Do you lift with your gf /fit/? I do, and its great!

I don't have a girlfriend because I have no money/status to offer them.

I live with my mom and lift weights at home.

no, i don't have a girlfriend and i never will

i hate myself too much

also when i meet new people, i try and look for reasons to hate them, rather than reasons to like them

My stupid girlfriend only does cardio because she doesn't want to get "too big"

>>40193091
Good, females shouldn't have muscle definition.

Why would you want a muscular girlfriend, homo?

>>40193015
>I have no money/status to offer them
Sure that's it. Not your severe autism.

>>40192979
No. She hinted a couple of times that she wants to, but I did not go after it. I don't want someone at the gym that constantly hangs around me, wants to talk non-stop, needs to be teached and is an overall distraction. Working out is my off-time. I don't want to talk or think too much about anything than lifting itself. The gf would ruin this.

>>40193015
You need to change your attitude man. Poetry gets women. In fact, one lyric had me slaying pussy like Conan the Barbarian. If you live by it, you will make it:

"Came here with my dick in my hand
Don't make me leave here with my foot in yo ass"

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I dont have a gf.

I did once, it was awful
She told me i did everything wrong because she had read in a magasine how to do it
She then did every exercise incorrectly, sprained her back and never went back to lifting

No women in the gym plz

>>40193091
Ewwww.....Dump her.

>>40193209
>Sure that's it. Not your severe autism.

It is the _only_ reason I don't have a girlfriend. If I simply had decent income, or even any income at all, I could very easily get a girlfriend.

My "autism" or how I act is not a problem, if anything it may be a turn on to some girls. I understand women better than they do.

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>>40193398
>this is what autistic uggos tell themselves

>>40193197
afraid they might look bigger than you mr skelly?

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>>40193398
>I could very easily get a girlfriend.
Oh really?
Just having an income makes you capable of doing the most difficult thing known to man?
topkek

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>>40193429
>getting pussy is the most difficult thing known to man

>>40193398
I work a wageslave job and I have a gf. It's not that hard

>>40193398
>If I simply had decent income, or even any income at all, I could very easily get a girlfriend.
Student without income - have gf. Friends that are students without income - many of them have gfs. You are delusional.

>>40192979
Those fucking fingernails

>>40193475
Being in education is the one exception.

Inside high-school and college money doesn't matter.

>>40193458
That's what I'm saying cunt, any income at all is good enough if you can compensate with looks. Being a NEET means you don't get pussy. There's very few exceptions, most of which require you to still have social status leftover from high-school, like being that 23 year old guy that buys alcohol for teenagers in high-school which he met through his younger sibling.

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>>40193580

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>>40193429
>most difficult thing known to man
>getting a girlfriend

lmao dude kys

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>>40193398
>I understand women better than they do.

>>40193601
Yeah all those tfw no gf, PUA help threads and feels threads are simply bullshit ^^
getting a gf is hard, getting a bf is easy

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>>40192979
STOP LIFTING WITH MY GF!

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>>40193398
>I understand women better than they do.

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>>40193580
>fingernails

>>40193582
Well then get a fucking job lol

>>40192979
bump

Not my gf but I started helping one of my girl friends to lift. It was a mistake, can't push herself, doesn't come most days, "no that looks goofy"
Any other girl who wants to lift with me better already have experience.

>>40193398
I'm a woman and i don't understand women. bitches are bat shit crazy.

>>40193197
natty women cant get muscular enough to lose femininity

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>>40193831
L O N D O N
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>>40192979
tfw went on a date and thought it was going smoothly, she genuinely laughed at my jokes and was a little touchy-feely near the end

tfw she's been ignoring my texts.. Why are women so cruel? Playing with my emotions

>>40193831
>bitches are bat shit crazy.
True story
Every guy who has had a relationship can attest to this, its a wild fucking ride

>>40193867
Did you kiss her anon? Invite her out again before the date ended


If neither then you know why

>>40193635
>'slower kids' classes are proof that basic math is the hardest thing known to man
Sure thing.

>getting a gf is easy, getting a bf is easier
Corrected that for you.

>>40193875
Had a relationship. Can not attest. Women = crazy is a meme and exists simply because mot people are autistic and lack social skills.

>>40193887
Is kissing after the first date really a thing??

It just feels so weird - you barely get to known the person, you talk a little about life and jobs and hobbies and shit and then you suddendly are supposed to kiss?

It's kind of weird man. I just feel like it takes some time to build up a physical relationship to someone you just met.

Like second date or some shit.

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>>40194150
Kiss her you cuck. Literally just a quick one on the lips. You don't have to go full blown makeout session . It lets her know your into her alot

>>40194183
I did with my first dates. It resulted in what you would expect - relationships.
However, they too said that they kind of didn't expect it.

I mean, you are going to tell me that I need to physically escalate dates slowly and build up to it and so on and so forth.

But it just feels weird to do that with someone you don't even know. At first dates I want to get to known the person. I want to see if I like the way they think and act in life, so I talk about whole bunch of shit, what they do in life, this, that, etc.
On the other side, if I want to physically escalate a date, I would have to make stupid jokes all the time, attempt to somehow build it up and lay my focus on that act instead.

I get it - I should just do it. But I wish to understand it too.

>>40194141

>he thinks all women aren't fucking crazy bitches

Rip he wuz 2 yung

Only way to deal with women is to fuck them right in the pussy. Anything else is a waste of fucking time.

>>40194150
>Is kissing after the first date really a thing??
That's your problem right there.

>you barely get to known the person, you talk a little about life and jobs and hobbies and shit and then you suddendly are supposed to kiss?
You don't 'suddenly' kiss. You build sexual tension and interest through conversations and all this 'getting to know' each other. This is all cover-up. The main point of the date and every word you say is to get to that kiss (and more). It's not 'suddenly' at all.
Since you are not aware of this, you were probably just having a conversation like you have with some random stranger. She probably thinks you were not interested or that you're gay or weird.

>>40194314
>>>/r9k/

>>40194225

My man you're thinking about it too much. Just grab her by the pussy. Literally IRL just do it don't be a bitch get your fingers wet. My buddies and I used to walk around and "accidentally" bump into girls and touch their asses in crowded areas and guess what? After apologizing for bumping into them they wouldn't get mad they would fucking smile and start conversations and give us their numbers. Stop being such a bitch boy

>>40193398
>It is the _only_ reason I don't have a girlfriend. If I simply had decent income, or even any income at all, I could very easily get a girlfriend.
You're honestly trying to tell us that multiple women have turned you down because you don't have a job or because you live at home and not because they thought you were an autistic neet?

Face reality kid, it makes everything a lot easier.

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>>40194343
>My man you're thinking about it too much.

>>40194374
>You're honestly trying to tell us that multiple women have turned you down because you don't have a job

Zero women have turned me down, because I don't try.

The odds of finding a woman who would start a long-term relationship with a NEET is one in millions, regardless of how good he looks. Women simply won't start a relationship with a man if he's not offering any money/status, I know this for a fact, so why would I even try dating websites, or otherwise even bother with girls?

Even if I had a wageslave retail job, I could very easily get a girlfriend with that amount of money. I'm not bad looking, I've seen girls mirin me in public places like stores, I'm more muscular than the large majority of /fit/. There's simply no reason to bother though because I don't have any money or social status to offer her, and it doesn't matter what you look like or how you act, once a girl finds that out, she's gone.

>neet

You do know what this stands for right? You just said: "because you don't have a job, or because you don't have a job?"

>>40194327
I am on the guy who got ignored on the first date, lad.

I am aware of what you are supposed to do.
It just doesn't feel naturally to me.

I gues a you are supposed to hook up and then get to know her and then decide if you want to be in a relationship instead of doing it vice versa?

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>>40194556
I don't anymore friendo

>>40194545
You are not 'supposed' to do anything. Do whatever you like. Just be aware that other people can interpret this in a certain way e.g. as disinterest. If a girl is used to a guy being all sexual and kissing on the first date, she'll take your approach differently than you would.

But there are obviously reason why it can be better to hook up first and then see where you're heading. I find it to be better this way and I'd never bother getting to know a girl better without knowing if we connect sexualy.

>>40194529
>I'm more muscular than the large majority of /fit/.
Now this i gotta see
Post pics

I dont care about the "girls mire me" bullshit, that could be legit or your delusion but i want to see how muscular you are

>>40194632
Well I am a quite mental person - when it comes to attraction, even sexually.

I like to have some serious talks and I like exchanging ideas and theories of life.

But yeah, I would probably be well advised to learn how to physically escalate a date.

Like i'd go to the gym with my gf sure. I can't see when that would happen desu but yeah... it would be more like we are going to the same gym at the same time... not lets exercise together lol. Do your thing and i'll meet you POOLSIDE in an hour and a half

>>40194710
I do like to do these things too. But I know very well that I can't talk about these things on a first date. Might aswell use the time and have fun with void but flirty and sexual talk. Then I can hook up and get to know her better without the uncertainty of ending up in the friendzone, sexual connectivity and so on. I like clear conditions and having this obstacle out of the way makes it way more fun and chill to get to know someone. I also find it way easier to get to deeper topics with someone you've already had sex with.

Maybe my approach is not for you, but atleast something to think about.

Never had a girlfriend and haven't been on a date in 8 years. When my friends all talk about their love lives, I just kind of zone out until I pick up on the next topic. I don't hide it, I just don't talk about it because there's nothing I want to say about it.

It's not that I'm incapable. I'm fairly average looks wise, though not very tall. I'm not a total autist and can joke and flirt with people. I'm just numb to love now after my time being split between distanced from love or being hurt by shitty people.

I don't really care anymore, and luckily all the other people around me don't care either.

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I tried it but I didn't like it.

I like to have my headphones blasting but I couldn't do that bc I felt the need to talk to her during the workout.

Having to change the weight is kinda annoying but not a big deal at all

She's T H I C C so staring at her ass and tits while she lifts redirects blood away from my muscles and to my dick, thus decreasing pump.

It was fun this one time though because I was staring at her ass from a distance away because I went to the drinking fountain to refill bottle. Some beta taps her on the shoulder and tells her that some creep (me) is staring at her juicy butt. She looks at me and smiles and I say "nice ass cutie" as if we aren't a couple. Beta gets all flustered and starts to stutter and walks away red faced. Fucking faggot

>>40194799
Yeah, I understand the logic behind the approach.
It's definitely worth a try - if anything dating is gaining life experience anyway.
I don't expect to meet my life partner any time soon.

So where do you usually go for first dates?
My first date ever was I in a pool. Made it very easy to get touchy. Fucked that girl first date too.
But she was chubby, so I guess that was easy.

Second date was drinking a coffee. Literally no idea how to go about it there.
If anything you could touch her hand and knee and some shit, but then what?

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>>40194343
>My buddies and I used to walk around and "accidentally" bump into girls and touch their asses in crowded areas and guess what? After apologizing for bumping into them they wouldn't get mad they would fucking smile and start conversations and give us their numbers.

what

>>40194343
https://youtu.be/UEIDK3lEmB4

>>40194824
>I'm just numb to love now after my time being split between distanced from love or being hurt by shitty people
Jesus Christ man, you sounds like a 15year old girl that is 'hurt' because her first 'boyfriend' talked to some other chick in class. Get over yourself and more importantly GET YOUR DICK WET. This is the one and only cure to autistic boohoo mindsets like yours.

>>40194895
I don't like public locations for dates all that much. Just gets a different vibe and the environment kinda restricts the conversation and interaction to being more distanced. But if you have to, either search for a reason to go to your place or already plan your next date in a more private setting. E.g. what my friend did today: First they walked a bit outside, along the riverside through town, then went to drink some coffee. Didn't take her home this time, but they planed their next meeting at his place 'because it's not cold there'. Just think of anything.

Also, don't just be sexual through physical interaction. More importantly: Be sexual in what and in the way you speak. If you don't, you'll just seem like a creep.

I've never had a gf before.

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>>40195252
Get one then fag

>>40195133
>Also, don't just be sexual through physical interaction. More importantly: Be sexual in what and in the way you speak. If you don't, you'll just seem like a creep.
what did he mean by this

>>40193582

Well I wouldn't want a girlfriend who does have a job or do anything with her life, why should it not apply to you?

>>40195341
>Well I wouldn't want a girlfriend who does have a job or do anything with her life

It's the exact opposite of how you say it is, the more money a woman makes, the LESS value she has in the sexual marketplace.

You want a woman who works? Well me and many other men either don't care, or specifically want a woman who doesn't work, we want her to stay home and take care of the children/house.

That's just how human nature and society works, women don't have to work, they're valued by default, men compete for them and they choose which man wins access to their pussy.

Men have to prove themselves worthy, which in today's society means making money, or else they get no pussy.

>>40195472

You just sound like a cuck scared of the fact that your even more useless than some women

>>40195133
>Jesus Christ man, you sounds like a 15year old girl that is 'hurt' because her first 'boyfriend' talked to some other chick in class
No. There was a girl who was my friend for almost 10 years, and we had on again off again feelings for each other, but we were really close all that time and got to a point where I thought I was truly in love with her. Then I attempted suicide and she stopped speaking with me at a moment when I needed someone to be close with, even in a non-romantic sense. I was trying to re-assemble my broken life and one of the few people I felt I could rely on and be totally honest with just left. That's the kind of hurt I felt.

>GET YOUR DICK WET
Tried that. Got laid a few times, but it didn't help.

>>40195526
You literally attempted suicide. How could a girl that age possibly be mature enough to be able to deal with that?

Sure it would have been a good move from her to stick around.
But it's not fucking easy to deal with it and you can't blame her for not being able to do so.

You should have talked to her before actually attempting something - maybe that would have prevented it too.

You need professional help and you know it. You need a really good psychiatrist and you should pay whatever money it takes to talk to someone genuinely skilled.

>>40195757
I understand WHY she didn't stick around and I don't blame her for it. But that doesn't mean I can't be hurt from it.

>You need professional help and you know it
Needed. The attempt came about because I developed a dependence on painkillers at the time which fucked up my mood and was put on lexapro to counteract that. I have neither of those now and am taking care of shit on my own. It's just that one of the outcomes to that self work is turning numb to romance as I said before.

>>40195324
>what did he mean by being flirty?
Is that your question?

>>40195472
There's so much coping, insecurity and pseudo scientific bullshit in this post that I will not even try calling you out on it and instead call you what you truly are: The most beta cuck I've seen in a long time.

>>40195867
Well, it's you that has to decide what he has to do in life.
If you really don't mind being alone and never making the experience of a romantic relationship then sure, why not.

You can enjoy your life without a relationship just as well.
Just make sure it's not something that makes you unhappy.

>>40195472
>>>/r9k/

>>40195896
>Is that your question?

Probably.

Give us an example of a conversation-change or whatever that "allowed" you to get touchy / physical.

>>40193639
underrated

>>40195912
>If you really don't mind being alone and never making the experience of a romantic relationship
I'm not gonna lie, there are many times where I enjoy the idea of being with someone and having deep connections and all that. But the longer I go, the farther between days that idea comes up. When it does return, however, I remind myself of the reasons why I shouldn't have that and force myself to move on and control it.

>>40195967
>>40195896
>>40195516
How am I the beta? It takes a man to understand human sexuality and how it has adapted to modern western civilization.

You're a beta male if you would rather live in a fantasy and deny it. Women are supposed to be the idiots who believe in stuff like zodiac signs and finding "the one".

I don't. My gf knows my lifting time is my personal therapy time and that I hate working out with other people. Plus she goes to a Curves and I'm not about that life.

>>40196070
>It takes a man to understand human sexuality and how it has adapted to modern western civilization.
Yes and you absolutely do not understand it.

>You're a beta male if you would rather live in a fantasy and deny it.
That's why you are a beta male, because you live in your delusional fantasy world that you've created to cope with your insecurity in real life.

>Women are supposed to be the idiots who believe in stuff like zodiac signs and finding "the one".
Where did this even come from?

You are insecure beyond repair and understand nothing of society or how social life nowadays work. Stop talking about subjects you don't know anything about and work on curing your autism. Maybe leave the house once in a while and talk to an actual female too.

>>40192979
Those fingernails are disgusting. Fucking white Protestant whore.

>>40196149
Roastie detected.

Also none of these are arguments against anything I've said, you're just avoiding what I said and hurling insults at me (ad hominem).

>>40192979
Been working out with my girlfriend everyday for the last 2 years. Once you're in an actual long term relationship/live together and you both lift, there is zero point in doing it separately

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>>40196247

Your actually such a cuck that women accomplish more than you but you try to cope with pseudo intellectual bs

>>40196251
Do you live with your gf?

>>40196247
How much money do you make/are you going to make in the future? It would want to be a fucking lot if you think you're gonna be able to buy a house/support an entire family in today's world, on only one salary.

>>40196285
yeah

>>40193398
>I understand women better than they do.
>"im not autistic guys i swear"
this is so bad that it almost has to be bait

>>40196297
Random question:
Does your gf text a lot / meet up a lot with other guys?

>>40196286
It's almost like birth rates for whites and Japanese are plummeting for a reason. They've reached a stage in capitalism and human development where humans shouldn't have gone.

Just 60 years ago in the US a man with nothing more than high-school education could have easily gotten a job, and been able to afford a wife/children/house with just his pay alone. It not my fault it's not like that anymore.

There's a reason I'm a NEET, with the current economic state of my country, and the current state of women ruined by feminism, why would I be anything else?

>>40196347
I'm not that guy but not really. She'll go hang out with people but she doesn't text alot of guys. and anyone guy that's hit on her, she promptly shows me.

>>40196368
and I don't mean shows me in a "lol cuck" way but a "you need to go murder of him" way

>>40196247
>Roastie detected.
Ad hominem

Because you've said nothing. I don't need to bring arguments against your baseless claims. Maybe bring some proof to support your claims first, then I'll happily disprove them.
But we both know you will not, because you delusional cucklords can never bring any arguments for your mental gymnastics.

Go ahead and follow your robot route. Not even 10 years and you'll be one of those alcoholics at the local pub that constantly complains about his stupid, void stay-at-home exwife that left with the kids the moment she found a better beta provider.

>>40196364
>There's a reason I'm a NEET, with the current economic state of my country, and the current state of women ruined by feminism, why would I be anything else?
Lmao. Sure it's m-muh feminisms fault that you are an autistic loser. You are like those delusional unemployed art majors that constantly complain how it's patriarchys fault that they're losers.

>>40196364

Keep justifying being a cuck

Trump should gas you guys first

>>40196368
I wonder because another of my relationships just ended because i don't like when my partner chats a lot of with other guys.

I don't mind them going for drinks with friends and shit like that.
But when they eventually spend their day texting on their phone with 6-7 different dudes every 5 minutes and shit like that, it eventually bothers me.

Also it just feels weird when you see your partner 2-3 days out of the week and when you hit the gym and want her to come along she says she want's to meet up with some dude instead.

People call it jealousy, people attribute it to low self-esteem, but to this day i am not too sure about it all.

>>40196364
>economic state of country makes it impossible for an average man to provide for a family alone
>so women start working more to make familys possible despite the economic state
>somehow women are ruined and at fault
???

>>40196424

That's not really normal, especially if she's chatting with them that much

Like I have female friends that I talk to a fair bit but I definitely don't text them every 5 minutes expect for once a week or so if we're actually talking about something

How old are you?

>>40196347
Not really. She goes to uni and meets up with guys/girls in her course at the uni to study, outside that, the only guys she talks to are my mates.

I wouldn't be with her if she was doing that.

>>40196364
You didn't answer my question, I don't care what it used to be, or if it was better (it was) reality is, in today's world, the world in which you live, you will need a very good job or a working wife to live comfortable anywhere decent.

You can't argue for living one type of lifestyle and when questioned on it, just say "well it used to work this way". That makes no sense.

>>40196012

It's cause these "dumb" women are somehow able to displace and drive down the wages of "smart" men like this NEET cuck

>>40196424
I understand man. The best solution to that type of thing is to talk to your girl. You have to respect that she is still going to talk to other people, guys included. But talk to her and say "hey, we need to spend more time togther and I don't feel comfortable with you talking to so many guys." I mean have some confidence and trust but at the same time be willing to communicate your issues

>>40196461
I am 22. She was 19.

This topic that I talked about is probably the biggest question I have in life right now.
I am trying hard to evaluate the way i feel about it and trying to answer the question whether or not it's OK to feel that way.

I have had two long term relationships now and they both went kind of the same way.
First year all was good, weekends were spent together and the interest of seeing each other was always mutually high.

But then this drift off happens. They meet and add more guys to their phone, they chat to more of them, they have less general interest of spending time, and so on.

I was doing fine with my last gf. I adapted to the idea of other guys playing a role in their life, and it was OK.
But a phase began, where she only had one, maybe two days out of the week free to see me and she began planning those days for partying with others.
Resulting in us seeing each other 1 in 14 days,
1 in 7 if things went well and there was nothing up for her.

That was the first time in that relationship where i had to express my disapproval. I told her it's understandable to me that she wants to hang out with friends and party, but that there has to be a way of seeing each other more often in the future, otherwise the relationship cannot go on for me.
Things went downhill from there though.

>>40196424
Dude I have extremely good female friends, friends i'll have for life, I literally never text them, I see them at catch ups/parties and sometimes have quick conversations on public social media and that's it, my gf would be uncomfortable if I was messaging them about nothing day in day out, that's weird and obviously there's a flirty side to it.

Seems like you're probably young for that kind of thing to be going on. You're 100% in the right to be annoyed and end the relationship, just look forward to down the line in proper relationships where this kind of thing doesn't really happen.

>>40196446
Actually women entering the workforce is a large reason that wages are so low. They basically doubled the workforce, lowering the value of labor. Of course that goes along with immigration, automation, and outsourcing of jobs.

A dual-income household might be a necessity for most of the younger generation now, but it doesn't mean everyone likes it, particularly men.

>>40196467
>you will need a very good job

Yes you will, and this hard to get, they're mostly given out based on nepotism, and there's not nearly enough to go around for all the men who need one. It is largely why I'm a NEET.

I'd rather just be a NEET than try to compete in this rat-race, in a society that largely goes against my ideals and advocates for the destruction of my people (the white race) and traditional morality/ideals that keeps civilization working.

>>40196467
To give you a comparison: My ex would have added probably all of those guys she met in uni and connected with to her phone, probably first week in.

I never understood it because i don't do it with girls, not even guys.
Sure, i talk to them, maybe even laugh and do some jokes here and there, but when uni / whatever is over the contact ends and that's it for the rest of the day.

>>40196570
Honeymoon phase is over at that point, you get bored and when you're young you have less fucks to give about working towards keeping it fresh/working. 22 is a big difference to 19 imo. These problems will get less/go away completely in a few years

>>40196514
>>40196573
I did talk to her, but it got her into super-defense mode, I believe.
She didn't understand the concern at all, she called me out on being jealous, said she is disappointed at that and also says she feels offended because I don't "trust" her.

Man, i let that woman sleep over drunk at drunk guys places and didn't even say a word.
I wholeheartedly believe that she never cheated on me, but it's weird of her to say that i don't trust her when i allow things like that.

>>40196583
So what you're saying is, you can't get a very good job to support a future wife and family in this imaginary future of yours, so you've given up completely and become a NEET, where you will fail to help the white race continue or contribute to society at all.

You're pathetic dude. You need to work within the confines of the environment you're in. If you actually cared about continuing tradition and morality you wouldn't be a NEET, stop making excuses for yourself.

>>40196424
>People call it jealousy, people attribute it to low self-esteem

What people? Women and beta white knights

>>40196608
I hope you are right, yeah.

I was never like that. I never lost interest in a partner because he became boring or whatsoever.
In fact, as time goes on, I connect more and more emotionally to my partner.

But knowing that other people are that way always made some kind of cautious about signs of such process, you know?

>>40196570

It's fine man you seem completely reasonable in your expectations, it's just that these are dumb 19 year olds who get bored but yes it does suck

Seems like they were looking to move on and try some thing else (and it's not your fault). Better that you end it early than drag on a relationship that doesn't work my man

>>40196644
I wrote about it on a psychology forum once. I believe mostly women in their 40s were posting there.

They talked about how their partner was a nice addition to their life, but not more.
They talked about how they often do trips with male friends over the weekends, where they go hiking and camping together, etc. etc.

Maybe such a thing is possible for me too. But i feel like there is a difference if you are doing that in a 1-2 year existing relationship or in a 8+year one, you know?

>>40196629
She was cucking you, hands down. The fact that she put herself in the role of a victim should be enough evidence.

>>40196643
>So what you're saying is, you can't get a very good job to support a future wife and family in this imaginary future of yours, so you've given up completely and become a NEET, where you will fail to help the white race continue or contribute to society at all.

Yes pretty much. Even if I do succeed it won't stop the actual problem, which I think being a NEET helps to combat. If enough men withdrawal from society, it could create a climate for serious change.

>>40196583
>They basically doubled the workforce, lowering the value of labor.
Nonsense. That would be true in some fictional scenario where they'd enter the market in an extremely short amount of time with the same qualifications as their male pendants. In this scenario there would be no additional jobs so women and men would now compete for the same amount of jobs that were previously only filled up with men.
This, ofcourse, did not happen. It's not like we have just enough jobs to provide a workplace for every man and men somehow have to share them with women now. We have way way way more jobs than all men could fill. There's room for women working and there is a need for their workforce, therefore they do not lower the value of labor or atleast not to the extend you say.

>but it doesn't mean everyone likes it
What anyone likes is completely irrelevant if it's a necessity. If you can't or won't adapt to the world you are living in, you are being delusional.

>>40196675
I am actually really glad to hear that other people feel the same way and that I am not totally off here.

I was just wondering all the time if there still are females out there that do not behave this way.
Looking at my younger sister, it seems kind of normal for the current generation to have an excessive social circle and to do nothing but socializing all day.

But yeah, I will have to see for myself. There is no other way

>>40196698
Lmao sure thing pal. If only enough men started being losers sitting at home all day complaining about m-muh womin on a closet-homosexual muscle fetish forum, a serious climate for change would be created. You literally are like those unemployed art majors whining on tumblr. Exept you are posting on 4chins. Both of you are pathetic and will never accomplish anything though.

>>40196698
No it won't.

You wanting to help the white race is nothing but empty platitudes. A real man would suck it up, get educated, depending on his income level get a working wife or a stay at home wife, then have a bunch of kids and raise them in the best possible life you can while passing on traditional values/morals. Instead you'll cry about it on the internet and then die, don't talk about wanting something then be too much of a faggot to do it.

>>40196688
I know, it's hard to believe that she wasn't doing something over there from the way it sounds over text.
I cannot share my knowledge and experience about the person with you - but i assure you that i really have a very good level of empathy skills and all i can tell you is that i seriously believe that nothing every happened.

She was a shy type of girl, rather chubby, sex to her was always really emotional and it took at least 6-10 dates before we had sex.

I like girls like her, actually, they are a little different from other girls their age group.
However, probably for the wrong reasons. You boost their go up and everything and the whole situation turns.

This is really such an extensive topic man. So many thoughts that i have about the whole thing. It's crazy.

girls don't belong in the gym.

They belong in yoga class gaining flexibility.

>>40196746
You boost their ego up**

>>40196750
Enjoy your spooky skelly gf you low test homo.

>>40192979
>Implying that most of fit wouldn't rather have a bf

>>40196705

Yes there's definitely girls like that out there

Younger girls do socialize a lot, but at the same time it's not talking to more dudes than girls

Just date a lot and don't rush into a relationship with a party girl you are nothing like

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>>40196700
>If you can't or won't adapt to the world you are living in, you are being delusional.

Delusional doesn't make sense here, you could have said "lazy" for example. Don't use words if you don't know what they mean.

> We have way way way more jobs than all men could fill.

Are you from the western world? Because right now it's very hard to get a job, people are getting turned down for the lowest of jobs like retail or fast-food, there is competition to work at McDonalds or Walmart.

There isn't enough jobs for the amount of people who need them, you really haven't heard people complaining about this? Why do you think Trump won the rust belt states?

Does flooding your country with immigrants decrease wages? Surely you wouldn't argue that, this is simple. The more workers there are, the lower the value of labor is. Almost doubling the workforce by adding women certainly lowered wages.

>>40196735
She could cheat on me and face no punishment, because we don't have laws enforced against adultery anymore. In older times women were killed for adultery. Then in the divorce she could take m children, my house, and half of my money.

No thanks, I'll just be a NEET until I fight in the upcoming race war.

>>40196746
>I like girls like her, actually, they are a little different from other girls their age group.
You are putting her on a pedestal, deluding yourself, it's a mental image. You think she is"special" but she was flirting (let's face it) with multiple guys. AWALT, always remember that and don't getting to carried over with feelings, never allow a woman to be above you in a relationship.

>>40195472
We don't like cucks like you here. In fact, nobody likes a guy that just leaches off of society and then bemoans his circumstances. Either man up or get out of here.

>>40196746

You have to boost them up but you can't let them get complacent. Make sure your always the one in control and keep reminding them that you are the prize, not them.

>>40192979
no.
we sometimes go to the gym together, but we each do our own thing once we're there

>>40193582
NEET's don't get pussy because they don't deserve it. They are a drain on society, desu.

>>40196070
You're a beta because you are a shitty, useless NEET with a mindset that will keep you there forever. A lot of people on /fit/ are going to make it one day. You will never be one of those people

>>40196887
I'm more muscular than the large majority of /fit/.

>>40196896
Quit being a fucking pussy. Make the neccessary sacrifices rather than taking the easy route of the NEET life. Don't expect a good paying job if you aren't going to learn a useful skill from trade school or university.

>>40196413
NEET's like this guy are the male version of those over-the-top tumblr feminists that they bitch about on r9k. They're just too absorbed in their own ego and self-pity to see it.

>>40196839
Kek grow up mate.

>>40196424
That was probably a good call. Going out with and texting other guys that often is definitely a red flag.

>>40196814
>>40196840
>>40196859
>>40196931
Well, thanks a lot for the chat lads.
It's always good hearing the experience of others, especially if they match.

Best of luck to you all.

>>40196839
Delusional makes a lot of sense, because you choose to live in your fantasy world where everything is like you want it to instead of adapting to the real world.

>Because right now it's very hard to get a job, people are getting turned down for the lowest of jobs like retail or fast-food, there is competition to work at McDonalds or Walmart.
If theres 10 males and 10 females and there's 15 jobs, there is a bigger need for workforce then men can provide, yet it won't be easy for everyone to get a job. This isn't such a hard concept to get.

>There isn't enough jobs for the amount of people who need them, you really haven't heard people complaining about this?
And that's related to women how?

>Does flooding your country with immigrants decrease wages?
Not necessarily. These immigrants also consume and therefore they also create new jobs. It gets problematic when there are millions of immigrants without education within a very short timespan.

>The more workers there are, the lower the value of labor is.
No. If the amount of workers increases by 2 and the amount of jobs increases by 2.5, value of labor RISES. Your statement is only true when the number of jobs does not increase. Women didn't enter the market and we suddenly had the same amout of jobs for double the amout of workers. Women entered the market, because there was a need. And they also created millions of jobs by entering the market. Stop ignoring facts and basic economy.

>m-muh adultery
Basically you are so insecure and so little of a man that you need laws to stop a woman for getting someone better than you? C U C K.

>m-muh race war
My sides man. There surely will be an ENORMOUS demand for uneducated neet losers in a war. Have fun getting gutted day 1 you god damn cuck.

>>40196698
>I'm a NEET, hear me roar

I see a lot of don'ts when being a man in a relationship. Don't be a cuck, don't be cringey, don't try to be a pick-up artist, don't try to be a red piller. While I agree with these, how SHOULD you be, then? Is there any guide for this that's not TRP or PUA or whatever?

>>40197048

Well they give that advice typically because it's so one who is one extreme or the other complaint on 4chan.

It just boils down to be being firm, knowing your place in the relationship and not being taken advantage of or catering to her every whim while still being kind and treating well and doing the little romantic things she likes sometimes.

Think of how you treat a dog. If you treat them too well they become lazy dick heads who bark and whine. If you treat them to badly they'll try and run away and generally ignore you. You find a balance by doing it. Don't expect first few relationships to be flawless

>>40197033
>If theres 10 males and 10 females and there's 15 jobs, there is a bigger need for workforce then men can provide

There's 30 females, 30 males, and 10 jobs.

>And that's related to women how?

Because women almost doubled the workforce.

> These immigrants also consume and therefore they also create new jobs.

Are you actually stupid enough to believe this? Immigrants coming here and shopping at our stores doesn't create any jobs.

> If the amount of workers increases by 2 and the amount of jobs increases by 2.5

Except that's not what happened.

>Women entered the market, because there was a need. And they also created millions of jobs by entering the market.

There was no need, and no they didn't create "millions of jobs". The only job I can think they created is male strippers.

>Basically you are so insecure and so little of a man that you need laws to stop a woman for getting someone better than you?

Every successful civilization had harsh laws against adultery. Are all the men of ancient Rome emasculated to you?

>There surely will be an ENORMOUS demand for uneducated neet losers in a war.

There is more than enough room for any white man who wants to secure a land for his people.

>>40197111

Your misplacing your blame on women and minorities when the truth is machines and the US losing it's place as the only power not destroyed buy war is closer to the truth

>>40197127
>Your misplacing your blame on women and minorities

The blame is on the men who let women run wild with feminism, and allowed immigrants to flood our countries.

Women are only allowed as much power as men give them. Ultimately it is the fault of men, just like a child misbehaving is the fault of the parent.

>>40197143

No.

The problem is independent of women but you just want to blame them for some unknown reason

>>40193053
Sounds like you know all your problems. Change them.

>>40197111
>There's 30 females, 30 males, and 10 jobs.
Objectively wrong. There's about 200mio people, so about 100mio men, capable of working and about 150mio jobs. Stop talking out of your ass.

>Consume doesn't create any jobs
Ok buddy, you obviously have no clue about economy. Maybe read a book about it or visit a course, but stop showing us how uninformed and retarded you are. What do you think creates jobs, if it's not consume? Don't even answer - this is a rethorical question. If there's less consume, there's less jobs and vice versa.

>Except that's not what happened.
Irrelevant. It shows that your statement is wrong. More workers don't generally lower labor value. Vist a fucking economy class.

>There was no need, and no they didn't create "millions of jobs".
There was a need, otherwise they wouldn't have started working. If there was no eed, they wouldn't have gotten jobs. And yes, they did create millions of jobs, by being x times more capable of consuming. Stop denying facts and basic economy.

>Every successful civilization had harsh laws against adultery.
Ours hasn't and it's the most successful civilization ever. What does it even matter for us today what ancient civilizations did?

>Are all the men of ancient Rome emasculated to you?
The men of ancient Rome did fuck little boys. Is that somehow relevant?

>There is more than enough room for any white man who wants to secure a land for his people.
So this is what the canonfodder is told.

Why do I even bother coming onto this board that is full of complete alpha males? I can't even have a regular conversation about issues that normal 4chan people usually had because off topic discussion isn't allowed anywhere but this board

And everyone on /fit/ is a teenager or early 20s who are all tall, ripped, have had sex with dozens of girls, always have a girlfriend, and have tons of friends. It's unbelievable how alpha this board is. Don't even fit in here.

Pay for her to get rhinoplasty dude. That nose is fucking ridiculous.

>>40197305

Cause we're making it

Ita better to be surrounded by people like that than losers senpai

>>40197335
nah, you people always had it obviously

>>40197348

I was a virginity until 21 and had my friend group ditch me in 9th grade and I pretty much avoided contact with people all through highschool. Went out to lunch alone everyday so I could escape from school and not deal with anyone.

Devoting myself to studies, reading and slowly starting to dare and build friendships saved me

>>40192979
>lifting with gf
Confirmed: not going to make it.
>slowing down for her
>having to lower the bar for her every set
>can't got too heavy she gets tired unracking all that weight
>constant complaining
>cuts workouts short because she is tired after your warm up
>distraction because she wants to talk about useless shit

>>40197428
Your missing these
>getting a fit gf
>ramming your newly fit gfs head through your baseboard after every workout in some crazy, hot sex


It's pretty good man

>>40192979
It's too late, Bellsprout has already entered your eye.

>>40197472
Kek if she ever gets through the initial phase of "oh so new so cool to be lifting"

I have had gfs want to get swole and give up after finding out "hiw hard it is"

Congradulations on find one that sticks with it.

>>40196424
never get a girl who "hates other girls" and gets along with guys much easier

>>40197534
but its understandable to hate other girls because they are all insufferable psychos

but that includes this girl as well

>>40197527
My dick game is strong, and I leave my gf nearly catonic most times I fuck her. So the sex as a reward is probably a good motivation for her

>>40194343
Muslim daydream detected.

>>40197568
mmm yeah ill bet you do, stud

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>>40192979
I would not could not get a grill.
With me females hate to chill.
I would not could not with swoll legs.
Not even the bottom most dreggs.
Grills so not seem to like me.
They'd just rather let me be.
They don't take notice OP you fag.
The thought of me just makes them gag.
I'll probably never find a wife
I should just end my fucking
Rhymes

>>40197742
Thanks for the pasta

>>40198011
just wrote it, i regret 4th line a bit.
Once did the same thing but pretty much most limit (super wasted) in a dead thread and forgot to save it.
Rhyme really lets me get my feels into words, but I hate poetry.

>>40197742
Learn another rhyme scheme you cuck.

Also, "grill" and "chill" do not fucking rhyme, I can barely even speak english and even I know that.
>>40198061
>I hate poetry.
maximum pleb Tbh, poetry is only second to music in purity

>>40198640
not rap guy, but how do "grill" and "chill" not rhyme?

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>>40198640
They do rhyme.
Poetry without rhyme is just normal talking but with more pretentiousness.
I'm not taking rhyming advice from an ESL.

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I need a woman in my life

>>40193398
I have no income at all, my girlfriend is better off than me. You are just a repulsive spastic.

>>40199864
"We are a generation raised by women, I'm thinking a woman is the last thing we need."

Of course I lift with my hands, OP. How else will I lift?

I took my ex to a gym once, regret it since I wasn't the biggest guy there, and nowhere near that.

>>40199937
Speak for yourself, I have a loving, healthy relationship with my father and had numerous adult male role models through my childhood

>>40192979
But this is a picture of Jake Gyllenhaal

I lifted with an ex for 2 months. It was nice for while it lasted. He broke it off with me when one of his high school sweethearts claimed she wanted to mend things and get serious.

>she had a kid with some other guy
>he goes back to her and gets married while playing father to another dude's kid
>he wants to remain friends, I'm not interested
>blocked me
>months without contact and he texts me out of nowhere, I act completely oblivious to his advances
>blocks me again when I don't react the way he expected
>last I saw of him he put on a lot of weight

Dodged a cuck and he lacked dedication, but honestly getting sick of being alone at this point.

Yes, me and my Girlfriend try to go a couple times a week. I'm still a fatty, but am counting calories at a 1,000 cal deficit and trying to meal plan.

She's very skinny, but on the DYEL side, although she's starting to get respectable gains.

Neither of us is very confident in our form, so we usually do machines and dumbbell exercises, besides cardio warmup and bodyweight ab/core exercises. I'm trying to ease into Squatz and other Barbell exercises.

We were going for something like 6 months and stopped when she started a Dental Hygiene program and I was working two jobs (30 days without a day off).We're starting up as NYRers, more or less.

It's nice because this new gym has a lot of QT3.14s and my girlfriend is Bi, so we get to booty-watch while we're there.

>>40196364

>There's a reason I'm a NEET

That'd be the No
Education
Employment or
Training, right?

I'll go ahead and live your lie and say "Sure, there is no job for somebody with only a high school degree" This is incorrect, but I'll go ahead and allow it.

So that's NE.

What about the other E, or the T?

If it's impossible for you to live well because m-muh society, why are you not attempting to train yourself in a skilled trade (1-2 years of school to be making 25+ dollars an hour), or going to higher education?

Are the big bad women preventing that too?

Inb4 "Yes, look at these statistics about affirmative action."

>>40193015
Do you lift with your mom?

My mom recently got into exercising but I'm not there to help her. Then again I have no idea how to train someone that's over 60. She mostly does body weight squats, push-ups, (weighted) curls etc in the hundreds (in series of 20).

>>40200879
Cuck

>>40201240

It's not cucking if we're both on either ends of the same girl, anonymous.

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>>40192979
I hope that ain't you girl, boi, she busted af

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>>40200277
t o r o n t o

My gf and I go to the gym together but lift separately. We've both been lifting for many years and have decided that lifting with each other is a distraction. Also we don't wanna do each others routines. Im a powerlifter

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>>40193398
>I understand women better than they do

>>40193015
>>40193398

This is 100% spot on and true.

Why is everyone telling him he is wrong?

Not having any social status or job and living with your parents is the one way to stay GFless your entire life.

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>>40193398

>My "autism"... is not a problem

>If anything it may be a turn on to some girls

>>40193398
>I understand women better than they do.
Whats even more depressing is that this anon is not the only guy around here that thinks this way

Tried it a couple times. It's pretty terrible. Sometimes I'll carpool with a girl to the girl but that's it. Gymbros>Solo>Halfassing some push-ups before bed>Lifting with a girl

>>40192979
I have been and it's a mistake, demotivational, using all my gear when I want to train.

>>40193655
WHAT A FREAK

tfw:

-attractive
-normie fit (not /fit/ standards)
-good personality
-can make anyone laugh
-girls come up to me to flirt all the time, even ask me to hang out sometimes

-i have social anxiety so i agree to hangout then never answer their messages or give excuses

feels bad man :)

>>40193831
it's funny because you are too

>im a woman but im better than the rest i swear

that insecurity even when anonymous lul

>>40193398
>everyone that has a girlfriend has an income
off yourself

>>40192979
I don't have a gf, but I lift with my fz, good enough I guess
it was actually her who convinced me to start going to the gym

>>40193197
>Wanting a small and weak mother to pass on her X chromosome to your sons

>Not procreating with an amazonian warrior caste of women

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>>40205829
Holy shit it's like I posted this.

Feels fuckin bad man

>>40194529
Hey man be confident in yourself, you just gotta find the right girl. Don't let having no money keep you from reaching your qt gf. I thought the same way but there are genuine girls out there who would much rather have your company and adoration than materialistic things, stuff like walks in the park or shit that's free, as long as y'all are together. You say you're fight an I'll give you te benefit of the doubt, just get out there and find a wholesome lady who'll like you for you, not your wallet

>>40205829
You got to get over that man. I fit the profile you just decribed but I got over it through trying hard putting myself out there

>>40200277
W I N N I P E G

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I have had several gfs. I am currently single. I do not know how I got those girlfriends or what they saw in me. At some point I either forgot how to flirt or I am no longer motivated to do it. Its confusing.

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>>40193398
>If I simply had

>>40205829
I sort of know this feel

>>40192979
My gf is a better oly lifter than I am. Not that she outlifts me in absolutes, but she trains more often and is closer to qualification for the nationals. Proud.

>>40197305
This. What the fuck ? On the other hand I know what I must do: git gud. It can't be that hard if all the people here do it.

>>40193398
you don't understand how many jobless stoner losers have gfs dude

>gf lifts
>Eats like shit
>Hardly progresses
>Has a "do whatever exercise I feel like that day" mentality
I don't know how she's still motivated to lift

>>40195133
>Be sexual in what and in the way you speak

How the fuck do you talk sexually on a date? I feel this is the last piece of the puzzle i need to solve before i start dating. I just cannot think of any possible thing i can say as an inexperienced 21yo virgin that isn't gonna sound incongruent as fuck. I know how to lower my voice and use the right inflections to sound sexy but what words do i say?

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>have gf
>says she's gonna start lifting/exercising in general
>haven't been lifting in over a year
>finally decide to get off my ass and lift again
>have good job now, feel great about lifting again
>gf starts to become a whiny jealous cunt because I have a female friend I met at work

Guess I can't win

>>40202981
True, I dated a guy who was 26 and lived with his parents with a bar job. Massive nerd.
I wasn't with him long before I no longer wanted to be with him.