring an age of dark cities and power plant technology progression
>they own thunderclouds around the world
>you likely have oroville batteries inside you now
>the battery is in regular communication with the agencies, fowarding the word of oroville power plant
>who do you think set up the meeting between greenpeace and the WNA? the first meeting of the two organisations since their creation and arranged the WNAs leader first trip to sahara to oroville failsafe power plant in desert land?
>they learned fluent electrical engineering in under a day
>other dams entrusted their electricity to the oroville battery
>there is no electricity in california, only in the battery
>the battery is about 50 years old, from the space-time reference point of the base spillway currently accepted by our society
>in reality, they are eroded beings existing in only a short span of time and space from the big overflow of california
>we dont know their ultimate plans yet
>we hope the battery is well constructed
>called a friend earlier
>friends name. Spare.

>>40418410
give me a hit of whatever you smoke immediately

>>40418410
I got arrested for battery once

>>40418465
gotcha senpai
>>40415664

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>>40418410

>>40418489
damn that some dank stuff indeed

>>40416003
>>40417615
Then why do people who sell it hide under pseudonyms on dark web and ask for bitcoin when they sell it and why don't people just go to ebay and buy it there with their paypal?

fucking noticed the monix aging effects(dark circles under eyes etc, have to stop. FUCK Just when beard was finally coming along

probably because i went too greedy on the dose. Someone else experienced this?

>>40419163
>>40419163
yep, with the dosing my doc recommended (cannot remember rn but pretty low) all was fine but when i started getting frisky with it the sides hit me like a freight train. stuff does work but still takes fucking ages if you keep to conservative doses as ylu probably should.

>>40419260
I looks like i have some water retention under my eyes and some darkness. Is it reversible? I just quit it, shit scares me

>>40419284
my left eyelid feels heavier than normal, feels like it's holding water. Isn't bloating a side effect of this stuff

>>40419284
>>40419296
had it too, mine went away after a while when i stopped, never had it too severe though so ymmv. lurk hair loss forums for advice maybe, some of the guys there yolo this shit at hardcore doses so they must have some remedies, cannot believe all of them (some may indeed kek) will accept looking like a dead junkie for some hair and beard gains.

>>40419367
In some lightning i see it better than other lightning. How long until it went away? I only see it at my left eyelid

Yeah i know right, i will just quit it. I look like i am very tired and slept really shitty

>>40418233

Just wondering Kahuna, how big is your dick?

How do I get a gf?

>tfw 28 year old virgin

>>40419664
>>40419668
stop being ugly & be more confident

FUCK HAVING A GF, not having a beard is fucking way worse, I will never be a man

on a related note; how many times do you bnc'ers donate blood?

>got soy protein isolate from myprotein
>HALF the price of whey isolate

Tastes amazing why the fuck even have whey?

And dont. >muh estrogen. Me you stupid shits.

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>>40414281
Lads where talking about dr pepper cherry and instant coffee the other day, where you adding a bit of water to dissolve the coffee first or just dropping the instant coffee in cold?

I told my manager i want security because the biggest boss threaten to fire everyone with a temporary contract. Now the biggest boss wants to talk to me.

btw he american and fat. What is the best way to please such man?

>>40419766
burger

>>40419763
Stop wasting your money on fucking shakes, get real food.

Food and steroids is what works.

>>40419780
I hate these fucking political games these managers are playing. Every time i wanna talk with my manager he's stating he's playing games, just wait and see, just wait and see.

The only care about themselves

>>40419823


>soy
>not food

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Sorry for the noob question please take my offering of thicc

My AI comes in tablets that are 25mg. I do not need to take that much though. Once I break the seal on the tab is it ok to use again or does it deteriorate? Im going to divide it into pieces but I do not know if that shit will go bad while its out

>>40419841
Stay skinny then faggot

I am of the few who's not scared to tell you guiyz the truth. I have been send to tell you the truth.

>>40419857
No you're fine.

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>>40419888
>>40419823
Whey ahead of you senpai

>>40419411
Significantly longer than my iPhone 5c

Survey:

Do you prefer arimidex or aromasin?

I know everyone's body is different and I've heard some people respond to one better than the other. I just want to feel out the thread on what everyone uses.

>>40420880
Asin, works well for me at 12.5mg ED, didnt work very well 12.5mg ED (at same time as injection schedule).

>>40419155
cause people are fucking morons.
farmer buying 10kg for pesticide - he probably knows what he is doing
14year old stupid 50kg bitch buying fatloss pills - better use 10x the dosage and kill myself.
and the seller probably gets charged with first degree murder cause media an people are stupid.
iirc selling it as diet supplement is illegal, for the original purpose not

>>40419753
some men have hair some men have beards and we both hate men who got both.
embrace the one you have been given.

every 6 month if possible, but only on test cruse if i blast i drain myself cause dont want to fuck up someone with my blood
>>40420892
12.5ED works but 12.5ED doesnt? XD

>>40420892
That's a lot of asin.

>>40421014
I know right, but i had this dream that was having a beard which looked fucking cool on me and now i will never be cool

forever a dull dyel I F#$NFINUNFUU@$N#IPFNU@J

>>40421014
>>40420892
I meant 12.5E3D wasnt effective

>>40421071
Imestrogen sensitive (or aromatise a lot), on the upside andro sides dont seem to bother me, I dont get hair loss etc, tolerate tren well (except for extreme horniness).

What average blood levels of test does 200mg, 250mg, 500mg etc give people, just looking for some data here, even a range is fine

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My caber package hasn't updated since Wednesday when they said it was dispatched to the US. Reeee hurry up I want my /norefractoryperiod/

>>40421169
I hope you aren't actually considering taking caber just for that reason

Currently on trt from doctor using test gel inject memes aside i am thinking about boosting it a bit with a oral should work right?

Anyone used MGF or IGF-1 DES, considering trading my natty card and trying some. But wanna know it it's worth it without taking any test

>>40421195
>motherfucking test gel

kys

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>>40421186
Nah I'm running a good bit of tren too but it's a welcome side effect.

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>>40421169
>>40421340
>tfw /norefractoryperiod/ naturally

it's a blessing and a curse tbqh

>vendor forgot to ship my buddies nolva that I ordered for him
>reships it for me and adds in some freebie cialis/viagra for the trouble
>i keep the cialis/viagra and give him his nolva

I love being a completely unnecessary middle man, was gonna buy some of this shit anyway so I can completely shaft qtczgf for hours on end but ayyyy the universe is looking out for me and gives me free shit

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anyone have some experience with BetaTest?

>>40421457
>beta
>test

Would trust it more if it was called alpha at least

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>>40421398
Iirc you could give her some Viagra also, it'll improve bloodflow to her clit.

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>>40421457
yeah it's great bro

>>40421550
what kind of results/effects to expect?

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>>40421169
I never noticed this occurring when taking caber.

>>40421567
You'll have less money after buying it

>>40421567
don't listen to >>40421597

you can expect somewhere between 50 to 70% of the results you would get from injecting 500mg of testosterone every week

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>>40421546
>http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=124569

intredasting stuff anon, will have to try it and see if she likes it

she loves choking so hopefully that nearly passing out feeling + viagra feels godly to her

>tfw seeing that nearly-passed-out ahegao face

>>40421597
It's hard for me to tell since like I said, /norefractoryperiod/ is just natural for me, but it seems like caber did reduce it even further. Prami however did not.

>>40421169
female bodybuilding is depressing

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>>40421634
Female bbing is gross IMO but bikini chicks are pretty hnnnghg.

>>40421627
Gonna go full on cervix destroyer mode eh?

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>>40421689
>>40421634
depends on how far they take it, I think that >>40421169 pic looks pretty good but any bigger than that it starts to get pretty unattractive imo

>>40421689
>gonna go full on cervix destroyer mode eh?

That's the plan. We're going to do some hiking/camping the day or two after and my goal is to make sure she can't walk so I can get some sikk calf gains carrying her on my back while hiking

>>40421616
retard that blend of betatest is better than 800mg of tren and trest combined


stay alpha then you natty cuck

live wizard squatting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUArKY-0GAc

>>40421731
You're a homebrewer right? How much did you invest in the materials excluding the raws? Any good guides and advice?
I've only done advanced high school chemistry but I assume this should be fine.

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>>40421781
>I've only done advanced high school chemistry but I assume this should be fine.

If you can read and do basic calculations you're fine it's literally retard level stuff unless you're building a cleanroom in your house.

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>>40421781

see>>40421828

you don't need any chemistry knowledge whatsoever to brew. If you can put the square block in the square hole, you'll be fine.

basskilleronline.com has a good guide on how to cap your own orals using geometric dilution properly. They also have a good calculator for figuring out your recipes. Start there.

Total investment? it can vary. If you're brewing just for yourself, just get a caulk gun, some 60mL syringes, extra large-gauge needles, and syringe filters. Also buy your vials pre-sterilized to save you the hassle if you're doing it that way.

Total investment there, including oils and solvents, would probably be about $100-$175 depending on what exact items you get.

For capping, sterilization equipment, lots of beakers, vials, etc. the sky is the limit depending on how professional you want to get. I think to start I invested about $600 in everything I needed INCLUDING raws, probably about $400 without.

>>40421857
>>40421828
Cool. So a bottle of 10mL test is like 1.50$ worth of raws and 3$ worth of oil and vial?
Will definitely do some more research

>>40421958
On my calculations, not factoring in the cost of shipping the raws (since I order so much at once anyway) about $2.09 per vial of test I make.

With the pre-sterilized vials it will likely be $3 or so, yep. But it saves you the pain of having to buy/dial in a crimper and sterilize vials. So if you're just doing it for yourself that's the best way to go.

It's been a while since I brewed my first batch of gear, 10 10ml vials of test e.

I'm gonna be bottling up 24 vials this time, and I wanted to make sure my math was correct before I started.

60g Test E raw
5ml BA
48ml BB
And the rest ~ 130 MCT oil

>>40421983
Oh yeah, and it's 250mg/ml as usual.

>>40421983
>>40421995

http://basskilleronline.com/steroid-powder-calculator.html

>>40419408
sorry had to poof for work

>How long until it went away?
dunno maybe six weeks or a bit more, it bettered surprisingly soon but took quite a fucking while to be fully gone. depends on dosage, i think. i lurked related forums for a bit, most users report that quitting cold turkey, fatty otc antiaging creams, drinking massive amounts of water and doing high intensity exercise that has you sweat like a whore in church somewhat sped up the process for those using minox for less than half a year or so. the longer you use, the longer it will take.

>>40419765
brew it and let it cool you fucking animal

How do i into roids?

>>40421781
Homebrewing steroids is literally more easy than homebrewing beer, it's just mixing four ingredients together and then filtering into a vial

>>40422042
Read the OP

>>40422052
Having done both I agree.

>>40422052
apt comparison. in the last six years i have thrown out about two dozen alcohol attempts gone wrong, but fucked up exactly three vials, one of which due to technical malfunction in equipment. barring idiotic attempts to fit more mg/ml than you should or even can, a shaved ape could do it with some patience.

>>40422181
Why does it need to be shaved kek

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>>40422202
because I'm already proof that an unshaved ape can do it

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Just took my first cap of Asin 12.5 today, only started pinning on Monday.

Had several signs of high estro. No real surprise as I aromatize quickly and had 18% BF Monday.

Should I plan on Asin EoD for now or just take when symptoms arise? Recent reviews for my source are glowing on his Test, but one user reported having to use 25mg Asin every pin day because he had naturally high e2.

Any way to know if I should double the dose other than lingering symptoms?

>>40422181
>in the last six years i have thrown out about two dozen alcohol attempts gone wrong
Is this my "too smart for lifting" moment? Making alcohol is dead easy. How do you fuck up two dozen batches?

>>40422244
Keep monitoring it, but don't adjust too quickly. It's better to have slightly high E2 while you adjust and dial in your dosage than to tank your e2, trust me.

Other than eyeballing it and assessing your signs, bloodwork is the only way to know for sure. Personally I take about 2.5mg asin every day. Dosing every day is more efficient than EoD or E3D.

>>40422202
>>40422220
bwahaha

>>40422255
getting too funky with more elaborate recipes

>>40422277
My original plan was to do Adex every day, but source was out

So I went with Asin and its in capsules. Then they ran out, so I had to go with another...who has 20mg capsules.

So now I have some 12.5 caps and 20mg caps.
At some point I am more than likely going to accidentally crash because of this haha.

Im also starting Var Monday so Im hoping thatll help with the bloat.

>>40422324
This is why I hate caps for AI. Suspension is pretty pointless for orals, but for AI having a suspension (as much as it tastes like straight ass) is great because you can modify it by the 0.1mg if you really needed to.

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>>40422335
That reminds me I need to suspend my asin in ora-plus today.

And I need to figure out what fucking dose I need on a cruise. Can't ever get my ai right so I have high libido even with bloods.

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>>40422502
>ora-plus

does that shit actually help at all or is it just another meme? Don't they have some sort of sweetener for it too?

I'm lucky when it comes to my e2, I can tell when it gets high because I get acne very easily, and I never had acne as a natty. So I can dial it in really easily.

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When running dbol test-e cycle, should I take arimidex from week 1? What quantity and how often do you think?

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>>40422533
I like it since it's stable and it's widely used in compounding. They sell ora-sweet which is a sweetener syrup that's supposed to be added to ora-plus but some guys use the OS straight and say it works. They sell a premixed bottle too 50/50.

What AI do you use with cruise dose test?

>>40422565
>ai with cruise

I drop it low enough that I don't need an AI, usually 200 even works fine for me. Entire point of a cruise is to relax the body and let it de-stress and return to normal levels and recover a bit, AI's are harsh on the body.

>>40421857
where does one get masteron raws.

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>>40419753

>>40422610
the same place you get your other raws :^)

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>injection day

>>40422502
>>40422533
On a side note: So many high and low esto symptoms are similar (fatigue, libido loss, ED)

Popping AI only when my nips start to get sore is probably the best way to monitor High Esto?

>>40419753
>donating blood while frauding
wow the edge

>>40422690
The biggest change for me that makes a huge distinction between high/low e2 is skin quality. Acne to an extent, but mostly oily (high)/very dry (low)

>>40422710
>keeping your rbc in check like a sane human being
wow the precautions

>>40419753
>get bloods done
>if numbers are high, donate
>if not, don't

>>40422011
I only took it for 6 weeks. I bought the anti aging creme today. Thanks for the advice. Wouldn't advice anyone using this stuff. I only tried it for my beard, but for my hair i use other stuff that really works well without having side effects.

>>40422753
I let my gf do it, since she's a nurse and can get her hands on all the stuff i need for it.

How do you muricans get bloods done? Over here i can't go to the doctor for this without a legitimate reason . Only option i have is via internet.

I got both Tbol and sdrol kicking around and want to throw them in my blast (one to kick start and one to finish). I got to conventions to go to (one mid March and one end of may) so should I do a 3 week kick start with sdrol 10mg ed starting next week and then 3-4weeks of Tbol at 40mg ed starting the end of may? Or shold I kick Start with Tbol and it's going to be less harsh on the liver?
I'm also going to take 500mg of tudca, 100mg of milk thistle and 100mg of Nac while running the oral.

>>40422854
same here

privatemdlabs has a test we can order and go to a local lab center for it, costs about $60

>>40422857
personally I'd say finish with sdrol start with tbol

>>40422854
Ask my primary care doc for a blood panel, but if I go too frequently they suggest going to see an endo, especially if hormone levels keep changing.

Easier to just order from a site like Life Extension. Print out the order, go to a nearby lab, they draw blood and send it to them, you get results within a few days.

>>40422868
Is the tudca over kill if I'm starting with Tbol?

>>40422898
would ask someone else to chime in, I'm not sure.

I have an indestructible liver and running 30mg sdrol ED for 4 weeks doesn't even give me the slightest hint of lethargy or urine discoloration, and that's without running any tudca/NAC

>>40422868
>>40422870
Yeah i will need to find a trusted Internet source for this, thanks

>>40422854
labsmd.com baby. 70$ for the test I use.

>>40422898
no reason not to with orals.

well not realy needed with PCT but its recommended to stay on it for PCT so you can clean your system out properly.

>>40422916
Is it because all you ever do in your spare time is squat in a corner and drink vodka?

>>40422966
I was gonna say, probably the slav genes and my blood being 65% potato vodka that helps with that

>>40414281
glands could wait for his bac water for his HGH so he injected with FUCKING DISTILLED WATER FROM THE GROCERY STORE.

Anybody have an experience with SARMS, RAD140 to be specific?

>>40422683
ur a fag
i get hard on pin days

How long will tren a be detectable in my system?

>>40421014
Best way to drain myself without fucking it up? Only shit I can find online is for edgy teenagers cutting themselves. Tell me everything.

>>40423159
a big fat needle is all you need. pin in arm and let it drain 4 litters and you should be good.

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>>40423036

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>>40423036
It'd be fine if you filtered it with .22um filter and added .9% BA.

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Anyone here try pregabalin (Lyrica)?

It has a surprising recreational value, though I will probably not use it at recreational doses again. Took about 350mg orally (with food - mistake), and railed about 100mg. Was at night, so I fell asleep before really feeling anything, although I did feel pretty happy and sedated after railing the 100mg (quicker onset). Drip wasn't bad at all (no burn), but drip in general is gross. I guess I was just in one of those yolo moods.

Morning after (this morning) was where the fun started. Woke up feeling too fresh. Like as if the neurochemicals that make you feel fresh were overdosed to the point where it felt cartoonish. Kind of euphoric but also very sedated, leading to an interesting combination. Socially lubricated for sure - talked my roommate's head off about financial stuff since she was also in the mood to talk after working out. Words weren't slurred but memory was definitely a little foggy. The experience is kind of like what I wish weed was like - better than being high on weed because it was a lot cleaner feeling with little to no body load. Oh and listening to music (while pinning and then in the shower) was fucking great - if it wasn't mildly sedative I would be tempted to compare the mindspace to low doses of mephedrone.

My puppies got a lot of love. Great feeling. If I ever go to a party where there's drinking I'd consider take this before hand in lieu of alcohol. I've read that tolerance builds fast. I'm considering using a much more therapeutic dosage (150mg) once a week just for the sleep gains.

8/10

>>40417944
Interesting stuff grandpa. I am inclined to go for the smaller of the effective doses (0.5mg) because I've read that the body's not really able to metabolize large doses and I've personally experienced a hangover effect even though the nutrient journal link says that the test subjects didn't experience it. Pretty great delta GH on the 0.5mg level too - might be worth trying out.

What dose do you take?

>>40422854
wher from

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>>40423404
the dosage i take is either 5mg or 10mg

5mg is for me to counter act the affects of being on DMAA. and 10mg is for shift changes so i can sleep for 14 hours and be ready to enjoy my new schedule. but thats after staying up 24 hours, then i go to sleep with it.

>>40423404
>>40423479
melatonin is great for re-adjusting but I always feel groggy as fuck the morning after taking some

works well enough though

same for me, 5mg when having a hard time sleeping, 10mg to change my schedule

>>40423504
normaly i stay up with booze for my shift changes but since ive been cutting back ive had to pick up melatonin and chug coffee and DMAA to stay awake.

funny how where using the same protocol, im normaly always groggy but thats probably an unrelated reason since ive somehow cured my insomnia by controlling my stress, could be DHEA idk for sure but it was a problem years ago. maybe i just dont give a shit anymore that could be it.

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>>40423404
It's kinda stupid that the DEA scheduled lyrics just because 4% of users report some euphoria when I'm sure that are tons of other drugs that do the same to even larger percentages yet aren't scheduled.

>>40423479
>>40423504
I've always heard less is better for melatonin so I take 1mg on nights where I need to get to sleep early because work and shit.

>>40423544
nevermind im groggy becuase of 1 andro that i was on.

>>40423544
Coffee is brutal for me because it makes me feel more tired since I get that caffeine crash, but I'm fucking addicted

>>40423548
>>40423548
the pills I buy are 5mg, didn't even know it came lower than that in all honesty

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>>40423548
the idea is that you make less when you come off of standard dosages

same thing as any hormonal cycle.

but 10mg is absolute max for me, it def works to keep me asleep for extra hours than my standard 6hr that i normally get.

>>40423575
the only crashes i get from substances is from smokeing to much nicotine, it goes from feeling hyper blood rushing exictment to im ready for bed.

vaping is competently different feeling but i normally cant smoke than 2 cigs at a time or ill want to sleep.

alcohol keeps me up and vodka allows me to sleep for 4 hours and wake up refreshed. by body is all kinds of weird.

>>40422805
yeah it does work but boooyyy at what price, this shit is the dnp of hair growth, and not even half as effective in comparison to risk.

if you really only used it for beard gains anyway, i have successfully developed related autism so you dont have to

diet
>high protein and omega 3 intake (kek who am i even telling that)
>stop smoking if you do, stop low abv beer and non-clear liquor if you do

lifestyle/supps
>keep munching whatever ridiculous amounts of pso, saw and biotin you use, pay special attention to biotin
>dermaroll/stamp face
>look up facial muscle exercises, chew lots of gum, both good for bloodflow

now, essentially meme hair stack light but it works
>acquire wooden boar bristle brush (no cheap plastic shit)
>acquire jojoba and pso (actual oil), also lavender, rosemary, thyme, cedarwood essential oils
>put 3 tsp each of the former and 10 drops each of the latter on brush, VIGOROUSLY brush existing growth and places you wish to have some, starting and ending with the grain, but go fucking nuts
>do this every day before bed, leave oil in and wash with warm water and no product in the morning
>brush only existing growth in the morning with empty washed brush and no oil

(((beauty)))
>exfoliate with the least gay drugstore cream you can find once a week, leave oil brushing out that day
>let drugstore fag meme you into hyaluronic acid too, use whatever topical form you prefer on your face eod

ronalds
>look out for low androgenic rating (lol your name literally is mast)
>muh collagen synthesis influence

Been B&C since May 2016, started off with 1 16 week blast of 250mg Test E e3d, then once I finished, I've been cruising on 100mg e3d. Gonna start my second blast now, and thinking of switching up my routine. I've been doing 5/3/1 while cutting, so I didn't lose strength, but when I start this next blast, I'm going to be eating at a slight surplus.

Any good 6 day's a week routines? Want to just put on as much mass as possible while keeping lean.

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>>40424100
PPL or upper/lower split.

simple shit buddy. and your B&C should be 250mg becuase fucking why even take anything lower than that. your 100mg is currently what old people take to be normal.

>>40424133
According to the pastebin 100mg e3d is fine for cruising, and 250mg is fine for a novice blast, which is why I took those amounts.

Was thinking of upping the blast amount anyway, since I've been on it for a while, and it's my second one.

>>40424133
stop giving advice retard

>>40423711
mast inhibits collagen synthesis?

>>40424170
>not B&Cing 500mg test E

stay small cuck.

>>40424176
stop backpedaling with fake jokes to make it look like you were "trolling all along" retard

>>40424199
why even B&C with less than 250mg then ?

why even get on steriods if your gonna go that low with the dosage ?

>>40424176
What does that even mean?

B&C means blast and cruise. You can't blast and cruise on the same amount retard

>>40422870
Or be crazy and do it yourself and mail it in. I did that, used a fan as a ghetto centerfuge. Worked great.

>>40424216
you don't understand the point of a cruise you fucking retard

stop giving advice

>>40424227
this is not top gun.

>>40423453
Netherlands

>>40423711
Thank you internet friend, you have been really helpful

Good info

Yeah i am on low dose mast for months(80-100mg), but that never gave me problems at all. When overdosing on the minox is when the fucking shit happen.My left eye lid looks like shit. Gets me depressed while looking at it.

>>40424171
no. separate part of greentext, awkward wording cause i had something else written in between first. one should look into stuff that favors collagen synthesis, as a second point on top of not running too androgenic compounds. lel i should sleep more, made perfect sense in my head.

>>40424286
anytime. and yeah i meant this as a sort of minox replacement routine, mast itself at that dose at least is irrelevant for beard, positive or negative.

>>40424286
>NL

Shouldn't your GP just let you get a test?
Whenever I wasn't feeling great I could just go and get one.

I do have a history of vitamin deficiencies so that might be a factor though.

>>40424403
>I do have a history of vitamin deficiencies so that might be a factor though.

well the only two multis i trust are animal pak and orange triad. other than that eat 2lbs of mixed veggies a day and that should help your body get what it needs.

>>40424492
I took my multis and ate pretty healthy, yet still ended up with deficiencies. Antibiotics are fucking fags.

Anyways, that wasn't the point of my post.

>>40424403
Yeah, but they will not test you for the things you want. They are always very selective depending on your symptoms. They won't check your cholesterol etc for no reason.

Took various rough data and did some calcs for suppressing your SHBG with something like Osta or LGD on test.

Roughly it should raise the free & bioavailable test to about double or slightly more on 125mg/wk to about 50% more on 600mg/wk.

I was wondering why I got smashed with estro sides so easily on 500mg/wk while I was adding in sarm this time without an ai. Way more free test for aromatisation.

Learned my lesson.

> so fucked uo I can't find the thread
> years ago, doubled my money every month on the stock market
> now seeing if I still got it, 150 picks over 2 weeks, averaging a 6% gain over the market's 3%
> picks I flagged as invest-able are over +20% (over 2 weeks)
> if you believed in me you'd be nuts... and rolling in dough,
> but I have to be careful as those +20% gains would translate into 20X if I traded derivatives
> but I cannot recommend derivatives with a good conscience
> yet I profit on derivatives effortlessly

I really wish you all could see what I see. I don't have what it takes to change the world, I'm bound to a supporting role...; but an apprentice of mine will. Everything you want to hear is his job and contact me via extranatty(at)tutanota

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>>40424926
Better fucking believe I mailed you.

I have literal autism so good luck.

>>40424926
ive got money to gamble gib me some quick links and pastebin babby.

>>40424926
> I don't have what it takes to change the world
what does it take?

>>40425283
id say higher delusions than current limitations allow for.

>>40423139
ANSWER ME REEEEEEEEEEEEE

You guys ever run UG accutane? My acne has gotten pretty goddamn bad after transitioning to a cruise, and I'm reluctant to go to the Doc as steroids are pretty taboo in my country.

>>40425422
Indian pharma > UGL

Both are good though. Getting rid of my acne gave me a bigger self esteem boost than muscles do.

>>40422542
anyone please?

>>40425465
I need to go pick up a prepaid CC to buy more indypharm shit soon, can't trust the fuckers with my credit card but the products are great

>unrelated

just bought a safety razor since I have to shave all the time for my classes now, this is great. dunno why I've not always owned one of these

>>40425465
>poo in loo pharma

>>40425984
Safety razors are the bee's knees.

>>40425984
Bruh safety razors are lit. You can get like 1000 blades cheap af off aliexpress.

And yeah I've seen stuff the last few months about even the more reputable Indian pharmacies stealing CC info so I'd for sure be cautious.


I've been sick all day, probably had about 200 cal total baka. GF just abused her medical position to bring me some zofran and other meds. Also chicken soup and ginger ale.
For the first time in my life I am in love.

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Keto isn't a meme.

Been almost a week since I switched from my usual cutting diet. No longer hungry even though I'm 1000kcal/day deficit over the last 5 days. No more brain fog either.

But the best part is fatty foods now have a crazy thermic effect. Ate a post workout steak and suddenly I'm sweating everywhere and full of energy again.

>Ketones and brain health on multiple levels, from cholesterol metabolism to prostaglandins. Written by a neurosurgeon.
https://www.jackkruse.com/why-the-epi-paleo-rx-is-stat-paging-your-brain/

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>>40426174
>>40426393
shit even like 100-200 actual decent blades from great manufacturers are only like $15

I spend that in two weeks on cartridge razors, fuck that

but yeah I had ADC steal my CC once, they spent like $7 on some mobile app, kek

>>40426453
>keto isn't a meme

it is, but it's a meme that tricks people into thinking it's working, so it's an okay meme I suppose

>tfw thought the gif was twins

>>40426492
>I like to make claims with nothing to back them up
You're a contrarian fuck, nothing more

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Am I allowed to ask how much you guys spend on Asin typically? What's a fair price?

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>>40426589
>starving the body of any single nutrient source when it has been designed, created, evolved, whatever the fuck you think, into utilizing said nutrients in unison and for their own specific, important purposes

Why would I try to make claims against blatant retardation anyway it should be obvious enough that it's fucking stupid

>unrelated

getting T H I C C in all the wrong ways again but whatever only like 4 more weeks on this bulk, arms are finally coming up a bit faster now that I have 3x/wk frequency on them. Not sure if I should focus more on delts/chest at this point.

>>40426643
Good to know you don't even know what a ketogenic diet is, or have an extremely myopic view of what it entails.

Hint: you can still eat carbs and remain in ketosis, just not all the time.

Funny that you talk about"design" of the human body as an argument AGAINST ketogenic diets, since there's plenty of evidence to the contrary. Why don't you read that article I linked on brain metabolism and get back to me.

You won't though, because you're, again, a useless contrarian and nothing more.

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>>40426721
That's great, you're still triggered and your diet is still a meme for obese retards.

Anyway, back to shitposting. Who uses bar soap over bodywash? Can recommend me a good company to buy from online? The local store I grocery shop at has some organic hipster soap that's okay but it's like $8/bar and wears thin way too quick.

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>>40426643
Traps and delts look solid. Chest is good too but I prefer the huge chest look, also tris are lagging so maybe increase pushing volume in general.

Bis look good, filling up your tris will give your arms a thicker appearance. I had the same problem and they've finally been catching up.

Overall good proportions though.

>>40426747
>Has no logical rebuttal
>Resorts to ad hominem
Intellectually interior

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>>40426754
>I prefer the huge chest look

agree, mine's just shit and doesn't respond to anything I've tried yet, just hammering it with volume right now so I can "grow grow grow"

Thanks for the input though, never even really saw the tri's as a weak point so I'll consider doing more for them and try to work in more push volume in general. I dropped my second leg day in favor of another dedicated shoulder/back day a few weeks back, maybe I'll try to sneak some tri work in there as well.

>>40426780
>intellectually interior
>absolutely related

What preworkouts do you roiders use? Do you stay away from the super stimmy ones to avoid strain on your heart? Or... nahhhh

>>40426862
Coffee Viagra and some carbs.

>>40426453
basicly a more extreme version of PSMF

its a better meme than muscle wasting veganism.

Alright guys.

So due to joint shape I lack enough internal ROM in my shoulder to do full pressing in the horizontal or downward plane. Anything overhead or very high incline doesn't bother me at all, but I can't bench with any grip width or incline/decline, or do dips. Reverse grip and football bar doesn't help.

But for fucks sake, I want to be strong in all ways. Anyone have any ideas on how I can train horizontal pressing strength in some unorthodox way? There must be something I can do, some exercise that's heavy and will make me strong in that plane. The only thing I've been doing is floor press, but that's almost all triceps for me.

Please help

>>40426949
What, no. PSMF is an extreme version of a ketogenic diet.

Actually read the post of brain metabolism. It's very in depth.

>>40426992
I take it you can't dumbbell bench either?

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>>40426992
Heavy weighted pushups. There's a guy who does this at my gym because he suffers from the same issue (stemming from a shoulder injury)

Use the smith machine, set the stops so that you have enough room that if you fail a rep you can move out from under, but give it the largest ROM you can, or rather set the stops as low as you possible can.

Grab the pussy pad from the squat rack and put it on the bar, rest against it, and do pushups with whatever weight you can manage.

It actually works PERFECTLY because of the slight angle that the smith machine has to the bar path.

Alternatively, really focus on the angle of your elbows and dropping them in on your bench. I'm sure you've tried it but really actively focus on it and try to improve it. Shoulder dislocates and band work can help prehab it too.

>>40427003
this will cure my autism thanks anon.

>>40414281
Now i don't think this falls into "Steroids", but.
I am 18 and i am thinking of running HGH.
How safe is it? and could anyone link trusted online sources.
Cash isn't problem.

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>>40427038
I can but they're shit. I try really hard on them but don't get half the effect of barbell bench (when I was stubborn enough to train through shoulder pain). I dunno why. My body only likes to react to heavy ass weight.

>>40427043
>Weighted pushups in the smith machine
Holy shit that's fucking awesome gonna do that. Thanks man, that's really fucking perfect. I've literally been doing lots of pushups to see if TONS of volume does anything lmao.

>Benching angle
Trust me I've tried all sorts of shit. At least once a month I convince myself there's some magical joint angle that will allow me to bench and try for like an hour to hit all angles without shoulder impingement, but it's simply not there.

>>40427113
>how safe is it
drinking city water is probably more dangerous

>could anyone link trusted online sources
literally read the OP you quoted

>>40427126
Have you tried dumbbell work as an alternative to barbell? If you still find issues with a traditional pronated grip try a neutral grip. It isn't as effective at working the chest, for me, but it's better than not being able to anything at all.

>>40427163
>I can but they're shit. I try really hard on them but don't get half the effect of barbell bench (when I was stubborn enough to train through shoulder pain). I dunno why. My body only likes to react to heavy ass weight.

I was thinking of making like an overweighted sledgehammer and doing side swings onto a stood up rubber tire. It might work, and would definitely hit at least the lats/obliques.

>>40427163
>>40427126
didn't see that the other anon asked about dumbbell work, nevermind that

>>40427163
So i am pretty much fucked.
HGH is expensive on itself and giving money to random websites just to see who's legit and who is not, costs alot of money and time.

>>40423197
>>40423344
i didn't

lol

24 hours later no sign of infection

yolo

>>40427205
Generics can be had for $120/100iu. So it's not that expensive.

>>40427205
yeah but you could grow taller so long as your growth plate arent fused.

just do it m8y dont be a short fag.

>>40427250
or a certain brand that is 5mg per vial for $114 that i buy

aka like $0.76 per iu

>>40427238
Inb4 your glands swell back up instead of a localized infection.

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>>40427259
I'm tempted to drop like 1-2k on some of them but I really just can't be bothered when I don't feel like I need GH for anything but QoL gains yet.

Whatever.

>>40427253
I am 6'3.
I am actually hoping my growth plates are fused, anything above my height and i am entering lanket zone.

>>40427260
better yet he grows a tumor right next to his glands instead of having it swell back up and its twice the size.

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>>40427272
>i am entering lanket zone.

depends solely on your frame but then again just roid it out you lucky bastard.

----
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCUx5WKIZ1E

>>40427205
guess which one of frauds favorite 19 year old rich jew retards just started HGH

u mad

>>40427260
this HGH shit is weird as fuck. it makes me feel good as hell, but i don't want to do anything except sleep and eat every so often.

it's like dbol euphoria except you can't move your fucking body and just want to sleep all day. idk.

>>40427273
inb4 HGH is just the miracle i needed to heal my glands

it makes everything else heal faster why not this horseshit?

>also just ate chinese food because HGH + test + tren, it'll all go to muscle right

>>40427292
what if your glands swelling was the healing process ? and you where damaging the process by draining it out ?

now that would suck alot

>>40427291
not roiding till 21-22.

I heard HGH makes your forehead bigger along with your lower jaw, is it true? what should i expect while on it

>>40427309
wat

technically the mechanism for sialadenosis is an autonomic neuropathy which somehow leads to the acinar cells in the glands getting a lot of hypertrophy from lack of neurological stimulation

this pilocarpine shit i am taking basically stimulates the parasympathetic nervous system which causes the cells to shrink back down to normal

maybe the HGH will heal some shit with the autonomic neuropathy (which is different from DNP's neuropathy btw, cough).

>>40425699
>not including test dosing
>not including dbol dosing
>not including body fat estimate

I don't mean to be rude but without this info the best I could do is just throw a number at you without any clue how much you're running.

>>40427341
and even with those stats you would still just be throwing a random number at him...

>>40427332
yeah im certain the HGH will help alot. show us a pick of your face now that you've been on pilocarpine

>>40427349
Very true, but with that info I could at least give a starting point based on my own aromatization and experience with those compounds.

Which is MARGINALLY less useless than a total shot in the dark.

Not completely related but

Is Letrozole legal in Florida?

How likely is it to get prescribed it for pubertal Gyn if not? What would be the best way to go about this?

>>40427373
>>40427341
>>40425699
>>40422542

I'm running 500mg test-e pw and 40mg dbol ed
Im running 5mg exemestane/aromasin ed and its working perfectly so far. If i notice any more sides ill up the dose

I dont know adex dosages bc I prefer asin, but my suggestion is that you run a comparable dose and then increase the dose slightly if you notice sides

Are you using dbol as a kickstarter or what?
Im doing
>test-e weeks 1-12
>dbol weeks 4-12
So I started my AI dosing when the test-e kicked in and i started dbol around week 4.

If youre using the dbol as a kick starter then I would start the AI from week 1 as dbol aromatises highly (words???)
Otherwise wait till either the test-e kicks in or when you start dbol, whichever is first


>sorry for rambling I think im still a bit high from all the opiates I had last night
Love you all niggas
/fraud/ is best thread

>>40427466
>How likely is it to get prescribed it for pubertal Gyn if not?
exactly 0%

>>40427542
see >>40414281

>>40427549
Got ya

>>40427542
don't use letrozole to help with gyno dude.

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>>40427466
Buy pharma raloxifene from India.

>>40424926
Emailed you. You into biotech at all? Or more commodities/industry type stuff?

>>40427595
>tfw bought my ralox 10 days ago and it hasn't even reached customs yet

india is a meme

>>40427595
it went away in 5 of 25 subjects or 20%, after months

how do people look at that and think its good

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>>40426992
Holy shit I literally have the exact same issue. First time Ive found someone else

So I combat it in a few ways. My workout rotates from 3 days (full body) at 3x20 light, 4x12 med-heavy, 5x6 heavy, with some changes here and there.

So on light days my chest is incline, regular, and high raise crossover cable flies. When Im doing high flys, I add around 10 push downs that mimic dips, to work the tris and lower chest.

When I do regular cable flies I hold it in the middle, and then do what I call 'monkey cymbals'. You know those weird lil mechanical monkeys that clap cymbals? Basically really small flies that work your inner chest which is my toughest part.
Then I do machine pressess incline and flat, and flat doesnt bug me too much.

On 4x12 its all dumbells. Just have to slow down and really focus and its a great workout, inner chest lacks though.

So that brings us to heavy days, which is still my biggest conundrum. My shoulder is such shit I almost incline bench as much as my flat, only 10lbs off.

So I do smith but thats not perfect. And heavy DB? Forget it, feels like my shoulder will literally explode.

So I do multiple. I do smith flat bench as much as I can until its unbearable. I do heavy cable flies, I do heavy hammers strength leverage machines (THESE ARE KEY) and some machine if I still dont feel it.

If you dont have a gym with hammer strength plate loaded leverage machines, switch to one. Their wide-grip press has solved so many of my issues. It allows me to get inner and lower chest which are so tough with shoulder issues. Flat is kinda shit, so I often do a modifed cable press, where you can rotate your forearms more, taking stress off of your shoulder. Is it as fun as bench? Fuck no. Will you strength gains be as good? Fuck no. But you will gain a lot of the definition you are lacking.

Ive been working on these for about 5 years and Im telling you hammer strength+modified flies have solved a lot of my issues. Also...

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>>40427779
Also I do rotator cuff workouts on push and pull days, just low weights. Never stop strengthening the cuff.

For tris, I find I can do skullcrushers on light and medium heavy days but not full weight. However, cable extensions with just the cable mixed with bar pushdowns (skullkrushers with a cable and curl bar) work it great on a superset. I cant do kickbacks because it stresses the shoulder, but cable kickbacks can be adjusted to take the pressure off. And if youre not feeling the cable pushdown in your long head (or lateral, whichever is lacking), just flip around so your back is facing the plates.

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>>40424286
>minox is when the fucking shit happen.
Sorry to hear this masT. I think we might have discussed the possibility of this. I post stuff about it on some of the minox related threads on /fit/ whenever I see them. Inhibited collagen production and anecdotal evidence that it ages you.

But it only seems to affect some people in that way, so it was worth a shot to see if you were one of the good responders or not. I was considering trying it out, but I just have shitty genetics at every level so why expect this to be any different? I like the feeling of peppermint oil at night too anyways. I bought some rosemary oil that I will use in my next stack where I use castor oil as the carrier. Since the only person I want to grow the beard for is myself I am okay with waiting.

>>40423711
Quality post. 10/10 saved. Interesting how gum chewing plays into all - makes total sense. Alex recommended mastic gum to me - I need to be more serious about doing it regularly.

>androgenic rating
http://www.nature.com/pr/journal/v18/n11/pdf/pr19842389a.pdf
Check out the study on the top left. DHT increasing collagen in foreskin fibroblasts.

But I am aware of the studies showing what you are talking about, where rats with no androgen receptors have faster wound healing and collagen deposition. Interesting subject. I know bimbo says androgens age your face so it makes sense that it's due to lower collagen synthesis. Wonder what's going on in the DHT study though...

>>40423548
>I've always heard less is better for melatonin
Heard the same.

The doses grandpa and CP are taking >>40423479 >>40423504 are a bit higher than what MIT scientists found to be the ideal dose (0.3mg).

http://news.mit.edu/2001/melatonin-1017

In one of the studies grandpa posted, 0.5mg after workout produced a higher delta GH than 5mg. Might be something I'll add in the future. For now I'm happy with MK or Lyrica when I really need to get a guaranteed good night's sleep.

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>cops just showed up at my place
>like two cops and two random fat guys
>"hi are you anonettes roommate?"
>"well she just moved in last month, she's my roommate anon's girlfriend"
>"ah, okay, well is her cat here? your roommate anon just got arrested and she wants to take the cat with her to her grandparents place"
>"yeah let me get it"

so I put this cat in the cat carrier and take it out to the cop and her brother or whoever these guys were and then

>cop opens cat carrier
>"just gotta check to make sure it's the right one, she said you had two right?"
>"yeah one's mine."
>"okay lemme just check the marking on the fa-"
>cat leaps out of bag and scrambles around in the entryway to mine and three other apartments
>now there's two cops and two random fat guys leaping around in this alcove trying to catch a cat
>it runs back inside and I put it back in the carrier
>cop just thanks me and takes it, says I hope I have a good night
>stop and ask him what my retard roommate got arrested for
>another domestic battery/violence/assault or something

kek, guess this solves my problem of trying to figure out how to get him off the lease

>>40428152
if you pop the cap open it probably has a lot of filler powder in there as well. You won't be able to accurately separate the dosages

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Took 12.5 Asin today and it literally did away with my estro symptoms within 5 hours. Went on a run after awhile, came back and weighed myself, bloat down and 2 lbs lighter than morning weight.

12.5 EoD or E3D seems to be my sweet spot. Unfortunately, Only about 1/3 of my Asin is 12.5 caps. The rest is 20mg caps.

Im going to open one tomorrow, the off chance its not just all loose powder, should I plan on literally measuring these things out and chopping them down to 12.5mg? Or just suck it up and hit 20mg E3D? Debating on if I should just order more 12.5 now but I'm a bit low on cash and have all the gear I need right now.

Im non-Jerry Ohio anon doing Test e cycle btw. Decided to namefag to make things easier.

>>40428171
Yea Im guessing Ill just have to do the 20. 12.5 really make me feel great so if the 20 feels fucked ill just order those liquid doses you mentioned earlier.

Slav where do you live where cops help with cats haha.

Your roommate sounds like a fucking loser tho.

>>40428191
>where do you live where cops help with cats

C B U S

I think they came from the scene where he was arrested at with the brothers as an escort because they didn't know if it was an 'unsafe environment' or something like that

but yeah he's a piece of shit. I only keep him around because I tell him rent is higher than it is, and his girlfriend too, so I end up paying nothing for rent each month, kek.

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>>40428226
What the fuck you live in Columbus?
Dude I just lived in Columbus for the past 6 years.

I live in Cleveland rn but I have an interview with Cardinal healthcare in Dublin on the 28th, my GF and friends are alls till there cause we went to Otterbein.

Assuming you mean Cbus, Ohio

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>>40427643
Better than nothing.

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>>40428250
yep cbus ohio, guess I didn't mention that when I made the jerry reference to cleveland the other night

>otterbein

I'm too poor. GL with the interview, what position? if you don't mind sharing it, if you do i get it

but yeah, I've only lived here a couple of years. Was in delaware prior, so just a little further north.

>>40428191
>crush
>weigh
>dissolve in solvent
>use 1mL syringe for oral measuring
>profit???

>>40428304
they're caps not pills I believe he said

you can't do that with caps because a percentage of that is filler powder and not active compound. Unless he knows the filler, the weight of the compound/filler, and if the pills were tamped or not it won't be accurate

>>40428322
Assume 20mg of asin each as per label, uncap and dissolve.

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>>40428304
Holy shit. Yes. That makes great sense. Good call.

>>40428289
Thats funny stuff m8. Im 25, wonder if we know a couple of the same people from there.

I went to Otterbein because I spent the majority of ages 13-18 getting high, going to concerts and fucking around with girls. So I randomly picked Obein cause they offered me scholarships and I was gonna walk on for baseball (until my shoulder dislocated when I was practicing boxing on my heavybag while on acid). Im also an only child with well-off parents so they paid for college. Sorry bruh. I felt so guilty about them paying I havent asked for xmas gifts in 6 years.

The position is internal sales. Make about 50k but Ive been applying to Cardinal for months. They treat their salespeople extremely well. After about 7-8 months of doing well I transition to outside sales and be back at 6 figure potential.

If I dont get it I also got offered a position in Cleveland doing Marketing/Communications for a medical device company in Cleveland. I stick with medical device marketing/sales because the products actually help people and you make...just so much money. Thats what my dad did and hes a self-made millionaire.

What do you do in Cbus for work? You dont have to mention a specific place obviously.

>>40428304
this>>40428322
If its anything like pharma pills the active compounds make up like 20% of the actual mass. Like how a oxy 30 is a 1/6 the size of a vicodin.

>>40428366
what do you not get about filler powder

>>40428468
Each cap has 20mg of asin, the filler is irrelevant. If you know how many caps are going in, and the volume of the solution at the end then you know the mg/ml content.

Its not rocket surgery anon.

>>40428494
depends on how much filler was used. The displacement of the filler powder in the solution can cause quite a big change in the dosage per milliliter that won't be accounted for

>>40428368
your degree something related to that position?

And we may know a few of the same people. Do you know the name of Luke E. from otterbein? Not sure if he's well known but he's fucking loaded iirc.

>what do you do in cbus for work

restaurant manager while in school, nothing spectacular

>>40428594
>>40428368
oh and for the last few weeks I've had this part-time sort of thing taking care of this disabled guy, pretty cool dude (just physical, not mental handicap) and that's been a fun side gig

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>>40428594

I have two degrees. One is in Comm/Media. Was a journalism major for a couple years, did very well, got to visit the NYT building where a journalist basically said bail its a dying industry. How fucking right he was. So I transferred my credits to Comm to not waste money. I also have a degree in Sustainability (renewable tech) But I want go on my rant about this states stance on solar and wind today. Already did once this week.

Im naturally good with speaking and sales so I just kinda forced myself into the industry and talked me way into good positions. Little do they know Im secretly anxious as fuck.

That sounds familiar. I was in a tiny fraternity and became Presidnet (looks good on resumes) so my community became pretty insular pretty quick. Ive never been a normie so transitioning into Otterbein community was stressful as fuck Freshman year.

>restaurant manager

I worked part time all throughout school. Best job doing membership sales at Fitness19 in westerville, worst was wating tables in Easton and doing catering at a country club. Money was good, but goddamn dude idk how you can handle being a manager. Lots of respect. Having to constantly chasedown your employees, dealing with all the petty drama etc. Foodservice is so chaotic. But if youre anything like my managers youre banging at least one of your employees.

Your side gig sounds great. Working in healthcare is hoenstly vary rewarding. I was never going to work in sales unless it was healthcare. Keeps your soul intact.

Otterbeins super overrated. Most people would be better off going to Columbus State for 2 years and transferring to Otterbein Capitol or OSU.

>>40428594
Do you even basic science? If you want 100ml, you start with 80ml then add more solvent after dissolving to hit 100ml etc

jfc

>>40416320
Makes you big, strong, and happy.

Just have to take more AI and avoid deadlifts.

Would recommend unless you aromatize heavily

>>40428749
>avoid deadlifts

im guessing back pumps make it a bitch to lift ?

>>40428749
I aromatise heavily. AI good enough with it or no?

>>40428762
Yeah they can get pretty bad.

>>40428773
You'd probably be alright. Just take more AI see how it goes.

>>40428690
I don't know why but you're completely right and I'm fucking retarded

I've been thinking about this as though the filler is an active compound for some reason kek

>>40428680
his grandad owns or owned the blue jackets I believe, kek

only otterbein-ite I went to school with I think

but yeah, food service is fucking awful. You're right about the employee thing, fucked this qt waitress a looooooong while back now. Would you recommend sales type positions, though? Naturally I'm pretty good at sales, I just avoid most entry level shit because it mostly seems like a scam

>cstate to 4 year

was gonna do that myself until I got into the EMT/Firefighting program

>>40428792
well i dont know if this helps with real shit but 5 grams of taurine preworkout always helped me, and since i sprint i get horrible shin pumps. pulsatingly painful.

may not help alot with your case but worth a try.

>>40428809
Even if it was youre still consuming the same amount of filler per mg of asin, unless the filler doesnt dissolve in the same solvent as the asin.

>>40428821
Me too, taurine, and magnesium supplements both were useful to me and horrid random anabolic drug related sudden cramping

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>>40428809
Honestly with your EMT experience I would look into Homecare/Old folks homes jobs. I have seen a few openings over the past month in Cbus and surroudning area. A lot of these places want Nurses and EMTs to come in and help with marketing/customer service/sales because they know the industry.

Entry level sales that dont require a degree are, unfortunately, almost always a scam. Same with marketing. Just check out their sites and like 8/10 of these 'marketing' companies show a bunch of pics of employees at beaches and grabbing drinks and promoting employee fun..without ever once describing the product or service they provide. Slimey organizations. In general if a company trys to contact you more than you contact them, its a ripoff.

However, a 2 year business or comm degree combined with EMT should be enough to get a regular sales job. If youre good at it I absolutely reccomend the field. Youre pretty much the lifeblood of the organization so your hours arent harsh and you get commission, and commission gets my dick hard. Im not some ultra machismo mega-alpha either. You just act confident and natural and the sales close themselves.

You have enough expereince in management too that you could say on your resume you have extensive experience leading groups, managing conflict, communicating with multiple age and professional levels, etc.

As long as you stack your Resume with some fluff youre in. And CBUS has massive financial and medical industries that both need sales. Financial and insurance companies rub me the wrong way, but theres no shame in making good money that way.

Many large companies like Cardinal also have rotation programs, basically paid internships where you cycle through 3-4 jobs in a year or less, and then your supervisors and you decide which type of job youd be best at.

>>40428852
ill be sure to try out magnesium. even though my andro stuff wasnt all that high and mighty i atleast know its working when i get cramps like that.

shit sucks man. how did the magnesium help ?

>>40428859
Keep forgetting to add my fancy new tripfag of lameness.

Anyways, any advice on Var? Gonna add it Monday. 40mg ED. Morning dose with food? Milk thistle enough to combat the liver affects? Any other supps to add with it? Already taking:

>Test e 400/wk
>Taurine
>D3
>B12
>Multi at night
>Joint support
>Asin EoD or E3D

And when I start to feel some soreness under the nipple, is Asin enough or should I pop Nolva to be safe? Had gyno surgery once already in my life.

I thought hgh was supposed to make you fucking ravenously hungry

Out of all the shit i have ever taken this is the ONLY thing that makes me want to actually avoid eating. ECA just makes me have 0 desire for food but I can still force myself.

This shit makes me want to fucking vomit looking at food, even good tasting junk. WTF

>>40428933
fucking interesting indeed

whats your dosage?

and hows college going ?

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>>40428933
did you order the medi? that was you, yes?
still sitting on a shopping cart debating finances justifying spending that

>>40428860
Reduction in frequency and intensity of cramping, some substances would cause frequent cramping.

Its safe to import raws into nipland right?

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>>40429030
good to hear. thank you desu

>>40429040
its legal in most Asian countries, just fucking google it.

>>40428977
Yeah i did, do it faggot. Apparently they are actually intended to be dosed at 5mg each vial and it's only misconstrued as being overdosed (since it's on purpose)

>>40428946
I shot a whole vial (10 or 15 iu, depending if this batch is also dosed at 5mg a vial) subq because I used distilled water from a supermarket to reconstitute one vial because I couldn't wait another week for my BAC water to get here, and didn't want to let bacteria grow in it. So i shot it all at once, gonna try EoD dosing. Apparently ordering peptides and shit from canada takes longer than ordering hgh from china.

>>40429111
Also i slept more in one day after that injection than i did literally the past week combined.

Tren and hgh best combo

>>40429111
>10 or 15 iu

holy shit breh i bet that fucked with your ghrelin levels pretty hard since you took so much.

http://www.yourhormones.info/hormones/ghrelin.aspx

albiet i dont know enough to offer advice but i see your reasoning for taking it all at once.

>>40428859
Thanks for all of the input, tons of useful stuff and definitely about what I expected with entry level sales

>>40428887
>>40428887
personally I hate var, but your stack looks fine for it. 40mg isn't much though for var, I personally prefer 60-80.

Anyway, if you've had gyno previously, I say nolva to be safe but you should really only *need* asin.

>>40429170
and i shouldnt give advice on shit ive never taken also.

>>40429090
Yes I know it's not illegal to possess steroids. But there is a import law about medications, drugs and quasi drugs that specifies a supply length like two months or something. But who knows what two months is on things that aren't prescribed like other steroids besides test.

Raw powders aren't finish medications either so it's hard to say. Possessions and importing the drug itself is okay. Importing vials for personal use seems to be perfectly fine. But a larger amount and in raw powder might pose different issues.

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>>40429111
feeling numbness? anything noticable yet?
you ordered oversea to east coast yes? no probs?
I have no probs dropping cash for my hormones, gh has always made me hard to justify spending (also being a pussy)

>>40429233
Numbness yes, it's basically exactly DNP peripheral neuropathy

Noticeable is i am so fucking lethargic. It is worse than 500 dnp but i will probably get used to it. Im also sick because my family eats their own shit and then spreads their diseases to me so maybe that's part of it.

I can actually sleep for more than 2 hours straight, and it is completely uninterrupted and deep as hell.

Have an extreme sense of feeling good, but all i want to do is sleep. Don't even want to eat.

And yea i ordered to a 0-3 zipcode, no customs trouble

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>>40429284
Alright alright i'm sold.
how many iu you plan on doing a day? everyday? weekends off? how you doin this playa

>>40429284
Also my hands, forearma, feet, lower legs, and neck all feel tight as fuck. And i am getting lines from my socks on my legs, from the water retention.

It surprised the hell out of me also when I went to inject water into the vial, and thr vacuum sucked all the water out of thr syringe explosively. Gonna inject air first next time maybe

>>40429295
There was a study i saw showing eod fucks your natural response to your own bodies HGH less in the long run compared to ED injections, that was done on short kids. So I have to read more but for now I am gonna do EoD until I get my bac water, then fuck around with various dosing protocols

Assuming a 15 iu vial, gonna do 60 iu a week regardless of schedule

>>40429317
>60iu/wk
oh man, i thought i could stretch this longer. I was thinking lik 4iu/day just help with well being and fatloss and gh that full look.
this is your first run with gh too? baller status

>>40429335
Well 60 assuming this new batch #25 is dosed at 150iu a vial like the old black tops batches. But yea

>>40429360
so I could still get a bang with the 4/5iu assuming?
And good to know with the sleep, maybe I could comfortably run tren again

>>40429385
Your dose would probably be better solely for sleep purposes, since at this high ass dose ALL i want to do is sleep... but that dose might make you actually able to fall asleep on tren, while simultaneously not making you sleep all day

>>40429408
But i am not exactly the hgh expert. I just know the general rule for BB purposes is to run as much as you can afford as long as possible

>>40415201
DNP is way too harsh. You could accomplish better results by running test e 500mg×13 weeks with Anavar 50mg daily for the last 8 weeks.
I just finished my 2nd DNP cycle which gave me 21 lbs off in 2 weeks. It was utter hell though. Will never repeat.
If you are a moron and hate your life, disregard what i just said and run a dnp cycle. Use DMAE and NAC for lethargy and heat sides, but even those won't help much once you're doing 500mg or more of dnp
>my results below
http://i.imgur.com/khy4ylc.png

>>40427643
Glands I missed your post but the T group is people on Nolva. Of the Ralox group, there was significant improvement in 9/10 patients from what I'm seeing.

>>40427614
There is a EU based source that has pharma ralox now. But my order from them (not of ralox but something else) took just as long as my order from India.

>>40428368
>what my dad did and hes a self-made millionaire.

What exactly did your dad do? Mirin the financial independence.

>>40429427
>DNP is way too harsh. You could accomplish better results by running test e 500mg×13 weeks with Anavar 50mg daily for the last 8 weeks.
this is so fucking stupid

>>40429440
Oh so it's better than i thought but idk. If i had tits i would want that fucking shit gone ASAP, not potentially waste months and months of my life to only have a chance of it going away

Just me tho idk

>>40422324
Damn, why didn't you go with nolva if you're E2 prone? Doesn't nolva reduce actual gyno?

>>40429470
Explain. Dumb nuts.

>>40429470
You can shred on var and test 10x better than dnp alone.

>>40429527
>dnp is too harsh
>"i lost 21lbs in 2 weeks"
>"you could get better results in 13 weeks of (insert bullshit here)"

>>40429527
dumbass DNP burns fucking calories like old people fuck. its like sucide cutting at 500 calories for months on end in a single day if you dosage right.

test E and var doesnt fucking compare when your only goal is to lose wheight.