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>>39795825
Everyone is baking cookies and shit. God damnit, tren please bless me with those nutrient partitioning skills.

>>39791779
Merry Christmas, Anon. Thank you

>>39792682

I mean, do what you want, but I'm more interested in my own acquisition of heroin than other's use of it...

You could just like, talk to me or something

REMINDER:
=-=-=-=-=-=
REAL MEN don't use -- or need -- steroids. EVER.
Only silly little insecure manlets use such things.

/thread

On 500 test e right now. If I cruise for three mo after then blast @ 500 again, would I be able to PCT off? I start med school next fall and I don't want use while in school.

>>39795940
why not blast all the way to school then come off

how is that cruise benefiting you

post your experiences with GW-501516 please

>>39795951

you want me to blast for 9 months? right now I'm gonna blast for 3, cruise 3 the blast for 3 and PCT.

>>39795964
>you want me to blast for 9 months?

why not, youre not going to use in your 8 years of med school and residency are you?

id cash in while i can, but thats just me. Youre acting like a 250mg cruise is healthy too, 250mg test is still a lot bro

>>39795917
iktfb ate too much pie today

whatever

>>39795940
you can do exactly what you said if you so choose

that being said, why not stay on during med school? Even if you can't commit as much to the gym, you'll likely continue to feel the benefits of being on ~200mg test/wk at a high-natty level. It's so inexpensive (literally pennies) I don't see why you wouldn't

>>39795951
>>39795984
this is literally autism

250mg is quite potentially not a supraphysiological dose for some people depending upon response rate, obviously that depends on the individual (get bloods) and also depends largely on the ester at that dosage, too

>blast for 9 months

yeah don't be a retard and do that.

Does clen help with cardio or make it more difficult / hard on the heart?

Keep seeing conflicting things

>>39795984
Either way, my question is about restarting the HPTA after 9 months, is it possible? Or should I just cycle twice (PCT twice) I have Nolva and HCG, and can get clomid if need be.

>>39795488

Why the fuck are people on this board so unwilling to discuss roids? Someone in that thread literally said they'll kill you

>>39796001
can potentially help with endurance, puts a large strain on the heart in the process and can cause other heart issues

if you're considering clen, try ECA. If ECA doesn't work for you, try DNP. I will personally always recommend DNP before clen

albuterol is also an option as well

>>39796008
varies on a per person basis, nobody can tell you if you'll 'fully' recover or not, but the chances are high that you will. Now, if you were low test to begin with, you have to consider if it's worth it for you going back to that

>>39796012
because of the "look I'm doing it the PURITAN way" autism

life is all about cheating your way through everything you do to outperform moralfag retards :^)

>>39795999
220mg put me at 1200 ng/dl test, thats p high mate

if your goal is health you shouldnt be using at all, 250mg is sitll going to harm you, dont ever try to act like its healthy.

>>39796008
ive come off so many times without any pct and ive been fine

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>>39796028
>220mg put ME at 1200ng/dl
>ME
>E
wackaflacka'okay'.jpg

seriously, everyone has a different response rate. Also, he never said anywhere in this thread that his cruise was 250mg, he said 'cruise' which could mean as low as 100mg if he wanted. I provided a figure of 200mg, but even at the supposed 250mg figure a 4x response (quite common) is only 1000ng/dl

>staying within natural physiological range is still going to harm you
>I've come off so many times without any pct and ive been fine

W H E W

Anyone have advice or experience with MT2? I'm natty for now and want to get a tan without much UV exposure. I have pale skin

>>39796049
no personal experience but have a friend who ran it pre-comp once

use it daily or EoD (look into dosages based on the level of tan you're expecting, or your personal response) for 1-2 weeks. This will get you to the point you want to be at, then use it once a week or once every couple of weeks to maintain the tan

obviously you'll still need some (just greatly reduced) UV exposure to aid in the process

>>39796059
Cool. Are there doses of test that can actually improve health? Or will any amount always permanently damage my heart

>>39796049
shredded healthy pale skin > fake tanned dickskin lobster bag of smashed assholes cancer

>>39796028
>>39796023
>>39796046
my cruise was going to be 200mg/wk. I just haven't really seen any stories about coming off after 9 months. It's either 3-4 months ( usually a good recovery) or 2+ years (takes an insane PCT routine, complains of ED and never posts again). y'all have any evidence/stories of it being possible?

>>39796072
Staying within natural ranges (usually 400-1200ng/dl) can improve health in a variety of ways if you're low test. Low test can actually lead to more heart related issues than having a higher (but still normalized) testosterone level. If you're concerned about health but still want to boost performance slightly (assuming you're low T) hop on a cruise dosage of test that puts you at the high normal range (1000-1200ng/dl)

obviously get bloodwork throughout the process if you're that concerned with health

also>>39796077 t b h

>>39796077
There's plenty of pictures of natural, nice MT2 stand

>>39796091
Plenty of nice natural looking MT2 transformations online

>>39796049
It works really well but you still have to tan with it or you get a weird yellow-brown color and a lot of moles. It works best as an amplifier for UV-based tanning. A couple of hours in the sun or an hour in a tanning bed and you'll be dark as fuck with MT2

>>39796088
I'm 420ng/dl. An 80 year old shouldrhave those levels. I'm 25.

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>>39796087
already told you ive been off cold turkey many times, pct drugs have so many sides

>>39796046
>>>39796028 (You)
>>220mg put ME at 1200ng/dl
>>ME
>>E
>wackaflacka'okay'.jpg
>>39796046
>, but even at the supposed 250mg figure a 4x response (quite common) is only 1000ng/dl

;)

Catching feelings for new gf big time

I love the beginning of a relationship everything is wonderful

>>39796117
for sure, hype for 2017 gf <3 :3

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>>39796087
There are plenty of stories on reddit regarding people who have PCT'd even after 2+ years B&C and had full recovery.

Keep in mind, full recovery means recovery back to normalized ranges for the individual, and if you were low test before hopping on, that's likely where you'll end up again.

Much of the PCT fuckups come from people who run something like EQ or Deca and don't give such a long estered compound time to clear before going through a PCT protocol, thus fucking their entire PCT and ruining them

On just test? You'll likely be more than fine. Although again, I advise you to look into just cruising through rather than coming off.

>>39796113
Then if you're absolutely concerned about health, hope on a high 'natural' level of test. Get bloodwork, and put yourself around the upper range.

>>39796114
>one value is out of range that can correspond to anything from heavy drinking to oral usage to the fact that blasting higher dosages was done prior to a true cruise

again I fail to see the point and

>ive been off cold turkey many times
>BECAUSE OF THE PCT DRUG SIDES

is actual, literal autism

post tiddies or permanently suicidal post-'pct' depression face

>>39796108
So like 20 minutes of sun a day on cycle? I jog shirtless

>>39796077
> bag of smashed assholes
still missin JM

>>39796157
have you ever come off cuck? ive come off prob 3 times with 6+ months of blasting with NOTHING AND GUESS WHAT IM OK. im glad you enjoy making your dealers richw ith shitty pct drugs

novlva and clomid are fucking terrible

>trying to dispute my bloodwork

top kek m8, i was on 200-225mg for that entire semester

get off reddit and GET IN THE TRENCHES YOURSELF

>>39796183
>what works for me will work for everyone else

>>39796190
did people always PCT? hmm makes you think

>>39796183
>I've come off 3 times and im ok
>personal anecdotal
still waiting on them tiddies :^)

>MY bloodwork
yes we all know the retard who tried to bridge into normalcy from using exogenous hormones without any drugs to help recovery his natural HPTA ability is the prime example of intelligence, health, and reasoning that should be paraded throughout the autism-blog-fest that is /fraud/ as the perfect example of how to base your steroid cycles

you're a might cranky, mommy and daddy didn't seem to get you the new racecar bed that you wanted for christmas, did they poopikins? :^)

>>39796199
did people always wash their hands before doing anything medically related? hmm makes you think

wtf is your point

>>39796201
my gyno shrinks when i come off gear, doesnt increase bud :)

yeah because pumping breast cancer drugs that cause vison loss and EXTREME brain fog is so smart and wise right?

think for yourself, love cucks like you though, an extra $40 every order

>>39796209
people have been coming off gear with no support for a long time, PCT is a recent invention to make dealers $$$

this whole PCT "depression" is due largely to the PCT drugs imo

i like hcg a lot though, wouldnt put that in the same league as nolva/clomid

>>39796214
>an extra $40 every order

What kind of fucking retard buys finished products anyway?

I can guarantee you I sell gear to more people here than you do you fucking autist (but I don't actually mods, it's j-just a j-joke)

Buying from a monkey like you I'd probably end up with a vial full of cough syrup rather than deca

or do we not believe in cough syrup because it can cause brain fog while it aids in helping reduce the damage that the cough can cause?

>i'd rather experience depression, potential permanent HPTA shutdown, permanent low test (if any), or gyno than some mild brain fog for a few weeks

>>39796228
>dealers

oh LMAO nevermind fucking dropped, it's a nigger who figured out how to work his local libraries computer

>>39796253
>i'd rather experience depression, potential permanent HPTA shutdown, permanent low test (if any), or gyno than some mild brain fog for a few weeks

he actually believe in this

good goy, into the filter you go

https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/

>i NEED to pct
>i NEED a test base
>i HAVE TO run test higher than deca

seriously hate faggots like this

r-r-reddit says i have to

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>>39795928
Merry Christmas. =)

>>39796291
what have you used without a test base?

>>39796354
tren
npp
mast

on npp/mast right now going to add tren in tomorrow

NO TEST

The look is much better, but for my goals im going to need to put test back in.

This vitamin acne blast is so effective i might be able to blast test hard again

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>>39796366
How much b5 and acetyl l carnatine are you doing per day?

>>39796366
did you use all of them together?
have you ever used a single compound solo(excluding test)?

>>39796228
Pct is a meme...?

>>39796377
im blasting it hard right now before college so i prob do

Pantethine (active b5 form, get this) 750mg 3-4x a day

ALCAR ~500mg 3-4x a day

you dont need that much carantine but i take that much because i like the focus

the Pantethine is a lot stronger is on sale at powder city right now

my skin care routine comes down to that stack, kojac sponge to exfoliate and shea butter for a moisturizer

shit is PRIME

>>39796380
ive done tren solo and it was pretty nice

ive learned that mast or any dht is a must for me so i always keep it in

plenty of people do deca solo and like it but i think npp solo would be better.

the whole notion that you NEED test is retarded, look at 70s bodybuilding

>>39796405
imo yes, do your own research, experiment and come to your own conclusions

people always like to shit on my vitamin stuff but

vitamin d
zinc
high fat diet
boron
and some other shit was a way better PCT than nolva or clomid ever were

im going to come off this summer and try using HCG throughout my last blast and see how it affects recovery. That will be interesting

>>39796446
i throw in 1g or so of regular b5 each dosage too because i have so much of it

shit is beyond legit, fuck accutane

>>39796446
I'm sick of feeling low T. 420 ng / dl. Can you link me to a beginner's cycle

>>39795962
Used it for 16 weeks @ 5-10mg ED ( not 100% sure of the consistency of dose bc my solution of ora plus + ora sweet had clumps of coagulate in it that would periodically get into the dropper ) in a manner similar to Yohimbine (dosed in the am with coffee followed by fasted LISS cardio)

Yuge cardio gains that pretty much went away a few weeks after stopping the GW, but the best part was I was able to melt off about 6% bf (18% -> 12% @ 165 ending weight, according to one of those hand held bf calculators with metal handles) though this was helped by a pretty hard cut at the same time. Natty otherwise at the time.

Felt like it hit right away (stimulant like effect) but it took a few weeks for the effects to build up to the point where I saw fat loss and cardio gains. Would love to run again in combination with cruise dose test, but am thinking of trying yohimbine next (which I hear is good for getting rid of "stubborn fat" whatever that means)

Can't compare to other fat burners like clen or DNP, sorry

>>39796452
have you ever tried to raise it naturally?

300-500mg test e

>>39796464
not in it for the fat burning, just the endurance

seems pretty sweet, how much were the raws per gram?

any sides?

>>39796446
i've used deca solo and felt really terrible. lots of brain fog, slept a lot, no motivation. i wasn't even memeing myself.

>>39796477
i didnt like deca either, NPP feels much better

>>39796476
It was found to cause cancer in multiple organs by GlaxoSmithKline in 2009.

Doesn't seem like the type of thing you would want to experiment with.

Reference Articles: Geiger LE, Dunsford WS, Lewis DJ, Brennan C, Liu KC, Newsholme SJ (2009). PS 895 - Rat carcinogenicity study with GW501516, a PPAR delta agonist. 48th Annual Meeting of the Society of Toxicology. Baltimore: Society of Toxicology. p. 105.

Newsholme SJ, Dunsford WS, Brodie T, Brennan C, Brown M, Geiger LE (2009). PS 896 - Mouse carcinogenicity study with GW501516, a PPAR delta agonist. 48th Annual Meeting of the Society of Toxicology. Baltimore: Society of Toxicology. p. 105.

PS would 200mg test suffice as a first cycle? 300mg seems pretty high. I just want 1100 ng/dl

>>39796087
I was on for over 2 years, came off with just a bit of HCG. A standard Clomid pct should put you right back to normal.

>>39796497
>Mouse carcinogenicity

seen a lot debate on forums about it causing cancer, my research leads me to believe at standard doses humans would be fine

i dont really care either way, im trying to be #1

200mg is fine if you just want high levels,

>>39796476
>how much were the raws per gram?
I bought 1g from a reseller @ 35/g

Might be able to get it cheaper, but I was spooked enough by the cancer scaremongering around this drug to not invest a lot in bulk raws. Did a bit more research on it recently while researching yohimbine and am not as scared.

Have a copypasta of links but I'm away for the holidays and don't have my main computer.

Endurance was great. Went from being a typical gymbro who couldn't run at anything more than a jogging pace for 10 minutes sustained to being able to keep a pretty decent pace up for about an hour and 15 mins or so by the end of it. Was back down to around 30 mins 2 weeks after coming off.

>>39796497
iirc these studies were based on VERY long usage times (over 2 yrs) at levels way higher than what humans use it at (when you convert/account for the difference in the animal models)

>>39796446
does your dick work when you run npp solo or do you count on the mast to provide that function?

>>39796510
What about 150 mg? Maybe start there and move forward? Where do I get my blood work? I don't wanna fuck up my insurance by setting off anabolic steroid alarms

>>39796477
Run a small amount of test instead of none, 50mg should have you feeling better.

>>39796497
200mg is a high replacement dose, not a "cycle" dose.

>>39796531
that was over a year ago, i've learned my lesson.
>>39796521
on deca solo my dick worked fine, but i had no motivation to play with it. fapped like once every 1-2 weeks

>>39796521
>I bought 1g from a reseller @ 35/g

i just mailed china, well see what i get

people are running it for about 12 weeks, seems about right?

ive never used nandrolone solo, i dont think it would go well for me. i need the dht to control sides

i think it would work solo if i kept e2 in range

>>39796525
youre your own boss bro

figure out what you want from roids and go from there, theres plenty of good trt posts online

www.reddit.com/r/steroids for the basics

>>39795825
how does test e 250 compare to test e 500 for a first cycle?
Will the results of test e 250 really be that much worse than test e 500 if its my first cycle??

>>39796590
400mg minimum for a cycle, you simply won't make rapid enough gains to be worth it otherwise.

not a steroid question but i recently started taking jiu jitsu. whats the best pre-mix I can drink before jiu jitsu to let me perform at my peak for an hour? I gas out like half way through and just get submitted like a typewriter. is there anything beyond caffeine?

>>39796157
I don't want any extra variables to effect my performance in school. Trying to do ENT (or gen surgery) so want to be on the top of my game.

I didn't mean to start a huge argument on PCT, just wanted to know if it was possible. i could always just PCT twice, but would prefer to just do it one. I'm probably just going to use HCG for the two weeks between my last blast and PCT and use novla and clomid, and if I get any vision sides just stop clomid. thanks guys!

>>39796709
You won't need it. Trust me it's a waste. Literally gives you no advantage and doesn't make it enjoyable... in fact the opposite.

If i start a cycle my testicles are going to shrink?

They go back to normal after the post cycle right? Right lads? In the future I want babies

>>39796709
Sounds like you just need better conditioning m8

>>39796838
undeniably

I guess it isn't a good idea to try and get used to taking something before every class

>>39796836
Testicular shrinkage is from endogenous testosterone production shutdown, spermatogenesis isn't always shut down too (see the guys who get their chicks preggo on gear). Your nuts will shrink but will come back to normal after you come off. Or you can use HCG to keep everything acting the same as normal throughout.

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is it worth the experience of doing a cycle to learn how a high test male thinks/acts?

I had my test checked a few months ago, I'm around 450 ng/dl. is this too low to train natty to ~22-23 FFMI?

>this roidaroo in my gym sees me mirrin his vasculairty
>glares at me
>'don't look at me man'
>'I don't like it when people look at me man'
>'why are you looking at me man'
>rapid fire short bursts
>spins around 180 degrees
>speed walks out of the free weights area

What kind of shit is he on lol?

>>39796937
Sounds like he's gone on vacation upstate a few times.

>>39796921
When is HCG necessary as opposed to an option?

>>39796937
He ate a bunch of stuns prewirkout and he gets anxiety as a side effect.

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>you will never look like this
>why live

>have shit deadlifts
>roid
>good deadlifts
>stop roiding
>good deadlifts remain

How so?

>inb4 good PCT

I don't do PCT, I just eat a lot and take normie tier supplements. It's already been 4 months, I'm not slowing down even slightly.

>>39797196
>saving your own picture with a 4chan number post
we know you lurk fraud lotus

best glute only isolation lift, go

>>39797214
how so? are you fucking retarded?

>hurr my only "knowledge" of gear comes from television and facebook

>>39797214

are you..serious?

>>39797232
Wasn't me, was having Christmas dinner with family the past several hours. I lurk the entertaining threads and fraud is one of them, mainly due to masT.

Why do I always feel like I'm getting a cold after I make out and fuck a girl

Think I need to take AI e3d on NPP, came very quick

>>39797448
>Think I need to take AI e3d on NPP, came very quick
you are the dumbest person on the planet

>>39797461
Not true.

Also to fix cumming fast you just get hard again.

>>39797461
why do you say that? Nandrolone still converts to estrogen

>>39797560
Wasn't feeling it

>>39797437
yeah whatever you fucking nigger

>>39797574
old but gold

>new years reso
>gonna cut all useless sweets, drinks and maybe even tobacco for next blast
not that I eat that much shit but the almost daily sipping with going out to eat few times a week puts a nice dent to my budget

quitting caffeine other than pwo and tobacco is usually really easy but with gf who sips and smokes it's gonna be a tad more challenging.. but the gains are gonna be craycray with perfect diet + GVT on blast

>>39797669
>GVT
r/steroids get out

>>39797669
>>new years reso
kill urself

>xD new years im gonna go to the gym and not be a fat piece of shit!!!!
>but first let me eat 9000 calories a day in deserts, afterall it's thanksgiving/christmas/newyears eve

Whats your trough cruise level leds? I got down to 550 once and felt like utter shit.

>>39796452
Test e 500
Anastrazole .5mg every other day

>>39797709
Lmao faggot maybe he actually appreciates his grandmother and eats her pies

>>39797946
>ahh it's only january 1st. i have the whole year ahead of me. ill start in a few days. afterall we have all these leftovers

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>>39797574
At least his genes aren't recessive. Go fuck yourself.

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We survived x-mas faggots? Fucking shit was awful. Fucking inferior people with their inferior behavior.

>You don't like pork?
>no i can't eat pork because of my religion.
>uhh yeah at least there are things like chicken and meat i guess
>right right
>krrr crickets crickets krr krr

Why can't people just understand i just like to be myself and just accept the way I am.

>>39797196
He got insane genetics, aka bbc genetics. Imagine he would be on gear, btfo will be insane. It's not even funny

Look at Victor Richards, 18 years old.

BUT MUHHH MAGIC MUH TREN

get a fucking grip

>>39797964
Fucking this. I FUCKING HATE THIS WEAK MINDED ATTITUDE, let's wait the whole year to do something i won't even do, because that's the only delusional thought that's keeping me from killing myself.

I hate people, i wish i wasn't people like you people

>>39798239
No such thing as "bbc" genetics honestly. I'm skinny as fuck and it's terribly hard for me to gain weight even if I stuff myself. Hardgainer bone structure too, thin wrists, etc. Pretty sure the average black guy anywhere is skinny as fuck too. Insane genetics are just that... insane. You have to be an anomaly get them.

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FLAWLESS.

>>39798287
What are you talking about? I can't help it you can't comprehend the fact that are people just better than you ass. But in your brain you try to flee, flee from this terrible and awful thought.

I also was skinny af, could eat everything i want but just wouldn't gain. You have seen my wrist? They could easily fit in your ass hole. There was a time that i weigh 50-60 kg also due to amphetamines and being skinny.

>buttt i can't gain weight
>i can't do it
>i can't
YES YOU CAN IF YOU WANT IT.

That's that weak minded thought that's keeping you from making it. Everyone can be big, you only need to eat enough. You just don't eat enough enough and not the right nutrition

>>39798345
I'm just saying I don't have imaginary meme genetics. I know it takes work.

>>39796924
not at all

but it needs DEDICATION

which most kinda lack

>>39797196
mostly cause i ain’t black

huehue

>>39797946
word

had like 11000 calories from 23rd evening to the moment i type this not even giving a fuck cause will punish myself for it later which i actually look forward to

granny is best

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>off cycle
Rreee I want my confidence back

>>39798564
Do other non-roid drugs in the meantime.

>>39798567
what an innovative yet effective concept.

>>39798564
>>39798567
/fraud/ in a nutshell

>>39798564
>>off cycle
why

>>39798567
They do nothing for my non-existent confidence
>>39798602
Ok
>>39798645
My hairline started going down the shitter so I quit. Also apparently messed up my liver values. But now I realize it's worth it because I hate living hating myself.

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What do you faggots get for x-mas?

>>39798397
You're searching for excuses to be fucking lazy and not being the best you can.

EVERYONE can look good till a certain extend faggot. Genetics only matter if you wanna compete.

Even with good genetics, you still need to work your ass for results. I am working my ass of, but it's paying fucking good results as you can see

FUCKING FAGGOTS I AM GOD

>>39798769
>What do you faggots get for x-mas?
I'm not 12

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>>39798762
PSO + SAW + KETO SHAMPOO + BIOTIN. I am also doing scalp exercises, not sure if it works, but something works that's for sure.

I was devolving a little widow peak before using these stuff. I now got even hair growing under my own hairline.

This was my hair before going to the barber(half wet out of the showe), it was so fucking grazy thickness everywhere. It was getting too thick imo. I am happy it's now a bit thinner. When it's dry it's just insane how thick it is, especially after keto shampoo.

Since the keto shampoo i got new hair growing on places i never got any hair growth

>>39798809
I am sorry you and your family are poorfags

>>39798769
>What do you faggots get for x-mas?

oh boy you shouldn’t have asked now i’ma list all of it cause i’m bored

from
parents: expensive alcohol and an all inclusive weeklong stay in one of dad’s client’s hotels
siblings: sister nothing, what a cunt; one brother a set of adjustable dumbbells for traveling; other brother dunno we gonna meet up in january then i’ll see, probably drugs
gf: dirty a2m without complaining before or after (i wish i was kidding), also a nice aftershave
grandparents: feisty homemade schnapps, same for gf’s grandys
myself: resources for an absurd blast starting jan 2nd aw yiss
boss: mid-tier wristwatch, gonna pawn it for gear and tell him it’s too precious to wear for work everyday kek

can’t really complain

>>39798769
>what do you faggots get for x-mas?

What about you bby? I'll bet $20 your gf got you a hat of some sort, no idea why other than intuition

>got dad the same hiking pack he got me so we had a laugh at that
>gonna go hiking wednesday with him
>got a stack of ironman mags (OP pic) from the 70's-80's
>lots of other camping shit, small stove, water filters, waterproof rucksack, etc.

brewed pretty much all of my roiding buddies' their next cycles. Gave my friend who does BB comp's more test/tren/mast/sdrol

was a p good xmas

>>39798873
gibe link to keto shampoo pls, all those I found seem overpriced and kinda meh

>>39798892
>gf: dirty a2m without complaining before or after (i wish i was kidding)

Why did I “awww <3” so hard at this

>>39798892
Nice, but why is your gf greedy?


>>39798895
Mostly money, clothes and so on.

Nice nice.

Wouldn't it be easier if they just gave us roids?


>>39798903
I am lucky because i know someone who got keto shampoo on prescription. Top tier stuff.

Regenepure DR would be the second best i guess. It has 1% keto instead of 2%.

>>39798873
Is the keto shampoo the miracle reagent of these 4 or?

Is there a beginner's guide to /fraud/?

>>39798984
No, because before i used the keto shampoo i already saw increased thickness. I would say that keto is for new hair growth and the others just for thickness

The combination is just fucking insane for thickness

>>39799008
It's on reddit.

Not being a cunt, it's really there.

>>39796183
Retard

>>39799093
thanks, think I found it.

>>39799041
Hello retard who tries to keep hair with a strong dht-based roid(mast) and natural supplements to reduce dht hahahahaha

>take dbol and go workout, don't drink at family reuinion tonight
OR
>take a day off, don't take the dbol, make the family reunion bearable by getting drunk tonight
fuck I can't decide

>>39798935
not necessarily greedy but she invested heavily into colombian marching powder but failed to turn a profit because she sniffled up her assets kek
>hey anon i don’t have much money this xmas whaddaya want that won’t ruin me
>either bareback a2m or a threesome with your sister (whom she loathes more than pence loathes gay)
>… k
aftershave was just so i had something to unwrap in front of my folks cause banging her right on the living room table was not an option


>why don’t they just give us roids
>implying my folks have better sources than i do hue

>>39799134
lol fagget I took superdrol yesterday and today while drinking both days.

>>39798935
Hm ok I thought as much, otc 2% would have surprised me desu.

Still gonna look into it, thanks for recommendation.

>>39798984
there is never a miracle reagent when it comes to stuff like this. Never. Its always the combination of a lot of different things.

Just like with lifting, where doing 1 thing right isnt gonna help much, but if you autistically take care of all deciding factors = boom you get big.

But if i had to rank them:

Scalp exercises

POWER GAP
POWER GAP
POWER GAP

pso
Keto
saw
biotin

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>>39799123
>"tries"
>mad because it works

>>39798935
is 1% really worth it? all studies I find only report great effects with prescribed 2%.

>>39797946
yeah i dont understand why these cunts get so upset if somebody doesn't go 100% on their diet throughout the year.

i still train hard and BnC and make great gains even while acting hedonistic by eating unhealthy foods on top of all the healthy shit many times a week

but when I do blasts I tend to focus on my diet and training, I would get burned out just training twice a day eating brown rice and chicken with broccoli if I couldnt enjoy my occasional burger with coke and a tobacco

>>39799123
keto ain’t thaaat natural breh

>>39799175
also forgot to add that swollenglands is a clueless dyel

>>39799184
GASP! Next you’re going to tell us bimbo is gay!

>>39799191
bimbo aint gay bro

>>39798873
What were the exact dosages you took for the pumpkin seed oil and the saw palmetto oil?

>>39799224
3000mg pso
2000mg saw
keto once a week
5mg biotin

>>39799235
Thanks, gonna try this.

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>>39798593

>>39799235
>keto once a week

Shiiiiet nigger I used it every damn day since I bought it two months ago.

Am I gonna die?

>>39799215
I was merely pretending to be retarded for my amusement!

>>39799245
same desu

>>39798239

Blacks have shit genetics, this guy was just a freak

also he is defo already on gear

>>39799255
Keto, causes much much much much more irritation and inflammation of the skin than normal shampoos do. Irritation/inflammation of the scalp = hairloss.

Im surprised you didnt go bald in those 2 months.
You have 2 options now: You continue doing that and hope you will keep your hair, or you do the recommended protocol of once a week.
Who the fuck even told you to use that shit everyday

>>39799235

is that saw 2500mg extract or dried berry equivalent?

>>39799306

2000mg extract*

>fraud up
>get pretty big
>still have a 5inch dick, 3inch flaccid
>looks even more ridic now

haha kill me

Does fraud has a guide/paste bin?

Pls no ban

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>>39799504
lurk more

>>39799517
Thanks.

Anyone know where/how I can get steroids in Australia? I have a home gym therefore im not around the gymrats

>>39799628
whatever you do, dont buy oversea, you'll get busted and lose all your gains in prison

domestic is expensive af tho

>>39799504
reddit steroids wiki

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>>39795825
How does this sound for a natty looking to start pinning after 4 years of lifts and a shoulder operation that should take a while to recover?
2-4IU HGH per day split into two doses post workout and before bed.
And 500mg per week test with 12.5mcg T3 per day for about 50 days

>>39799647
Fucking war on drugs man. I should be allowed to do whatever I want with my body unless im competing

>>39799296
The fag I bought it from (he’s got it on Rx). Will beat up for trying to fool me, then only use once a week.

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>>39799123
As long as it works. NEVER CHANGE A WINNING TEAM, but since you're never winning i understand your JELLYNESS

>>39798984
What Moosey is saying, it's a combination of things.

>>39799281
>Blacks have shit genetics,
>also he is defo already on gear
LMAO

you're fucking retarded while not even knowing it. Where did they get these people from?

>>39799296
Every time when i use keto i lose a lot of hair. Not even with water or normal shampoo i lose so much hair.

That shit is full of acids. Even some hydrochloric acid, I would never use it more than once a week.

>>39799806
How much hair are you losing on test only? Is low dose of mast enough to fuck your hair up?

>>39799764

I always assumed you knew your stuff at least a little, but if you think that lotus is natty I guess your just as uninformed as anyone

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Pro tip:
All you have to do is eat correctly when natty and your anterior delts will grow this massively.

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anybody got any advice over the BS i bought, fucking grandpa i hope hes not shilling this company and im hoping its good

>>39799671
HGH is a very good call for injury recovery, also look into TB-500 (a peptide) for localized injury recovery

You would need to run the test longer than 50 days, unless you're just meaning to say you're only running the T3 for 50 days, in which case that's fine. Why the T3, though?

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>>39799879
On high dose pretty worse. I get it when i stay on longer, no matter what i use.

>>39799907
He's obviously natty. But seeing your dyel results, i understand you can't possibly comprehend that could also be achieved natural.

>>39799945
Life's a bitch if you just don't got it.

Kek at everyone who doesn't believe i was natty in those pics. Don't you understand that you're giving me a MASSIVE boner for not believing i was natty in those pictures while i was clearly natty in those pics.

hey guise late merry christmas. about to run my first cycle in a couple weeks, does this look solid?

1-10 week-
500mg Test-c (250mg twice a week)
Arimidex .5mg twice a week

12-16 week -
Nolvadex @20mg everyday
Colmid @50mg everyday

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>>39800062
extend your cycle for 6 months i see no reason to do any less than that but your PCT and on cylce anti estroge is good enough

>>39800062
Extend your cycle to 14-16 weeks. Add a oral kickstarter.

PCT:
Nolva; 40/40/20/20/10 mg if you go for 16 weeks. Some people swear by using HCG during a cycle for better recovery. I dunno much about it, but worth to get more info about.

>>39800051

It's because they eat trash and put in zero effort and make zero progress. Then roid to look dyel. They feel self conscious/insure blasting and cruising to look worse than Nattys so they try to convince themselves they were on gear to protect their fragile self esteem

One exception is bimbo poor guy doesn't realize natty limit for a 6'5" guy is a beanpole

>>39800070
>>39800075

thanks! in this case would I just buy another vial of test to add up to 15 weeks? how would this affect my dosages and timing and what else would I need to change. A friend of mine wrote this for me and I would have no problem extending, just not sure what would be needed

>>39800075

also what is an oral kickstarter?

>>39800075
standard PCT protocl btw
>>39800097
6 months of anything espeicaly test is pretty gucci mane

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>>39800080
Give this man a medal. He got his shit together

>>39800097
Not, just stay at 500mg. Up the dose at 8 weeks to 750mg, or when you feel you start to stagnate. No need to go higher than 750mg. I felt really shitty when going higher, but that's my personal expiernce.

>>39800108
Google it. Depending on your goals, you can go for dbol, test p and so on. I kick started with test p with a cycle(100mg eod), was pretty good for quick and lean gains. You will feel like a pincushion

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>>39799979
I'm still absorbing a lot of info on the stuff. I've never used anything before and i don't have anyone to ask or really look to for guidance other than the net. So everything i posted is mostly regurgitation of the stuff i read about.

>>39800075
>>39800113

40/40/20/20/10

^ if I'm taking it for 4 weeks only how would this plan work?

>>39800135

or is this for 5 weeks my bad

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMigR7a_UHI

merry fucking chrismas faggots heres my favorite song/music video for you guyies

>>39800135
5 weeks if you extend it to 16 weeks. 4 weeks pct for 12-14 weeks would also work imo.

40/40/20/20 = 4 weeks(cycle is 12-14 weeks)
40/40/20/20/10 = 5 week(cycle is 16 weeks)

It's no rockets science breh

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>>39799950
That's a fucking waste. They're all just ingredients from OTC test boosters that don't really do shit.

>>39800049
>>39799671
Y'know it's a sfw board right?

>>39800158

alright thanks homie. is pricing allowed in this thread? Or is it only sourcing thats banned

>>39800167
sourceing is banned but speak of price and you should be fine.

funy now that the owner is a japonese and roids are legal there still treating it as illegal oh well

>>39800175

the only mf source I can find is trying to charge me 120 for each vial of 10mL test-c. Didn't know sourcing would be this hard. But my dude is telling me not to pay more than $75-100 for a vial of test-c

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>>39799950
i never recomended any of that besides DIM and DHEA for people unwilling to PIN but fucking tell us how it works faggot
>>39800164
dudes fucking retareded i only recomended 2 things and this asshole takes 40 billion and thinks itll be bettter than steriods.
>>39800181
if your american than sourcing is easy Im currently looking at 5 before i buy during summer but its fucking cheap as shit so keep digging

I'm thinking about injecting into delts and glutes since i'm self pinning. Would I just alternate each week? Or would I just wanna choose one or the other (delt/glute) and just alternate it each week

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>>39800181
Lol look harder. You shouldn't be paying more than 25-30 for 10ml of test.

>>39800190
>dudes fucking retareded i only recomended 2 things

Yeah I only remembered you saying diim was good.

>looking at 5 before i buy during summer
Homebrew master race. 100ml of 250mg/ml tren e for $100. Wew, would cost 5-600 from a ugl.

>>39800229

Damn. I've been looking and asking around for a month and have only found one guy. My retarded friend paid like $260 for 2x10mL from him and started without me.

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>>39800245
You're US? Buying local is never a good idea because of price gouging and the risk of L.E.

Your friend is pretty dumb for paying that and only getting 2 vials.

>>39800229
how do you make tren anyway?

>>39800265

Well this is from an old high school friend so I'd feel comfortable buying from him, instead of some random person at the gym. Signing up for a new gym next month so I'm trying to source & gtfo

>>39800229
that i did i DIM is great for short esters and acne, to lazy and poor right now to homebrew but after my first cycle i willl

>>39800229
>>39800128
>>39799671
nigger post more of your best gifs and pics.

they 10/10

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>>39800314
what a gay faggot he likes 3D women

2D master Race reporting in

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>>39800164
>Y'know it's a sfw board right?
I apologize, we are in agreement that such pictures would provide quite the inconvenience to someone browsing in a public place.
i honestly didn't even stop to think.

what do you use to fix puffy nips? not even gyno

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>>39800302
Oil, solvent, bacteriostatic preservative and tren raws. Then filter that shit. Done.

>>39800303
Well he's ripping you off majorly so I wouldn't consider him that good of a friend. But I guess that's the reality of the real world drug trade.

>>39800335
I mean by all means post grills but blur the nips or something so you don't get b&.

Happy Boxing Day fraud.
Hope you had a great Christmass.
Of to the gym to work of all the junk food.

Excited to see the damage when I jump on the scale.

>>39800382
i got news for you

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>>39800625
5lbs on average for me 2 whole chicken and 10lbs of veggies n 2 days is the worst i get

Developed a double chin on cycle, even at low bf% I still got it

Any similar stories?

>>39800844
Some details would help nigger. What are you on and what's your ai?

>>39800844
Totally.

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>>39800859
Lol

>>39800844
My dick grew 10" on cycle and stayed like that. Pretty cool if you ask me.

>>39800844
cough

cough

cough cough cough

enjoy your glands faggot

>>39800755
I try to eat healthy during the holidays, but you pretty much have to eat the cookies your sister made. Or the cake your mom made, or the cheesecake Santa Claus your other sister made, and try the eggnog etc.

>>39800854
Water weight maybe.

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>>39800051
Post your delt routine when you were natty then faggot. Or whatever you involved your anterior delts in. Post your numbers back then as well.

Here have Netherlands finest 1/10 slag for your troubles

Inb4 no reply and the sound of crickets or worse U FAGGOT NO BELLEEEVE ME NATTEEE HURR DURR HAHAHAHAH

>>39800876
Sounds terrible. What would I do with a 36 in cock?

>>39800854
Test E 500 a week and Adex .25 eod

>>39800892
It's not nearly as bad as your shit Glands, just a double chin

>>39800959
so you're just fat, are you fucking retarded

>xD ill eat whatever i want and itll all go to muscle. really gonna stuff my ass this christmas, good thing im on roids xD no fat gain just muscle

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>>39800928
Well it's actually 10.5" now so I use it as a battering ram occasionally when stuff gets stuck.

>>39800998
I said I still have it at a lower bf% retard, around 12% now

>ruining gains with Hanukkah sweets

>>39800925
masT has said multiple times that he doesn't even have a routine lol

>>39801087
Fucking hell m8.

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>>39801108
all you need to do is hit your muslces till failure 4 times a week m8y

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>>39801119
So that will make ones delts into bowling balls even when natty as he states.

Not jelly, but am very interested in the routine he did when natty in order to make his delts so impressive while natty. If all it takes is one to have a clean diet with zero junk food to make my anterior delts grow to a size that would make a roid user jelly, I will never again eat any crap as I remain natty. Since mas was natty when he made that leap from zero delts to delts that make a meat head faggot like me do a double take.

Oh and in case i didn't say the word 9 times, natty.

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>>39801137
if you want big delts then pullups till failure every day of the week is your only chance of getting towards yoru goal, frequency, wheight used and total volume all have to be increased in order to get maximum growth

>>39795939
So the hundreds of Olympic athletes that have roided, the sportsmen that pinned and pill popped, the medal and belt winners who went on to gain lucrative contracts and adoration, which is what it's all about, aren't real men?

You're a fucking idiot. Daily reminder that roids>natty.

>>39801151
you need to stop posting

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>>39801156
never, how do you grow delts ? faggot ?

>>39801031
ok sure

either you are a cuckold with a recessed jaw, or you are just another delusional fat fuck who thinks hes 12% but is actually 20%+

>>39801151
>if you want big delts then pullups

>>39801152
Lol ignore the shit poster. I'm not sure if it's even a troll or just a fraudster pretending to be retarded.

>>39801137
what is this whole routine meme.
Why do you need an autistic order of exercises and a specific number of sets and reps to get the best results.

All you need to get big is

-heavy weight
- Various different exercises for the muscle group, hitting it from all "angles".
-Going close to muscle failure on every set
-as many sessions per week as possible, so like 4-6 times
-low rest time. I rest 30 seconds between sets, and like 1 minute the longer the session lasts.
and no i did that as a natty already, not just on gear.

How does a fucking autistic meme routine fucking matter?
So you it tells you to do 3 sets of DB Press and then 4 sets of later raises.
So if i do lateral raises first and do 2 sets instead, i lose all my gains?

Lift as hard and as often as possible = get big

Thats fucking it.
And im not going to comment on masT's delts, just wanted to give my 2 cents on meme routines

>>39801152
why do people still respond to that. lol

>>39801163
Could be water weight too. Some guys get supreme moonface on cycle.

>>39801176
if hes 12% hes not getting a double chin from water weight lol

>>39801165
Cheers m8, looks like I took the bait dammit...

>>39801186
its literally every thread dammit

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>>39801151
>pull ups
>adduction of elbows, depression of shoulders, lats, rear delts and biceps
>I want to know how to grow anterior delts natty like mas t with a good diet
>pull ups

Please never reply to me again.

Anyone who's lurked this General for a couple of years, have any of you ever asked mas t how did his delts get huge natty when all he did was fix his diet and presto, androgen receptor rich delts.

>>39801200
>Please never reply to me again.
no
> how did his delts get huge natty
working out more simple as that or steriods which makes it abundantly easy

does no one do pullups here ? WTF

Discord invites where?

>>39801200
Mast usually talks about diet>routine. I don't know that he's ever mentioned it.

If I had to guess ohp + lateral raises.

>>39801200
no because nobody actually believes his natty pics

we just don't bring it up much because there's no point, he's never gonna admit it. it's part of his trolling.

>>39801219
I told you to stop posting

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>>39801219
>natty
>use steroids to be natty

So you don't believe him is what your ultimately saying?
Because everyone here knows that a natty with some bullshit muscle and fitness magazine routine that has 500 sets hitting anterior delts won't do jack shit unless 500mg of test e is running through your system.

Anyone useful here? Or are those days long long long gone?

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anyone get any results on sarms

>>39801251
i always assumed when some one says delts they meant rear deltoid. which benefits greatly from pullups, OHP, dips.

anterior delts on the other hand are easy as shit to build i see no reason why steriods would be involved with building those

>>39801285
no one gives a shit about rear delts lol

1 front delts
2 side delts

POWER GAP
3 rear delts

>>39801200
Jesus.

OHP 3x5 with 60-70-80% of your max

Clean and press 1x5 warmup then moving up 5-10 lbs each time until form failure

Dumbbell flies extending out from your body 3x10 with 50-60-70% of your max

Weighted pull ups 3x10 as much as you can do

Those are all my delt exercises but even some lat work hits delts, so just get a routine that smashes that shit until you have DOMs and you'll be fine.

Now stop posting about "muh routine." and make one yourself.

>>39801251
Gone are the days of yore. Not a lot of big guys (uuuu) still post regularly. Mast and Bimbo are still around, bit they aren't big on advice.

>>39801321
Exactly. You'll accidentally get nice rear delts doing rows and lat work.

>>39801321
thank you CTR for fixing my mind set, i assumed wrongly

Anyone know if the military test for roids (UK)

I miss doing cycles but don't want to get busted and lose out on my career, not doing it for sports or anything, just personal use

>>39800387
>dat resolution

This is why I lurk on a TV screen.

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>>39800925
Lower body fat made my shoulders look bigger. When you lose fat, your muscles will emerge and looker bigger

see muh natty cutting progress. Diet and volume matters. Nothing else

I always do lateral raises do begin with. It's the best exercise for shoulders imo. I vary with OHP, front raised with dumbbells and with barbell. I also include 1 rear delt exercise during my shoulder routine(bent over lateral is very nice for this)

>>39801435
Couldn't say. My sister's while unit did. She used Rugby make fun of them for having coordinated cycles. Pct time meant everyone was playing.

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I also love this one over here. One of my favorites

INSANE PUMP for shoulders

>>39801542
i never understood what the fk that exercise is supposed to train and it feels fkn weird and i dont feel any muscles contracting at all.

i also heard it kills your tendons

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my army waiver got passed now my recruiter is telling I am probably leave beginning of feb.
I need to recover from my 16 week test p cycle ASAP. does 2 weeks of hcg 500 iu eod then Torem 120/90/60/60/30 Clomid 100/50/50/25 sound good? i kinda thought i wasn't going to get in so i planned on cruising till i died

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>>39801238
>we just don't bring it up much because there's no point, he's never gonna admit it. it's part of his trolling.
There is no admitting faggot. I can't help it my pictures make you insecure af and you just made yourself believe that was not natty in order to stay alive. The fact you don't believe me only results in making my dick harder because your giving me compliments this way. I thank you

>>39801582
Some people swear by certain exercises. Some work for you, some don't. I like this one a lot because it really give my shoulders a good pump and also trains my traps.

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>>39801582
good for delts and traps. Kills my wrists though

>>39801590
The standard pct would be suitable.

Nolva: 40/40/20/20 mg. Maybe add another a week with 10 mg if you feel like you need it.

You can try and add HCG, but i don't know nothing about that. Some people say you will recover faster.

>>39801684
fuck brother no nolva on me\
all i have is a shit load of pharma clomid and some research torem that i have not tried myself. and of course hcg

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>>39801582
I'm not a big fan of it either. Super awkward range of motion for me, might be because I'm short though.

Pic related is my GOAT for traps. masT is spot on with lat raises being greatest exercise for delts tho, that's what I meant by "dumbbell flies away from you" but I'm too stupid to remember lat raises in the morning. Just lift heavy shit, take good pictures from flattering angles, and pray your genetics pan out.

>>39801697
Doesn't clomid have nasty side effects like fucking with your eyes and shit.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7710399
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ddr.20253/abstract

>>39801703
I only like the exercise with the curled barbell, not with a straight one.

how do you guys buy shit from online and just trust the bloodwork/reviews of people saying its legit and not expect to get at least a little cat piss or (unkown) variable in your juice. i agree 200mg a week is healthy and itd be great but...HOW can you even think that for the remainder of you entire life that you have to stick a needle in your arm some online vendor wont sell you at least a teeny bit of cat piss.. or HPV/aids. otherwise it sounds great.
>inb4 order raws that require trusting a chinese merchant and brewing it yourself

>>39796569
>about 12 weeks, seems about right?
Yep sounds right. I extended it to 16 weeks since I was on the low end of the dosing scale (5-10 mg while some people do 12 weeks at 20mg ED) and because I was loving the cardio gains.

Also to answer your sides question, it definitely raised my body temperature, sweating, and had a stimulant like effect (possibly potentiated by dosing with coffee) but I was able to sleep just fine since I took it in the morning followed by LISS cardio.

But it was excellent for getting me in that "focused" state of mind for whatever I did after cardio (work, usually). Just wouldn't want to dose it prior to work without doing cardio to use up all that energy, if that makes sense.

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>>39801321
Lmao Fuck off

masTs delta were bever natty that's the secret

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> start reading through the code for UPS's internal employee site
> vulnerable as fuck
> to actually edit the database I'll probably have to be within range though

Can't bring computers in [or at least can't bring them back out] so I'll have to sneak a proxy server in there to access from home.

Happy Hanukkah, thank God it's over.

Black slave wants to buy protein snacks for the homeless. I told her jars of peanut butter. Any better ideas?

>>39801736
so dont do it

brb enjoying my delts

god i fucking love HAVING FUCKING ROID DELTS AND TRAPS so much.

>>39801736
>in your arm

>>39801821
does hcg bring your ferility balls back to life all the time? my wife wants kids.

>>39799151
Wth are scalp exercises? Do you get someone to massage your scalp or do you just move your eyebrows up and down?

Also, where do minoxidil and needling fit on this scale of yours?

>>39801771
Lie about being natty in the past, while not being natty anymore. You get my point


>>39801893
Keto is as effective as minoxidil

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9669136

I remember that JM was years on fina + duta without results.

If you really fucked i would use: keto + fina + minox. I have seen extreme good results with that combination.

>>39801893
wiggling ears backwards, relax them, raise eyebrows upwards, relax, repeat, create pump for good effect

i dont use minox, i cant rank it, but otherwise.

Not shampooing your god damn hair every single day
Scalp exercises
Micro needling
scalp massages
keto shampoo
PSO
SP
Castor oil (topical)

so quick question

why doesn't everyone cut on psmf? what am i missing?

>>39801954
>Keto is as effective as minoxidil
Nice, thanks masT. Will look into getting 2% from some online pharmacy because most of the studies I'm reading (including the one you posted) use that strength.

Not really that fucked, just mirin the fucking thickness you have so want to optimize. Haven't run masT and don't go over 500mg test so fingers crossed I don't have to mess with fina or minox since keto looks like the easiest option.

>>39801957
>Not shampooing your god damn hair every single day
Underrated. I should also probably cut my hair. I think I am getting traction alopecia from tying my hair back.

You still use the 1.5mm derma stamp everywhere or do you use a single needle? I am looking into getting an automated machine because apparently it doesn't case as much bleeding/pain.

Do you use numbing cream?

>>39801980
Can make you feel like shit and requires willpower

>>39801980
>cutting without dnp
lmao

>>39801991
Here's something about 1% keto, seems to work as good as 2%

http://www.hairloss-reversible.com/discus/messages/1/4608.html

hundred male volunteers with mild to moderate dandruff and somewhat oily scalp, were using, in a double-blind fashion, either a 1% Nizoral shampoo or a 1% zinc pyrithione shampoo, 2-3 times a week for 6 months.

Analysis of the different parameters set up in the study shows that the hair diameter gradually increased with Nizoral use (+8.46%) over a 6 month period, whereas the diameter showed a trend to decrease with zinc pyrithione use over the same period (-2.28%). The sebum excretion rate was reduced with Nizoral (-6.54%) while it increased with zinc pyrithione (+8.2%) over the same period of time. The number of hair shed over a 24-hour period was reduced by 16.46% with Nizoral and 6.02% with zinc pyrithione after 6 months. Finally, the percentage hairs in anagen phase increased by 6.4% and 8.4% respectively during the study time.

Keto + PSO + SAW + BIOTIN + skull exercises works really good for me like Moosey is stating.

>>39801980
>>39801995
>willpower
I think this is the big one. Most of the people here cut with DNP so they don't have to think or try.
MasT has a point. Some people have no willpower.

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>>39801957
>>39802018
I put some PSO in my hair last night cause why not and my shit was hella soft this morning. Very oily so I had to wash it out but I may start doing this once a week.

>>3980206
>shit was soft

sure you didn’t drink it? :^)

>>39802134
is for
>>39802066

multitasking is a bitch.

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>>39802031
And remember that don't even look nearly shredded while doing dnp.

If you use it, use it to get fucking shredded like never before. Not for going from 18% to 16%. But the same goes with steroids for that matter. I would never understand it, but at least it's not my body, kek.

Same people going to the gym without getting results.

>but not everyone wants to get muscle and shredss
LMAO

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masT how can I get as big as you bb srs. And also what is pso you guys keep mentioning for the hair I have nizoral prescription shampoo.

>>39801980
Depends on your goals.

I drop weight easy. Like 2500 calories and extra cardio is like 5 lbs week.

>>39802002
>>39801995
>>39802031
>implying i am not doing both
apparently i am going to drop from 15% to 10% bf in 2 weeks with my calculations. i am only eating 1g/lbm in protein, no fats no carbs.

If 500mg test per week puts me at 4600 dl/l, what should my cruise dose be?

>>39802218
something like 75/100mg

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>>39800998
i don't know whats worse. the hideous fucking deformations on your face or your autistic shitposting day in and day out

pic related: consider

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>>39802134
>>39802139
Well I usually drink it. Like two teaspoons a day. But my hair was feeling dry probably because of the weather change so I poured a little in my hand and ran it all through my hair.

https://www.baldtruthtalk.com/threads/24834-My-8-week-result-with-Minoxidil-Derma-Roller-Saw-Palmetto-and-Nizoral

I don't understand how people still can be bald these days

>>39802170
Keep lifting and eating. Never stop dreaming. Hold on that picture that you have in you mind. That you want you want to achieve but still keep changing when you almost achieved it

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>>39802236
This

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>>39802236
>guys im 12% bf but i have a double chin, wtf
>guys im 12% bf and have no abs, fucking genetics right

>>39802018
masT I reckon I'll do a little experiment here in honor of the "grow more hair" theme of this thread

I received a $50 Amazon giftcard from a relative for Christmas, and have absolutely fucking nothing to buy, and I'm bored

post links to the exact products you use (on Amazon) or their closest substitutes, and I'll buy them all, and put your hair regrowth/reinforcement formula to the test, since I was already cucked by genetics before starting roids and had a disappearing hairline at 20, and a bald spot appearing on my crown, I should be a perfect candidate.

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>>39802286
I legit see some of the skinniest guys ever on /cbt/, pale edition is bringing out the basement dwellers and they ask why at 4% body fat 6 ft tall and 100 lbs they don't have abs.

It's because you don't have any muscle to poke through your skin. Start lifting weights and eating ffs.

It's either that or yeah they're just fat and lying to themselves, but the skinniest of dyels have that issue too m80.

What do i ask le doctor to check for in my blood test?
Total test
Free test
Liver values
Blood pressure
Rbc count
Estrogen

Anything else?

>all i give a shit about is bodybuilding at this point
>just kind of lethargic towards everything else. other stuff is alright but just boring and pointless
>lift, eat, track macros, inject, etc..
>bored out of my mind at all other times just waiting for results, wish i could just hibernate between lifting and eating

>>39802528
only get tested by a doc if you're natty, your insurance provider is privy to your medical records and won't cover shit if they discover you're using illegal substances, happened to an old trip. save yourself the trouble and get privately tested

looks good otherwise though

>>39802392
you would have more succes with scalp exercises and scalp massaging and micro needling, than with pso or saw.

My saw: https://www.amazon.de/Swanson-Sägepalme-Prostata-Männer-Gesundheit-Beta-Sitosterol-Phytosterole/dp/B00272QPHQ/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1482790411&sr=8-6&keywords=saw+palmetto


PSO : https://www.amazon.de/Pumpkin-seed-oil-1000-Softgels/dp/B0048F5QZM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482790470&sr=8-1&keywords=pumpkin+seed+oil

Keto :https://www.amazon.de/Ketozolin-2-Shampoo-120-ml/dp/B00EMGLQS8/ref=sr_1_sc_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1482790486&sr=8-3-spell&keywords=keto+shampoo

>>39802624
true cocoon mode

>>39795825
What do you do if girls look at you as if you're a chad because you're 6'2" handsome 220lbs 12% BF, but you're also a virgin and are scared to expose your faults so you just pretend you're not interested? I always go home alone because I don't want to risk being laughed at for performing potentially poorly?

>>39802638
>scalp exercises
just flexing of the scalp to improve bloodflow yeah?

Massaging I do when I shampoo/condition, usually try to get in a couple or few minutes of it

what's micro needling? Unfamiliar. Is that something that those derma-roller things do?

>>39802624
read books, learn a masculine skill, take hikes. Literally tons of things you can do to further yourself outside of lifting.

>>39802660
yeah bloodflow.

raise eyebrows, relax, wiggle ears backwards (some have to learn how to do it), relax, raise eyebrows, relax, wiggle ears backwards, relax, repeat.

yes its derma rolling.
Its rather for regrowth tho, while the others are for maintenance.

also if you do everything i do, it will still take months/years to see solid progress.
It took years to lose your hair, it will take years to get em back.
First results comes after like 3-4 months.

>>39802625
Im not american

>>39796569
>i just mailed china, well see what i get
According to Cap there are no Chinese manufacturers anymore

>>39802679
good for you

>>39802679
good luck getting bloods

>>39802694
Yeah, docs over here actually help you out if you're roiding

>>39802677
>it will take years to get em back
I'm more or less just doing it to prove or disprove masT (and your) methods. An experiment I suppose. I really don't care about balding, even with a 'full' head of hair I keep my head shaved anyway, it's just easier to maintain and it's a good look for me

But all of the above (biotin, PSO, SAW, keto) are beneficial in other ways as well, so it can't hurt to have them I suppose. Should probably be running saw anyway for prostate health and I'm not.

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> supervisor at UPS keeps editing my timecard; now I have proof
> this guy used to be the big boss but was demoted for editing timecards
> everybody at work hates him, makes fun of him on a regular basis
> he'll wink at you while saying "help me out, bro" to get people to do shit for him on other supervisor's clocks
> regardless, now I know how to hack into UPS networks and do as I please

I never wanted this. I just wanted to code and experiment. But skills don't matter in this society; not normally. So fuck all those above me; if they're vulnerable to someone below them then let them burn.

>>39802018

Or you could just embrace the baldness and get big. If you look anything like this pic ( >>39797196 ), girls will line up to suck your dick regardless if you're bald.

The desire to maintain hair when you're going to lose it regardless stems from a nostalgia or yearning for the young love fantasy that doesn't actually exist.

>>39802797
hack as in placing a program inside the pc, or actually using a programming language?

also the fk is your goal?

>>39802705
What's that suppose to mean?

>>39802842
that he wishes you luck in getting bloods

>>39802659
>I always go home alone because I don't want to risk being laughed at

Literally making women laugh is the best way to fuck them.

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>>39802797
are you ever going to settle down and save the aryan race, or have you given up?

what's this UPS nonsense, if even half the shit you post is true, you're clearly above average IQ. how are you content with ~12k/yr?

>>39802797
>at UPS

Big UPS, mah nigguh!

>>39802912
I mean, I could get them in bed but I choose not to because I don't want to expose the fact that I'm an incompetent virgin and risk embarrassing myself.

>>39802953
this is only the second most beta thing i've read all week, believe it or not

>>39802953

>tfw im the same
Its like, i hate being attractive and jacked and a virgin, but at the same time just knowing i have the might to get laid is sometimes enough for me.
Like when i pull a stacey in the club, i just drop her after some time and dont give a fuck anymore because i know i could have get laid if i wanted to.