/Fraud/ Steroid General

>>39731684
>and other insanity

ohh boy dont call in the woke master himself, we dont want to see him gain any more followers in his death cult of pepe

>>39731616

How can you not lose your fucking mind with ridicilious shit like that?

I would prolly start shooting people

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Do you guys wear boxer briefs or briefs? I usually do boxer briefs but the legs always ride up even with 9" ones.

>>39731632
You could probably do kegels but I've personally never stuck to it long enough to notice anything.

>>39731767
Time to put down the tren, friend.

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>>39731767

Clearly never worked in any kind of sales or retail job.

What do you do for work moosey?

maybe glandsfaggot worked in sales/retail.

I have this unshakeable ability to deal with idiocy and stupidity, even, to listen to it and keep a neutral face and nod 'yes sir, sounds great, yep yep!, where do I send that invoice?'

Like that guy that bought a 11lb toughbbook for his wife to use on campus LOL

I think I figured it out

>my wife is dyel as hell fuck
>I'll make her carry around this heavy ass toughbook
>muscle girl soon

It weighs 3 times as much as a typical notebook...

idiot from last thread. what am i supposed to do? i am just keeping myself from ever actually going out and pulling someone. And when the occasion is there, i just do everything to not get laid. Even when its painfully obvious and she is grinding my cock, i just go " yup, whatever, bye have things to do". Im worse than swollen glands but i have no reason to be like that.

>>39731804
you're used to deal with retardation because you live with yourself

>>39731811

lol 8/10

>>39731810

Stop doing it?

>doctor doctor it hurts when I smack my head into the wall.
>what do I do?

>>39731810
See a counselor and they can help you get a diagnosis as well as find ways to deal with your mental illness. If you need a specialist they can direct you to one. Your mental state is lagging behind your body and your routine isn't doing shit so see a fucking PT

>>39731804
Why is he dumb for that? Strange way of interpreting, I'd assume the guy has probably dealt with his wife breaking mobile devices before.

Stop being the negative autist, be positive autist.

>>39731804
Construction mechanic, i basically craft shit everyday like in minecraft.

Note tho its not the "construction" you think of, im sitting in a workshop, im not working on buildings or anything.

I could never work in a office or in retail. Backstabbing vein cunts, all of them. Im pretending to be a nice guy, everyone else is pretending to be a nice guy. Meanwhile everyone is a piece of shit, no thanks. I hear enough stories from other people.

>>39731796
>inject some steroids
>feel fine at first
>suddenly feel nauseous and tingly
>first facial hair falls out
>feel tightness in my crotch
>rip clothes off
>body hair and pubes falling out
>balls recede into body
>hips widen
>dick falls off
>I yell out in shock but my voice breaks and becomes high pitched
>pass out
>eventually go to doctor
>doctor asks rhetorically "you injected the steroids didnt you?"
>doctor tells me my body has zero testosterone, and that my Y chromosomes all dissolved and flushed out of my body
>says Im only left with single X chromosome
>"You're not a real man anymore son, you've become an it"
>"You'll never be able to have children, but you can adjust to having a normal sex life by becoming a g4p power bottom"
>"I hope the gains were worth it"

Tfw anon tried to warn me and now it's too late, woe is me.

>>39731878

forgot trip

anyways here at my job, everyone is honest and forward with me. No backstabbing, no ones talking behind anyones back. No one looks like a faggot.

>>39731832
lad i was a submissive bitch my entire life (and looked like one too) and now i have all this power and these sexy arms and abs. I look like a slayer but im still beta inside, watch animes 24/7 and play WoW all day long. I thought about just doing drugs all the time until my mind gets chill

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>>39731804
I've worked in a restaurant and I currently work in real estate management that specialized in residential for almost 3 years before hiring a management company to handle most of them seperately and moving into commercial.

I fucking hate dealing with people. Idiots, all of them. They'll sue you for the dumbest of dumb fuck things they do (Like "tripping" on a piece of upended concrete on property repossessed by you. Literally going out of their way to trespass on your property to find something to fall over on and sue you for over a year later after they find a scumbag fucking lawyer to go after you pro bono.) because they know they can get 10 grand out of a settlement because no one wants to spend 30+ in court on lawyers and shit.

Short greentext of dumb crackwhore I had to deal with day after day for months before we evicted her.

>C.H: WHY DID I GET A 3/60??? THE FUCKING MANAGER DIDN'T GIVE ME MY INVOICE FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS (She did) I HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN MY UTILITIES YOU CAN'T EVICT ME
>Me: If you want I can show your balance right here right now. (It was close to 3 grand outstanding, and she failed to pay a previous stipulation we had her on.) Since you haven't paid rent for the last 3 months, can you make a payment by next week for the balance?
>C.H: Yeah sure of course thank you so much Mr. natT I appreciate you working with me but your on site manager is such a bitch blablabla some weird crack head story
>ready to shoot myself in the fucking head because she won't shut up and I can't hang up.

Next week

>C.H calls me
>pls have your balance paid
>natT I CAN'T PAY THE FUCKING RENT YOUR MANAGER IS A BITCH I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE HER ANYTHING. YOU CAN'T EVICT ME I HAVE 6 CHILDREN AND THEY'LL BE ON THE STREET IF YOU DO...
>incoherent rambling and screaming went on for about 10 minutes
>Fine. You can mail the payment in to usand if it's here by next week I'll cancel the 3/60.
>Thank you Mr. natT my children appreciate it I'm so sorry blabla
>cont.

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>>39731810
Take action, or you don't want it enough.

You have to want it, in the same way you have to want to be fit to put in the work there. it's that simple.

Do you watch a lot of porn? I know for a while that was a serious problem for me. I would have opportunities to get laid, but I'm just like "meh. I don't want it that bad," I didn't realize it at the time, but this was largely due to the fact that my subconcsious and brain knew there was a much easier way to achieve that orgasm I want. Seriously, thats why men are so shit w women nowadays. Why risk rejection, and put effort into something, when you can just jerk off to porn? I guarantee, if you've jerked it to porn for a while, regardless of whether or not you're consciously thinking it or not, your brain has stronger neural pathways for that action, it's so incredibly easy to cum to 10s and get that orgasm this way. Why would your brain want to put in effort and work for what it perceives as the same thing? All it's looking for is that dopamine rush and nut. It doesn't take into account how much better sex is because you don't have that neural pathway built up.

I did nofap for months straight, and started weakening that pathway, while only allowing myself to cum by getting laid. This solved the problem, now I can fully realize how much less satisfying jerking off is compared to sex. and I dont even want to jerk off much anymore (except when i see pics of alexis ren)

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>>39731953
drugs seem to be a good idea, anon

here, take this bear

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>>39731957
Week two.
>I call C.H. because of fucking course she didn't send in any rent and hasn't seen the manager.
>no answer.
>she's just dodging me at this point and won't answer calls about anything.
>Tell manager to continue with eviction process
>WOO CALIFORNIA LAWS, WE GOTTA WAIT TWO MONTHS.
>Balance is now over 4.5k
>guess who fucking calls when the sheriff is doing the lockout and everything is processed
>the smile on my fucking face when I tell her there's nothing I can do at this point even if she pays her balance and I don't fucking care that her kids are homeless because that's her dumbass fault and not mine.
>she rages at me more
>it only feeds my keks

I legit felt bad for the kids if she even had them, but their dumbshit crackhead mom spent all the rent on drugs and shit. Maybe they'll learn to hate her and become better people. I like to dream.

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>>39731953
was the same way m8.

now it really sounds to me like you just need to reprogram your brain. Stop porn, and fapping. It will be difficult, but just fucking do it. You will find newfound motivation and extreme fucking horniness. Use this, to go approach and talk to girls, get rejected over and over, and and cultivate the skill of the million-dollar-mouthpiece. Only allow yourself to cum by getting laid, idc if you have to lower your standards a little even, this is about reteaching your brain the best way to achieve orgasm and forgetting the old way.

>>39731916

man moosey I think you're a good guy

You don't even need to be nice to be good, just don't fuck anyone, you know?

>>39731953

Nothing wrong with anime or wow but you need to find time to do productive stuff too

>alex writes as he spends 5 hours a day blogposting

n-no bully

anyways dude, just do it. I don't know what else to tell you. Just do it.

>>39731957

>eady to shoot myself in the fucking head because she won't shut up and I can't hang up.

See, what always helped me is just the knowledge that 'this is how it has to be'.

Once you internalize that this is how it has to be, it doesn't seem so bad, no point getting worked up, because there's no choice man.

If there's no choice, all you can do is grit your teeth and just do it.

Really helped me reduce my stress and cortisiol levels from ebay work.

>>39732011

desu, story goes from 'lol' to sad because of the kids.

Need PCT for 16 week cycle with e5d TestE (250mg).

>>39732045
>this is how it has to be

Nah we outsourced customer relations and onsite management to another company when we fired our onsite manager because she stole thousands in cash. It's never been better at my job, I do jack shit 3 weeks out of the month and tell persistent assholes "contact the management company, we have no say in it anymore." But we (I) do.

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>>39732191
you can't do test 3 e5d. either e3d or e3.5d.

the enanthate ester isn't long enough for 5 days which means you're practically good hormonal for about 3/4 days and then on the fifth day ur gonna drop like a hot potato.

>>39731767
fucking lol. it has led me to develop an ungodly willpower, from resisting beating the shit out of these animals on a day to day basis while on tren. can you imagine having to deal with this such bullshit like this while on 860mg tren e and 250 test?

>>39731883
10/10 saved

>>39732020
mang here comes the problem, i noticed a long time ago that porn and fapping is shit thus i dont do it anymore. So i agree entirely but thats something i have already stopped doing. It was actually one of my first steps to not be a beta faggot anymore.
Its not even that i get rejected all the time or no one wants me. I had so many opportunities where i was just standing there (at the party) and girls just approached me and wanted to hang out with me and bla bla. And then i just ignore them or whatever and start hanging out with my friends again. I dont know why im doing this. Im so fucking close everytime. I just have to make one single fucking move and boom im bangin hot pussy every weekend. I was at the beach once and 2 staceys went up to me to take selfies with me. Felt so fucking good that day.
Im still thinking about this whole drug thing, just to loosen up my jimmies. I mean im not even drinking alcohol when im out. Never smoke weed etc. Maybe that would help to get things started.

>>39732299
>girls just approached me and wanted to hang out with me and bla bla. And then i just ignore them or whatever
cough
>staceys went up to me to take selfies with me.
this shit is flattering but fucking annoying.
>trying to ignore grill
>"hey anon look"
>look
>camera app is open and she's taking a selfie
fuck off

>>39732299
man i fucking hate myself right now so much. Days pass and i know im wasting my fucking time, my good years with this beta faggot ass shit. I have always dealt with this problem myself and i made the transition from ugly ass beta faggot to somewhat desireable man myself. But right now im getting depressed about my own self, for how much of a faggot i am. Why the fuck am i doing this? Fucking why? It feels good for the first moment. Because even tho i didnt pull a slut, i know i could have and go home with a smiling face. But just a day after i realize im still a virgin faggot with all the power in the world and yet i keep myself shut in at home and watch cuck tier animes. Now that i think about it, i fucking hate to watch animes but i still do it, because thats what i did for the past 5 years. And when i see my ugly ass class mates bragging about their hot gf's with pics i want to vomit so hard. Im not even mad at them for being ugly cucks with hot gf's, im mad at myself for being a 10x more likeable and attractive person than them, and still being a virgin ass faggot.

JUST fucking kill myself already holy shit.

>>39732318
fucking kek senpai that made me laugh hard.

pls never leave /fraud/

>>39732287
Jesus fucking christ
I may have just gone off the deep end, you are a stronk mang
>>39732299
you don't need drugs or alcohol m8, the only way that would help is if its fear thats holding you back, you're either deep down afraid and don't want to admit it or, you just don't want it enough, you must not have any fucking sex drive at all if you dont fap or get laid and still don't want it. It may be a physical problem, are you on test or anything? If not, you may be low test, I can't see any other reason for having no motivation at all to fuck women. That or maybe some psychological problem or some shit, which could very well go hand in hand with the fear thing i was saying. I'm not even necessarily saying you're consciously scared, but maybe you have some sort of trauma buried deep down in your subconscious you don't even realize is effecting you. Hell, it's probably just a lifetime of being a beta, you're brain is still stuck in that mode.

In any case I suppose, Just FUCKING DO IT. Take action. Go at least TRY to get laid. If you don't at least try, you have no right to sit around complaining and whining.

That makes exactly like the fat person complaining and whining about their weight, who refuses to count calories or workout

>>39732435
I don't know, man, whatever he's doing isn't cutting the mustard, maybe it is time for some drugs and alcohol.

He just has to approach the drug and alcohol use in a structured way and focus all that drug life magic toward getting females.

>>39731976
>>39732509
>man with undiagnosed mental illness goes to /fraud/ for help
>/fraud/ encourages him to do more drugs

Never change

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>>39732557
If you're an autismo who can't talk to women but has a bangin body hmu and I'll give you some of my pic related "OMFG-YOU'RE-HOT-CAN-I-TOUCH-YOUR-TITS" in a pill. Mental conditions don't even matter on this shit, it's used for treating PTSD as we speak! Guaranteed to make you want to fuck the first female you lay eyes on and boost confidence 10000000x more than alcohol.

>>39731795
Commando whenever I can get away with it.

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>>39732509
I agree and disagree

I'm a huge advocate of MDMA and LSD for its ability to treat people for things like anxiety, PTSD, and giving you balls of steel, and whatnot, and it is starting to seem like spending a lifetime as a beta may have "traumatized" him in a way, or at the very least routed his brain in a specific way that could be helped by mdma and lsd. I know for sure, those two have changed me enormously as a person for the better, helped me let go of past baggage, become more empathetic, happy, social, etc. So it probably could have benefits for him

But, for his specific situation, it seems to me like, he's probably socially well adjusted, he doesn't really have fear in talking to girls (correct me if im wrong anon), he just needs to fucking take action more than anything, and you don't need drugs to do that.

tldr, if youre scared, take drugs, if not, then you dont need them, just fucking do it? really not that hard m8, like the other dude was saying, just do it for yourself, even if you don't want the sex that bad, just do it to get out of this weird fucked up rut, find some sort of motivation, obviously you must want it to some extent if you're on here bitching and saying youre gonna kill yourself

>>39731953
Cam model.
You'll get tons of attention, (mostly from dudes lol) and it really helps boost your self esteem.

>submissive bitch
Alternatively, just find a dominant girl to peg you and be her little sissy slut.

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>>39732633
Ay natT, whats you're email, i'll cop some, dont like dealing w deep web, and cut shit you get from dealers IRL

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>>39732633
or just email me

evo941@protonmail

One week down, seven to go. Then it's HRT time boiz. Chicks w/ dicks have the most fun.

>>39732435
nononono none of this. Thats the problem dude. The problem is, that there is no fucking problem.
I do well socially, i have a sway with words, i make people like me fast, i have people inviting me over to parties. And as i said earlier, girls approach me even when im just standing there all silent.
I have boners 24/7, i have high interest in girls and im not into all this "woman are trash" cuck tier mentality. Im not autistic at all. I make friends all the time, totally unwanted. I have all this power, all these options, yet i just dont make a fucking move when the real deal comes. I talk with drunken girls the entire fucking night and everything is fine. But i never make the move to make out with one, to get her number, to driver her home and rape her. It makes me so fucking mad. Swollen glands has atleast a reason for being an autistic idiot. When i was ugly, i wasnt interesting in all this stuff either. But now i have all the power and i just dont use it.
You are probably right. I just have to take action. Im not even scared to get rejected, but still havent done a single move on a girl once. It makes me rage so hard and the fact that im attractive makes me depressed as fuck. And yes as i said earlier, i usually fix my own shit on my own. I have always done so. But right now im so fucking frustrated and mad, i just had to go full retard and write my cringe posts on fraud. I thought steroids would fix this shit, but well..test doesnt have a mental affect after all, despite popular claim.

>>39732813
>Im not even scared
What's holding you back then?

>.test doesnt have a mental affect after all, despite popular claim.
Placebo and that's it. Tren has a mental effect but most roids don't. Dbol does to, in my experience, but it makes me mellow as fuck.

>>39732839
>whats holding you back

i think thats his problem m8, there is nothing holding him back.

>>39732849
>there is nothing holding him back.
I'm not sure I understand.
If there's nothing holding you back from doing something you desire, why aren't you doing it?

>>39732874
mental block

>>39732874
Maybe he really does have a mental illness and has been lying this entire time.

>>39732889
>mental block
Then the mental block is holding you back.

>>39732899
I don't know if I'd go so far as to call it a mental illness. But something is weird, even if he can't bring himself to identify it.

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Curious how many of you run HCG on cycle.

Made a poll

http://www.strawpoll.me/11906640

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Where do you guys buy sterile vials? I know medlab has them but is anyone else better?

>>39733103
I do 1k e3d but I'll be dropping it down to 500 e3d.

>>39732732
I'll send u one when I'm home

>>39732813
M D M A
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>>39732020
Ayy man, million-dollar-mouthpiece is some jeffy shit. Leave my boy out of this.

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Finished a 12 week test enth cycle and just started week 3 of PCT

how long til life doesn't suck again?

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thoughts on a slight bulk after finishing a dnp cut?
1-4 weeks 500mg tren a
1-16 weeks proviron 50mg ed
1-? weeks 350-400 test e

>>39734454
you've lived the enhanced life so it will always suck while natty

but it'll suck slightly less in about 2-3 weeks, by the time whatever serm you're using is fully out of your system and your test levels have recovered better

>>39734517
>proviron
why tho

>>39734573
try it out, p cheap raws

Anyone know How fast the benefits of Masteron P disappear after quitting it? I.e. vasculairty, mood and libido etc.

Was planning on running it this summer right up until a music festival, last pin same day as I'm leaving. Would be dope to keep them, and not have to bring pins etc.

>>39731804
Pls do roids already

Hey /Fraud/

I've been taking Test E for about 6 weeks now at 250mg e3.5d

Ill be on vacation for about 6 days where I wont be able to do my injection

Should I do 1 shot of 500 mg before vacation or skip a dose?

>>39734724
so get mast e and just inject a shitload right before you leave

>>39734750
skip a dose

not smart to take extra test and not have ai on hand

unless you are bringing ai. but still you don't want to risk gyno, just inject right before you leave

So when I get my shit straight I plan on going on baby's first tren/mast/testA cycle.

Only problem is that I am chubby as fuck.

So if I went on a decent cut and threw that in the mix for 8 weeks, is it very possible I would loose a decent amount of weight and get some trengains?

>>39731684
Is everyone just going to SST now to get their celltech?

I miss Juicin J and the crew :^(

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>>39734769
>I'm fat and want to do test, tren, and mast, a drug used for maintaining mass while being lean as fuck for competition.

Do you HONESTLY need a roided trip to tell you why this is a stupid idea and you should diet, work out, and lose body fat before you roid especially on a stack like that? I literally have no experience whatsoever with roids, but I can pretty confidently say what you're planning is a dumb idea.

Diet, work out, lose weight, then roid.

Sorry for being blunt, I'm p drunk rn. Bottle of Da Vinci chianti and chocolate stouts got me shitposting.

>>39734777
You miss a guy who exit scammed, tried to remedy months later, then fucked it up with even more contaminated vials? Y doe?

>>39734769
keep the test low, tren/mast high and you'll be fine

>>39734843
stop

>>39734843
>You miss a guy who exit scammed, tried to remedy months later, then fucked it up with even more contaminated vials? Y doe?

Wow I totally missed that. Never had a single problem with him desu, that is really legit disappointing. Glad I never responded to his last email, all makes sense now.

>>39734902
>Glad I never responded to his last email, all makes sense now.

That being said, this seems to be the fate of every single dealer. Gets greedy, selectively scams. I will be throwing out the rest of the shit I bought from him.

How long after starting a cruise should I get bloods done to make sure everything is ok? Four weeks?

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>>39734917

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>>39734777
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/why-shouldnt-fat-people-do-steroids

Here. There's mostly unbiased opinions littering that thread of why chubbier people should/shouldn't roid all through that post with an emphasis on should. There's also people with experience roiding as a higher bf% individual.


But I even read through it just for you and TL;DR if you're gonna roid with test at high bf% make sure your AI is on point and do >>39734857 but I honestly have no clue why you would run mast at the same time and I'd love for someone more experienced to chime in.

>>39734857
Am I wrong?

>>39734902
Were you legit not here for the ~month or so recently he was tripping again?

He sucked everyone's dick, passed out more vials than requested, and fucked up even harder then left again.

It was kinda sad to watch.

>>39731810
Didn't read the last thread, but I got over my fear of sex by getting rub and tugs from Asian massage parlours. Helped me deal with human touch and having someone else make me cum.
Now I can fuck chicks normally and never turn down chances anymore.

>>39734982
>Were you legit not here for the ~month or so recently he was tripping again?

Nope, I was not. Had some real life shit come up, barely even came to 4chan except to lurk once in a while.

That is shitty.
Anyway, I'll close that up since it's a sore subject.

>>39735000
In general, if you haven't lost your virginity by 19, just call up an escort/prostitute and have sex. So many people want the first time to be special and that's what fucks them up more than anything

>>39734917

Because fucking people that want to do legitimate business sell laptops *cough* and people that want to exit scam sell roids lamo

>>39734843

Diet? Exercise? You mean run 750mg dnp

>>39734740

you just want me to use gear so you can look at my dyel physique and >roiding for this at me

I am on to your tricks anon

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>tfw 400mg vitamin b6 was ok in keeping prolactin on 600mg tren
>for 3-4 days i had to lower it to 200mg cause ran out and had to go to store
>moonface and tits as a result

It's been 2 days of 1000mg dosing and it's still taking time to subside, fuck this shit.

even taking 2.5mg letro every day atm.

>>39734982
What a high res beauty.

What do you guys think of SARMS?

I'm turning 19 soon but wondering if steroids will stunt growth?

>>39735324

Nothing bad ever, ever, ever, happened to anyone ever from using gear at age 19

(sorry couldn't resist dude)

>>39734843
>You miss a guy who exit scammed, tried to remedy months later, then fucked it up with even more contaminated vials? Y doe?
i miss his bro science

everything will be okay if you take pink salt and coconut oil, tian says.

>>39735533
i don't understand what you're trying to imply with this post.

>>39735198
i hear p5p is better than b6

how close to my workout should I take my pwo dbol?

Should I already be experiencing water weight gains during my second week of test E cycle?

>>39732633
Well what is the stuff called?

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>>39735198
>Moonface
>Tits
Really?
Also who here is natty?
t.2 year lifter, dyel by /fit/ standards

where's the pastebin showing all the pics of the namefags here? I want to decide who's worth taking seriously here

>>39736134
your supposed to take no one seriously here and do your own research after you learn something from here.

>>39736134
you can trust me dude

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>>39736179
you know i will bby

>>39735963
Butt-naked, ill, sherm, dust, primos, p-dog.

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Theoretically, if you were on test and tren, would it even be possible to lose muscle on 1000 calories of pure protein a day?

assuming you're not ifbb pro or top amateur level already.

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>>39732813
waited all of work to say this
>Im not autistic at all
>The problem is, that there is no fucking problem

>>39735315
LGD is my favourite oral so far, and stacks well with test. It should also enhance the action of any steroid that binds to shbg.

>>39736337
Depends on your TDEE and the dosage. If you're not in a terrible deficit and you're taking a good amount of stuff you'll probably be fine.

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what's the best capsule-making machine mother fuckers?

also what filler y'all use?
gonna be capping asin, proviron, and cialis/viagra blend.

>>39736797
Same boat, wanna cap asin, serms, adrol, sdrol and methyltrienolone, maybe I should just put them in liquid

>>39736797
Creatine monohydrate is what I usually use.

>>39736861
Jesus thats like using dnp as a filler for clen

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Anyone got any info on mestanolone aka methyl-DHT?

Gonna cruise for another month and then blast for 16-20 weeks. I'm getting old so joints/tendons take a beating when I'm blasting. Last blast I tried using EQ, which was good for that purpose. I've read somewhere that EQ helps the most in terms of that area, but my BP got super high as well as RBC.

Wondering whether I should try deca for my next blast. Read it's also good for joints/tendons. I've read that you should dose it less than Test from some place, and more than Test from others. Also worried about deca dick.

Should I just go with EQ again, or give deca a whirl?

>>39737093
If your joints are shitting on themselves just up your fish oil dosage.

Are the effects of first time standard test cycle be enough to justify doing it at a time when I can avoid work/social situations for the duration? Like if I purely lift sleep and eat while trying it for the first time would it be worth it, as opposed to just going abut my standard routine?

>>39737127
I'm not totally sure what you're asking. Obviously the more time you have to devote to lifting and eating the better your results will be. But this isn't rocket surgery, as long as you're not dying to be the next Ronnie Coleman just do as good as you can. Don't let a cycle keep you from work and fun.

>>39737093
how much eq were you using and for how long?
if you gave deca a whirl you could just use around 200-300 ew for the joint "gains"

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>>39734127
kek i heard Jeffy say it after my dad but i vaguely remember that
>>39734843
Damn can't believe this, i must not have been here around then, glad i was not a victim
>>39735053
>lost virginity at 18 to the gf of the dude that made fun of me for being a virgin kek
>>39735567
And don't drink any water before or 45 mins after any meal, it will dilute your stomach acid and you wont make gains kek
>>39735800
I would take mine 30 mins - 1 hour before or so
>>39735909
probably a little but don't get carried away in letting yourself gain weight yet if you're smart, because its still not nearly built up in your system enough to make a difference, and the fatter you are the less gains you'll make, you make the most lean mass gains the leaner you are
>>39736337
Probably not, or at least not a significant amount, people already do PSMF even as nattys with minimal fat loss when done right

>>39731684
Is there anywhere to buy
clomiphene citrate without a prescription? Also, any major negative side effects?

>>39737093
Ostarine was magic on mine at 50mg ED (high dose I know) in less than 2 weeks, stacked with test. Cheap from irc.bio

Theres alsp BPC157 (orally available) and TB500 (can be injected weekly).

Dont hesitate to fix that shit up.

>>39737279

I did 600mg/wk of EQ for 16 weeks. I didn't really notice it until maybe 8 weeks in, but once I did for how mild it was (the BP was mostly an issue b/c I have hereditary problems) the results were pretty good. If I were to do EQ again for another cycle I would increase to 800-900mg/wk since 600mg/wk is the bare minimum recommended. I would just have to donate blood as often as possible.

I might just give deca a whirl this time around and see how it feels, then drop it if I don't like it. I'm ok with running test only cycles... just gotta pay more attention to my joints and tendons.

>>39737318

>And don't drink any water before or 45 mins after any meal, it will dilute your stomach acid and you wont make gains kek

Stop writing this shit I'm so dyel I don't know what's a meme and what's real life


Also,

>waiting for electrolyte salts to come in the mail
>waiting for multivitamin to come

Gonna start PMSF. Problem is, by the time the shit arrives, I'll be ready to start first fucking bulk, so I guess I'll be using that shit down the road (to cut the fat from upcoming bulk)

>>39737996
>by the time the shit arrives
where did you order from, fuckin china?

>>39737757
>irc.bio

Can anyone confirm the quality of ostarine from that site?

So I was in a similar boat to anon here with the being able but too beta to pull girls, and personally abused porn and fapping for years.

The irony now is I'm in the best shape of my life, and could pull Chad numbers if I really put my mind to it... But my dick doesn't work.

In the last 3 weeks I hooked up four times, came never. Even with the help of ED drugs my shit doesn't maintain.

Compared to lying on my back and giving my dick the kung fu grip no pussy plus condom combination is tight enough, plus my cardio has degraded since starting roids in September.

Stopped fapping on the eleventh, my balls ache, and I'm frustrated at the constant humiliation.

If I looked like a beta cuck it be easier, but because of how I am the letdown is even greater for the girls involved, they see me and figure I will savage the pussy.

What do?

>>39738085

Everything is slow during christmas time. I'm sending messages non stop to angry customers asking me why their shit hasn't arrived yet. (Apparently it's my fault usps is slow, kill me)

Anyways, I gotta lose 10lbs and I'm not on PMSF but I'm at 2k deficient now, so I expect to lose the 10lbs in like 2 weeks and start bulk

I know blah blah blah diet is what determines cutting or bulking and not gear.

But will adding in a decent dose of tren ace, say 50mg ed, make you lose fat faster if the deficit is kept the same? Maybe even build some muscle?

That is what the broscience tells me and I just want to ask you guys

>>39736797
Don't bother with Cap-M-Quik or The Capsule Machine, go for one of those 100 count manual capsule fillers. Baking soda's a pretty good filler.

>>39738571
Talking about as opposed to just cruising on 250 test e.

I had to stop pinning Tren E for 10 days now, how long would it take to return to what it was 10 days ago?

>>39732813
how old are you

>>39737318
>>lost virginity at 18 to the gf of the dude that made fun of me for being a virgin kek

Hahaha, that's pretty sick

>>39737127
Why would you want to avoid work and social situations? Don't turn into the awkward hermit who only has large muscles to try and compensate for him being socially inept

I'm so fucking bad at taking compliments

I got a great haircut and now people at work keep telling me how great it looks but I can't get out of my head the idea that it isn't really and that they're just making fun of me

low self-esteem crew unite

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So, my TOTAL T levels are in the low 400's. Tomorrow I've got a blood test for TRT, what can I do to lower those numbers tonight?

Will I be able to lower them enough? Is TRT at those levels worth it?

>>39738905

Tonight, besides not sleeping at all. I plan on taking

>Sertraline
>Modafinil
>Melatonin
>Alcohol
>Prednisone


Sounds like it would get my levels below the magical number limit for TRT?

>>39738905

Test is tommrow? why didn't you ask sooner?

Don't sleep, don't eat, just drink a shitload of booze and stay up all night

Screens will help you not sleep. Try to do some productive shit on the computer if you can't manage, watch anime or play games or something

>wahh wahh Alex giving advice

This is not on roids but how to live an unhealthy lifestyle and destroy your body.

What do you guys use to keep track of blood pressure? I'm trying to find a sphygmomanometer (preferably analog), but it seems like none of the ones on Amazon have a cuff size of greater than 16" without being twice the price.

If I'm coming from a cut into a test-e cycle, should I keep cutting the first few weeks until the test kicks in or should I bulk right away?

>>39738972

>why didn't you ask sooner?

Even on this, I procrastinate.

>Don't sleep, don't eat, just drink a shitload of booze and stay up all night

Alright, I'll double the Modafinil dose to kill appetite.

>>39738895
>Attractive girl approaches
>Hey there Handsome
> It must be a dare or something. I'm sure all her friends are laughing.

>>39738905
>>39738942
honestly I doubt you'll manage to crash it low enough for your doctor to get your on TRT. you'd need a 200ish ng/dl drop

doc standards etc

>>39738895

same
>hey anon show us your arms xD
>uhm why?
>xD cuz they are big

spend the rest of the day pissed off because im sure these fucking bitches made fun of me

>>39731684
is it acceptable for me to start cycling at 18 as long as i do it smart and pct correctly? ive been lifting for 3 years and ive got some basal strength. also should i do a cut to 10% from 15% before my cycle?

>>39739079

Really? Shit..

>>39739109
>Wow! You look bigger.
They're calling me fat
>Have you lost weight?
Assume they're calling me dyel

>>39739117
>is it acceptable for me to start cycling at 18
It's your body m8. Unless you're holding out for a growth spurt is go for it.
>should i do a cut to 10%
Yes.

>>39739143
as far as height stunt goes. afaik the growth stunt is caused by too much estrogen closing growth plates. if i use an AI i should still be able to grow right?

>>39739122
Not the anon you're responding too, but it's not guaranteed you'll get straight test even if you get to the levels you're interested in.

They'll probably put you on HCG that gets you above 450 and then call it a success because now you're in the "normal range."

>>39739191

Honestly, I wouldn't mind a HGH prescription at all. I currently have pharma grade test and I can pretty much get as much as I want to. HGH is way harder to find for me.

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>>39739211
A KITCHEN AID BOWL FULL OF CHEETOS
Oh my god I feel so sympathetic towards this.
Can this be a new meme PLEASE?

>>39739159
Iirc, test closes plates to, just not as much as estrogen.

If you're not happy with your hieght, I would definitely stay off. Or go to a doctor and see in your growth plates have closed. If your talking going for a bit more hieght look into seems, or HGH if you've got the money for it.

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>>39739192
>>39739199
>>39739211
>>39739229

>>39739238
i would really like to get on hgh because im short and would like to get a bigger jaw. however i cant acquire it, my doctor didnt want to prescribe it to me a few years ago (not short enough lol). the testosterone however, i can get pharma grade.
i dont know if i will grow anything more tho, 1,5 year ago i was like 2mm shorter..

>>39739237
There but for the grace of God, go we.

>>39739271
>i would really like to get on hgh
Rob a bank. Lol

Alternatively look into HGH boosters. They're, anecdotally, almost as good.

>>39739159
Don't count on it. If you care about height at all don't roid unless you need to because you're low test

How long does tren a take to give the "tren look". I know it has a super short half life but how long does it take to be noticable compared to tren e?

>>39739109
>spend the rest of the day pissed off because im sure these fucking bitches made fun of me

>>39739074
t. Dennis


>>39739271
>i would really like to get on hgh because im short and would like to get a bigger jaw.

You're also going to have to get slin if you get HGH, and then you're on the Palumboism train of pain

>>39739299

Does that crap really work? My dad takes it, I assumed it was a scam?

>rob a bank

Ugh, you people. Always looking for ways to cheat and to scam and to sell drugs to make money

Instead you could do legitimate business, not risk jail. But no, steal,lie, cheat,sell steroids, "exit scam", gay for pay, much better

I write about dumpster diving weekly and the money I made off it, didn't have to was dishes anymore, but no, exit scam, sell drugs, rob banks

>>39739331
Autism

>>39739229
what's wrong with this one?

I'd fugg her

her parents just wanted to celebrate her birthday with her, she probably went out that night with her friends, got shitfaced drunk and had sex with a random guy

>>39739232
I didn't say HGH

I said HCG

Look it up

>>39739232
>has access to pharma grade test
>wants to crash t levels to get TRT so he can get pharma grade test

What am I missing here? How do you get pharma test without a script?

>>39739229
>>39739211
>>39739199
>>39739192

Know what i noticed? All of these pictures look really sad, except the one with the girl.
Why? Because she is smiling and she looks like she is having a good time (even if she isnt), that she is feeling comfortable.

>tfw when confidence is everything

>>39739393
same way you get ugl test, except it's more expensive

and usually not domestic

>>39739074
this
>>39738895
>>I got a great haircut and now people at work keep telling me how great it looks
this

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>>39738588
link me a good one on the cheap pls bb

>>39738588

thoughts on this one?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/000-5-100-Holes-Manual-Capsule-Filler-Capsule-Filling-Machine-Empty-Capsule-/112134567804?var=&hash=item1a1bbdb77c:m:miuMPb25SQF_wmAKwDem7aw

>>39731747
Wanna know how I know you're from plebbit?

>>39739483
Seems fine, I'd get the #1 or #2, with powder pressing plate.

>>39739393

I live in Spain, I can easily cross the border to Morocco and buy Androtardyl from a pharmacy. But they don't have HGH, sadly enough. I'd prefer to have a script from a doc, so I don't have to go to Morocco for it.

>>39739393

Aw, shoot. Fuck.

>>39739518
>>39739525
keep in mind that you will get in regards to doctors is mostly about American/North American doctors

trt is rarely prescribed here and it's pretty much only for either older men or people with "kill yourself" tier test levels (sub 200). even then you have to jump through hoops and try hcg only or clomid only first (or both)

most of us can't speak for European procedures. maybe it's less retarded for you.

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>feel down and sad all day during work and after
>come home feeling like skippin the gym
>randomly check myself out in the mirror
>mfw when i see myself in the mirror
>WTF.jpg
>huge visible progress, solid asthetics
>crack a cheeky smile
>go to gym now

i know masT's secret now.

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>keep in mind that you will get in regards to doctors is mostly about American/North American doctors

True, sometimes I forget that.

Sadly, my endo seems very reluctant to the idea of prescribing test even if my levels were to be low, very condescending about the whole TRT thing in general. Anyhow, if she's not willing to prescribe it, I'll just keep buying Androtardyl from Morocco. Do you guys have that brand in the US? (Pic related)

>>39739824
>>39739648

Oopsie.

>>39739331
Dafuq. You know no one is seriously recommending bank robbing right?

>>39739714
Nice. I never seen too notice progress unless I look at old pics.

Even then I don't then I don't feel bigger, I'm just amazed by how sickly I used to look. If that makes sense.

>>39739855
when i look at my progress pics i always think about how miserable i would be if i woke up one day and looked like that again, and had to work my way back to my current body. lol

>>39739912
>how miserable i would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>would be

>>39739912
I mostly get mad at not starting earlier.

I was skelly as fuck. I looked like a cancer patient.

>>39739940
not even miserable anymore just kind of lethargic at this point. i used to be miserable as fuck about it though

Is there any point in roiding if I lift 3x a week?

>>39739855

clearly that was satire.

The mentality itt is I'd rather sell molly to 14 year olds than get a day job though

You guys do you, no judgement, but if you have the salesman-ship to sell drugs you could sell something else and not risk prison

Just my usual shitty unwanted advice

Lads I have a question about gear

I have chronic insomnia (caused by a physical condition) and average 6 hours of broken sleep per night. Will using steroids allow me to overcome this barrier to gains or is it pointless?

>>39740011
on tren you sleep like fucking 2 hours every other day only anyway.

blast and cruise faggot

>>39740040
take ibuprofen to prevent trensomnia btw. it's caused by inflammation.

>>39739984
Someone was talking about how they only lift x3 a week. Brick maybe?
I personally like to lift as often as possible. If I had time I'd probably do x2 a day 6 days a week.

>>39740011
It won't cure insomina. But you'll probably make more gains on roids+no sleep then just no sleep.

>>39740040
Damn... How the fuck do you manage that little sleep on tren? Does the gear counter the fatigue to some degree or something? The fuck do you do with all that time?

>>39740114
wat the fuck

>>39740121
Does the frequency really matter? 3x a week seems like little to me because of brosplits, but idk.

anyone answer
i want to do m/w/f full body/lower/full body

is that too little?

>>39740145
Try it. Just trust me, it works a treat. Only downside is you shouldn't take it for more than a few weeks at a time because it causes gastritis.

the worst part of being on gear is having to do cardio

FUCK cardio

>>39740011

don't use any screens a few hours before bed

read a book, work, lift, do whatever, just don't use screens

I posted before about how I was getting 3 hours of sleep a day before i started lifting

what cured my "insomnia" was not spamming f5 on my ebay and emails and then trying to go to sleep

works for 99% of "insomniacs"

also there is some stupid program called (flux?) that is supposed to help you with this too, use it during the day

>>39740146
>is that too little?
That's sort of a tough question to answer. Ideally you want to enough rest to recover before exercising again. How long your rest needs to be depends on intensity, diet, genetics sleep, roids, etc.

It's probably sub-optimal to do Full/lower/full each week.

>>39740171
You should be doing cardio natty. It's just more important on gear.
>FUCK cardio
agreed. lol

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>check orders
>all marked as shipped while I slept

W E W L A D

>old high school friend and I start talking
>she's doing good, working on her art
>really good artist actually
>we're gonna do some L and MDMA then paint a giant 10x15 canvas together in my living room

this should be fun, basically 'how long can we paint before it degrades into a sex fest for 8 hours'

I've missed drugs, this week is exactly what I've needed.

>>39740198
well i wanted to do upper/lower 2x a week, but i dont care about my upper body so i was going to do full/lower but then that's overtraining my lower body so :/

it's so complicated. i dont want to pay a trainer for a shitty routine.

>>39740223
>i dont care about my upper body
Going for them booty gains?

Upper/Lower/x/Upper/Lower/xx is probably enough recovery time.

>>39740178
>tfw im the exact opposite and sleep like a rock, but i need 8 hours to even feel remotely rested

>>39740220
maaaaaaaang, i wanna do LSD so bad.

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>>39740040
I never had THAT much trouble sleeping on tren, I'd take melatonin and l theanine and I was pretty good for the most part. Would wake up occasionally in the middle of the night tossing and turning, maybe only get like 6 compared to the usual 8, and lesser quality but nothing crazy
>>39740121
I've tried both 3x a week and high frequency, you *can* do fine with each, because less frequency will help you do more volume and intensity per workout, but that being said I've noticed every day frequency is an easy way to up the the total volume and I've had success with that. I'd say probably depends where you're at in your training and what you're already used to. If you always do higher rep stuff for hypertrophy, you might be want to start lowering frequency to do heavier weight, and if you always do heavy weight low frequency, maybe try higher frequency and a little less weight to really accrue that volume. As long as you're a heisting progressive overload you're good, alternating between these are just an easy way to achieve it, though you may want to just track total volume

>>39740241
yeah but I want to train my lower body 3x a week
It's like why waste two days about my upper body that doesn't matter?

>>39740121
I lift only 4x/week. Running Sheiko currently though, and each lifting session is ~ 2 hours not including cardio, and that's with perfectly timed 1.5 minute rest periods between all main heavy sets, too.

Fucking loving it desu

>>39740242
do it then, take two days off (one to trip one to recover), wake up, have some breakfast, and take your L. Spend time reflecting alone or with friends, whichever your preference is.

>>39740263
only 1,5 min rest between heavy sets? i rest like 4 between squats and deadlifts lol

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>>39740178
This so fucking much too!!!
I swear everyone claims to be a fucking insomniac these days but they sit with there bright phone light in front of their face, and the tv and lights on. And yeah flux is good, you don't use it during the day though, it's more for when the sun is going down in the hours before you go to bed when it's already dark out, or if your like me and find it difficult to take your own advice on no lights for hours before bed, it basically uses a darker light the later it gets to kind of get in accordance with your natural melatonin levels

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>>39740242

>Chad sleeps like a ROCK and plays VIDEO GAMES while you READ fucking BOOKs and take BATHS

Anyways if you do LSD, make sure you take the advice catpiss, estp, and I spat out. (Early in the morning, go outside, nature, nice day, good state of mind, be happy/having a good week when you take it)

The fact that two degenerate druggies and one ex degenerate all said the same shit should be pretty telling.

Also

>motivation
>progress

Yeah, obviously, I don't look nothing like you mossey, but it motivates me too, thinking how much worse I looked only a couple months ago.

I also like to keep this fucking picture of what I wanna look like in my head when I lift, helps with intensity.

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>>39740220
>8 hour sex fast
Kek, LSD is amazing Iktfb
Gonna have to find a new girlie to do that again w

>>39740215

why do you need to do cardio on gear?

Where did this bullshit about enanthate ester taking "4 weeks" to even feel it come from? So fucking stupid. Every time I inject gear I feel it basically instantly

I have seen studies myself the main which was on japanese old men, where enanthate blood levels peak the very next day after injection

So where does this horse shit come from and why the fuck is it still believed to be true

>>39740178
It's caused by a physical condition pal. i.e. fuck all to do with anything you've just listed

>>39740251
Why doesn't your upper body matter? You going for trap mode?

>>39740271
on days that I have dead --> squat --> dead I rest a little longer, 2 minutes or so. And the last handful of sets my rest period goes up to about 2 minutes. My problem is I lose momentum if I rest for too long, I feel more worn down, so I try to keep a solid pace that doesn't feel too fast but keeps me moving.

>>39740293
Thankfully like 70% of my social circle are drugged up hippie types so it's easy to track people like that down, for me

about a year ago I spent some time with a friend of a friend and she was the coolest person I've ever fucking met. Actually hopped trains around the country and only returned 'home' to the city once or twice a year to figure out what direction she wanted to go next

she smelled funny but it was okay

>>39740308
4 weeks is commonly referred to as the time that the levels truly peak. But yeah, everything else you said is about right. I wouldn't say it's an instant feeling or response, but about 12-18 hours after I pin I feel that peak, ride it for another day or so, and then notice the slight dip before pinning again.

granted that could also all be mental placebo

>>39740308
it comes from the old meme that the enanthate ester has a half life of 7.5 days. it actually peaks in almost exactly two weeks. doesn't mean you won't start feeling it before that though

you're also wrong though, it's certainly not at its peak within one day. I'd like to see those bloods.

>>39740338
Peaks as in the levels of each individual injection. It doesn't sit in your fucking ass and refuse to enter your blood for a magic x number of weeks

You inject a gram of tren e you bet you're gonna feel that shit the same day not fucking weeks

>>39740324
Trap? I'm a girl.

>>39740348
basically, no, you're wrong

too lazy to explain on mobile, Google how frontloading works and you'll understand why you're wrong

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>>39740308
Kek
People like you get placebo and think they feel shit when they don't, that's where it came from.

It takes ~4 weeks to *really* feel it because that's how long it takes to build up in your blood, but you definitely won't feel it a few days in either, I'd say you may feel some slight effect, depending on the person, around 2 weeks, but they're pretty insignificant and people could easily placebo themselves into thinking they really feel it when it's got your test levels at that of like a natty.

Different experiences for different people and whatnot, and who cares placebo or not, if you feel good you feel good.

>>39740368
stop

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>>39740327
Kek that's most of my friends in my hometown, have moved states and am still building my social circle, have a few girlies who said they'd trip with me but I'm not really feeling any of em yet, they don't share the same passion for it I do, how I believe it's good for your brain in moderation, and helps you become more intuitive, appreciative, empathetic, happy, stuff like that, and they're just like "lol I get fukked upppp"

>>39739648
This, exactly. I assumed you were in the US, when I said >>39739191

>>39740220
>this should be fun, basically 'how long can we paint before it degrades into a sex fest for 8 hours'
>I've missed drugs, this week is exactly what I've needed.

Is this what you meant by drugs making you want to be a better person? For some reason I thought you were going to become a philosopher monk or seeker of truth or something. Maybe I'm confusing you with the person you were describing your trip to.

>>39740351
Doesn't matter, your physique will look like shit if you don't keep up balance and neglect shit. I know a powerlifter girl who neglects the fuck out of upper body, only does powerlifting, pretty decent deadlift, but can't do one single pullup, and her upper back looks like dog shit

>>39740394
>lol i get fukked uppppp

yeah that's the fucking worst

painter friend I'm tripping with overcame some severe depression with a course of LSD + MDMA spaced out over a greater period of time, really helped her. Shares a lot of the same views towards it as I do.

>>39740408
I'd love to be as philosophical as Peek about it, and I aim to be. I certainly aim to better myself in other ways, but this is just part of the experience in the sense that I'm branching back out into my social circle again which is something I've been shut off from for the greater part of the past year, if not longer. I do aim to seek a greater sense of self and the truth that entails, but I feel that other people are important to that process just as much as I am.

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>>39740368
Kill yourself

>>39740359
Basically no you're wrong
>>39740485

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Lurking dutch roid bodybuilding section...

Apparently this guy is bnc for 1,5 years. LMAO, the cancer is everywhere. IT'S INEVITABLE

>>39739714
You can't know my secret, because i don't even know it myself

>>39740307

T.zyzz

Anyways placebo effect is really strong, I'm getting mastron sides from no fap just because of placebo effect

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>>39740494
jesus christ it's someone who's on gear and looks worse than I do

that's fucking horrifying

>>39740504
>natties entering the discussion of how quick you feel gear, the same one who doesn't shut the fuck up about how he knows what tren feels like because he didnt jerk his micrometer dick for a few days

Can you fucking die

>>39740489
no... You don't even understand the image you posted

that image doesn't say anything about how much of the dose you absorb in your blood. again, lookup how frontloading works.

>>39740483
>I feel that other people are important to that process just as much as I am.
As in, they and the experiences you have with them help you understand the truth? I feel like this only makes sense if you're looking for the truth behind feelings or the truth behind relationships.

I thought based on your posts you were getting a sort of religious experience concerning absolute truth though. That's such a fascinating topic/possibility to me, to be able to have an immediate experience regarding the subject of religion. Like how ancient religions/cultures used them.

I always thought that religion is kept relevant through these sorts of immediate experiences, otherwise it's just guys repeating what they read in books. Maybe I need to wait and talk to the guy you were talking to about this.

What you're doing sounds really fun, just not that much deeper than partying/sex on E/weed/other drugs, unless there's something about the psychedelics you're doing that I don't understand.

>>39740506
Best thing about yours compared to that dutch bb is your low bf%. Such an important thing to maintain. I see lots of roided guys at my gym with bellies/chest fat and it totally seems counter productive.

Like, why wouldn't that be the first thing you try to fix when you have the ability to with roids????

>>39740351
>I'm a girl.
See, that's an important thing to note. Especially when talking about roids.

I'd probably still hit upper-body frequently. I think a lot of girls grossly overestimate how much mass they're going to put on, and never even try for fear of getting "bulky". If you start to get bigger then you want, it's as easy as dropping the frequency.

>>39740558
As in the experiences with and experienced through others help me to develop a better sense of self through understanding different mindsets. Development of self, but also a broad array of experiences with other people. It's hard to explain, but after my experience (which was very religious, or spiritual at the least) I can't help but feel that people are connected in such a way that perhaps we are our own creators, seeking some sort of truth from one another. Akin to the idea that 'consciousness creates reality' and in the same way the other girl who also had a DMT experience was brought into contact with me only a day after both of our trips.

Peek could probably word it better than I can, he seems more articulate about these things than I do, probably because I'm still in a stage of understanding this emotionally and as what I'm feeling (hence the emotional and sexual connection to other people that I need to play out) while he's ascended to another level far above my own, from which he can really interpret those feelings.

>low bf%
shiet, I'm still pretty fat t b h, just not as fat as I was.

will probably have a pretty huge gut in a number of months after this bulk, can't wait to look /powerfat/

>>39740536
>injection of 125mg test e raises their levels from low test to approx 750ngndl within 1 day

>>39740595
OMFG BUT OLD ASS PIECES OF SHIT ON A FORUM TOLD ME THAT IT WOULD TAKE 4 WEEKS THAT STUDY IS FAKE

hey, question for long term rioders

have you guys ever had a weird electrical snapping sensation in your arms before?
i had this when i was doing OHP and i couldn't finish the set at that weight. from what i understand its weak tendons and since im on tren im thinking that i should get off the tren soon and let my body recover. my question is what is good for tendons? iv heard anavar is, is there anything in addition to that?

>>39740609
That's nerve damage retard, lol

>>39740618
i dont believe it. i cannot think of anything i have done that would cause fucking nerve damage.

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>>39740494
This is sad.

>>39740592
>still in a stage of understanding this emotionally and as what I'm feeling (hence the emotional and sexual connection to other people that I need to play out)

Good that you recognize that what you're doing is not the end-game. Not judging you btw. I actually sympathize with your position a lot - was very much into "learning more about myself by interacting with others on drugs" for a long time but eventually felt like it was not leading me any closer to my initial goal of understanding the absolute truth or the nature of God/existence. It did raise my social/emotional IQ a lot so I don't regret it.

Read your DMT experiences and thought it might be a way to get myself back on track but it seems like I should probably do exercise some sober efforts toward my goal before launching off into hyperspace

>>39740494
it's funny how you act like a little beta cuck over there and you have to bring his picture here because you would never say anything to him over there, Thomas

>>39740412
Who cares about my back if my ass is fat???
>>39740588
That's why I wanted to do FLxFLxx
f is full body but someone said id be training my legs without a rest

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>>39740647
>masT is encouraging and respectful to people who live in the same country and speak the same language as him, who also know his name, and doesn't give a shit about weeaboos on a Taiwanese revolution recruitment board who rage at him.

And you're surprised?

>>39740595
and 125mg/wk gets me to 1200ng/dl after 2 weeks. starting point also has no bearing because its exclusively exogenous testosterone

you have one injection to use as data. you have no idea if they 750ish ng/dl is actually the peak.

keep your awful methodology out of my thread

>>39740647
I would say it in his face faggot, like i would do to you. I AM GOD

&
I AM BRINGING THE TRUTH. if you don't like it then gtfo with your r9k feelings tinkerbell

pussies

>>39740627
Doesn't have to actually be damaged you could be pinching a nerve during your lift when it happens

Meaning you might have an injured or fucked up joint

>>39740669
Because if you didn't have the brain of a rat you would be able to realize that being a 10x responder is very rare

>>39740675
maybe im holding the bar to low on my palms, and i should have it closer to where my fingers start. that makes some sense. still, my last tren shot will be Wednesday cause i cant really take steroids to my parents place for Christmas.

>>39740672
I'm looking at the thread right now and I don't see your post??? weird

>>39740682
and 6x is also poor

one. data. point.

sample size of 9.

it's not like this is something that can only be seen in a lab environment either, roiders have been taking bloods since forever. I could link you hundreds of them just from reddit

>>39740710
I made up my mind. He looks pretty scary after all and you also going crazy against me stopped me from doing it.

I mean, i had to think twice before confronting someone on the internet that i not know. It was stupid to do. I admit. Crazy things can happen if you do. You know the last time i had some autistic dyels threatening to kill me over here.PLEASE ALLAH & JESUS HELP ME, i love myself too much to be dead.

>>39740781
3x is poor, 5-7x is pretty average.

>>39740781
So if the "average" responder amount is seen within one day you think I am gonna inject gear and have to wait weeks to feel it?

>>39740821
I like your deflecting with pseudo trolling, it's cute. just remember that you're a hypocritical beta. keep making fun of people behind their back because you're too scared of confrontation when you aren't hidden behind 4chan anonymity

>>39740844
nobody says this. you're just strawmanning.

what is actually said is that it takes time for the enanthate ester to hit its peak, not that you literally won't feel it for 6 weeks

>>39740512

All I did was give an example of placebo effect producing real physiological sides

That's it. I didn't say anything about how long it takes to feel effects of pinning

>can you die

How hard does your life suck to be this bitter

>>39740867

>hidden behind anonymity

Yet he posts his face and trips and you hide behind anon

Also come into bodybuilding thread and talk shit about guy with superior physique

Nice going turbo alpha

>>39740867
Lmao WATCH OUT WE GET THE INTERNET POLICE OVER HERE. Watch out or else....Fear his cute little twinky words.

>It's unfair to make fun about people behind their back
Get used to it pussy, it's whats going on in the real world of grown up people. Before you know it, people will talk about you behind your back.

Everyone can make fun about me, i am secure enough to don't give a fuck. I am immune to all hate. Get my dick hard just what i need to fuck myself in the ass

Like a true alpha

>>39740368

No, you'll feel it within a few days. After my first Test-E injection of 250mg, I had a permaboner. Don't remember exactly how long it took to get it, but it definitely wasn't a few days.

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Hey friends, I've been wondering whether I should trade in my natty card.

Next year I'm starting medical school, and I'm afraid for my gains, so I was thinking I should start using a little bit of gear to keep the gains coming, despite having less time to focus on exercise.

Do any of you regret trading in your natty card?
Good first cycle?

What's a good, legit source for ostarine?

>>39741083
>age
>height
>weight
>time lifting
>fat or not

>>39741083
>Do any of you regret trading in your natty card?
Never seen a poster here regret turning in their natty card.

>Good first cycle?
Test only.
Check out reddit r steroids wiki

>>39741103
>2 weeks from 22
>5'9 :(
>180
>lifting 3 years
>little bit fatter than I'd like right now from bulking, but not really
My lifts are: 155/235/225/340
My lower body lifts are shit b/c I've been dealing with nagging/recurring hip tendinitis for 2 years now

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>>39741136
drop bf% to like 10-12 before you start and ur g2g to do roids m8.

all the blessings and tinder girls to you my son

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>>39741153
>>39741127
tnx m8s

>>39741127
>Never seen a poster here regret turning in their natty card.
if someone regretted roiding, i don't imagine they'd hang out in a place like this thread.

i don't necessarily regret handing in my natty card, but if i could, i would hold onto it a bit longer.

>>39741494
so hop off gear right now and spend some time natty. lol

o wait dont wanna do that do u

lel

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Sup nerds?

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>>39741088
Caps or raws? Would it be cool if the seller posted mass spectrometry results to prove purity?

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>>39741514
ay bb, long time no see.

>>39741502
It really speaks volumes to me that even someone like you doesn't have anything bad to say about roids.

>>39741548
wat

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>>39741548
You over the super aids yet?
Today was crazy as fuck huh? Like five terrorist attacks in Europe. Russian ambassador assassinated on live TV. Electoral college votes today.
Im feeling a little on edge lol.

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>>39741551
Idk, I guess I just thought a lot about what you said loosely along the lines of "I'd rather have the swollen glands than be low T"

Shows me how much of a difference it can make in people who have an actual problem and why people who choose to roid probably wont regret it.

I'm just glad I'm not anywhere near low T and never have been or I probably would be roiding rn.

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>>39741559
Almost. I'm still having issues with cardio and boxing practice. My breathing is nowhere near 100% still even like, 3 weeks later and I'm still coughing up shit. But yeah, I'm back in the gym, on a bulk diet rn to gain back the weight I lost and thensome.

I haven't even heard of any of that shit, sounds crazy tho. You got a link to the assassination? Or am I just gonna have to google it.

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>>39741588
I don't know how far you take the natty thing but I would definitely recommend some ephedrine if you feel like you aren't breathing right.

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>>39741597

>>39741601
It's illegal, removed from the US market, and while it might not be a PED there's literally no point in me even trying to get it because I'll be out of the country in under 2 months. Thanks tho, I'll just deal with this shit until it's gone.

I may or may not have consumed 8g's of salt today.

I am going to look like a water buffoon tomorrow.

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>>39741647
You can buy bronkaid at Walgreens. Totally legal.

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>>39741725
>may or may not have
Well, which is it?

>>39741727
Does that shit help with flem and mucus in my lungs?

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>>39741727
p sure they discontinued bronkaid didn't they?

>>39741725
you made all of your meals for the day in a crock pot didn't you anon

>tfw love crockpot food that I can just cook overnight by throwing cans of shit over chicken
>every time I make it it has like 5g of sodium

feels bad

>>39741751

Bronkaid is alive and well. Just depends on your state's laws. Where it's legal will probably require ID and a purchase limit per month.

>>39741751
well i just bought it like 2 months ago so unless they did it after that, no

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>>39741751
i was like going to the grocery store to get some greek yoghurt and then those microwave hot dogs caught my eye.

i think i ate like 4 of them.

1100kcal's
70g's fat
7300mg sodium

>>39741763
>>39741767
Interesting, I looked for it before and couldn't find it anywhere. Maybe it's just my state that's cucked

>>39741776
nutritional value of the gods

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>>39741741
Yes absolutely.
>>39741751
Nope. I buy it all the time. They will ask for ID. You are limited to 9 grams a month aka 6 boxes a month. But one box lasts me a month at 2 pills a day so no big deal.

>>39741788
also try primotan (i think its called). got that too one time since the place i went too didnt have bronkaid

also that was a really shitty ass ""pharmacy"". they had primotan and six gorillion vitamins, but not fucking caffeine pills

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>>39741788
>>39741741
Also you can't buy more than two boxes at once. That's important to mention. But ya my all time favorite cardio/pre workout is 25mg ephedrine, 100mg caffeine, and 30mg dmaa

>>39741838
>>39741839
>>39741898
Ahhh I see, thanks guys I'll have to try it on my next cut as part of ECA.

still haven't tried dmaa either but find that I don't really need a PWO stim so probably won't until I'm cutting again

>>39741725
depends, high carb + high sodium. you gonna bloat
low carb + high sodium, no.

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>>39741908
You like high dose dnp with minimal cardio and lifting right?

>>39741953
Worked great for me, ~15lbs in 1 week and 2 days building up from 500mg to 1g. And two of those days I ate 5,000 calories and a whole pizza each day because fuck it, kek

coincided with my deload week so it kinda worked out anyway

I'll probably just stick to fork putdowns and ECA next time around though, I just wanted to hit my goal weight by a deadline so I could blast again

I'm about to start TRT next month. Very excited. But I want to add some compounds on top of my TRT dose eventually. Anyone do that?

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>>39741967

>entering 4th month of perma cut
>reading this

>natty life

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The hell is going on in the world rn.

Little doom and gloom ahead of the holidays, literally crashing into fucking Christmas markets and killing people. It's hard to even write that shit and go there in your mind, but this is the real shit now, jack.

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>>39741985
it was brutal though, walking 10 feet had me winded like I just ran a marathon

I had to buy new sheets after that week and flip my mattress over

this was during 30 degree weather, too

>>39741971
I'm not on prescribed TRT but currently on a cruise dose of test with other compounds for 6 months as a prolonged 'blast' slightly over maintenance calories

>unrelated

would you degenerates watch me and this girl live stream painting a giant mural while tripping/rolling our fucking faces off while naked?

we both agreed we like to be nude tripping so said fuck it we'll just start off that way anyhow

just gotta approach the streaming with her now, kek

>>39741990
Watch how everyone in the world is going to update their fb pic with a german flag

can't wait

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>>39742012
And people say you're a bad trip.

>>39741990
Donno dude, I'm just choosing to ignore it all and not let it affect me since it's nothing I can currently control. Gonna go to Europe anyways.

>>39742047
I can't wait to be somewhere cozy in France when the next terror attack hits them and have all my FB friends who don't give a shit about me start shitposting my wall pretending like I'm some kind of saint who's death would be a tragic world event.

>>39742067
What are you trying to find in europe?

Also france is a really beautiful country if you know where to loook. Skip Paris though

>>39741971
Figure out how often your doc is going to ask for bloods

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>>39741967
I'm gonna try to lose around 15lbs on just 200mg crystal a day plus psmf/keto and cardio and weights. Goal is crazy fat loss with no sides.
>>39741990
Huh?

Last day before my dnp/mast/tren cut hopefuly adding the dnp wont kil me

What should i eat for dinner before i go back to eating eggwhites and broccoli for a month?

>>39742067
t b h hope my shitty 1080p webcam can keep up with the intensity of the degenerate drugged up fuck session painting this mural will become

>>39742130
should easily be doable. Go up to 250 crystal if you can, unless your pills are dosed at 200. 250 I had zero sides whatsoever, felt totally fine. Just extend it to about 3 weeks in length, 3 weeks and a couple days to account for buildup in the blood stream if you'd like.

>>39742132
thai food

>>39742119
Culture, new foods, wine, beer, sexy women, parties, festivals, music, good friends, go from semi fluent Spanish to fluent during 6 months in Spain, explore the world as a ripped 20 something year old riding a motorcycle.

I'm going to stop by in paris because I have friends there, and I promised I'd go to the redlight district in Momarte. I'm not planning on spending an extended period of time there though, I'd like to go through most of north france during my first 3 months, head to Spain for 6, then come back and visit Corisca and all of south France before going to Italy.

>>39742146
Honestly avoiding carbs is enough to mitigate pretty much al sides under 500mg unless you have an alergy

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>>39742146
Ya they are pre made at 200. Kinda want to sell dnp but I feel like it's asking for trouble.
But ya forgot to say 10-14 days of psmf and dnp. Should be ez mode from what I have read.

>>39742146

>too bitch made to post his face
>gonna post a sex tape

u won't

>>39742148

I bet you'll have the most fun in spain.

After my trip to the UK, I swore to myself I wouldn't leave US soil ever again tho.

And if you can't trust a promise to yourself... who can you trust?

>>39742172
I want a qt euro ginger woman who's got an insane sex drive and wants to leave everything and travel the world with me. IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK?

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>>39742165
500 gave me shitty carb cravings, whereas 250 didn't really. That's the only reason I would recommend sticking to 250 for a low and slow protocol, otherwise you're right

>>39742171
I've heard negative things about PSMF and Keto on DNP, personally I always at at maintenance with a roughly 50% carb, 35% protein, 15% fat macro ratio. Worked well but the sweats were fucking intense

>>39742172
I'd do it since it'll accomplish something, like at least there's some entertainment value attached to it at that point, right now it would just be pointless t b h

Why does psmfing always feel easy and fine for the first few days, then day 4 is bad, and day 5 you feel like you want to die

i was pretty depleted beforehand already from cutting so i don't think that's it either

>>39742195

You know, my attitude has always been that if you get it, it clearly wasn't too much to ask now was it?

Good luck natT.

I believe

>insane sex drive

you should know by now that every woman has insane sex drive, it's just a matter of how attracted they are to you

you know, from all the qts throwing themselves at you 10x per day?

>>39742233
I am not even hungry. in fact i feel as if im going to vomit right now, im really nauseous. i feel like i can't move too and my head hurts