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in4 anon gunning down alex in the parking lot of planet fitness

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mkkk-677 just cured my arthritis!

reminder to keep our resident humble sarms salesman in business anonymous

>>40209608
I like these ironic shill posts

they make me laugh

whats the best way to get rid of light back arcne?
basic hygine and frequently changed bedsheets already in place.
stoped my 600tren e blast newyears and ever since i got it (still on 250test)

also my next deca eq blast is sitting in my drawer waiting to get pinned. waiting for my sinusitus operation in march before starting.
if i dont get my arcne under control i just blast some accutan then

Holy fuck that last general.

I know Trips and ANons were worried that that alex and gland shit was getting out of hand...

There was practically no roid talk at all in that general. Goddamn.

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>>40209220
I asked a couple dumb questions, a few days ago. I came back with a few more questions. Hopefully they are more informed.

I'm planning on running a cycle for 16-20 weeks, and then coming off to gauge the way things went.

Is this an appropriate action to take?

I'm kind of 50/50 on whether I want to take PED's for the rest of my life.

So this is what has me skeptical as to whether I should continue forward, or not.

I'm not really looking to add anything to my TestE cycle, as I have read that it is best to start with one substance.

Anyway, here's my game plan:
300mg Test E- twice a week. 16-20 weeks.
20mg of Nolvadex- ED starting 1.5-2 weeks after my last Test E injection.
I may also consider buying HCG, just in case I need it.

Opinions?

>>40209834
I like the drama

Has estp posted since the "I'm pregnant" bomb?

>>40210065
>Opinions
That girl's face and hair looks like shit.

If they intentionally have short hair they're worthless.

>>40210065
moar pics btw

>>40210093
>intentionally
Tf

>>40210065
20 weeks is pushing it, plus the upregulation of myostatin protein means that you will start getting diminishing returns the longer it goes on. I would keep it to 16 at most.

You don't seem to have any kind of AI planned. You need one.

Your PCT is on the low side, esp for 16 weeks. Do 40mg every day for the first two weeks then 20 every day for the next two.

I would very strongly recommend you get bloodwork done before you start and a a month or two after you're done with your PCT.

>>40210093
I mean its one thing to not like short hair on girls
Its another thing to go full autistic redpill
>hurr durr i know gurls pysches

>>40210065
I think shes hot anon

Opinion on your cycle? Why are you doing so much for so long for your first cycle? And you better have an AI on hand.

If you aren't sure about cycling then just stop at 12 or 14wks.

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>>40210093
Better?

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>>40210139
man how do I fuck up the name 3 times FUCK

>>40210136
4u

>>40210139
Myostatin eventually drops back down.

>>40210198
yes... not while you're still using though. which is why you don't go on infinitely long blasts (well that and lipid fucking)

What's a good compound to add to my second time running test+tren

>>40210140
Closet faggot. I know men's Psyche's. Short hair girls with boyish frames are for twink lovers.

>>40210136
Long hair is a universally desired attribute on women outside of the sexually confused. It shows good health and protein intake over a significant period of time. Just like a nice ass shows they're good at running jumping and expressing power through their hips, as well as babbies i.e. genetically healthy and will give you strong offspring.

>>40210143
Stay mad closet twink lover

JBFLGF

>>40210215
Quick google shows that myostatin returns to baseline at about the 20 week mark according to a post giving a tl;dr of a deleted study.

So if you could find me the original study that'd be nice and we could clear this up

>>40210236
hurrrrrr durrrrrrrrrrrrr i go to imageboards to express my anger over sex

You need to get laid my main man

>>40210262
excellent post

>>40210268
The only ones angry here are the closeted twink lovers.

>>40210278
I'd fuck a twink

Nothing homos about wanting to totally dominate another man


No homo

>>40210065
AI?

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>>40210139
I got told in the last thread that 12-14 weeks is a fairly short cycle. As well as the r/steroids wiki saying that a 'medium length cycle' is around 16-20 weeks.
Regardless, I will absolutely keep your advice in the back of my mind.

Sorry, that's my bad for missing that part. Just trying to be as accurate as possible.
I'll definitely be buying Aromasin, as well. I'm not entirely sure when I would consider taking it, though.
Thanks for the genuine opinion, and the correction with the PCT.

>>40210140
I don't really have a reason to do such a long cycle. I figured from what I've been reading that it's a moderate length cycle. But if you /frauds/ are saying to shorten it, then I will definitely consider that.
I will ^

>>40210236
Why so mad, friend? I gave her long hair, just like you wanted...
Tbh, if I was a fag, I'd be fucking tons of boipussy. I'm not afraid to do what I want, my nigga.

>>40210285

I'd rather get pounded by a dominant effeminate twink, just as a joke to make him think I'm gay.

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>>40210161

>>40210307
What a prank
That would sure teach them a lesson

>>40210236
Nah man I think all your shit is just retarded.

>>40210306
>I got told in the last thread that 12-14 weeks is a fairly short cycle
if I'm thinking of the right person, you said 10-12 and you were told to not do 10, because yes, that's short.

12-14 is perfect. 16 is also okay but definitely on the longer side, especially for a first cycle.

many schools of thought with AI, some people will tell you to wait for the first sign of aromatization, others will tell you to just take a low dose every pin day and taper up/down from there. it's hard to give a one answer fits all because some people will aromatize like crazy and need 25mg ed while others will need 0 their entire cycle

I'm doing a PPL routine and hitting chest and shoulders in one workout. Would I be better off hitting chest in the morning, getting a few meals in, then going back in the evening to do shoulders?

I know I could ask this elsewhere, but since I'm on steroids some training concepts change.

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ITT: salty faggots mad that I scientifically shit on their homo twink fetishism

>>40210363
Yes, actually.

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>>40210380
>when all you succeed at is getting us to post short hair waifus

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>>40210380
it's not a secret senpai

What happened to all the DNP threads /fit/ used to have? Did mods shut them down? Is DNP often discussed in /fraud/?

>>40209834

Drama is fun though

The girl is blowing me up zzz

Also she's being rude, saying I disgust her, then asking me for favors like 'delete it'

I'm trying to be accommodating but fuck her desu if she will be rude to me

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>>40210352
Yeah, that was me.
Is there any particular reason why I'd want to shorten my cycle? Aside from the the other anon said, earlier.

You guys have convinced me that the best route to go would be 14-15 weeks.
I'd have to buy another vial if I wanted to stay on longer, anyway.

If I've worked things out correctly, then it should look like this.
3x10ml vials of 300mg TestE.
1 bottle of 50 count, 20mg nolvadex.
1 bottle of 50 count, 12.5mg aromasin.
I'm still unsure about the HCG.
Is that better?

Also, what about needle gauges? For drawing/pinning?
I've heard various suggestions.

>>40210425
Moar.

>>40210515
you can check the archive, they don't get deleted, they just don't get enough posts and then die due to old age.

we discuss it a lot.

>>40210521
That's not a favor. Kinda just being a decent person to delete sensitive material when asked.

>>40210538

'U are a disgusting peice of shit' hey by the way do this for me

Nice attitude Mirrin

>haha let's go on a date with the intention to be together long term
>but I'll log back on a dating app and talk to other dudes

Wew that was close I could've gotten cucked by her

Who is Alex and why do you guys hate him so much?

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Just picked up 5 lb of casein
Psmf starts tommorow

>>40210562
I think it's the rat face, is the problem.

>>40210562
Who gives a fuck. Women and men talk all the Fucking time. Your buzzwords don't mean anything because you aren't a "cuck" unless you specifically practice that fetish. Otherwise you're just a dude who made a poor choice in a woman to invest in. Doesn't matter though because it's a shitty lonely mentality constantly playing "gotcha" in invested relationships. Take the shit when it comes. You and a lot of others here like you, spend way too much time analyzing others behaviors and what they could possibly do to hurt you, VS analyzing how you can be a person that won't be treated in such a manner.

Hint you skinny nerd: it's not muscles, money or "being alpha"

>>40210525
>Is there any particular reason why I'd want to shorten my cycle? Aside from the the other anon said, earlier.
the longer you stay on, the more your lipids get fucked, thus higher health risks. also, diminishing returns as mentioned before but that's not as big a deal.

there's just not much reason to go that long anyway, you'll make great gains just going for the typical first cycle length of 12-14 weeks.

I would tell you to get hcg if you insisted on going 20 weeks+, but otherwise it's fine.

drawing is usually done with .5" 21-23g (it doesn't really matter much though, it just changes how long it'll take to fill the syringe). injecting with 1"/1.5" 25-28-29g.

>>40210584
Read the previous thread

>>40210538
Oddly enough I agree with alex on this. If you're gonna be a cunt about it I ain't doing shit

>>40210562
Why don't you just namefag consistently?

Do you feel like everyone HAS to read your posts? Give us a choice. You have your own brand of autism that you're proud of and you're free to post it. But when you post so prolifically it gets to a point where some people want to unsubscribe and just read about steroids and bimbo's roommate.

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>>40210601
Or instead we can be like you with a crazy on again off again bitch of a gf, right?

>>40210611
It's 404'd, and you guys talk shit about him in LITERALLY every thread. Just tell me.

reminder to please ignore alex

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Im just starting a 12 week test-e cycle

Still undecided whether I want to eat everything in sight and try to gain as much lbm as possible or eat at a slight surplus.
Opinions?

>>40210611
Sure I'm inclined to agree but she's ready proven unstable and sketchy, why push it? Just tell her to fuck off then delete it. Damn. All he's doing is antagonizing a situation that can only go south.

>>40210628
I didn't say I was a beacon of truth or leadership here, I have my own issues with walking away from a heated situation or being able to react appropriately; however, I don't judge a person value based on how many or which dudes they're talking to. It just shows major insecurity on his part and honestly she's probably better off getting railed by the next guy, if alex is so insecure about his position.

My ex is a bitch but I don't doubt for a second she's going to come home and suck me off and be happy that it's me and not someone else. Her job is talking to other men; it's not something that eats at me because I'm not constantly bothered about who or what she's talking to or letting inside of her.

>>40210602
Thank you for the information, anon.

Much appreciated.

>>40210684
>Sure I'm inclined to agree but she's ready proven unstable and sketchy,
lol

timeline:
>alex posts rape fantasies, calls her a 5/10 and posts her profile on a steroids forum
>someone tells her
>she, understandably, freaks out and demands he deletes everything he posted

UNSTABLE AND SKETCHY

>>40210797
Oh okay nvm then. Dude delete the nudes then block her because you're just building a case for sexual harassment.

Almost passed out at the gym just now. I was warming up for my cg bench and suddenly I started feeling super lightheaded. gave up after 3 warmup sets, it really felt like something was wrong.

Weird.

>>40209608
actually legit wondering about this stuff now after reading the reddit compound experience thread

can you post those bloods again? were you only on mk677 at the time or peptides too?

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/fraud/ question, test e cruise 200/pw can i add some clen to cut up and i'm cutting on the cruise? want to look like pic related

>>40210601

>>40210797
you know the context I mean.

>what you can do to avoid being treated in such a manner

Wrong Bimbo. It's about the girls. Good ones don't pull shit like that.

>hint you skinny nerd

There's nothing you can do if the woman is wrong Bimbo. Nothing would make someone not capable of decent behavior act in a decent manner.

>>40210797

Nah, that's not what's up. What's up is I legit thought she as a sweet girl, and we discusssed dating long term, and had set up a date.

So when anon said he was gonna message her I was like 'why would she even open that?'

He just seriously dodged a bullet. I have no fucking job anymore, lift weights 3 hours a day, and bang random sluts daily.

I've achieved everything fraud posters want to be and wish they could be.

But for me, it isn't enough, I wanna be big, all I care about.

But I was willing to stop and commit, and for what? To get cucked.

I guess I will just zyzz it up a little longer frankly, why not.

I don't know. Nothing feels good except getting bigger and if someone chews mastic gum or switches from SS to a real routine, that feels good.

I just wanna shitpost and lift. That makes me happy

So I'm gonnna spend my life being happy and doing things that make me happy.

Most of the board wants to just bang random girls nonstop, so I'll just keep doing that, I guess maybe they will take my mastic threads more serious? I ever had a real problem with women with no jaw but it just couldn't be easier now that I have an actual male jaw.

And not even caring about women, it's a confidence boost to have a fucking masculine normal jaw

Please chew gum if u don't have one genetically I promise you will like it

i cant stop doing coke xanax fucking sluts and blacking out its stalling my gains !!!
who where /nowillpowerdegenerate/
this is all very recent too, like last 4 weeks been on a mini bender.
do i subconsciously want to kill myself???

>>40211205
>all that
>stalling gains
How do you even have gains after shit like that?

Alright boys lock it up. Threads over he's done it all. Alex won.

>>40211253
because im taking steroids

>>40211287
Kek

>>40210681
WEAK ASS CORE, how do you even press with that.

Bulk 2K surplus.

Test

>>40211443
Hey barbell
Are you the original barbell from like 2-3 years ago?

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Welp I give up for real. Any pressing with internal rotation fucks with my shoulder.

No horizontal, incline or decline bench, with barbell or dumbell. No dips. Flys are the worst for this, besides cable flies which honestly do shit all for me. The closest I can get to using my chest without shoulder pain the next day is in partial ROMs like board/floor press.

So Im fucking done with it. I'm gonna accept my shit chest and just get the biggest boulder roid shoulders anyone has ever seen. It's gonna be RAW and SICKENING.

>Pic related but so much more disgusting. You'll shit your pants at the sight

>>40211468
Anavar only.

>>40211500
Cycle

>>40211499
Do neutral grip dumbell presses.

Am I alright to add in 20 accutane while on 40 var?

>>40211500
How is it going the chief who once ran gear?

>>40211500
Im the anon who asked the other day about tren with no BB
It worked. 2% BA 0% BB 200mg/ml and not crashed.

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Wwwweeeeeeeeeewwwww. Monday night massacre time.

Boy, I want off Bannon's wild ride already.

>>40211020
Can you? Yes. Why not just do an extra hour or two of cardio each week, it would have more or less the same effect?

>>40211499
Seen a doctor?

>>40211543
You'll probably be fine. That's a pretty low dose of var and iso, so your liver should be able to handle it. Stop if you get lethargy. Might want to have NAC and/or TUDCA on hand in case.

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>>40211546
That's some bunk ass tren you've got there son. Either that or you boiled the hell out of it.

>>40211532
I've tried it. Football bar too, cambered bars, reverse grip, nothing stops the impingement in those last few inches where I cam actually feel a stretch in my chest. Im just fucked for horizontal pressing.

Nbd though I'll just set a new trend. People will vomit at the REVULSION they feel looking at my DISGUSTING delts

>>40211637
Its tren e duder, enanthate is way more soluble than acetate or propionate. Other guys have been reporting these tren e raws are good too so im not worried.

>>40211590
t. cuckmeister

>>40211639
Dont forget FACE FRAME and HEIGHT

speaking of tren E does 300mg/ml tren e sound legit or BS?

i am thinking he just sells 250mg/ml as 300

>>40211680
What does amy of that have to do with my OBSCENE delts?

At 5'6" would SARMs do a comparable job to steroids?

>>40211496
Yeah

>>40211718
What does being a manlet have to do with it?

>>40211718
at 5'6 you should kill yourself instead of walking around as the shining beacon of overcompensation

>>40211706
big DELTS on a little MAN with narrow CLAVICLES and an ugly FACE are not as impressive.

>>40211718
would hot dogs be comparable to steaks if it's 70 degreees outside?

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>>40211724
they have to roid less to get the same results as a tall fag has to with a longer cycle.

>>40211695
Yeah its doable with ethyl oleate, probs legit.

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Anyone have anything to say about SARMS?
my bro was taking YK-11 and saw huge gains but had hair problems. he has also cycled tren and a few other things.

Should I do it? SARMs seem easier than Tren and everything else you need to deal with the side effects.

>>40211668
Isn't 200mg/ml standard for tren e?

>>40211731
Ok I can buy skeleton structure messing with it but no one is going to be looking at my face when they see my ABOMINABLE delts

>Good thing I'm 6'3" and thicc tho

>>40211744
SARMs have the benefits of a 300mg/wk test cycle, with the side effects of eating a scoop of dirt from outside.
Unknown.

>>40211748
Yeah or 250 but most people use BB to brew it, i wanted to see if i could get away with just BA.

>>40211744
Don't bother with sarms. Go full fraud or stay out of the kitchen.

>>40211785
B-but abs are made in the kitchen...

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>>40211802
LOL no all things are made in the gym. 80% working out 20% diet 10% roids(which can make up for the other two)

>>40211802
The quote is "abs are built in the gym and revealed in the kitchen"

>>40211820
>>40211826
It was a joke guys, dont get your nuts in a twist.

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>>40211668
I've never heard of someone getting tren e into a stable solution at 200mg/ml not using any BB. But maybe I just don't pay attention.

>>40211820
Wait how are roids only 10% if they can make up for the other 90%?

>>40211820
this percent shit is retarded you need all 3 at a bare minimum. beyond the bare minimum some are more important than others but without that, you'll get nowhere regardless of what you are running

i may or may not know someone who has been roiding for 6-7 months BnC, who is now on fucking TREN, who squats and benches 1 plate and weighs ~130lbs because he refuses to eat because "i just can't"

>>40211842
I read one post on some random steroid forum from 2011 saying he got it to hold so i thought fuck it why not try.

>>40211848
Im a good example of what IIFYM, sloppy training and roids will get you...swimmermode

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>>40211837
> dont get your nuts in a twist.
had that happen before and its utterly and horrifcly painful.

>>40211845
10% in terms of the amount used, knowledge, duration ect, if your workouts and diets is shit then it will vastly make up for the other two in terms of results.

>>40211848
the logic is that you see more results from focusing on your workouts then you would if your entirety of your focus was on your diet. the third is supplementary and not necessary but will make massive differences if you have the first 2 in order.

fuck it idk heres some food links
http://imgur.com/gallery/7QcBS
http://imgur.com/a/5nbmA

>>40211744
>my bro was taking YK-11
lol

>>40211837
It wasn't a very good joke anon, especially since you had to explain it was a joke

>>40211873
I dont recognize you, did you go by another name at some point? Been here a few years now

>>40211848
>may or may not know someone who has been roiding for 6-7 months BnC, who is now on fucking TREN, who squats and benches 1 plate and weighs ~130lbs
Jesus

Pics?

>>40211926
sells to grandpa im new and infrequent poster. mostly here for the memes and learning pitfalls of other anons is refreshing.

ignore me if you hate me but dont block me since ive helped a few anons here and there when i can.

mooseys back acne died down signifgantly since i recommended him to take 500mg of DIM daily so im slightly helpful

>>40211926
He's a schizophrenic natty that likes to horde information but has trouble distinguishing valuable knowledge from bullshit and fluff

give me that fucking S D R O L.
If i am running 30mg in 10mg caps what should my dosing schedule look like? all pwo or what?

>tfw the pilocarpine is fucking my vision so bad i cant read the board at all in class even if i sit all the way up front so i cant fucking learn anything

>>40211950
One in morning, one pre wo, one post wo

Or whatever i just made that up. Maybe google the half life and go for stable bloods?

>>40211949
working on the distinguishing knowledge part
>>40211966
with any oral the arguement is wether stable bloods or a burst before and after the workout is most ideal

>>40211950
I'd do 10mg in the morning then 20mg preworkout

>>40211934
don't want to post his pics but what do you imagine 130lbs 5'6 to look like. lol.

>>40211966
>>40211980
im asking also because this apparently goes doubly so for sdrol since the timing of TUDCA seems to be extremely important in regards to how fucking garbage it makes you feel and how bad it fucks your liver (although mine is invincible so i dont care too much)

>>40211946
Oh okay. Nah not gonna block you or nothing just wondering whether you were an OG trip reborn

>>40211950
From what i read dosing it PWO yields the same gains and less lethargy than splitting doses, also makes it easier to dose tudca as its dosed 3 hours after you take the oral.

>>40212001
Just crop out his face and background in mspaint. C'mon do it for the thread

And search for the sdrol discussion thread on r/steroids they had one a few months back, shouldn't be too hard to find

>>40211946
moosey said the DIM did absolutely nothing actually lol

>>40212036
i just saw alex get fucked for leaving an image up for 15 seconds i don't want to risk it

and yeah i read that already but /r/steroids is not exactly the best source of info IMO, they are either all fat as shit or dyel 150lbs asians on tren and sdrol.

it's hard to find info on it though because 99% of posts on the internet about it are from retards taking it solo.

>>40212025
that's what i was reading just making sure, and also was wondering if it's different at 30mg.

>>40212049
wut he said it got rid of most of it, but did nothing once he removed his azin off his cycle becuase he was afraid of estro shutdown.

ill have to ask him again then wtf, it works well for me

>>40212079
why don't all of you people just run accutane

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>>40212101
from what i read it makes depression worse. but joint problems are my biggest concerns since i run often.

>>40212062
>and yeah i read that already but /r/steroids is not exactly the best source of info IMO, they are either all fat as shit or dyel 150lbs asians on tren and sdrol
Where do you think you are lmao

>>40212128
that shit is/was easily worth not having acne anymore IMO

worst side effect by far was that it made my hair and eyelashes fall out, i thought it was balding.

>>40212132
https://imgur.com/a/FNVlR

this fucking pic is AFTER this RETARD blasted tren and superdrol, LOL.

>" Went up 10 pounds, after dropping the sdrol kept 5."

wow 5 lbs total blasting tren and sdrol

wow

>>40212156
How long was that blast lmao

>>40212101
They're scared of sides. People read the accutane forums where originally people are prescribed these absurd nuke doses of 80mg+/day and see the horrible sides there, then they placebo themselves.

If you take like 20mg/day there's almost no sides. Just dry skin (duh) and sometimes other minor shit that fades quick

>>40212212
yeah and 20mg/day also does nothing other than prevent

the moment you hop off, boom, acne is back

>>40212212
>>If you take like 20mg/day there's almost no sides. Just dry skin (duh) and sometimes other minor shit that fades quick
that was basically my exact experience at 20mg

i "blasted" 40mg for like two weeks after I did DNP though to get rid of the acne that came with constantly being soaked in disgusting sweat. been off for 3 weeks or so now and still hasn't come back.

>>40212178
he didn't say but it was tren E with a sdrol "kickstart" so i'm assuming a pretty long time...

look at that dyel fucking shit... how do you take steroids as harsh as tren and sdrol, and look like that, and feel good about yourself for what you """""""accomplished"""""" (he was posting about how hard it is for him to gain weight LOL)

>>40212231
nope, 20mg killed it permanently for me, ran it for like 3.5 months

running 750 dnp brought it back but i just ran accutane for 2 weeks to get rid of it and it's still gone all this time later

>>40212243
Found the thread.

He probably just doesn't do heavy back work or eat. All chest. Standard curlbro shit

>>40212331
not working out back or legs is a sin against any workout routine.

>>40212331
>>40212340
he literally posted he does not work legs

https://i.imgur.com/Mib31TL.jpg

>>40209608
>>40209652
Ironically enough MK677 (and HGH) can do wonders combined with TB-500 and BPC157, the latter two work by potentiating GH receptors in places for healing, so raising your GH makes them more effective.

oh, is it already time for another episode of "glands makes fun of someone who looks infinitely better than he does?"

>>40211744
Havent tried YK11, its steroidal, its said to be a rather weak anabolic however at the same time to be an actual myostatin inhibitor and thats where its effects come from allegedly.

I like LGD and Osta for diff reasons, LGD is good all round purpose, stacks very well with test but need to watch the estrogen, Osta does too, osta appears to give me a lot of healing (had a few tendon issues at the time, cleard up with test+osta) but much less anabolic activity.

>>40212388
Yeah it's a rerun, I'm just gonna switch back to "will they or won't they: the bimbo chronicles"

>>40212353
Decent chest and leanness

That's about it. Could probably get everything else about his physique natty, even the bodyfat. Kinda strange he chose to roid.

>Doesn't train legs
What else is new. No big deal though, I'll get massive and strong thighs for him.

>>40212388
To be fair, this time it is kinda deserved.

>>40212416
not really, because he looks worse.

>>40212435
>No fun allowed

We're making fun of some dude who ran a cycle of tren and sdrol and gained 5lbs. Who also doesn't work his back or legs. You're allowed to joke about that.

>>40212444
not if you don't look better than the retard

you're just admitting you're worse than a retard

>>40212505
i am pretty sure even my forearms are bigger than that retards 10 inch arms but ok

i dont think it is possible for a white man to look tinier than this

https://imgur.com/a/FNVlR

my little brother probably has more LBM than this guy

his phone looks wider than his fucking arms

>>40212444
Mirin jerrbears

Let's try building each other up.

Alex: you made really good progress and despite yourself, I'm mildly impressed.

Glands: sometimes you say funny things albeit I think unintentionally also yourbit hinn about your family shows how much you actually care

>>40212541
lol

uhh. trust me i don't "care" about them at all. in fact the complete opposite.

like if my dog gets hurt i feel bad for him. when these fucking morons take a little fall and get basically crippled from it since they are so obese it is the funniest shit on the planet to me. it was disgusting today, seeing them sit on the floor and then try to get up and fail "ugghhh i cant get up"... it makes me sick.

>>40212524
no body pics = dyel
no face pics = ugly

>>40212524
He's Asian not white. He blames his trouble gaining weight was genetix and not refusing to eat more.

>>40212612
>ugly
have you missed my last 9 months of shit posting by any chance, where i will not shut the fuck up about how disgusting i am?

i only look human at night before i go to bed, then for some reason when i wake up the glands are bigger.

also i will never post a pic in this shit, look at what just happened to alex for posting a picture then deleting it 5 seconds later.

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> tfw you've been lurking /fraud/ getting ready to do your first cycle
> coinbase deposit posts early, time to buy
> refresh that tab with your shopping card filled with pharma asin and novaldex
> "The connection has timed out"

well, I guess I'm glad it happened *before* i sent my btc...

the fuck do i do now? buy homemade pills of anti-estrogen powder from my test source or what.

>>40212591
I see through u glands loves his family

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>>40209220
Anyone here used Superdrol? Thinkin bout runnin a cycle

tfw pin tren and lungs hurt like shit for a while after

>>40212763
ok

>>40212767
inb4 sdrol only

>>40212791
Yee just 6 weeks sdrol what can I expect

>>40212815
Your natty test to be shutdown
Also extreme lethargy and possible liver damage seeing as sdrol is the harshest common oral

>>40212749
Speaking of which, whats the quickest and easiest way to get Bitcoin in the US?

Shitty fucking IRS shut down circle

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How exactly were steroids first developed? I heard that the olypimic Russian weightlifting team first used injected testerone but has there been cases of useage of PEDs in earlier history?

>>40209220
>clicking this pic while lurking on my TV as a monitor, with "fit screen" set for pics
SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE THAT

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Hahahahahahaha

>>40212953
bulgarians used to eat cow testes to give them strength

>>40212953
They were first developed via natural selection as a way to create and sustain human biology as we know it today.

>>40212953
russ olympians were basically used as guinea pigs.

the gear was developed for spaceman.

>>40213112
Actually testosterone is a neat universal hormone found in everything from yams to ants to humans!

>>40213134
You ever frontloaded tren e before? How long before you feel it?

>>40213081
10/10 would rape anally then shoot myself

>>40213081
I don't get it

>>40213501
Its alex

>>40213134
how do i fit live ants into macros. asking for a friend

>>40213513
stale meme

>>40213521
Protein

A gram of ants is a gram of protein??? 2 calories per ant?

>>40213599
Nvm yahoo says 1/2 kcal per ant so 1/8th g of protein at most?

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>>40213521
You have to inject the liquified ants IM dumbass, not eat them.

>>40213081
>not quite 5'11"

KING OF THE MANLETS

>>40213599
>>40213610
thank you. next question: w2c 5lbs of ants in bulk? pet shops seem hella overpriced

>>40213612
ticket to abscess city, disregarded

>>40213599
Why do you keep coming back to this thread.

dubs decide what I add to my next cycle

>>40213637
rolling for 500mg estradiol e3d

>>40213636
Boredom? You?

>>40213637
Rolling for 250mg test e and 860mg tren

>>40213637
DHB get

>>40213645
me too.
but irl you wouldnt spit in alex's face but you get shit from him everytime you come here.
I dont have to endure that.

>>40213637
Rolling for halo+mtren

>>40213637
Dimethylnandrolone

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>>40213521
Why do I have the sudden vivid vision that sourcing ants standardized for testosterone content by g would be hella profitable?

>>40213655
Because I don't invest into the words of children. He's truly an annoyance but not the end of days like we all enjoy him to be.

He's just a distraction from the real issue of the threads: lack of proper content generation.

>>40213637
>>40213640
Rolling for this. Thread is going to shit anyway so might as well give this anon some sweet titties.

>>40213637
cyanide

>>40213655
And how do you mean? You're right I wouldn't spit on him but why would he cause me to leave?

>>40213668
fair enough.
what are you running rn ?

>>40213651
Reroll for DHB + Trestolone

>>40213669
>Thread is going to shit anyway so might as well give this anon some sweet titties
shitposting instead of generating worthwile content. then again, I am literally doing the same with this post, how meta is THAT

>>40213676
Because of in this thread you get shit from a retarded NEET,its like you are going out of your way to hangout with middleschoolers.

>>40213637
DHB + ITPP

>>40213700
winrar

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>>40213678
Cruise dose test and 6.25mg Asin eod.

It's reduced moodiness and I can interact with my roommate all day and not roar at her. Win/win.

>>40213702
Anon please deliver

>>40213693
Tbh I feel for him. I see what's up.

He seems to lack complete awareness of Chan culture and how boards operate. We've completely shunned him for months. He's adopted a personality not unlike one of the more impressive trips of the board (mast) and other trips such as myself don't provide the most shining examples of how to conduct ourselves.

At the end of the day, we groomed an infantile young man to seek validation in bizarre and upsetting ways and it manifests itself through being obnoxiously detail oriented, competitive and loud.

I pity him and tolerate him because I feel responsible.

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>>40213713
That actually does make perfect sense. Weaponized autism is both a blessing and a curse when it comes to these things. We created a monster, but one that has a clear vision and goal in mind. Pic related I guess.

>>40213713
Idk man,I feel bad for you everytime he posts a fucking text wall for you to read it.
you are a cool guy it seems.
is lifting while being stoned fun

>>40213713
Always liked you bimbo
Nohomo

>>40213744
>>40213745
Idk he just doesn't get to me anymore now that I've considered him.

All the posts calling me out specifically have a tinge of "please recognize me" and I understand how that feels. I'm not going to embrace him because he behaves poorly and I won't enable that; but I won't actively fight him.

Lifting stoned is fun and a chore. The mind muscle connection is very intense, very quality however I concentrate on the sensation too much and lose track of reps of I just lift forever because my endurance or pain threshold seems to fly out the window.

Fun for pointless isolation work like arm day.

>>40213776
stoned as fuck and heading to gym rn.
take care bimbo

>>40213776
>Fun for pointless isolation work
fond memories of doing almost 2 hours of straight trap and delt work come to mind, wouldn't even have noticed if a friend wouldn't have started to pack up and head out (which he usually does after an hour and a half).

>>40213771
That's a nice thing to say thanks duder

I have been on a DNP cycle for a week now and I just upped my dosage from 250mg a day to 500. I was planning on not going past 500 but that will leave me with 5 left over pills after a 3 week cycle.Should I take advantage of this and on the last 5 days try 750 for at least a day?

>>40214125
you can, but it's not really advised. some people run up to 1g for the last week but that's just idiotic and wrong

>stuff left over
>might as well use it
speaking of which, I might do 2g/wk tren A next blast just because I'll have some left

>>40214180
Today was my first day on 500 and the side effects are still barely noticeable, except for the heat which works out okay cause its fucking cold where I am. My lifts were a little more difficult, but in a rewarding way. I guess I'll reevaluate after I've been on 500 longer.

>>40214213
well, you do you. report back with results m8

Damn.

I think I finally get it. Fucked my roommate tonight and she was just not into it. Foreplay was awkward and didn't let me touch her clit and fingering her hurt. She was weirdly dry. Sucking on her tits didn't turn her on. She only came twice. It just wasn't passionate or organic.

I'm tired of forcing her to do things she doesn't want. Tired of playing pretend.

I told her this and she just said "no. It's not like that but you won't believe me. You never do" and rolled over and went to sleep. Obviously not invested.

I didn't get angry. I just left to take a drive. I wish I had the money to just Ghost her and leave. She'd be happier.

>>40214180
>I might do 2g/wk tren A next blast just because I'll have some left
WHATEVER IT TAKES

>>40214225
>tfw partner climaxing only twice is considered really bad sex
eh, life's a bitch

Haven't been lurking for a bit, do you finally use AI? No roaring, actual sane reconsideration of love life, the whole nine yards. This seems off, knowing you. No offense.

Anyone here familiar with NPP?

I'm going to be running a Prop/Tren cycle soon, i have some NPP on hand and wanted to throw some in for my joints. Would a low dose of 100mg a week do anything?

>>40214244
350 test 6.25mg asin eod. It's mellowed me out. No physical changes but e2 fucks my mood up, so it's working.

I want to believe her when she says she's attracted to me, and wants to have sex but she just lacks a libido. We live together and spend most of our free time around one another, so I know she's not fucking on the side and she's not masturbating 4x daily like usual.

I just think she truly is over me/us and stress of living with me depresses her. She denies this too, just saying she's depressed in general and it's been like this for a while. Which is somewhat true; since I've been back we fuck 3-4x a week steadily VS our old 6-7x a day.

I wish I didn't have to take her with a grain of salt. Gut intuition just tells me I should bounce and be fine with it. I know she would be. I just can't trust when a woman calls "low libido". My other ex did the same thing and then when we finally split she fucked 12 guys in like 2 months.

I just drive women to a point of zero passion or interest.

>>40214270
No 100mg will do nothing. However 350 a week on top of a reasonable amount of tren (350-525) keeps me very full and thick where tren alone makes me gaunt.

>>40214296
So i won't feel shit for my joints on 100mg? I'm not adding the NPP for any of its other benefits really, just wanna run my tren cycle without any joint pains.

>>40214312
Grab some var or EQ then. Joint impact may be noticeable at 200mg, possibly.

Honesty I've never felt benefits joint wise from nandrolone. Only high high EQ, var and gh peptides.

I'd go with 400mg EQ if you want joint support. It's cheap and will only work alongside the tren in terms of dryness and vascularity.

>>40214288
Glad to hear. As much as I'm going to be flamed for it, no AI yolofeelgood is a meme, even with no physical sides whatsoever e2 is a cunt. I can't really give my two cents on the whole roommate thing because my love life is even more fucked up by a far margin (and not fucked up in the fun way, either), but thanks for sharing, really gives me some insight into the matter after not having followed your story for a while now.

>>40214324
I mean it is and isn't a meme. When I'm not put into high stress situations, I'm fine; however constantly battling feeling undervalued or invalidated on top of weird hormones does really fuck with your head.

What's your situation like? I feel it's hard to beat living with your lesbian ex girlfriend who roped you into living with her with the guise of "yeah well fuck whenever you want". It's stressful constantly being rejected or not having validation reciprocated. It's tough still giving 110% effort to the woman you adore and seeing that effort just isn't put towards you in the same ways.

We had a really good night tonight but it says a lot when her favorite things I used to do to her, she now just brushes off saying "I don't want that".

>>40214341
>however constantly battling feeling undervalued or invalidated on top of weird hormones does really fuck with your head
So, essentially, being a woman? Not trolling, but most mental e2 sides (be it too low or too high, although more so when too high) remind me of the way a few of my past women behaved kek

>What's your situation like?
Ugh the full story would take me freaking ages and I don't want to turn this into a "whose life is worse" pissing contest, but I essentially am in an open relationship with a psychotic cunt (who is also the mother of my sons) whom I cannot fully leave cause a) her father is a madman who would send me thugs for it and b) also a huge shareholder of the company I earn my daily bread at with no hesitations to ruin my career. Also c) the kids but that would be fine on its own. And the two women I'm boinking on the side (open relationship, remember) are not much better, but I need the sex and also the additional job prospects one of them brings me.

Lol typing this out makes me seem like a huge idiot, which I essentially truly am. Oh well. Sorry for blogposting but you did ask.

>>40214341
>t's stressful constantly being rejected or not having validation reciprocated

She doesn't think you deserve the affection so she witholds it.

>; however constantly battling feeling undervalued or invalidated

100% on you, you choose to let her make you feel a certain way, you choose to feel how you do.

YOu can't control her actions but you can control how you feel in relation to what she does.

>d. It's tough still giving 110% effort to the woman you adore and seeing that effort just isn't put towards you in the same ways.

There no correlation between the effort you put in and the affection you get

If you are giving her affection it should be because you want to, not because you expect some kind of reward.

Anyways she is a physcotic bitch and a whore, you wanted to see one long term, so enjoy the fucking misery.

Find a nice girl.

A lot of the stuff that you guys complain about is just a shit mentality and a weak willpower, not magical hormones.

Hormones, hormones, hormones, just man up.

ALways excuses, I do this, I act like this, because of this, just STOP

>>40214387
Yeah totally. I mean it's female sex hormone, you're going to have those mental processes occur. I may bump to 6.25mg ed. I'm sensitive to AI and high e2 (when I'm stable) makes me feel fine. Like I said, these specific circumstances fuck with me but maybe adjusting AI more will help with clarity.

I just wish she'd value me like she used to. She tries so so hard and I'm always finding problems with her. That wasn't passionate enough of a kiss or she missed an opportunity to touch me or she spent the evening just going on about herself and didn't once ask about me. Shit like that is tiresome to feel and isn't me.

On the flip side, she'll come home sometimes and jump on me and cover me in kisses. She's hard to judge. Maybe I'll take it day by day. Actually listen to her, watch her try and validate the good behavior. Baby steps. Don't let little things like how she doesn't perform like she used to get to me when we're rocky; of course sex won't be passionate when she's feeling stressed and uninterested in sex. She is fucking me and goon out of her to try to please me physically when she's not obligated to. I should appreciate that she cares enough to see that I'm struggling sexually and she wants to help however she can.

Your situation, whew man. To be frank, it's the exact situation I want to avoid and I'm already lightweight in. Trapped in a situation that has you in a financial strangle hold.

Is there any sort of counseling or therapy the two of you could seek? I'm old fashioned in some ways; I'd want to make it work as best as possible with the mother of my children. My ex had a miscarriage in a shower once. That moment I'll always carry with me and that moment will always make her a substantial priority.

Your side chicks are aware of your marital status? For both of us, it seems like communication is key.

>>40214422
I actually agree a lot with what you say. In much less abrasive terms, it's called mindfulness and a key concept is knowing that you can't control others, just your reaction to them. I have poor impulse control because I have a poor time separating what is and what is just intrusive thoughts.

Your opionions on whether or not she's a psychotic bitch and a whore though? Reason that to me.

>>40214437
Yours sounds ever so slightly bipolar, then again, that's just how women work after the pink glasses of the first stretch of time being in a relationship fade. I dunno.

>Is there any sort of counseling or therapy the two of you could seek?
I do, she is beyond help batshit cuckoo anyway, zombie on her meds, literally Hitler without. Incidentally, not-medicated sex is still the fucking bee's knees but everything else is terrible.

>Your side chicks are aware of your marital status?
""""marital""", we never got married, but yeah, they know of my situation. One does simply not care and is just in it for the sex, the other (the one with job prospects) does not mind as long as I give her enough attention and such, which is a hassle but doable.

>>40214451
You are taking shit from alex again.
And didnt you say you make 40k a month ? How come you dont have enough money to ghost her ?

>>40214479
Didn't even realize that was alex. I must be tired. He makes several valid points that are then easily refuted:
>she brought me a drink from work knowing I'd like it
>bought me dinner tonight without me asking
>lifted with me and took pics
>we laughed and cuddled in bed, threw out some 'good boy's and told me I get more tomorrow
>put in effort to please me physically

It's just tough seeing her struggle. I make that money but I don't have enough liquid to bounce and pay off my lease and get a new place. I'm not going to bail on my commitment to her, and she would not do that to me.

If that anon is alex, he can't place any bearing on how hormones actually impact a thought process or not. Hormones dictate almost everything about us to some degree. He makes valid points that do hold up to some scrutiny and make sense but on at surface level. Yeah, I recognize she doesn't "owe" me any reciprocation but she even recognizes her treatment of me isn't the best.

Coming from a dude that posted about wanting to rape his dates, his input is rather void. Women aren't here to please us as a gender and how he regards women bothers me. It's very "4chan".
>>40214475
Rose colored glasses are a bitch I agree.

Honestly I'd suck it up for the kids and try to make the best of it, which it seems you are.

>16 days since order was 'shipped'
>Bit is in Escrow
>Seller admits he fucked up and order is delayed
>Getting really pissed
I have enough cash to just make another order through a better source I found. Should I just open a dispute at this point, or wait to see if this jackass actually sends me a tracking number this week? I'm unfamiliar with shipping times on darknet markets.

>>40214521
>which it seems you are
Yep. The upside is, with the gym being the only place I can truly relax, my volume and frequency is ridiculously over the top, and it shows in dem gainz :^)

I've been on fraud a year and still don't care who Alex is, any post that even mentions him I just slide over.

But oh man, do I miss ESTP lewds.

>>40214521
>she wouldnt do that to me
Didnt she dump you and fucked random dudes for several weeks afterwards ?
What makes you think that shit isnt going to happen again ?

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>>40214521
>Women aren't here to please us
Theyre here to complain and ruin things
Birth control was a mistake, it lowers their test too much, making them inhumane

>>40214599
Nah other ex

>>40214618
source of pic?

>>40214296
Interesting you say about the nandrolone + tren combo.

How does dhb make you look?

tfw keep memeing dhb on here

>>40211744
currently taking cardarine (inb4 cancer) solution from IRC. supposedly helps with cardio, who knows if its helping or if im just getting fitter, but cardio does seem easier/ go by smoother

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>>40214521

My shit is valid always and often times I shitpost with you anon without forgetting to stop spacing my lines out and you agree with me,thank me for advice, whatever.

Usually like 5-10 anons reply and say 'yup' or 'listen to him bimbo too', and then u never do, so I dunno why bother?

>rape

U should know that rape P-L-A-Y is a kink? Like you have people burning you how do you not know this?

>hormones

Just one more excuse, I had 12" arms natty after a year of "trainng" because my "hormone levels". that way I don't need to accept responsibility for my pizza diet and lifting 3 times a week.

There are two kinds of people in life, people that look for excuses, and people that say 'fuck I just WANNA DO IT SO ILL TRY AS HARD AS I CAN'

>and how he regards women bothers me.

There are good women and bad women bimbo, your ex is bad, and she treats you bad.

Bad women not good for long term dating, they will treat you badly. Your ex is bad and she treats you bad.

I legitmatley want you to find a good woman to treat you nicely.

And then you can treat her nice and she will treat you well and you can be happy, like I want for you.

You gave me advice in discord and etc and it's part of the reason why I am bigger while being leaner than many steroid users after 4.5 months. U see their pics from first cycle "progress".

So I owe you one, even if you don't like me.

>his input is rather void

ALways void, my FFMI void, because it's me, my measurements void, because it's me, my phyique void, because it's me, always void.

But I posted my body and dropped trip and claimed I was on gear people would 'wow great progress man jsut one cycle?'

So I guess I will just need to wait until I'm on gear and bigger than everyone, then what are people gonna say? void?

>ut she even recognizes her treatment of me isn't the best.

THEN LEAVE HER LMFAO.

Like oh my fucking god, if you want to be treated better, fucking LEAVE.

>>40214668
Here comes a wall text.
Take cover bimbo this one is intense.

>>40214643
Never used it. I'd like to.
>>40214668
I keep agreeing with you but life is more complicated than how you place it.

What you do is called "splitting"; you've created a paradigm where things either are or they aren't. It's pure black and white for you. My roommate does the same thing and it's indicative of BPD. Seek help.

However, without invalidating you, you should scroll up to see how I feel about you. Your advice isn't unheeded just too clear cut to ever actually be practiced.

please ignore and hide.

>>40214695

OK, speaking are or isn't, she isn't good for you and you aren't rational enough to see it

You could find a nice sweet girl that will make u feel happy and feel loved instead of clinging to a relationship that makes you feel angry and un validiated

Would could be worse than being rejected by your partner? Doesn't it make you feel less attractive?

ESTP ex rejected me right around when she start cucking me; being rejected is not a good feeling why U don't just leave?

I wish I could go in a time machine and tell my dumbass 0 test old self what the fuck to do and how he could be happy like I am happy now

Anyways I went from 0 Ng/l probably, to normal and happy guy without TRT just from lifestyle changes like I posted before. So anons should consider that before TRT

I mean in general your whole attitude towards me is garbage I didn't even step on your toes because your physique is respectable for AAS use, so I respect it.

You don't have to be friends with me but you should consider and think about the things I say to you

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Ostarine: Do I need to PCT?

Also, what dosing do you guys recommend

So using a forum for sources, I found a couple verified clearnet AI/PCT vendors. I only want the AI.

One of them mentions the need for an emailed prescription. Do they add this in the FAQ as a formality? I emailed the main contact and mentioned the forum I found them in (they post there frequently).

>>40214830
I'm having a hell of a time trying to figure you out.

It's like your personality is literally a direct result of shitposting on /fit/

Your value heirarchy seems to be
>Physique
>Girls
>Money

And you latch on to these things to define a person's worth.

Like you saying
>I mean in general your whole attitude towards me is garbage I didn't even step on your toes because your physique is respectable for AAS use, so I respect it.

Is actually a bit insane in context.

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>>40215071
>like your personality is literally a direct result of shitposting on /fit/

see
>>40213713
>>40213744
and first half of
>>40213776
for reference

>>40214909
Never heard anything like this before. Try and order anyway, if they hassle about a prescription then just drop em.

>>40215098
Maybe it's the lack of sleep but he seems way more sincere in his character than masT. Like masT is just primarily baiting but alex seems to genuinely believe the things he says.

It's kinda creepy and fascinating at the same time.

>>40215071

In the context of bodybuilding (and I consider this a bodybuilding general) the hierarchy is

>how good is your body compared to other naturals

Or

>how good is your body compared to other roiders

So in terms of this general, I consider MasT to be king, because he BTFO everyone both categories

People on steroids look like me (or more dyel, how u fuck up that bad?) are lowest of the low

I don't care about girls, I just sleep with so many to shitpost my screen caps and stuff in CBT and shitpost at people, because most fit users are lifting for girls and they mad that I get more than they do

Pussy is worthless and cheap and I don't care or proud of myself for getting it anyone can

>money

Irrelevant,like why does it matter? I'm a better bodybuilder because I have money? No.

>define a persons worth

It's just all irrelevant, we are all people and humans, you're not better simply because you have more bragging rights in a bodybuilding thread on 4chan

If there is one way I value other men, then it is their drive and determination to meet their goals. Willpower.

This is another reason I have so much respect for MasT and admire him so much, he has an iron will and he chases he wants as hard as he can.

That's how u should live ur life

>>40215133
He's gone too far down the rabbit hole, and now none found can help him.

Jesus fuck can we get back to just discussing roids instead of constant drama and blogging.

Shits embarrassing.

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>>40215133
masT is his mentor, voluntarily or not, so while the former is probably an alright guy (I do kinda love him nohomo) who just keeps the WHATEVER IT TAKES shtick to motivate himself and others, his young scholar has taken it to heart and made it the main premise of his life, going so far as to tick off people from an imaginary list that he btfos. Radicalized /fit/izen, ISIS without the bombs but with guns (yes bicep joke haha I'm funny). Stockholm Syndrome'd by board culture, as I like to put it.

I both admire the dedication and am fearful for what else this mindset could be applied to. Let us hope that he never visits /k/ or the evil nuclear physics mastermind portion of /sci/ or we'll all be horrendously fucked.

>judging people's merit solely for physique
Kind of a logical side effect. He slanders brick and other stronk guize for looking like shit, the "pizza and donut diet lel SS for 6 months" thing is a cornerstone of his ramblings both here and in other threads, and he often uses mast's or moosey's natty pics as a shrine to pray to in posts where he talks about his goals. Again, had I had the weaponized autism he displays at his age, I wouldn't have taken half as long to reach whatever goals I might claim to have reached by now. It is truly worrying and awe inspiring at the same time, in equal measures.

>inb4 hurr durr whole essay about someone most people ignore and hide anyway
I'm bored and have an armchair in psychology, let me have this will you.

>>40215133
>>40215205
>have an armchair in psychology
armchair interest. lol

how long is tren a detectable in steroid tests after you stop taking it?

Ok

My jaw is now emerging. My JAW. IS NOW above the glands 3d depth wise at the masseter

GONNA BE A NEW ME. SDROL + MELANOTAN 2 + HEALED FACE + NO MORE FUCKING HOODIES (DONT WANT TO DRESS GOOD RIGHT NOW CUZ I WILL LOOK LIKE I AM COMPENSATING FOR BEING UGLY AS FUCK 1/10)

>>40215203
I mean this is usually constant blogging but it used to be "what unspeakable thing did estp do for smack money" and "what retarded thing did bimbo do with/for his ex". Not a bunch of retarded natty monkeys running around and sniffing each other's assholes.

>>40215227
Tren ace has a half life of about a day. In pharmacology a tough rule of thumb is seven half lives for something to be essentially gone from the body. So a week. They could always test longer acting metabolites though.

>>40215159
>I don't care about girls, I just sleep with so many to shitpost my screen caps and stuff in CBT and shitpost at people, because most fit users are lifting for girls and they mad that I get more than they do
And you really don't see how someone could look at that reasoning and go "this guy is fucking crazy"?

>>40215255
>They could always test longer acting metabolites though.

so... how would i go about this when competing? They might test at the day of the competetion

Im struggling on this pmsf refeed week
I have no appetite im too use to not eating

>>40215255
Any serious test would go after the metabolites

>>40215233
Post thin jaw

>>40215316
>I have no appetite im too use to not eating
drink your calories. blend EVERYTHING

>>40215205

>imaginary list

U want list?

- stoya : BTFO

- brick: BTFO

- catpiss: his back is more developed than mine. Extra back work. Soon BTFO.

- moosey natty: SOON

-kahuna: can be beaten natty with enough time I truly believe

- NatT : his everything more devolped, believe he can be beaten natty too

- Natty MasT/Bimbo: I actually retarded enough to believe I can match them natty

If it's been 10 years and I still haven't matched MasT natty pic at full pump and same angle and contest prep I will just pin right away

Like I said I have nothing but free time and money I really believe he can be beaten by me some day on pharama hgh and methlytren lifting 16 hours a day and shit

For now, I am just moving down my list, one by one.

>>40215270

Not really? My goal in life to be happy and I am happy and I'm doing it. Shitposting make me happy so I do it. Duh. do what make u happy

>>40215233

Glad to hear man.

See, this why I respect glands too. Glands do what glands wants and give no fucks

>>40215361
Thanks for proving my point. I'm not even mad.

Do you faggots worry about legal issues with gear? With the number of open roiders on youtube and in bodybuilding competitions, I'm assuming it's not much of an issue.

What would you even have to do to get busted for gear? The only situations I can think of are:

-buying gear from an undercover cop (lol, no cop sells steroids c'mon man)

-get caught literally doping in front of a police officer (lol)

-piss test at work causing you to lose your job (likely?)

>>40215400
LE really only cares about manufacture and distribution. Otherwise you're fine, they don't waste time with small frys. Just don't get your house searched or something equally stupid.

And no workplace piss test will be set up to detect roids.

>>40215400
>no cop sells steroids
I happen to know a couple who use and one who cheekily sells on the side. None of those will probably bother with locking you up so never mind. Just don't be an idiot about it.

>>40215427
>juicing cops
So THOSE are the "literal donut diet" roiders alex keeps raving about.

>tfw cringing at own bad joke before even sending, but what has to be done must be done

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>>40215462
"no"

But I laughed.

>>40215415
>>40215427
With that in mind, I think i'll start frauding.

Is it possible to "roid carefully?" I don't want too many side effects and I don't ever want to be mega huge. I don't want to blast myself with tren or anything like that.

What would be a good anabol to take in low dose cycles?
Last noob question I swear. I know a lot of things just from lurking here and I've never asked questions before. I know you guys find it annoying.

>>40215485
Literally just pin test at whatever dose feels comfortable. Getting xboxhueg accidentally is a meme, sadly.

>>40215485
It's annoying because all these questions are already answered in the reddit wiki literally in the first post...

>>40215485
REDDIT WIKI FFS

>>40215498
>Getting xboxhueg accidentally
I somehow did on my last rendezvous with mtren heh

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>>40215462

People have bad diet and bad results. It's simple. Roids and bad diet look natty. Natty and good diet looked roided. Look natty MasT look catpiss. Simple.

>getting mired non stop 24/7 by women
>never mired by men

Bad, bad, bad. It's because I'm too small.

Those of you that are big, how big did you get before you notice less attention from girls and more 'look how big that dude is' stares from men?

>>40209220
im feeling shitty and lethargic on a dbol and test e blast, its only week 3 so its definately the dbol not the test, is lethargy and feeling down just a side effect of dbol or is it estrogen?

im taking Asin 12.5 EOD should i up the dose? or are these side effects coming from the asin maybe? no gyno or acne or anything like that

>>40215643
liver

I ordered from adc in December
Wheres my damn ai

>>40215357
Thats more water though
Doesnt that make it more filling

>>40215538
Is that you in pic related alex?

>>40215671
Don't blend it with a liquid. Literally blend chicken breast and shovel it like ice cream lmao.

All shitposting aside, what helped me in this case was snacking throughout the day instead of actual refeed meals. Not sure how that influences leptin but I don't really care, I was having handfuls of food every 45mins. and it added up lol

>>40215661
anything i can do to help? iv been drinking a shit ton of water and taking taurine not sure what else I could do

i want the feel good dbol feeling everyone talks about

>>40211443
Was completely relaxed in that pic, I have abs when flexing
I strict OHP 80kg so its not terribly bad

>>40209188

I do 3 hours of supersets a day, 7 days a week.

Then I do an hour of cardio 7 days a week.

There is no routine, just do like MasT says to do, reps of 8-12.

I just lift like he say "until you wanna throw up and you think you can't do anymore but you do it anyways" direct quote, has been effective.

First month or two of this I experienced overtraining symptoms, now, I'm fine. No symptoms just gains.

>>40209145

'Genetics'

'Natty test levels'

I love love love this meme. How I can post about doing supersets for 20-30 hours a week and how I can post about my diet and then ppl look at my progress and say "genetics and test levels"

I will get blood work done just so we stop having this discussion.

>look great

I dunno, I think this is an ideal body to women. But according to MasT, I am a tiny twig. So, time to grow.

First bulk starts today, it's time to get big.

>>40215696
Can't really help you without knowing dose and such, but read up on tudca and/or lower the dose. Feel good dbol feeling is mostly a meme, but don't ask me I hate the stuff to begin with kek

>>40215643
Depending how you aromatize it could even be low estrogen

>>40215671
why do you still use the scamming Indians when phd exists

>>40215696
tudca is what you wanted

too little too late now

>>40215678

Yeah.

>>40215725
this is what iv been thinking, i havnt had any estro problems and used asin from day 1 but dropping my AI worries me cuz gyno

>>40214225
wtf if the sex is shit,why are you guys even fucking and why the fuck did you force her to have sex?

>>40215740
wtf you look amazing. Stats? I've not seen a pic about you till now, and from the way you talk about yourself id assumed you were fat and 4' tall

HAHAHAHA YOU FAGGOTS HAVE NO HAIR BUT YOU DO HAVE PLENTY OF GYNO AND ACNE TO MAKE UP FOR IT

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

>>40215778

Lifting 4.5 months

Starved self whole time like -1000 calories.

210--->170 5'10.5

MasT meme routine, supersets for hours doing random shit.

Never lifted before I started.

People informed me when I first posted on /fit/ that I would 'cut myself to a skeleton' and I "wouldn't be able to gain muscle cutting"

This is why I flame so hard in CBT, so much bad advice from retards.

MasT advice, saved me.

>>40215813
Hmm ok. Got any other pics?

>>40215813
>>40215833
I'd like to see some before pics definitely.

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>>40215833

I can't keep posting here for rest of day or it becomes Alex general and people can't get their roid info

Just don't listen to anyone that says to do a strength routine to look good. They are lying to you.

If Your body is soft, then you cut, I don't care how little muscle you have, get lean, then bulk.

Eat clean and train with effort, if you just go in the gym and do sets of 5 for 30 minutes 3 times a week you will need steroids to look like a dyel natty, natty, you just won't get anywhere ever

>>40215813
CBT is one cesspool of dyels and e-statters looking for validation. 90% got the "lifting for girls" mentality

>>40215872
what are those drops (I suppose) on the sink? serious question.

>>40214658
Cardarine is godly.

>>40215813
>wouldn't be able to gain muscle cutting
You literally cant

>>40215729
Old habits die hard lol

>>40215694
Thats gross
Easy jm

>>40215897
>Easy jm
how dare you

Any rountine recommendations for a 500mg p/w test-e bulking cycle?

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>>40215897
You can

>>40215872
Any decent strength routine is going to include tons of volume specifically for hypertrophy. You'll look fine if you're not high bodyfat/water retention.

>>40215925
Serge Nubret's is GOAT, some might not agree though.

>>40215878

I posted some screens from OkCupid and they dox'd the girls based on their face and Boston ma and sent them my archived posts and shit

How salty can u be

>>40215886

Vitamin D3 I take 6000ui a day. I don't go in the sun much so it's helpful.

>>40215897

Obviously you can. Look at my pics, look at That trip DNA guy.

Jerry, my back was so weak when I started I couldn't keep my back straight. Like I couldn't feel a muscle anywhere in my body.

If you are lotus, you can't gain any muscle mass cutting. Obviously. But if you have zero muscle mass, you clearly can gain minimal amounts.

So why not cut and emerge from the cut with a tiny micron of muscle mass and very lean, and be in a perfect place to bulk?

Bimbo also contests this info, telling me I am "delusional".

But then you see photos of fat ppl that cut and they somehow have more lean mass...

Anyways stop engaging me or we will be at bump limit

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>>40215935
Pic related

Small muscle groups (biceps, delts) are easy enough to build up. Sure they don't look like bodybuilders but that's mostly skeleton and muscle insertions rather than difference in lean tissue

>>40215960
just what I thought. thanks for clarifying

Anyone got pics before and after a deca/ test cycle? Thinking that's gonna be my next cycle (2nd ever) and wanna see what results it brings

>>40215935

Which is why random 18 year old natty kids in CBT and misc look bigger and leaner than candito and have better proportions?

>>40215960
>I posted some screens from OkCupid and they dox'd the girls based on their face and Boston ma and sent them my archived posts and shit

Pretty sure because they can't get girls even after 2+ years of lifting so they take it out on you.
Kind of ironic when they lift for girls, yet they can't get girls

>>40215960
Muscle =/= strength
Youre so ignorant
And very proud of it

>>40215935
Wheres the calories those look like protein intakes

>>40216004
This isn't really a good argument. You're not refuting anything, and Candito isn't the ambassador of strenth training.

>>40216019
Far right column shows average change over maintenance.

>>40216019

Size=\= strength.

You can gain SIZE cutting. Lean size.

>be jerry
>have tons of lean muscle mass
>think the rules are the same as for a fat guy with zero muscle

The less muscle you have the better th muscle reacts to stimuli and the easier it is to gain jerry. Correct?

My thinking is that if you have legitimately zero muscle in your body, you can gain some cutting. Obviously not as much as bulking.

>on dnp
>upset stomach most of the time, also thirsty as shit but water or flavored water makes me want to vomit. milk/milkshakes/smoothies too much calories

Should I invest in some freshly squeezed cranberry+raspberry juice?

it's 180 calories per liter and filled with yummy vitamins.

I'm only eating 2200-2500 cals anyway @ 180lbs with 500mg dnp and 80mcg clen with tren, so my TDEE should be 4500~ or maybe a tiny bit less so I can afford to drink a liter or so per day (or just cut out a bit of carb/calories elsewhere since this is pure fructose anyway).

>>40216004
candito is not low bf. he is bigger than "random kids in CBT" though, yes

>>40213637
pharma IGF-1

>>40216088
Lol why are you eating 2200-2500 you retard at 185lbs you could cut at 1800-2000 easily.

>>40216093

Ok keep strength training natty and report back when you look at all decent go to fitmisc there are teenage natty kids that have more lean mass because they actually trained for it, while having a lower bf %, while having better proportions and not looking like a disgusting box from strength training

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>>40216109
>Disgusting box from strength training

I'll fuck your skinny twink ass boyo

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>>40216109
you realise all but like 1 or 2 of the big natties on fitmisc do strength training lol

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>>40216137
>>40216124

This objectively looks worse than 18 year old Natty high school kids I see in the gym

They're also all sorts of roids so you probably should compare their physique and aesthetic to people that are roiding with that goal in mind.

Gee who looks better I dunno

>>40216167
>objectively looks worse

You cant be objective about something based entirely on opinion