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Trappy have you addressed the Livia thing yet?

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>>39819383

Actually, from what I've seen, the 6 days group did twice the amount of warmup sets than the 3 days group.
What the guy explained is that the programs were exactly the same. So I wouldn't expect the 3d group to warmup twice or the 6d group to not warmup on the second day.

I saw in the youtube comments that the study was planned to release this year. I wonder if I can find it anywhere...

>>39819434
Yes Trappy pls show more pics of your benis

>>39819438

Although, now that I think of it, the 3d group could have done squat bench deadlift squat bench deadlift - so on the second round they would warmup again.

Hm...

>>39819397
Does anyone have expierence with "Brazilian Powerbuilding" ?
Google that shit if you don't know about it. Makes Sheiko look like a clown fiesta program.

>>39819438
http://strengtheory.com/high-frequency-training-for-a-bigger-total-research-on-highly-trained-norwegian-powerlifters/

How do you possibly misinterpret the data so badly.

Frequency is a good tool. It doesn't need your speculation or approval.

>>39819438

>>39819369

Pls coach Trappy help me, apparently I'm incapable of thinking on my own

Does anyone else just try to stay as full of food as possible at all times of the day ?

>>39819447
Trappy, do you do powerlifting yourself?
Just wondering because you seem way more interested in the sport than anyone I've ever seen who doesn't participate in it, but I've also never seen you talk about your own lifts.

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>>39819453

Thanks for link, but that isn't very useful at this point in the discussion. We're not debating the basics.

>>39819454

You can sub the chain/board work for regular sets. I remember the board stuff you just reduced by 5% and it was fine. Not sure about the chains.

The small load is only marginally less volume, as it's intended for heavier lifters who lift heavier weights. But you're still doing plenty of work, it's still Sheiko.

Or you can just customise the advanced large load, as in, removing accessories, or taking one set out of the workset, stuff like that. Until you get used to it, then you can just do it all.

Any of the three choices should work well, really.

I'm about to start drinking again. Extremities are sweating, pulse is high, and sitting is still exhausting. Will take it easy tho, I guess.

>>39819438
I reckon warmups are of such low training effect (on what they measured) that they are deemed irrelevant.

>>39819502
I want to drink rn
But drinking makes me fucking depressed

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Trappy makes me happy!

>>39819516
have you tried weed instead?

>>39819496
sauce.

also reddit pill me on VBT

>>39819544
maybe one day

>>39819496
kys yourself

Am I supposed to get hard before sending a girl a dick pic?

Asking for a friend.

>>39819496
Saving your response to think it through on my own. Medium Load seems sensible in this case.

Probably will give you an update after first day/week of the new year, planning to start whichever program on the 3rd.

Thank you for all your help and all your time!

>>39819628
"Girl"

>>39819628
>girl
(male) ?

Anyone have the version of OP's image with oats spilled all over the table?

>>39819516
Don't drink, then.

how do i stop hyperextonding my back on squat and front squat

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>>39819628

Yes please

>>39819548

I actually don't know the sauce.

VBT is just another coaching tool. It's really not very useful for an athlete, and it's too cumbersome and slow to use if you train alone.

I've used VBT for a while but I didn't like it very much. Sometimes a lifter has a very slow squat attempt, but then his next attempt goes fast - the difference being that on the first attempt his torso went too far forward and the bar left his centre of gravity.

So velocity is just a variable that... varies too much, in my opinion. I felt like I was better off looking at the lifts myself and seeing what happened, instead of using an automatic system that's not very precise.

There's stuff here if you wanna read:
http://www.ncaa.org/health-and-safety/sport-science-institute/velocity-based-training

>>39819483

I train WL and am a PL coach.

>>39819708

It's not a problem, don't worry about it. Just be careful when doing OHP.

>>39819708
Flex your abs and glutes.

>>39819685
>>>/adv/
Don't burden us with your whining.

>>39819719
What Chat are you in? Can I join?

>>39819719
i have a sensor enroute that will be measuring my velocity. i think it's going to be a great way to autoregulate and cease no longer productive exercises.

thoughts on running sheiko while slightly injured
ive tried resting couple weeks over christmas and nothing really changed from when i was just fucking around doing light work to work around it but i really need to get back to training

the lighter weights seem like a good idea, but would the volume make it a bad idea?

>>39819832
I ran sheiko with a fucked up back, then on week 9 I fucked it up so bad. Right before I set a new PR.

Unrelated, just wanted to tell that story.

>>39819832
What is injured?

>>39819719
>I train WL and am a PL coach.
Ah, ok.

Did you also lift before starting hrt?
If so, then what's it like lifting with versus without anti-androgens?
Is it just slower/more difficult to make progress now?

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>>39819832

Depends on the injury.

>>39819765

It's a chat just for close friends, and they don't allow anyone to invite new people.

I used to be in the public plg chat, but left.

>>39819867

I only started training after transitioning.
I can't say how it was before, but it's been very very slow.
Girls who were around my bodyweight could outlift me in no time. Though I was surprisingly good at snatching, so somehow I managed to stay competitive on that one. But as time goes on they just leave me eating dust.

But I don't mind, I lift for fun. My actual passion is coaching. I guess it's what Rip said, the worst athletes often make the best coaches. kek

>>39819850
not really what i wanted to hear lad
how fucked did you get?

>>39819857
everything
mainly a bit of glute pain that is usually felt standing on left bent leg and of course heavy squatting will flare it up a bit
also get back pain bending over every morning that goes by the afternoon most of the time, happens if im training or not, makes me kinda nervous of what that actually is but it goes away so cant be that bad right?

>>39819949
what about those ones?
dodgy elbows and that too but i can deal with them

>>39819949
"left"

>>39819949
Im brbr too, how can i have you become my coach?

>>39819949
Can I gain strength while cutting on TM? I'm 20-22% bodyfat atm and don't know if I'm wasting my time doing it while cutting (starting to cut tomorrow)

>>39819832
>running sheiko while slightly injured
>ive tried resting couple weeks over christmas and nothing really changed from when i was just fucking around doing light work
No.

>>39820001
>Can I gain strength while cutting on TM? I'm 20-22% bodyfat atm
Maybe. Probably not.

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>>39820001

Probably but it's gonna be too exhausting and you're gonna fail the intensity days frequently. A lot of struggle for not much gain.

I'd recommend something else.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cfn4wy-9lc3mO5ObkoBU_Bf2GUtkr42gCyZS_hzeD4I/edit?usp=sharing

Run the prep block and the first week of the comp, then repeat.

Another option is 5/3/1. I don't have any links with me but it's easy to find with google.

>>39819988

RIght click the icon on the left, select "leave server".
I think that constitutes "leaving".

>>39819998

Just ask here and I'll do my best to help.
I'm not available IRL.

>>39820082
Thank you

>>39820030
>No.
what would you do though, there is every chance i could get hurt more but currently im not crippled just in slight pain

>>39820102
>what would you do though
I would do high-repetition, low weight variations and active recovery (foam rolling, contrast showers, LISS, etc.) until I felt healthy enough to fully invest back into Powerlifting-specific training.

>>39819949
>Girls who were around my bodyweight could outlift me in no time.
That makes sense, because trans women on hrt supposedly have lower T levels than cis women.

I was curious because I'm trans too. I got into lifting back when I was trying to repress and make myself be manly, but I haven't been to a gym in years now. Lately I've been thinking that maybe I should get back into lifting, although I'm not sure what to expect now that I have basically no T.

>>39820168
ehh maybe i should give it a bit more time
just feels like fucking around Tbh

also where the fuck are the (you)s

>>39820199
its ok Janae Marie
im sure no one even notices the muscle now

Can you run sheiko ironically and still make unironic gains?

Asking for a friend

>>39820243
what does that look like ?

>>39820243
No, your body will detect the self-defeating irony and you'll go nowhere.

t. man who spins his wheels ironically lifting

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>>39820243

Yes, I've seen it happen. Just make sure you're running Sheiko ironically correctly, and not ironically wrongly.

>>39820199

Well, progression in both strength and muscle development is pretty slow. But it exists, and it's still fun.

In my training I would skip everything upperbody except snatches and jerks. Of course that led to me being very weak in specific things, but oh well gotta play with the cards I've been dealt.
But I'm sure that even if I did train upper, I'd barely see muscle growth. Test makes a huge difference.

I got into weightlifting basically because it's more lowerbody dominant and squat dependant, while PL is pretty much fullbody dependant and needs upperbody training.

But even if you just wanna go to the gym to do squats and butt exercises, it's worth it. Way better than not doing anything, at least.

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>>39819397
What you think about Brendan Tietz and his beginner program?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cu8hkce0mmm2hfz/Legacy%20Training%20Systems%20Beginner%20Program.xlsx?dl=0

I think my hormones are all fucked up. I don't really know.
I am just super emotional, tired and libido is low.

Been doing a lot of maxing. A shit ton.

What should I do?

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>>39820344

>>39820330
>Just make sure you're running Sheiko ironically correctly, and not ironically wrongly.
Can you elaborate on this? How do you correctly lift ironically?

>>39820357
I'd rather die than stop

>>39820243
Yes

>>39820367
The more ironically you run it, the better your gains. You can't halfass it, you have to try really fucking hard even though you would not typically be expected to try really hard.

>>39820343
Too lacie didnt download, post a sceeencap or something

>>39820343

Honestly, if it wasn't for all of the extra bullshit after the main movements I'd say it isn't so bad. If it was cut down to say 1 mandatory accessory exercise, like pulling or shoulder work, and 1-2 optional ones I'd say it'd be pretty good.

>>39820234
kek

>>39820330
Yeah, that makes sense.
I no longer care about how much weight I can lift. I mostly just want to look better.
Although part of it is that I've been under-eating lately, not because I'm anorexic, but because I'm depressed and rarely feel motivated to get food, so maybe lifting could give me a reason to start eating more.

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>>39820451
Why are you posting this in /plg/ ? I get that trappy is here but there are other traps that lurk this board

>I no longer care about how much weight I can lift. I mostly just want to look better.

go lurk a routine thread or cbt and find a good routine for trap there's loads of them out there, or you could google it

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>>39820451
>trans
>doesn't care about strength
>lifting for looks
>anorexic

In the most polite way I can muster:
Get the fuck out of here.
>

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>>39820451
1 google search

>>39820477
Sorry. I was only posting here because I got talking to trappy.
I'll stop now.

>>39820425
>extra bullshit after the main movements
whats wrong with it?

>>39819719
how many fucking times are you going to post this image

>>39820642

As a beginner, it's not stuff you need. You'll look past your main movements and won't go as heavy on them as you normally would because you have all this other shit to do. It's best to just keep it to 1-2 accessory movements that you do if and only if you have the energy after doing all of your other main lifts for as heavy as you can do them.

>>39819397
Are sheiko's stats in kg or lbs?

>>39820781
It doesn't really matter. I'm sure kay gees are the default, but inputting lbs wouldn't change much. You might have to do your own rounding. If that sounds scary, you'll have to tweak the formulas.

>>39820856
Tried both and it's the same. Good for me, I live in Europe.

>>39820001

That depends. Do you mean you intend to start up Texas Method and then make progress while cutting? That's probably not going to happen to a great extent.

If you mean "I've been on TM a while and am about to need a taper/deload, can I drop ten lbs in two or three weeks and keep strength" the answer is probably, if done right.

>>39820168

Don't do LISS. There is no benefit, it'll only beat your legs up even more.

>>39820199

Generally speaking, biological women are going to have a lower androgen sensitivity than traps.

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>>39821004
>Don't do LISS. There is no benefit,
Cardiovascular health, fat burning, and increased blood-flow to muscles that benefit from it.

>it'll only beat your legs up even more.
If walking, biking, swimming, or hiking at a low intensity effort for 45-60 minutes "beats up your legs" then you are an out of shape piece of shit that needs GPP more than you think.

Do you max after the 4 weeks of prep in sheiko? Which one do you choose? Is there a difference? All these numbers and prepatory cycles seem a little confusing? How do you exactly run this program? Can someone enlighten me? This is about the intermediate medium load

pls repond

So I'm over doing LP programs, SS and Greyskull, and want to move onto something more advanced while going down the powerlifting path. Should I go texas method or something else?

>>39821035

No powerlifter has problems with cardiovascular health that jogging is going to solve. Fat burns from doing literally nothing. There are much better ways to increase blood flow that don't either exhaust or beat up yourself.

You are a faggot. LISS is exclusively for faggots.

>>39821096

Texas Method with a focus on bench press, treating OHP as an accessory

>>39821141
>Texas Method with a focus on bench press, treating OHP as an accessory
So just don't rotate OHP and Bench?

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>>39820653

I'm going for the world record.

>>39820491

A lot of pseudoscience, barely useful at all.

>>39820451

Lifting, and exercising in general, are one of the most important things to help fight off depression or just general sadness.
Also it makes you look better and is good for your health in general.

So get motivated and get started!

>>39821069

You can do:
prep 1 -> first week of comp
prep 2 -> first week of comp
prep 1 -> prep 2 -> first week of comp
prep 1 -> prep 2 -> comp (if you're competing)

The tests he suggests 105% but you can go higher. Do like 3 attempts on each lift and see where you stand, then restart or move on.

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finna go try and pause 200 squat

will b 5kg pr

>>39821237
Do you have an archive of all the TM routines you had on fitsticky somewhere?

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>>39821272

http://imgur.com/a/l54a1
http://imgur.com/a/WElep

I think that's most of it.

>>39821237
After the prep, do I max out? Seems like waiting 2 months to see gains is a long time for an intermediate.

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>>39819397
does anyone know of any modifications I should make to this program if I want to use it to peak for a meet?

>>39821141
>No powerlifter has problems with cardiovascular health that jogging is going to solve.
Lol. Go get your blood pressure checked. Sounds like you need some cardio.

You're not a """"professional"""" powerlifter. Do some cardio you fat fuck.

>>39821096
Texas Method is a great next step.
If that doesn't toot your horn, look at the reviews that Izzy posted:
http://www.powerliftingtowin.com/powerlifting-programs/

>>39821351
It's not really a peaking program.

>>39821314

First week of comp you max out on the second day.

>>39821373
Thanks. How did I miss that? Really thinking about doing this. Having run TM like a mad man, I'm gonna take 2 weeks off and do some fuckarounditis in the gym to deload a little. Gonna see what I do from there.

>>39821351
I'd just do it as written. I personally wouldn't use it for a meet because there isn't much work above 85%, but i've still been getting PRs every 3 weeks.

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>>39821399

Do eet, Sheiko is bretty gud.
Inflate the bench a little bit tho, unless it's too hard as is.

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>>39821369
>>39821415

OK, interesting. @trappy, thoughts on >>39821351?

>>39821440
>when joe cant bring himself to quote someone he wants a response from

I injured my lower back (self-diagnozed disc bulge) squatting about 13 months ago, and I haven't fully recovered yet. The physician I went to just set me back about 6 months with the ill advice that she gave me. I read up on Stuart McGill and bought a book of his and started treating myself. I got better, almost instantly, but I still have minor pain here and there. I started working out again, but I had to essentially reset my squat and deadlift, and drop my bench by about 30-40%.

Should I wait until I'm completely pain-free or is it "safe" to train with minor pain (almost never while I'm lifting, mainly random times throughout the day)? It seems like this could take months. I don't want to sit on my ass all day. I've fixed my form issues that caused the injury in the first place but I'm still a bit scared that I will fuck up myself, badly.

I know this place is probably not the place to ask but whatever. Bad experiences with professionals in all health related fields, not just this instance.

>>39821290
Cheers mate.

>>39821520
What did the book tell you? Just the big 4? Which book, I'm curious because I get back pain/injuries

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>>39821520
>Does the pain worsen with activity?
Stop/reduce/change activity.

>Does the pain stay the same with activity?
Continue activity at reduced intensity/volume and monitor pain levels.

>Does the pain reduce with activity?
Progress cautiously in activity.

Doctors will always recommend the """safest""" route: rest until no pain.

>>39819397
i squat wider than shoulder length. am i cheating?

>>39821535

The Big 3 + Cat/Camel stretch every day with improved quality of movement in all areas of your life. From sitting, to tying your shoes, to brushing your teeth. It all comes down to finding as many pain free zones as possible and trying to stay in them as long as possible, while also strengthening your core, which in turn leads to recovery on all levels, even when the pain is chronic.

>squat conditioning was abysmal (3RM@75%)
>do a lot of high rep sets for five or six months trying to improve it
>can now do five with 75% (which is now heavier by about 20 freedoms)
>feel like getting stronger is actually hindering my progress a little
Why can't I just be happy, plg?

Also, which kind of cardio will help this the most?

>>39821586
75% is like your 12 rep max tho

>>39821565

It differs from day to day. Sometimes I go through a full workout while barely feeling anything, even when doing deads or squats.

Some days I feel it most when benching.

Some days I might feel it in one rep in one set.

It seems pretty constant. It doesn't get better. It doesn't get worse.

>>39821585
Which book was it?

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>>39821351
>>39821440

It just looks... inappropriate for peaking.
I'd start by removing cg bench sldl rows. Pause squat is fine.
I'd move the last day to the first of the last week or the third of the first week. Then remove the new fourth day of the last week.
Do less reps. Everything is above 5. You're not gonna compete with reps. Focus on 3-2-1 for most of the main work. Specially on the second and third weeks. That will require you to adjust the % of those days as well, so I'm attaching a guide for % and RPE.
Remove all accessories from the last week.
Increase all the sets of the main lifts in the first week by 2 (1 for day 3, if not swapped with the test day).

This is a start but there's a lot of work to do.

>>39821599
Not for me. It's close to that on every other lift, but squats are just really fucking hard for some reason.

>>39821617

Back Mechanic. It's designed to self-diagnoze and treat al kinds of lower back pains. McGill himself even says that self-treatment is generally better if you have the right information.

Yo trappy pls, or someone!

How do i program for my father who is 55 years old and have been sitting in his couch for 15 years?

I am not quite sure which exercices to have him do. His body is pretty much in okay shape for having lived like he do, there is no injuries or anything like that, he is just really really fucking weak and i dont think he can squat or overhead press for example, that would be to hard on his back.

I been thinking of having him do machines and stuff and strengthen him up so that he can eventually do the compounds.

What exercies can i have him do for his core, lower back and legs? Or just back/leg/core strength in general? I think he can do some variation of deadlifts with very easy weights, but i am not sure exactly how to work on his specific weaknesses.
Pls drop me some tips, information or links or something.

>>39821586
Are you incredibly slow-twitch biased?

Incorporate some short hill sprints, prowler work, etc. Once or twice per week. Short alactic efforts with decent recovery. Also have at least one day where you keep your heart rate over 120 for a significant chunk of time.

Also, try harder.

>>39821616
See an orthopedist, or not. General warning: some shit just breaks forever. Life offers no replacement warranties.

>>39821656
>slow-twitch
Don't really pay attention to fiber types. What does that mean?
I'll try sleds and and stuff, thanks. I currently do incline walking for ~30min once or twice per week (heart rate ~130-140).
I'm grinding out fucking doubles now with 75%, trying to fill in the volume I needed.

>>39821570
yes. same concept for people who do sumo vs conventional

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>>39821654

Start with box squats. If he can't with the barbell, use dumbells. If he can't go to parallel, put small plates under his heels.
Do overhead presses with dumbells.
Do deadlifts, with the bar if necessary. Use boxes or the safety in the rack to set the bar at an appropriate height for him.
Do chinups in the lat pulldown machine.

Do SS with those lifts, increase 1-2kg per workout.

Do back extensions, bodyweight. 3xF

Once he can OHP the barbell, add bench press.

>>39821684
TL:DR
You can improve speed/explosiveness with training. If you lack it, then you need to train it, especially for strength sports.

how do I become happy

>>39821716
kys

>>39821716
Experience as many unique things as you can until you determine what makes you happy. If that fails then see a therapist.

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>>39821716
>how do I become happy
Start at >>>/adv/

Because if lifting doesn't make you happy, then fuck off.

>>39821712
Got it, thanks. I'll look at fitting sleds or something into my training.

>>39821654

Legs: lunges, try teaching him goblet squats and slowly transition to front squats, do some prowler stuff, very easy to do and not that technical. Try to transition to hack squat machine after prowlers since the pushing pattern is roughly the same even though the other s unilateral.

Lower back: classic hypers, good mornings with bands, maybe some reverse hypers

I don't think there should be a specific focus on lower back to start with. Strenghten the glutes and overall core and the rest will follow.

He doesn't have a specific weakness: he is weak everwhere and would benefit from literally any movement that is weighted accordingly.

Keep it simple with maybe 3x fullbody

chestpress
lat pulldown
lateral raises
prowler/goblet squat stuff
maybe let him choose an ab exercise so he does something he likes. People often know tons of ab routines. Just make it burn and progress from there.

Start with something like this for 4 weeks and see what he thinks of it.

>>39821728

>>39819483
That's because trappy doesn't lift and only """"coaches"""" fetishists on 4chan.

>>39821708
You are a fucking MAN

XY CHROMOSOMES

>>39821712
>>>/fit/ get the fuck out with your shitty teenage BROSCIENCE fucking CHILD

>>39821716
KILL yourself

>>39821716
That's a meme
>>39821712
Is just sprinting once a week good enough? I don't really have access to any of that other crap.

>>39819483
That's because trappy doesn't lift and only """"coaches"""" fetishists on 4chan.

uh suck my cock faggots its feminine look 8=D

>>39821791
>sprinting
get the fuck out of PLG you cardio faggot

>>39821656

I don't even know what an orthopedist does desu, so I haven't even considered it.

All I've heard is that chiropractors are usually full of shit & the physical therapist didn't know shit.

Should I try another therapist first or is an orthopedist always the way to go regarding disc bulges and such?

>>39821819
Why are you asking a known dumbfuck? He'll just say something edgy to seem cool to his 16 year old friends

6-10 x 10 second sprints is easy to program.

So is 15-20 box jumps or broad jumps.

One or two of these per week will make a difference.

>>39821786
>teenage BROSCIENCE
Slow much?

>>39821819
Orthopedists are real doctors, so yes.

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Reminder that everything is going to be ok.

>>39821845
>Slow much?
see broscience below

>6-10 x 10 second sprints is easy to program.

>So is 15-20 box jumps or broad jumps.

>>39821815
Sorry for wanting better work capacity, my heart to not explode and not squat slow as fuck all my life

>>39821847
The future looks short

>>39821871
>not squat slow as fuck all my life
Sprinting wont do anything to help that, contrary to what Captain Dumbfuck here advices >>39821845

Hey plg
I'm but a humble new comer that just wants to get stronk, I don't even care about hypertrophy and looking big. What are some good routines for a beginner? I've been doing a lot of cardio and ring work and I think I'm ready for teh barbell. Also I would normally lurk instead of asking such a noob question but these threads seem to be some what of a clusterfuck of copy pasta routines and it's hard to pick out what information is useful

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>>39821917

SS -> TM -> Sheiko

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>>39821868
>broscience
https://www.acefitness.org/blog/5714/slow-twitch-vs-fast-twitch-muscle-fibers
Common knowledge. Educate yourself.

It doesn't take an anime board coaching certificate to know that if you are slow as dogshit, then doing more explosive activities will encourage adaptation to be less slow as dogshit.

>>39821837

what was edgy with his post?

>>39821938
I'd call you an even dumber version of buda, but he's about as dumb as they get, so I'll just call you a buda 2.0, since you're both fat, weak and stupid
at least he posted lifts of his pathetics lifts, unlike you, no lift posting, tranny and Sean obsessed faggot

>>39821944
his posts as a collective whole screams "my mother never loved me as a child"

>been in the squat rack for an hour
>two more sets of squats, followed by all of my sets of OHP, pause deadlifts, pause bench, and accessories
>hungry
Guess I'm not combining upper and lower today after all. Fuck that.

>>39821925
hey trappy, what about SL instead of SS?

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>>39821952
>you're both fat, weak and stupid
>at least he posted lifts of his pathetics lifts, unlike you, no lift posting, tranny and Sean obsessed faggot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

>Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against their own unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others.[1] For example, a person who is habitually rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude. It incorporates blame shifting.

>>39820199
have you considered tripping and posting in every plg?

upped my bench freq. to 3 times per week (jumped on sheiko)
started to learn how to play guitar
work as a programmer
spend all my other freetime in front of my pc

starting to feel cts symptoms in my left arm, mainly tingling and numbness. what to do boys? i don't think i do any of these horribly wrong, just a lot of stress on the arms in general. i also started to get sharp pains when benching with straight wrists and everything aligned properly, even at 50% weights

>>39821247
i only got 190 sorry ivan

>>39821980
Oh Im projecting? Then you can post your lifts cant you?

>inb4 you dont

That's what I thought, you no lift posting attention whoring tripfaggot buda 2.0

>>39822094
>while not posting lifts

>>39822112
Oh did buda lite take off his trip :((

>>39822094
Last comp: 89kg
Squat 235
Bench 150
Deadlift 260

645 total.

Technically a 411 Wilks, but I was just generalizing with 400.

Gym wilks is higher.

You?

>>39822133
no just joining in profiler

>>39822152
I said post your lifts not text on a imageboard, you no lift posting attention whoring tripfaggot buda 2.0

>>39821716
by becoming trappy

Did some snatch grip deadlifts and my erecotrs are like iron rods.

I seriously can hardly bend. They keep your spine in such a nice position.

Would recommend

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>>39822168
Lol fuck off.

>me
Actual competition lifts.
Straight.
White.
Male.

>you
Make believe life.
No lifts.
Obsessed with trips.
Gay. Like, super gay.
No Wilks.
Gay.

Peace out, motherfucker. I got better shit to do than wave my dick in your face. At least the tranny talks lifting.

>>39822259
>>39822259
>Make believe life.
>No lifts.
>Obsessed with trips.
>Gay. Like, super gay.
>No Wilks.
>Gay.

All projections

I'd call you an even dumber version of buda, but he's about as dumb as they get, so I'll just call you a buda 2.0, since you're both fat, weak and stupid
at least he posted lifts of his pathetics lifts, unlike you, no lift posting, tranny and Sean obsessed faggot

>>39822259
kill yourself faggot

>>39822259
Closeted projecting fag

>>39822269
>>39822270
>>39822284

You know who is firing on multiple devices. He must have gotten banned from the discord.

>>39822259
Why do you trip here? Nobody likes you.

>>39822300
I'd call you an even dumber version of buda, but he's about as dumb as they get, so I'll just call you a buda 2.0, since you're both fat, weak and stupid
at least he posted lifts of his pathetics lifts, unlike you, no lift posting, tranny and Sean obsessed faggot

How do I grow my chest?

I genuinely have no idea.

>>39819516
Did you say depressed? Trappy thinks you should go to cognitive behavioral therapy even though it's just remarketed bullshit like the rest of psychiatry.

>>39822430
kys

>>39822430
Move things with it. angrily if necessary.

>>39822430
Flyes and bench more

>>39822482
>>39822489
I do both but it's still not huge
What's one weird trick Owen hubbards hates?

How the hell do I deal with SI joint pain, I haven't been able to squat in a month

>>39822524
You sure it's si joint pain? If it's lower back pain I can help.

>>39822513
Do it for a very long period of time

>>39822430
Flat bench is a fucking meme. Honestly ring dips and flys have grown my chest way more than fucking faggot bench press ever could

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>tfw no gf

>>39822682
Benchlet detected :^)

>>39822840
You're not missing out on anything noteworthy

>>39822524
Search for gains not pains article on RTS.
Watch OmarIsuf's videos with Jake Noel.

Did blueshoes ever mention whether or not he had a coach or went at it himself

Anyone lurking?

Wanna talk about training?

What did you lift today?

>>39823279
Gonna max out rack pulls later and do some light deadlifting for volume. What about yourself?

>>39823279
me

I just started c6w its fun and gets me to the gym more often than what I was on before so I like that

nothing because gyms closed all week 3:

>>39823293
That sounds fun, right up my alley. I maxed out snatch grip deadlifts today, I did 180kg.
It was my first time doing them in heels, and I actually discovered that I prefer pulling in heels, and my shoulders get in a better positions and lessen my range of motionn.

I went from locking out at dicc to locking out at balls.
Quite the achievement.

>>39823279
Looking forward to doing day 2 of this >>39821351 tomorrow.

>>39823318
Looks quite fun, I've never ran it but supposedly it gets pretty hard. I wouldn't worry about your him being closed, all this time off will rid you of any fatigue and you'll start off again strong,

>>39823279

I found a really cool gym near me with several national weightlifters, the owner actually worked with a coach from the USA olympic team for a while and he himself has been weightlifting for over 10 years. It sounds pretty awesome to be honest because I've been looking into trying out oly lifting and it's probably a hell of a lot easier learning from a coach rather than trying to learn it all myself and potentially unlearn it later on if I have issues with my form.

The only issue is that the pricing is about $200 a month for me as a student (normally it's $250) and my current commercial gym is like $50 a month I think. From what I've seen the equipment looks great (bunch of eleiko stuff, lots of platforms) and the price of coaching is included in that figure, but it is quite a lot of money and I'd probably have to work extra hours on top of my schooling to pay for it.

This is just a blog post but I felt like talking about it.

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so another day of sheiko is done
felt like shit and everything felt tight
did some high bar for fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys1A4JxATF0&feature=youtu.be

>>39823326
Interesting, I wonder if the heels helping is due to glute engagement or something. That's definitely not normal but everybody's different. Good on ya for going your own way, people around here tend to get memed into thinking there is one correct way shit works.

>>39823279
Had a really good training day today. Worked up to a 100%x1 squat, then set a bench and deadlift pr. Everything moved really well. Even the squat 100% was nowhere near RPE 10.

What did you do today anon?

>>39823402

Very nice frogman

Well done

>>39823413
I'm guessing it has a larger quad imvolvement, and I was slightly stronger off the ground as a result, which has often been a sticking point for me.

I can see myself deadlifting more in heels in the future, but benching with heels suck and I'm not too sure I like squatting in heels either.
Changing shoes might get annoying...

Thanks though for the kind words :)

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How did I do, lads?

https://youtu.be/4P2c_m4iQWc

Is Hancott alive?

>>39823544
no i killed him

>>39823560
who the fuck are you

Why is there no permanent plg discord invite?

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>>39823588
im his Herniated Discs

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>>39823402

b s3r1

Remember lads, long femurs don't keep you from squatting below parallel.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BNGA-_RhIWV/

>>39823592
Because I delete them

https://youtu.be/7duPNQCp-w4

>>39823696
Is it unwise to hold your breath for 2-3 reps at a time on squats?

>>39823738
i do it all the time, really depends on the weight and how long it takes for you to get dizzy

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>>39823738

Not really, as long as you can keep the technique and worry about the squats instead of worrying about getting out of breath.

>>39823733

holy shit

spooky warning this!!

Besides the spook I was impressed.
In my opinion, most people who complain about long quads just have bad ankle mobility and aren't using heels high enough.

>>39823787
I get pretty dizzy when I do more than 6 reps with any weight. But I like holding my breath for multiple reps to get the set over with quicker before I die.

Asked here how to cut on the TM. Nice chap told me to do 2/3 volume and just go for maintenance numbers every ID. If my volume was 5x5, and I take this down to 2x5, does this mean I do 2x5 with a heavier weight than 5x5?

Or shall I cut on a different routine

Thanks

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>>39823734

>>39823848
Noice.
You always know how to make me happy, big man.

>>39823830
Cut on a different routine. There's really no need to cut the volume by 1/3 when cutting. I'd do something with longer training blocks, like 5/3/1, 28 free, or sheiko.

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Tfw only two days in the commonwealth of shitposting left

>>39823868
I wish woot would ban Australian trips

>>39823868
How did you manage to go for a holiday to Australia whilst unemployed?

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nn plg

I hope you had a great Wednesday

I hope you have a great Thursday too!

Remember to try hard and good things will happen!

>>39821214

Late response, was gym.

I do OHP on "Light day" 3x5. Starting off pretty light and progressing weekly until it gets heavy enough that I'm either REALLY struggling to get reps or I begin to feel it's leaving me fatigued for Friday Bench.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/3qtuu9chp88sejg/Practical_Programing_for_Strength_Training.pdf

I'm just doing the Texas Method For Powerlifting program outlined in that book. It's simple and reasonably effective. Though my bench is quite lol, it went from a previous max of 285 to 315 lbs with about three months of training. I'm on about an 8 week cycle of it right now, and we'll see what happens.

>>39824112
ily

>>39824157
Trip on literally everyone in plg

>>39821656

You do realize this is /plg/, right?

Silly CrossFit cardio bullshit is detrimental for ALL powerlifting purposes. Fuck off.

I have a max bench of 60kg, I'm about to start roiding, and there's nothing you can do to stop me.

Happy holidays, fags.

>>39821708

>Box squats for a 55 year old n00b

What the fuck is wrong with you people? A regular squat is going to be enough of a chore for him, making it more difficult is only going to cause problems and hinder improvement.

>Back extensions to failure

Yeah, there's no way that won't end in crippling, life-altering soreness for three days after that with very little benefit.

>>39821712

>You can improve speed/explosiveness with training.

[Citation Needed]

Vertical leap, the objectively best way to measure "explosiveness" to weight ratio (ie "speed), is demonstrably not very trainable. Maybe you can get a 10% increase out of an untrained guy via weight training and explosive lifts like power cleans.

Training power is a waste of time for powerlifters (ignoring the horrible naming convention). Powerlifting is pure strength, applied with technique. Therefore, strength training is the most effective training.

In fact, strength training will increase one's maximal power output by MUCH more that training power output will increase strength. As an example, my fat, strong ass can throw a hay bale farther than a 130 lbs poofter with a 40'' vertical leap

I'm certain that sports you are referring to as "strength sports" are really power sports (Olympic weightlifting, American and rugby football, golf, ice hockey). Being able to slowly move 600 lbs isn't as useful in American football as it is to be able to move 350 lbs really goddamn fast. BUT, being able to move 600 lbs slowly will help in moving 350 lbs fast.

>>39821819

Orthopedists are actual doctors specializing in dealing the musculoskeletal issues like joint, muscle, or bone injuries.

I'm sure there are plenty such dipshits that will tell you that squatting is bad for you're knees, because people are retards, but these people are, on average, less retarded than chiropractors and the like

>>39821975

What the fuck is so goddamn appealing about SL? Is it that "5x5" is nice and even and satisfies your various autisms?

It's shit. Absolute dogshit compared to SS. If the problem with SS is that you either lack the equipment to do power cleans, or are just scared like a little girl at the prospect of power cleans, just do "speed" deadlifts (basically a pull with the speed of a power clean without the hassle of racking it on your shoulders) for 5x3 with 75% of your deadlift weight when the program calls for power cleans.

>>39822004

>starting to feel cts symptoms in my left arm

Start jacking off right handed.

If you have been jacking off right handed, start doing it will the left.

>>39822430

Does this look like the Bodybuilding For Complete Faggots General (/bbfcf/)?

>>39824269

Box squats tend to be easier to teach new lifters. Also less stress overall. Wouldn't use it for everyone but it's a viable progression for beginners.

No point going to failure on back extensions though. Higher rep basic movements have their uses to get people used to moving properly and feeling it but going to or near failure is counterproductive to that.

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>>39824269

You're thinking of the wrong type of box squat.
I'm talking about partial squats where the you use a box to determine where it ends.
It's what Boris does to teach kids to squat. Works very well to teach older trainees.

I'm not talking about westside box squats.

>>39823279

>What did you lift today?

Squat 2x5 315 lbs
OHP 3x5 175 lbs
Chin Ups 3x8

I fucking hate light day. An hour spent lifting like an idiot, nothing but easy reps and protein farts, signifying nothing. I feel like a 115 lbs MtF tranny that spends all of >her time on a Mongolian pictogram website when I write this shit in my log

>>39823387

>$200 a month

Just spend your $50 on the gym membership, save the other $150 for a goddamn year, and buy your own barbell set up.

>>39824378
Why did that take an hour? Should've taken no more than 30 mins.

>>39824357

>I'm talking about partial squats where the you use a box to determine where it ends.

Well then, I could see how that might help if he's incapable of doing a proper squat with just the bar. Though in such a case I'd be more likely to have him leg press some leg strength up real quick so that he can freely squat the bar. Possibly also stretching if that's a serious problem, which, in my limited experience dealing with mostly younger or at least halfway active people, it never is.

>>39824432

When you're dealing with older, sedentary people you tend to run into two major problems.

1. They're immobile as fuck.
2. Because they're immobile as fuck and don't do shit day-to-day, they've got next to no idea of how to actually move even in the ROM they do have.

Box squats tend to help here because they give you a consistent target and an easy method of progression. It also tends to help with confidence, lots of these people have confidence issues with squatting straight down (and for good reason, they don't usually have the mobility or control to do it properly. They'll freeze up, collapse or divebomb. Very rarely will they actually get it right to start with).

It's bad enough that a lot of people who deal with that group heavily will actually program a few weeks of very light DB/machine isolation work and mobility tests before they let them anywhere near a barbell, just so they'll have even a basic idea of what it feels like to have certain muscles firing and can develop some basic coordination under load. You sometimes get the same issue with complete couch potatoes who start out training. People with a history of activity may have some mobility or form issues, but almost never to that kind of extent.

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>>39824432

I work by progressively lowering the box (and increasing the weight slowly) and also having them do no-weights squats with heels to work on getting used to the movement and gaining mobility. Eventually I also include paused box squats with less weight.

I managed to get a 51-52 years old woman with a knee injury and no mobility to squat her bodyweight almost ATG (her knee physically couldn't flex more) for 5 reps with this strategy in a few months. No leg pressing, no anything besides squatting. Mainly because we didn't have leg press at the gym kek.

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>>39824403

Well, there's a warm up and some stretching afterwards.

There's also some utter fucking retard with legit brain damage that will not shut the fuck up about whatever stupid shit he's talking about and leave me the fuck alone. Unlifting dipshit wants to keep extolling to me the benefit of really heavy quarter squats and the Gospel According To Arnold (if Arnold supports even half the shit this retard spouts, he is a terrible human being), and tell me all about his Harbinger straps that velcro around one's wrists and how that'll totally help with power cleans (all while I'm trying to do goddamn OHP). It takes him forever to actually say that shit too, because he's always babbling 90% disjointed gibberish, using "yeah you know man fuck man" like it's a fucking comma. This shit adds at least a fucking half hour to anything I'm doing.

I'm constantly besieged by scrubs, being the strongest person in the gym by a comically wide margin, but this shitty little idiot is by far the worst. Everyone else has the basic fucking decency to let me shit in peace and keep their bad advice goddamn short.

>>39824495
This is why I love having a home gym. Why not wear headphones? Isn't that what people do in gyms to avoid talking to fags?

>>39824525

I'm cheap as fuck, and refuse to spend a bunch of money on shit until I move out of my parent's attic.

Corded headphones will get in the way of lifting. Wireless ones are generally pricey. AND I have a middling Samsung phone that isn't as good for storing oodles of music and shit on it as an iPhone or some such.

I might annoy people by just using my phone's speaker to play music off YouTube using the gym's WiFi. Not that I can hear it if one of the fucking dance classes isn't blasting "PUSSY WIDE OPEN" loud enough for the Steak'n'Shake across the parking lot to hear

>>39824544

Corded headphones aren't usually a problem, depending on what you're doing. Just run the cable down inside your shirt rather than letting it hang free.

Letting your player sit under your shirt above your belt when squatting/pulling/etc is helpful too.

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No gym til January

It hurts to live lads

How did /plg/ spend winter break?

https://youtu.be/o4DZ_UvMAXk

god tier depression music

in other news, I'm going to do two days of training today in an effort to stop neglecting my relationship and spend tomorrow romancing.

So drunk that my face is coldsweating.
Wat

>>39824544

Also, I would not put it past this dingbat to just grab me in order to get my attention.

I shit you not, I was trying to take a dump in the bathroom by the basketball court because for some reason the one in the locker room always smells like two hobos having sex in a piss soaked dumpster in July, and this fucknut walks in an starts talking to me (only after trying to rip the door to the stall off before I confirmed that I was indeed in there, hence it being locked). Then he shut the fuck up, said he'd stop talking to me, and went into the next stall and kept saying shit to himself in what I could only assume was an attempt to get me to comment and rope me into another conversation.

NATURALLY this was one of those sloppy dumps that took forever to triage so I was in there for at least 10 minutes listening to this mental patient mumble to himself about the "Philosophy of Truth."

Not making a goddamn word up. "Philosophy of Truth" is a verbatim quote

>>39824595
ur really an alcocuck? I thought Sean was memeing.

>>39824571
Hnnnggggggg

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Trappy is gad and her prophet is _______

>>39824637
My dick

>>39824608
I'm not, he is.

>>39824637
Sean

>>39824658

Is this confirmed Trappy? Because it looks like a greatly different nose. The Trappy above has nostrils that are tilted up enough that you can see halfway up them when >she is looking down.

This fellow has more downward and wider nostrils

Hey plg. Theres a pretty good chance i'll be spending febuary in jail. County jail doesnt gym time or any equipment, what kinda bidyweught excercuses shoukd i do to maintain or build on my 1100ish total.

>>39824637

I still contend that >she looked better with the brown hair.

>>39824707
nah thats candito

>>39824707
That's Ha*no, Trappers ex.

>>39824724

They are not ex, they are close friends.

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>>39824795
>close friends.
Seems that they share the same squat rack.

That is REALLY close friends. I dont share my rack with NOBODY.

>>39824814
I wish trappy would share her rack with me

I wish you would all kys

I

Only

Desire

Death

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>>39819518
>tfw

Ded thred

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>>39824710

There isn't much you can do for legs, unfortunately. Pistol squats and glute ham raises and that's pretty much it. So your squat and DL will suffer for sure.

There are lots of things you can do for pressing muscles though, so your bench might be fine. Pushup and variations, dips and variations, handstand pushups

>>39825618

It's sleep time for most posters :p

>>39824396

Yeah but I wouldn't get access to coaching or any of the gym's other equipment. I could easily learn myself with the weights at my current gym but I want to be sure that I'm doing them and progressing correctly.

>>39825635
Thabks, im gonna see if another inmate wants to pair up so we can squat and deadlift each other. Its just county so theres no concern over unwanted gay sex.

how do i become bikini model?

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>>39825770
where i am at currently

>>39825785
Smooth detected. Ywn bikini model

>>39825635
Hey bby, what routine would you recommend for an anon who wants to do the big 4 but also wants to start a cut?

It has been some time since i did these lifts, so just picture me as a novice trainee.
Thanks bby.
Feliz ano novo, cachorra.

>>39825809
>big 4
>cut

Wtf is this retard blabbering about

>>39825843

I'm assuming the Big 4 refer to Ric Flair, Ole and Arn Anderson, and Tully Blanchard

>>39825948

Please. Everyone knows its JJ, not Ole.

Oh fuck is it WCW time.

MY NIGGERS

>>39826009

It's still JCP to me, dammit.

You know, Ric Flair totalled around 1500 in competition way back in the day. I heard Ed Coan talking about it at some point.

>>39826025
Literally who? And literally who?

>>39826035

Ric Flair is the father of Charlotte Flair, the most important professional wrestler ever who makes history every single day by being a woman that's capable of doing things.

Ed Coan fucked your mum, but unlike your father, had the good sense to jizz on her face

>>39826047
[citation not needed]

Thems the facts

>>39826047
>professional wrestler
ahh the fake sport. As expected from loli feds

>>39826174
Trip on fagsley

Just pulled 485 laddos. 5pl8 so close i can taste it. Tastes like mediocrity desu.

>>39825222
is this picture fake?

>>39826174

Big E Langston held records in the USAPL before his weight class was retired because the entire IPF is going full weight-class-babby vagina lifting like Olympic Weightlifting.

I'm pretty sure Mark Henry STILL holds a USAPL squat record.

Which makes pro wrestling more of a sport than the half squatting, super-equipped lolfeds. More of a sport than ALL equipped "lifting," really

>>39826461
Didnt mark henry have the highest total for a while?

>>39826461

He doesn't. Even if his records hadn't been retired with the weight class change, Ray Williams would've taken them.

>>39826471
Ray or blaine if they were equipped

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Henry

Hmm how many times did you go to the olympics isley? Oh none? How many all time raw drug tested records do you have in usapl? None?

Hmm its almost as if isley is a complete faggot who has no right to have an opinion of anything...

>>39826469

According to Henry's wikipedia page:

>Squat – 432.5 kg (953.5 lbs)[7] raw with knee wraps (done on October 29, 1995 WDFPF)
>currently heaviest walked-out raw squat of all time (without a monolift) regardless of weight class or federation since 1995

Among other overly specific squat records. Though I was mistaken, his USAPL record is in the deadlift

>Deadlift – 410 kg (903.9 lbs)[8][33][35] raw (done on July 16, 1995 ADFPA (USAPL))
>former all-time raw world record deadlift in SHW class until 2010[50]
>current all-time highest raw deadlift ever pulled by an American in SHW class (+regardless of weight class) since 1995
>current Open Men American record deadlift in SHW class (+regardless of weight class and equipment) since 1995
>current drug tested raw world record deadlift (in SHW class only) since 1995

Whatever the fuck "drug tested" means.

Also:

>official weightlifting total + official powerlifting total = Combined Supertotal: 400.0 kg + 1060.0 kg = 1460.0 kg / 881.8 lbs + 2336.9 lbs = 3218.7 lbs raw with wraps
>current all-time highest combined weightlifting/powerlifting total in history (since 1996*)

>>39826471
>>39826478

Big E (Ettore Ewen) was a RAW lifter, first in the 275 lbs category and then in the super heavyweight category where wikipedia SOMEHOW credits him with a record RAW deadlift of 799 lbs, in direct contradiction of their own article on Henry's record. Though, given the tradition of EVERYONE GETS A RECORD bullshit in powerlifting, they might have considered it a different weight class if they lowered the minimum weight for Super Heavyweight.

Regardless, I'm 99% sure it was Michael Tuscherer that broke Big E's records before the weight classes were rearranged

>>39826484
Really
Makes
You
Think

>>39826536

That page is outdated. The only one of those records that still stands is the drug-tested raw SHW record (and it's only the third highest tested raw pull, there's higher at 308 and 275).

>>39823733
think this guy would be able to squat much more than 315, even with a lifetime of training?

>>39826662

If he made it a major training goal, yes. I'm guessing he has more pressing athletic pursuits though.

I just deadlifted with a belt for the first time. Felt comfy as fuck. Why didn't anyone tell me before??

>>39826770
How new are you?

>>39826778
2 years in

>>39826770
>>39826796

Anti-belt fags are a fucking cancer upon /fit/ and upon lifting

>>39826803
May as well use a forklift desu

>>39826814
No. Do equipped powerlifting

It's actually fun.

>>39824637
It's always the shoulders and hands that give trannies away.

>>39826844

For a suitably masochistic definition of fun. It's one step removed from playing the gimp.

>>39826844
Might as well just do steroids as long as you're doing silly shit to lift bigger numbers.

>>39826962
Nah. You can take the equipment off and then you're exactly the same rawmie you were before.

Also equipped is undeniably more technical

>>39827063
>operating devices is more technically involved than lifting things with your body


No shit sherlock

>>39827063

Yeah, gotta alter that form to make sure your suit is lifting the most amount of the weight for you possible. Wouldn't want to actually get strong or anything.

Out of curiosity, what is your equipped squat?

>>39827063
Stop what you're doing and check it out everyone! Inspector Gadget is going to lift less than people who aren't shitty! What a marvel! Truly amazing!

>>39827083

And yet every good equipped lifter is also strong as fuck raw.

Funny how that works. A huge amount of the general strength base is built the same way whether you're competing raw, in gear or in one of the other strength sports.

>>39827083
Dude. To be the best at equipped you also have to be among the best or the best raw.

My equipped squat in comp is 245 is a really soft suit and 280 in a real suit

>>39827092

And yet every good raw lifter is stronger than the equipped poofters are without their elastic

Can anyone explain to me why equipped lifting isn't a retarded mastubatory joke? Legitimately curious.

>>39827106

You can think that, but you'd be wrong. There's a reason so many guys are ranked in both divisions and its not unheard of for lifters to hold records on both sides. Technical proficiency matters a hell of a lot, but strong is strong.

>>39827106
Well, SAID.

But also Sweden's best 105kg equipped lifter has a raw total just 10kg less than Sweden's best raw 105kg lifter and that guy couldn't do the same in equipped

So desu that's not true.

ITT: Isley taking his trip on and off so that it appears someone agrees with him.

>>39827106
>elastic

confirmed for not even knowing what eq is

>>39827116
No one can because it is

>>39827116
It's exactly like raw powerlifting but slightly harder

>>39827083
>Blain Sumner isn't strong
>Eddie Hall isn't strong
You know you've gone full retard, right?

>>39827116

Every sport is a retarded mastubatory joke.

Raw and equipped are just different sports, almost like comparing high jump to pole vault. You can do ridiculous shit with the equipment that isn't possible without but it takes a different sort of skill and effort. It's not like you can just throw on a shirt and get a bench PR.

>>39827159
In the same way car racing is exactly like bicycle racing eh?

>>39827166
Actually I've met and helped three people do exactly that in the shirt

But it was a shirt too big for them and they only did 10-15kg more than their max

>>39827166
I can accept this answer. Now explain to me why equipped lifting is fine but untested lifting is not? Really would like to hear dumb fuck Isley's take on this.

>>39827178
because its ipf legal and a legit test of skill?

Make a month long discord invite so big man can come back

>people forgetting AGAIN that 10 years ago if you lifted raw YOU were the fucking retard

>>39827178

I don't have a problem with untested lifting. Just a problem with enhanced lifters trying to bullshit their way into the tested division when there's a perfectly good untested division right fucking there.

>>39827178
Dude even garagebro can answer this >>39827190

>>39827190
Who gives a fuck about ipf in the context of reality? Implying untested lifting requires no skill is the same as implying equipped lofting requires no skill. If Isley hopped on gear he'd surely be in about the same ranking as he is now except he'd be in a different pool of lifters. Steroids aren't fucking magic.

>people are forgetting that 100 years ago if you weren't out fighting the Great War YOU were the fucking retard

>>39827199
>Idolizing the past at the cost of rationality

>>39827202
This is the only reasonable opinion.

>>39827208
Because the equipment rules now mean it's not an arms race

Everyone uses the same squat suit (with a couple of exceptions). The same bench shirt (no exceptions) and the same DL suit which is basically identical to the squat suit only maybe a bit bigger. And everyone uses the same four or five knee wraps down to preference and they hardly make a difference between them

So it's just lifter skill and strength as factors. Because of the ipf approved list.

>>39827202
I take steroids and I compete USAPL. It's the only recognise federation, why wouldn't I compete in it?

>>39827231
the sport wasnt designed to be for the masses

the IPF saw a moneymaking opportunity at the expense of the lifter

its become so diluted and now everyone has 'powerlifter' in there instagram or facebook name and they have a sub 300 wilks

>>39827244
I don't know why you replied to me but addressed absolutely nothing I said. Actually I do know, it's because your cognitive dissonance is so intense that you are literally blind to logic.

>>39827208
Lots of untested feds are shit not because of roids but because they tend to pass high squats and allow all manner of degenerate benching i.e head off bench, heaving, initiating lift right from hand off etc, as well as just a generally lax and unprofessional atmosphere like the judges being personal friends of the lifters and shit like that. I'm mostly talking American lolfeds here, you guys know what I'm talking about.

If the IPF had a separate untested division with the same strict rules and judging it'd be AMAZING. Then all the talentchad questionable natties like Norris could go on huge blasts and do absolutely ridiculous things. Don't tell me that wouldn't be sweet.

>>39827296
Oh shit a poster with a brain what the fuck

>>39827296

There's nothing wrong with the judges being friends with the lifters (it's pretty much inevitable even with the IPF, given the size and budget of the sport). The problem is favouritism, or more rarely grudge holding, from the judges.

Tfw Isley gets cornered and scurries back to discord where Lith will jack off to him flirting with his girlfriend

>>39827305
Honestly not even Isley can disagree with me here apart from the (shit) argument that it would hurt the IPFs clean image and jeapordise chances of getting into the Olympics. Which is just a question of autism and public perception really.