/fraud/

FEMALE GLUTES GET ROUGH INJECTION

https://youtu.be/Nin5eqNCo0o

My phone won't do the link properly, but ...

Previous bread

>>40061217

>>40061750
Nice glutes.

Noob here, how much do steroids cost for a first cycle?

>>40061808
Depends on nationality

I spent
$120 for 4x 10ml test e 250mg/ml
$70 for 2x 30ct 25mg pharma aromasin
$80 for 2x 30ct 20mg pharma Nolvadex

Usa here

Kek wills FL a gf

Hello, guys how long does it take a source to usually respond? I sent my payment info on the 15. He said he received it later that day and would let me know once it's picked up.
We'll it's the 18th now still haven't heard anything. How long does it usually take for these guys to pick up your money. I used money gram.
Should I email him inquiring. Should I be worried.

>>40061808
Depends which country you're in. In England: 3 x 10ml vials of Testosterone Enanthate (assuming you're taking 500mg per week) and 1 x box of Nolvadex plus needles/syringes/alcohol wipes will set you back roughly £120 - £140 depending on the quality of the test.

>>40061844
kek

It warms my heart this still happens

>>40061850
If you haven't heard back in a week if be worried. Otherwise you're fine, it's been three days.

>>40061850
They're all different, and it depends on how busy they are. 4 days max though, so if you haven't heard anything tomorrow, drop him another email?

>>40061881
Shit too late alrdy sent a reply inquiring if everything was running smoothly and if there were any problems with money gram on my end. I was as polite as I could be. Fuck does this make me look like an impatient asshole. Will he give me bunk shit as a result or contaminated shit? I'm just being paranoid now.

>>40061927
Yeah .. that's a bit on the paranoid side. As long as you were polite there won't be a problem, you're only asking if there were any problems with moneygram, after all.

>>40061927
He's not gonna do shit to the test.

Asking after a few dsys no response is fine, kinda expeced even.

L A Z Y
A
Z
Y

prev: >>40053993

>>40061747
Fuck. looks like im Average as Fuck

On 800mg of tren/mast E with 250mg of test and my sex drive is less than my first test/dbol cycle. Running .25mg of prami per day for the prolactin but my nips are fine so I doubt its related. Would increasing the test help? Really not sure whats going on here.

File: 1481810755152.jpg (24KB, 486x364px) Image search: [Google]

24KB, 486x364px

>>40061946
>>40061955
Holy fuk I'm gonna pin contaminated shit for my insolence. Save me

>draw 0.6mL of air
>un cap draw syringe
>into the vial ya go
>turn it upside down
>corner of my eye, i see
>the alcohol prep pad
>unopened
>forgot to swab the vial before drawing
>JUST

Well, it was nice knowing you guys

How do I deal with mediocrity?

My mental game is weak and my genetics are worse

File: images (5).jpg (6KB, 262x192px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 262x192px

>>40061989

File: growstrong.gif (974KB, 490x276px) Image search: [Google]

974KB, 490x276px

>>40062012
You have told us your flaws, now what are your goals?

>>40062004
I never swab the vial.

I'd like to see a study on bacterial concentrations on vial stoppers. I doubt there's fucking anything there

File: images (6).jpg (4KB, 250x188px) Image search: [Google]

4KB, 250x188px

>>40062004
RIP Peek

>>40062030
>>40062039
When I get my test what can I do to tell it's not contaminated? Should I boil it? Can you boil it in the vials? Microwave it? Will this ruin it

>>40062025
To not look like shit and to not be a weak fuck

File: tumblr_mc23hpCsrd1r3zat8.jpg (6KB, 250x250px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 250x250px

>>40062055

File: b&.png (46KB, 1030x864px) Image search: [Google]

46KB, 1030x864px

>>40061747

File: 1476345869682.jpg (61KB, 1000x800px) Image search: [Google]

61KB, 1000x800px

>>40062073
J-just wondering.

>>40062039
thumbnail looks like a pig's snout coming out of someone's knee

>>40062063
Ok well if you ask here, the answer you're going to get is STEROIDS or just plain lifting.

And it's not wrong. But you might also need to be getting some mental gains (if I'm right in assuming you're lifting for girls on some level) because improving looks doesn't cure autism (which I'm assuming, given "weak mental gain" and "worse genetics" comments).

Let's start with:
>age
>body fat %
>time spent lifting

In case I fall asleep, just do this also: get a blood test with: test, free test, estrogen (e2), cortisol, LH, FSH at least, and optionally SHBG and liver/thyroid stuff. Then post results of the blood test here. You should also read the reddit wiki on steroids if they end up being appropriate for your situation.

Man no links. Where do I start?

I'm a skeleton btw. would play on lifting natty for like 2 years

File: i3eTxXhf_400x400.jpg (14KB, 400x400px) Image search: [Google]

14KB, 400x400px

>>40062075
>TFW 6'1

>>40062108
>Where do I start?
>>40062103
>reddit wiki on steroids

How long have you lifted? Good to wait 2 years before hopping on.

>>40062097
Don't worry, your test won't be contaminated. Although a good tip, once you've got the oil in the syringe, use a hairdryer on the syringe to warm the oil up. Warm oil = smoother injection

>>40062103
Cannot unsee

>>40062132
Thanks, my trt clinic stores test in a fridge.
Should sternons be stored in the fridge? For what purpose.

>>40062161
I keep mine at room temperature. I can't imagine the clinics fridges being that cold, other wise the test would crash.

>>40062132
>Warm oil = smoother injection
I was meaning to thank whoever posted that tip before. Have started to give my oil a short 30s bath in warm water before pinning (capping the syringe before the bath ofc) and it is great. Can never go back now.

My quads are happy again. Although I always feel like I'm doing it wrong. Glutes are the best even though they seem like they'd be the worst.

>>40062161
>Should sternons be stored in the fridge? For what purpose.

No. For no purpose. Refrigerating them can cause them to "crash" where crystals fall out of the solution. Unless you're talking about HCG and/or oral steroids and/or raw steroids.

>>40062183
Yah, it saved my bacon too. Ive never done thigh injections, always glutes. I might try biceps at some point.

>>40062181
>>40062183
Wow my clinic is fucking me over then.
But maybe it's not that cold. What do clinics think is the good thing about doing this.

>>40062211
Dunno mate, probably just to maximise space or keep them in a sterile environment. Probably both.

>>40062103
I'm already roiding that's the pathetic part

At this point Im lifting for me. Girls have no fucking clue half the time when it comes to this shit.

>age
23
>body fat %
Toohigh% somewhere between 16-18
>time spent lifting
2 years

1 year mostly fucking around.

Ive got the medical shit down. I'm just medicore at best and look like shit because of weird frame.

Weak as fuck too.

Deadlift 415lb
OHP 165

At 6'3" bodyweight of 215. It's kinda pathetic how low my numbers are for roiding and still being somewhat fat. They're improving but slowly.

>>40062235
What are you running?

>>40062211
Do you know that the box they put it in actually cools the vials?

Could also just be an incubator type box that is meant to keep constant temperature and clean air to its contents. If there are UV lights inside it might be a sterilizing box of some sort.

>>40062235
>I'm already roiding
Like, permacruise/TRT? Or bnc? Or cycling?

If you're lifting for yourself, just try to be the best you can be. You have no choice but to work with the hand you're dealt, but where you do have the choice is how much effort you want to put behind it.

If you're striving for some aesthetic that's incompatible with your build/frame, where is that desire coming from?

>>40062253
250mg test e e3d

It's basically my cruise. Bloodwork in a month or two to make sure I'm not dying but I plan on staying here until I'm not weak as fuck.

File: manlet.jpg (377KB, 900x2500px) Image search: [Google]

377KB, 900x2500px

/thread

>>40062273
>even 5'9" getting love
>doomed at 5'8"

File: 5d5e4adb3012449f96a0f6690a45feb9-610xh.jpg (78KB, 610x1003px) Image search: [Google]

78KB, 610x1003px

>>40062270
Maybe just drop to 250mg test per week and add 100 Tren ace EoD? That worked very well for me

>pic related

>>40062291
U gotta not with the quality m8

File: maxresdefault.jpg (76KB, 1280x722px) Image search: [Google]

76KB, 1280x722px

>>40062273

>>40062291
Did your dick die

>>40062326
Nope

But everyone's different

File: IMG_1778.jpg (55KB, 406x451px) Image search: [Google]

55KB, 406x451px

>>40062284
>tfw

At least my chest is developed... r-right /fit/?

>>40062291
I can't afford mental sides atm and pinning even eod sounds awful.

I should be fine on just test. If I cut harder than -500/day I might lower to 250mg/week, but I should be able to get much bigger as time goes on. I've seen natties bigger than me yknow. 215 at 6'3" is kinda skinny if you aren't shredded.

>Like, permacruise/TRT? Or bnc? Or cycling?
Cruising on 250mg test e e3d until I'm satisfied enough with my strength that I'll be okay with cutting. Current goals are 225 push press for 3+ reps and 495 trap bar deadlift for 3+ reps. Once I manage that I'll drop to 125mg/e3d and cut to 10%

>If you're lifting for yourself, just try to be the best you can be. You have no choice but to work with the hand you're dealt, but where you do have the choice is how much effort you want to put behind it.
I am putting in enough work to drive progress. I'm just being a whiny cunt tonight, sucks being shit.

>If you're striving for some aesthetic that's incompatible with your build/frame, where is that desire coming from?
Mostly it's to be more functional athletically. There's a reason the standard wide shoulders, neat hips, forward feet, etc is attractive, and that's because it's functional. It's better for running, jumping, throwing shit, lifting shit.

I have fucked up hips. They're not bad enough I might as well kill myself, but still pretty fucked. The best I can ever do is rectangle. And they're not even functionally good. I have really really shitty hip ROM. I can't even squat to parallel without rounding my back, and that's bone structure, my femoral head smashes into the socket. Add to that the fact my right acetabulum is torqued forward so I'm probably gonna fuck up my SI joint and back while pursuing my hobby. I have pretty bad flat feet, again a bone structure thing, that has to do with the way my first metatarsal is shaped. So ankle mobility is fucked too, and I'll never be light on my feet

And that's just the start of it. Really fucked over since birth

>>40062486
Forgot to link

>>40062269

There's fucking more too.

Because my collar bones are a bit short and my arms are long, I can't fucking bench either. My shoulders impinge and it hurts like shit.

Oh, and I have the worst pubertal gyno Ive ever seen because a shitty jew fucking psychiatrist thought it was a good idea to give powerful antipsychotics to a hormonal depressed teenager.

There was a class action lawsuit about it but they paid off the judge. Seriously, I'll dig up the email I got about it from the law firm. They didn't outright say the judge was paid off but it's easy enough to read between the lines.

I can't afford the fucking surgery so I get to walk around with literal tits. I fucking hate my body, but the fuck am I supposed to do. If I killed myself my Dad, my little brother, my Mom, it would fuck them up so bad.

I'm just tired of getting shit on when I didn't do anything.

File: Screenshot_20170118-023958.png (784KB, 2560x1440px) Image search: [Google]

784KB, 2560x1440px

>>40062531
The medication was risperdal.

Probably being a bit presumptuous to say the judge was corrupt. But it's still a shit situation.

File: 20140417_144043.jpg (2MB, 3264x2448px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 3264x2448px

>>40062556
Here's a picture of my titties from a few years ago

>not on steroids
>already have gyno, bacne, and a shitty hairline (widow's peak)

Do I even have anything to lose at this point fellas?

>>40062576
Worse acne and gyno

>tfw you venting kills the thread

>>40062685
It happens.

File: ralox.png (92KB, 713x565px) Image search: [Google]

92KB, 713x565px

>>40062566
>I can't afford the fucking surgery so I get to walk around with literal tits. I fucking hate my body, but the fuck am I supposed to do. If I killed myself my Dad, my little brother, my Mom, it would fuck them up so bad.
>>40062685
Didn't kill the thread. I just like to take really long showers after pins no matter how late it is.

Sorry to focus on just one aspect, but check out raloxifene. Get some pharma stuff (Evista?).

I'm sure you've heard of it before (as you are quite a thorough presenter/narrator, my dude), but pic related shows ralox is the real deal. I can't imagine your gyno won't see at least some improvement if you run a minimum of 60mg ED for at least 3 mo.

That legal stuff sounds like a huge disappointment. What sucks about that particular statute of limitation is that usually children (at 18 and below at the very least) do not have autonomy over their healthcare expenditures and are thereby unable to get the information/diagnoses needed, much less file/afford a lawsuit about it in between classes and studying.

Do you read philosophy/religious texts at all? Doing so might alleviate (even if temporarily) some of the body-centric anxiety by elevating your thoughts to different planes.

>>40062902
>I just like to take really long showers after pins no matter how late it is.

I get called weird for doing that, nice to know I'm not the only one

>>40062920
Thats a nice euphemism for whacking it

>>40062902
Good post guy

File: you.png (66KB, 218x150px) Image search: [Google]

66KB, 218x150px

>cutting since november
>now need 3kg of pure fat gone and I'll be happy enough @ 10% BF, since it's that faggot shit lowerback fat that's remaining, and even 1kg of extra fat is absolutely insane when concentrated there
>actually stalling a bit now and felt so weak recently at work and now I just ate at maintenance (near 3k cals)

I dunno if I should take a breather and wait for my 2 week holiday to just do a 1500 deficit PSMF or maybe DNP if TM restocks it anytime in this lifetime.

>>40062938
Actually, odd story, I have trouble sleeping, so I listen to UltraHypnosis' guided sleep recordings on YouTube. I was scrolling through and I find their "requests" playlist, and they have a "Hands Free Orgasm" hypnosis recordings. There's no explicit sex talk, and you don't cum or even get a boner, but what DOES happen is, once you're going deeper into the trance every time she clicks her fingers, is that you reach the point where she basically tells you to cum while she's clicking like crazy, and you get these overwhelming waves of what I can only relate to the buzz you get after smoking weed, and it hits you over and over again. Then she puts you to sleep. It's comfy as fuck. Best "not sex" I've ever had. If anyone's trying it, its best to listen to her induction first so you're actually open to the hypnosis. Fun way to waste 20mins.

So how long after my last pin of the cycle should I go back to training like a natty?
Inb4 >cycle

>>40063043
kek no matter how swole you get the autism never leaves you.

>>40061987
You aren't taking anything for estrogen dude you're going to have high as fuck e2 doesn't matter how low prolactin in is your dick doesn't have tits.

File: download (4).jpg (4KB, 150x144px) Image search: [Google]

4KB, 150x144px

>>40063163
You're not wrong

>>40063304
>high tren
>high eq
>high sdrol

how the fuck are you managing bp? i'd stroke the fuck out unless i dosed telmisartan or bled myself at the end of each month

>>40063326
My tests are always fine so ... I figured I was just one of 'those' people that reacted well, I haven't looked into iTunes depth.

>>40063363
>I haven't looked into iTunes depth.
word?

>>40063371
Fucking autocorrect on my phone, sorry!

*I haven't looked into it in depth*

How much dbol/winstrol do you need to cause irrepairable damage to roasties?

Can 10ccs of winstrol suspension mixed in a cocktail or any dessert cause enough damage?

>>40063689
the hormone would likely need to be sustained for virilization, and the taste of orals is pretty bad, especially if it were liquified

File: 5523684+_d176bea366e690dd6151b5303006f3ba.jpg (7KB, 225x225px) Image search: [Google]

7KB, 225x225px

>>40061747
I need some advice from you fraud fags. Are there any drugs or whatever that will get rid of my natty gyno? I'm 18 so my doctor said that it should just clear up on its own but I've started to freak out today because my left nipple started hurting like a motherfucker when i woke up. To clarify I'm low body fat and i don't have any breast tissue, my nipples just have a small hard gland or whatever it's called. Please help me bros, I really don't want to be a freak or have surgery.

I miss anons asking what type of results they'd get running a Nolva only cycle.

What happened to this thread? What killed it?

>>40063814
Nolvadex took my puberty gyno down massively

>>40063814
>>40062902

>>40062576
Be aware that even if your hairline is currently past the point of no return it can look even worse after roids. I was clipping it weekly anyway but by the end of the week it now looks so shit I might have to up the cutting frequency.

File: 1311604579881.gif (1MB, 346x259px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 346x259px

>>40062103
>improving looks doesn't cure autism
yet /fit/ still exists after all these years

>>40063689
Not gonna work. Still share your devious plan pls, humor us.

>>40061747
Guy from the Netherlands here. I've been working out for 4 years and I want to jump on steroids. However I have no clue what a good start is, and how to acquire it in this country.

Does anybody know a way that could help me?

>>40063834
it was 7am est as of the time of your post dude

we're sleeping or heading to work

>>40064248
Hmm ..There never used to be a "dead" dead period. Although desu most of the activity was manletgains talking shit (Australian time) and people coming in to rip him to shreds.

Hey guys I'm 18 and want to use HGH to grow a little taller. I'm 1.80, 68kg and %8 bodyfat, how much should I use and for how long for mussel and height gainz. HGH looks too complicated compared with roids.

>>40064281
That's not going to happen unless you're filthy rich

>>40064082
Go to eroids and look at the top 10 websites that deliver to your country/region. Websites are a little over priced but if you don't know where else to get them from ...

A good start is 500mg per week of Testosterone Enanthate for 10 - 12 weeks.

>>40064281
It's not complicated. Just keep the vials in the fridge and watch this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS08GdBfMZc

File: 1478806978937.jpg (80KB, 766x960px) Image search: [Google]

80KB, 766x960px

>tfw spent the entire night from midnight until about 5:30 AM crippled with pain and shitting my brains out
>food poisoning the SECOND DAY of my mandatory attendance classes

just FUCK my SHIT up F A M

time to try and fucking sleep for two hours before class and hope this pain goes away

>only down 1.4lbs

I'll take that at least. Hopefully stuffing my face and continuing my surplus doesn't make me blow my intestines out more.


>>40059771
visiting some senpai over spring break because I have no other plans, taking qtczgf with

Dallas area

>>40060929
thanks, I was leaning towards ACE but I'll look more into ncsa.

What happens if you run out of money and can't finish your cycle of cycle off?

File: 1483122259712.png (66KB, 554x400px) Image search: [Google]

66KB, 554x400px

>>40064444
Nice quads, broski

I'd start PCT if you can't afford to keep going.

Will I be OK jabbing on Wednesday night instead of Thursday this week?

Taking .5 mg of prami and I feel like death 10 hours a day. Even at that much I still have very little sex drive and difficulty cumming but I doubt its estro related since I'm on my cruise dose.

What would be a comparable dose of Caber? Not sure if I should even bother with .25 e3d or go straight to .5

My doctor put me on Remeron for sleep. Anyone have experience with this? Will it fuck up muh rons?

>>40064513

depends on the ester

>>40064575
Test e and deca. I know they're long esters, but I like to religiously jab mon and thurs

>>40064565
Fucking hate that shit, take 15mg before bed and spend the entire next day like a zombie. Apparently it's an antidepressant too? I suppose with it increasing your appetite, it would be good for bulking, and it reduces prolactin, so it's good for tren gyno.

>>40064589
Yeah, that's what I'm worried about. You think this shit will kill my motivation to train? My sleep is pretty fucked, but I don't want to be a zombie.

>Heading to the locker rooms
>qtpi 18 y/o walks out of womens room holding phone one
>snaps picture of her ass in leggings
>reminder that I'm still not aesthetic enough for hundreds of instagram likes
>*orders more test*

What is wrong with me

>>40061747
>tfw when king of manlets.

>>40064534
do not go straight to .5 m8. bother with half that for a bit and see how you respond to it.

>>40064614
It might do, it depends on your attitude desu. You might be ok on it, but if it affects you as it did me, you'll be very tired and not really want to do anything at all. I still worked out, of course. It just became a chore rather than something i enjoyed.

You guys take anything for your heart while on a blast?

>>40064313
40 units of Aviva 13.3mg is like 44 usd in my country. I can buy like 3 of em, just curious how much I should use to grow taller.

>>40064657
I'll try it and see how I feel. If I go into zombie mode the shit is getting flushed.

ordered gear from a new guy like a month ago

that shit didn't arrive yet, just waiting for a letter from the customs now

fuck this shit

>>40064707
Best way to do it!

>>40064703
Or I can buy 72IU 24mg Humatrope for 155 usd, it's pretty expensive for our local currency but not as usd.

Did my first ever inject yesterday with 500mg test e, for how long will my ass be sore and will I be sore like this every time?

File: 82083d167cfdd465f22d38d2846b6c70.jpg (121KB, 640x852px) Image search: [Google]

121KB, 640x852px

>>40064756
I've got a lilly humatrope pen. I still use insulin needles to pin though because I never the dosage right, the pens leak sometimes too

File: 1484422113072.jpg (129KB, 739x702px) Image search: [Google]

129KB, 739x702px

I got 200g protein in 30 mins from shakes yesterday
Not recommended

>>40064434
>tfw youre posting with people RIGHT NOW who dont atleast have ACE

File: 791e472641a8496cdbe69401be81c8fa.jpg (170KB, 640x852px) Image search: [Google]

170KB, 640x852px

>>40064756

File: 1482534549354.jpg (27KB, 705x696px) Image search: [Google]

27KB, 705x696px

>>40064779
>I got 200g protein in 30 mins from shakes yesterday

kek

>>40064772
Ohh you're also Turkish. Whatsapp veya herhangi bir yol üzerinden konuşabilir miyiz sana uyarsa pek bilgim yok HGH konusunda?

>>40064690
Cardio

>>40064769
>how long will I be sore?
A few days
>will this happen every time?
No

>>40064772
>not legit kigs

>>40064690
Coq10
Niacin

Keep bq down, do lots of cardio

File: U6HgGHU.jpg (68KB, 600x739px) Image search: [Google]

68KB, 600x739px

Wew. Sandra prikkner or whatever the fuck her name is must have moved from LA because she's always at my gym now.

>>40064813
Thank you sir

>>40064782
that looks uncomfortable

>>40064796
Nah, dude. I'm Scottish.

>>40064796
by that logic I would be magyar, russian, german and of course chinese too kek

>>40064839
Oh shit my mistake. So, is Humatrope legit? How much would I have to use to grow in height?

>>40064929
Depends really, if your full epiphyseal growth plates have closed, you might notice a little vertical growth, if not, then obviously you'll grow more. They don't usually fully close until you're 21 though. At an educated guess, 4 - 6ius ED for 6 months would do the job, if the job can be done. I'd consider taking small amounts of Oxyandrolone alongside it as well. I'm assuming this is hypothetical though as you're taking thousands to maintain that level GH for 6 months.>>40064929

Oh god this fucking DHHS nominee wants to regulate the health supplement industry. Looking forward to prescription multivitamins, fish oil, and preworkout.

File: 1478642464588.jpg (110KB, 848x480px) Image search: [Google]

110KB, 848x480px

>>40065632
>now ill have to order fish oil from china too
>with 40% tariffs

Based trump

File: 13551663_530223920502932_1358379510_n.jpg (38KB, 480x480px) Image search: [Google]

38KB, 480x480px

>>40064821

lel

I usually go to the gym in the afternoon, but decided to go before work today. This fucking girl (pic related) was there working out with her boyfriend. We follow each other on insta and are constantly liking each others shit but I didn't want to make it weird with her boyfriend there.

A few hours later at work I get a DM from her "hey were you at LA this morning?"

How do I reply to this shit? I would impregnate this girl given the chance to fug

File: tumblr_of1lphGnDj1r5nqzoo1_1280.jpg (276KB, 1024x1280px) Image search: [Google]

276KB, 1024x1280px

>>40065688
Make a fake profile and sell her bf "roids" but it's actually estrogen injectables and estradiol pills. He'll become a grill and she'll dump him then you swoop in and coat her sugar walls. Devilish.

>>40065669
Yay. More heavy metal and industrial waste laden supplements. Furreal dough these nominees are straight up scary.

File: images (2).jpg (8KB, 299x169px) Image search: [Google]

8KB, 299x169px

>>40065669
>40%

File: tumblr_oifn3gP60v1ugfjkyo1_1280.jpg (101KB, 750x750px) Image search: [Google]

101KB, 750x750px

>>40065688
Wait does she do porn? She's friends with Kaden Nguyen on insta and he does a good bit of porn/nude modeling photos for girls.

>>40065748
Not as far as I know. She does do some nude-ish modeling though.

I'm pretty sure she'd down to cheat so I might reply something like "yeah I saw you, I was in a rush before work but I'll be there tomorrow morning too"

File: 1475380366621.jpg (637KB, 1071x1068px) Image search: [Google]

637KB, 1071x1068px

>>40062902
>I can't imagine your gyno won't see at least some improvement if you run a minimum of 60mg ED for at least 3 mo.

Imagine it, because I have. Pharma ralox, 100 pills 60mg. There's 18 left and no change at all. It's fucking crushing. I was really hoping it would help at least a little bit.

>Do you read philosophy/religious texts at all? Doing so might alleviate (even if temporarily) some of the body-centric anxiety by elevating your thoughts to different planes.

It's the only way I can cope when things get really bad. I have a pretty bad nihilism streak.


Thanks for responding to my whining. It helps. I'm gonna stop now though, too much focus on negatives.

File: tumblr_o0zzr2p0ni1tfn2ano1_1280.jpg (277KB, 960x1280px) Image search: [Google]

277KB, 960x1280px

>>40065775
She looks like she'd be down if you had some money or were black.

>>40065786
I had pubertal gyno and got rid of it with Nolvadex, 3 x 20mg tabs a day until it was gone. If I remember correctly I bought 3 boxes and went through about 2 and a half. These days I take 0.25 letro EOD or .5 arimidex Mon/Fri on cycle that keeps it away, B6 for Tren tits. If I didn't, even at 11% bf it would come back in force. I'm not saying the same thing will work for you but it helped me so ... Yeah.

>>40063689
Get ahold of some tren e. Figure out a way to inject her without anyone knowing. That will fuck her up for life.

>>40065720
Some 9f them are okay.
Alot of tgem are retarded though

>ben carson

>>40065723
Im sorry I couldnt hear you over my FREEDOM
Try again after friday

>>40064779
>200g protein in 30 mins
10 scoops cmon!

>>40061808
Mine cost 400 euro for test 500, bold 600, 16 weeks, pharma asin and nolva, 7000IU HCG, needles and syringes.

File: download (3).jpg (2KB, 160x169px) Image search: [Google]

2KB, 160x169px

>>40065959

The "freedom" meme

its this easy for you people

>some hot chick from insta
>has a bf
>she started lifting at my recently
>p sure i can fug her

really? how do you people look?

File: 15698001_176704772805460_2992503781582513554_n.jpg (26KB, 480x480px) Image search: [Google]

26KB, 480x480px

>>40066143
My pick up line. Works 100% of the time.

File: 1473146359857s.jpg (4KB, 111x125px) Image search: [Google]

4KB, 111x125px

I cruise on 250mg test but it seems that 250 is right about when I get estro sides. Would something like .25mg of armidex EOD be low enough not to crash my test? Should I go lower? Need a starting point.

Don't really want to reduce the test any lower since I've been here for like a year now, can imagine it would feel very good.

>>40066263
>not to crash my test?

meant estro, obviously

but yeah, walking around with puffy nips when not on cycle is not something I want to be dealing with.

>>40066263
Ai is pretty subjective but Id start lower
Although right now Im at 200mg test and .25 adex ed

>>40066263
>>40066275
.25mg eod is a lot for being just when you start getting high e2 sides.. it's hard to dose it much lower than that, but if you can, sure

the actual best thing to do is lower the test because if you're getting high e2 sides, you very very likely are still above supra physiological for your cruise dose which isn't a good idea

if you insist on doing that, asin would be better than adex though... like eat a pill every pin day/maybe even once a week, which you can't do on adex due to the rebound

>>40066489
>>40066494

only insist on armidex since its what I have and I'd rather not get other stuff before I know exactly what I need. I suppose I can cut the pill into 4 and take .125mg EOD for like 2 weeks and then get another test.

File: germanfeels.jpg (141KB, 548x769px) Image search: [Google]

141KB, 548x769px

>>40061747
>tfw used to be a fat lanklet
>lost 10 kg, looked pretty lean
>tfw in my first real bulk right now and no longer lean

life is but a rollercoaster, though no one can really fix my shit face and hair loss

>>40064820
>Coq10
Assuming this is for the bp maintenance? From what I've read, it does no favors for your lipids (but I do see you listed Niacin there which should mitigate that).

>>40065786
>I was really hoping it would help at least a little bit.
Damn, sorry to hear it.

Glad to hear that you're into philosophy/religion, though. It's an investment that will pay great dividends as you progress through life and can soften the mental impact of any obstacles you encounter whether they be internal or external.

>>40066821
>no one can fix my hair loss

Fixing hairloss has been the topic for a big chunk of at least two of the past 5 threads. Check em out.

In short, PSO, Saw Palmetto, keto shampoo, scalp exercises, micro needling, peppermint oil, lavender oil, rosemary oil, and if it's really bad then minox too.

>>40066850
thy m8, gonna check it out later

>>40066850
Yeah long term high bp is bad
If youre b&c you gotta monitor it

>>40066527
Thats basically what I do
Put the pill in a bowl and shatter it with a knife

File: IMG_20161220_224755.jpg (151KB, 1000x1545px) Image search: [Google]

151KB, 1000x1545px

200lbs and getting fatter by the day c'mon

>>40066850
>In short, PSO, Saw Palmetto, keto shampoo, scalp exercises, micro needling, peppermint oil, lavender oil, rosemary oil, and if it's really bad then minox too.
How much does this shit even cost? Might try it out if I'm going bald in the future, except I don't want to spend lots of money on it

>>40066494
What do you mean rebound? Not him but currently on trt 240 test c a week by doc. I have an anastrazole 1mg script. He told me to take one pill 3 days after injection once a week.
However a /fitizen told me to use a pill cutter cut it in half and spread it to two times a week same total dosage.
Question is what's the point of cutting g the pill 4 times? I feel like 2 half a is good enough. Advice?

File: topprimordialkek.jpg (64KB, 445x454px) Image search: [Google]

64KB, 445x454px

>>40062075
that picture

File: giphy (2).gif (2MB, 300x259px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 300x259px

Sup degenerates?
Been in the hospital a few days and just got home.
My sincerest apologies to anyone who has placed a recent order as I have not shipped out anything in probably a week now. Everything will go out soon.
Stay classy /fraud/

>>40066930
PSO and keto shampoo is stupid cheap and seems to work well enough to stop me from going bald at a gram of tren and mast, so thats nice. Saw Palmetto is kind of pricey here but I'm sure in the US you can order it off of amazon cheaply.

The other stuff is kind of anecdotal AFAIK so if you have extra cash you can try it.

Do I need to frontload caber? Also is .5mg/wk enough to start off or should I just go straight to a mg?

Don't really want to crash my prolactin but nobody I've talked to seems to get any sides from caber specifically.

File: TNrpz3wE.jpg (42KB, 400x400px) Image search: [Google]

42KB, 400x400px

>>40067027
cool I'll make sure to buy PSO en keto shampoo when I'm adding mast later on. I have no idea how my hair will react to DHT derivatives

>>40066996
>Been in the hospital a few days and just got home
what happened?

File: 1483085506252.jpg (146KB, 842x1234px) Image search: [Google]

146KB, 842x1234px

>>40067091
Really bad ulcers. Lost a lot of blood. No bueno. Dr's are still running tests to determine the cause but my white blood cell count was through the roof indicating some sort of infection.

>>40067365
Is this related to sterling use...? Contaminated sternons?

>>40066930
Good waist genetics, but the rest???

I hope this is natty yes?

File: 1480032883165.jpg (73KB, 1080x834px) Image search: [Google]

73KB, 1080x834px

Somebody post the webm of that slut in tight revealing shorts doing tricep kickbacks

>>40067365
>supplier getting blood cancer
talk about negative PR huh

>>40067048
Higher doses of caber really help with gh production so it wouldn't hurt to frontload it. Ive run really high doses with no problems before other than uncomfortable boners.

>>40067365
That sounds like it could possibly be Ulcerative Colitis. I hope not as around 5% of people that have Ulcerative Colitis develop colon cancer.

>>40068111
How do you get shit like this.

File: 1481750526839.jpg (14KB, 407x384px) Image search: [Google]

14KB, 407x384px

tren ace is so fucking nice holy shit.

i want to fucking murder everyone. i feel like a fucking king

>>40067365
H. pylori related? Is that one of the tests they had done? If not, you should look into it.

There are some herbal cures for it like mastic gum (chewed or tablets) that you might want to try out in conjunction with whatever is prescribed to you.

Hope you feel better soon!

>>40067881
Probably all of those unapproved meme SARMs.

>>40068119
I dropped out of school at a young age and made up for it by obsessively educating myself on things I'm fascinated about, like illnesses, diseases and their treatments, theology and philosophy etc

>>40061747
Is this chart for black folk?

>>40067365
Yeesh. Get better soon cap.

What's up, everyone else?

>>40066952
>What do you mean rebound?
Has to do with adex being a competitive AI as opposed to asin, which is suicidal. Look these terms up and you will understand.

>>40066952
>Question is what's the point of cutting g the pill 4 times? I feel like 2 half a is good enough. Advice?
Has to do with the half life of adex, I'd guess. Don't know too much about adex, but look up the half life (or, elimination rate) of adex and it might give you some insight as to why the anon told you to take it more frequently. If it has a very short half life, taking a big dose once would not give you as stable estrogen levels as taking half the dose taken some time apart.

>>40068215
I think he was asking how do people get UC.

But cool that you're interested in theology and philosophy. I was really devoted to those topics all throughout college and after, and am now trying to broaden my horizons by learning about more material things like the body and chemistry.

Do you love Platonism?

>>40068215
No I meant like how do you get the disease.
Cool story tho. >>40068226

If I had a fasting glucose of 80 it is impossible that I have diabetes right?

>>40068258
Oh.

>>40068119
No one really knows for sure but the theory is it's an autoimmune condition.

>>40068258
I'm doing similar, but in reverse, I'm learning about philosophical and theological concepts and ways of thinking now. I really like the idea of Platonism, it's a kind of sweeping idea that asks more questions than it answers and opens more door into more exploratory thinking. Those are my favourite!

>>40068258
46 hours, damn so split my 1mg pill into 4 parts and take one Monday, Wednesday, friday, and Sunday?

File: 1463021202080.jpg (45KB, 600x532px) Image search: [Google]

45KB, 600x532px

Dicked around too much over Holidays which was incidentally a month or so after I ended my first test cycle. Kept a lot of gains, and am roughly the same weight but I gained considerable fat around my mid section and love handles area which I'm assuming can be attributed to higher estrogen during the period after the cycle.

So here's the Q, assuming I hop back on for another 10-12 week Test cycle and eat perhaps maintenance to 500 above maintenance, can I expect some of that estrogen related fat gain to go? Or is that expectation dumb as fuck and I should continue cutting down a bit before hopping back on ?

Been looking into this "Body recomp" jazz in conjunction with your vanilla test E cycle and that's looking like what I'm wanting to do.

>>40068494
Perhaps I should clarify what I meant by "dicked around" Meant to say that I dicked around with my diet, ate too much crap food and didn't exercise too much because local gyms around home were a bit expensive.

I was up to 25mg (ugl so probably like 12.5 for real) of asin per day with test at 500mg + dbol at 40mg

now that I've dropped the dbol, I crashed my e2 and my joints are fucked with 12.5
eod

fucking dbol

Non United Statian here. When you say 6'7 you mean 6.7 feet or 6 feet 7 inches?

>>40068665
six feet seven inches, or 79 inches

also 200cm

>>40068346
>sweeping idea that asks more questions than it answers
This sort of feeling/vibe will die down as you get into the thinkers who fleshed Platonism out a little more. If you're interested in the writings of church doctors, you will find Augustine to be very elucidating on the explanatory power of Platonism.

If you want to stick to the pure philosophy, you'll find this resolution in Plotinus and Proclus.

What are you reading atm? Doesn't have to be specific, more like "what has your interest at this stage of your learning."

>>40068683
thanks b0ss

t. 182cm Master Race

>>40068494
Unfortunately it's very unlikely you'll lose your love handles on a test cycle. You could get absurdly lean but that would mean sacrificing whatever muscle you already have and starting all over again. I think var would make a noticable difference though, around 60 - 70mgs a day.

>>40068693
>his height in feet doesn't start with a 6

File: enough.jpg (4KB, 219x230px) Image search: [Google]

4KB, 219x230px

>>40068713
So close yet so far away

>>40068697
I'll look into some var. Had been considering winny but the liver toxicity concerns me so if var isn't quite as harsh I might just have to get ahold of some.

ty for response.

>>40068697
So, I've been thinking about var. Price isn't a huge concern to me, and neither is purity or it being faked with winny (found a source who got it tested at 96% by jano for whatever that's worth).

What does concern me is how it apparently can fuck your lipids to hell. Lots of threads on bodybuilding forums where guys shock their docs with dangerously low HDL and super high LDL, despite taking preventative measures like omega acid containing oils, niacin, etc. Seems like the problem gets worse as dose increases too.

25mg seems like it's safe on lipids, but give no results
50mg seems like a happy medium
75mg seems like where good results start to happen, but also where lipids start getting rekt

(all of these are in an about 6-8 week timeline from the anecdotes I've read)

What's your experience with it? Do you do a "lipid PCT" or something after the cycle or do you just try and keep it under control while on var?

>>40068378
Sorry - I'm really not familiar with adex dosing but that may be right. Check out the reddit wiki on steroids or just search different forums for peoples' dosing schedule with adex.

>>40068779
>25mg
>no results

Depends on what you're using it for.

>>40068823
True - and there's no guarantee that the people online reporting their anecdotes have legit var. Given the way some of them type and seem to take care of their health in general, I wouldn't be surprised if they've done no due diligence in trying to verify that they're not taking winstrol.

>>40068378
yes, adex is taken eod or you use a different AI

>>40068685
Thanks for the recommendations, i'll definitely try to read as much as possible from the authors. I like to get a sense of who they were as people and I find that by reading as much of their work as I can get ahold of, I can find natural evolutions in thought patterns prompted by life experience. At the moment I'm reading Meditations by Marcus Aurelius and The Moral Sayings by Publius Syrus. I'm looking for anything written by Heraclitus as I collect the books I read whether I feel they expand my mind at the time or not, as if I've learned anything in life it's that when your perception changes, things can take on new meanings or you can get more out of them, or both. It's always nice to meet someone interested in the same areas!

>>40068863
They probably are mistaken, given that legit Anavar is relatively easy on lipids and Winstrol is notoriously harsh on them. I don't know why someone would want to take more than 50mg of var anyway, enjoy your calf cramps.

>>40068823
Underdosing could also be responsible for the idea that 25mg var is not worth it for body building purposes. The 2005 USC study showed pretty good mass/strength gains on 20mg legit var for 6 weeks.

How do you usually incorporate it into your schedule?

>>40068894
Var never gave me lipid issues. Ran 50mg for a few months

>>40068892
>I don't know why someone would want to take more than 50mg of var anyway, enjoy your calf cramps.

Thanks for the reference. I get really easily swayed by anecdotals because I assume that everyone has a common standard of diligence and risk tolerance.

https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/1ozurh/holy_cholesterol_my_advice_for_all_the_beginners/

This guy was running 100mg, which I started to think was reasonable based on stuff I read on other forums. But I think I'll just try and start with 50mg for 4 weeks and when I get bloods at week 5 I can either decide to maintain the dose or cut it down to 25mg for the remaining 4 weeks.

>>40068890
/fit/izen and /lit/izen, and a fraud trip at that.

truly a time to be alive. i applaud

>>40068747
Var is nowhere as harsh, but if toxicity concerns you, there's always TUDCA

>>40068779
>Jano still doing mass specs

kek

I've never really used var, the two bottles I've purchased at different times in the past have been straight winny and 75% winny, so I don't have a good point of reference. I would say from the observational and anecdotal perspective ive had is that 50 to 70 as you said, seems to be the range to focus on to balance good results with few sides.

>>40068947
this guy in the link is a blockhead and 100 is overkill for most

File: 1484623581259.jpg (47KB, 369x368px) Image search: [Google]

47KB, 369x368px

>>40068955

>>40068894
To me its main benefits are:
>muscle sparing/lypolisis
>joint health/injury recover

I would take 10mg morning/evening to keep levels stable on a cut or 20mg morning/evening for a 4 week stretch while doing rehab work. I personally got good aggression from it so 50mg pre-workout was pretty legit too.

People whine about var not knowing that it works best in a synergistic role rather than as a "workhorse" compound.

File: IMG_1331.jpg (111KB, 659x659px) Image search: [Google]

111KB, 659x659px

Leaving my girl tonight.

Said trying to make things work between us was a lie, I was just being told what I wanted to hear.

The home life sucks. I want to chilland hang out with a person that has zero interest or desire or passion for me. She admitted this.

Her only gambit for me staying is "you live here". She refuses to try and be good. She said "it's pretty fucking obvious I just want to be alone."

One last time she gets what she wants. I'm probably leaving to chill with CHEM.

>>40068998
all shitposting aside, do you actually lurk /lit/ or are you just well-read by happenstance, as part of cocoon mode or such?

>>40069017
good choice m8. also as always mirin

How much of a risk am I taking if I don't have any aromasin or extra nolva to take during a test only cycle (first one, 500/week) to control estrogen?

Also, is there any extra risk to my balls if [spoiler] they are already small [/spoiler]

File: 1278652845372.jpg (62KB, 294x294px) Image search: [Google]

62KB, 294x294px

>>40069017
>I'm probably leaving to chill with CHEM

>>40069041
r u retarded.

what do you think will happen? You get gyno, acne, r9k feels and ugly bloat.

>>40069041
I never used my aromasin on my cycle, just never had any sides. I'm two months post cycle and I feel great, almost better than I did pre cycle.

that means jack shit though, ALWAYS best to have it on hand. Personally I wouldn't do something like this without having the stuff on hand.

>>40069029
It's all cocoon mode, I've never been on /lit/. I lurk /tv/ because I love all things movie and tv related, from types of cameras and different editing processes to behind the scenes politics and news on upcoming projects and productions, as well as the very rare but wonderful film debates. I also like how all film is subjective.

>>40069091
forgot trip, bimb

>>40069088
>>40069091
Thanks, that's what I thought.
I asked for it but it didn't come, now I'm sitting here with test and enough nolva for pct.

>>40069131
yolo, gyno is asthetic afterall

File: 1474793712-nazillette24.jpg (102KB, 680x757px) Image search: [Google]

102KB, 680x757px

*guys serious question ahead*

Private doctor told me to bring bloods for unrelated matters, but i'm taking just some test now and don't want to come off right now, how would the bloods look going down to just 100mg a week or so? Still very obvious? Could pass?

>>40068890
>I like to get a sense of who they were as people
>natural evolutions in thought patterns prompted by life experience

Excellent. Porphyry has a good life-sketch of his teacher (Plotinus), and I think there's a fair amount of biographical info on Proclus. Plato remains a bit of a mystery. I think learning about the people can help, but in the end, the worth of the great ones shines through their writings no matter what.

Have you looked into the academic skeptics? Might be good to start with pyrrhonian skeptics first and then go on to academic skepticism.

Something about your interest in stoicism and keeping yourself open to different ideas makes me think that you'd enjoy their thoughts.

If you want the best bang for your buck, check out De Natura Deorum by Cicero. You'll get a good primer on two main schools of Hellenistic thought (epicureanism and stoicism) as well as skepticism.

>>40068926
Thanks jerry, you've given me confidence.

>>40068978
Yeah, going back and reading it now I can't take him that seriously.

>>40069007
Yeah the lypolisis benefits are most attractive to me. I am intending to use it in the capacity of a cut assistant. The properties of increasing AR expression (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10443664) are most interesting to me as I suspect that's part of the mechanism by which it stimulates fat loss so markedly.

Wasn't so aware of the joint health/injury recovery effects, thanks for that insight (as well as the dosing recommendations for those purposes). Right now I'm thinking of 50mg for 6 weeks with 25 in the am and 25 pre-workout.

>>40069017
Hope it works out in a way that leaves you with some peace of mind.

>>40069158
What's he requesting be tested? And what have you been on previous to now (and how long)?

>>40069191
>What's he requesting be tested? And what have you been on previous to now (and how long)?

Recently just test in more and less dose, so I could immediately just lower the dose and do the analysis in like 2 or 3 weeks easily, since i should go like in one month or so.

Pretty much everyting, hemogram, hormones, cholesterol, liver and some urine stuff.

>>40069226
If he tests gonadotropins (FSH, LH) they will quite easily show him that you're on something suppressive.

File: IMG_1451.gif (1MB, 800x450px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 800x450px

>>40069017
Let's see how long it lasts this time...

Last time was 12 whole hours, right? You got this bimbsie.

>>40069281
It has to be like this. Our relationship is is a corpse.

>>40069191
Thank you!! I brushed outskirts of Pyrrhonian skeptics when I was reading into Immanuel Kant, but again, thank you for all the recommendations!! It's going to be a very enlightening next few weeks!

>Forever selecting images of store fronts

>>40069274
I don't think that's there, desu i'm reading it and don't know if there is even the hormonal panel, is mostly cholesterol, liver, tumors stuff, triglycerides, catecholamine and antibodies or something like that.

>>40069094
my nigga

do lurk /lit/ occasionally, they are a bunch of armchair thinkers and essentially r9k with a library pass but some of the recommendations and discussions made me the man i am today, for what it's worth

>>40062556
Doesn't read like the judge was paid off at all.

You're just a sadcunt.

File: 1467581003385.jpg (340KB, 1200x1800px) Image search: [Google]

340KB, 1200x1800px

>>40067735
>>40067881
Not related to steroids or any other drugs that I can think of. I will have more tests tomorrow.
I'm only cruising on test and memek anyway. I doubt something would have just popped up out of nowhere.
>>40068111
Ya probably uc related.
>>40068147
>H. pylori related?
I think they are gonna test for this.
>>40068239
Thanks for the well wishes guys!

>>40069493
was shitposting, but keep us tuned about what's up. as much as i loathe most namefags, you are actually fun to have around in moderation kek

>>40069017

Why do you still hide your head bro

File: 1469807322948.jpg (199KB, 685x1280px) Image search: [Google]

199KB, 685x1280px

>>40069516
Awwww I <3 u 2 anon!

>>40069359
kek, we find enlightenment in the strangest of places, I guess! I might have a little peek in /lit/ later on and see what's what.

>>40069493
Methylprednisolone, if you can get ahold of it, will treat it very well, the downside is it's a corticosteroid, as all the other treatments are.

>>40069642
don't overdo it faget

>>40069686
take everything they say with a grain of salt, but late at night some life-changing insights are wont to happen

>>40069295
And you're both necrophiliacs

>>40069493
Pls live. You're a good guy, memek666 shill and all.

I was reading up about trannies and apparently estrogen changes fat distribution (breasts and lower torso). I know nothing on biology but does taking testosterone change the distribution in a similar way?

Thoughts on deca only cycle? I've been talking with a dude on fitmisc who insists it's

-Easy on the hair
-Effectively replaces testosterone function


Check out this thread from early 2000s

over a dozen people mention their deca only cycles, a few people say they have "SLIGHT" deca dick, that it's "probably nothing". sounds psychological, i feel like if their pecker was offline from decadick they wouldn't be using terms like "slight". most don't even mention deca dick though. almost all of the cases of deca dick i'm seeing are people who mix it with test... yet everyone seems to think you should still blast test with it... weird.

in nearly ALL anecdotal stories i've found online, people use deca with a test base.

Testostersone is highly aromatizing+ Deca strongly increases aromatase= estrogen factory... which is why ppl get deca dick imo.

Deca converts to estrogen at 1/5 the rate of testosterone. You don't need to do anything for estrogen on deca.

Dude said

"Yeah no test base, deca only cycle -- and he didn't get any sides. Just leaned out like crazy and looked freaky. He's very prone to acne from gear and didn't break out from it. Seems like another side effect free drug safe for hair."

In addition to this, there are studies of people who use deca consistently for years with no bad sides reported (other than their HIV xD)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20974577

Improves bone density

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3333018

No change in fertility

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3988591


Anyways, for my first cycle I was thinking of running deca, see how my body responds, then easy into Tbol. Thoughts?

File: 1467331403245.jpg (359KB, 1080x1276px) Image search: [Google]

359KB, 1080x1276px

>>40069686
>Methylprednisolone
Ya talked to the doc about it. I am already recovering after just one shot and I would rather keep that as a last resort.
>>40069743
I'm not going anywhere trust me =P
Feeling a lot better since I've been home. Hospitals make me paranoid and always drive my blood pressure up. I am just super low energy. I haven't eaten in a while so they can scope me tomorrow.
I think I'm gonna take advantage of the fast and just start keto tomorrow after the procedure. I'm thinking ribeye and broccoli stir fry tomorrow.

File: image.jpg (2MB, 4032x3024px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 4032x3024px

Bee tee dubs homos

2.5lbs chicken breast, chopped
1 bag mixed veggies
1 yellow pepper*
1 red potato
1/2 yellow onion
1/4 cup garlic powder
1/2 cup corn starch
1/3 cup cream
3.5 cups water
Salt and pepper to taste

Let it chill all day.

>>40069840
Here's how I would run it:

3 tabs viagra ED

But in all seriousness

Deca Wks 1-10 300mgs
Nolva 10 mgs throughout up until last pill of clomid
Clomid (pct)-3 weeks following last shot of Deca

But I wouldn't run Deca by itself. It shuts down natural test harder than other AA's. There's also bloating and acne. Most of the gains will come from water weight making them difficult to keep. It's just an all around bad idea, especially for a first time cycle. This is almost as bad as the "Nolva only cycle" meme. 500mg Test E with proper pct is going to be far, far better on all counts.

>>40069955
Fair enough. Nice double dubs

File: 1477541352616.jpg (87KB, 1080x1080px) Image search: [Google]

87KB, 1080x1080px

>>40069969
Ughhh I had a sandwich at like 6pm yesterday. Haven't eaten since. You are killing me here lol

File: 12360416_10206222190168554_3055390976772886127_n.jpg (47KB, 945x550px) Image search: [Google]

47KB, 945x550px

>>40069969
Hnnnnggggggg that sounds fucking delicious

>>40070008
There's a restaurant chain In the east called J Alexanders; it's like upper management white people chic, feels like a lodge with an open kitchen.

They make a baller creamy chicken soup. The best I can recreate it is using cream and corn starch together, and then simmering in chicken and letting it cool. Then letting the chicken collagen jelly cook back into the broth. Thickens it well.

>>40069982
Why would deca by itself do that? I'm under the impression that it effectively replaces nearly all of T's functions.

Read this thread.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-steroids-questions-answers/39306-only-reply-if-you-have-done-deca-only-cycle-please.html

(Just realized it didn't go through)

In that thread

15 users have done a deca only cycle

-0 reported bloating
-0 reported acne
-0 reported ED issues

Can you provide evidence of your claims? You seem to be parroting what you've heard on this board and whatever other steroid board.

>>40070037
>Then letting the chicken collagen jelly cook back into the broth.

Genius

>>40070090
Dude try it and see. Your mind seems pretty made up. The only anecdotal evidence I have is anyone I talk to without any test, feels off.

I personally wouldn't run a 19nor standalone, but if you're super into it, try it and report back. Give the community firsthand feedback so we can expand our knowledge base. Document all other variables and shit though, make it easy to recreate. Give bloods, etc.

Experiment for us.

File: 1482772794322.jpg (11KB, 343x377px) Image search: [Google]

11KB, 343x377px

>>40070090
Dude, if you shut down your natural production of testosterone for 10 weeks without an external supply, what do you think is going to happen? Whats the point of asking what our opinions/thoughts are on it then say its parroting and ask for evidence? It's common sense. If you want to do it, like Bimbo said, it seems your minds already made up, so go and do it, find out for yourself.

File: IMG_4307.jpg (548KB, 2016x1512px) Image search: [Google]

548KB, 2016x1512px

wtf did i get in the mail, lads? ordered Test E vials - they all have different amounts in them, the package was soaked, the vials are oily, greasy, and leave rings on the table when I pick them up.

Has the test just evaporated, or was I sent something fake?

File: activatedalmond.png (56KB, 209x248px) Image search: [Google]

56KB, 209x248px

Postin again adjusted some shit

100mg Tren A ED
150mg Mast ED
400mg Pharma Test E/Week
200mcg GHRP-2 x4 Day
200mcg Mod GRF x4 Day
100mcg Pharma cytomel day
500mg DNP day
ECA

Sweet merciful fuck. Started 11th of January, 8 days later down 14lbs.

It's -5 celsius out and I have a huge box fan in my window blowing on max into the room and another small honeywell turbofan blowing straight at me and I still feel like satans scrote.

Also don't know how people complain about the hunger on this kind of shit. The nausea and heartburn alone make choking back even a simple proton shake a chore.

Gonna have to get a script for pantaloc or prevacid asap

Having some dick problems on 800tren/mastve and someone suggested bumping the test to 500 from 250 might help... Worth a try?

This is ofc implying my prolactin n e2 are within normal range

>>40070802

Just get ugl cialis

>>40070816
I have viagra and cialis is coming in soon, its more that I dont really feel all that horny on nearly a gram of tren that concerns me

File: 1311604994213.jpg (10KB, 240x180px) Image search: [Google]

10KB, 240x180px

>>40070718

>>40070633
WTF

Throw that shit out - no way I'd trust that to be sterile. A fucking cork? Looks like half or more of each vial has drained out somehow.

lol. how to reverse oxidative damage from dnp? i don't know how this shit works. do you just take fuckloads of anti oxidants? a really strong one?

guess this explains why on the sonogram the parotid had a fucked up structure while the other ones did not


"Biochemical analysis, as revealed by oxidative stress, also shows changes that can occur in pathological situations, as in the case of EtOH chronic consumption, showing involvement of oxidative stress in parotid gland sialadenosis [14]."

"According to old reports, parotid glands have a predominantly aerobic biochemical mechanism26 and 27 while submandibular glands have a predominantly anaerobic metabolism.27 and 28 Recent data support the idea that the enzymatic release in these two glands is governed by different regulatory mechanisms.29 This biochemical difference between the two salivary glands under study explains this incongruence in antioxidant enzyme levels. Since the main site of ROS production is the mitochondrial chain, it is reasonable that parotid glands showed higher antioxidant enzymatic activities."

>>40070633
I know what's wrong. They are all upside down.

All wheezing and thigh slapping aside, nigger throw it out. Half-empty? Product on the outside, package soaked? A fucking CORK? I need a word sketchier than sketchy for this.

>>40070802
it's pretty much 100% an e2 or prolactin problem

>>40070856
good riddance, better luck next life

>>40070633
this is incredibly fucking hilarious (as an outside person looking at it, obviously for you it might not be considered you just wasted probably like 300-400 bucks)

you need to contact your source and get shit refunded AND get that much back, for free... otherwise you need to raise a giant fuckin shitstorm.

I hope this is a well known source lmao, I could use some sst drama

>>40070856
so, how do you know if you got oxidative damage from it?

>>40070890
because how would i not after running it without anti oxidants

lol

>>40070873
Yeah i got my bloods done tonight but im already taking half a mg of prami daily and have started taking some tiny dose of AI.

Gonna try switching to caber this weekend and seeing if that does anything.

>>40070903
low dosage? i ran 250 mg for 2 weeks (with a huge stack of suggested supplements alongside) and i'm fine now

did you run no supplements with it...?

>>40070925
Man i ran that shit at 750 and felt fine a week after, uts the short term stuff you gotta be worried about

You ever get pip the second day after pinning? For example: pin on Tuesday, quad is fine Wednesday, hurts on Thursday.

>>40070951

Only with high concentrations like 400mg/ml long esters.

Whats happening is the gear is crashing out in your muscle. There's also the chance of shoving a needle through a lymph node and the next day shit swells up and hurts.

After running tren/mast ED and having to put 2.5ml into one quad one day, one quad the other PIP doesn't even phase me anymore.Just something you start to ignore

File: wRwNeER.png (584KB, 1440x2560px) Image search: [Google]

584KB, 1440x2560px

>tfw even roids can't fix your life

>>40071012
violence is the only answer

>>40071012
So quip back you're a stud that will fill her with seed and leave her immediately, so there's no need to impress her.

>>40071012
cough glands cough

Anyone have thought on this cycle

375mg tren ace EW
375mg test pp EW
450 Mast P EW

gonna cut down to 10% before i hop on.

currently 200 lb 5'11" 15% bf 23 y.o

i did a 14 week cycle of deca/tren-e/test-e 300/200/500 in fall but kinda fucked around with my diet and wasnt sure quality of gear

>>40071133
Why bother with tren and mast on your second cycle? What are you trying to accomplish?

>>40071487
to lean out and gain a couple of pounds of muscle

>>40071487
was thinking about a test primo deca cycle to blow up but primo is so expensive

>>40071601
EQ is a poor mans primo.

>>40071606
Test E Tbol and EQ also an option i was considering

>>40071628
Tbol is a waste, just get Epi.

>>40067048
Don't front load caber.
0.5mg/week is plenty.
Caber causes problems with the heart, you should use it as sparingly as possible.

>>40069840
If you're going to do this use NPP not deca.

>>40070749
What are you running? What is your diet like? You need to fix the root cause, using a PPI is only going to band aid the problem and make the problem worse in the long run.

alright reading all this garbage about the glands has made me feel better about my glands

if i accept that it is my own retarded fault and not some magical affliction ruining my life for no reason, then i can deal with it and not be a pussy about it. completely different than if it was not my fault.

just swallowed 800mg ibuprofen lets go, glands hype

and yes they are still like 85% gone from when i popped them. now i just look like a fat guy WITHOUT a hat, instead of like a completely deformed freak without a hat and obese with a hat.

so it is a step up but i still have to fix this shit.

can i just walk into any random doctors office and get a pilocarpine hydrochloride prescription, lol

>>40071781
the fuck you gonna need pilocarpine for

>>40070909
Goddamn my nipps are puffy but I really don't want to crash estro- why the hell did adding tren make managing AI so difficult when I could pop Dbol like tictacs and not worry about any estro for weeks at a time

>>40071601
>cycle to blow up
then just run like a gram of test. Its cheap and the sides are gonna be more mild than anything else you try for the same effects.

>>40071595
>lean out and gain a couple of pounds of muscle
mast is only useful for contest prep or if you run stupid amounts of tren

>>40071822
i have read probably at least 30-40 papers today, and that's being generous, on sialadenosis, and this drug is always mentioned as one of the most effective treatments besides surgery

the main cause of sialadenosis (as in the mechanism) is apparently autonomic neuropathy (not the same as DNP peripheral neuropathy which involves the hands and feet) which affects the automatic shit in your body like heartbeat and salivary gland secretion

this actually stimulates them by affecting neurotransmitters so it is more effective than some stupid shit like thinning your mucus

>>40071876
comedy gold lel

do me a favor and squeeze your nipples right now with moderate pressure

im gonna give you a hint

"prolactin"

My soup got thick af. Started separating some, so I reduced heat and added half n half. Thickened up nicely.

File: pic related.jpg (45KB, 778x493px) Image search: [Google]

45KB, 778x493px

>>40071893
My body literally can't handle any more prami and the bloods/caber is still at least a day or two away

Won't matter how puffy my nips are if I'm vomiting in the toilet all day

you have got to be fucking my asshole right, LOL

>check chat logs
>"dude omg blah blah i ate 2 month old fast food or whatever out of my car that was sitting in the summer heat blah blah"
>that was when i tried to make myself vomit for like an hour and kept vomiting up liquid but no fucking food
>timestamp is literally 3-4 days or so before i woke up with the glands

>"This “chipmunk-type” facies generally occurs 3-4 days after the cessation of self-induced vomiting. "

like really. lol. like. really.

you have these stupid fucks who do this shit every day of their life to be bikini models and twinkboy fucktoys.

and i do it ONCE. and get this shit...

i am not joking i just checked, i tried to induce vomitting literally 3-4 days before (depends if you say if this started june 8th or 9th)...


>"Sialoadenosis
>• Hypertrophy of the salivary glands in response to chronic purging
>• Seen about three days after cessation of vomiting
>• Can be very distressing for patients given their body image
issues
>• Painful at times
>• Recedes within a few weeks of purging cessation
"
CHRONIC PURGING, I did it fucking ONCE because I ate old ass food sitting in a 100 degree car...

Cutting with test 100/ var 30mg
Amazing feels
Is there any benefit in eating chicken vs cooking it and throwing it in a blender.

Help me with my order paranoia bros. I don't have anything to worry about, r-right?

>>40071974
i would definitely advise against eating raw chicken

Got a bit of DNP left after my last cut so I'm thinking of doing another mini one. How long should I wait after a cycle to avoid losing gains? Thinking maybe a month?

>>40071976
worst case you lose a couple hundred bucks whatever

>>40071983
No bro its cooked chicken thats getting blended

>>40072012
if you want to self induce vomiting without sticking your fingers down your throat sure. just don't complain when you get swollen glands

>>40072022
It tastes good heres what I do
1 chicken breast cooked on a grill, no seasoning
1 cup greek yogurt
1 teaspoon honey and a few drops of vanilla essence.

Its more gag inducing to eat it bland
My question is are there any benefits to eating vs drinking the same food same preperation. All I couldd think of was missing masseter gains but I chew that gum for it

>>40072058
pretty sure anything would taste good if you add all that shit to it, lol

>>40072058
Just inject more roids lmao

>>40072058
Blaine Sumner does that with chicken. I think he talked about it on Mark Bell's Powercast. It leads to some less-than-solid shits, so add some fiber stuff I guess?
Also, I think it's less filling, so if you're having difficulty keeping your calories low, this may not be as useful.

god i feel so relaxed in this fucking dorm even with these retarded glands. no retards screaming at each other for no reason, no having to deafen my hearing with music so i don't hear the dog being abused, no retards harassing me over stupid shit for no reason

thank god i left that fucking shithole known as my house

now what the fuck do i do for summer? fuck. i guess i will move into our yacht. doesn't sound so bad actually.

File: Conan The Barbarian 1982 Arnold Schwarzenegger 2.jpg (20KB, 400x250px) Image search: [Google]

20KB, 400x250px

>>40071713

>What are you running? What is your diet like? You need to fix the root cause, using a PPI is >only going to band aid the problem and make the problem worse in the long run.

Okay well,

100mg Tren A ED
150mg Mast ED
400mg Pharma Test E/Week
200mcg GHRP-2 x4 Day
200mcg Mod GRF x4 Day
100mcg Pharma cytomel day
500mg DNP day
ECA

Diet? Green vegetables and meat. Canned meat, cheap meat, good meat, fatty meat, lean meat, chicken, lamb, liver, tongue.. doesn't matter whatever.

>>40072318
top meme friend

fuck me, how long before my joints feel right again after crashing the shit out of my e2

>>40072330
1-2 weeks usually... faster if you take something that gets you tons of estro quickly.

i think this ibuprofen garbage is working holy shit fuck me

>>40071960


hey glands bby

glad to here your shit is chill. makes sense since your family was stressing you right?

things are getting like, tense with my mom and I, considering moving out,

Lately she has been like, being nasty to girls I bring home, and then getting high and mighty with me, telling me to get married, have kids.

the hilarious thing is I want to get married and have kids I just don't trust anyone or haven't met anyone I trust since anorexic ex

but I don't even feel the need to explain or ustify my personal life to her

maybe If I threaten to move out she'll calm down.

How long do I need to keep my AI dose after coming off a Test P blast?

File: download.jpg (8KB, 182x277px) Image search: [Google]

8KB, 182x277px

>>40072326

Not sure where the meme I put in is...

>>40072413
>mixing ANYTHING but a base with dnp
>taking random shit like GHRP
>50% more mast than tren
>eca stack to top it off

>>40072318
Why?

Where are some good spots to hide my roids? For the past three years I've just left them in a droor?? Also might come off cycle completely because of the girl. Probably run clomid and then just do cycles of lgd and osta for a while.

File: 1474768414071.png (29KB, 250x226px) Image search: [Google]

29KB, 250x226px

>>40072490
>droor

File: Ugh1.webm (179KB, 720x360px) Image search: [Google]

179KB, 720x360px

>>40072490
>droor
lol

>Also might come off cycle completely because of the girl.
>letting a childish woman's bullshit get in the way of being your best self
>mfw

>>40072533
Drawer*** fuck off fags iPhone changes words....

File: 2s.jpg (114KB, 1328x783px) Image search: [Google]

114KB, 1328x783px

>>40072431

I cruise on tren... I like the feeling I get from masteron.

Since when is GHRP2 considered random shit?
ECA helps with the fatigue and makes breathing quite a bit easier on tren/DNP I find, not as good as the salbutamol inhaler but much longer lasting.

>>40072547
droor is not a word, friend. that's not how autocorrect works.

No one has any good hiding spots though??

>>40072565
If you already own stuffed animals, you can probably rip out some stuffing and hide it in that. Or maybe put a false bottom in that drawer if you're relatively handy. Or there's the old Hollywood standby of hiding it in the AC vent.

File: tumblr_o9hfhteLG11r5nqzoo1_1280.jpg (472KB, 1280x960px) Image search: [Google]

472KB, 1280x960px

Fuck nalgene syringe filters. I left one for a couple hours after I filtered 1 vial an d I try to use it again and it basically crumbled at the luer lock part.

>>40072596

Nalgene vacuum filtration flasks are just as bad. Running 250ml of tren through one did not go so well when the cocksmoker clogged the filter and the media flask began to crack under vacuum.

My wife says my puffy lipsychological look less puffy after trt. Is it possible anastrazole can reduce my puffy nips?
My hormones before trt were 54 estrogen 161 test