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If you can't make sense of it, please include the following with your questions:

>age
>body fat percentage
>time spent lifting

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>>39943600
blacked edition

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Did we actually go over the limit or are the mods just swell guys who don't suck cocks?

why shouldn't I blast and cruise? just turned 18.

honestly?

I just purchased 100 grams of testosterone.

why shouldn't I run a 12 week cycle at 500mg, then pin down 125-250 for another 12 weeks, then run another 500mg cycle???

Always wanted to try roids, searched around online and came up with Nandrolone, 450 mg per week along with 50 mg per day of stanozolol for a beginner stack, taking nolvadex alongside it.
Is this good? Am i retarted?
Also where the fuck do i get this stuff? There are no juicers at my gym to ask and i havent found a website selling it that isnt totallynotfakeroids.com

>>39943763
Age 27 wt 240 bf% 20

>>39943763
just pin test and eat a bit of dbol.

keep it simple retard.

honestly I'm not sure if the general opinion here but complex stacks are useless desu.

just pin a whole lot of test.

nothing trumps just taking bigger doses.

>>39943621
what's this meme? dont get it

>>39943722
>>I just purchased 100 grams of testosterone.
if you're asking stupid shit like this, no you didn't

>>39943774
>wt 240 bf% 20
more like bf% 30

How long do you guys rest between sets? On heavy compounds and then accessories for volume?

I started on yohimbine to help me cut, is there any reason why I would not do my lifting routine at the same time in the morning?

Tomorrow I'll ramp up to what the calculator says is my normal dose of 12.5mg, but so far I honestly couldn't feel much of a difference; or at least nothing I wouldn't attribute to the caffeine.

>>39943895
wow

hardcore

that shit definitely matters and needs precise calculators and attention to detail

>>39943888
I sit on the seat of one of the machines for a good 20 minutes while checking my facebook, instagram, snapchat, whatever. The key is to be so involved in your phone you don't notice all the people who want to use the machine you're sitting on but not using.

>>39943888
compounds a lot longer than on accesoires. idk, i just kinda wait till i feel like it.

>>39943811
I did

cost me $200 for the powder including shipping.

spent another $100 on vials, needles, benzyl alcohol, oil, etc.

I have 25 grams of the stuff mixed sitting on my desk right in front of me, ready to go.

>>39943777
Ok, but to the question of finding it?

>>39943941
so you can read on how to do all that shit but not what you are asking now?

>>39943895
Youre a fucking idiot, and yohimbine isnt fraud so get out

>>39943421
>better nutrient partitioning on roids
>somehow they also provide better... lifting partitioning? whatever the fuck that may be

le ebin non sequitur trole

>>39943954
it's probably fucking alex
>>39943956
so "better" nutrient partitioning or "infinite" nutrient partitioning, because if it worked that way, roids would be based off of force feeding yourself 50k calories of "pasta and tomato sauce" a day to gain 50lbs of muscle a week

>>39943948
darknet

>>39943952
nope

>>39943763
>not knowing totallynotfakeroids.com only disguises itself as a scam site for protection from fbi

I have no Costanza face condescending enough for this.

>>39943811
6ft5in

>>39943981
Trying too hard at this point, here is your (you) but that was it from me.

>>39944008
every other fatty overestimates how lean they are, you are no different. even if you are actually 20% do you think it is a fucking good idea to bulk and get even fatter?

>>39943998
why do i kek at this every time

>>39944034
>"Yes, regardless, as in if you do the prior statement; "lift heavy, give an effort, and eat clean" -- calories should not matter."
so you are saying i can eat 50k calories a day of "clean" food and get leaner

>>39943895

>12mg

do you weigh 40 kilos?

>>39944049
meant for >>39944027

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>>39944083

>>39944170
ok time for you to voluntarily stop breathing

This is retarded but what are some exercises that will help with fucking?

>>39944302
it is pretty retarded

what are your issues exactly

>>39944339
getting better at thrusting, i had pelvic tilt before so that group of muscles is kind of fucked up

>>39943600

>39943449

I swear to god I could do it natty too without mk677

Ask any former fatty or fatty if they have a problem eating they'll laugh their ass off.

Open mouth, insert food.

>39943013

Not on gear. Sorry I just assume ppl know which retard I am at this point. Advice regarding refeeds still applies?

I've been refeeding for 4 days now because I am sick and want to heal faster.

Currently hitting muscle groups once every 48 hours with sets of 8-10.

>39942917

>eca
>fat loss

Is this true? My research seemed to indicate that ECA burned like 20-30 calories. That's nothing.

It just makes you meth'd up, that's why people use it, energy, appetite loss.

Right?

>39942544

So it depends on the guy, and the weight.

I am dyel and using bitch weight, so I can handle a lot of volume.

That said, lifting 7 days a week for hours per session supersetting gave me overtraining symptoms.

So once I encountered those symptoms, obviously, I knew to reduce my volume.

But you can do a lot lot more than 3x5 without overtraining as a natty.

I lift bitch weight so I won't offer advice to some natty doing 3x5 at like 2.5/3.5/6/7 or something like that.

Seems to me like your CNS would fry a lot quicker with so much weight.

Anyone know more about this, can offer an opinion? Thank you.

>39941841

yes, I am very weak.

4 months of cutting at large deficiet, started obese, skinnyfat now.

just so you guys know who is offering his opinions, lel

>>39944496
>>Right?
yes, people are just retards

>>39944496
>refeeding for 4 days

>>39944510
hahahahahahahahahaha

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What is it that we desire in life

>>39944496
You quote posts as well as you do anything else.

>>39944510
>>39944563

But I'm sick and it's impairing my quality of life and everyone here told me that if I did a refeed now until I was better I would get not-sick faster

I believe that too because of simple common sense. Obviously your body heals better with calories than at deficiet no? This is why rip and strength coaches want people to bulk, to reduce recovery time (right?)

>>39944500

Alright. I seriously doubt that people are going to lose weight eating like 5000 calories a day on EC like they seem to think they will. Seems almost like they confused it with DNP

>lazy sunday edition
>half of the posts are glands shitposting as anon

I'm 18, thought I was trans, realized I wasn't, and was on anti androgens and estrogen for 4 months

I'm 100% sure my balls have been fucked beyond repair, but I want to bring my test levels back to normal now

how should I go about doing this?

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>>39943800
>don't get it

Honestly brah, that's a good thing.

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>>39944181
I’ve lurked /fraud/ since the early days and never even posted once, but now I have to break my silence to voice my concern about how much of a humongous gaping cunt this anon seems to be.

I first thought it was all elaborate trolling, but the more I watch events unfold I come to think he’s actually genuinely like this.

You see, I am a tard wrangler by trade, and I’ve reached a point where I find more logic and sane thought in the incoherent sentence fragments of brutish Igor The Mongo who can’t even wipe his own arse at age 45 than I do in someone like this anon posting this unironically.

I’m not even mad (inb4), I’m appalled and worried. Either you’re so starved for attention that you don’t notice the downward spiral it has pulled you into or your autism is way past any spectrum modern medicine has come up with. Jesus Christ this site has been on a downhill slope for years but you reign among the top ten of most idiotic users, along with people who have killed themselves or others, ruined people’s lives thoroughly, or got made into the laughing stock of half the internet by memes.

Don’t even bother replying, I will return to lurking silently like I always have as soon as I send this. Please reconsider some life choices, then overdose on something lethal. Fuck you very much.

>>39944747

>only top 10

I have so much more room to improve

ONE DAY U MAY

>>39944747
I, too, hate it when the adequate gif for copypasta is already in use kek

fucking slavery starts tomorrow again. Getting fucking depressed thinking about it.

What is there more in life than just being a slave to this fucking system.

>>39944612
Money, muscle and looks

>>39944961
>What is there more in life than just being a slave to this fucking system.

What are you currently doing right now breh

That being said I never realized how true it is that so many people todays are literally slaves to their debt

I'm just finishing paying off school, then I have to pay off my car too.

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>>39944686
post boi pussy

>>39945028
Im like 30k in debt right now its bullshit
not even worth saving, id make less than if I paid off my debts

atleast Im getting my masters through work so I wont need 30k more in loans

>>39944961
I was passed over for a promotion because im not social enough
my job is pretty easy so I guess ill continue to fuck around for half the day but damn

I know you have a ps4
get idom@ster
thats all there is in life

>>39945028
I work in IT/application engineer. I could also be a business intelligence or IT consultant, but then i wouldn't have time for other stuff like eating and training. If i hear my old school buddies, that are doing that. It's a fucking nightmare

I also have a huge fucking student debt, but i don't have to start to pay it off until next year.

What are you currently doing then?

>>39945028
>>39945116
no debt at all here, just rent+food+utilities

still a fuckin slave

>>39944824
>replying to copypasta

mirin attitude tho

>>39945116
>because im not social enough
you got jacked brother. How is this even a legit reason. What were you doing again? Something with financial stuff i remember

up the tren dose to compensate for the betaness

That game seems a little bit too beta for me. Currently playing battlefield 1 and doom on ps4. STEP UR GAME UP

>>39945161
all i care about is food and steroids to get bigger

why can't i just suck black dick and not work for it like a slave

>>39945218
>That game seems a little bit too beta for me
Understatement of the year. I can see why jerry is such a fan though.

>>39945116

I got a lot of respect for you for paying for the operation yourself but you really should have let your parents pay for it and then paid them back when your debt was sorted out

You could've even given them a little interest if it made you feel better, once you had the cash and the debt was cleared.

>>39944644
yeah bullshit you are just another fatass making excuses, so much for that natty dedication

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What happend to that faggot that threatened me and told us that i was not making it to 2017. LMAO,

What are you faggots goals for 2017?

I want to get 110kg getting massive & save enough money for decorating my new appartement

>>39944664
fucking literally made me spit oats out onto my phone as i read this suck my dick

>>39944706
>>39944742
so how the fuck did anyone even understand this then, does everyone here watch fucking bbc cuckold porn?

>>39945382
it is a /tv/ meme

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>>39945218
yeah financial bs lol
I got way too fat after my surgery
Just look liek a fat guy with fatceps
I plan on atleast 2 1/2 more months of pmsf
starting low dose tren here at the end of jan just since I wont be eating anything for so long

>playing manly games because he feels like he lacks masculinity in todays wagecuck world
>meanwhile he could be controlling little girls to sing for him

B E T A

>>39945161
im saving so much on food on pmsf
Its incredible lol

>>39945241
its alpha as h*ck
>not having harems of little girls performing for you

>>39945252
yeah I really should have lol
Oh welll not like I'm too bad off
Just making easily manageable monthly payment for the next 8 years or soemthing
Probably pay it all off before that though

want my second cycle to be deca + test
advices for dosages?

>>39945364
run as much tren and get as much pussy as possible

>>39945402
please just run tren already and prove whether all the tren memes are true or not

everything goes into muscle AND it recomps!

>>39945405
150test, start at 100deca up 100mg every month

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>>39945405
>cycle
>deca

>>39945425
that's the worst advice ever

>>39945402
can u stop acting like surgery force feeds you tens of thousands of fucking extra calories

>>39945402
>censoring the word heck
are you 7

>>39945468
mentally yes

>>39945485
Fair enough.

>>39945364
setting up a comfortable as fuck apartement should be a legit goal for everybody, it makes life alot better.

>>39945116
>>39945028

I didnt know how many people are actually in huge debt, and i have always wondered how they end up like that.
I have been poor as fuck my entire life and i still am, and i never had debts besides owning alot of expensive things.

>>39945405
hang yourself

>>39945425
hang yourself too

>>39945516
>apartement
>should be a legit goal for everybody
aiming for the stars i see

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>>39945424
im eating far too little for a recomp lol

>>39945464
I got fat afterwards
thats the facts
I mean obviously it was my own fault
hydro + no activity meant I was missing my tdee by a mile

>>39945468
>>39945485
s*alty as h*ck
stay mad *ssh*l*

>>39945516
its all from school

>>39945429
what.
I know it's active for a long time, i'll wait for it to leave my body and then PCT

>>39945534
t*pk*k

turinabol rate plx

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>>39945402
I trust in you Jerry. Make us fraud again. Are you now fully recovered then?

i do it to feel better about myself, like you guiyz when you think i lie about the natty pics.

LET A MEAN DREAM

>>39945412
didn't you listen to richs latest advice on this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGYlc1uHWq4

BE PRODUCTIVE. Pussy is just for your ego.

>>39945516
it's my main goal right now. Aiming to save 10-15k to get everything i need.

>>39945640
as a kickstarter alongside test? decent dbol alternative.

only tbol? Kill yourself

>>39945655
as a kickstarter alongside test.
i want to take it instead of dbol, cause dbol got great bloats and other sides.

>>39945665
if dbol is a 8 then tbol is something like a 1

>>39945674
fuuck
does not dbol fuck up hairline quite a lot?

>>39945642
that pic is so cringey

does anyone have the pic of the comic about the kid whose eyes turned yellow? need it for a friend

>>39945642
yeah basically recovered.
Still not really doing much cardio though, my foots ROM is a lil impared

you finish gaining all your start of bulk water weight?
gunna get big

>>39943948
Got you senpai, email [email protected] it might be aol.com

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>>39945712
your mother is cringey

>>39945743
Good to hear Jerry, i couldn't think of losing you

Trying to keep the current shredds while gaining lbm. Started Monday when i weighted 96,3 kg SHREDDED

EAT CLEAN AND TRAIN HARD. You need the right mindset to make it in thise life jerry, i tell you.

>>39945730
that comic is real that shit happened here

Halo bro here, test p arrives on wed, just made 30 pound squat pr in week 2 of halo, 50 pounds to goal with 1.5 months of test and 2 more weeks of halo, love this shit so hard

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>>39945730

>>39945845
dude, it's -20 outside

How bad is being 5'9? Is it short enough that when you are shredded people just see an overcompensating manlet?

>>39945938
How strong is your squat now? I'm looking to get to a six plate squat from 540 in a month long Methyl-Test cycle that I'm starting in a week after this DNP.

>>39945999
375, but I'm a manlet if that makes it any better, triple bodyweight is at 405 when I cut to competition weight

>>39945982

ye

What is the difference between ibutomeren and ibutemoran mesylate?

mk-677 vs mk677 mesylate?

>>39946285
inb4 5 minutes later cap starts posting

>>39946032
how much of a manlet are we talking about here

>>39946318
5'4"

>>39946395
>roiding for this

>>39946285
I think pretty much all of it is mesylate

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>>39945382
Lurking /pol/

>>39946408
Lol the ultimate goal is the american record squat, at 540 pounds

>>39944686

How did you get the original hormone therapy?

>>39944686
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahhahahaahahah

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>>39946501
>manlet records
>mattering

The actual squat record is more than twice that.

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>>39946530
quality meme, friend

>>39946514
selfmedding online

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>>39946673
retard

>>39946673

fucking lol. this trans shit is ruining mankind.

Some fag at my gym just got banned for life for trying to sell a handful of testogel in the locker rooms.

Meanwhile a third of the regulars is going full Pianoman on my bathtub gear but nobody seems to openly notice.

Life is good.

>>39947175
would you buy steroids from a dyel?
nice going on the money gains

>Be 6'2"
>Going out with 6'5" girl tomorrow after work
>"Is it okay if I wear heels?"
How weird is this going to be?

>>39947402
very very weird

why would a 6'5'' girl even wear heels?

>>39947424
She's been mostly focused on my ambitions. I think she's into power, fame and basically just feeling ahead of others.

>>39947499
Would a girl like that be interested in a manlet who's the squat american record holder?

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>>39947527
I mean, probably wouldn't be a dealbreaker.

>>39945382
It gets spammed on /pol/

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>>39944302

Glute bridges.

>>39947564

I remember when /pol/ was almost entirely BBC.

>>39947402
how the fuck does a 6'5 girl even fucking exist?

>>39947774
That's why I matched with her. I don't believe it

>>39947794
The height difference won't be noticeable when she is laying in your bed. Fuck her deep and good my man and leave her with a pussy full of cum

>>39947794
i love tall girls. but i am 6,4 so thats different.
but either she will be the most down to earth girl ever or the most insecure girl ever. oh and then 3rd option is borderline crazy.
at least thats what i learned from my tall bitches. gotta love those endless.legs

>>39947885
Thanks motivational internet bro, you are my favorite.

>>39947886
I'm hoping it's 3.
First tinder match I'm just straight up meeting at their place with nothing prior. Would like to act out fantasy of fighting naked amazonian woman for my survival.

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>>39947402

Lucky.

What did she say about you wearing heels?

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>>39947964

>>39948502
>I'm a whole 5ft tall
>6'5'' girl
?

>>39948553
It ain't her, mossad was being funny guy and I played along.

>>39943600
Currently on DNP and my face is really hot and red, but the rest of my body is cold as fuck. I have the windows open with it being 15 degrees out. What's the issue?

>>39948746
youre dying, thats the issue

>>39948746
yeah that's not normal at all my dude

how long have you been on/what dosage?

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Laughed so hard I almost cried.

Guy is wondering if it's time to cut. Bulk seems to have went well!

It's good. 3 days ago, I would've been actually mad that people were telling him to bulk.

At this point I don't even care, I just wrote 'Hey I am lifting for a similar period of time and I look better just going from obese to skeleton recommend you cut also you gain less fat and more muscle bulking when you are this fat' and went along with my day

But enjoy collage. I am collecting these, going to make like a 1gb collage of dozens of these some day.

>>39949532
you think you look better than the guy in your pic? lol

>>39949532
>less fat and more muscle bulking

ugh I meant the other way around

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>>39949554

That's not even what I said, I said "I look better than I did when I started BECAUSE I want from obese to skele"

Have a photo of my rippeling asthetic frame though (don't let your gf see she might leave you)

Can you even believe this photo is dry, with no pump? No contest prep either!

Why are you arguing with me? Are you srs saying that he shouldn't cut? He needs to cut.

>>39949580
no, he doesn't need to cut at all

pretty much if he cares about the fastest results but doesn't care about his looks temporarily, bulking is the best choice. you're taking twice as long doing this stupid cut to skeleton -> bulk -> cut again shit instead of just bulking to slightly overweight then cutting

>>39949580
youve a fucked up torso

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>>39949580
you look absolutely, positively repulsive and you should never ever comment on anyone's body, progress or road to looking good ever again because you also don't know anything about training or eating

>>39949580
Please please PLEASE work on your fucking lats. God damn dude why haven't you been doing pull ups. You'd look great if you weren't a fucking box with arms.

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>>39949580
please eat
please deadlift
please stop posting

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What will happen to my natural test levels if I pin low to mid amount of test for a year or two, then stop?

>>39949699

>you'd look great

lamo I am years away from looking like anything shoo shoo

I believe I will get there one day though.

Truly do. Check back in 5 years. I think I'll be posting pics looking like I touched a weight in my life.

>lats

I was flaring my """"traps""" in that photo.

I am working on my lats, they are just minuscule and dyel. They are proportional though as every muscle on my body is in similar shape


>>39949674

>don't know anything about eating

im an expert fgt on eating

maybe not on looking good or making progress or bodybuilding or anything else but no one can out eat me

>>39949620

>pretty much if he cares about the fastest results but doesn't care about his looks temporarily, bulking is the best choice.

It was my understanding that once you reach 15% bodyfat, your hormone profile suffers.

FOr natties, this means a lowered quality of mass put on during a bulk, more fat, less muscle.

Keep in mind, that guy is very obviously natural.

So logically here,

>he gains extra fat on the bulk

So he has to spend longer cutting, reducing the time he can spend bulking, right?

Leading to slower progress.

Is this not correct.

Chem is right this place is a cesspit and everyone worth chatting w/ left or I already text.

Alex this place is yours. You're the last nail in the coffin for me. It's seriously such a shit hole that beginner naturals feel it's a place to discuss lifting.

That's what the entirety of /fit/ is for. You fucked it up guy. I can't stand your inane bullshit. I can't stand how worthless and putrid the place is.

#l8tr hos I'm joining chem

>>39949833
c-can you text me bimbo? I'm the halo guy

>>39949833
No one cares. Leave.

>>39949580
don't listen to the judgements on your body from these other posters. for what you've accomplished in 4 months is amazing. yes, you look like shit. but you just started and have came really far.
i truly honestly admire your autistic focus when it comes to cutting.
you're still a massive faggot and i don't even read your posts anymore because they're such shit. don't bother responding, i won't read it.

>>39949833

Alright alright calm down, you primadona.

I'll just leave so you don't can't scapegoat me for you not wanting to post here anymore.

I'll be here, enjoy your thread.

>>39950020

This is like the 10th time you said you were going to stop posting too, but you never do.

YOu will still whine about this general with me NOT IN IT, find some excuse to complain

But never ever ever do anything about it, (like stop posting) just complain.

Been injecting test c 2x a week Tuesday and thursdays in my glutes for a month now. Why is that all that's happening to me is that I'm just horny 24/7?

>>39950245
400mg/week btw. Forgot to put that.

>>39950245
because it's only been a month

>>39950286
But shouldn't I atleast notice a little big of change. Idk if my levels peaked yet.

So I've never donated blood scared to desu. Ive been cruising on 300mg test e for quite some time starting a blast of 900 test e, 600 eq, and tbol. If I don't donate blood on cycle will I stroke out

>>39944612

To be happy and content.

>>39950821
>inject heroine
>feel happy and content
>>39950686
maybe, idk. i'd say get a blood test, but you'd probably be too scared of that too.
why are you scared, anon?

>>39950849
Pass out from blood tests yet I'm okay with injecting myself with steroids daily. Fuck me.

>GP won't let me take test endec less than 10 week frequency
>even explained thanks to half life it will literally give me nothing in the 3rd month
>'no you'll be too high at the start again'

fuck me

>>39950930
doctors are fucking stupid about trt, news at 11

self medicate

>>39951184
excited to go back to your school now that you don't have horrible glands?

Just frontload 500MG of tren e. How long till that shit kicks in

>>39945940
Is this what nattys do to get shredded?

>>39951267
>tfw frontloaded tren e this week too
can we be cycle buddies

>>39943600
>clicked on pic of cute girl before reading the thread title
will roiding help me get a girlfriend who looks like that?

>>39943618
I did but the wiki didn't say anything about getting girls. It's like all the redditers are gay or something

>>39951328
Yes hello my name is ryan

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>>39943688
I think it just got slid - looked like it had reached the last page but I didn't bump it with the new thread in time to save it.

>>39951364
Depends on a lot of things. Just b urself

Oh my fucking God Alex has literally made a dyel autist general. Has Bimbo's heroic sacrifice to leave this general created a containment board for all of them thanks to Alex's desperate need for endless positive confirmation?

>>39951461
hi ryan, i'm eli.

what are your blast plans.
i'm going for 15 weeks at 400.

>>39951579
16 weeks at 500 tren 250 test e. Been cruising since September and before that I was.on a 500 test e blast

>>39951528
Yea I saw that. Atleast he's out of here

>>39944686
Blast testosterone

When should I come off?

I'm in my 30s and have been on for 1.5 years with only 1 blast though.

I don't wanna murder all my spermies.

sup gayboys. pinned some tren in my delt with 5/8ths of an inch needle and had a bit of oil leak out after removing the pin. now a few hours later i have a dull ache in the muscle. i was thinking a subq leak but ive never heard that described as painful. i had to reconstitute the gear (thanks winter) so it could also possibly be crashing in my muscle like bricks dhb slushie, explaining the pain. thoughts?

>>39944686
If I were in your shoes I'd kill myself but if that's not your first choice I'd go on a test e cycle with a dbol kick-start for androgen receptor uptake and then go on a very very harsh PCT prepare to want to die but hcg an assload of clomid and nolva and you've probably got a chance of being a man again. Good luck.

>>39951726
come off about 3-6 months before you want to start getting your girl preggers. with proper PCT and bloodwork you should be fine.

Does anyone have the memek677 brew your own solution image? Made by Cap I think?

Also, is there a need to cycle it?

>>39951781
It won't harm you to not cycle it but you'll see reduced effects if you don't as your body gets used to it.

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>>39945999
>I'm looking to get to a six plate squat from 540 in a month long Methyl-Test cycle that I'm starting in a week after this DNP.
>in a month long Methyl-Test cycle

>>39947197
>would you buy steroids from a dyel?

and to think my tax prep guy looked at me funny when I put tanks and booty shorts down under "business advertisement expenses"

>>39947402

climb her like a fucking spider monkey

>>39949674
>you look absolutely, positively repulsive and you should never ever comment on anyone's body, progress or road to looking good ever again because you also don't know anything about training or eating

thank god someone else said it

>>39949833

this place is pretty much just an outlet for my autistic screeching whenever the insomnia really kicks in

>>39951528

one can only hope

>>39951740

good god the memory of some of you people is almost disturbing

could be a bunch of shit including subq, try airlocking it next time

>>39943600
Is doing a cycle to reach max natural potential a meme?

>>39951817
to be fair it was pretty memorable, a thousand shards of glassy steroids ready to fuck shit up. i actually didn't airlock it that time, you're probably right. thanks brick.
>>39951886
cycling is a meme, max natty potential is a meme, you're a meme.

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Can the mind out do steroids any day of the week?

>>39952001
can your mind produce the testosterone of a hundred men

>>39947197
>would you buy steroids from a dyel?
No, especially not if they consist of like 100mg in mini satchets he probably copped off of his dad kek

>>39943600
This bitch looks dumb AF in those booty shape Skechers. What kind of know nothing dyke cunt buys into such a fad?

>>39943983
Buying raws off darknet or any steroids is dumb as fuck but good for you

If you can't figure out your own gear dosing but you're autistic enough to brew your own gear, well you're a cuck

>>39943941
You overpaid like crazy man
I'm glad there are idiots like you out there for me to make money off of though

UK bros do you buy your gear in the darkweb or on the normal web?

>>39951817
>booty shorts down under "business advertisement expenses"
good investment budy

hows the PR's going

Someone mentioned that mk-677 leads to a permanent effect on hgh production

Is this bullshit or what?

>one of the swolest and one of the most dyel trips leave at the same time
>this evens out, technically speaking /fraud/ quality is now still the same

my brain is full of wat

>>39952606
been gone for a few months, I noticed that Yolo left, what happened? Also who is(was) the swolest?

Can Estrogen be brewed much like how Test is?

>>39952772
Bimbo. Sad hes gone.

>>39952792
Yes you can brew estrogen, good luck finding a recipe tho

>>39952416
I buy my stuff from whatever store eroids has rated highest I have some favourites but no source talk but put it this way one source reigns supreme.
I don't recommend eroids websites for anyone outside of the UK though if they weren't legal here I'd probably go darknet.

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>>39952792
>>39952792

worse case scenario eat and drink nothing but soy milk and soy products for its estrogen activity. that and black licorice to reduce your testostrone levels.

then cut out as much meat and fats ass possible to keep your testostrone levels low, and as much saw plamento as possible to keep your DHT low.

but good luck on finding the brew for it.

>>39952890
I didn't like him anyways. I found Yolo entertaining though, did he get v&?

>this thread literally promoting steroid use to 18 and 20yr olds
>will absolutely ruin their lives

kek keep going lads people who don't do the most basic of research should be punished

>>39952897
>>39952989
I see.... So it's possible? I just want to save money on my tranny harem

>>39952993
No idea, havent been here in 6 months. You and me are both new returnees.

>>39953072
>be me 18 years old literally about to commit suicide from low test levels
>roid instead
Steroids saved my life fag

Will there be any positive effects to taking my clen in the AM before I do my weights sesh? With no plans to do a PM sesh?

>>39953228
you will be dead at 40 or need constant medical help after 30 for the rest of your life

you've made a mistake, death would of been preferable

>>39952993
He suddenly stopped posting so assume the worst

>>39953275
nice evidence boyo

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lads rate my life goal

>take roids, work cuck myself and go out maybe once a month (though I just want to spend all my time on 4chan and play mmos)
>age 50, have 250-300k and inherit a 4 bedroom 2 story house with a pool and garage in south east asia(flipland) from my parents
>now have assets equal to 100x the average flipfags lifetime salary
>still be blasting steroids but not as much
>enjoy lazing around and taking advantage of the dirt cheap labor and goods while spending my money bribing children and teenager to grind MMOs for me so I can wreck shit even harder

Basically tim sharky, but without the tranny's and recreational drugs.

and crimes.

and the murder of zyzz.

>>39953370
why you start gearing? What age?

I started 22/23, currently 27 blasting and cruising.

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>I just want fraud to be great again.

>>39953384

28 now.

will be blast/cruising till I die. I dont really think ill live past the 60s desu, but then again, who really wants to be 70-90+ years of age?

>>39952772
>Yolo left, what happened
common consensus seems to be that he died, a few claim he died skinny kek

>>39953420
>70-90+ years of age?

Almost anyone in this day and age considering you can be completely mobile and healthy at that age given proper maintenance on your part and non-shit genetics.

I don't see why a person would die in their 60's from cruising though, not even cruising/blasting. Excluding inherent heart issues.

>>39953463

well, arnold and stallone had lots of heart problems, and I don't think they took painkillers/other drugs which could've caused it.

>>39945940
what the fuck?

what actually happened to this guy?

>>39953420
>>39953463
>>39953469

Yeh bro commit to blasting and cruising for life and turn vegetarian/vegan. My diet is fucking immaculate. I eAt only to sustain myself life and look aesthetic as fuck. No to all other drugs.

See how the cards play out.

>>39953275
You insufferable faggot.
My doctor is keeping me at healthy range test levels a d watching my health go fuck yourself.

>>39953275
>>you will be dead at 40
yeah i will be dead at 40 from using brodoses, while pros stay on 5 grams of gear and hgh + insulin year round and live to old age. not to mention how literally every professional athlete in existence is fine

If u have gyno naturally even at very low bf% will I blow up into having super tits if I take 1 cycle

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>>39953758
>1 cycle

>>39953771
I don't need more than 1 I'm already super swoll and by super swoll I mean fat

>>39953771
haven’t seen that pic in a while. oh the memories

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>>39953813
>I'm already super swoll and by super swoll I mean fat

>If u have gyno naturally even at very low bf%
>even at very low bf%

>>>>1 cycle

I`m currently planning my first cylce.
I am a little bit worried, that at some point my strenght will outgrow my joints.
When I notice massive joint pain, can I just increase reps or do I have to lower the weights I'm using?
Is there any compound which is okay to use in a first cycle to aid joints?
Planning to just pin test-e.

>>39953483
Overdosed on vitamin K2 - miscalculated dosage 1000x or something retarded like that

Vitamin OD is nothing to fuck with.

Is there any way to safely blast and cruise long term?

What precautions and safety measures would I need to take?

>when u take ur last cap of dbol
pumps will be missed but not so much the disgusting moonface

>>39954097
>Is there any compound which is okay to use in a first cycle to aid joints?

Anavar, Deca.

>>39955069
stopped my adrol a few days ago and lost so much water weight from it, look 10x better without being on it desu. Pumps will be missed, but not the bloat.

>>39955269
seconding nandrolone, although if you're truly 'cycling' go with NPP

>>39955269
How much of either would be okay as an accessory?

>>39955319
how much did your muscles deflate? im scared that i am going to look even more dyel

>>39955349
not at all, granted I'm also on a low dose of deca so there's something to be had there in terms of muscle fullness.

Just lost a lot of the water I was holding around my midsection and leaned out a bit. Probably lost ~4lbs in water weight over a couple days.

>>39955069
I won't miss the lethargy but I really don't want to stop

I'm scared the test fully peaking won't make up for the lack of dbol gains

>>39955440
beginning of week 4 here btw... 7 more days and then it's over

excited to see the possible test sides people talk about though, I don't feel energized at all or different in any way because the dbol just makes me want to nap all the time.

lesson learned, I'm getting tudca for next time

>>39955440
Unfortunately it probably won't feel like it, you'll be great emotionally (coming from someone who actually had anxiety and depression diagnosed and while on cycle got dumped by the gf of two years and managed to not an hero) but the pumps will be about half of what you're now used to and a lot less vascularity your strength should remain about the same or increase in my experience.

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Any advice from taller anons on maintaining fullness? Even on test, I still suffer from the same fullness problems I had while natty meaning I'm extremely flat looking until late afternoon/evening. Coincidentally, the evenings are when I feel best and train 100% at.

>>39955493
not him but i noticed my vascularity decreased after starting dbol since it is bloating the fuck out of me

>>39955495
What's wrong with her teeth, is she British?

Train your core.

>>39955513
fullness as in muscle fullness lmao

>>39955508
If your estrogen is in check that probably just a genetic thing then I adjust my AI for the dbol period because I'm very prone to gyno so I like to stay on the very low end of normal e2 and therefore less bloat, that being said even with super low estrogen your diet will also cause lots of bloat on dbol but tb h I've never cared about bloat simply because if I'm on dbol I'm bulking anyway.

>>39955520
Eat earlier. Then train your core.

>>39955542
bulking doesn't have to mean looking like shit, lol. my e2 is in check, probably too low right now as a matter of fact. still bloated as hell

Speaking of dbol, help, it is making me starving no matter how much I eat.

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>>39955571
lmao train your core solves 90% of everything

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>>39955672
could be salt imbalance. but most likely your not eating enough fats to curb your insulin crashes after you eat an ass load of carbs.

or something of that order

>>39955857
>"Oh god I hope this doesn't turn into a porno, I just signed up for 'exotic modeling'"
>trollface.png
>mariah carey's hispanic cousin
>"I hope I get to fuck the black guy"
>"I GET ANOTHER GRAM OF BLOW FOR THIS SHOOT RIGHT?"
>tranny lips mctalltits
>retard

>>39955672
eat more, get huge

Ive not lurked in a while.

Did JM ever return?

>>39955971
nope

>>39955977
>nope
this disappoints my soul.

>>39955971
His presence is gone, but i can still feel the black transsexual bald dicks tingle in my head

>>39949580
I think you did pretty good knowing where you came from. Now use the same mindset to gains some mass and you might make it

>>39943600
Taking high doses of DNP and amphetamine simultaneously has led me to believe that I'm literally dying. Face is bright red and sweaty, but the rest of my body is freezing cold since I have windows open at 20 degrees; finger nails are turning blue.

How long does it take for DNP to clear out of your system?

>>39956102
about a week to clear out completely, but you'll stop feeling the effects after like 2 days

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Will 200mg of tren still give good effects as an icing to your aesthetics plus nutrition partitioning/fat burning?

I've gone from 400-600mg and I simply can't lower the prolactin enough (bit of brown liquid, no water retention or nipple pain tho) even with letro and 700mg of vitamin b6, caber stops the lactation but doesn't stop the nips from hurting without b6 and I'm just fucking drugging my shit up at that point.

I can handle test easy, literally 2.5g of test+eq, but it seems I'm sensitive to nor-19s and DHTs are not pleasant(thins my hair follicles, but does not shed hair).

I still want tren's ability to make you look ripped and the ease to lower/maintain your bf%, is 200mg enough for that?

test(derivative) only blasts fucking suck, at best you can be "kinda big" but never ripped and "big big".

>>39956063
>His presence is gone, but i can still feel the black transsexual bald dicks tingle in my head
Did they leave a dent?

He came back for a short bit spouting mad religious babble

>>39956185
high test low tren low-moderate eq imo

alternatively just test/tren. I'm probably going to stick with a high test > low everything else style of running my blasts now after really enjoying low deca/eq on top of test

>>39956206
>he came back for a short bit spouting mad religious babble

interesting, must've been when I was away too, missed that entirely

>>39956185
you can snort insulin?

>>39956216
>tren and eq
Rip bp

>>39956063
>but i can still feel the black transsexual bald dicks tingle in my head
You like to go deep, huh?

>>39956185
that faggot on the left is such an ugly faggot

his body looks shit too

>>39956393
speaking of ugly faggots wheres Bimbo?

>>39956393
Wut his body is insane

>>39956429
here >>39949833

>>39956433
he has this ugly roid dickskin fake tanned bag of smashed assholes look.

hes also sniffing his own farts to get a high on his own shitty personality. hes a fucking faggot.

humble jacked guys > all

>>39956285
yeah, it's actually being considered for treatment of Alzheimer's. doesn't mean it'll do shit to a normal person though.

>>39956499
he did that before, he'll be back.

>>39956216
I thought that with EQ the best way to run it is high EQ low test (according to reddit wiki).

Same sort of "conventional wisdom" with high tren low test (although here I think the logic is lower estrogen means you're less likely to get prolactin sides??) - so what leads you to do the opposite and run high test low tren/eq?

Self-administered TRT here - did enough research on test and just getting started understanding these other hormones.

>>39956544
regarding low test/high tren, prolactin is generally easier to control with estrogen in check. also some people report that the tren sides (agression, insomnia, mania, etc.) are reduced when test is kept lower even at very high doses of tren. however some people find that tren gives them sides at any high dose, regardless of test levels, so they run high test as the main compound and low levels of tren as a kind of polish.
for eq though, a lot of people claim that you need to run high doses of it (500+) to see a big effect, hence the low test/high eq. but its also possible that someone may find high test/low eq to their benefit, in the same way that some people prefer high test/low tren. endocrinology is nothing if not individualistic.

>>39956544
Eq is pretty weak thats why its advised high
But it has good qol improvements at lower doses

>>39956544
see>>39956664

also

>rip BP

definitely true, but with low doses of EQ it isn't awful

as far as high test/low tren or high tren/low test goes, it really just comes down to preference. I like the fullness of test and high dose tren just doesn't make me feel that type of way. I think running 1:1 test/tren at high dosages is likely overkill and can be really harsh on the body, so personal preference just leads me towards high test/low tren

all a matter of finding out what works for you

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low test guy here

just saw consultant endocrinologist today and he prescribed the gel stuff - reason being it supposedly works instantly while the test injections they give in my country take 2 months to see full effects (think this is one of those long lasting ones he's talking about not cypionoate - I didn't want to push him into prescribing that). He says I can ask for a better form of test like injections if this does something for me.

Anyway my question is will this fuck with my natural test levels if I come off or will it go back to normal? What will the effects be if it will -lower or higher natural test? Because I'm not really happy with this consultant even though he readily gave me a prescription, wanted to be more thoroughly tested - get more bloodwork done and look at my other hormones - all he did was ask me to take off my clothes off and feel my balls (no joke). So basically I was thinking I'll just stick with the prescription and no actual diagnosis of low test for the next 10 months, go off the meds for 2 months and enter the public health care system get it properly checked. Will this work?

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>>39952444

scaled doses back, taking a month or so to cut a bit more while ramping the black tops up from 2-6iu in 0.5iu increments every week, ironing out lingering hip/posterior chain and shoulder mobility shit, hammering form, also debating what I'm going to run once I reach peak gh dosing

high test/mast low tren, trt/cruise test with high dhb/mast and low-med tren, and I've still got 18g worth of trest deca left

>>39952993
>>39953338

he's still busy being a duck-faced cradle robber, don't worry

>>39954814

monitor bp, get at least quarterly bloods (free/total test, shbg, e2, liver panel, lipid panel, etc) plus an annual ecg to make sure your heart's good, cruise with a dose that allows for the bare minimum to ideally no ancillary use, don't yoloblast and don't shy away from pulling the ejector lever if shit gets too real mid-blast

come off every couple years for a few months to verify everything's still working, "easy" way is transition to short esters on cruise then use something like triptorelin to immediately restart your pituitary and make your balls wake the fuck up, get bloods 1/2/3 months out to verify trip's lh/fsh hyperstimulation effect is gone and hormone levels are gucci, then back on

>>39955971
>>39955991

even if people hadn't seen his chocolate starfish, I'm still here

>>39956216
>high test low tren low-moderate eq imo

what a coincidence

>>39956814
>ramping up the GH

how's the GH been treating you btw? Finding a lot of improvement from it at that dosage or just moderate all around QoL gains?

>>39956660
>also some people report that the tren sides (agression, insomnia, mania, etc.) are reduced when test is kept lower even at very high doses of tren
Yes, this was my understanding as well (call them group 1).

>however some people find that tren gives them sides at any high dose
This I hadn't heard of (call them group 2).

So what I'm taking away from this is that you should first run high tren low test (guessing tren A so you're not stuck with the effects too long) to see whether you're in group 1. Then, if the sides get horrible, then lower the tren and boost the test (because now you know you're in group 2).

Is that about right?

>endocrinology is nothing if not individualistic
Didn't realize the side effect profile for EQ/tren could vary so much from person to person (I know for test, sides like MPB and gyno are genetically determined, so I'm guessing it's a similar thing here).

>>39956664
I see. Also, I guess a large amount of the compound weight you pin is that very long ester, so I understand the idea.

Is the reason most people run test low with EQ because EQ can aromatise as well (so running one of them low reduces the total amount of AI you need)?

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152 lbs
21 y/o
5'8" Manlet
Debating whether to do my first cycle now or wait a few years till 25 or something till natty test drops. Got my test levels done few months ago was at mid high 400s pretty shit natty test levels.
Been lifting 3 some years first year doesn't count though because don't know wtf I was doing
What can I expect first cycle 400mg test only 12 weeks and should I do it?
Pic related it's me

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>>39956926
about 10lbs heavier than where I was when I started, pretty similar position only I had 0 prior lifting experience

Looking back, I definitely don't regret hopping on, but it was still a stupid decision because I didn't have training/diet figured out for at least 6 months of it. As long as you have that figured out, do what you want and fuck what anyone else says

but make sure you lock that shit in first, doesn't look like you have. Cut down a lot before starting.

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>>39956899

eh it's only been 2 weeks so far with today being the first of 3iu for week 3, biggest thing is improved sleep and some other minor shit but the sleep thing also coincides with cutting the tren in half

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>>39956966
That was a bad pic I'm pretty lean here's a better angle
What bf% should I be at before hopping on I'm around 9-10% currently

>>39956995
I keep telling myself I'm going to dig into my wallet for once and get some GH peps at the least, but can't bring myself to when I know I could be paying like $100 a month for a 'anti-aging' dose of GH

glad it's working at least in that capacity for you though. That's my biggest issue right now is sleep, and I'm not even on tren. Unsure what the issue is.

>>39957019
I have never before seen one person change so much because of a fucking camera angle

but yeah, based on that second pic you're more than lean enough to start if you wanted to

>>39957036
Lmfaooo yeah shit posture in first pic

>>39956814
>triptorelin
Thought this was the "use only when you know you're done with gear for good" drug. I know the GnRH receptor desensitization only happens when you dose it really high but it still seems to have that sort of reputation.

Ever used it?

>high dhb
Homebrew without guaiacol?

>>39956926
keep in mind that the progress >>39956966 is not just from a single cycle nor is it from test only

>high 400s natty
If you're not in a rush, you can try to cut further and take measures to raise test naturally (or do something mild like HCG).

One of the things I found very useful/essential in raising test naturally was getting cortisol under control.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2503954/

Look into phosphatidylserine (PS). Made me feel really good, improved my recovery. Even though I'm on self-administered TRT I still take it because of its neuroprotective effects (just search pubmed there are a bunch of papers on it).

Otherwise if you're going to cycle be sure to get your AI and PCT in pharma form. Good luck!

>>39957036
Ghrp an mod grf should be like a buck a day

>>39957087
ghrp 2 or 6? I really know nothing about peps especially the GH related ones, other than memek677

>>39957113
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>>39957078
>I know the GnRH receptor desensitization only happens when you dose it really high but it still seems to have that sort of reputation.

it's got that rep because people are fucking retards, it takes repeated continual dosing 30x higher than the 100mcg you use for pct to achieve and maintain suppression

haven't ever had cause to use it, but if some unforeseen shit happens then that's my first choice for coming off

>Homebrew without guaiacol?

going off the 150mg/ml 1:20 ba/bb 1:1 eo/oil slushie, I'm going to first try salvaging that batch by diluting down to 100mg/ml then maybe brewing the rest I've still got in raws

otherwise I'm going to be ordering a whoooole lot of eo and guaiacol

>>39957087
>>39957113
>>39957130

ipam you fuck

or $1/iu generics

>>39957164
>$1/iu generics
I've considered this, but I feel that I'd probably have to run 4-6iu just to account for the quality decrease. Not that it would really matter, still affordable enough

I'm so far away from *actually* needing to run GH anyway that it's laughable, I'd mostly just do a very low dosage purely for sleep and appetite benefit.

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>>39956206
I can feel it wanna make a dent from the inside out.

Why he left in the first place? Because we saw his penis? And how the fuck you find such pictures? I can't imagine going trough all the fucking gay porn on the internet to find the desired pictures.

>>39956379
It's all i live for.

We go all in, cause there ain't no such thing as halfway crooks

>>39956913
yep, that's pretty much exactly what you do. cruise on around 100-300mg of long-ester test and start with a small amount of tren ace per day, gradually ramp up each week until you start getting sides. if you're in group 1 you might be able to go up to 1.5g a week before you feel anything, if not you'll probably feel it at around 500+ a week. obviously your results may vary significantly.

>>39955942
>did that for first cycle
>just got fat as fuck

>>39957164
>ipam
Nice meme compound.

I want my cortisol and prolactin

>>39956796
>I didn't want to push him into prescribing that
maybe when you start your testosterone you won't be such a pathetic piece of shit

How lean should you aim to get before using aas?

>>39957558
5%

C M O N

>>39957164
running just 2iu / day is it worth splitting it in to two dosages or just go with one? Considering the cheap ass generics at a low dosage t b h

>>39957558
sub 15% bf, sub 12% if you can. being fat won't kill you but it will make AI dosage more difficult.

>>39957339
no way thats jm

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>>39957558
Lean like picture related lean. Otherwise you will end up dyel like the rest of these faggots. The choice is yours

>>39957586
Damn right it is. He left because he didn't wanna give us that inferiority complex. You can whatever you wanna say about him, be he was an honest man.

>>39957380
Awesome, thanks. Now the last thing keeping me from doing this is the thought of pinning ED. Even if it's a tiny amount like 0.25 mL, fact remains that I'm going to have to stick a 1-1.5" needle in my ass every day (but probably will start adding quads and VG to the rotation in that case).

>>39957673
lol why does anyone make fun of him if he looked like that

Is overtraining real? Feel like I have been working out too intensely for too long lately and I am always constantly fatigued mentally, especially afterwards.

>>39957964
because he's bald, partially also because he fucks nigger tranny hookers

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>>39957964
People always make fun of the best. It's what i encounter all the time. Envy and jealousy is what it is called. They wanna see you fail, they don't wanna believe you were natty in those pictures.

>>39957967
Not if you are on steroids, otherwise you're just a pussy.

>run tren
>believe reddit when they say just stuff your face on it
>do that and get so fat

>>39958114
nice bunk tren

>>39958138
So why did I get all of the side effects? Ran 60mg ed

>>39958191
>60mg ed
>expecting the 'you won't get fat' effects

this has to be b8

>>39958204
What do you suggest then 200mg twice a day? I can't even find any cycle reports of people who "stuffed their face" and tracked it either.

KALI MUSCLES ADMITTED HE USING TREN,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3EDqq9cSsY

>>39958230
>not knowing that everyone remotely famous is on tren

>>39957586
It's not. He was a big guy 4U, but that's not him.

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>>39958244
I am also famous, but not on tren. So where you is your allah now faggot

as long you believe it yourself, that's all what matter in life; believing in yourself

>>39958311
Can't even find a random pic of you on google

>>39958230
Who the fuck is that woman? She's awful.

>Start eating clean at same calories
>Dropping bf without losing weight

Fellas I've come across a marvel of human capability

>>39958422
How does this even work honestly? I have been noticing the same thing but how is a gram of carbs not a gram of carbs regardless of where it comes from?

Getting cravings bad and trying to find justification for eating like a fatass

>>39956926

If you fuck up you will be 5`8 forever

if you stay natty you might grow a few inches

>>39958465
>implying he hasn't stopped growing for like 4 years now

>>39958465
if he was 18 sure but he is fucking 21...

>>39958521
This. If you're going to be a manlet, you might as well be a swole manlet.

>>39958225
5grams brah yolo

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>>39958329
That's because you're searching for the wrong porn

>>39958420
So is your mother, but she still decided to put you on this earth. Why do you even have the need to breed with your genetics

Can't we just annihilate these ugly genetics from this planet once and for all?

>>39958724
Did I hit a nerve, MasT? Why so upset?

My girl is 8 months preggers and I just read a study that says males (fathers) test levels drop when a baby is born. How the fuck do I prevent this? I wouldn't have even got her pregnant if that was the case

>>39958795
he randomly insults people even when they are not talking to him.

nothing personal so dont get b8'ed like everyone else always does

>>39958801
nice meme faggot, did you read that on plebbit?
otherwise shoot 4000mg deca + no test base to leave humanity behind

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>>39958940
eat a banana, ya dingus

>>39958962
I am not craving a banana I am craving the worst kind of junk food you can imagine and I am not even hungry at all

>>39958801
>test levels drop when a baby is born
Low sleep, stress, cessation of sex, and generally having a shit life will do that to you when you're not taking exogenous testosterone.
>>39958915
Oh, got it. Sometimes I forget.

>>39958982
>worst kind of junk food

meat?

New

>>39959199
>>39959199
>>39959199

Wew fraud gens with two dubs in a row. Let's go