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prev: >>40125528

bimbo will make fraud great again edition
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Before asking first time beginners' advice, read through the steroid reddit's wiki and post the following:

Age
Body fat %
Time spent lifting

MAGA
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First for glands

>sit next to cute as fuck grill
>can't help myself, flirt back and forth through the retarded ass class
>class ends
>still just wanna wait until my face is better
>walk away

>>lel

>do the same shit 10 mins later in other class with other grill
>walk away again
>>>lel

The good news is I can probably shave at this point and get away with it, and it's actively going away for sure, and grills are somehow receptive to my stupid shit even though I have the glands a little bit still

Bad news is IT'S STILL FUCKING HERE FUCK I DON'T WANT TO WAIT ANYMORE
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>>40136130
end yourself
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>>40136130
It's pretty cool you pinpointed the issue yourself. Good work researching. I hope your parents see you can be smart when you're focused.

Put that focus into being a better, less self absorbed person.
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>>40136130
But jesus christ when I take a razor to this retarded beard and reveal my polish italian jewish hybrid face when these glands are gone I am gonna fucking orgasm to death

>>40136152
>friday 5PM
>mother:" u only want that pilocarpine shit because you lack the intelligence to read properly"
>2 hours after that she texts me that she prescribed it for me
>yesterday now saying it was a brilliant find
>>40136136
I will end myself whether I like it or not when the glands are gone and I look in the mirror and orgasm to death

U mad
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>>40136152
>Put that focus into being a better, less self absorbed person.
The only focus I am gonna give a shit about is fucking the shit out of everything I possibly can
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>>40136187
You poor thing it took your mom TWO WHOLE HOURS to get your meme medicine?

Poor guy no wonder you hate being at home
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>>40136260
Don't rub it in, his life is hard enough jerry :(
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>>40136260
Hey Jerry how come glands mom lets him have six swollen glands and I only get zero
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>>40136260
I am gonna explain this since you have severe crippling autism

Taking time to read about it would obviously be fine. Say u wanna read about it. Screaming in ny face and saying I lack intelligence for wanting it, im selfish for wanting it, I should stop worrying about the glands, then 5 seconds later prescribing it and calling it a brilliant find, good job, wow, etc.. Is fucking retarded

>>40136291
Why does jerrys mom let him have 6 loli anime pillows and terminal obesity it's not fair
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Running babbys first cycle. I am doing 3x10 for most of my lifts but I still want to do OHP heavy. Should I do 3x5,4x5, or 5x5
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>>40136306
>terminal obesity
We call it death fat on tumblr ty
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>>40135379
>Hopped on at age 26ish, am turning 30 in two months.
Inspiring. At 25, it's good to know that I haven't missed the boat on changing my life's trajectory. As much as it makes me happy to see young people in their early 20s self-diagnose and get on a better path, I do feel low key jelly because I was just not conscious about physical health on this level at that age (because being a pompous shithead at that age thought it was vain or some other stupid bullshit).

>sitting at the pc for both work and leisure all damn day
Tell me about it. Will look into what you mentioned about hip tilt. I think the rest is relatively fine with me - just short then lol.

What made you exit your cocoon mode? Or make it less cocoon-y? Was it natural or did you make a concerted effort? Do you talk to women?

I find it hard to get excited about a long term steady state that doesn't involve me living in a modest 300-400 sq. foot cabin with about 10 or so of my "essential" philosophy texts, adjustable dumbbells, enough money to go into town to buy good quality protons, and TRT. Libido is getting in the way of this dream atm but I'm seriously considering walking the jerry path of light and waifu love until I can arrive at a healthy balance that doesn't require me to nuke my sex drive to focus on what I want to achieve.
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>>40136318
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>>40136329
>I was just not conscious about physical health on this level at that age
you cannot begin to even imagine how little of a fuck I gave about all this previously. I still loathe myself for even waiting so long.

>Will look into what you mentioned about hip tilt
Unironically lurk /bwg/ and ask about correcting such.

>What made you exit your cocoon mode? Or make it less cocoon-y?
I felt like I had reached most of my goals to a point isolating myself would only have furthered my autism, which made me turn it less cocoon-y. Fully exiting it was just a matter of feeling ready I dunno.

>Was it natural or did you make a concerted effort?
I felt ready, made a steady effort to speed up the process, if that makes sense to you.

>Do you talk to women?
ayyyyyy. Not only talking, wink wink nudge nudge

>modest 300-400 sq. foot cabin and so on
Well, full hermit mode would be grand, but is not possible for most. Don't overthink your libido, don't go jerry (no offense jerry m8 I love you), just try and focus on the important stuff with your sex drive as a side note. Trying to hold back on it to at some point magically let it all out is essentially like idiots in cbt asking about how many pl8s they need to bench to impress girls. Things like these are no moment, they are a process. Get your dick wet, don't get attached. If that's not you shtick, find a girl that will let you be you as much as she possibly can.
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>>40136316
10x10, you wanna get big don't you?
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>>40135639
Currentgf has that exact same bikini top. She just got it from a friend of hers and tried it on last night, that pic does a really bad job of showing just how tiny it is because that chick is pushing her chest up and taking a pic from a lower angle lol.

I kept pulling it up on her tits till it showed underboob. 10/10 highly recommend.
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>>40136401
>exit conditions for cocoon mode
Interesting analysis. I guess your ideas of readiness and goals change drastically in this new physiological environment where your options seem just so much more expansive. I'm finding a lot of the stuff I used to obsess about on grandpa test levels to just vanish from my consciousness - might be prudent to hold off on any major life calibrations regarding goals and/or outcomes until after my first blast or after 8 months on TRT (whichever comes sooner).

>Things like these are no moment, they are a process.
Yeah, makes sense, but hard to apply. Have a lot of cognitive dissonance with grandpa test thought patterns still bouncing around in my mind. Just basically stuff like holding on to virginity and being in a more stable state because you ostensibly wouldn't miss what you've never known as much as you would after having sex.

That and the potential cognitive dissonance resulting from being intellectually drawn to the traditional life but engaging in promiscuity. Makes you wonder whether it's a rite of passage thing (where the first few are a freebie and don't really weigh on your conscience) or whether you've gotta get it right from the start if you want true success.

Insightful posts - I appreciate you taking the time to respond.
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How does one acquire testosterone?
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>>40136719
>Yeah, makes sense, but hard to apply. Have a lot of cognitive dissonance with grandpa test thought patterns still bouncing around in my mind. Just basically stuff like holding on to virginity and being in a more stable state because you ostensibly wouldn't miss what you've never known as much as you would after having sex.
>That and the potential cognitive dissonance resulting from being intellectually drawn to the traditional life but engaging in promiscuity.
Kill yourself autistic fuck
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>>40136719
Stop referring to your former test level as a sort of deity governing your actions from the past. What would count as OCD for low test males is called dedication for adjusted test levels. Obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated, but you need to obsess about the right things. Look at masT, he is growing like an ox but still has enough dysmorphia left that it will never truly satisfy him. Use that mindset, apply it to whatever goal you might have, dial it back down just enough so you will comfortably reach a point where you are fine with who you are, striving to better yourself further but not hanging yourself for stalling, as long as you can say with utmost honesty that being you is fine the way it is at that point.

>virginity and so on
There is no set procedure. Either fuck around to lose your first pair of horns, or don't, it literally does not matter. Just don't base the rest of your actions on it in any way or form. Side note, remember. Be the best person you can be (and not ogre levels of hideous but I suppose you are not) and pussy will come naturally. If you want it, use it, if not, pay no mind, or even make some female friends you can shoot the shit with to gain confidence without orbiting in any way.

>taking time to respond
Boredom is a cunt, and you're fun to talk to all things considered.
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The phonecall that saved fraud
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>>40136774
You buy it from the testosterone store, just down the street from GNC.
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Fatlifts lost his virginity a few hours ago lads
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>>40136985
I demand proof
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>>40136985
>tfw first for fl gets laid is no longer possible
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>>40136783
Only if you join me faggot

>>40136788
>Stop referring to your former test level as a sort of deity governing your actions from the past.
Fair point. I mostly mean it in a way to designate the different way I expressed myself in the past but I see how it can seem like I'm using it to justify/excuse old behavior patterns.

On the whole, I don't have many complaints about the grandpa test life except for the physical and social aspects. I still had a REALLY good drive for pursuing my intellectual interests and got a ton of satisfaction from reaching some of my academic/professional goals. Now what I'm experiencing is that the physical and social aspects of life (which previously seemed like dead ends) have now opened up - and I'm trying to think about how to re-partition my efforts/attention between the totality of these aspects.

For now, I think I'm going to focus on scholarship and my profession since I have built up a good amount of momentum already. I think of it like stocks - just because something looks fresh and exciting doesn't mean you should put all your eggs in that basket at the expense of holding them in the baskets you've done a lot of due diligence/research on. The reason I'm interested in the cocoon mode stuff you mentioned is because it seems like a good opportunity to get your priorities in line on your own terms rather than having to figure them out or discover them on the fly.

>Just don't base the rest of your actions on it in any way or form.
Yeah, this (freedom from self-antagonism for being a virgin) is what I want to achieve in the near term. And I'm pretty close to being there completely, since two of the grills I met at the adoption drive have more or less requested the D and all that's left is to close the deal. So the whole "must be so hard to do and requires CHAD genetics" meme is destroyed, which I'm glad about.

>make some female friends
Interesting idea. Will try this. May be fun if the sex tension remains
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>>40136985
>Fatlifts lost his virginity a few hours ago lads
Lies!
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>>40136985
Id believe it
>>40137081
Lame
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>>40137089
I want to believe...
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How do you get on the gear the right way? The only thing I know about roids is you gain muscle faster, get acne, tits and tiny balls. But obviously there are people who do it right and get amazing results. What are those guys doing differently?
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>>40137080
Nothing to really add, you have nailed the concept and I need to leave soon anyway. But:

>female friends
>sexual tension remains
could go hella wrong. I have a handful that I'd never ever fuck just because, to prove myself I can be social enough to befriend them without an agenda in mind (except for gathering intel on acquaintances I indeed want to lay kek), mutual friendzoning for the lack of a better term. of course cheeky flirting is always nice, and I'm gonna be called a huge faggot for the mere principle so who cares.

>totality of aspects
Partition it with macros in mind. 40% physical 40% mental and social gains, fill rest with whatever lewd shit you might be up to, if that does not apply, treat it as jokers for one of the other two..
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What's the best steroid that doesn't cause hairloss?
I'm already on finasteride, and I don't want to lose anymore.
Thanks.
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>>40137186
100mg test/wk with deca, bold

these can still cause hair loss, but likely won't unless you're really sensitive to DHT or run too much
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>>40137173
They go to reddit's r/steroids board and read their wiki
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Where the hell do you even get steroids? At a pharmacy or something?
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>>40137246
If you have a prescription sure.
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Is there a way I could pass a loaded pin through the airport?

Will they be suspicious?
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>>40137227
>>40137186
Does using Rogaine on cycle prevent hairloss?
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>>40137278
Buy a diabetic travel organizer and put it in that.
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>>40137278
Someone has posted here in the past that TSA dgaf about medicines and is just trying to look out for weapons. I'd probably keep it next to some shampoo bottles in your ziploc bag and see what happens. Needles should probably go alongside to avoid them opening your bag to find it and asking you why you've got em.

Am considering taking a syringe filled with olive oil and pins on a trial flight since this was the primary reason I wasted 4 months trying to get legal/pharma TRT (concerns about ability to travel with test).
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>>40137302
>diabetic travel organizer
This is fucking genius. Thank you anon. Might pick this up and get one of my grandma's old blood glucose testers with a few testing strips to throw in there so it's more convincing.
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>>40137278
>>40137302
>>40137327
report back with results, will be needing to do the same thing a few times this year and not wanting to switch to test u because lazy.
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>>40137350
It's literally $30 or cheaper on amazon. If they start getting suspicious just cite the Americans with Disabilities Act (assuming you're in burgerland) and act confidant. Tell them that according to the ADA you don't have to answer questions about personal required medication or some shit.
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Damn Argentinian women are good looking. Somewhat foreign but still mostly white features, brb booking tickets to Buenos Aires.

Any fraudsters been there?
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>>40137327
That was probably me. But it is true they don't give a fuck unless you have weed in your bag.

>>40137351
Just peel the label off the vial or buy some 2-5ml vials to make it look more like insulin. As for needles, they're legal I'm most states and federally nor do they pose a risk to air travel so they really don't care.
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>>40137579
>Argentina
>mostly white
>>>/int/

All kidding aside, I agree. Only been once for like a week but it was superb.
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>>40137694
Looking online it seems like they give out boob jobs like candy or something. Nearly every girl has fake tits which is okay with me but kinda weird to see so many.
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>>40137812
They have no middle ground. Every woman is either Barbie's latina cousin or a dog faced fridge with tits at waist level. It's fucking eerie..
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>>40137835
Lol.
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>>40136985
Pls b tru
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>>40137611
better to stick everything in the carry on or in my stored luggage?

or would the pressure changes pose an issue in the cargo hold?
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>>40138127
The bins are pressurized to the same altitude as the cabin the only difference would be the temperature. If there isn't an animal down there it'll be pretty cold.

I'd take it in your carry-on. If TSA find something in checked bags they can't really get ahold of you to ask so they usually get the police to talk to you. If they see it at the checkpoint they'll just ask you (doubtful though).
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>cialias didn't work
>dick dead on cialias

LoL

You should have seen her face

Little guy just does not have any life in him today

>go to her dorm
>push her on the bed
>take off her clothes
>start sucking on her tits
>hmmm
>why is it dead
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>>40138238
Cialis makes it harder for your boners to go away, it won't give you them in the first place. So basically you're gay.
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>>40138238
Missed your chance to tell her it's cause she's gotten fat.
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>>40136985
Why the fuck is anyone responding to this stale meme

That's all it is, a meme

Unless u count fucking a onahole stuck into an anime pillow
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>>40138286
>>40138296

Brehs I forgot to wear the little eye safety things for like 5 mins am I gonna be OK?

Also I'm still so fucking pale, how many tans before I am zyzz tan?
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>>40138340
you gon go blind haha sucks to be you

about 7-9 10 minute sessions or half that for 20min (which I don't recommend for chaulk colored fags like you) for it to really show evenly.
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>>40138340
RIP ur retinas. Also get MT2, it'll make tanning much better if you're pale. You'll tan much faster and won't get burned.
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>>40138369

Stop memeing will I be ok?
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>>40138393
how the fuck are you asking this WHILE posting the safety shit

i mean you won't go blind instantly if you forgot the goggles for 5 mins. but had your eyes firmly closed the whole time. still pay attention to this shit you oaf.

if you literally stared into aww the pwetty bwue light for those 5 mins, you deserve to be removed from the gene pool
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>>40138379
>RIP your retinas
>advising him to get a drug that causes freckles behind the eye
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>>40137579
>Damn Argentinian women are good looking.
Ole!
>>40137812
Saved
>>40138127
Sup dude? Wanna trade some memek for tren ace?
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>>40138456
>f you literally stared into aww the pwetty bwue light for those 5 mins, you deserve to be removed from the gene pool

Yeah bro that's exactly what I did

I can still see though. Guess I'm glad I'm not blind?
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Fuck

why do I have trouble sticking with a routine for more than 3 weeks

the only thing I stuck with longer than that was sheiko because it was fun as fugg

maybe I should go back

>>40138512
[email protected] laddie

>>40138527
cataracts WHEN
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>>40138527
some of the damage is not immediate tho. also holy shit please be b8 you cannot literally be this retarded

yes I slightly mad
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>>40138512
>Saved
N-no the National Shitposting League did not give you express permission to reuse these images, expect a certified letter from my lawyer soon.
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>>40138549

You'd be surprised brah

Also my skin feels fucking burned LOL

Shit hurts, 10 minutes in only.

>>40138544

Google says I'm fine. Although my eyes kinda hurt.

They actually starting to burn a little now

http://www.city-data.com/forum/health-wellness/2007145-did-something-incredibly-stupid-tanning-salon.html
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>>40138586
I genuinely hope you die.
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>>40138586

Fuck I gotta drive like 30 mins home and I'm high as fuck and my eyes hurt so bad
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>>40138607

Why you gotta be such a Debbie downer

Fuck my skin and eyes hurt
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>>40138623
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>>40138544
Cool I hit you up later.
>>40138550
What you think of this grill?
>>40138586
>>40138607
>>40138623
What is happening with this poster? Drug overdose?
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>>40138638
tanning bed as a pale ghost fiending on ECA and cialis, while wearing no eye protection whatsoever.
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>>40138638

Cap bby is it so hard to scroll up

Idk thE ec paranoia and paranoia that I fucked my eyes is getting to me

I'm not even worried about the ED bro it's my eyes

If I can't see the barbells how can I get bigger? You ever seen a shredded blind man?
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>>40138673

>the the cialias they said
>your dick is gonna work they said

I got another date tmrw with a diff girl what do bros? Don't want a repeat.
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>>40138716
Trykilling yourself
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>>40138730

Gtfo fucking r9k loser
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>>40138716
Maybe date women that you don't expect to dick on the first meeting.

Don't listen to me though. I dick almost everyone the first date.
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>>40138716
lay off the eca for the day, pop some viagra an hour or, maybe little less, beforehand. pretty shit tbqh but your only hope for one last good fuck before you lose your eyesight
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>>40138747
Fraud is apparently r9k now with these shitty blog posters
Mods should just delete fraud entirely
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>>40138673
>>40138697
We are posting about ephedrine?..
>>40138716
Try slamming your cock in a car door. Always works for me.
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>>40138755
>Maybe date women that you don't expect to dick on the first meeting.

What's a good balance on the easiness scale from 1 to 10 where a 1 is a tinderslut and a 10 is a hardcore religious nutcase, of how many meetings it takes to fuck a girl
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>>40138767
Shoo gains goblin shoo shoo
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>>40138824
>says the natty shitposter trying to talk to his "friends"
MODS DELETE FRAUD
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>>40138842
delete your existence by kys you piece of shit. your're really lowering the level of discourse in the steroids megathread. you make me sick.
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>600mg tren 500mg dnp plus clen ephedrine


I dunno if i should go no carb or low carb.

Tren loves the shit out of it but dnp will burn me up though that might further improve partitioning and fat loss.

Currently eating 800 cals of chicken breast and 800 cals of peas and beans for the whole day. (180lbs estimate tdee is 4300 all drugs included).
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>>40138889
you should eat all of your carbs right before you go to bed
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>>40138867
>lowering level of discourse
Have you even READ this thread?

>glands look at this fat cbt!
>how do I tan?
>Fl lost his virginity
>where 2 cop?
>muh pure Christian gf

There is no discourse
Its autistic friends general but all the good posters left
Fuck off back to that autistic discord
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>>40138901
kek
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>>40138904
the worst posts are the meta state of the thread posts that happen all the time and are always worthless
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>>40138901

I eat half of it during work(need energy plus i work in the coldass dairy section of a massive supermarket so the heat helps).

The other half is post workout, cause of the whole anabolic period broscience.
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>Set tinder to also match with men
>300 matches in an hour
Should I turn gay?
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>>40138822
I couldnt say.

Women who date me, like me sure, but we both don't beat around the bush when it comes to why they've met with me or keep me around.

I'm not dating material so your mileage may vary.
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>>40138973

Ask for money and favors via amazon vouchers or pizza deliveries. But dont put out physically.
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Where do you get your tees from lads

Taper is getting nice and sick of baggy shit round the waist
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>>40136985
B R U H
R
U
H

FL is MastersGear
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>>40139022
sonofatailor.com
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>>40139022
standard american apparel crew neck, one size too small. hella gay but does the trick.
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>>40139093
My nigga. Kinda expensive but well worth every dime.
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You guize wanna see the new labels?
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>>40139145
>inb4 hand drawn with sharpie
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>>40139153
It is hand drawn ;)
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>>40139166
kek nice. pls share
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>running 2 grams of injectables
>on 2.5mg pharma letrozole EOD
>still want to an hero

i-it's not the estrogen is it guys....
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>>40139185
you have triggered your self-destruction protocol by blasting too much. good riddance.
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>>40138755

I don't know if she was expecting to get dicked but I was expecting to dick her so...

>>40138759

lollll

I'm not laying off the EC desu

It makes music sound so good

At best I can slowly taper off in two weeks which I need to and will do so anyways

Who needs working dick?

I need to get hard I will just look at MasT pics nbd

>>40138914

This

The only people that complain are r9k faggots who just get absolutely triggered hardcore at the idea of a guy having sex

Not even having sex rather, almost having Sex and having ed

Mirrin' bitterness
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>>40138638
>What you think of this grill?
Looks decent but it really depends what her face looks like.

>>40139166
Gib phree MK 823 pl0x.
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>>40139185
completely destroying estrogen is also shit, what are you running, why so high?
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>>40139245
2g trest
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>>40139263
Okay, but why?
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>>40138987
>I'm not dating material
Do you actually believe this or is this just what you've been told?

Don't know you all too well but you seem like a pretty thoughtful guy who could empathize with someone else pretty well. And as an added bonus would probably get them really fit during the duration you dated them.

>>40139145
Ya
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>>40139263
Post body

>>40139166
>tfw no free oil painting with each purchase of memek
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>>40139226
I just now noticed the guy we were talking to about the tanning was alex the whole time. Jesus motherfucking Christ.
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>>40139337
daily scooby doo moment
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>>40139292
>Do you actually believe this or is this just what you've been told?
bimbo just has stockholm syndrome on account of his """""ex"""""". and the whole gay porn thing probably doesn't help.
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This is a work in progress and I am well aware of spelling mistakes and other major issues.
I love the hand drawn chalk art style!
Let me know what you brehs think!
I have tried to represent masculinity, confidence, 4chan, and bodybuilding all in one logo.
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>>40139337

Why did you need to post this? Now no one will banter with me, because I'm not on steroids.

Why you think trip came off?

Couldn't just keep it to urself?

Hurr hurr gotta ignore the natty. Don't matter that he's making better gains than the anon that posted 6 months of SS + Perma blast 1000mg for 6 months in 4 months of starving himself, just ignore him, not on steroids.
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Would 500mg a week Test E stacked with DBOL for the first 6 weeks be a good beginner cycle? Rather than cycle off I plan to just run 100-150mg a week for life. I'm 19 and have no desire to ever have kids and don't care about dying slightly earlier. So I'm aware of the risks.
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>>40139358
Not him but it's pretty clear it's you, paragraph spacing, run on sentences, certain phrases you always use, masT fangirl. That said, I don't loathe you as much as most here (more a mld kind of indifference) do so honestly idc much who you are trip or not
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>>40139357
Why did you draw me on the cover

>>40139376
I hope you dont mean 6 weeks total
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>>40139388
>dbol for the first 6 weeks
Jerry pls

>>40139376
You will likely need an AI, I end up needing one just with 500mg test E alone.
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>>40139358
>gains don't matter hurr durr just ignore him, not on steroids
you do know we have natties lurking and occasionally posting, right? not that common save natT but still only a small portion of the /fraud/ regulars ignore you because of your nattiness. most have different reasons kek
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>>40139382

anyways, I look like I have hepatitis, or liver failure,

I went from totally pale to this sort of sickly yellow liver disease tint.

Nice.

Aesthetic etc.

I'll keep tanning and keep suicide cutting and try to get some nice pictures then eat matienence and do a slow bulk
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>>40139462
stop taking orals and take some tudca ED asap
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>>40139424

I stopped being a annoying faggot for the most part though

turn the other cheek, sins forgiven, etc

hopefully if I keep up the QUALITY posting they will forgive and forget
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>>40139462
Lmao hep isn't that bad it goes away pretty quick with meds
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>>40139471

I'm not taking anything, it's just because I went from smeagle to hepatitis tan because of 1 tanning botth session
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>>40139476
with all your autistic dedication, you're actually making progress. I'll reserve the right to belittle you for my personal amusement but I won't actually mind or be bitter if you actually btfo people at some point.
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>>40137186
>>40137227
Do not run nandrolone with fina.
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>>40139602

I appreciate it bby.

>if you actually btfo people at some point.

eyes on the prize.
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>>40139226
>I'm not laying off the EC desu
>It makes music sound so good
have fun tapering off you literal methhead
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>>40139659
big """IF""". but yes.
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>>40139388
>Why did you draw me on the cover
Check out my custom jerry art.
Hope you don't mind. Told one of my IRL friends about you and he drew this.
I think it's bad ass.
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Does anyone take smaller amounts of test for quality of life improvements?
Got my work done and found out I have 320ng/dL. Apparently this is normal so I can't get prescribed anything.

If I boosted it to ~600 would I have adverse affects or would I need to cycle? Seems like a healthy range.
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>>40139701
Diet? Body fat? Age? Sleep?
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>>40139701
100 mg got me to 800ng/dl and definitely improved qol, main two aspects being sleep and libido

>>40139697
Get that tattooed on your bum

>>40139743
Are you big ramy yet
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>>40139609
Hows the YK11 going/what is it adding?
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>>40139672

Just the standard of who you want to btfo man.

I can already BTFO that guy that did 6 months of starting strength according to the book PLUS a PERMA BLAST NOT EVEN BLAST AND CRUISE LAMO

Didn't save retards pic, anyone have?

But there is no accomplishment in BTFO such a literal fucking idiot, even doing it in less time and natty and at deficiet etc.

You should want to BTFO shit like this playing by the same rules.

Shoot for the moon, land among the stars.
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>>40139743
22
I've been working out for 1 year now. BF 19%, could be lower which might increase test a bit but I doubt it'd be that much.
Started a clean diet months and months ago, no booze/drugs, no soy, no plastics even.
Sleep 6-8 hours a night.
Got work done after using zinc suppies for a few months which felt like it helped a little but apparently not a lot.
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>>40139754
>Get that tattooed on your bum
LMAO my man ass is way too hairy to show a tat sorry.
>>40139768
I was super excited about yk11 but now I am kinda ehhh. I am sitting on 10g that I need to cap and send to bimbo and masT for evaluation.
What do you think of my logo? No one seems to be responding?
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>>40139822
The chalk drawing is kinda amateurish
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>>40139822
What logo?

How much of a pita is capping? I might just liquid kit all my shit
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>>40139754
Still baby ramy.

>>40139768
Haven't noticed anything since adding it. Not even sure it's real, couldn't find anywhere to test it.

>>40139798
Understand that if you start taking testosterone for TRT purposes you will likely have to be on for the rest of your life. It's an important decision, do some research and give it some thought before you jump in.

>>40139822
Logo is trash, no offense. Spend some money on a real designer to make you something. Check dribbble if you don't know anyone local.
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>>40139865
>The chalk drawing is kinda amateurish
Ya? What do you mean?
I fell in love with it from the moment I saw it. It is very flawed but also beautiful in my humble opinion.
>>40139868
>What logo?
See >>40139357
>>40139879
>Logo is trash, no offense. Spend some money on a real designer to make you something.
No offense taken! I really like the chalk/hand drawn dude. What would you change?
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>>40139865
>>40139879
>cap killed himself that night, the body was never found
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>>40139865
>>40139868
>>40139879
Also mind you this is going on a label that is 50mm tall and a lot of detail will be lost.
Goals were ripped dude + the 4chan clover.
>>40139952
If I ever an hero it will be national news ;)
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>>40139879
>Understand that if you start taking testosterone for TRT purposes you will likely have to be on for the rest of your life
I was completely under this impression. If I keep taking it to boost myself to a 600-800 level, is this sustainable? I guess I'll need to do some more research on people with prescriptions and actual doctors.
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>>40139928
I've seen worse, label is not bad, logo not so great imho.

>>40140051
Of course you dont have to, you have the option of returning to your shitty levels which you probably dont want to do.
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>>40140073
>I've seen worse, label is not bad, logo not so great imho.
What would you change? I wanted a masculine shredded dude with a subtle nod to 4chan and all my brehs.
I know chalk art is not the most popular thing ever but it feels very underground and custom and I love it. 'Murica!
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Holy shit, reddit two years blast and cruise...

http://imgur.com/a/9hgTt

https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/5n0s0h/two_years_of_blasting_and_cruising_followed_by/

Reminder this is the type of people giving you advice
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>>40136329
Hey let's build a community and shit. Not too interdependent but close enough if someone breaks a leg or has a spiritual crisis or something.

Plus occasional tandem workouts
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>>40140153
Wow and they are all saying he looks great and shit he could have fucking done that in one blast but fucking over two years?
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>>40140151
With keeping the existing designish Im not sure. Maybe the type face for advanced body science and change the oval, and have the background extend under the shape.

I guess it depends on how it looks in small print.
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>>40140174

How can u blast for 2 years and have zero size in ur back?

I bet you I beat him in 2 years natty
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>>40140153
>implying this doesn't look great by any kind of standards

post your body already fuccboi so we can make fun of you
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>>40140174
This is what I basically expect you to look like cause your fear of the fat makes you eat too little.
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>>40140253
Id like the pecs a little bigger and the abs to be symmetrical
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>>40140253
He looks good but has no thiccness.

I want him to be thicc

I want us all to get thicc
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This was my 2 year transformation I think I did it wrong

>6'5 243 natty
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>>40140296
I def fucked up

This was July 20-21 2016
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>>40140296
Nothing to compare it to

Looks like your shoulders have gotten wider over the years. Gives me hope I want to have broader shoulders, I need em to press more heavyier
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>>40140155
>Hey let's build a community
The community is here neighbor. How can we support you?
>>40140186
So the main dude/logo needs to be bigger on the label?
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>>40140253
Different anon here. He does look great. It's just not proportional to two years of blasting.

>>40140293
How do I into EKKERT MÁL mode?
Seriously, JPS is the reason I started lifting.
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>>40140296
you had gyno natty?
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>>40140253
How the fuck does 13 inch arms look good by any standard

And look at his fucking "back"

TWO YEARS of steroids, 4 blasts
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>>40140348
pics
i
c
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>>40140315
Here
>>40140316
I hate how tren makes me look. Flat. I think I was on coke here too.

I look and feel better using just test and npp.
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>>40140363
Dics
i
c

U are all so butthurt I could look like calum von moger and u would talk shit
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>>40140330
Pick up heavy things.

Really heavy things. Sometimes in awkward shapes.
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>>40140390
>I hate how tren makes me look. Flat.

I get this shit too, what's this meme?
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>>40140393
Yeah but if you looked like Calum you'd actually post a pic though
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>>40140393
that's a nice excuse
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>>40140329
No I mean if it looks good when printed small.
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>>40140390
Tried DHB?
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>>40140329
Thanks for the spirit but there's a difference between interaction online and in person.

That and I've had a long-standing goal to go build a cabin and a makeshift gym and live the hermit life. So you could like, provide ideas on simple ways to support myself doing that.
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>>40140419
>>40140417
I don't need validation from this gay ass forum, especially when u will all talk shit for no reason, for my body when I get it IRL
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>>40140446
>Simples to support myself

Sure, no probs anon.

Disregard women, acquire currency.
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>>40140404
Ok, cool, I'll be back in a couple of years. Keep the lights on for me.
And I fucking swear, if I come back looking like JPS or Kaz and /fraud/ just calls me fat, I'm gonna lose it.
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>>40140454
>lmao look how ugly everyone else but me looks
>steroids were magic for me and transformed my body, everyone else is doing it wrong
>not gonna post my body btw

I hope you realize we all know you look like shit, even after being on tren lol (that's hard to do)
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>>40140416
Probably how sugar is utilized within the cell itself. Nutrient partioning may just be so effective on tren we don't see a lot of that typical "fullness" heavy androgens provide ie sdrol. Npp sorts it out.
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>>40140472
If that's what lets u sleep at night

its also funny then how every time I post my progress timeline people on /fit/ and reddit bitch about roids

>hur nice dianabol
>hur roids
>wtf hes more muscle AND leaner in the after pic

I don't care what I think stay butthurt

>>40140491
What do you run npp at with tren to look full?

Idk if I want to run two 19 nors tho
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>>40140458
I wouldn't bby. My goal is to be big and strong like that too.

Maybe not so permabulky as Big Z, though. I wanna stay vaguely human shaped.
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>>40140579
>don't care what I
What u*** fuckinf piede of shit phone that is litrtslly the only thing it corrects
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>>40140579
Keep everything at 350. No need for more.
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>>40140597
>Keep everything at 350. No need for more.
H-heh
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>>40140611
That's over a gram of hormone. It's plenty.
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>>40140622
How did you find your dryness when adding npp to tren vs just tren?

I like flexing and having more vein surface area than skin
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>>40140590
>leaving humanity behind
>staying shaped like humanity
Pick one, friend.

Related to strongman stuff: I did the log press for the first time today, and it was really fun. I need to learn the technique better, though. It was really weird getting it up to the pressing position.
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>>40140653
Scroll up >>40140390


My dryness is fine on supposedly wet compounds. Adjust diet.
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>>40140668
Just asking because I never tried deca or npp since I hear they are dbol tier for bloat
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>>40140680
Not if you know how to eat.
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>>40140665
Jelly. There's not really any specialty stuff at my gym besides an ssb.

I'd like to fuck around with a log and some stones most of all.
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>>40140579
>every time I post my progress timeline
>>>>>>>>>>>>implying
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>>40139357
>Rice Flower

flour mate.
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>>40140579
Youv never posted anything but your glands tf you talkin bout
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>>40140795
Speaking of which

My face no longer looks like a chipmunk. At all. This shit is that effective.

Right now practically it is only removing all definition from my masseter area thus preventing me fron shaving

I predict it will be completely gone at this rate by saturday
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>>40141111

Nice quads glands.

I've been spending a lot of time in the city from tinder dates.

It seems everyone is much uglier than the country side, and out of shape too.

Most guys here look like I do, or better, very few actually look worse than I do.

In the city, everyone is either fat or skinnyfat even, there aren't even those lean skeleton with abs type physiques

All the women are much uglier too.

Anyone have thoughts on this? Before bimbo or mast or someone posts >I live in the city lol u mirrin little man, I am talking in generalities .

Just struck me as I was in boston last night, that everyone was way out of shape, compared to rural areas.

Was it it about the city that does this to people?
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welp the person i have been buying dnp off for 3years has decided to rip me off for over $2000

let this be a lesson for everyone.
you cant trust anyone


pic for attention
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>>40141153
what happened?
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>>40141174
contacted usual person the usual way.
we agreed on amounts and compounds.
i sent money.
still had a little contact, i asked if he was on reddit or somewhere i could leave a review if it went well.
he said he was look at evo.
now i cant make cantact, all the email accounts appear to have been deleted.
"The email account you tried to reach has been disabled"

and like i said i have been buying from this guy for 3 years
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>>40141212
dude that is a shitload of money

it's time to start ordering raws and brewing m8
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>>40140597
Hey bimbo how about nandro cyp instead of npp? I prefer a twice a week schedule
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>>40141212
Could be he exit scammed. Or he got nabbed by law enforcement.
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>>40141232
nah going somewhere else.
an established business.
>>40141246
high probability of a definite maybe
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>>40141237
If you can actually find it go for it, it's pretty rare though. I've heard the PIP is bad but I've never done it myself so take that with a grain of salt.
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>>40141267
I can get the raw so Ill have to home brew
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>>40141288
That's good, you'll be able to control the final product.
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>>40141302
Theres so many compounds I want to try though
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>>40141212
Dude dnp isnt even illegal.

https://v2.enhancedathlete.com/product/dnp/
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>>40141378
No but you could probably make a case that distributing it for human consumption is illegal.
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>>40141378
it is in australia
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>>40141141
Stress hormones. Maybe higher occurance of party lifestyle, but mostly stress hormones
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>>40137302
yeah, this is a great idea.
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Yo this MENT I'm looking at says 15mg of mentabolon and looks like a PH is it good to go or?
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I'm going to fuck a prostitute with big tits in a few hours.
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>>40141651
>mentabolon
Kek it should say trestolone
Might be another name for oral trest but its wierd as shit
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>>40141723
I hope it is lol
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>>40141723
Ment is a nandrolone afaik
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>>40141871
http://prohormonedb.com/view-supplement.asp?n=Mentabolan&i=109

Might wanna compare proper chemical names if possible.
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>>40141885
Chemical names are the same guess it's just being sold as a pro hormone due to legal reasons and what not.
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>>40136048

Why do I do this to myself? I know she is no good for me
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>>40142670
So tell her to get off to reliving her past abuse with someone else.
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>>40142751

You're right I've been down this road before and it never ends well
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ITs the fucking best, just fuck the living shit out of them. Tren + a girl like that makes me happier than anything possibly could, I'm sure.
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Oi
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>>40139089
no fucking way
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>day 1 of 500mg dnp 80mcg clen and a pill of kaizen
>feel permanently winded and extremely weak, as if i just went on ketosis on a prolonged 600cal diet and did an intense workout

What the FUCK did taylormade put in their dnp, I have never felt such insane weakness so quickly, it almost always happened only on the 4th day + as a result of being burned alive, but the heat hasn't really kicked in and I just feel absolutely torn down.
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>>40143470
>clen + dnp + ephedrine

besides the fact your body is actively ripping itself to shreds by combining 3 of the most aggressive cutting substances i'd say you're doing fine.
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Searching for a customers name, saw this.

BTFO hard. Family. FAMILY. Family just throws you in the trash like a used condom?

All the I loves you and I want to be with you forever and it all fucking LIES and BULLSHIT

I am so mad, we were both 2/10s, in love, wtf was she thinking? we were gonna have kids and stuff.

I was already making 6 digits at this point and SHE KNEW BECAUSE SHE WAS WORKING WITH ME EVER DAY.

NOT GOOD ENOUGH NEVER FOR A 2/10

And why I'm NOT OVER A 2/10 LAMO? SO LONG LATER?

And people ask me why I'm so autistic and I don't trust women and blah blah blah

YEAH trust people and get FUCKED.

ON TOPIC: How many more sluts do I have to erectile dysfunction on before I am OVER this bitch? 100? 1000? more?

WTF WERE YOU THINKING.

I DONT WANNA DO ANY OF THIS SHIT AND BANG RANDOM GIRLS.

Bodybuilding related:

PMSF DAY ONE TODAY.

SHREDDED. SOON.

GET SHREDDED, GET BIG. GET HUGE. GONNA SHOW THEM WHAT AUTISM + NATTY BODYBUILDING CAN DO.

If/WHEN I pin, I'm thinking thinking.

I can afford methyltren, pharma HGH, whatever the FUCK I want. I can lift for 16 hours a day.

WHO KNOWS WHAT MY FINAL FORM WILL BE???

FUCK HUMANITY THEY ARE FUCKING TRASH LAMO MAST YOU WERE RIGHT FUCKING LEAVE THEM SOMEDAY, IM GOING TO,

But first I got some natties to BTFO some day. SOME DAY. For now, housewife btfo me. BUT WE WILL SEE.
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>>40143516
I can barely understand 90% of your posts.

Really the only thing I got out of this one is thst you're mad about a oneitis or some shit
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>>40143678

im mad at myself for not moving on from a disgusting horse faced bitch that moved on from me before I knew it was over after A

Y
E
A
R

WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME

U MIRRIN *KING* BETA STATUS?
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Just ordered DNP for the first time

time to die broskis
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>>40142670
jesus that is one dysfunctional relationship lmao
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>>40143683
Yeah I got that, mad about your oneitis
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>>40140458
we definitely will. but in an affectionate way knowamsayin
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I cri;-;
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>>40141237
pip will rape you
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>>40141141
Wayyy higher stress levels, more access to overprocessed fast food, worse air and more pollution (a however small factor but it does), depending on living arrangements worse sleep, readily available venues for partying all fucking day and night which kills gains, cognitive dissonance of seeing other untrained folks and not feeling too bad about self.

I live in a rural area with like 9000 people total and half of the males are literal fucking strongman lumberjacks who strangle their own small game for lunch kek. It motivates you.
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>>40141651
sketchy as fuark

buy and use lots of it, post progress for science kek
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>>40142670
Been there. It's silly fun but it ruins you in the long run. Tread lightly m8
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>>40143470
good riddance
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>>40143516
i admire your dedication but have nothing but disdain for anything else about you. stop doing this to my head
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>>40136048
>Want to start cycle
>Don't want to end up like Finn
what do?
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>>40144241
literally lurk moar. both here and reddit wiki
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Does high carb low fat make you not able to stop shitting and farting for 5 seconds?

About to say fuck it and bulk on more fat
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Fuck m8. Quitted the juice lifestyle last october after 2 years of b&c. Bloods say i recovered but im missing the juicy feelings.

Being natty sucks why even live. Tfw no acne tho
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>>40144495
Heyy I hopped on last Oct

What made you decide it was time to come off?
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>>40144511
Wound up sucking dick for juice money... Decided enough is enough at that point
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>>40144511
Mostly the mental feeling of having to think 24/7 about your needles, pills, injection times. Its nice not to be thinking about it. Let alone traveling, chilling,...

Also pinning was turned into a fucked up thing, pinning glutes showed up as an infection on bloods.

If I ever hop back on, its just to do a cycle instead of going on for years again. Id recommend that also for beginners. I went for the b&c ride on my first cycle straight away.

Oh and say bye bye to your gains if you go off lol. Specially a long b&c. Spaghetti arms will show up and your chest will be like small chicken breasts.
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>>40144557
>Mostly the mental feeling of having to think 24/7 about your needles, pills, injection times.
Do you also stress about brushing your teet
Cuz it's the same thing except you do ut twice a week unless you are using dank meme esters
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>>40144568
I can brush my teeth while surrounded by strangers. Unlike pinning.

What a shit comparison that was you 2 brain cells owned lil shit
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>>40144584
You dont brush your teeth in the bathroom?
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>>40144688
hes saying hes surrounded by people all the time
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>>40137173
Acne is from fucked up estro levels which you can control (this is true of most compounds anyway). Tiny balls is a maybe (I've been on for 9 months mine haven't changed at all). Your dick does not shrink, that is a lie.
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>>40144528
kek2
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>>40144751
lol the "squared" sign is literally too much unicode for 4chan. why do I find this so funny

anyway, I chuckled
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>>40144718
He can't lock a door?
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>>40136130
>>40136152
So what was the issue after all?? Was it the tren?
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>>40145091
I think it was the oil his source used in the tren, apparently allergic to grapeseed oil. very rare.
>>
co-workers keep randomly touching my chest/arms/abs at work

wtf? this has never happened to me before and it has happened 4 different times in the past two weeks

am I getting swolested?
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>>40145408
>am I getting swolested?
new fav word ever
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>>40145408
No they feel sorry for you being ugly and a nobody so they are pretending they like you so you feel better about yourself and will not kill yourself in the end

trust me i know how this kinda shit goes, i do it all the time. But keep dreaming and believing and eventually you will make it then
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>>40145465
(You)

getting weak masT
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I have the shittiest libido no matter what I'm on and what doses of ancillaries. Fuck this. I want full on tren rapist mode but no I get limp noodle.
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>>40145511
Trust me the fact that you come here and say such things with utter proud, says more about you than about me. I wouldn't see that as something special, since that would happen quite often in my reality. But hey, if such things can make you happy, who am i to judge you then

LEARN TO APPRECIATE THE LITTLE THINGS IN LIFE, i see that you already live by that saying. very good, people often forget the little things in life and only thing about being big like me. Why would you be big if you could be small, rightt. RIGHT

No fuck all this, i am really happy for you.
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>>40136048
I am a very handsome young man, and strong and I love sex in all positions and I love to perform sex for long periods of time. Everyone that has had sex with me will testify that they have experienced something they had never seen before. I am going to take off all your clothes and walk my lips over every part I reveal, kissing every inch of your body and I'll carry you in my hands, and hold you close, and tuck you into bed and hold your breasts. I put each tit in my hands and kiss them, and I'll put each tit in my mouth and lick your nipples with my tongue. I'm waiting for you. Please respond.
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>>40145573
(you)

you don't even get a capital y
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>>40144033
Yea I'm about to buy it can I post the link of the pro hormone website here or is that not allowed?? It's just a PH so?
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>>40145614
PLEASE GIVE ME ATTENTION I AM A MISERABLE LONELY MAN, LOOKING AT MY OWN PICTURES BECAUSE I AM SEXUAL FRUSTRATED

My fat mother can't satisfy me anymore, fuck you faggots i once loved you
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>>40145639
How was work today hermano
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>>40145575
This is very gay
That is not how women should be treated
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>>40145200
Oh wow
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>>40145634
technically yes but nobody will really care. just try not to die and take progress pics
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>>40145575
neck hangs x F
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First cycle, lads.

What's amiss?
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>>40145956
What the hell is Omnadron?
>>
>>40145956
>omnadren
for what purpose
>tamoxifen
I hope you're keeping that on hand in case you develop gyno and not planning on using that for pct
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>>40146037
>>40146048
Some test blend. It's what's I'd take from week 10 to week 12, cause the Bayer test would only last me 10 weeks and I don't really wanna blow an extra €130 on test if I'm only gonna have to use 4 amps.
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>>40146048
I was planning to go 40/40/20/20 with the tamoxifen. Isn't that the usual PCT, or should I go with Clomid? I'd rather stay away from using HCG 2bh.
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>>40146037
>>40146061
yeah it's effectively sustanon

so garbage
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>>40146070
I misread/had a brain fart

it's fine
>>
>>40146092
Guess I'll get some other amps of Test E then. Will be more expensive but w/e.
>>
>>40146108
why tf are u getting bayer test e? Its expensive af compared to underground lab stuff.
>>
>>40146151
I'd rather stay away from UGL stuff, since I don't really know any decent UGL brands and I'm fine with spending a bit more on pharma grade stuff, knowing at least that they're reputable.
>>
>>40146169
lurk more dude. ur getting ripped off.
>>
I'll never understand why anyone would use Sust unless for some reason they needed to slowly ramp into a cycle, but were ok with pinning at an Acetate schedule.
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Anyone here know whether or not Upper Lower splits are optimal for competitive bodybuilding?

Pretty much every top pro I've seen does a split
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>>40146229
even pinning it eod is shit because the 60mg prop fades after 48 hours but the hex/deca esthers just keep stacking upon each other.

so you are never sure what kind of dosages you are currently working inside you.
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>if u crash ur estrogen, u cant build muscle.

does anyone seriously believe this bullshit?

even enchanced athleteshill said his friend did letro for a year and he gained absolutely no muscle no matter how hard he trained and ate, he just looked insanely defined and at his best condition.

then of course he shills ment as being the best thing ever (which he sells).

fuck.
>>
>TFW getting really bad headaches but want to start first cycle already

Wtf do I do I don't want to keep waiting
>>
>>40146449
I can't wait to see just how hard the feds hit him.

I like DNP, but it's definitely not something that should have widely advertised youtube videos, with links to places that "totally aren't for human consumption bro."
>>
Just curious, what does /fraud/ do for a living?

It seems like all the people I know IRL who roid are very well accomplished in their professional lives and have loads of dosh. I know this isn't the case for everyone, but I'm genuinely curious what most of you do.
>>
>>40146480

unfortunately he's a retired lawyer so he probably has his shit well protected.
>>
>>40146532
I'm not /fraud/ yet, but there's this one guy on gear I know who runs a software firm. He has a pretty comfy job, and he's a generally active dude, and one of the reasons why I'm hopping on myself. He runs the company and works as a PT in the evening. He looks great and has the lifestyle of a guy in his prime when he's actually in his fifties or so.
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>>40146265
you know, when I was natty I just blindly believed people who said body part splits were only for people on roids because really, working a muscle once a week doesn't make sense

but now years later I don't understand why it's recommended for enhanced lifters who can recover much faster than natties

I guess one day I'll have to try one for a couple of months and see what happens, but I just don't get it. u/l and PPL it is for me
>>
>>40146449
Fuck him and all he stands for. Not even because of what he does (although that too), I literally hate him enough as a person already.
>>
>>40146532
>very well accomplished in their professional lives
somewhat, yes

>and have loads of dosh
kek no
>>
>4 weeks of DNP and low calories only makes you lose 25lbs
The fuck?
>>
Sup /fraud/ just got my blood work results from my 16 week tren/test cycle + 4 weeks pct without HcG.

That's 4 months after pct.
Everything looks good but test is at the bottom of the normal range, should I be worried or it should come back after a couple of months?
>>
>>40146837
do you have your precycle bloods for reference?
>>
How likely are you to start balding during your cycle? I don't think I'm predisposed to this balding (no one is bald or balding in my family), but I really don't wanna be risking losing my hair. Will Finasteride on cycle do any difference?
>>
>>40146880
Yep, it was 0.395 nmol/L before and now is 0.218 nmol/L.
Range in nmol/L is 0.198 to 0.618.
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>>40147031
uhhh

you either have the number or the units wrong
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>>40147031
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>>40147084
Yeah, I never saw it in nmol/L before either, thats why I told you the reference.
But that's what the paper says:
Free calculated test: 0.395 nmol/L (0.198- 0.618)
Bioavailable test: 5.10 nmol/L (4-14)
Total test: 13.29 nmol/L(8-29)
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>>40147143
Weird units m8
>>
>>40147143
no that's not the issue, the issue is that .395 nmol/L is 11ng/dl

but it makes sense if it was calculated free test.

around 380ng/dl total test before... that was already pretty garbage. what's it at now, 200?
>>
>>40147178
yeah, I get it now, there's something really wrong with those units.
It's probably not nmol/L but something else but who the fucking knows now...

But anyway, its at the bottom at the reference when it used to be right in the middle. Any tips? It doesnt really seems that I should be worried.
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You should probably put your girls on var.
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>>40147178
>>40147256
Those are the right units:
13 nmol/L is 375ng/dl test 4weeks after pct, it was 23 (663ng/dl) before cycle.
>>
>>40147328
not much a fan of the fridge upper body mode. then again, getting her such an ass would be hella worth it. undecided tbqh
>>
>>40147453
Idk I dig her core and torso. Something about that little bit of tummy rounding out while she grinds my cock.

But I feel your indecisiveness. Her boss is on var. what a beef cake damn.
>>
http://swole-supplements.com/store/#!/KODIAK-LABS-BEAR-STRENGTH/p/71957665
Alright guys I'm going to buy it and run it after I'm off tbol do a few weeks.
>>
>>40147495
my point exactly. yours is not even that bad but I've seen var outright ruin female physiques no matter the glorious asses that it may produce. I'd rather have a smaller butt on a slender torso than klokov with severe gyno.
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>>40145642
hectic and yours?

>>40147328
mirin thickness. Funny how she's has the same body as my gf.

i love big asses, i am an ass man
>>
>>40147328
Where are "her" tits?
>>
>>40147519
RIP. but whatever boats your goat m8
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>>40147543
>klokov with severe gyno
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>>40147557
You can sorta spot the gyno
>>
>>40147580
I've seen some shit mate. """girls""" in the loosest sense of the word. shaved buck angel. fucking hell
>>
>That guy at the gym who has huge lats and is obviously trening hard but only does 1/4th ROM on all back exercises

Which of you is this
>>
>>40147568
I mean it's still MENT right lol?
>>
>>40147556
Dude I love big asses too. Or when you lay your girl on her back, and her hips and ass spill out from beneath her.
>>
>>40147659
yeah, technically, somewhat. pay no mind to me, I just detest prohormones personally lol. here's to it not killing you.
>>
>>40147701
There are some decent designer steroids and PHs out there.

Msten is quality.
>>
>>40147701
>>40147726
I mean it can't be any worse than the ugl shit I've been pouring into my body.
>>
>TFW regular discomfort on left side of chest

It's not looking good is it? Getting worried fellas it's been pretty persistent over last few months. Am I going to die
>>
>>40147753
No.

More than likely you have a huge Fucking knot in your back, or lower trap.
>>
>>40147775
Guess I gotta get the ol' lacrosse ball out but are you sure tho?

Really feels like my heart area
>>
>>40147726
Yes, but most are sketchy as fuck is what I am saying. I don't hate on people who use them though, of course not. Being an elitist about injecting dog spit and baby oil into your butt is not the way to go either kek

>>40147744
You'll be fine, lad. I'm just being facetious I guess.
>>
>>40147813
Yes generally in my experience chest discomfort can be indicative of back stress.

If your bp and lipids are gtg then you're probably fine. You could have anxiety.

What compounds are you running?
>>
>>40147813
heart is towards the middle only branching out to the left, and consistent unchanged pain would be a curious thing for actual heart issues. lacrosseball/foamroll your back and traps and go from there.
>>
>>40147832
Just test and dbol right now.

The thing is that I had this "issue" before months ago but I just thought nothing of it when I was offcycle, now that it's still persisting it's kinda concerning me

Guess I should probably get my shit checked doubly so with AAS in the mix.

BP is fine, bloods could be better though
>>
How do you guys take your AI
I have exemestane 25mg tabs
>>
>>40147753
What are you on?
>>
>>40147860
Cut the dbol.
>>
Oh also tbol at 25 mg is pretty shit
>>
>>40147847
Not sure if I'm describing it right but it's just frequent discomfort on the left side

>>40147892
It's only 30mg... But yeah I think I'm just going to get this thing figured out, maybe I have some pre existing problem that was dormant and I'm exasperating with gear
>>
>>40147878
6.25mg e3d
>>40147925
Should've just gone with epistane
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> Great Again Mac
> releases tomorrow
> free bottle of McD's special sauce to first 10,000 at participating locations
>>
>>40147971
sucks to live in europe

MAGA!
>>
>>40147971
SENPAI Ive been a poorfag eating mcdoubles and mc chickens for so long when I tried an actual burger it was amazing
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>>40147971
Should have called it the "bigly Mac" or the "yuge mac"
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>>40147935
>6.25mg e3d
How much test are you on? I feel like I should drop my ai(3mg ED) since I switched to 250mg test.

>>40148004
>bigly
I hate the guy as it is, but seriously what the fuck is bigly and where did he pull that shit from?
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>>40148058
>pull that shit from
Nevermind, apparently it is a real word but Jesus his syntax is fucking weird.
>>
>>40148058
>>40148079
he's saying "big league" but it sounds like "bigly"
>>
Is clen generally safe to use. Was thinking to dose 3 days on and 4 days off.

20 20 40 off x4
40 40 60 off x4 Etc

Are the only concerns heart related and can be controlled via Tuarine and electrolytes?
>>
>>40148106
No he is saying bigly. Look online it's everywhere.
>>
>>40148136
yes

that's the meme

just like "yuge"
>>
>>40148058
Dude I'm so into low doses ATM. Just 350 test npp, I use no AI even when I bump up to 1.5g test.

I need to get back to that. I love how I feel on high test.
>>
>>40147626
Dude the old guys at my gym do this same shit, except they're all dyel and look as if they're about to keel over any second. Sickest pump ever from doing those quarter rep rows and tricep extensions with a red face, tho.

>>40147680
Your girl is an 8/10-8.5/10 when you remove the resting bitch face. Nice. Is that recent?
>>
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>>40148359
Yeah past few days. And I like the bitch face but shenintentionally sends me femdom looking shit.
>>
>>40148377
Var seems to be working well for her. Just pls don't let her go too far on it and keep her looking joocy like that.
>>
>>40140253
what the fuck
looking very similar to jeff seid

- Finn
>>
>>40148446
Except he literally has no back, as you can see in other pics.

> - Finn
Kill yourself with the force of a thousand dying suns.
>>
>>40148480
Who cares he look similar from the front

- Finn
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Guess age
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