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>>39723157
lol wrong post i was refering to ohhh fucking well

>2nd for no reason

what is your long term plan? will you ever go off roids completely? just ride it out til you die at 35?

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>>39723220
when i finnaly have the money ill OD on 4grams of testosterone daily for as long as i can handle it.

so making it to 35 will not be possible for me since ill be making massive gains unlike you pussy faggot.

Whelp in other news bimbos ex said someone threatened to hit her on her blog (noni wont post it - find it yourself fuckers). Now accepting bets on whether bimbo is still secretly cracking despite being off his tren-train to hell.

>>39723220
Plan?
>cruise for TRT until the end
>blast here and there
>continue cruising
>go to doctor when done getting it over the internet
>get on pharma gear for the rest of my life
>be a grizzly swole old man
>probably fuck a trap or two
>go balls deep on women 20+ years younger
>would never marry again

>>39723239
Considering test is less than 80 cents a gram putting you at a whopping $3.20 a week i think you can start the process now

>>39723264
gotta pay off my car so this summer i begin. i know its cheap as shit to brew your own not surprised to see those prices.

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what the fuck is this bump, same cheek as i usually inject in

>>39723276
I didn't realize you said per day and not per week

that's a really strange and uncomfortable way to kill yourself but to each their own I guess

>>39723354
Unmetabolised depot, sterile abscess, scar tissue.

Take your pick.

What can I expect from 1g of creatine a day? I don't want to get too big.

>>39723362
it'd bascily result into a heart attack due to the massive amounts of blood being produced due to the high amounts of testostrone in the system.

i was jokeing ofc. but id be pretty neat to see your self add inches to your muscles daily until your heart gives out entirely.

>>39723354
>>39723370
i dont feel it or notice it unless i flex my ass
it doesnt hurt other when i massage it, but its more like a "bruise" or doms, not a problem it was just a "woah" feeling when i felt it and saw it today

>>39723393
put a heat pack on it for like 30 minutes. See if that helps.

Foam roll the fucker out and roll the dice.

when did yolo stop tripping here

>>39723393

Sounds like an abscess then. Get a professional to drain it so it doesn't get infected. Confess to being into weird sex stuff if you're in a country where talking to a doctor about joose is a bad idea.

can you increase volume on hgh, or is that only with roids

>>39723379
Watch out, you could wreck your body's natty creatine production for life

>>39723243
Brings a whole new meaning to "abused the fuck out of my ex last night it was dope"

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>be reading sperm wars
>apparently women's bodies actively promote sperm warfare, they actually promote having two or more men's inseminate in them to battle it out so she gets the best genes
>hmm that sounds like it would make sense
>think back to a month ago
>fuck asian girl raw, she confirms all of my ideologies about women afterward, they are indeed looking for the alpha male and a provider etc, admits to cheating on ex and whatnot, of course she didn't agree she was logically or consciously thinking of doing this, she just agreed it would seem right and that her and other females she knew's actions would fall in line with it
>lel yeah thought so
>texts me a week later or so, telling me she thinks she might be pregnant, missed her period for a while, but says its probably not mine, she fucked some other guy she's actually dating "she really liked" and he came in her
>oh shit OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT at there even being a possibility it's mine, i pulled out, but precum can do it and i might have been a little too late iirc
>weeks go by
>ask her how everything is
>no response
inb4 some dude raises my kid brehs

>>39723379
funny its supposed to increase test to DHT conversion and lower myostatin production.

so your never gonna be natty after that transformation to rich piano has utterly rekt your body.

what the fuck

subhuman animal ""mother"" to me just now : "im surprised none of them (specialists + rheumatologist) accused you of steroids or bulemia and anorexia"

ok

that is sensible

how the fuck can i be fucking both. FUCKING MAKES ME FUCKING RAGE. I AM LITERALLY SHAKING IN FUCKING ANGER I JUST WALKED AWAY SPEECHLESS. SO FUCKING RETARDED HOLY SHIT.

do i look too roided up

or do i look too much like an auchwitz survivor

or are you a fat fucking bitch that calls everyone with discipline "anorexic"
>sees me weighing out 356g of grilled chicken 100g oats and some random vegetables to stuff my ass with
>"anon you're anorexic alright. that's all im gonna say"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

literally her favorite fucking word throughout the years. drives me fucking insane how this animal can be so fucking mentally insane

HOW THE FUCK DO ANOREXIC BULEMICS LOOK LIKE THEY APPARENTLY USE FUCKING STEROIDS. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. LITERALLY FUCKING TUMBLR FAT ACCEPTANCE IN REAL LIFE. OMFG

>>39723245
>>would never marry again
Iktf.
Being married was one of the dumbest things I every did. I'm glad it didn't turn out worse.

>>39723459
sperm wars the clone wars

>>39723264

Is it really that cheap? I always had the impression you'd be paying a couple k a cycle

>>39723470
At least your hematocrit was ok

>>39723487
tfw low blood pressure

lol

88/60 on 250 test

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how do I get more fat on the upper nose/brow ridge/eyes area like pic related on the left

it seems like only older guys have it for some reason (even though they're supposed to have less Test and more E2) so I don't think just doing more test will help it.

>>39723486
No, it's 100 or so for a full cycle if you buy premad and don't get anything weird like dhb and basically nothing if you homebrew. Less than the cost of protein powder either way, I don't know why more people aren't on

>>39723486
hahahahahahaa

even if you blast the fuck out of tren and shit a couple k is enough for like 2 years or more

>>39723498
take estrogen

>>39723486
if you compare the prices to the prohomones and natty T boosters out there its easily 1/4th the price on average when you factor in the gains are 3-5 times more than what you would get with the alternative.

that and since you wont need to take other supplements it makes that 1/4th cost cheaper.

if you brewed your own then it can vary greatly from stupid cheap to slightly less of what your paying for premade bottles.

ofc the compound is the biggest factor, test only and your looking at above equivalency. varires greatly from country to country and source to source

>>39723508
>>39723515

Now that I think about it, this impression was based on absolutely nothing but this so pretty cool, is this known pretty much universally? I live in nz so the market would be tiny. Still gonna wait till Ive got atleast 5 years of natty lifting under the belt though.

>>39723558
2 yrs is plenty unless your above 30yrs old or a gay faggot. either way hop on when you find a source and can afford it.

>>39723558
steroids themselves are cheap as shit, its those in combination with pct, orals, ai, caber, syringes, needles, and sanitary wipes that can make it get expensive, at least for a broke college student like myself lol

>>39723473
I'm married right now.
This year is fucking terrible.

>she's addicted to raiding in wow
>isn't interested in sex

>>39723245
>fuck a trap or two
desu i've considered getting head from them before
i've had two now hmu on social media that you wouldnt even tell were traps
but as soon as i found out they were traps boner wuz kil

>>39723604
>pct, ai, orals, syringes, needles, and sanitary wipes

dank meme

>>39723420
wouldnt an abscess be from an infection, or causing an infection, its not warm to the touch, no red around the area as you can see in the picture

could it be a knot or scar tissue? when i used to pin that glute like 4-5 times a week last cycle

>>39723604
Same here, 3 years into my architecture degree. Always figured I'd wait until I'm around 29 and rolling to get into it. But yeah ill be going ham on that end of things after my mum got hep c while doing hard drugs lel

>>39723578

25 atm and coming up to 2 years of lifting but I'm ex obese with a solid amount of bf left. Figure id get lean and wait for these gainz to stall first.

>>39723659
fuck that shit

I imagine the peak of my youth to be mid to late twenties, on tren, and molly at a music festival popping viagra and fucking the hottest girls there until my dick is too pained to any longer

>>39723243
Stop this

Will using test deepen my voice? Has it deepened any of yours? I'm wondering if it only works on trannies

will cruising on like 175mg a week cause infertility? im 23 and really dont wont to go back to my groggy low t natty self

>>39723831
yeah it will. mine got a lot deeper on 500 test e a week

>>39723617
give her 25mg of proviron for breakfast the days you want her horny, have fun

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this book is something
just came to another realization
The most successful evolutionary strategies involve tricking other men into raising your kids via a cheating sloot.

I've decided despite it being seemingly morally wrong to some, I'm going to make it a point to purposely cuck as many guys as possible, and get as many girls to cheat with me as possible to have my kids and get other men to raise them to pass my genes on, and be the best evolutionary success i can be, considering i can only financially support so many myself, and i cant exactly pull a ghengis khan, call it wrong or immoral, i'm going to call it winning

also could never explain it till now, but now it makes perfect sense why i and so many others are so innately fond of cheating porn

>>39723831
deepened mine

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>>39723525
Good advice will report back

In all seriousness though does anyone know? It must be androgenic in some way (it only happens on men) and yet for some reason it only happens to older men with lower T.

People literally get surgery to reverse these effects (yes they get surgery to look more beta lol) so it must be some kind of hormonal change related to age. Possibly related to DHT?

Help me be aesthetis brahz pls

>>39723853
possibly yes

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>>39724108

>>39723642
Abscesses can be sterile, basically just a node full of oil that didn't get absorbed properly or tissue that got inflamed when you injected it.

>>39723853
It may cause temporary infertility but it's not guaranteed. Sperm and testosterone production are linked but not exactly the same so it's possible to still be fertile even when blasting grams of test and tren. Only way to know for sure is to get tested.

>>39724114

That is within the top 10 weirdest requests I've heard on this board

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>>39723470
>swollen thinks he's disciplined

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>>39724363
In what way? People post here all the time asking if roids will make them more confident or at least give them FACE/HEIGHT/FRAME.

I am just curious about a specific change related to hormones. It's not even a unique question everyone knows that hormones can mess with fat distribution.

Other guys I posted look like shit cuz they're old af but it can happen to a degree on younger guys too. Notice the fat around his eyes give him a masculine 'hooded' appearance.

>>39724452
Pleased w/ this

>>39724452
wat

>>39724454
Plastic surgery is the way to go.

Messing with hormones just to add some fat to your face (not even sure if this is possible without changing your body also) is not bright

>>39724454
more like a down syndrome appearance

>>39724454
Im really trying to tell if this is b8

if so, good job, have me fooled


In other news
Just smacked my head on the wall doing handstand pushups and I feel like I may be developing a headache
ill miss u guys

>>39723459

I used to get really happy when girls would mire me but after looking up the profiles of the last few who've given me all the signs (I'm not autistic so it's obvious when a girl wants me) and then I see they are in a LTR.

I'd rather be celibate than to fuck around with loose women. I need to fuck though, so I see escorts. I actually respect hookers whereas regular old girls that fuck lots of guys sre disgusting to me. I could never live with or not be grossed out by a woman who fucks numerous men concurrently. Yeah, i realize that eliminates like 90% of women out there. But if I never meet and end up with a woman with solid morals who can set aside her biological instincts to be a whore. I mean, men are actually attracted to sexually developed 16 year old girls, and we repress this in order to live in a stable and non-perverted society, so why shouldn't we expect women to repress their urges to have multiple men's semen up inside them?

It's disgusting, )honestly. I'm not saying I'm above some dirty immoral sex with a woman in a relationship, that shit turns me on when I'm on a high dose of androgens, but I'm not fuckig dumb enough to try and raise a family or share a home with a whore.

>>39723384
I think most of the size would be glycogen and blood volume. You'd put on mad muscle too, but you'd be ready to pop.

>>39723422

What the fuck are you even asking? Volume of what? Try to actually ask a sensical question.

>>39723470

Your mom sounds like a self esteem destroying negative nancy just like my mom is but as a grown ass man maybe should solve that problem by moving out, or drink a gallon of kerosene and swallow a lit match

>>39724618
well i was planning on moving out 3 months ago except my face got fucking swollen

and now i am either getting this resolved before january 15th-ish and moving out to my stupid ass dorm, or killing myself if i cant fix my face

and yes that's all she tries to do. try to put me down to make her fat ass self feel better.

she blames my muscle mass on steroid usage, and my leanness/lack of fat to anorexia and bulemia. but i can also "eat whatever i want" and not gain fat because im "lucky" lol. all at the same time

>>39723604
AI Serms and blood pressure meds is like $120 for a 10 week test cycle and that's using pharma Eastern European stuff from Pfizer

If you use reseerch liquids maybe half that

Pins and wipes etc are free from a needle exchange

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>>39724618
Yeah it really sucks because I know I want to Raise some of my kids, but I sure as hell am not planning on ever doing a monogamous LTR so I'm not quite sure what my solution to that will be yet

>>39724618
Wait, you'll fuck escorts, but not actual women who are "loose" because of your morals? But you will when you're not disgusted with them? Why would a woman with similar values you have now even begin to consider a guy like you? You're literally what you despise.

women haters are silly, especially all the red pill masterrace bullshit I've been reading lately. It's like a total inability to understand the opposite sex or the inability to want to, because we're a lot more like them than you think and that scares you that there isn't a beacon of purity in the world you can hold onto, since you can't be it. lol.

>>39724773
>It's like a total inability to understand the opposite sex or the inability to want to

no it's like how fat bitches call supermodels anorexic.

they hate women because they are too fat beta and autistic to attract a female so they hate on them to make it look like they are forever alone by choice.

>>39724812
I've seen your pics and Im far better looking than you. Did you not read the part where I said I get mired by girls in relationships all the time?

>>39724773
You really need me to explain to you how the qualities in men that are valued and looked up to are disgusting in women and make them whores?

You're just rationalizing why your gf or wife is a whore. Dude I am never calling a loose ass bitch my partner. You're retarded if you don't understand why I respect a hooker who fucks lots of men for money over a non hooker who fucks lots of men because she can't control her biological urge. I'm not a fat ugly guy who can't get girls but nice try. I can't stand being around and spending time with dumb cunts like you obviously see no problem dating. Women that fuck a lot of men are disgusting. I can't believe you actually think there's nothing wrong with women sleeping around. You don't know that a guy that can fuck lots of girls is a stud and a girl that fucks a lot of men is a whore? A woman can just open her legs and get fucked. It actually takes skill and effort on the guys part. What part of basic man and woman Venus mars bullshit 101 did you miss?

Your typical ms tinder slut is fucking gross man. I just see the disgusting ugly dudes these girls fuck and I know my dick ain't going anywhere near that. I'm way better of a catch than most of you average bros so why would I stick my cock inside what you've been around? Gross. I'm a fuckin Prince compared to most of you.

>>39724874
lol

>>39724874
Is this masT without trip? Although I do agree with what you've said.

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>>39724812

I mean, that's a very real possibility, too.

>>39724874

>Im far better looking than you.

That claim's gonna require a pic sonny. Let's see that prince face of yours.

"Waaaaah I believe all the things society force feeds down my throat. You're all gross and I'm not gross because I'm delusional. I'm a MAN who can't comprehend that guys can be disgusting whores too and there's really no such thing as a stud."

Your salty lonely tears are delicious.

How bout we talk about steroids guys?

>>39725024
Not since alex and his autism came little buddy.

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>>39724773
Gotta say I agree with this

As much as I post seemingly "redpill" shit, it's important to understand that's just how women are. That's reality and you can be a salty little bitch about, or appreciate women for what they are. Like life, life is cruel and unfair, but if you let it get you down you're being a little bitch and you most likely won't get anywhere, it's the people that see the world for what it is, but choose to embrace the beautiful aspects of it that go places. As much as i bitch about women, I can at least realize I fucking love them, I love fucking them, appreciating their beauty, teasing them, talking to them, just being around feminine energy. On top of that saying I hate all women because they aren't what I want them to be is selfish, and hypocritical because men are just as bad. If you want to be mad at anyone, be mad at the stupid fucking churches and government pushing monogamy

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>>39725024
fav cycle alb?

I've done test/dbol, test/sdrol, and test/tren/dbol
Kinda want to experiment with some new stuff, maybe something for joint health thats not expensive as shit like var

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>>39725109
also it would be a bulking cycle

just realized i had the censored version saved wtf
damn toonami
how is it okay to show pussy bulge but not underboob and tummy

>>39725024
Lol you should've seen the past 10 threads

>>39724512
I mean you do realize this is a steroids forum lol

People here discuss how to alter appearance with hormones all the time

>>39724974
I will never reveal my identity online. I am just likely better looking than most of you based on what you folks tend to find attractive in men around here. Everything I've said is true. Just because you have relegated yourself to being in relationships with cum dumpsters doesn't mean every guy would accept that. I'm not some bitch that needs to be around ppl or in a relationship to not be lonely. I used to have a fsggot friend that thought like you. I'm perfectly fine with being single if I haven't met a girl with solid morals. I'm the dude that fucks your girl, bro. Just because I have a different opinion than you doesn't make me pathetic.

Notice how you started out with the personal insults and attacks when I stated my feelings? Why do you feel personally attacked and has to retaliate when I tell you that I don't date gutter sluts?

Do you not understand how much better it is to pay to fuck an escort, who I can pick and choose one who turns me on, and then not have to feel obligated to hang out or be in a relationship with?

Of course if I met a fuck buddy who was hot and not a dumb skank and has a brain I'd be down with hanging out... and that doesn't mean she's a loose whore. But for example, the Asian chick that the other poster described who fucked a couple guys and got preggo-- that shit is rank. I can't imagine raising a family with a dumbass whore like that.

It's nuanced. Not black and white. Of course you probably can't comprehend that based on how offensive and offended you get when someone expresses a different opjnion.

After my next cycle I will be so beyond you cucks you'll bow to me.

M'lady.

>>39725506
Yes, and I'm telling him that using hormones for slight facial change is illogical. Get a botox surgery and you're done

>>39725592
the dude wants to get fatty eyelids

That's mentally illness territory beyond what is addressed by sterons

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>>39725544

Didn't read but what's your hangup about posting your face/identity online? I plaster my shit on and the amount of dick pics I have floating around is insane. You're likely not important enough for anyone to give a fuck about what you do online. And if say one day you blow up like Tom hardy, all the faggy shit you did online becomes some hilarious anecdotes.

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>tfw stuck with half eastern asian half euro genetics
>tfw got that shitty asian cheek/cheekbone genetic

Must be nice not having hallowed cheeks till 7% bodyfat, probably might not even get it at that.

Oh well, everyone loves a male nice, round face with absolutely no definition when looked on at the side just like on the left, but with worse bone structure! def gonna rake in all the sluts in tinder and the club!

just kill me i dont even know why i bother

>>39725592
>>39725663
Calm the autism I was literally just curious as to why there's a dimorphic trait that appears predominantly in older men despite them having less testosterone.

I thought it could be something strange like MPB which is also a dimorphic trait that for some reason primarily occurs in older men.

Inb4 so u want to be bald kek

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>>39725724
kek thats great that Omars on there considering he's literally the only natty, it's a compliment to be compared to them

thinking you need to look good to get girls
just

>>39725751
if i had to guess

I believe somewhere I've read more wrinkling in that area is due to distress, which could be what youre seeing mistaking for more fat

go through a lifetime of stress and emotional crisises, you'll get there

>>39725761

>not wanting to look good because it makes you feel good, makes people treat you better, gives higher self esteem, confidence and a feeling of well being

Yeah I can get fat ugly slags even if I were 20% bf, wore a tracksuit and was bald so I guess that's ok mate.

This general has gone to such shit

>>39725826
Thank alex mate.

>>39725808
i mean yeah that first part is true, and thats the main reason I even lift, dress, and groom myself properly but if you're worried about insignificant things out of your control that's just silly m8, no girl is looking at you saying "ew he doesn't have fat between his eyes, HAHA ID NEVER FUCK HIM"
learn to talk to girls pussy

>>39725782
Well all men have a bit more fat on the brow ridge/eyes area so it's not just wrinkles lol. Maybe I just described it shittily but I'm sure you've noticed the difference between men and women's eyes and brows. A lot is bone but fat distribution is important too.

It could be some non-T related hormone change related to aging. Like how visceral fat is more common in men and yet it's increase due to aging is caused by less growth hormone (not more T lol).

>>39725826
Where did everyone go??? I remember the days of chem, brick, FL, Jerry, sloot, farmer, alb, dhb, jj, trendick, and so many more

>>39725884
fuck off cunt, you're part of the problem.

>>39725893
o ya
cunt too
i literally just tried to talk about steroids asshat
and i blogpost like every other trip ever
eat shit and die

>>39725929
1% of your posts relate to roids. That does not make you valuable.

>>39725884
I'm around.

I just listen to podcasts all day rather than monitor/post on this jam anymore.

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>>39725943
for the millionth time
1. this place has always been blogpost central with the occasional roid posts trickling in, for this reason
2. the same shit gets talked about over, and OVER, not too many subjects that haven't been covered countless times for anyone who's been here a half decent amount of time, which i have been, despite having just made my trip recently
In fact, I know thats why no one answered my roid related question earlier, because we're all sick of repeating ourselves, and the information can easily be found in two seconds of googling, funny enough, the only reason i asked is purely because people like you keep bitching though lol

If there's some fucking steroid related shit you want to talk about bring it up yourself shithead, don't expect me to entertain you, I don't see you bringing up anything interesting, just bitching and complaining about how its everyone elses fault the thread is shit

Give me a stack suggestion motherfucker! Discuss the everlasting effects on myonuclei and muscle growth with me like we were earlier
Tell me your opinion on how you think roids effect will effect epigenetics and the effects this would have on our kids

Fuck you fuckhead
Have some more anime

>>39726016
i see why

Is the enlarged heart thing just an overblown media meme? It's the only thing from stopping me from trying anything.

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just saw the most pathetic shit on fb

>girl who cheated on bf w me posts on fb about a movie night
>8 dudes volunteer, like 40 like the status, one of which i know is a huge playa
>her bf posts a pic of aquafina on the status
>girl: "?"
>Bf: these guys thirsty, I thought we were doing the movie night when im off wed or fri
>Girl: no doing it thurs at my house :)
>notice bf deletes water bottle pic
>bf: well im working
>girl: *insert bf name* sucks :P

Fucking KEK

I bet he bitched at her for surrounding herself with guys trying to fuck while away from him, and she got mad and was like "omg no their just friends! Dont be so jealous and insecure!" and then proceeds to cheat like she was going to anyway, but now with the rationalization that hes an insecure jealous bitch lel

>>39726164

dont do cardio while on steroids, good way to enlarge your heart and get killed.

High amounts of HGH also does it.

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>>39726164
as far as i know kind of
might come as a result from long term usage

I wouldn't be too worried about it, but at the same time wouldn't be doing high as fuck dosage for long periods of time. prob not bad in moderation like most things

>>39726189
Lel, nothing is less attractive than mate guarding

What a fucking chode.

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>>39726199
lel don't listen to this guy, cardio is very important to do on roids obviously

>>39726189
>>39726207
i dont get it.
when your gf is a sloot and you get mad at her for being one or point it out, then you are a bitch?

>>39726096
Anime would be better if it was real.

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>>39726207
I mean on one hand i get it of course, I've been there, but what I'm coming to learn now is, if shes even putting you in the situation you have to guard her, its a battle you will never win, you may as well end it right there.

If I ever get in a monogamous relationship again, fat chance, the second I suspect shit, the second she tries to hang out with guys that "are just friends honey! I promise! I turned them down and friendzoned them already!" just kek, im not fighting for her, insta dump on the spot, nothing she can say to change it.

If you do nothing and try to be the secure guy that doesn't give a fuck, she cheats because "you dont care enough" or just simply because shes out with a bunch of guys that want to fuck her, if you try and guard against it she calls you insecure and finds that as even more a reason to cheat.

yeah and that is why im never doing mono ltrs again

>>39726266
I have a very similar outlook. Ever since I started gear though I have started to want children. I assume you want chillen too, what do you propose for people like us?

>>39726223
thats what im saying breh

it's completely reasonable to the average man, but she sees it as you being a bitch, and will use that to cheat on you, which then really does make you a bitch.

So it's not really being a bitch in one sense, because its reasonable when you think monogamy works, but then it is being a bitch because you need to realize being mad and guarding her is only going to make things worse

>>39726207
>>39726223

I assume mate gaurding means telling your gf 'lol don't hang out with dudes'?

Not very familiar with this lingo you sluthate or whatever website you crawled out of guys come from.

That said, yeah, it's unattractive. It shows your insecure, and worried she will cheat.

Instead of ""mate gaurding""" the SMART thing to do would simply be DONT date girls that make you feel like you need to mate gaurd.

Duh?

PS: If she makes you feel like you need to mate guard, she is cheating on you, duh

>>39725884

Apparently my autism drove them away, except that none of the trips have a problem with me

It's the anons that get triggered, two of them, one of them posts about how he can't get laid.

>>39725761

How do you know omar is a natty? Go to /r/steroids, plenty of people that look like they never lifted a day in their lives on gear. YOu can't know for sure someone is a natty.

Only way to know if someone is on gear is if they admit or reach a size that just isn't possible natty.

>>39725724

your self esteem and whining about your genetics is holding you back not your lack of hallowed cheeks lmfao

>>39724874

>. It actually takes skill and effort on the guys part.

Delusional virgin detected.

It's requires so much "effort" because you're a fucking autistic obsessed with "gonial angles".

>>39726283
seriously even if this is true, what are you supposed to do? Allowing her to fuck other men?

I thinkt THAT makes you much more of a little bitch

>>39726317

>what are you supposed to do

Look for girls that don't have "male friends" lamo?

Read

>Instead of ""mate gaurding""" the SMART thing to do would simply be DONT date girls that make you feel like you need to mate gaurd.

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Good evening gentlemen.

>>39723157
>be me
>do roids after breakup
>get hyuuuge
>go live abroad
>appendix explodes day 3
>lose all gains within a week
>quit lifting for good

tfw got new gf but dick still dont work

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>>39726264
baka
i've literally dreamt of living an exciting action packed anime life wit pure waifus since child.

the day they invent VR anime life i may never come out except only for food and to piss and shit

>>39726279
I was talking about this same thing earlier

I have no idea desu, we're kind of fucked. I'm kind of hoping theres some sort of AI waifu i can raise children with in the future, i would find an egg donor and make test tube babies born in something else rather than a woman

Then theres the single dad paying child support route, where you have to deal with half custody, child support, having your children raised by a whore and whatnot which sounds like a huge fucking pain in the ass.

Then theres the polygamy route, but I wouldn't want a daughter if i had any raised by or around some whore that fucks all kinds of guys

So thats where i'm at.

>>39726357
Same guy, same mindset. I see poly as the only way that could possibly work, but I also wouldn't want a daughter (there is some data that suggests you can push towards male so that it isn't 50/50 chance) in that situation.

There was a guy on the Black Phillip show that Patrice interviewed and he had a poly relationship but I can't remember if he had any chillen.

>>39726345
Livin the dream desu

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>>39726306
Fair enough, I suppose he could be on the juice, but he seems to be a truthful character and there's definitely plenty of people that have reached his level or better natty, and he hangs out with mark bell all the time for example who openly admits to doing roids
>>39726317
You're missing the point, as Alex said, you're fucked either way, guard her or not, you're a bitch, you're a bitch for being in a relationshit with a hoe in the first place. The only solution is to not be in a relationship w a hoe, which means either being single or finding the rare as fuck 1% that won't cheat. >>39726344
What is up my soon to be fellow Mars roider bro
>>39726409
Yeah it really does look like the only realistic option unfortunately, but what can you do

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>tfw ran out of anti prolactin and my tren sides bloat gyno got bad after 2 days

just ate 10x 100mg vitamin b6 now, and 10 more tomorrow.

>implying nerve damage isn't just a meme

>>39725929
Im here sometimes
I just smoke too much and have nothing of worth to say

>>39726016
whatever happened to chem breh, last i heard he was in jail or some shit because he cant stay out of trouble, last wild antics i heard of was him breaking someones window on lsd
>>39726615
you still on cycle getting joocy brah? hows life?

Holy shit u nerds overthink women

If you just lift, bee urself and tell them what to do it's fine

This morning I told my roommate how shitty she is as a person and 8 hours later she brought me hella Korean food and ate my cum.

Stop thinking about it.

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>>39726656
I don't know nothin'.

>>39726658
are you srs.
you told her she is a shitty perseon, and she fucks you 8 hours later.

kek

>>39726681
The ancient Native proverb,spoken in its entire wisdom.

Just swinging by from /plg/ to remind you all that ur cheaters and that >>39726189 has great taste in women and that >>39726201 has great taste in cars.

>>39726702
Poutine is good if you can make it from scratch.

>>39726707

Naw dog poutine needs to be bought at four in the morning.

>>39726691
It's really not that impressive. I've ended fights by facefucking her.

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Hi /frauds/.

I live in Canada and I believe I have low test. I recently got tested and got 16 nmol/l for test. After doing some research, I've found that to be the average test levels for a 75 year old man, according to a study done in 1996. I am in my mid 20's. I've been told to expect denial. I'm supposed to be at the peak of my manhood, life shouldn't be like this.

I'm 5'11, 180 lbs. I've been working out serious casual (serious casual being concerned with diet, proper form > all, 5x5 SS etc) for the ~6 years, with stretches off. I got extremely tired of retaining fat on my hips, thighs, chest and ass no matter what I did, so I did ~2 years on a serious deficit. Got to about 160-165 lbs, but the fat still remained. We're talking serious fat here, like kys mode fat.

I have abnormally high levels of progesterone and I'm going to try to use that as a way to get something going with test, but I'm not counting on it. Would you recommend that I take Testosterone Enenthate to bring my levels up? I'm not looking to go further than that, I'm not interested in "cycles". I want a consistent boost in energy and mood, and a better life. I feel consistently horrible in the morning, I'm fatigued all day, and I have very low motivation. I'm not looking to abuse this substance, I'm looking to get on the level that I know more masculine males are at.

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>>39726716
now THAT is impressive
story time?
srsly would love to pull this off some time lel
>>39726702
hey dem r both me :) thanks bro, only post the hottest ass and waifus, will have to get more car stuff.

I miss the dude who posted hot sloots alongside different foods, I think that was the best poster that frequented here
>>39726658
No bimbo don't do it! just don't fall for the monogamy trap! idc how alpha you are, they will cheat!

>>39726818
You typed a way unecessary amount of words to just ask "what is trt?"
Because I'm super cool, I'll answer: google it.

Ideally, a 150-250mg/week cruise would suit you fine and all of your made up issues would be solved with a mild panacea that is testosterone.

The root of your insecurities and frail masculinity will persist but now it'll reveal itself in much more distressing ways and through means which you'll have to confront eventually in the future because you refuse to now.

Best of luck, Fatso.

>>39726877
>my ex came out in February as a lesbian
>told her okay lame go away now
>three days later texts me about a book I gave her
>it's a 7 dollar book, an obvious excuse to reach out. I tell her to fuck off
>it's 10 pm and I'm drunk with the mates
>show them the texts
>she texts me again just then
>I get a ride home and respond now that I'm alone
>berate her for being fucking stupid all the time and being a flake
>I loathe flakes
>she's just being her weird old self
>tell her I'm done or she can come over and get facefucked

An hour later I'm at her place after she picked me up, and then drove us back to her place.
>>39726877
Not alpha. Just mean enough and big enough to get what I want.

>>39726818
A healthy natural male produces anywhere from 5-9mg of test per day or week or something. I forget. Omar Isuf says exactly how much a normal male makes in his recent video about test boosters

Does a person's height make any difference when it comes to dosage? I'm 5'7 manlet

>>39726935
Nope, dosages are the same. 10cc of air into your vein.

Does mas test still post here? I fell for the meme and bought the keto shampoo but it says to only apply once every 3 to 4 days. Should I use it everyday wtf do I do I'm retarded plz help

>>39726887
I know what TRT is autism-o. Don't you think that was the original goal of my hormone testing? My research has taken me to message boards where fucktards all talk about the same thing. Problem is, they talk about it only as part of a juice regimen, and only a temporary measure. I've been feeling pretty shitty my entire life, and until recently I haven't done anything because I did what everyone told me to do and sucked it up.

I was hoping someone here would have some perspective on whether supplementing test will uplift you from physical cuck-dom. The mental thing and the insecurities? That's a bag of worms I'm intimately familiar with, so let me worry about that, my good beefcake.

>>39726973
your hair is going to fall out if you use it everyday.

use it once a week

>>39726992

Not bashing you, but how do you know this?

>>39726984
Lol

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>>39726567
Spaaaaaacceeeeee

>>39727007
how am i supposed to answer that question.

if you dont believe me then go ahead and use it everyday, see what happens.
you can do what you want

Hi /frauds/,

New lurker here, long time shitposter on /fit/ but never on these threads. I have an honest question here:

What constitute a low-test body? I have wide-ass hips, my beard will never be complete and when I was skinnyfat I used to have more boobs than arms. I actually went for some exams and the doc told me my hormone levels were normal? Should I find a different doctor?

>>39727080
its okay, you dont need the "im low test" excuse to do steroids, just do it, we wont judge you.

>>39727051

As in what makes you come to the conclusion that if I use it everyday that my hair will fall out? How do you know this?

>>39727093
>just do it, we wont judge you.
lel, but I was honestly wondering. I've been obsessing over that for years now
>Be proud 6'8
>Hips nearly as wide as shoulders
>Shoulder narrow too
Just kill me famalam

>>39727104
posts in forums

>>39727131
> 6'8"
yeah you better roid

>>39726818
>fat at 160lbs

you didnt do shit in those 6 years, fgt

>>39727080
some docs will do that when it actually is low because its relative and different ones have different opinions apparently, which is bs
you should have asked for the exact number of free test to know for sure, sounds to me like theres a possibility, or you could also just be a fat fuck

>>39726984
It can certainly help, dont expect it to solve all your problems though. I don't think i was coming from low test, but it definitely increased confidence and made me feel better about myself as a whole, and has had a lasting effect even to long after being off, if you're low test I definitely fucking recommend at least doing trt, hell I suggest you doing a basic 500 test cycle even more though desu, like that really barely does anything in one sense, like when people talk roids they imagine a HUGE noticable night and day difference, a 500 test cycle will not do this, there will be a noticeable difference, but mostly just to you, nothing that cant be excused as diet/training/supplements though, and if you're coming from low test you'll feel fucking amazing in comparison. though dont run it for too long, run a base level of trt at all times, then cycles of 500 occasionally

>>39723354
ROIDING FOR THIS!~??!?!?!?! BWHAHAWHAAHWAWHWHAWH

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got a 50$ gift card in the mail
hmmm
should i spend it on
>uber to go fuck girls without cars
>put towards roids
>mdma+club
>lsd
>creatine and fish oil
>anything else im not thinking of

would just do roids, but i dont even have a gym membership so itll be a few months before i can even start that

>>39726306
Alex is this
>>39725544
You bb? It was way too long and try hard for me to read through and care about, you're losing your touch if it is.

>>39726917
Nah you're just using a low self esteem busted whore who is prlly out of shape. How comes people on this site have insane Ely huge egos despite being bott9m of the barrel autistic pricks

>>39727589
bimbo is literally a porn star lmao

>>39727606
he's a gay pornstar with a 3/10 ugly spic gf, >>39727589 is 100% right about everything he said even though he didn't know bimbo

>>39727606
>doing gay porn for a,living

What a surefire way to end d up I the gutter LOL Jesus Christ. Hiv, stds, drugs, shitty people. Will die young prlly

>>39727618
This is what roiding for aesthetics gets you.

Even mast does gay4pay.

>>39727618
it's not 2002 anymore, even if yeah wtf at least do straight shit lmao

>>39727589
>>39727606
>>39727612
>>39727618
>>39727626
>>39727633
Weird

>>39727080
You could be on the low end of normal but still within range so to speak

What would be a good regimen for taking clomid to increase natural test?

Did a sarm cycle for it's ligament healing and cutting effects, and noticing bad low t sides 4 weeks in. 3 days off it now. I have clomid and am thinking about using it, cause low t is unbearable.

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>>39727504

no

>losing your touch

No

>collecting numbers like crazy

Feels good man. This 7/10 girlie was mirrin my HEIGHT FACE FRAME, was in the hottub, and I winked at her and she blushed and I just grabbed her number

Didn't have my phone, so I made her go find paper, find a pen, write it down for me.

She would've dragged herself across hot coals if the paper and pen was there too.

2nd day in a row.

Everything bimbo said is right if you guys just stop caring so much about girls girls will like you more kek.

(half) you guys care so much about girls you roid for them

Such desperation and you wonder why you can't get laid.

Also, I suspect like half of you think you need a MasT level body to get women's affection? No. No, no no.

So you don't even try with women because you're so insecure with your body.

And that's why you get so enraged when you see a skinny fat getting girls like me, you hate it.

Stop it, stop being desperate betas, women r ez.

I'll start having girlies write down their numbers, just to trigger you, instead of putting it in my phone

I suspect that's why I get so much anon poster hate, being dyel, and fucking girls they can only stare at

ALso,

>banging that loli from yesterday next friday night

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>>39727718

>Be 6'4" auschwitz lanklet
>Finally make slow steady gains
>Adds up to a lot over few years on and off
>Excess of 40lbs
>Still lanklet, but no longer skeletor
>Move to country area
>No gym let alone shop close by


Putting strength and totals aside I was gonna do roids at some point anyway, is roids + dumb bells enough to get bigger in the mean time until I go back to a gym area?

>>39727718
you get hate because you're offtopic, you could brag about being dyel and fucking girls in any other thread, hell, i get laid and I'm dyel, yet I never post here, I just read to learn about sterons, you're diluting the conversation way more than anyone else, which lowers the value of the time I spend reading this thread, time is my most valuable resource, you can understand why me or other people might get pissed, hell, you're also wasting your time, why not learn new things instead of being le epic baiter?

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>>39727747
>why is fraud not on topic?

How many years are newfriends who should be lurking going to ask this question? When does the influx stop?

>>39727747

>baiting

Except I don't bait anyone, just come to talk to trips, and by nature of not being a roidcell like half the anon posters, they get baitied simply if I mention a girl blogposting about day to day life.

I mention work, they get triggered, because they have no job.

The only way I could avoid triggering the anon posters that shitpost at me is if I was unemployed, a virgin, and on gear to look dyel.

And uh, no thanks?

>why not learn new things

Well I know lots about roids from the thread, and from the anon posters whining, I know lots about how bad being a 25 year old unemployed male virgin fucks your phsyche

So that's something too

to the point where a dyel talking about girls idly, not bragging, makes you ree?

/r/ that copypasta about me and catpiss pls

>>39727764
hey, it's like my first post in /fraud/ in a long time. there's been quite a few "out of topic lords" there, but alex is definitely one of the worst, you've been pretty alright so far for a natty too, I'm just curious about endocrinology and related

>>39727718
>that guy who's proud of fucking 2s

>>39727764
it's pretty sad that you're the one posting about this as a complete fucking retarded newbie to this thread.

it wasn't always like this. just because you helped /fraud/ go down this way and that's all you've ever seen doesn't mean it was.

>>39727789
>that dude who gets 7s but has a 2 fetish

>>39727782
I have over 160 tindies new match I have yet to talk to, I have a pretty okay job, that doesn't pay like crazy but still more than average and I'm passionate about it, yet I think your blogposting is annoying, why would you blog in a steron thread, you don't even do sterons, I fail to comprehend :/

>>39727802
Compulsory need to fit in. Being a pariah, he sees /fraud/ as the (not incorrectly) misfit clubhouse of /fit/. It's fucking retarded, but it's not without basis.

ATTENTION /FRAUD/
ATTENTION /FRAUD/

all trip/namefags are ruining this thread
reply to this post with "Get cancer, tripfags" to save /fraud/ from a slow downward spiral into mediocrity. also you're mom might die if you don't reply.

>>39727811
be quiet

>>39727747

>being dyel

Just hop on test + tren + superdrol + hgh + peptides, and you'll fit right in.


I see people posting pics like >>39723354

And I read

>inject in

ANd I cross my fucking finger and hope he is talking about a flu shot or something

If you're on steroids, at least look like you lift, and that's respectable.

I got an excuse for being dyel, new and natty.

What is the excuse anon? >>39723354

Why do you look like you just got rescued from a concentration camp?

>tfw people forget to LIFT and take roids, think just taking roids alone is gonna do something

...

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>>39727718
baka numbers aint shit brah that dont mean anything cmon, have gotten ridiculous amounts of numbers from 10s and have only fucked like a quarter of them. I would literally sit out for hours collecting phone numbers a few days a week for like months, would easily collect like 20 at a time lel

Most girls are flakey as fuck in my experience

>be few days ago
>qt cashier
>stuck in bumfuck nowhere w no vehicle so have to take every oppurtunity i get
>stand in regular line w just one monster waiting behind people doing shopping for the month next to an express lane lol
>get to her
>hi blah blah blah, you're kinda cute haha, write your number down on the receipt, do it discreet its our secret
>get it
>ez pz
>im a 5'7 skinny manlet and i literally dont even lift

>>39727747
This

Alex is an ugly cock sucker dyel. I really doubt anyone above 6/10'mire him.
Cognitive dissonance mixed with autism the trip

>>39727828
I don't know why alex, but your formatting fucking triggers me. You seem like a smart (on business yo) lad, why do you think that is?

>>39727828
>retarded fucking newbie posting about his fucking retarded newbie standards

S T O P

>>39727843
he can craft "okay" sentences, doesn't make him particularly smart tho, kid needs a load of finnish philosophy, as in, silence isn't uncomfortable, breaking the silence for the sake of breaking it is.

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>>39727784
Np dood. It's been like this for a really long time though. 90% of the steroid questions are just b8 so no one bothers anymore for the most part unless it's a trip asking. People shitpost here just like they do everywhere else on 4chan pretending it was good some time but it never was. They just like to bitch.

>>39727799

>newbie to this thread

Yeah okay keep talking dude, I'm sure your an epic oldfag from the good old dayz xddd

>>39727875
It was never great, but the good stuff came up more regularly, everywhere on 4chan, there'd be that one nugget of knowledge/new stuff that'd allow you to research/google and get into something interesting/alternative.

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>>39727811
lol learn to use filters and stfu dipshit.

>>39727809
I mean... you definitely make a point for both arguments.

>>39727885
There still is, you just have to sift through an equal or greater amount of shit. You always had to. You just don't remember the shit from years ago, just the good stuff. There's still great threads and shit being posted in /fit/, double bicep was funny, masT's "EVERY DAY IS DYEL DAY" was funny, and there's actually some decent talk in here once in a blue moon. Stop complaining and just do what we've always done.

>>39727902
I'm autistic as fuck, I write down when I find new interesting stuff, it's rarer, be it because the level of conversation lowered or because I know more stuff now I can't say, but it's way less regular

>>39727902
To be fair though we've also always had a fair amount of complaining bitches Lel

But yeah no it's dead with all the lovely characters and knowledgable trips that used to inhabit here

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>>39727977
In what world do you live in where /fit/ ever had more than 1 noteworthy post or thread a day?

>>39728053
The highlight of fraud's day, and /fit/ in general is masT posting. It's sad, but at least we have him.

>>39728067
oh wow I agree I love le epic trole too :-)

I'm 12 btw

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How harsh is winny on the liver?

>>39728280
it's not the worst comp but i'd still recommend running 500mg tudca with it ed

>>39723354
You should be a new trip. Swollen Glands in the Ass Faggot.

>>39726658
That's literally abuse dude

>>39728067

Steroid General when it was in full swing, used to have ~15 or so named trips who did steroids and knew their shit. There was probably about 10 or so people on top of that who used to name themselves "xxmg + xxmg blast" or "xxmg cruise" as well. Then maybe half the posts where anons actually asking about steroids. I'd easily say 90% of the posts in those threads were on topic, even if half of those were disagreeing - but it was all pretty well constructive. Hell, it helped me convert from rugby to bodybuilding.

It only went to shit end of last year really after the board sources and the PNW crew all disappeared. Considering they started the off topic posting but still actually contributed, when the contributors go away it just turns into this mess.

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>>39728393

Is tor the only way to get roids?

>>39728496
Nobody here uses dnm for roids.

>>39728280

You're probably not going to notice it. I'd recommend n-acetyl-cysteine in the morning on an empty stomach though, regardless if you're on or off orals.

Couple with MSM, choline and tudca for very heavy doses of harsh orals and you'll never have an issue with your liver.

>>39727698

What SARM did you use? Seems odd you'd notice those effects so soon, are you certain you're not just feeling it from the lack of the SARM/placebo?

I'd probably use something like 25mg Clomid ED, but couple it with 20mg Nolvadex as well. You'll ensure bouncing back.

>>39728496
Search on or ask on sst I wouldnt use tor

>>39728534
What dose of MSM are you running? 5g made me sick.

>>39728550
Diff guy I had left over osta I used at 50mg/day to finish it off while on test, fixed up my nagging tendons, I noticed tendons didnt bother me no more about 9 days in.

>>39728559

20mg for a week, then ~2.5mg ED after that. Couple with Vitamin C.

You will always be at least a little sickly if you use it for the first time. When it kills off all the nasties and parasites in your gut for the first time it's a rough ride. That's a lot of corpses just rotting away, let alone whatever else it pulls off your inner lining that hasn't been dislodged by anything else.

Also, see Hive now have methyltren? Very fucking keen to give that a shot, brilliantly priced too. Steroid Abusing Kangaroo would be happy to see it as well, I know he's been searching longer than I jave

>>39728562
Ostarine, really? I might give it a look if it can fix those sort of issues. I used GW501516 for a while there, it made cardio a breeze, but I can't say I've looked into any others.

>>39728474
I guess man, but people here bitch about trips like Alex ruining this gen when he only even popped up like, 3 months ago tops and then run out people who actually roid and are somewhat knowledgable and entertaining like crusader. I don't get it. I'm sure the constant roiding troll questions gets old, too.

idk the entire gen just seems like a shitshow from all angles, and it's kind of a circle of problems.

Shit conversation and questions > No one wants to answer them > knowledgable people stop posting > blog posting and people still willing to post fills the whole thing > people bitch > people ask more shit questions to troll new trips > shit conversation.

PLG probably has better discussions at this point... I'd start lurking it more if they weren't so fucking boring.

>>39728580
I have heard people using methyltren as a PWO, would the pinnable version of this still be useful as a PWO?
Also It's at 2mg/mL aren't dosages like 500mcg? You would need to pin with a slin pin for any kind of accuracy.

>>39728607
>>39728580
Also Alb, do you have a throwaway. I live in Australia too mayne and I would like to chat.

>>39727828
Alex you said none of the trips have a problem with you, yet in just the last day I've seen Brick and Bimbo both talk shit on you. This carries more weight than your little autistic natty new trip buddies who look like shit and don't rood, because they're both jacked as fuck. Other shitty natty trips like you liking each other proves nothing, except that you are so pathetic that you're willing to look like a fucking idiot in order to get a little bit of attention from the cool kids. You will never be a cool kid, you're a fucking autistic loser.

>>39728617
Couldn't agree more.
>Deport alex
>Deport alex
>Deport alex

>>39728617
Who's the other autistic jacked as fuck natty?

>>39723470
>Literally shaking

Bleed into a bucket and kys yourselve faggot

>>39728632
Was referring to Brick and Bimbo carrying more weight on opinions of Alex's autistic Faggotry than his circle of new natty autist trips who like him, because Brick and Bimbo are jacked as fuck. When it comes to the new natty trips you don't count because you lift, have a great physique, and actually add insightful shit to the conversation based on your own experiences those new fuckers don't, they just want attention at the cool kids table. You're here because you don't roid and started tripping as natT after triggering masT so hard because he knows you have a good body without roiding. Most of the. Itching about new natty trips doesn't apply to you at all. You don't. Wes to play mother hen to the others because you are as far from their level as the roiders in this general, if not even further since you reached your physique natty.

>>39728649
You don't need to play mother hen*

I can't type for shit tonight.

>>39728649
aw thanks dood. That's the nicest thing anyone's said to me today besides L O N D O N.

On that note I'm going to bed. Gnight aussies and insomniacs, don't shitpost too hard.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11887173/r

reminder bimbo is next on the list to leave if these retard natties who for some reason think they belong here don't fuck off

>>39728580
Cheers duder, always appreciate your knowledge.

I just ran out of their sdrol and apparently they won't be restocking it for a while so I'll be picking up some of their mtren next week. I've only ever ran it once before but it was in a blend with halo and tren base so it was pretty hard to judge just how effective it was. Excited to give it a go standalone.

>>39728649
>someone else is also using the cool kid analogy that i used

because it's fucking true

>>39728607

Nah, the methylated form has different properties to make it a viable preworkout. Tren base/suspension/no ester is a good preworkout though, maybe look into that.

Slin pins or bust desu, I wouldn't risk anything other than that for something so delicately dosed.

>>39728612

Albfag

2012 at the mail that starts with g.

I don't check super often so it might be a very slow response

>>39728732

Anytime friend.

I'm thinking just 250mg test and maybe 500-750mcg of mtren to see how it plays, I have to say I'm very excited by that prospect.

>>39728771
iight man, I'll send you something classically aussie

>>39728771
havent seen u in years
hope everything's good

>>39728888
Jerrbears mirin

>>39728898
i dont really browse /fraud/, so not aware of ur memes guys (besides the trap with pink hair that keeps getting their pics spammed?). just saw albfag on front page.

i miss quad too

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>turning 20 next week
>kind of sad because teenage years are gone
>kind of happy because i made a deal with myself; wait until you're 20 until you start gear (wanted to jump on after a few months research at 16)

is it really a game changer?

already got a nurse, bodybuilding friends/family (used/using) and most likely family endo sorted, so it's going to be done properly

>>39728954
>is it really a game changer?
what are your lifts?

Intermediate, but I've been doing high rep ranges last few months.

>>39728954
>needing any of that shit to do it "properly"

>>39728998
post actual numbers

>tfw never reached/surpassed 2 plate bench until i started gear
>had less testosterone than a 100 year old so i have an excuse
feels bad man

>>39729009
how's those face gains comin along

any good news?

thank god I dont live in US every girl is a whore and you guys now are accepting and rationalizing it "cuz evolutionary books" lol cucks

>>39729002
You're right, regular blood tests with a doctor who knows I'm on gear is a bit over kill, I could post my bloods on reddit right? And when he does me a script for TRT so I can go overseas with my gear, I guess that's alright but it wouldn't be them much harder to smuggle them in my luggage... Also I could use /sst/ for sources instead of the people I know because dodgy stuff brewed in China is just as good Pharma, right?

Properly =/= Efficiently

>>39729020
fuck off permavirgin fat autist

>>39729015
went to a rheumatologist yesterday. she ordered like 9 more blood tests and said she is going to discuss with my ENT specialist when the results come back to see what the next step is. which is either getting a sialograph of my glands (inject a contrast and then cat scan), or physical scoping of my ducts

>>39729009
bench 80kg for 10
squat 140kg for 5
deadlift 160kg for 3

>>39728898

I'm still alive, on the outside at leasf

>>39729025
holy fucking autism

telling a doctor = making the insurance companies be able to fuck you over for life, all for the great benefit of paying 5x as much for blood work and then having a monkey in a lab coat read a piece of paper to you saying that your cholesterol is fucked. or that your rbc is high. if meathead gym rats can do it you can too.

>when he does me a script for TRT
that's different than outright telling him you are "abusing" steroids

>Also I could use /sst/ for sources instead of the people I know
yeah you could since it will be probably 1/5 the cost and higher quality and not bunk shit
>dodgy stuff brewed in china
confirmed retard
>wanting to use pharma gear
for trt with a prescription that's understandable but there is no reason to pay literally like 5x as much for 0 benefit. and also pharma shit is also faked just as often or more often than reputed UGL stuff.

just was reading how a certain guy on reddit had HPLC done on his """pharma""" primo from what is supposedly a reputed international seller of pharma shit, and it was completely bunk.

>>39729051
tfw alive on inside but dead on outside

>>39726283
nah she just a whore

>>39729033
Do the research and then tell the doctor what you want. I have never gone into a medical situation or surgery (I've been in many) without knowing the statistics of each and every option. Why a certain medication is more effective or more likely to cause cancer, why a certain procedure has a higher chance of recurrence rate than another.

The stage you are in now, you have the option to research and to determine what YOU think is the best course of action based on that research. If your specialist disagrees with what your research says ask WHY they want to go down that path.

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/

>>39729059
I was about to tell you're an idiot for thinking legit pharmaceuticals are faked. Shits fucked yo!

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterfeit_medications
>In 2012, tainted steroids killed 11 people near Boston and sickened another 100.

>>39729084
they are completely correct and what they are saying matches what i have read though

i do that too when the need arises, reading about everything.

in this case you literally cannot proceed without the stuff they are asking for though. because it is impossible to tell what's causing it without this stuff. the bloodwork just rules out major diseases and viruses and shit, and if they all comes back negative then you have to move on to biopsies and then either scoping of the ducts or cat scans.

>>39729092
iight little buddy, I just want to see you get better is all.

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>>39729089
>The whole reason I paid good money for pharma Primob was to protect my health as much as possible.

cucked

>>39728586
Yeah, LGD never did that for me, though LGD is vastly superior to stack with test for gains, but I never really ran LGD high, just 10mg, not say like 25mg (another experiment for the future).

Mind you it wasnt severe like tendonitis, but definitely nagging soreness when lifting in some places.

>>39729114
What compounds did the amps actually contain?

>>39729194
that guys testing only shows the presence and purity or lack thereof for a specific compound

that way the testing is cheap, otherwise it gets expensive

>>39729209
Yeah Im gonna use him when I buy my raws

So I've got a line on sust for my first blast.

Recommended?

I have AI and PCT sorted, I'm in Aus and it's going to run me $140 a vial.

Anyone run sust their first time? Should I go with it or look into test-e for a babies first bulk?

I've never used before, but I'm 189cm (6'2) 85kg (187lb) after my cut and I wanna bulk on gear this time. I've gone up to 100kg (220) naturally on a bulk before but want to see what kind of gains I would get with gear.

>>39729257
>sust
no

>>39729263
Fair enough

>>39729209
Its just going to average out to a virtual ester length.

>>39729263
I'm guessing because it would be a better idea to take different esters separately so I can gauge the effects separately? Or is test just test and the reason you're saying no have to do with price?

It's my first time looking at prices here in Australia and this is coming from a mate. It's what he uses so I thought I'd give it a try.

If you think it's a better idea to just get some test-e then I'll probably see if he can get some of that.

Main reason I was going sust is he has it on hand.

>>39729334
There is a place where bees live that sells roids in aus mate. Going with sust suggests that you haven't read enough yet.

What's the good stuff for face gains?

semichinlet and cheekbonelet asking

>>39729334
it has esters of test that would be pinned every day, e3-4d, and a long ass one that doesn't need to be pinned often

you would need to pin every day to not have fluctuating like fuck blood levels

it gives you every single downside of every single ester length with 0 of the upsides

>>39729354
plastic surgery

>>39729354
Holy fuck, the insecurity of you people knows no bounds.
>Help a blondlette out guys

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>>39729334
Sustanon vs Test E E3.5D schedule, Test E has more stable levels on the same injection schedule and thus higher troughs (lows), you can get the same peaks from using more Test E (which also gives you much higher troughs).

All four compounds are still test, just different esters, so effectively its the same as a virtual/custom ester length thats shorter than enanthate.

The only thing that terrifies me about roiding is potentially developing gyno

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>>39729367
For now I'm only getting a nose job

>>39729368
Help me pleaseee AHHHHHHhhh I can't stAAAND LIVING Anymoooooore NOT BEING 8 FEET tall and haVING A grEEk god's FACEEEEEE

>>39729387
DHT and HGH would be your only chance of fixing it without sugery but expect long term treatment until you start seeing your chin slightly come in.

that and 10K IU of vitamin d3 daily for bone density.

>>39729391
thanks pal!

>>39729375
>>39729364
Cheers for that, I'll look into trying to getting test-e then.

>>39729350
I haven't read a single thing about sourcing.

I've mainly been reading up on AI/PCT because that seems to be the hardest part to manage.

It's not like I'm going to be jumping into this tomorrow, I just thought I'd come here for some quick input. I used to lurk here a fair bit about a year-or-so ago when I was living in China, didn't really take the idea of using gear seriously until now.

Anyway, I'm gonna go back to lurking. Keep up the good work guys, always enjoy these threads.

>>39729434
I would get ai from a kiwk who juices, much less expensive and legit from my experience.

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>tfw have everything to pin
>accept the courage

I dont mind getting shots but to have to stick a needle in my ass myself is too much. Wish I had a gym bro to pin my ass

>>39729456
I was in your position too man. My friend called me one day out of the blue and started talking to me about his relationship. In the end we both decided that logical actions and reasoning were the best in every situation. Cut the emotions out of it, you've come this far to becoming enhanced - the only thing stopping you the the emotions.

Throw this on, and pin mate.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdBoybKnzZw

Has anyone done both dhb and trest (not together mind you)?

>>39729386
Anti-estrogen

>>39729456
i dont get it, its a small ass needle how can you be scared of that.

also do quads, its so much easier than ass

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Anyone feel like answering some questions that have been asked a million times?

Is the only reason to cycle is being in a situation where you expect to be tested? B&C or just cruising seems like a better option for someone that isn't in their 20s anymore. Any real bad sides from b&c or life-long cruise? Seems like if you manage your shit well the worst side is complicating international travel.

Secondly, I suspect I'm low test but haven't gotten bloods done yet. If my numbers come back low would you recommend I look for a doctor that could be friendlier towards TRT treatment or just straight up buy from a source?

There's some "anti-aging" doctors near me that list increased muscle mass as one of the benefits to their hormonal treatments on their web site so I think they might be the kind I'm looking for.

And finally, my goal is get to or near my "natty limit" (is that shit even real) and maintain that for as long as humanly possible. I've already accepted that somewhere down the line I'm gonna have to cruise on at least a trt dosage when I get older but at the age of 28 should I be looking to get enhanced now?

>>39729692
>Is the only reason to cycle is being in a situation where you expect to be tested? B&C or just cruising seems like a better option for someone that isn't in their 20s anymore. Any real bad sides from b&c or life-long cruise? Seems like if you manage your shit well the worst side is complicating international travel.

this is pretty much correct

>If my numbers come back low would you recommend I look for a doctor that could be friendlier towards TRT treatment or just straight up buy from a source?

it might be a pain in the ass if your doctors want regular blood work to make sure you health values are in range. also those "anti aging clinics" are usually extremely expensive. like literally over 10x the price of cruising, but that's just what i have seen in my experience. scripts are best mainly if you want to fly or cross borders with test

>There's some "anti-aging" doctors near me that list increased muscle mass as one of the benefits to their hormonal treatments on their web site so I think they might be the kind I'm looking for.
those are the kind that are expensive as fuck but if you want a script might as well try.

>And finally, my goal is get to or near my "natty limit" (is that shit even real) and maintain that for as long as humanly possible. I've already accepted that somewhere down the line I'm gonna have to cruise on at least a trt dosage when I get older but at the age of 28 should I be looking to get enhanced now?
i wouldnt advise roiding with the mindset that you want to look natty. lol. but if you want to start age isn't ever really a factor except if you're like underaged or a manlet looking to get some more height, but at 28 that's not relevant anyway

could i get any benefit if i did 100mg test E daily instead of 700mg weekly?

>>39729732
what are an half life

i always heard you could take a vial with syringes in it in your carry on. Even if you have an rx its not like they call to verify your script. That said i wouldnt do it. Just shoot a bunch of test u into your ass and your good to go for a month.

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Hello i'm new and i'd like a begginer starting guide or something like that... plz help?

low effort troll 0/10

>>39729789
>>39729789
step 1 is drop below 20% bf

>>39729789
http://pastebin.com/bkXs0khR

fuck off new faggot.

tell us your lifts

>>39729801
fat pinch says i'm 18bf... Anyway, what's the correlation between fat and juice, i just want to get bigger, not especially leaner. Not now.

>>39727832

>fucked a quarter of them

I find younger ones like 16-18 are less likely to flake/ignore you, because it's still exciting, being hit on by guys, instead of routine.

Also more attractve, obejectivley.

>>39727833

u mad + post face you """prince"""

>>39727857

never claimed to be smart

My buisness advice is all valid, most important thing is it's something you are intrested in, or you won't really want to master it and learn those all important details.

The key is to know more and be more intrested in your field than the guy next to you.

Still, my retardation and how I was able to start one (two if you count escrap) is proof ANYONE CAN DO IT.


>>39727843

I find that the spacing makes shit more readable, people seem to hate it, , I always much prefer reading spaced out posts.

>>39728649

>brick and bimbo

Brick never said anything, bimbo is the only trip to talk shit to me, but how can you be mad at bimbo?

I don't mind. Bimbo is such an interesting character and cool guy you just can't ever be mad,

And he never said anything bad, he just said he thought I wanted to roid. I dunno, maybe I will someday. That's hardly talking shit, how thin skinned can you be?

<3 bimbo

>>39729020

>every girl is a whore
>meanwhile I collected a number yesterday from this girl that's in the robotics club, all girl school,
>talking to me trying to convince me to read more books, autistically talking about books
>not even ugly, 7/10
>twirling her hair and stuttering the whole time I was talking to her

Also you guys tell me how a girl that was twirrling her hair and stuterring like a mad man and blushing when I touch her is gonna flake or something? OK.

You fucking people only meet girls at da club and on tinder, and you whine that all girls are sluts? Top kek.

I'm gonna bang that stacy from the other day just because I have a real hard on for her (this fucking look in her eyes, man, fuck), than want to date robotics girl.

>>39729815
BP 80*3
ATG SQUAT 80*10
SQUAT 110*3
DL 150*6

>fuck 1rm
>fuck lbs.

>>39729850
looks bretty good m8y hop the juice and tell us your progress.

>>39729847
brick did i specifically remember it too
>>39729861
>oh dude ur 18% bf, go roid and bulk

this is why natties should not give fucking advice on steroids

>>39729850
HO, btw i'm a dwarf.
171cm for 75 kilograam

>>39729711
Everyone who says that cycling is worthless is just a lazy piece of shit in the first place. I have proven that you can keep gains with cycling. The only reason is stay on now is because of the PCT acne i always got even with 2 cycles of accutane

>muhh permanent effect of accutane
MY ASS

You want to roid to look fucking natty? YOU FUCKING PIECE OF UTTER SHITT

>>39729878
i didnt say it's worthless to cycle i just said there is not really a good reason not to blast and cruise if he wants

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>>39729847
TL:DR

you write so much shit i woudlnt be surprised if you wherent a drunk /lit/ major who needs real world practice.

>>39729865
ayyyy yeah your right but whos gonna stop them from roiding ?

i gave out a list of links if he wants to learn. i dont give a shit if he does or doesnt but atleast its fucking there.

>>39729883
I know, i was just talking in general since that's the cancer is spreading around here.

Most people get lazy when they're on gear, becaue muhh magicc will do the job anyway. Lack of discipline.

>>39729456

Go in real slow.

That's what I did when I first pinned. Just layed on the bed, and pinned VG slowly.

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I'm bored and up for a challenge

pic related are randomly selected SJW-types who have viewed my profile or sent me a message within the last 1-2 weeks

Number assigned to each one is their "Enemy" percentage match for me

you faggots decide which one I try to redpill/dick

>>39723354
how the fuck do i avoid getting hank hill ass? this isnt what i signed up for

>>39730061
rolling for 91

>>39730077
nice double 0 7's nigga

i have a sneaking suspicion 91 is a tranny

>>39730088
nice 88's

kek wants 91 regardless of whats packing.

>>39730061
91 but sort of close

>>39730061
23 all day

>>39730199
oh god and you got 99

ITS DECIDED

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>>39730247
fuuuuuu reroll one more time

trips of truth for 91

i live for that split second moment of humbling and docile bliss, where after a long day of bitching and being rude, she forgets her front and buries her drooling mouth into your neck or presses your lips to her breasts as she quivers in ecstasy and Moab's about how she's "cumming so she'll be good now."

That split second moment if conquer and triumph is so worth it.

>>39729865

he didn't.

go dig up the post. brick don't post much. go to archives. why argue when you can just go geck?

>18% bf, go bulk and roid
>natties shouldn't give advice

Yet the people here on gear fucking urging me to use DNP to get to 10% and then hop on gear

Urging a guy lifting for 3 months with weak tendons to use gear. Unbelievable.

This is a shithole that gives out dangerous advice, you guys get mad at me for pissing in your sewer? lol. The only good thing here is the trips with interesting personalities and anons with interesting personalities. Blog post central.

>>39729888

here's the tl,dr, I found a autistic nice girl, gonna actually date her I think, very happy.

>>39730375
I remember it too I saw it myself. lol

And what they told you isn't even necessarily bad. What they told that guy is absolutely retarded. My friend started gear after barely lifting too because he had fucking lower testosterone than me, I think it was like less than 150 ng/dl literally. and he's fine now

>>39730368
>ecstasy and Moab's
Tfw you will never use your dick to make a girl Mother of All Bombs.

>>39730435

oh lol

Well not everyone can like you I guess. Shucks.

>he had low T

Well I don't glands. Hence I don't need TRT. Any test use would be roiding.

And it wouldn't be on a fucking TRT dose either, I'd cycle 500mg or some shit.

You're telling me you gonna advise a guy lifting for 3 months to cycle 500mg? lol.

Also

>above 9% bf
>using DNP

Why? Fork put downs are easy as fuck, who needs DNP unless you want to get to 6% like your striated ass?

The advice I was given was

>swallow DNP instead of fork put downs
>Use roids, asap, natty lifting a meme, roids roids roids, don't matter your tendons are new to lifting, just roid

Total insanity. Dangerous, stupid, ill thought out advice.

I would think that they were giving me this "advice" out of malice and hopes I would fuck my shit up, but they give it to anons too.

I'm so fucking dyel, I haven't even entered noob gains yet. I'm fucking cutting at -1250 (just slowed to -750 for the last 5%).

And they say 'roid'. When i haven't even begun with noob gains?

Insanity. Worst thing is, they flame me for not following this "ADVICE?"

TOP KEK

>>39730061
23 needs a good dicking.

>>39730489
well if they're doing that they're retarded, i didnt see it

dnp works the same at every bf% though it just increases your metabolism by a fixed % per mg

>>39730508

They do that not to me, to fucking anons.

Keep in mind retarded + dyel but I thought that once you get to like 9%, it gets hard to lose bf % without losing muscle, or even hard to lose bf % in general.

Hence the need for DNP.

IIRC Bimbo said this, and like me or not, I respect his physique and what he accomplished and trust what he says

But if you not 9%- why the fuck you need to swallow DNP? Why not just eat less food? How hard is that?

if anything, fucking changing your sheets every night because they colored yellow and blowing yellow loads sounds a lot more unplesant than fork put downs.

I just eat clean and I don't even get hungry at -1250.

How fucking hard is this shit?

I cannot understand the mentality of someone taking DNP and eating fucking cakes and pizza 5000 calories a day so they can get to 10% lol

>>39730534
cuz the main reason it is used is to speed up cutting.

a moderate dose of dnp (500) would turn your 1250 deficit into a 2650 deficit assuming your tdee is 2500 and that is being extremely conservative. sides at 500 aren't even bad. using the same calculations 750 would make your deficit 3312, although at that dose it gets a bit unbearable

if retards use it to eat more but lose fat at the same rate theyre just retarded. but in general i would rather suffer more for less time. it also lets me spend more time bulking so overall gains are increased, since it takes 3x less time to cut

Anyone here sterilizes and crimps unsealed vials? How do you do it? Is alcohol wash and oven enough?