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injecting bathtub chemicals into your ass to attract loose women

we got rid of alex, glands is next edition

prev: >>39850958
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I have baby fever AMA
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thats a lot of blood on the gauge.

unless you nicked a vein on exit theres no reason there should be so much blood going out.
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>>39863416
impregnation isn't a fetish, it's literally what we were put on earth for
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>>39863462
yeah i know, AND IM FEELING IT

lets hope my 2017 GF is into that
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is this gen pro or against roids
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>>39863519
AGAINST, they're illegal you know
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>>39863541
okay
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>>39863429
I don't even look if there's veins on top of where I'm pinning. I just yolo in and then sometimes blood comes out like a fountain and sometimes nothing comes out.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdneKLhsWOQ
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>>39863692
good luck with the oil embolism retard
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>>39863706
inserting a needle through a vein is not the same as pinning inside a vein, retard
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>>39863718
with the care you inject i'd doubt you'd even notice.

retard
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>>39863474
>tfw wife is pregnant
>tfw possibly putting another fucking white male into existence
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>>39863840
mirin that hard, do her tits look better when shes preggo

>tfw one day waifu will say knock me up baby
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>>39863734
I bet you unironically thinks aspirating is necessary or even useful, too
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>>39863113
>ass irrelevant
no
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>>39863888
long hair and titties are the most feminine parts of a girl
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>>39863840
pregnant sex is the bees knees up until 8th month

call me a fiend I so do not give a fuck
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>>39863900
Gotta get some decently wide hips though, otherwise the risk of complications goes up.
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>>39863915
>>39863916
must be hot af, titties swelling with milk

are your wives into suckling
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>>39863900
>one detail being important rules out the others

Of course the general, whole look counts. But if she has a pancake or too ghettofat ass I will mind it.
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>>39863924
I don't know, she's not that far along yet.
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Someone fill me in on glandsboy. Last I heard he was heading to a specialist.

Digging in the archives will be a pain since he posts frequently. I just am in for the drama. Thanks
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>how does one get into steroids
>how do I get steroids
>difference between legal and illegal steroids
>Side effects
>Is it really worth it
>Is Creatine natty?


please answer
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>"i dont want kids anon, hahaha, too much work !"

INTO THE TRASH IT GOES

>>39863982
YOU EMAIL ME SO I CAN SAVE FOR THE BABIES
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>>39863916
Never heard about such, but then again mine has an ass like a horse so wide hips should not be an issue.

>>39863924
No, but neither am I.
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>>39863982
>>how does one get into steroids
They get into you

>>how do I get steroids
Ask that huge, red faced, sweaty guy at your gym.

>>difference between legal and illegal steroids
Cost mostly

>>Side effects
Possible heart and cardiovascular complications. Possible neurological complications. Possible gyno

>>Is it really worth it
No we just stick needles in our asses as kinky fetish shit

>>Is Creatine natty
As long as you don't bypass the liver by injecting it. If you inject it then it's 10x the effects and solidly unnatty
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>>39864015
the swelled up titties are so hot, milk must taste good and be good for gains desu
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>>39863982
>how does one get into steroids
4chins, reddit, local roider
>how do I get steroids
4chins, reddit, local roider
>difference between legal and illegal steroids
No clue what you are talking about. Simple stuff like test is legal with a prescription. some countries have over the counter test. Give me some examples of legal steroids.
>Side effects
Injected steroids: Cardiovascular issues, Neurological issues, Gyno,
Oral steroids: Liver problems, all of the above.
>is it really worth it
a good cycle yes, babby's first oral cycle no.
>is creatine natty?
Yes, its a dietary supplement. Meats contain creatine but in very small quantities. Using creatine basically is like a vitamin D supplement when you are deficient in Vitamin D.
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Hey guys, would someone be so kind as to help off a complete steroid noob into making a good 4 week short cycle?

I need to get in the best possible visible shape (and athletic shape) in 4 weeks, i'm going to Europe on a snowboarding trip and I will be living with 4 girls, who are pretty damn hot, plus a Model friend will also be coming on and/off to the place, plus all the post-snowboarding parties.

Anyway, a completely vain reason.

I thought of doing Test and Dbol, same dosage as a normal 12 week cycle, but cut it short at 4 weeks.

Training would include lifting at my lunch break, one muscle group (just 45 minutes to train) and i'd do Crossfit in the afternoon (I consider that cardio, since I won't be running much because I want the most amount of gains and vascularity possible).

So, would T and Dbol be enough? or should I add something else? also PCT should be the same as with a 12 week cycle, right?

Just to clarify, I already train, it's not like i'm coming off the couch, but my training schedule is mostly cardio (Boxing, MMA, BJJ, Running, swimming and on and off lifting/crossfit just to diversify a bit) so I'm clearly not the muscle bound kind of guy you'll find in this thread :p
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>>39864025
>Possible gyno
ew, no thanks
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>>39864025
>>39864048
Okay thanks (You)


What excatly is a gyno? Something to do with mantits I think

What can I take to just get more muscle mass and I could buy right now legally (bongland)


What do you mean by a "good cycle"
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>>39864091
>What excatly is a gyno?
Growth of breast tissue in men. It can be avoided if you're not an idiot.

>What can I take to just get more muscle mass and I could buy right now legally (bongland)?
Whey protein. It's legal to possess steroids in England but buying them without a prescription is illegal.
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>>39864054
Four weeks is a really short time for a cycle. What's your age, years spent lifting seriously, and percent bodyfat?
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>>39863982
SAUCE. I seem to recognize her somehow but the name escapes me in my hungover state.
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>>39864091
Gyno is the development of breast tissue by excess estrogen. basically simple said, steroids break down to estrogen in the body which in turn can cause that. You have other medicine you can use to combat excess estrogen.

>What can I take to just get more muscle mass and I could buy right now legally (bongland)
Unless your test levels are under average there is no "legal" way of getting steroids. The purchasing of steroids is a lot less dangerous than selling it.

>What do you mean by a "good cycle"
Jesus you really are a newfag. anyway, a cycle is a schedule of about 8-16 weeks in which a person takes their steroids. lets take an example with a standard 250mg/week test enanthate cycle.

this means that every 3.5 days the person will inject 125mg test enanthate for 8-16 weeks. after this they will start "PCT", post cycle therapy. You take Nolva/Clomid for a definite amount until your test levels bounce back to normal.

Some people also take medication for excess estrogen such as Aromasin Or Arimidex everytime they inject.
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>>39864030
It tastes kinda weird (not bad, just... different) and yes it is neat for gains but you’d need to guzzle it by the liter, contamination and storage issues aside. There is actually a black market for raw breast milk online but hahaha fuck no.
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>>39864200
is your wife into it?

god, i need to get a gf
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>eat vegetables instead of just chicken rice oats etc
>Get violently ill

I bet the FUCKING jews poisoned my broccoli
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>>39864222
I’m >>39864015 so nah. Tasted it for science though, was weird but interesting. No sizable gains sadly kek

Also checking dem trips.
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>>39864015
Hips too narrow can make c-sections more likely or even mandatory.
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>>39864222
>Not impregnating a small harem so that you have a constant supply of thick creamy pure gains

What are you even doing with your life man?
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>>39864272
i know

im going to ask every girl i meet how many kids they want, if its not at LEAST 4, theyre getting the boot
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>>39863416
no babies till i'm fiscally solvent
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>>39864222
Look into cult indoctrination techniques. Shit worked for John Smith and Muhammy, plus Lubbard.

If it works for absolute retards like those it should work for you. Guaranteed loyal to a fault constantly trying to please you qts who carry out your every order as if it were the will of God.
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>bouncing last night by myself
>3, 2, 1
>Happy New Year!!!

>Everyone is laughing and kissing and hugging
>Remember the chick I love moved away with her bf that she hates but won't leave
>Remember the girl I was fucking for a few weeks told me to go easy on her because she got dicked too hard by somebody else the night before
>Remember another girl I was fucking told me she couldn't talk the other night because she was on a date
>Realize how pathetically alone I am
>Literally almost start crying

Not like I loved the other bitches or that we were exclusive but wtf is wrong with women? "Don't ask don't tell" at the very least god damn.

Going to the gym to kill the bad vibes now

And to top it all off I'm ISP/range banned from 4chan on my phone for some fucking reason
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>>39864282
>im going to ask

*Tell* them how many kids you plan on having.
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>>39864350
theyre gonna change their answer based on what you say, i want the TRUTH
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>>39864327
Sounds like you need some aromasin.
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>>39864268
Aaah I see, yeah that’s possible (although not as big a factor as some think). I for some reason understood your post as narrow hips being bad for pregnant sex and was fucking confused.
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>>39864372
Haven't been on AI at all in months but I'm cruising and felt like I haven't needed it.

Maybe I do.
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>>39864385
Just because you don't have tits doesn't mean your estrogen is low, you might still need a bit of AI. Especially if you're tearing up over some random pussy or lack thereof.
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>>39864312
I like your style.

>>39864304
hahahahaha
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>>39864399

Normally I can tell emotionally when I need some but this shit snuck up on me out of nowhere. I'll jump back on for a bit and see what happens. Only have adex now unfortunately
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>>39864385
>Haven't been on AI at all in months
got bad news for you son
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>>39864427
Meh, just take a little bit and see what happens. Then again despite what we'd like to believe here there are problems in life not rooted in hormone levels.
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Thoughts on short 2 to 4 week cycles? I'm thinking about running tren ace and dbol at 50/50 ED for 4 weeks. My real question is how much pct is needed? 2 weeks?
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>>39864541
Tren and dbol? That's an odd combination.
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>>39864550
From all of my reading, they apparently go very well together and are like the whole is greater than sum of the individual parts type of thing. 50/50 is better than 100 mg tren or 100 mg dbol.
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>>39864399
>Especially if you're tearing up over some random pussy or lack thereof.
usually two things i notice happen that let me know my estro is too high
1. watching a show and getting a lot of feels from it
2. think to myself " i haven't cried in a while"
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>>39863991
Stoya lemme fund babies. How do I get email
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>>39854244
I wasn't almost homeless, I was homeless. and that was this year. Well I guess now technically last year, but yeah only several months ago.

Sounds cliche but its always darkest before the dawn is really true shit. Keep your head up lads. The lot of us are all still young and are supposed to be going the hardest trials and tribulations of our lives. Most people don't truly get their shit together till their 30s or late 20s
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Anyone have thoughts on SARMs, especially MK 677?
I've been lifting for 9 years, and this seems more appealing to me than even test. It agonises ghrelin, which increases both appetite and GH secretion.
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>>39864798
>buying from stoya
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>>39864825
meme compound.
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>>39864825
>I've been lifting for 9 years
post body so we can all laugh

timestamp only
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>>39864825
Cap pls you are unrelentless

Just send me some free mk677 and ill shill for you like i did stoya
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>>39864825
>cap making shill so obvious it goes full circle and becomes effective again
so fucken meta
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>>39864900
>ill shill for you like i did stoya
lots of newfriends here who don't know who you are
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>>39864933
that honestly makes it more fun
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>>39863416
>tfw same feel and T-2 months until impregnation of qtczgf

Little baby ThomasT is going to be shorter, hairier, balder, uglier, and weaker than his dad

slav master race

>>39863840
>>39863915
fucking jealous of pregnant sex t b h

just wanna fugg qt preggo gf
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>>39864973
the scariest part of this thread is imagining you and stoya as fathers
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>>39865012
I'm gonna be a fucking great dad

>force qtczgf to eat clean 'chicken/broc/egg' style diet and maintain her active lifestyle for embryotic gains
>continue whole/natural foods trend throughout childhood
>homeschool only, propaganda free in rural community
>teach child to hunt and be self sufficient
>this entire time raise him with 'anti-aging' dose of growth hormone
>start him on B&C for life after puberty naturally begins
>introduce low dosages of tren in cycles throughout

I'm going to raise a conqueror

either that or a serial killer
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>>39865012
>inb4 hgh in baby formula to ensure no manlet
>inb4 pinning “vitamins” eod to ensure no schoolyard bullying
>inb4 keto shampoo with fake winnie pooh stickers to ensure no baldlet
>inb4 putting lead or cast iron into plushies to ensure lifting lifestyle early on
>inb4 mewing as a fun game to ensure majestic jawline

Like a mother forcing her daughter to become the ballerina she never was, except INCREDIBLY more awful and horrifying.
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>>39865108
I love how your shitposting essentially will just give him even more ideas, re: >>39865086
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>>39865086
>>homeschool only, propaganda free in rural community
please never actually do this

brainwashing a kid is easy as hell as his parent, you don't need to cut him from social activities and turn him into a homeschooled weirdo
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>>39865086
elaborate on the family matching bullshit

are you literally trying to breed like cattle
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>>39865145
>turn him into a homeschooled weirdo
he is one himself and that surely did not go wrong huehue
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Is moving to Eastern Europe to start a family the red pill? I was thinking I'd have a chance in Montana, not sure though baka

I just want a big family, a farm, and guns

BAKA DESU
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>>39865145

>homeschooled weirdo
hey I was homeschooled and look how I turned out see>>39865169


:^)

in all seriousness though, I don't mean to cut socialization entirely. Extracurriculars would be commonplace. Besides, I don't want to taint him by interacting with the niggers/spics/other abominations flooding public schools

private school may be an option, depends

>>39865151
kek no, she's coming to see me in the US by working as an Au Pair here for 2 years. So she matches with a family to essentially be a nanny for their kids, she likes kids a lot.

Took her a while to find one near me

>>39865156
only a handful of months now, going on about five.

>I don't think any college girls want babies

she's dropping out of college in the CR to come take care of her Au Pair families kids and live with me during the rest of the time, kek

plus she loves kids and 'wants a family before 25 at the latest'

22 now
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>>39865108
>>inb4 putting lead or cast iron into plushies to ensure lifting lifestyle early on
>“hey trennis, you only get dinner if you manage to pick up your 50lb teddy 5 times in a row!”

That is actually fantastic.
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>>39865203
How'd you even meet
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>>39865208
TRENNIS
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>>39865203
>>39865199
I misquoted, she said 28, not 25.

>>39865208
>>39865219

>trennis
fuck

>>39865199
force eastern europe to come to you, so you can enjoy freedomland still :^)

>>39865213
the magical world of auto-scripting mass messages to girls on OKC, kek
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>>39865229
So you've never met irl?
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>>39865199
Eastern Europe generally sucks big juicy donkey balls for a vast selection of reasons.

Lots of genetically interesting wifey material if you know where to look though so if your sole concern is offspring outcome, c’mere breh
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>>39865245
not yet, skype usually every night is about it

we got drunk last night on skype together

both lonely fucking weirdos
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>>39865248
Only problem is they'd just pump and dump me for $$$

>>39865257
Might have to try this

Are you model tier or something
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>>39865269
I'm literally a fat autistic bald manlet

if I can do it anyone can t b h
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>>39863398
Ive been cruising for 6 months
Vascular as fuck now while cutting
Took jacket off at Club last night
Chick i was talking to clinged to my arms all night
Make out, ass grab i was almost all in
Shows me to her friends and they go talk
Calls me a fuck boy and leaves with her friends
Jerk off in car

What the hell is a fuck boy, and what to say when girl accuses you of it
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>>39865276
Your hair grew back? Isn't CR well off, why does she want to mkve to USA
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>>39865269
Well there’s enough of them and nothing really costs more than a venti latte in the US.

Get a harem, cull the gold diggers early on.

>tfw captcha has a pic of a nearby mountain I recognize instantly
DEUS VULT
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>>39864054
Test usually takes 2-3 weeks to "kick in"
Dbol isn't worth it imo, too bloated and estrogenic sides
Id go with 50 to 100mg avavar
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>>39865302
Where do you live anon?
They prob look down on USA baby fever guys DESU
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>>39865300
>hair grew back

it kinda did, not really sure why. Didn't start doing anything for it yet.

>isn't CR well off
shit wages compared to here, not a lot of job opportunities for advanced fields. Granted everything is much cheaper to account for this, and the country is fairly nice itself

she says it's starting to get infested with niggers though, at least in the urban areas (her exact words were 'fucking gypsies') and she just wants to see what the US has to offer.

She says there's also a very large feeling of resent towards the new political systems ever since the fall of communism there, and that most people there want to return to communism
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>>39864054
Id say test A and tren A at some stupidly high dose is the only way youre going to make gains that quick, if you want to look bigger chuck dbol in for good measure. This WILL have shitty consequences, like spots and gyno and all sorts of fun.

Or, you do a normal dbol test cycle but cut it at 4 weeks and see no real visible progress.
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>>39865331
>looking down on baby fever guys
Get her pregnant, shotgun wedding literally three seconds after sperm hits egg. No worries, at least in rural areas.

As for my country, currently Romania. If Detroit were a whole country, run by gypsies, but still beautiful landscape wise. Am born Ukranian though but huge parts of it are pro russian as fuck so would not recommend for making america great again even with the whole hacking BS kek
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>>39865395
Interesting, do you see many Americans doing this?
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>tfw you haven't worked out in a week from all the holiday shit + gym being closed
HELP
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>>39865012
what would happen to the fetus if the mother was roiding?
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Ok back from gym.

How much AI you guys think I should take? Like I mentioned earlier
>>39864327
>>39864385
>>39864427
I haven't taken an AI in months and months and I'm only on 200mg test a week.

I'm susceptible to crashing estro so I don't wanna go hard.

Maybe front load 0.5 adex then 0.25 EoD afterwards?
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>>39865203
Don't let the fuckers tell you shit about not homeschooling, public education is literally just a grand brainwashing scheme for the proles. As a tip the best homeschool education is reading a lot of books for the humanities side, and then doing problems for the math side. For math I recommend teaching your child higher level math quite early on (analysis, logic and what not) because it's really not that hard and will greatly benefit their cognitive development and understanding of other concepts. godspeed, slav brother
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>>39865628
>lots of books for humanities
>higher level math as early as possible

both exactly what I planned on doing, with an emphasis on chemistry on the scientific side of things, not as much on physics but still a focus. Chemistry is easy to teach in a homeschool environment imo, lots of more fun stuff you can do and it really works to help it feel less like a work task and more like something to enjoy

>cmon trennis, we're going to blow some shit up with science today
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>>39865670
I think pretty much all subjects are easier to teach in a home school environment if you approach them correctly, school is fucking cancer meant to train the population into submission.

>tfw no gf to have children with that I can homeschool

Well at least I'm still young, hopefully this will be the year.
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>>39865628
school isn't about education
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>tfw new gf has a better jawline than me

Fuuuck
Wish I was fertile
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>>39865702
You're right, really.

Good luck on your hunt for a fertilefu this year

>tfw qtczgf wants to homeschool too

we've discussed it before and agree it would be best that she teach them and oversee them doing their duties around the house during the day (cleaning, chopping wood for stove, helping with outside tasks, taking care of farm animals, etc.) and then in the afternoon (or on days that I'm off, if firefighting pans out it's a pretty lax schedule) I teach them their school subjects

yknow, 2017 isn't off to a bad start

>>39865762
>all of this fertility talk

did the new year give everyone some sort of impregnation urge jesus
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>>39865815
I truly hope you never reproduce, for your hypothetical children's sake
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>>39865949
>that pic

/r/ing that pic jerry posted a few threads back, had me heartily kek

>I truly hope you never reproduce, for your hypothetical children's sake

It's nearly too late, anon, the time is nigh

I will breed her
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>>39865949
Seriously fuck off if you think school is in anyway a positive influence on a child's life
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>>39865969
Don't you want your kids to be (((socialized)))?
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>>39865949
I'll remain true to my lower class and blood and reproduce before abandoning the mother and dying from complications stemming from drug abuse.

Just like my father. And his father before him.
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>>39865730
This
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>>39865969
it is, and if you don't think so it just means you were a sperg who couldn't socialize because of how fucking weird you were (which isn't a stretch considering we're on 4chan and you're posting /pol/ images)

school until college is about hanging out with other kids, making friends, learning how society works. people who are homeschooled turned into literal crazy people like catpiss who is unironically a young earth creationist, and I wouldn't be surprised if he said he was also a flat earther. the alternative is sheltered kids who turn into absolute spergs because they've never been around other people in their lives

homeschooling should actually be illegal
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>>39865969
>Russians
>fighting fascism
Lol
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>>39863398

>we got rid of Alex

Nope just busy business is BOOMING

Anyways I know how glands feels now with his family except this is 10 times worse because I'm 14% bf LOL

(My mom)

>hurrr hurr you lost 45 lbs in 4 months
>that's too fast
>you're too skinny now
>you're anorexic
>you're bulemic
>you're all skin and bones
>you look like a concentration camp survivor
>do you honestly think you look good
>how come you workout so much and you have no muscles
>you're doing something wrong
>you should eat more

Not even kidding. Not making anything up.

How come I don't have a good physique after 4 months of perma cutting? Gee, I wonder why.

She actually thinks I'm lazy because I don't look like MasT after four fucking months of cutting?

And then the bullshit, she litterally, telling me to bulk 'eat more hur hur'

Oh great, so a sedentary woman is now a bodybuilding coach? Amazing. Great. Really happy I have my own coach guys!

>'you look sick'
>'your face looks hollow and your cheeks are sunken'

As opposed to having a disgusting fat fucking face? Thanks for telling me I'm ugly + dyel though mom! (It's like I'm on /fit/!)

>14% bf
>bulk

She really should consider coaching!

You can't imagine the EXTREME amount of willpower to not go full fucking r9k mode and start reeing and flinging shit on the wall.
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>tfw no rosey girly smelling pillow case to sniff and snuggle
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>>39865995
godspeed big kahuna

>>39866030
thanks for filling the pic request

god that fucking dog just makes it, can't help but literally kek every time

>unironically a young earth creationist
>wouldn't be surprised if he said he was also a flat earther

nah man flat earthers are retarded

about that hollow earth theory tho

>>39866103
ask jerry to borrow a daki
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>>39866030
>homeschooling should actually be illegal
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>>39866095
>when even your family tells you you have no muscle

and the worst part is you probably still think they're wrong/that you're "bigger" than the regulars at your gym who have been lifting for years

4 months of lifting and you already have body dysmorphia... but the wrong kind
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>>39866030
school is about sitting in a classroom for 7 hours a day while they force feed you bullshit information. SuperSlav never said he will completely isolate his kids, and that they will still partake in plenty of extracurriculars.

There are plenty of other beneficial things a child could be doing during the time he is in school, like learning the self reliance techniques superslav mentioned, reading books, being outside in nature, etc

I won't say school is completely pointless, because that is false, it does teach children in some degree, but in my experience, the methods are complete shit, the children are usually shit (especially if you lived in an area with many non white/asian minorities like I did), and the teachers are shit too.

And before you pull the "you were just a sperg who didnt socialize" card on me, I did have a good group of friends all the way throughout the schools ive been to, and I must say that yes school did help me meet them, but it is not the only way to meet kids your age. Other examples would be: sports, church, community service, going to the park, etc
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>>39866140
>>39866030
to weigh in with an actual opinion for once

The public school system IS a good tool for socialization, HOWEVER that socialization can't be positive without a thorough base of beliefs and values being instilled in the child(ren.)

At the very least, homeschool until middle school, perhaps even high school, then send them to a public school (where friends they've made through outside social activities already attend)

This allows for them to see the world and the subhuman faggots that inhabit it for the shithole it actually is, and realize that through their entire life they'll have to deal with complete and utter fucking morons who couldn't tie their shoes properly if a diagram wasn't positioned on the inside of the tongue for them.

Kinda a system of teach ---> bring the kid into a self-realization moment of 'holy shit my parents were right; people are fucking idiots and I'm glad I was taught useful shit in an environment conducive to those values and methods of teaching rather than in this diversified autism-fest.'
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>>39866122

>he can't separate my bait posts from blog posts

LOL

>even your family tells you you have no muscle

They're right but like what the fuck? Who says that to their son lmfao

Does she not think I'm TRYING? Shit.

I'm mad 10/10.

I live here because they ASKeD me too and said they MISSED me and this is what they do to me?

Sure I was lonely after the engagement got broken up and ex ex moved out so I was fine with it

But I thought we were gonna have a good relationship like we AlWAYS DID not then fucking badgering me

9/10 pissed

LIKE I DONT RESLIZE IM DYEL

TY mom
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>>39866140
my girlfriend is a high school teacher who has had to deal with a significant amount of homeschooled kids who had just (re)integrated the school system and let me say this with 100% honesty, no trolling, no irony: not a single kid in the history of homeschooling has ever turned out normal

there are multiple reasons: parents who homeschool their kids are usually not the brightest bunch (or are just fucking crazy), it's VERY hard to socialize even through extracurricular activities because everyone else even in those classes/activities/etc already has friends from school that they're with, they have no "base" for socializing that kids get in kindergarten/school so they can't even approach other people to make friends, etc

I really don't mind what people do in their lives but it sickens me when fuckups ruin their children's lives and turn them into future /r9k/ posters because of their own insanity
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>>39866248
look how the (((normal))) person turns out... a cuck! Many such cases, SAD!
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>>39866248
>my girlfriend is a high school teacher
look guys im roleplaying
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>>39866206
>start wearing multiple layers to hide any body definition
>go either full cocoon mode or rarely interact with family so they barely see you
>cycle hard for 3 months while bulking, then cut as hard as possible
>one day while your mom is berating you, rip off your clothes in a glorious fashion, strike a zyzz pose, and her own awe will silence her forever

Or just stop letting your moms criticisms of your body get to you so much when you know what you are doing, especially if judging by your post, she is fat herself
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Hey /fraud/, heart health question.
This is the second 750mg TrenE / 200mg TestE cycle that I've had dull chest pain exclusively where my heart is (left side). My blood pressure is actually fine, around 128/74, and I had 2 EKG's done that had slightly elevated activity but the cardiologist said its normal for an active athlete/weightlifter. Regardless, I still worry about the chest/heart pain. Anyone else experience this or have any commentary? Should I schedule an echocardiogram?
Thanks
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>>39866284
>cycle hard for 3 months while bulking, then cut as hard as possible
>cycling ever
>cycling for only 12 weeks
>cutting immediately after a cycle
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i want to roid.
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>>39866307
Try using less sterons.
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>>39866261
were you homeschooled too, stoya? it would explain a lot actually
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>>39866307
Heartburn is a common side effect of tren. Can't give you a causation, as I'm just not sure, but I know many people report it.

>>39866328
t b h this advice worked for me, kek

running that blast you recommended now, 250 test/200deca/300eq, really enjoying it and feel like I can keep the sides in check much better
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>>39866337
nope, i wish
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>>39866284

I live with my family.

I can't roid for lots of reasons that I posted before, one is that my testes are small and my dick is large, and it's already very disproportional (and is commented on frequently)

I also have a receding hairline and tons of cystic acne scars and still have acne problems (not severe, since I took /fraud/'s skin care advice, cut out dairy, clean my sheets weekly, don't touch my face, etc etc- tnks guys, sincerely)

Also, lifting for 4 months, so my joints would get BTFO (I know, I know, osteraine and MK677 to counter...)

I know PSO to counter hair, HCG to protect my nuts, and accutane for acne... I do lurk here guys.

Larger problem is I don't ever want to be the >roiding for that guy.

IMO that's bad, it just shows you're lazy if you roid after 4 months of lifting.

I know no one cares about my opinion, but I always try to be someone that I MYSELF can respect and if I roided after 4 months of lifting I wouldn't be able to respect myself. That make any sense?

IMO the only respect you need is YOUR OWN and I would NEVER do anything to lose that.

If I do it I will tell you guys but it will only happen someday when I have a good physique natty if it does happen.

Moreover I don't want to be roiding and have to take

>mk677
>osteraine
>HCG
>accutane
>Test E

Like that's so much fucking shit lamo.

Also, reason I'm so fucking bothered,

>always had great relatinship with family
>super nice to each other
>my family means everything to me
>they always been supportive of me
>I would legit DIE for either of my parents
>they would die for me

And then this shit? Like WTF. This isn't how we interact.
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>>39866344
It feels more like a knife in my heart, or that my heart is too large for my chest. Which I figured would have raised my blood pressure and shown up on EKG's, but who knows
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>>39866344
People really overdo their doses, especially with harsh stuff like tren. If you can't hit your goals on 350/400mg (good) tren a/e, the problem is on your end.

Good to hear that stack is working for you.
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>>39863982
> diff between legal and illegal
legal pro hormones will fuck your shit up. go for the proven illegal shit.
> how do i get them?
ever heard of the internet?
>side effects?
getting jacked as fuck, attracting loose women
>is it really worth it?
only if you want to be a fucking animal
> is creatine natty?
what do you think anon... i mean really
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aren't any of you worried about heart problems in your 40's and 50s?
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>>39866375
Wish I could offer more help or advice but I really can't. I suppose try some heartburn medication and see if it has an effect on it, probably the easiest thing you could do.

>>39866408
Yeah, I'm starting to realize that I need to be sprinkling in compounds other than test really rather sparingly

Test is the compound exercise of the steron world, all other compounds are accessory work, best thing I can liken it to.

Thinking about upping the test to 450 though (changing to pinning MWF, keeping other dosages the same) and then dropping from 24 weeks to 16 for the bulk of it, adding low dose of tren (maybe 350 of enth) for a time and cutting down into a cruise over the summer, thoughts on that?
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>>39866430
>40s and 50s
Kek
I've flatlined twice already, have 3 incurable STDs, and in the last year have contracted impetigo, cellulitis twice, and sepsis. I'll be lucky to see 30.

>>39866122
Man reverse dysmorphics are the WORST. I got a couple skinny twink high school kids at my gym always in cutoffs with absolutely ZERO mass but they're always mirin themselves in the mirrors. Actually makes me cringe.
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If I order Test E off the darknet, how do I know what I'm injecting is actually Test E?

Are there tests I can do on the product?
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>>39866248
>ever turned out normal
This. Maybe if it's just gradeschool it won't be so bad.
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>>39866473
Most of us will be lucky to see 30. The world is going to shit.
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>>39866473
>makes me cringe.
I don't know if I could resist the urge to feed their misconception.
>Hey buddy, looking big!
>Careful m8, your going to out grow that shirt
>Looking shredded bro
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>>39866478
You need to find a brand which you can at least find people using and rating.
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>>39866473

HOW CAN YOU NOT BE JEALOUS OF THIS

You guys all look great and think you look like shit

This is fucking bottom tier.

I at least have 0 dysmorphia I know how I look.

Top fucking tier is reverse dysmorphia. You think you look good when you look like shit. If/when you get a good physique I can only imagine how good you think you look.

Basically you think you look good for your entire time training/life. Why is this bad?

I suspect your arguement will be

>less motivation to work hard if you like the way you look

But I don't agree, really,logically, you should be like 'oh what I'm doing is working better keep it up'
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>>39866524

*all except brick

whoops I forgot we had a """powerlifter""" perma bulker here my bad
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>>39866030
what about homeschooled but the kids are active in the community, like sports ?
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>>39866030
Everything this guy says is true... I was homeschooled by, like he said, insane parents, now I can't look people in the eye and just feel completely inferior to everyone

Never had a friend and never will.

>now I roided to try and change it and still the same thing
>imagine some veiny guy on trenbolone walking around refusing to make eye contact or talk

Thanks for setting me up for a garbage life
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>>39866445
Sounds needlessly complicated. Why do you need to up the dose and add tren if you're doing fine?
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Thoughts on clen?
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>>39866473

Ahh, so this is like a slow but fun form of suicide I guess. Cool, enjoy it m8.
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>>39866814
I don't know if I buy into all this 100%

My mother was so overprotective of me as a child, woun't let me go on 'playdates' or anything, have friends, so I never socialized as a kid.

But I worked in sales (face to face) when I was in e-scrap, and shit, I sold/bought.

So I clearly was able to teach myself how to interact with people/make people like me when I had to.

>b-but we all hate you

If there was a reason for you to like me (I was trying to sell you something) , I would be likeable. And you would like me. Shit isn't hard.

No excuses desu senpai if you want to lean social skills you can.

Stop blaming your parents for your own failings.

I actually hate socializing with people and will only do it to get laid/ to sell stuff and perhaps, that introversion is because I wasn't allowed to have friends as a kid.

But I am willing to be that you are able to force yourself to do things you don't like (no?).

So why make excuses for why you can't or won't socialize with people/make friends.

If you wanted them bad enough, you'd have them.
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Is there a way to use tren and test but have no sex drive? I would blast letro but I heard crashed e2 kills gains

I don't want a normal sex drive or only slightly increased, I want none.
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REMINDER
=-=-=-=-=-=
Real men don't use -- or NEED -- steroids. Ever.

/thread
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>>39866107
Exactly

>Implying people should want to integrate into our highly degenerate wage slave society.
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Is there any big risks with deciding to do around 200-250mg of test for a year?

If so, what are they and what precautions should I take?
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>>39866408
I'm that guy from the other thread that accidently said 500-750 E3D lol

Was just re-reading, I meant 250mg E3D totaling 750mg for the week.

None of those NEETs are going to fucking follow through with their big plans of hopping on 100mg a week anyway.

I absolve myself of my fuckup.
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>>39867248
>250mg E3D totaling 750mg for the week
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>>39867321
Fuck it, I never had to explain it, idk why I added 750mg for the week.

250mg E3D there. :^)
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>tfw no handsome roided chad to screw my twink butt
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>>39866524
I know I look better than 95% of the gym, I just hold myself to a higher standard.

>>39866939
Well that's all from the heroin

Anyone heard from swimmerbrah at all? Wondering how he's doing
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>>39863398
I've been on cycle for a while now and want to come off. I'm just not as lean as I'd like to be and want to start cutting as well.
Is it better to wait until I'm done cutting to come off cycle? I don't want to end up having a rebound and gain even more fat when I come off.
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>>39867352
do mast's wristroller, that picture looks literally photoshopped due to how disproportionately small your forearms are
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>>39867352

>95%

Should come to a commercial gym you'd be the 3rd biggest guy there out of the 1000s of members

Any side by sides of the last time you got arrested/whatever and couldn't lift and lost all gains to now + timeframe?
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off topic

why are like at least 75% of male porn actors 20+% bf while also being roided up? (or at least it looks like it since their skin is red as fuck)
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>>39865969

Decent Russian Citizen
>fights fascism in neighbor countries

Anti-Russian liberal
>pro-Israel
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>>39867376
>>39867352
damn bro you look good, but at my gym would not stand out at all, awesome.
Maybe that's why I think I look like shit
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>>39867352
You are seriously hot dude.
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>>39867354
Yes cut before coming off baka. You'll want to eat at least at maintenence while you pct

>>39867362
Already working on it m8. They're not bad in person.

>>39867376
Nah only mugshots kek. I go through phones too quickly.

>>39867400
Definitely want to look into finding a real real hardcore gym.
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>tfw you look up a girl you dated in high school on facebook and she has kids and a husband
>meanwhile you're just fucking a different random tinder girl every week and nowhere close to settling down

wish I became attractive earlier so I got this shit out of the way in my early 20s like normal people
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>>39864150
How did no one respond to this image? Epic.
>>39864825
>>39864834
>>39864896
>>39864900
Lol I love seeing my meme pic posted.


Last night was fun. Killed several hundred dollars worth of liquor and food. I hope you all had fun as well!
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>>39866364
Bro this isn't your blog? Why are you tripping? Srsly...
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>>39867468
>Yes cut before coming off baka. You'll want to eat at least at maintenence while you pct

yea this is what I thought. I'm such a retard. I literally gained like 15 lbs of fat WHILE ON CYCLE. I blasted for a few weeks and have been on just 400 test/week for a while as maintenance but started drinking & fucked up the diet, so I sort of sabotaged the fat loss part of the cycle. Gainz still here though.
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>>39867504
>IPA
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Taking clen currently, I want to drop acid in a couple days. Any advice, or anyone with experience on this?
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>>39867555
>IPA
LMAO
Honestly I'm not an IPA guy. I prefer stouts when I drink beer. That IPA tastes like California in a bottle to me though so that's cool.
Been drinking a lot of bourbon lately though. Killed a whole bottle of Bookers last night which the liquor store guy claimed was no longer being made? But I googled it and I think he's full of shit.
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>>39867542

why are you tripping tho bro?
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Hi there. I'm thinking about roiding. Just wondering what the least to most effective and dangerous drugs are?

Do they all have a drawback? I might reconsider if my balls will shrink.
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>>39867626
BRO
YOU GUYS
Alcohol all the time on cycle, I do this.
How good or bad is this.
Sounds like you would know.
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>tfw no gf to fill and cuddle at midnight
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>>39867664
I see they brought the (you) back thank God.
>alcohol and steroids
I don't use orals and my liver values are always within range. Orals + drinking? Probably a bad idea.
>>39867693
I know this feel
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>>39867693
what do you look like? im female
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>>39867777

He's fucking HUGE it's hard to believe that he *only* used fucking test, dbol (what else stoya? tren?) to achieve such a gigantic huge physique

It's good to see fraudsters surpassing natty limit.
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>>39867784
ewww nvm
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>>39867352
If you're gonna use smack you should learn how to use a 0.2um filter and proper injection technique. Also look up low dose naltrexone and ultra low dose naltrexone. Makes withdrawals not as bad and cuts down on tolerance buildup and sides significantly.

I need some god damn suboxone but I don't want to go to the pharmacy everyday
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>>39867664
Dont do orals

>>39867693
Get a daki
>tfw new years kiss with your wife
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>>39867777
>>39867798
Shoo shoo
Where is mi amore ESTP?
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>>39867816
Sup dude?
Happy new year =)
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if post ends with a number between 1-9 i'll start my tren run early
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Locals keep asking me for high concentration test like 400mg. I never bothered brewing that shit because id never use it personally

But can I do high MG cypionate in straight EO? Or is the easier to solute enthanate a must for 400mg+? What's the highest test brew I can make you think?

Also does anyone use pharmacoms injectable dbol? I want to know how it is, I'm trying to figure out how they make a 100mg/ml solution . Does it have guiacocol in it ?
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>>39867245
No
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>>39867754
>>39867816
I did dbol for like 4 weeks and drank about 3-4 times a week lol,
anyway, stopped all orals since then
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>>39867245
A year straight

You're an idiot who won't bother to do any real research to make an informed decision other than asking on a Chadian vape discussion board before injecting UGL hormones into his body, so:

No, go ahead
There couldn't possibly be anything wrong with taking 3.5-5x natural daily levels of testosterone for a year straight

It's perfectly fine to inject chemicals of an unknown origin purchased off the internet and get all your advice from completely random strangers on a panamian grass whittling board.

Good luck anon
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>>39867245
You need to burn Buddhist incense every night to shoo shoo gains goblins away

PM me for a source on this incense

That's all you need to worry about, everything will be fine
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>>39867880
>3.5-5x natural daily levels of testosteron
absolute fucking retard
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>>39867867
4 weeks is nothing. You are fine. Just don't mix orals and alcohol often in the future.
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>>39867784
Great pic
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>>39867811
I get 120 subs a month all at once kek. I don't take them anymore and I'm off dope too.

>>39867836
Grats mate

>>39867556
Idk man stop being weird.
A. Use good narcotics not gay psychedelics
B. Use good peds not gay clen
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>>39866364
Nobody cares Alex, you worthless faggot
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>>39867908
thanks, plan was to start 2 weeks from now.
gonna try and draw/pin with a slin pin. haven't done that before, gonna see how it goes.
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Is Brandon on here? Brandon sent me WU for roids last year and I got arrested and never had a chance to send them. If you are reading this Brandon post up I'll send ur shit . I think your name was Brandon. you bought like $250 worth of test and a weight loss drug
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>>39866524

Maybe it was Alex

Alex if it's you post a pic cuz I looked up your Facebook and I'll remember your faggy girly face

If not ignore
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>>39867930
howd you get arrested?
>>
No it was Jordan B

Jordan if you're reading this I got your gear
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>>39868005

I was in a hurry behind some drunk guy and his friend in a 7/11 lineup who was taking forever to pay so I left my money and said keep the change while I showed her what I bought (a couple drinks and bag of chips) and started to walk out and the bitchy lady told me I couldn't do that

Then the guy made a snarky comment without looking at me So I said what's up and I smashed him over the head with a glass Perrier water bottle, then I used a whip out baton on his other friend

Cops got me on license plate from security camera

Turns out the guys were out of town drug dealers working in my town anyways so it was actually good for my rep cuz I was sellin in that area too but I'm a local

Cops and I laughed about it

The prosecutor played up how vicious I was but the guys both had rap sheets a mile long anyways, they're both gang affiliated and their gang has been responsible for a lot of shootings and deaths lately

I was in jail with a bunch of East Indians who had their members killed outside a casino by the affiliated guys a few years ago so they took Care of me

Had to dab another guy up in jail for them too but nobody caught me cuz it was away from the cameras

It worked out good for me cuz I managed to stop selling gear online which I hated dealing with shipping and shit because the East Indians buy everything i brew, they were paying like $80 a bottle for test before me , I only charge them $20 and they buy like 40-50 at a time
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whats good for an intermediate level cut?

1/2/3/4 liftang for 2yrs
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>>39868060
>>39868060
that was a great story but i feel like you maybe shouldn't be posting this all online lol
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>>39868060
Lmao you and me would get along great. 2017 is the year for no time in jail.
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>>39867934

It wasn't me I don't do drugs bruh

>faggy girly face

Rude
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>>39868089
It's already public knowledge

I did 8 months for it

They can't re arrest me for something they already charged and prosecuted me for

As for the gear dealing half the town knows what I'm doing and a bunch of cops buy off me

The people I associate with aren't doing dumb shit like shooting people in public so they tolerate us

The cops were actually really nice to me after they found out who the guys I attacked were because they are just really bad ppl, shooting moms in cars while kid is in the backseat, executing innocent witnesses etc

Most of them are dead or in jail now

The three leader who are brothers only one is alive and he's gonna be in jail for like 15 years for killing an innocent kid and repairman
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>>39868095
I just did the last of my smack and am gonna be sick as shit tomorrow

Not looking forward to it

Local dope is way too weak was spending $80 a day when $250 of dnm dope lasts two weeks

Gonna detox and get my tolerance down and hopefully let my stomach problems get better
Maybe order some pharma oxy and get away from using smack everyday
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>>39868136
could u help me get started? are there any pharma sites that deliver in the US that are safe?
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>>39868136
Fuck I don't miss that feeling. I could never save shit for the morning lmao. Woke up sick af almost every day.

>>39868179
Seriously don't.
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>>39868179
It's $0.36 a MG from [email protected]

Their stealth shipping is expensive, it's like $50 but it's really good

I just get their Mundi 120s and 40s , the 80s around where im at are faked way too much so ppl are wary if I try to resell them
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>>39868226
>Seriously don't.

why not? is it generally bad to order online?
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>>39868249
He's telling you To not mess with opiates
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>>39868249
could be in relation to source talk, which isn't allowed here. what do you mean by "pharma sites" like test/ ai / pct / other roid ?
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>>39868262
oh lol, i was looking for test

my stomach can't handle Tylenol let alone opiates
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>>39868229
Only in USA?
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>>39868268
oh sorry, didn't know it wasn't allowed
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>>39868270
[email protected]
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>>39868276
Try the Harry one for USA
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>>39868299
Test not opiates that is
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Any ausfags here?

Looking for some friends
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>>39868348
Do ppl visit the grave of zyzz?
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>>39868363
Yeah nah, only one a year
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>>39868363
>>39868376
is this some kinda code talk?
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>>39868382
Google images zyzz..he was a bb who died.
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Will 250mg of DNP for 2 weeks on 2 weeks off make me have yellow cum?
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First time nutting raw into a girl the other day lads

Now I have constant daydreams and obsessions about getting her pregnant/sending her to work with a fat load leaking out of her

I feel like high test would do this and it looks like I'm not alone

Help
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>>39868400
250mg is on the low end, my fluids only started becoming yellow on 500mg

but I was on 250mg for only like 5 days, so I dunno if it'd become yellow after a longer period
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>>39863474
My lesbian ex begged for it today.
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>>39868442
>begs to be impregnated
>by a white male
>somehow still a lesbian
? lmao
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Did gear changed your life in general or just more gains?
Not sure about >>39860434
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>>39868409
M8, I've been in a relationship where I always finish in her, by that I mean at least twice a day, everyday.

It's the best feeling, especially when she says that she can feel me inside her all day
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>>39868482
how many abortions did she wind up getting
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>>39868473
I found myself getting more aggressive on tren but no one else seemed to notice. Apart from that confidence etc was roughly the same, but i don't have an issue with that off cycle...

More gains == changing your life in general
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>>39867556
Whatever you do dont think of spiders on your face
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>>39868596
0 in the 2 yrs
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>>39867844
Dont do it pip would be horrible thers a reason its usually between 100 to 250
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>>39867844
You brew this shit by yourself?
how?
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is pharmacomstore legit?
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>>39867844
i heard my trainer talking about something stupid like 650 or something before i was like wtf you wouldnt even be able to bang it
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>>39868736
Google home brew steroids....
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Random pumpkin seed oil and saw palmetto oil supplements + shampoo with 1% nizoral update for anyone who happens to give a fuck!
I have experienced hair loss in the past from gear and I have successfully regrown hair with less than six months of minoxidil on my scalp plus 1mg finasteride per day.
Currently on two teaspoons of PSO and 450mg saw palmetto oil a day + nizoral shampoo twice a week and I legit think my hair is getting thicker!
It has been one month since I switched from 1mg finasteride per day to the "natty" hair routine and so far I like it.
Thank you masT for always keeping it real. You are truly an inspiration.
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>>39868949
Thanks for review, will buy it too asap.

It was
3x PSO
5x Saw
and once a week the shampoo, right?
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I have a question for you guys.

Can steroid users tell who's natty and who's not?

Like do you guys have a better sense after years of use of who is on gear? even at a low dose?

like can you sense that someone is on a low test cycle?
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>>39869070
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>Can steroid users tell who's natty and who's not?
yes, except if u are a retarded meathead, it is completely obvious after using yourself
>like can you sense that someone is on a low test cycle?
depends... low dose test by itself doesn't really produce noticeable effects. if someones taking anything worth while (dose or compound-wise) it's obvious as fuck though

and no we cannot tell you if (random guy) is natty based on a blurry and filtered facebook photo at a retarded angle
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>>39868983
>It was
>3x PSO
>5x Saw
>and once a week the shampoo, right?
I don't recall masT's original program but I was on pic related at six soft gels per day and the PSO was way way too low.
If you compare the pics I was getting 4.5g of PSO with the pills and now with the raw oil straight down my gullet I get at least double at 8-10g of PSO per day.
I like it so far.
>>39869070
Who cares.
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Did gear changed you facial structure?
Im 21 now and still look like ~16 years old, can i change something when i use gear or is it too late?
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>>39869129
it's never too late to become an hero
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>>39865419
No. For us you are all 400lbs burger munchers who shoot sand niggers for sport (and oil), most wouldn’t even notice your nationality if you are none of that. Just behave and speak with a mild but not HOWDY YEEHAW kind of accent.
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>>39865547
Depending on dosage either nothing, moderate to severe birth defects up to hermaphroditism or other fun stuff on the intersex spectrum and/or fucky internal organs, stillbirth, or outright mid-to-late stage autoabortion.

Or a yuuuuge bearded baby fit for a Marvel villain origin story, it’s not like you would find any coherent studies on the matter lmao
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Long time lurker here.

Always enjoyed reading the posts in here and you guys seem to have a good amount of knowlegde.

I have been blasting 500mg Teste, 200mg deca and 200mg mast for 10 weeks and swapped to 250mg teste, 400mg trene and 200mg mast mid cycle.
I'm currently entering week 19 and the gains have been going better then ever.

It even fixed my low blood pressure, its a tiny bit above average but healthy according to my doctor. Bloods are also fine.
Sides are not even present aside from some minor back acne but that always happens in the winter period for me regardless of gear.

Should I keep blasting or call quits? Original plan was 12 weeks and I'm at 19.

How far can I push this is basically what I am asking if my overal signs are healthy.
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>>39869129
For me the back of my jawline exploded and went from looking like 17 years to old to 22-24 (my actual age)

Chewing hard gum till my jaws got sore really helped during cycle. Went from babyface to manly face in the span of 8-10 weeks.
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About to start my first cycle, and I need a little advice. I want to run 500 mgs of Test E a week, but I also want to stack with Dbol. I was wondering how much Dbol should I take, and how frequently? Also, should I get some Estrogen blockers just in case. I have gyno now, but I don't see how it could get worse. I don't want Bob sized bitch tits though.
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>>39866876
Transitioning into a strong start to a cut for the final 8 weeks then finishing the cut over the course of the cruise, not continuing to bulk with the addition of the tren.
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>>39866095
I TOLD YOU GUYS NOT TO SUMMON HIM BY SAYING HIS NAME HE IS DYEL BEETLEJUICE

FECKIN HELL
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>>39866095
>how come you workout so much and you have no muscles
where is the lie tho
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What kind of stack are strongman on bros?
I wanna become the zydrunas
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How much gains can I expect to keep after my first cycle?
And what do I need to do to keep as much gains as I can?
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>>39869629
1. Run a consistent sensible routine.
2. Diet to perfection.
2.5 take yo supps
3. Sleep 9 hours a day.
4. Fuck your gf daily.
5. Do proper HCG.

First cycle 500mg test e 12 weeks you should see like at least 50% muscle mass retention if not a lot more depending how close you followed that shit. If you did it well at least 75+80% first cycle.
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>>39869679
>>2. Diet to perfection.
cuz anyone actually does this no matter what they say or who they are

funny cuz only autistic natties are actually 100% with their diet. there is no way any jacked motherfucker on gear doesnt go out once in a while or binge after contests
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>>39869717
It's all about your wright class. As a huge powerlifting dude you need certain levels of protein and calorie to gain and increase strength. Those guys don't have a complete diets but they still have a planned diet they follow strictly (at last the serious ones)
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You guys have a nice new year?

I worked the club as per usual, good vibe, no conflicts, but it was pretty depressing after.

I've met a lot of girls since starting this job and connected with a few, but when it came down to it I was alone on new years, riding an empty night bus while the city was alive with love and lust.

Really makes you think.
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>>39869679
Thanks breh, very much appreciated
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>>39869731
hitting macros =/= eating just brown rice chicken and vegetables all day though
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>>39869734
maybe if you were 8% bf instead of 28% bf you would be in a different situation
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>>39869734
Spent all day fucking my roommate and napping
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>>39869738
Of course. Hitting all macros and most nutrition is important, he's gonna have trouble counting calories well anyways, good to be harsh.on the youngsters
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>>39869382
>Make a thread yesterday about the same thing
>People bitch that I don't post in the General
>Post in the General
>No one responds

Kill yourselves you worthless fucks. Good thing I just wanted some extra input. Goodbye shitty board, filled with faggot memers. Enjoy your second-rate memes about Monster sipping, and "haha, no homo".
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>>39869755
you have tits already. Go ham you've already fucked your masculinity I guess.
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>>39866473
Cool which STDs breh?
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>>39869755
kill yourself faggot ass fucking bitch
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>>39869741
Fuck off anon you've spent too much time on here if you really believe I'm 28% or that I'm not already better than the majority of normie faggots (body wise).

I'm just shit at life.

>>39869744
That's some nice living conditions.
Been living my own for over 5 years now, sort of miss roommates sometimes.

Hey I fucked a girl in the ass for the first time early last week. Wasn't bad.
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>>39869820
you are complaining you are alone while the city is "filled with lust"

99999/100000 women would have a heavy preference even for a skinny fag over some obese manlet
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>>39869829
Well I worked from 10pm to 3am, club hours, hours during which you usually target your interest and seal the deal.

Otherwise I could have scoured the streets looking for strays or been that sad cuck messaging girls at 4am hoping they're so pitiable that they don't mind being my last resort.

No I just bummed a few hits off some kids joint and rode the bus home wishing I'd planned things out better.

Obese... Fuck you guys really are a misery meme, really try your best to dig at someone enough that they quit.

Betting my natty peak is better than wtv you achieved.

Pic related, natty me taking a shit
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>>39869877
>posting old pics to "prove his point" because he's too fat to take a pic now

you just said that even your fat ass football player dad (i think) just said to cool it because you're getting too fat
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What is the best PED I can get in America that is not illegal?
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>>39869893
caffeine

kill yourself
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>>39869521
Depends and can’t be generalized. Some just stack 8-10k calories ed with a massive training routine eod (kek), I myself for example cruise indefinitely and do a mast/eq/higher test blast (varying dosage of each depending on goals and health) twice a year to prepare for contests, but I’ve also met guys in this sport who were yoloing mtren and grams of test like it was fucking candy.
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>>39869892
Well he meant I was getting to bodybuilder bulky, not fat, trust me when I tell you my dad would call me chubby cheeks and otherwise berate me when overweight.

And yes I post old pics to prove that I can achieve a lean physique. I did it naturally. I went to bed crazy with hunger at times. I weighed everything from cloves of garlic to counting calories for a single fish oil pill.
And yeah right now I'm not at my best, but it's part of a process, I'm coccooning and I don't see why that is so hard to comprehend.
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>>39869938
because you are claiming to be cocooning (aka justifying being a fat pig to yourself so you can sleep at night) then complaining about being alone

and becoming obese is not part of any process
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>>39869920
>yoloing mtren

500MG IN EACH PEC CMON
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I'm thinking of starting my first AAS cycle with just the standard 250mg E3D of Test E, was wondering if there was any cookie cutter PCT protocols I can do that generally work for most people?

Or if you guys can point me in the direction of a good source of info for pct?
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>>39869963
Well not that hardcore but the general idea is not far off tbqh, I’ve seen some disgraceful shit over the years lmao
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>>39869960
Me being alone is completely relative to the fact that I'm not doing anything with my life and how I generally feel about myself.

Women are clearly attracted to me, I constantly get hit on, I pull at least three numbers a week and I fuck most weeks, I've averaged about three girls a month since September, which isn't Chad Thundercock but not bad, especially since they are usually at least 10 years younger than me... But I'm not happy.
I'm discovering I hate hooking up and meaningless sex.

And seriously you cunt post pics of your shredded physique that I am obese by any standard.
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>>39870002
>getting this flustered by a 5/10 troll
nigga a huge part of cocooning is not giving a fuck, relax and do what you want
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>>39870002
ok so since you are willingly embracing your bigmacs and chocolate cakes, stop complaining about being alone
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>>39870023
Doing a twelve hour overnight at a bank midnight to noon, making me cranky.

>>39870041
Fuck sake being fat has nothing to do with being alone you obtuse cunt, not unless you're a sloppy ham planet.

Sounds like you lift for girls.
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>>39870125

They don't get it dude.

They think they're alone because they haven't hit piano man status yet.

They don't realize they are alone because of their toxic personalities (same ones that make them attack you for no reason) and crippling insecurities (talk shit online to feel better about themselves)

Half the reason I shit up this thread so hard is their level of delusion and stupidity just amazes me.

It always just strikes and a kind of awe and wonder and 'really?' to think about some guy injecting himself with shit in the hopes he will lose his virginity because of this. Not even using gear because he wants to be a bodybuilder, because he wants to get bigger, nothing, just because he thinks it will get him women.

Obviously this isn't all people on gear, but yeah, it's 100% of anon posters flaming for no reason.
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>>39869679
with help of nolva clomid hcg + staying on minimal surplus (100-200kcal) the chances of you losing any muscle at all is close to none unless youre above natty max

people just lose their increased water retention/glycogen storage etc.

I bnc and dropping to cruise I get smaller, my friends have done cycles and even while they are not even serious about gym they only lost water pretty much after 12wk test 600mg and only clomid as pct while no period of low test

just think what runnin hcg during cycle with clomid nolva pct will do. only problem with clomid thu is temporary vision problems
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>>39870168
Hey you're that guy people seem to hate, you're alright by me.

Figure most of the vitriol comes from people that don't even lift. Or lift but don't do gear so therefore hate and ridicule me for not being anything special.
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>>39870125
>all I care about is mcdonalds I mean getting bigger, gained 35lbs in less than 3 months, :)))))
>full cocoon man, I dont care what anyone thinks!!!!
>wow why don't girls want to be with me I only just barely qualify as morbidly obese
>i-i bet you lift for girls with your abs t-twink fag!!! yeah i will use this as an insult while simultaneously complaining about being forever alone outside of girls who want the novelty of a one night stand with a bouncer!!!

The only ones who use "lifting for girls" as an insult is ugly unlikable fucks that can't get girls no matter what so they have to make themselves feel better by saying shit like that.

"Wow he lifts to look his best and pull prime pussy... Well I lift as an excuse to eat mcdonalds and be a fucking disgusting american pig, so THERE"
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>>39870225
How much do you lose on cruise?
And how about your two cents on when it be best for me to cut, during my blast or during my cruise... I've seen various opinions on forums and struggling.

I was going to taper down my gear while slowly reducing my calories to maintenance, keeping at that for a few weeks and start cutting while I hit cruise levels.
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>hate the idea of roids
>hate roiders
>have degree in exercise science, know all about getting /fit/
>recently did a little research into roids
>the amount of gains you can get off one cycle is phenomenal and could easily change the entire trajectory of your fitness life permanently
>there are probably next to no side effects if it's only one cycle, right?...

man with tight lipped facial expression.jpg
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>>39870262
>slowly reducing my calories to maintenance
well with that they're at now won't that take years, decades even? might even die of low blood sugar if you suddenly reduce your intake by 95%, even taking it slow over a few hundred years
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>>39870229
I don't eat Mcdonalds nor do I live in the US.

I'll concede that perhaps I've gone into a dreamers bulk being as for a month I was stuck at 209lbs while eating 3600 daily.

So I went to 4000 and started gaining.

I rather risk some fat than to use gear and not put on muscle.

And I've been fatter than I am now, with less muscle, and cut down within three months to below 10% bodyfat.

When I cut this time I'll have more muscle mass and maybe I'll try clen being as EC worked so well I'm curious how much better it is.

So by May I'll be shredded and thick.

And you've still not posted a pic of yourself showing you're better than me, and hey if you're natty no fear, that's all I posted this thread.
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>>39870299
Kek I wish I could chat with you guys in person, I bet you're not half as vile face to face.

Well my maintenance was 3600, but it'll be higher by the time I cut, especially since my output will be higher.
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What would happen if someone were to take only mk-677 for a couple of months? Are the sides bad? I'm a manlet and a dicklet so this is my only hope at a normal life, probably.
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>>39870339
you are so fucking retarded
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>>39870263

disclaimer: I'm natty and don't know what I'm talking about

From what these guys say, there are next to know negative health effects of a single test E cycle. Or even cruise dose for a long ass time.

Also, it permanently increases the number of myopli (sp?) making it easier to gain muscle off cycle, increasing your natty limit, etc.

That said, look around. Most guys that plan to run one cycle end up B+C. Presumably, it's a very good feeling gaining muscle so quickly, and they're unwilling to stop using once they have experienced such rapid progress that comes with hard work + roids.

Also, it seems like 95% of 4channers are low test (I blame depression and feelings of inferiority, if depression lowers test, if they just learned to be happier....) and if you're low test, there are nootropic effects of you know, not being low test that they like.

Ask around, but from what people say, you're not gonna wanna just 'do one cycle' once you've done one cycle.
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>>39870168
>alex actually making a sound point for once

2017 is already being weird 2 days in.
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>>39869877
You look good my dude ignore these nerds. How tall are you? I'm a little over 6' 3 and need at least 4k cal to gain.
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>>39870357
Man I'm fucking desperate. I gave up a while ago but someone here claimed that hgh secretagogoues made them gain 1-2 inches in height and made their penors bigger. Am I a retard for hoping to live a normal life?
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>>39870392
Prettu sure he is like 5'7 and by his own words gaining over 3lbs a week
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Jo guys, what should i tell my doctor to check for in my bloodtest?

I would tell him to check for testosteron and estrogen, what else is important to keep an eye on before/mid/post cycle, and why?
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>>39870392
I should but it passes the time.
Can't watch Netflix because I'm specifically here because some tear has been going on the roof and drilling down and siphoning money from the atm somehow so I need my ears.

I'm 5'9.
Pic is me exactly one month into cycle at a bit over 200lbs. In retrospect I'd have been maybe better maintaining and hardening at this point instead of gaining and extra twenty pounds but what's done is done and when I cut down to 200 I'll look better than this pic, much drier and tighter.
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>>39870400
Would gaining an inch of height allow you to live a normal life instead of your current shit one?
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>>39870614
Gaining one inch would put me at the exact average for height in my country, which would be a pretty big stepping stone for me.
>>
Ausbrahs,

X Labs or anabolic labs? Mixed reviews and shills everywhere.
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>>39870623
One inch is a big deal in that context of it making you average (I know that feel since I am average height) but not enough that you can use it as an excuse for your shitty life
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>>39870623
so you're 5'7-5'8, big shit

odds are hgh isn't going to put an entire inch on unless you're prepubescent, so you'd yield better results learning some chinese and then GETTING THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>39870667
My life isn't that shitty, honestly my height and my dick are the only things that bother me, and they bother me intensely. Getting these problems solved would improve my life immensely, I'm sure you can understand. An inch in height and half an inch below would put me in the national average for both, and I can work with that from there.
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>>39870681
and mk-677 or hgh for that matter will give you none of these gains.
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>>39870676
>>39870690
I'm 5'4'' at 22. The national average is 5'5''-5'6''. I guess I will die the same way I was born, a manlet.
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>>39870695
well you'll either finally muster up the strength to kill yourself, or you'll eventually get over it. improve yourself in other ways my friend

5'4 220lbs 10% bodyfat when?? just accept the fact you're short, but you can always be bigger and stronger than most men

wear lifts and you'll be 5'6, more than enough to attract foreign pussy
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>>39870607

BUMP
>>
Started my first cycle of 500mg of test e /w today, I was wondering since I'm running 531, would it be smart to inflate my training maxes?
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>>39870607
everything thats on here.

https://imgur.com/a/iwRSW#XiiV1UB
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>>39870695
lol 5'4 just fucking kill yourself and get it over with, what the fuck? i thought you meant 5'9 by average
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>>39870757
Not inflate per se, you will not turn into the incredible hulk overnight nigger. Adjust them a bit when you feel you can do more and go from there, 5/3/1 is breddy nais for on the fly recalculations anyway.

>mfw I saw people unironically try to DL 1.5 times their 1RM after first week on gear
>mfw I have no face
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>>39870757
500 test is not gonna make you mr olympia

it is going to moderately increase the rate at which you get strength, while also increasing actual muscle tissue on your frame. but slowly over time, not instantly
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>>39870819
>>unironically try to DL 1.5 times their 1RM after first week on gear
>audible snap city moment in the distance
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>>39870763

Are you serious or trolling?

That looks like a 200€ test right there.
Just for reference, testosteron and estrogen alone cost arround 40€ in a german lab.

How do i know what good values are? Can i just look at the "average" values the lab mentions for normies?
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I've have the sniffles and a really runny nose/congestion immediately after stopping my first cycle (was on much longer than I should've been)

Are the two possibly related? I feel like I have a cold but I'm not experiencing any other symptoms and generally just feeling like shit. Googling just gives me a bunch of steroid nasal spray results.
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>>39870857
the cost is high because 80% of the money you are paying goes towards bringing in more niggers to your shitty country

in USA that entire test is around ~$56, done privately whenever you want off the internet
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>>39870819
I was only planning on doing minor inflations, like 5-10kg on squat and deadlift, and around 5kg on bench and ohp tbqh, then just increasing the monthly training max increases from 2.5kg on upper and 5kg on lower to 5kg/10kg increases
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>>39870867
coincidence probably.

test e gives a slight bump in white blood cell count. but really its minor.
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>>39870871

>talking about niggers while being an ameriburger
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>>39870857
>german lab

google Dr. J. Mengele for a cost effective solution to most of your concerns
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>>39870916
Ah I see, by “inflate” I thought of yuuuge increments, 500 test is no cpt. america serum. 5/10kg each should work, don’t hurt yourself.
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So I have fallen for the anti baldlet shill and want to keep my luscious locks while juicing. The thing is

>any year
>fucking with dht suppressing shit while on huge amounts of gear
>georgecostanza.gif

but a while ago one of the trips posted a study that said 3% peppermint oil is as good or only laughably less so as minox and finasteride, so if the one I mean is lurking, I have questions:

>how often a week?
>needs to be food grade? non food safe is way cheaper and it is used topical anyway not swallowed
>where to acquire 3%? I find only 2% or 3% but cut with other shit for women’s beauty stuff
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>>39871029
subtle
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>tfw just bought pic related and turning it into a stringer
>going to tuck it into newly purchased mens tights on diddly PR days
>OOH YEEAAHH right before tacking the slack out of the bar and torquing my back to shit

should buy some sunglasses too t b h

hope I confuse the resolutioners that remain by the time this arrives
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>>39871211

My gym was fucking deserted yesterday. Nobody. Not even the regulars (roidaroo fancy sneaker guy, gay roider, that milf that is there every day) were there.

Everyone passed out/hungover I assume? Is today the day shit is crowded? I'm about to go and see what's up.

I recommend you guys go at like 12 pm because 1-2 is 'off peak' and the gym is usually pretty empty, at least my gym (if it possible, obviously SOME of you MUST have day jobs)
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The reddit wiki says for a 20 week cycle pct to take
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
Toremifine 90/60/60/30

The source I want to buy from doesn't have Toremifine, is there anything I can replace it with?
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>>39871297
it's not a day thing, your gym will be fucked for about a month, maybe a month and a half
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>>39871297
mine doesn't actually get busy at all

strongman gym so most of the normies go to the big chain gym a few blocks away

plus mine's 24/7 and I try to go around 4-5am anyway
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>>39871361
I used to lift in the uni gym but my alumni price cut expired a couple months ago, now I'm at some 10 dollars a month chain gym. first time in a real commercial gym, I'm not excited for the next couple of weeks.

it's on my way back when I get home from work so I usually swing by around 4, I'm thinking it's going to be an awful idea for a month
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Okay this will sound retarded, but which creatine i should buy?
I thought i would just order some creatine but then i went to the page and holy shit, there are million different kinds. Which kind is the safest one with least side effects?
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>>39871410
creatine monohydrate from a serious supp company, or just the cheapest if thats your thing
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>>39871428
>creatine monohydrate
But i read the monohydrate is the worst kind because it causes the gut to draw lots of water and make it bloated
>>
i swear to god fraud is newfag general now.

because every thread that isn't qtddt trolls so much these faggots think creatine isnt natty,
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>>39871442
the fuck do you think creatine does?
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>>39871107
shameful bump
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>>39871442
thats a myth
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>>39871410
Yes it does sound retarded and which creatine you use literally does not matter. Get a nice crea mono, take 5g a day for life, hooray. Water retention is mostly a meme (some truth to it but negligible), so is sped up hair loss except if you have early onset pattern balding in your genes and even then it will fuck you without creatine, and it not being natty is a damn meme for sure.

Yes I slightly mad.
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is yolo in prison?
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>>39871628
>Water retention is mostly a meme
lol
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>>39871628
>so is sped up hair loss except if you have early onset pattern balding
god fucking damn it.
but then again, in 10 years or so i will be mostly bald anyway, judging by looking at my dad and his dad
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>>39871672
hair pattern/baldness comes from the mothers side iirc, look at your grandpa on her side of the family to see what you can look forward to

>tfw dad, grandpa on dads side, moms dad, and all uncles are bald

>>39871632
christ, I miss 'old' fraud

I just wanna see more pics of dopey's texas mass
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>>39871699
he was shred. He stopped by not too long ago
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>>39871944
mad that I missed him

>unrelated

>tfw old friend invited me last week to watch him play in the cotton bowl today but I'm a slave to work and couldn't leave on such short notice

life is suffering
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What's up with SARMS? Everything I'm reading says they're steroids with zero side effects. Seems like a pretty bold claim considering how new they are. Have you guys messed around with them? I know the side effects of AAS and can address them specifically, what about SARMS? Literally nothing?
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>>39872024
SARMS still have sides, enough that some could potentially warrant a full blown PCT protocol

they're also shit compared to steroids

and steroids are shit compared to (((STEROIDS))) in the media
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>>39871639
It does happen but most people VASTLY overplay the effect.

>hair pattern/baldness comes from the mothers side iirc
You indeed recall correctly. Save for negligible exceptions most of that stuff is coming from x chromosome.
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