/fraud/ - Steroid discussion, and how to become Lenny 101

First for King Jerry and Queen Asuza

I'm planning on running one last blast before I cruise for a couple months and come off completely, then sell my remaining gear, due to various reasons.

I've got plenty of Test E and Tren E, and I figured I'd use the Tren for the first time.

Not sure if I should I go low test high tren, or high test high tren? Was originally thinking of doing 125mg Test E e3d, and 250mg Tren E e3d, or 250mg of each e3d.

>>40054030
>got plenty of Test E and Tren E
>doing 125mg Test E e3d, and 250mg Tren E e3d

what the hell is that?

If you've got plenty of gear left and are coming off afterwards run a real dose. My best results were 250test 750tren though you would put on more mass with 500 (or preferably 750) each.

>>40053993
What's wrong with bimbo?

>>40054030
I've always preferred low test/high tren as it stops a lot of the sides for me, might work for you too.

He's right though --> >>40054055

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What should I say when i email the supplier of those cracked ass filter tops

>>40054025
Im okay with this.

Dbol posts like once every couple months maybe. Hes not in korea anymore lol

>>40054055
>>40054075

When I say e3d, I mean e3d, not twice a week, so it'd be roughly 290mg Test E, and 580mg Tren E p/w.

Also, I heard some people dealt with the Tren sides better on low test high tren, rather than high both, so I wasn't sure.


Also, how much of my gains would I expect to lose after coming off completely, after cruising on Test E for a couple months? I lift 6 days a week, and consume at least 0.8g protein/lb body weight every day.

>>40054098
What you like depends largely on your diet and post use routine, height/weight etc

>>40054114
>>40054098
Like was supposed to be "lose". Autocorrect.

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Wassup niggers,,,im in a jam,,,anyone want some cheap test and tren? I have a handful of unopened/untampered vials from freedom labs, they are an SST source and VERY good.

will let go for a hella good deal, just wanan do it asap though because i need the money for unexpected expenses smhhh. email me

>>40054174
Is this source talk? I can't tell.

>>40054174
Which country are you in, mate?

Thinking about doing Clen. Went hard this last bulk. Gained a bunch of muscle mass but also fat. Never done fat burners. What's the word?

>>40053039
Successfully made it in and out without eating twice my bodyweight in pizza. Audible stomach motions tho.

>>40053715
>Maybe tren just amplifies stupidity
Yes it does, in some cases.

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>>40054224
Go back for pizza n beer.
Its your refeed day

>>40054250
God I hate and love her at the same time. Wish I had that issue she has with her digestion or w/e, could cut easily on burger king all day lmao

>refeed day
Nope. Sadly not. If I overate now I would just projectile vomit and get fat rofl

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>>40054008
>Whats your planned blast so far?
Babby's first 500 test for now - FL has got me thinking about var so might throw that in as well. Also maybe a low amount of EQ for quality-of-life/joints gains like Cat Piss was advocating a while ago.

Planning to taper up from 220 so I know the minimum amount of AI to take @500 and then just go for it. Definitely want to play around with tren (with low test) for blast #2 though. Just to see whether it works with my constitution or not more than anything.

>>40054066
Nothing. Just new people who haven't seen the non-blogposting side of him and therefore lump him in with the rest.

>>40054303
Imagine how much youd have to eat to bulk though lol

I have to schedule my refeed days around when people want to hang
Its a pain but works out ok

>>40054319
Because of esters it naturally tapers

>>40054365
>Imagine how much youd have to eat to bulk though lol
You underestimate how fun eating is for me. If I had to eat 15000kcal a day to lean bulk I would easily do it.

finally off dbol, now it's time to fuck around with AI some more to know how much I need without the dbol craziness, whee

in b4 gyno gets worse

>>40054185
no its not you fuckin faggot dry snitch, gtfo of here with that shit

>>40054202
US but will ship anywhere

>>40054055
That's plenty of gear, m8

>>40054250
Have you watched Black Butler?

Also, where's Yolodrol?

>>40054213
Don't bother with clen, just do ECA and cardio.

>>40054494
dead

>>40054055
>on 250 test 860 tren e right now to account for ester weight to make it same as 700 tren ace

This is gonna take some getting used to not being a literal complete freak any more duck ny ass

>>40054494
Probably fucking twelve year olds.

>>40054514
Lies, François Rousseau pegs too many pretreens to die. He absorbs their souls with his dick and it keeps him alive.

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>>40054402

>>40054551
necropedophilia. what a revolting but fantastic concept.

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>>40054213

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>>40054535
Remember the heated discussions? Yolo and Canary defending the "between 12 and 17" argument? It slowly devolving from the idea of personal morality and perspective into "FUCKING PEDOS"? FatLifts getting riled up and ripping into Canary? I used to love watching that shit. arguments.

>>40054573
The human brain is brilliant yet terrifying place.

>>40054595

what is in the reflection?

>>40054630
if you only knew, my friend. glad 4chan mods are more stern now than they were a while ago.

>>40054682
I second that!

>>40054660
A train window with a guy sitting across of him

Why "Sesame Street gang"? What does the moniker infer?

>>40054793
childish inane bullshit

could also call them tren-e-tubbies but alex doesn't actually roid

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>>40054821
Why does he post in the thread, then? Does he sell or something?

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>>40054821
>tren-e-tubbies
>mfw

>>40054846
no. fucking. idea. he's like herpes. came out of the blue, never goes away.

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>>40054856
>no. fucking. idea. he's like herpes. came out of the blue, never goes away.

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>>40053993
Hey /fraud/,
tomorrow i am going to the doctor to try to get testosterone. What should i say to the doctor for him to give me test?

>29
>Test was 424


Frauds thoughts on TRT?

>>40054875
i'm garfiled and i hate mondays

>>40054882
Docs usually diagnose based on total testosterone (what you have listed), rather than free T or bioavailable T, so it's very possible that even though your total T is low (very low for your age) but within range, your free T could be on the extremely low side. Did you get your SHBG tested? That's what binds up total T and prevents it from becoming free T.

>>40054875
>Google "low testosterone symptoms"
>"hey doc I have x, y and z symptoms"
>test

>>40054882
Time to jump on that TRT train senpai.

>>40054934
He is running all the other stuff, something about wanting to make sure I don't have a tumor or something like that and to check my free test, prostate function, something about carbs in my piss. Rattled off far too many things for me to remember.

Gave me 400mg of Test C, and said I'll probably be getting 200mg every other week after this.

some of my gear crashed so i tried warming it in a pan but i got no results, the Crystals are still there, anyone got any tip?

>>40054875
Ask him to test DHEAS, Testosterone Total, Testosterone Free, SHBG, LH, FSH, 17 Alpha OHP

>>40054971
Jesus man, I hope its not a tumor. Scary stuff.

That's a pretty decent amount of test for a trt, best of luck with the gains. You could always add your own extra bit on top, maybe another 100/150mg per week?

I want raise good test but not bad test.

>>40055010
He does 2 shots. A 200mg or a 300mg. The 200 he charges $30 a shot, or $35 for the 300.

Should I just ask for the 300?

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>>40055063
>The 200 he charges $30 a shot

>>40055086
Is that a lot for Test C? It is a small town clinic, he doesn't file with insurance because it is too much paperwork....and he is lazy.

>>40054977
What compound and ester?

>>40055063
I'd get the 300, but shit, buy your own because thats expensive as fuck compared to just purchasing your own 10ml vial!

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>>40054867

broyles on acid was fucking amazing

>>40055096
>not bothering with insurance cause paperwork and lazy
JUST

that aside, 300, always.

>>40055096
You could have literally ten times that for the same price if you bought your own. Also that clinic sounds sketchy as hell.

>>40055050
Zinc, Magnesium Asparte, B6?

>>40055063
that is ridiculously expensive, just buy a 10ml vial or something lol

>>40055110
YES!! One of my top 3 episodes!

>>40055110
I didn't know that other people actually watched fringe.

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Welp, based centaur girll has fallen for the BBC.

>>40055121
>>40055115
I'll think about it.

Just worried because I am a CPA, and getting caught with a controlled substance would be an auto revocation of my livelihood

And ya, it is sketchy. But what do you expect from a health clinic in a town of 2500 people.

>>40055138
Centaur girl?

>>40055137
It's such a comfy watch, brah

>>40055137
are you kidding? fringe was GOAT. lacked a bit in the later episodes but still fun stuff.

>>40055138
can't wait for the sextape

>>40055182
The likelihood of you getting caught self-medicating testosterone is very low. It would help to have a prescription for it if you can get one though.

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>>40055197
tfw you will never have a threesome with fauxlivia and olivia

>>40055230
>not wanting two fauxlivias for a threesome instead
get out

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>>40055192
>Centaur girl?
Bakhar

>>40055208
She's blocking people who say shit about the BBC or make Brazzers jokes.

>>40055182

This --- >>40055212

It's very, very unlikely as long as you're smart about it. Maybe go in and get a cheap one from the doc every so often when you have the money spare? It might help terms of covering your own ass if you're pinning 300mg a week

>>40055100
primobolan

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>>40055248
Hey, i didnt know we had double up rulea ... i thought we had to takw whats there!

On a side note note, pic is a dude.

>>40055249
>She's blocking people who say shit about the BBC or make Brazzers jokes
LMAO thought so, but thanks for confirmation

>>40055272
As far as unrealistic lewd fantasies go, I do not abide to any rules, my friend.

>pic is a dude
I should care either way why?

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>>40055272
>pic is a dude.

>>40055284
Dunno really, my friend just linked me to her/his escort site site full of pics, so I thought i'd share.

Where's Stoya when you need him?

>joints hurt
>nipples still sensitive/itching

dude wtf

managing e2 is the biggest meme in the world

>>40055296
google somer breeze, website is somer4u, it's one of the first results.

Anyone have that picture of that shredded skele kid who was caught being on gear and not working out?

>>40055010
>I hope its not a tumor
Thats literally the go to for endos
Like the first thing they check

>>40055305
Thats hot
Post feminine penis

>>40055305
>>40055319
thanks a lot m8

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>>40055338
No nudes, but apparently it's 10 inches according to stats.

>>40055346
All good, man

>>40055249
>BBBBRRRRRRFFFFFTTTTSSHSSGHSGHHSSSS

>>40055319
>yadda yadda surfer girl
>"and a sexy 10 inch fully functional secret"
"no"

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>>40055338
>Like the first thing they check
Mine did a kleinfelters genetic test too.

>>40055361
feet bigger than mine
disregard

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>>40055365
>10 inch fully functional secret
>>40055361
>apparently it's 10 inches

Lmao nah that ain't happening. Did him turning into a tranny give er the skill of girl inches in dick measuring? I think Mandingo is the only porn dick that comes close to that and he's probably 9 something.

>>40055381
Went too far with the breasts, gross

>>40055365
Its a feminine 10 in dick

>>40055398
*If* it's true, it'll be surgery.

>>40055398
Some tranny hookers have pretty big dicks no homo

>>40055414
Look up her reviews they usually say the size
No homo

>>40055425
kek, already did. None of them divulge

>>40055398
Maybe not 10 inches but from what ive heard trannies have pretty big dicks on average
Ive heard on the internet so make what you want from it

>>40055398
ain't nobody gonna sue a tranny hooker for false advertising aye

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>>40055439
>Ive heard on the internet

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What's the strongest legal supps? Not something like creatine, the good shit, the stuff most people don't know about it. No troll answers because it's not funny.

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>>40055414
Too bad surgery for lengthening will only give you a big floppy dick that doesn't stand up well because they cut the suspensory ligament.

>>40055439
Probably only looks big because they try to get to "girl" weights like ~130lbs. I've uh stumbled into tranny dick threads on /gif/ and know what you mean but I think it's a perspective and proportion thing more than actually having a big dick a lot of the time.

Yo if I make a tinder what are the odds of my ex's roommate seeing me on there??

>>40055482
you can insert implants that lengthen it and still make it able to stand somewhat. but that never goes to 10 inches if you weren't 8.x before already and also according to witnesses is nothing like the real thing

>>40055479
you're like ten years too late to the party

sarms for questionably legal/gray area

>>40055487
very high, unless you pay for Tinder plus which has a setting that only shows you to girls you've already right swiped on

>>40055479
SARMS and SERMS. Also creatine.

>>40055479
Beta-Alanine? BCAA?

>>40055482
I didn't know that. Shame.

I would never use needless or buy illegal drugs, but if sarms are legal and they're easy to buy and maintain taking without my dick breaking, I'd do it. I just want to lose 20-30lbs and keep putting on size. Anyone else use them, tips/advice/worth it?

>>40055510
serms are legal in the same way testosterone is legal though... prescription based

>tfw you put in a shirt you haven't worn in a while and it's tight across your chest shoulders and arms.
Great feel. I remember when I was skellly enough this shirt was like a tent.

>>40054618
I miss all the old trip fags. Even if some of them were pedos.

>>40055580
Didn't know, sorry. I get any- and everything I use illegally anyway so I was just spitballing. Also not US-based.

I hate lunchtime on pmsf
Office smells so damn good

>>40055496
Is this really a thing
2in dong here I come

>>40055621
it is. but NOT recommended for a vast array of reasons.

>>40055614
Yeah, me too. I remember you from a couple years back so it's nice to see a familiar trip along with Bimbo and Jerry. How are the gains coming along?

>>40055620
Brit?

>>40055317
>laying down in dorm room with crashed estrogen
>still bloated as fuck
>have 0 sex drive atm
>every joint in my body aches like fucking shit
Fuck. Me.

Never touching anything that aromatizes again so I don't have to fuck with my estrogen, just gonna do 250 test

Been doing cardio at my small apartment gym, college bunny is always in there tries to talk to me while on the treadmill. I'm having huge cravings to pound her out in the bathroom.

My girlfriend isn't enough, I want to bang everything. Is this just the test?

>>40055670
Whats the story behind your trip? Or is it pretty self explanatory? If so, why are they swollen? And how did you crash your estro?

>>40055655
Nah, East European gypsy scum kek

>>40055691
>being this new

>>40055670
What are you running currently?

>>40055684
Nah, it's called being a MAN. Get in there, pound that squish mitten til she's walking like John Wayne

>>40055696
i'm not new, i just took a 2 year break. I'm new to the trip game, though.

>>40055693
Nothing wrong with that, dude

>>40055646
Alright. I'm at 210 at 6"'3" right now. I really need to get my diet on point though. Just finished my third cycle.

Hbu?

>>40055716
860 tren 250 test. 11-12 days ago I thought, being the genius that I am, it would be a good idea to use the leftover dbol I have on hand. E2 got high, so I crashed it on accident trying to get it back down. Stopped the dbol a week ago but still fucking bloated, only crashed e2 like two days ago or yesterday

Feel like garbage, can't move, lethargic as fuck, no sex drive, every joint hurts like FUCK. Face is bloated as hell making ne feel 5x worse too.

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bicep pump today was outrageous!!

+100kg and countingggg

>>40055793
Bicep routine?

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>>40055776
Well done man! 210's good for 6'3. How come you're struggling with your diet?

Pics me so far. 6'1/195lbs/11% bf

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>>40055614
Best feel

>WERE pedos

>>40055791
>all this fucking hassle with the glands
>runs motherfucking tren again

seriously, you deserve it. I have given up on you by now

>>40055717
>Nothing wrong with that, dude
half of /int/ disagrees. but it's a comfy life

How easy is it to mess up your GH in its vials? Apparently I wasn't mixing it with the water slowly enough or something. Have I nullified those vials I've used, or was it still good?

>>40055808
kek

Jerry San, are you still at university?

>>40055815
Fuck em.

>>40055791
Fucking kid,its not how you run steroids,you've got to have a fucking plan and stick with it.
'Oh a little bit dbol left lets shoot so it doesnt go to trash'
'Ah a this one missed my eye'
Kill yourself m8.

>>40055824
I actually try to. laid two chicks and one guy I got to know on there lmao

Pls respond
Does testosterone change your genetics or what youre born with is it.
I was always low test due to Klinefelters but after being on test (not thru trt) for 2 years no one would ever beleive i have Klinefelters. Does this mean that a defined jaw would have been in my grnes if I were always normal test or did testosterone doses change my genes
Sorry I am also high af

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What's your diet?

>>40055838
Epigenetics.

The alleles were present for particular genetic markers but the enivronmental thresholds weren't reached until your pinned.

>>40055836
niiiiiice

Is it true that if you've been taking test for a while, when you come off, your natural production is higher than before?

>>40055803
hammer curls
concentration curls
preacher curls
Standing Cable Double-Bicep Curl

>>40055850
oats + 6 eggs
chicken + rice
chicken/meat + rice
chicken/meat + rice
cottage cheese pwo
7 eggs + carbs
chicken/meat + rice

also veggies and fruits

TRY THIS DIET AND FUCKING GROW LIKE ME FAGGOTS

>>40055880
How often do you go to the grocery store? How much food per meal? What kind of rice? How often fruit and vegetables? Actually interested pls tell me

>>40055372
cariotype? (karyotype?)

That's cool. Was it expensive af? I kinda wanted to do the tumor/kleinfelter's tests but figured it was so rare that it wouldn't be worth the expense.

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Whats the chance this guys natty?

>>40055921
pretty low tbqh

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>>40055921
Not high he's just a shit roider
>>40055880
You look pretty

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Type 1 diabetic here- Why do some fraudsters, particularly bodybuilders take insulin? Seems batshit insane to me as a diabetic because, at best, it's 25/75% muscle/fat anabolism compared to HGH which is somewhere around 80/20

Maybe someone can explain it to me

>>40055880
>chicken listed seperately from chicken meat
What part of the chicken are you eating then?

>>40055880
12 Oz of chopped up chicken breestrogen, a cup of white rice, beans, for work lunch, honey bun from vending machine

Same thing after work. Except the honey bun

2 scoops of whey with whole milk.
2500k
If I added my mass gainer it'd be 3200

Do you work fultime.

>>40055969
>Not eating chicken feathers
wipes itself on the way out mate

>>40055902
I don't go the grocery store. My gf does all my grocery. She buys my chicken by some cheap ass butcher. She probably goes 3 times a week for me.

I probably eat 1kg chicken a day if i don't eat meat that day.
13 eggs
rice/pasta
banana 1 or 2 / apples / blueberries
green beans/broccoli
cottage cheese, 500grams
nuts/natty peanut butter
1 slice bread

White rice/brown pasta. i can't eat brown rice.

>>40055955
Looking huge and solid, mirin.

>>40055960
Insulin is the lost anabolic hormone. It sdorecty responsible for delivering nutrients where they need to go.

If you're using walmart otc 70/30 yeah you'll get fat. If you on 6iu gh, 1g test and 1g tren with 10iu Lantus? That's more like 95% active recovery be fat storage.

The use of insulin was first noted by. Peculiar 70s bb guy who was typically a bit doughey but insanely big. People were always asking his secret and he never revealed. Turns out he was type 1 diabetic and understood the foundational science of when to time nutrients and dosing his slin.

>>40055969
>yfw the secret to MasT's gains was actually gnawing on chicken bones, feathers, and claws
For real though, chicken is technically poultry. Some people still separate poultry from other kinds of meat the same way they separate fish.

>>40055991
Das it mane.
My wife is gonna cook me 3 pounds of chicken tomorrow a d rice then set them up in separate containers c:
If I eat 2 of my lunches one at work one at home I eat 1500 cals and 202g of protein..protein is easy. the problem is adding g the cals for me. Whole milk, honey buns, candy, crap is what I try to eat to meet my 2500k a day requirement.

>>40055960
The insulin you shoot and the one bodybuilders shoot are different in quality and overall effect mate.

>>40055991
Thanks dude

I have the slow cooker on low still simmering 3lbs of chicken in a vegetable broth.

>>40055793
Merlin
>>40055804
Also merlin
>How come you're struggling with your diet?
It's mostly fucking up and drinking/eating garbage when I'm oot and aboot.

>>40055808
Lol'd I thought 2d didn't count?

>>40055880
Mirin devotion. I've got 20lbs of chicken in the freezer waiting to be prepped. Gonna see if I can't get it all cooked and prepped tomorrow.

>>40055969
the part with the most protons of course.

Come on jerry

>>40055973
cut everything but the chicken and rice

fucking honey bun, come on son. Do you wanna make gains or what

Yeah full time. No fucking excuses. If you really want it, you gonna do it. Nobody can stop you

>>40056025
That's the life breh.

You already gave up before you trying, that's you problem. Stop looking for excuses.

if you really want something you can do it.

NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE, but you let your weak mind tell you impossible. El no empossible

>>40055138

are niggers just ugly or what

Im guessing these are the best, upper %, primo niggers and they just look shitty

whats the deal?

>>40055572
you cant overdose sarms
so go for it until you are at your goal

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>>40055324

just google "dnp no exercise skinny"

>>40055479
Are you thinking about pro-hormones?

If you're thinking about SARMs, check out RAD-140 and LGD-4033.

>>40055838
Very interesting question. Have you read "anabolics"? Test (and epigenetic factors in general) can change the expression of your genotype (genes). This can be referred to as changing the genetic presentation (or phenotype) of an organism.

When test binds to androgen receptors, it results in DNA transcription. Here is a pretty high level description of what happens: http://arbl.cvmbs.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/endocrine/moaction/intracell.html

Similar description can be found in "Anabolics." So yes, taking testosterone will cause more of the DNA transcription that is dependent on androgen receptor activation, but I wouldn't call it "changing your genetics." It is changing the expression of your genes (where your genes are constant, but their expression varies based on environmental factors).

>Does this mean that a defined jaw would have been in my grnes if I were always normal test or did testosterone doses change my genes
Having a hard time following your logic here. Maybe ask this again in view of the above understanding?

From what I understand, the definition of your jaw can be improved in your youth by doing jaw exercises (the mewing meme), increasing GH levels probably, keeping estrogen low, and getting excellent nutrition. High natty test levels probably don't hurt either. If you were to intentionally try to maximize these factors in your youth, it'd be another example of epigenetic manipulation of your genotype - you create an environment that is conducive to certain expressions.

>>40056102
I'm sure, I'm just trying to meet my cals without being u healthy lol or resorting to mass gainer. What would you recommend I add to my meals high in calories? I'm tempted to just meet the rest with whole milk. Lol. Shit mane. Do you suggest I eat 4 of my meals a day? 2 at work 2 at home? 401 protein 3000 cals? Lol.

>>40056174
go nuts on nuts

>>40055572

they still crash test though so you still need pct

people say you dont need it with osterine but it still has test suppressive abilities

>>40055817

probably best to scrap them and start over

>>40055857
>>40056170
Thanks for replying I'm looking into Epigenetics right now and it seems to explain what's going on.

Test=Ambrosia

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Why the fuck is Subutramine so expensive in England?!

>>40056065
It doesn't dont be mislead by me

>>40056102
Isnt that the meat?
You eat chicken liver and brains I bet

>>40056174
Pizza

Get a rice cooker though. So clutch
Or cereal with ultrafiltered skim milk? Damn son

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>>40056101
If i tell you that you can do it, you can do it.

if i can do it, everyone can do it

>>40056174
stop wasting your money to shit that don't work

food and roids is what you need.

eat more meals to get more kcals, it's that simple. 7/8 times a day

1 breakfast
3 at work
1 pre work out
1 post work out
1 before bed

it's that easy

>tfw 2100 calories over

I knew pizza was bad but shit

Pizza is really bad

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>>40056358
i eat the brains to compensate for my brains, but it ain't working

>>40056422
He should've won. I swear bb competitions have a hard on for BBC.

>>40056337
No. test is just a hormone. Your genes and more importantly your environment = shitty lmao

>>40056174
THAT CHOCOLATE CHOCO CHIMP
You feel me??

>>40056422
Who needs brains when youre hella ripped
Just flex at your boss and professionals

>>40055824
I work full time but I am also working on a masters

>>40056002
>Insulin is the lost anabolic hormone. It sdorecty responsible for delivering nutrients where they need to go.
No it isn't, purely glucose and glucagon

>If you're using walmart otc 70/30 yeah you'll get fat.
Other way round, hence the question.

>>40056029
No, I've sold my insulins including NovoRapid and Lantus and Levemir to name a few. They all have the same effect at an atomic level.

>>40056422
Who's this wank tank?

>>40056467
Lmao no.

Insulin is directly responsible for shuttling amino acids and free fatty acids as well.

i answered your question.

>>40056467
not that I knew, if I want to be silly with my blood levels I just cop metformin off my sister. but why do people shell out money for lantus and such when they apparently have the same effect as the namebrand cheap stuff?

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>>40056449
Mass is not everything unfortunately. But yeah politics is always present.

Everything is about money eventually.

But fucking phil heath is flawless, you gotta give him that

>>40056463
I love you jerry

>>40056469
Your superiority

>>40056531
>you weigh more than the guy next you you shredded at 5%bf
>he still wina cause he knows a guy and has dat BBC

Fuck man.

>>40056531

Phil heath is just babby version of coleman

Plus I genuinely dont think his abs are up to much

10/10 lats though

>>40056531
>Your superiority

Eh? My superior you mean?

>>40056463
Whats the masters on? What field do you work on?

>>40056624
I hope your face is better than roellys lol

>>40056531
Everyone loves me
Its a curse

>>40056647
kek, thankfully.

I can deal with the sweat.

I can deal with the heat.

But the fucking smell coming out of me from DNP is ridiculous. I smell like an apothecary inside of an old folk's home. Anybody got a cologne or soap they can recommend? I have a feeling it'll need to be gay brazilian at a night club strength.

I need to bring caffeine pills to work to eat in the afternoon, this lethargy is killing me

>>40056632
Mba with finance
And I work in finance

What about you?

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>>40056700
I used pic related in 2 showers a day (10am/4pm) and Adidas Ice Dive cologne,

>>40056500
Different insulins have different profiles and cost more and less to make, hence the difference in prices.

>>40055832
Y

>>40056788
That's what I thought but the diabetic anon claims it's all the damn same. Ah, what do I care, as I said, the most I am willing to fool around is a metformin here and there and that's it.

>>40056824
They aren't.

>>40056824
>That's what I thought but the diabetic anon claims it's all the damn same.
I'm the diabetic anon, you're replying to me.
They have different profiles but they all have the same anatomic function

Metformin is fairly safe, you're fine despite being wrong

>>40056760
Quant?

And, do you trade for fun/work? If so gimme some picks plz. Bio/pharma stresses me out sometimes.

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>>40053789
it's mostly the firefighting thing, I'm doing EMT for that.

>ammo vendor NEET

I wish, I'd like to into /personaltrainer/ NEET who just sells bullshit to normies online, I'll be trying that over the summer

>>40053907
>stats

5'9"
~175 currently
13-15% BF

newest pic I have is from december, and I'm sick as fuck (of course, first day of classes + still bulking, REEEEEEEE) so I can't update it, but here. ~168 in this pic iirc.

>>40056760
I dropped out of school when I was 15, so no Masters in my future!. I work for a large company in the fiber glass industry, we have a shit ton of different contracts, but at the moment i'm working on large underground water tanks for our towns Council, made from scratch, base skeleton to grind finish. It's a little bit of engineering, a little bit of metalwork/woodwork,little bit of everything really. It's rewarding and pays well though, so it's all good

>>40056849
Oops, well we are but anon talking to itself aren't we.

>>40056849
Yes duh, all insulin shuttles nutrients but they don't all act the same in terms of efficiency or response. If that we're the case, lantus wouldn't be hailed for reducing the overall risk of a diabetic episode.

Guys going out to eat with the ex right now trying to win her back she wants be to stop the roids tho. If I get on trt though she won't care???

>>40056977
How would we know?

Anyways don't give in to her demand of changing yourself or your aspirations. You play is to reaffirm trust in the relationship, not appease her.

Does anyone remember when exactly I stopped the rapeseed oil

>>40056977
The "one last hug" girl?

Just get better at hiding it and say you're taking prohormones. If it's the illegality of it that's bothering you then that might work.

Would be hard/impossible for you to get script TRT without coming off.

>>40057133
>Just get better at hiding it
Most garbage advice I have ever seen

>>40056852
Nah just basic bitch shit

I have a small trading account but Im not very active anymore, just sitting back. Want to pay off my student loans first.

Beer and beer production has done well for me

>>40056893
That sounds pretty cool actually
But I can shitpost tons at my job

>>40057145
Well, he's "trying to win her back" not be your idea of alpha MGTOW who doesn't ever compromise with women so there's at least some chance of it helping him reach his goal if he just hides it and stays at a low dose.

Roids/size aren't everything to some people. If he's willing to drop down to TRT levels for her, that's his call, no?

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>>40057201
>If he's willing to drop down to TRT levels for her, that's his call, no?

Nah man, we all need to strive to pump ourselves full of chemicals to the point that we grow giant disgusting mutated fucking glands on our face that prevent us from having any sense of social normality.

Then, and get this, it's the good part.

We just need to become the reddit MGTOW movement incarnate and cry while we jerk off contemplating suicide to negate that peak testosterone dropoff, ja feel?

Nevermind the fact that a balding, fat, hair covered manlet with the social prowess of a phone book and an equally tiny, zit-covered bodybuilding-obese mexican who stuffs himself full of fast food to bulk can do just fine (relatively) with women, all of that aside.

200mg tren A, stat. Straight to the glands.

Women L O V E a big pair of glands.

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>>40054793
>pic related

fuck i need to update with swollen and that other faggot

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>>40056343

I understand that the main treatment provided by the NHS for fat fucks is either Orlistat or bariatric surgery

Therefore nearly all of the Subutramine is imported / smuggled in and that is why its expensive and uncommon

>>40057201
Retard she distrusts him so u want him to lie and hide it again?

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>>40056852

I've been skeptical of Elon Musk for years but the mad man actually did it, Tesla is under-valued.

> https://www.tesla.com/energy

Suddenly it's cheaper than an actual roof to get a fucking state-of-the-art Tesla solar panel roof. $7,000 for a 14 KWH battery, supporting hardware, and installation. I see 50 million buildings paying an average of $15,000 for Tesla solar/powerwall in the next 5 years. Then, once Tesla releases an affordable car, let's say about the price of a Jeep -- they'll be selling at least the amount of Jeeps Fiat sells. Everybody is going to want a fucking Tesla, it's the iPhone of cars.

Say they make, on average after costs, they'll make at least $20,000 per Tesla car sold. Fiat sold 1,237,583 Jeeps in 2015, let's say Tesla sells 1,237,583 Model Q's in 2019. They're making $25 billion dollars. Let's say they don't make anything in 2017+2018 to round it out, then they make $25 B off their auto division in 2020+2021+2022, and during this time they make $5000 profit*50M buildings off their energy division... that's $75 B off auto and $250 B off energy profit. That's accounting for the low margins they will encounter while initially bringing these technologies to market. You can expect profit to triple in the 5 years after that.

Using the 8-year rule, Tesla's stock value will increase at least 12-fold in the next 5 years and I tried to be pessimistic. You really think 50 million businesses/homes around the world aren't going to install this Tesla Solar Roof shit over the next 5 years? Not even considering this fucker Elon Must just successfully launched a space rocket. He has the midas touch.

It's an odd feeling because I was short on Tesla for 5 years now as a natural contrarian because I didn't think he'd pull it off.

>>40057160
> want to pay off my student loans first

Really nigga. Masters in Finance? Really.

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>>40057241
KEK

I mean I'm very sympathetic to worldviews that place a lot of value on the uncompromised male psyche but something about glands' posting history suggests to me that his idea of success with women is just degenerate promiscuity (upping your body count etc.), which is whatever.

Kinda silly to promote that over a monogomous relationship that both parties appear to be desirous of, and that could evolve into something /wholesome/. Especially when the obstacle to that outcome is so trivial in the larger scheme of things.

>>40057201
Yea this is the one last hug girl she's going to come around I think but she doesn't like how they make me act she says and also because they're "poison". They do make me a little jealous at times and overly aggressive. But I probably will just run trt doses after this blast then run orals every so often.

>>40057241
If she discovered his gear use and doesn't like it enough to leave his ass. Lying about coming off is a shitstorm waiting to happen and he prob wouldn't want to lie to her like that anyway

>>40057425
>this nigga

you're over here fucking analyzing Tesla's growth potential based on his market influence and I'm just hoping to god my shitty penny stock pharma company pays off

being poor blows

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/IMNP?p=IMNP

>>40057441
I told her I have to come off slowly

>>40057465
You're digging your hole deeper.

Just be honest since apparently you love her or something. You keep lying but that's what got you here. Just be firm and assertive in what you actually want: her and gear.

Educate her. Tell her you'll sit down to lunch if she'll listen to a discussion on how hormones can be used safely; as a counterpoint, I like to use birth control which has many of the same side effects as AAS, as it's a sex hormone.

If she can't or is unwilling, #l8tr. Whatever you do, continue this weird deceit is lame.

Just be stand up about it. Tell her how things are and what you expect and if you two cannot reach a meeting point then you need to walk.

>>40057429
not to mention the true obstacle is rampant autism

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> street sign captcha pops up again
> select all the blocks that contain street signs
> "wait, what would black slave do?"
> unselect blocks that contain some street signs
> success

>>40057463
> penny stock pharma company

Yeah, that's where everyone starts it seems. I think my first was CTIC in 2008 and I got lucky because I only held it for a pump and sold out before the dump. Seems they're a legitimate company now, increased a hundred fold in value, but that's rare.

But, yes, analyzing Fortune 500's growth potential is how you make money, as long as you avoid Jew-controlled scams like Facebook. The Federal Reserve was printing money to buy stocks of certain Jewish companies back in 2011. I don't know if they still are, I don't care, but if I see too many 'bergs', 'sand', 'stein', 'man', etc in the insider's surnames; I don't fuck with that company.

We have this shit called derivatives, known by goyim as 'options' or 'futures'. Basically allows you to make 400% off a stock moving from $56 to $57 if you get the timing right, and that's a big IF. Fuck penny stocks and be careful.

>>40057425
Well, fuck. Great analysis. I have mostly been trading in mid-/small-cap companies so TSLA has been completely off my radar. They're having one hell of a run right now too.

Hopefully they miss Q4 earnings or something to give me a nice entry point. Nice to see a bear that concedes success when he sees it :)

My picks for near term 2017 if anyone's interested:
VCEL (lab grown cartilage for knee surgery, also some cool stem cell therapies for people with weak hearts)
VRTX (buyout chatter - long term)
VKTX (pharma LGD-4033 and a fatty liver drug in pipeline)
NVCN (reached support levels, will likely get CE Mark for their transcatheter mitral valve in a few months)

>>40057430
Tell her that you need to be on TRT doses to maintain function and that "PCT is risky" (even though you know better) since you've already said >>40057465. It's a meme that she'll probably believe because she thinks roids are poison. Then once roid use is sort of normalized and out in the open, you can proceed to red-pill her on the truth behind it.

Maybe she'll never get to the point where she condones blasting 700mg tren/week but maybe you can get her to be okay with running high test at times.

Now that I'm looking at your situation, seems like a big part of her problem with it was you being dishonest about it, so this might be a decent way to rebuild that trust.

>>40057463
Lol did I recommend IMNP to you? If/when Bmab results come out positive, IMNP is going to take you to the moon.

Only issue is that they got the delisting notice, and while they're trying to appeal, a R/S has already been approved and will likely need to happen unless results get posted very soon.

What's your entry? I've been in and out of IMNP a lot over the last year lol. Definitely going to start building a position in it again, just wish they'd get the R/S over already.

>>40057585
The big part was the dishonesty and the lying. Also I act like an ass on higher doses of gear. Also get pretty jealous here and there depending on what compounds I'm on.

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>every cbt i post in dies right when i post my picture.

fuck it even happened with mast's cbt.

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>>40057463
>>40057607

Also, IMNP isn't terrible, looks like it's getting ready for a pump. I don't know anything about the company, just giving a quick look. Typically pharmaceutical companies don't devalue long-term, they get acquired, and if they're worthless they'll be bought up by penny stock scam artists.

Again, I don't know, but pharma penny stocks are extremely high risk and usually the first place rookie investors lose their money.

>>40057585
> great analysis

m8, I used to actually crunch the numbers for exact projections. Let me introduce you to a site called Trefis, nice intro to fundamental valuation. Seems like the site has become a pain in the ass to use but still.

> https://www.trefis.com/
> Search
> TSLA
> Companies: Tesla Motors

The general old rule is that stocks trade at 8 times their profit if I remember right. Anyway, I don't fuck with pharmaceuticals, apparel, resources/energy, or Jew stocks. If you have an angle, by all means, but don't be too confident and never let feelings interfere with trading.

My arms fall asleep so much easier now since I've been roiding.

Is that just me or is it a thing? Anyone else get sleeping limbs? It's a pain in the dick sometimes cause it will wake me up if I'm sleeping on my side the wrong way.

>>40057904
roids make blood thicker if i'm not mistaken.

give some blood donations every now and then, its healthy. or draw it like a retard with a 21g like glands did.

>>40057696
Lol post it here then.

>>40057930
I will next month. I've been on accutane. Don't want my donated blood to mutate some baby. We have enough freaks

>>40057972
Dont really feel like that would fit in this thread considering I don't roid.

>>40057584
>penny stock pharma

back in high school a buddy and I did a mock project in finances class where we invested $10,000 over a period of 3 months and tried to make as much as we could, winner got some candy or some shit.

Everyone in the class (retards, normies) were in the negative, except my friend and I.

we made upwards of ~8mil USD and I was legitimately depressed for weeks because if that was REAL FUCKING MONEY i would have been set.

FUCK

>>40057607
someone recommended it, it was either you or cap. Probably you. In at 5k just for the hell of it, same as I am with buttcoin

>>40057843
>never let feelings interfere with trading.
Yeah, hardest part by far. Will check out Trefis - looks cool.

>IMNP
IMNP has been terrible historically. Gets pumped over the most trivial non-news (R&D meeting, development panel discussion) and then dropped hard.

Saving grace could/will be positive bmab results for colitis and Bullous Pemphigoid. But we have to balance the possibility of positive trial results with an impending R/S which will likely be followed by an offering (which will tank the price in short term - which would be the ideal entry point).

>not messing with Jew stocks

Don't you feel like joining forces with the Jews to make some $$$? IMNP is full of jews, lots of pharma companies have branches/trials in Israel. They may have their own interest at heart but they can't stop the smart goys from riding their tail and getting a piece of the action too.

But staying out of pharma is wise. It's very addicting and easy to get emotionally invested.

>tell myself I will go to the stupid ass events I always see in my college email, they actually sounded fun most of the time
>the only one today is a fucking funeral

lol

I had social anxiety at the start of the day and it's completely gone after like an hour. That was faster than I expected

>>40058002
No one does. Lol
Post it.
The worst that happens is you accurate criticism.

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>>40058069
aight.

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>>40058069
>implying mast won't bully him and his mother for being dyel

>>40058120
Not bad. Stats? How long you been lifting?

>>40058140
It's possible. But mast is pretty good about not shitting on people who are trying to improve.

>>40058120
Back and legs?

>>40058066
Did you go to the funeral?

Was it open casket?

>>40056903
There's no such thing as a diabetic episode, you're talking about hypoglycemia and hyperglycemia, of which all insulins are used to treat. Again, they have different profiles but act in exactly the same way.

They also don't shuttle nutrients. Please don't talk about something you clearly have no idea about.

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>>40057686
>mfw people are word for word repeating my advice i gave 2 days ago

well, i guess you know what to do now that someone with a tribgode has told you to do it.

>>40058187
No I ate then slept for like 4 hours then ate again

Lel

>>40058197
You're being a bit pedantic.

Yes specifically there's no medical"diabetic episode" but in context it's pretty obvious what he means.

Insulin might not directly carry nutrients across the cell membrane but it does signal the cells to take in nutrients.

>>40058246
No, insulin used to treat hyperglycemia would kill someone. It isn't.

and no, again, it's glucose and glucagon to and from 75% fat and 25% muscle

>>40058275
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/744866_4
>Insulin is the preferred agent for glycemic control in hospitalized patients. The pharmacodynamics of insulin allow it to be adaptable to the changing physiology of the sick patient, is easily titrated, and has no dosage threshold. Furthermore, insulin has a rapid onset of action, minimal side effects except for hypoglycemia, and has minimal drug-drug interactions. The ideal insulin protocol will help reach the glucose target range timely, effectively treat all degrees of hyperglycemia, minimize glycemic variation and the risk of hypoglycemia, and is easy for nurses to carry out in a timely fashion.

And what the fuck
>it's glucose and glucagon to and from 75% fat and 25% muscle

Is this supposed to be referring to?

So how much of sdrol gains is actual gains and how much is temporary glycogen? Getting tempted

>>40058333
How about you try eating more and training harder instead of just upping the dose?

>>40058144
exactly a year now, starting with ultra skelly mode @ 55kg

BP= 65kg 5 reps
OHP = 45kg 5 reps
Squat = 80kg 4 reps
Diddly = 135kg 3 reps

>>40058175
back seems to be my strongest group but can't get a flattering pic because of shitty mirrors and ridiculously bad back acne.

all my back lifts are intermediate while the rest are on the border of intermediate or novice.

also close to 0 legs, no reason really. was just a typical "lel skip leg day" fag for like 8 months.

>>40058352
Cuz I do that already

>le less is more meme doses

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>>40058275
>I have no idea how insulin works or how to utilize nutrients properly to adapt it to my body

Ohhhh. Maybe it's because I have a working pancreas and I'm not a genetic failure that would have died by 4.

>>40058421
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10331397/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC287971/

Just a few sources.

i am about to attempt to irrigate my glands using a water pick (came home cuz forgot a bunch of shit here such as my apparently broken laptop... gonna go back in a few mins)

ask me anything

>>40058552
can you pls livestream your untimely demise

>>40058572
We'll see how everything plays out

If I am still a forever alone loser fag with no social contact in probably a month or two then we're talking. Keep in mind I am also in a garbage mood right now from being bloated as fuck from dbol and then crashing my estrogen trying to get rid of the bloat. 0 sex drive atm

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>>40058599
Dbol bloat is easily managed when you balance water and minerals, while understanding which carb sources bloat you.

Pic related 1g test 20mg dbol preworkout

>>40058619
I was eating the same shit before and after, in the same amounts. keep in mind I am even on tren, so I could probably eat like shit and not get bloated anyway (from experience). Literally only oats and rice and quinoa as carb sources and post workout sweet potato along with an insignificant amount from random vegetables.

Should I sit here and force feed myself 4 gallons of water? I fucking hate this shit. I have a pic of my face from the first day I took it (jan 9 I think) and today, and holy shit. I literally lost 5 points off my face it is so bloated

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>>40058022
> joining forces with the Jews

You don't understand the situation. You're dealing with people that have been kicked out of White nations over 200 times and they still hold to...

> they did it for no good reason, only because they hate us for being Jewish

The Ashkenazim consistently vote Democrat in every election. Hence why all Jewish senators are Democrat with exception of fucking Bernie Sanders. I don't even believe they're in full control of themselves anymore, I see them like clever animals, but slaves to sin nonetheless. You'll never convince a Jew to abandon their natural Marxist agenda. The minority that are in control of themselves are branded 'self-hating Jews'.

To the so-called Jews present here; can you really not recognize why 'anti-semitism' is yet again on the rise? Is it a reason that doesn't involve blaming goyim? Welcome to the winning side of history; you will be spared, it's nothing to do with 'simply being Jewish' and it never was.

Hell, I bet 90% of the people here assume blacks were prosecuted in Nazi Germany. Why do you think that? There's zero evidence. German women love black cock and, looking at modern Germany, so do the men. Hitler loved niggers. The only rule was 'no black cock for aryan women' and that was mainly a populist measure and actually rather liberal considering at the time in the United States, you're still hanging niggers for much less than sleeping with a white girl.

When you realize there's no basis to believe that one lie and the resulting implications, it becomes easier to accept the truth. The victors wrote the history.

>>40058619
Also since you apparently know all about insulin, how badly do artificial sweeteners fuck with your insulin? Unflavored whey is disgusting but I'll deal with it if it makes a difference.

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dopey still alive, hardly post anymore

life has gotten better and back to lifting

50tren EOD
500eq
350test

>>40058664
Okay so first step is to calm the fuck down.

You're trying to micromanage every variable at once without understanding which variables to focus on.

Let's recognize first: all injectable oils will increase water retention, this is why pros cut all oils week of contest. So saying "I'm also on tren" really doesn't balance out water retention.

My first suggestion is reducing all oils to a manageable dose. I get by on just 350-525 tren a.

Now we need to assess diet; have you experimented with carbs to see which carbs do in fact bloat you personally? Oats and sweet potatoes still cause excess water on my core. Seems white rice, white and red potatoes, jasmine rice and basmati rice are the carbcsources that agree with me best. You need to spend a week cutting out all carbs aside from one. If that bloats you on to the next carb until you find one that fits your needs.

Next step is water and minerals, you can drink water all day but excess water without proper mineral balance will deplete electrolytes and leave you puffy. Try adding magnesium and potassium, in reasonable amounts. I find 400-800mg mag from supplementation and 2 white potatoes (1.6g potassium in an average white potato) to balance me out okay. You can buy "salt" that is potassium balanced too. Don't supplement with pure K, you can mess some stuff up cardiac wise.

>>40058694
Sucralose will be your major culprit here with sports supplementation. Sucralose does seem have a positive impact on insulin and blood glucose, meaning it does provide a response despite not being sugar.

I don't notice bloating from it, but sucralose is listed typically as "other ingredient" meaning it's less than 1% weight of the total product. Mostly a negligible impact from 3-5 scoops of whey VS supplementing Splenda in everything that needs sugar.

>>40058745
>>Now we need to assess diet; have you experimented with carbs to see which carbs do in fact bloat you personally? Oats and sweet potatoes still cause excess water on my core. Seems white rice, white and red potatoes, jasmine rice and basmati rice are the carbcsources that agree with me best. You need to spend a week cutting out all carbs aside from one. If that bloats you on to the next carb until you find one that fits your needs.

i don't see how this is relevant if i was dry as fuck since starting tren, and then without changing anything i was eating at all, took dbol then got bloated as fuck. lol

>

Next step is water and minerals, you can drink water all day but excess water without proper mineral balance will deplete electrolytes and leave you puffy. Try adding magnesium and potassium, in reasonable amounts. I find 400-800mg mag from supplementation and 2 white potatoes (1.6g potassium in an average white potato) to balance me out okay. You can buy "salt" that is potassium balanced too. Don't supplement with pure K, you can mess some stuff up cardiac wise.

sounds complicated fuck, brb drinking 4 gallons of water and taking multivitamin, winging it.

>>40058795
guess i will just keep gagging down unflavored then, when chicken is unavailable

>>40058734
mirin paws

>>40058835
What is paws

>>40058807
>I'll ignore the advice

>>40058884
paws, like bear paws or such. mirin forearm/wrist/hand size and ratio is what I meant. yes I know, autistic thing to mire, but still.

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ffuuuuuuck cardio

>>40058683

and now we're back off the deep end

I swear you're like a walking, talking, stream-of-consciousness vomiting, perfect example of the genetic link between intelligence and mental instability

>>40058734

hey, fuck you and your delts

>>40058683
>the so-called Jews

https://youtu.be/0hPcuw9fYAw?t=445

7:25

>>40058976
tfw all the gains that were meant for my chest went to my delts

tfw still shit chest after all these year

>>40059020
Accidental delts. I wish I had your problems m80

>>40058409
>back seems to be my strongest group but can't get a flattering pic because of shitty mirrors and ridiculously bad back acne.
Then post a shitty pic. You're anon who gives a shit

>all my back lifts are intermediate while the rest are on the border of intermediate or novice.
You have no clue what you're talking about

>also close to 0 legs, no reason really. was just a typical "lel skip leg day" fag for like 8 months.
So yeah that confirms it.

You're a curlbro. You only look good from the the front with weird MySpace angles. My suggestion is to stop fucking around and do some heavy ass lifting. Go look up Ronnie doing some back work if you need inspiration

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>>40053993
fuck this shit I'm going to just pin 1g of T and see what happens , I don't care anymore

>>40058745
>Oats and sweet potatoes still cause excess water on my core. Seems white rice, white and red potatoes, jasmine rice and basmati rice are the carbcsources that agree with me best.

Ok explain to me how this is biologically possible, because this sounds like Maximum palcebo

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>>40059069
>you have no clue what you're talking about
>you're a curlbro
>do some heavy ass lifting

i know this is bait but you seem really out of place. if this is legit i'd love to see your body and the results you have to back up those statements.

>>40058619
You talking about calcium/magnesium and sodium/potassium particularly? I think I'm going to start tracking those soon.

>>40058734
>DOPEY POST IN A THREAD I'M ACTUALLY HERE FOR

mirin

you're still in texas right?

I should visit you and that asian anon who hooked me up with information when I come to TX

>>40059166
Some foods are glycemically different and absorbed faster or slower in the small intenstine impacting how efficiently they are utilized.

This causes a huge variable among individuals because nobody absorbs any particular nutrient in the exact same way. Pancreas function, existing bacteria in the small intenstine, and the specific food will all impact how it's utilized.

Do you think fructose and glucose are utilized the same despite both being "sugar"?

>>40059173
All of these are electrolytes and should be managed but magnesium and potassium in particular.

I have 14x25mg dbol and like 15x25mg anavar

Is there anything I can do with this aside from buy more? I'm just cruising right now

>>40059168
>Hurr some meme fucking website says my bench is 10% behind!

That website doesn't mean fucking shit and you're a goddamn moron for putting any stock in it. Relative strength in any lift has a fuckton to do with insertions and limb lengths. Just because your pullup is some arbitrary percentage higher than average according to a stupid algorithm that means fucking nothing, doesn't mean you have a strong back. I can see from the front how thin your traps are, and your deadlift is weak as fuck.

Can't take criticism? Don't post pics and ask for it. No one is here to suck your dick.

>>40059245
The thing you should do with both of them is toss them into the trash

Dbol will make you visually gain 20% bf and the anavar will fuck your lipids for no reason and is actually probably winny or dbol anyway

>>40059277
Lmao no

The truth is you just don't have the proper response mechanisms in place to be successful on gear. You don't respond how you should and I recommend finding a different use of your time.

>>40059245
I mean, they're orals you could potentially up your diet for two weeks and eat them for masssss

anyone else feel weird face swelling sometimes when they take viagra? seems pretty manageable but gotta make sure right?

>>40059287
>get good as fuck response to test and tren the only compounds that matter, get shit response to dbol landwhale waterbuffalo garbage

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Lifting like 4 years i've not changed in the past 1.5 years

How to sterons?

Can men use anavar

>>40059330
Look at your face. You don't respond well.

And you don't post body so no one really knows.

>>40059336
Reddit steroids wiki

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>>40059336

>>40059338
>face is still fucked up but getting actively better every day while on 860 tren and 250 test 40 accutane and losing 0 hair

Not posting body cuz
>roiding for this
But you would cringe and kill yourself if you saw what I looked like when I hopped on, it was so fucking disgusting I cannot believe I did not kill myself.

>that last fucking 3kg before you hit 9-10% legit bf

Fuck sake this is always the worst.

Cant wait for my 2 week holiday so i can just psmf myself at a 2k deficit plus clen and get this shit over with so i can finally very slowly bulk.

>>40059423
Speaking of this I saw some memes on reddit where you can only lose some shit like X amount of calories per LB of fat on your body, and any more gets taken from muscle unless you use dnp to enhance it. How true is this? I think it was like 39 cals per lb or something but don't remember at all

>>40059395
fuckin A

no homo

>>40059409
Have you ever heard of a "dose-response curve"?

If you're trying to grow, you have to actually eat and get bigger. Taking hormones just dictates how the food is processed. You can't grow muscle out of thin air.

>>40059445
there is some science to it but reddit has its collective panties in a bunch over it way more than one should

>>40059355
Seems like too much effort im a lazy cunt

>>40059277
I took them both before already, these are just leftovers

>>40059315
You really think 2 weeks of this shit will do anything at all? might just be a waste of hormone fuckery

>>40059445
Here's the actual study

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022519304004175

Greg Nuckols said he talked with the author and he said the math was wrong in the published study, and it was closer to 22kcal/lb of fat.

>>40059499
HYPOPHAGIA

>>40059478
What's the difference between two weeks and six weeks besides just more time for growth?

Your test levels aren't gonna go anywhere since you're cruising. I don't see how it could be a waste.

>>40059457
and? where do you keep getting the impression that i don't eat like some fucking hardgainer reddit kid? if i am already eating and training to the best of my ability, le upping the dose can only be beneficial. what else am i supposed to even do, if not lift 5 times a week, cardio off days (sometimes, lel), and eating 750-1000 above maintenance

actually this made me think. why is reddit either all "hard gainer" fags and asians who weigh 160lbs or 30% bf permabulk fat fucks, no in betweens

Would a sudden drop in test cause libido issues even if your AI is mostly on point? Was using 100mg/eod of test P in a cycle on top of my 250mg test E cruise and seem to have pretty shitty boners since I stopped the extra test a few days ago. Never had a problem cruising on 250 mg

>>40059555
It's possible that you've crashed your estrogen with too high of an AI protocol based around your previous dosages.

>unrelated

Which organization should I go through if I want to get my personal trainer cert so I can quit my shitty job at a restaurant and instead have a shitty job at a gym?

>>40059512
Are you actually gaining weight? Is the scale going up and are your lifts getting slowly stronger?

Increase calories if the scale is moving too slow. Cut back down and up the dose if it looks like you're only gaining fat.

And before you go on a rant, you're gonna gain fat if you're bulking. It's about proportions, if you put on 1lb of fat and 1lb lbm, thats what, 3 days at 1000kcal defic and you have and extra lb of muscle. And if you go slow it will be closer to 2lb+ lbm to 1lb fat. Just bulk up to 15%, maintain for a bit, then slowly cut back down to 10% and repeat.

Only up the dose of all you gain is fat. Tren can help the ratio of energy stored as lbm vs fat, but it can't make you grow out of thin air, you have to fucking eat.

>>40059577
I wanna be a roidy PT too. Lmk how it goes.

>>40059577
>crashed your estrogen with too high of an AI

I didn't even take anything for the estro since then, though I did up the prami before the end to help with the tren nipps- is crashed prolactin a thing?

>>40059611
I actually am unsure about crashed prolactin, though I assume it's possible. Personally, prami just generally makes me feel like shit and murders my libido anyway.

>>40059611
>>40059611
>>40059621
>I didn't even take anything for the estro since then

this may also be a high estrogen issue too, then. It's possible that at 250mg you still need an AI. Especially if you switched gear vendors and you're using stuff that could be potentially overdosed compared to your last batch when you rang 250 with no issues.

Lot of factors, I'd look into the prami first though.

>>40058976
>ffuuuuuuck cardio
Aren't you on GW? Lately has been helpful in mitigating the "FUCK CARDIO" feeling I get during/after cardio a bit.

10mg/day. Actually doesn't taste like shit with just OraPlus (unlike memeK).

>>40058985
This video was taken right outside where I used to work. These guys were quite retarded - at least the Jehovas witnesses who also sometimes occupied that space were always polite and well dressed.

>>40058683
>victors wrote the history

Yeah, I'm fairly familiar with this stuff. Another example is how the whole "Hitler walked out on the black runner who won the race" thing has been debunked by the guy who won the race himself.

There's also a saying that you can tell who is controlling you based on who you're not allowed to speak out against. Same sort of idea you're describing.

When it comes to stocks/trading, however, you cannot ignore/discount jews' ability/propensity for amassing shekels. Now, in some cases (bernie madoff is the first that comes to mind) you'll have shekel accumulation at the expense of clients/shareholders. But on a corporate level, fucking over the shareholders without fucking yourself over is really hard to do.

Also, I feel like there is a rabbinical master-caste in the Jewish hierarchy that is much more sinister than the assimilated capitalist/nationalist Jews that create great tech and drugs. But I don't blame you for having the knee-jerk reaction you do. I am the same exact way in the realm of entertainment (content-wise). But look at these entertainment companies on a corporate level - great returns for the Jewish producers (and the shareholders, as a consequence).

>>40059149
b-but we can help you do it in a way that doesn't fuck you up anon
Pin 250mg/week and come back once your head's right at least

>>40059586
>Are you actually gaining weight? Is the scale going up and are your lifts getting slowly stronger?
no, i am a reddit hardgaining asian who injects gear into his ass to lift the same weights every week and stay the same weight and make no visible progress

>you have to fucking eat.
where are u getting the meme from that i dont eat, over and over again

>>40059689
This may sound like a weird question, but are there people in your life that you respect?

Like, are there people whose words you try to see the best in? Whose advice you take to heart even if the import of the advice isn't abundantly clear as soon as you hear it?

Wondering because you sound like you haven't really found someone like that in your life. I don't blame you for it. The way you argue and interpret things is totally reasonable/necessary if you're surrounded by idiots 24/7.

>>40059506
His opponent has taken him to the bottom of the sea!

>>40059726
i should not have keked at this, but i did

Libido increase on trest is insane, doesn't even come close to tren.
Girlfriend can't keep up, she's constantly sore. Need to find another.

>>40059724
uhh

no. lol.

>you sound like you haven't really found someone like that in your life.

maybe because i don't have anyone in my life except my dog and family that i despise. lol. 0 contacts in my phone, epic meme

>>40059173
what are you coming to Texas for?