/Fraud/ Steroid General

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>>39658644
in4 jerry and pure waifus

>>39658662

>tfw would only date pure 3d girl at this point
>not pure 2d waifu is ok

idk what's up with me

3d girls just pigu disgusting when not pure

but 2d still cute

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second for anime

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>>39658644

Am I gonna fuck my endocrine shit up permanently if I roid at 20? I always hear people say to wait till 23 or wait till 25, or some shit

>Lifting for 1.5 years
>~12% bf, not entirely sure
>Age 20

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>>39658710
s-same

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>>39658644
>>39658662
>>39658710
>>39658712
>>39658728

>>39658644
Yuki~


>>39658715
I did my first cycle at 22 and came out fine.

Just get bloodwork done. You look good atm.

Honestly its safer to wait a coupla more years, but if youre absolutely deadset then its PROBABLY going to be fine. Jus make sure you do everything right

>>39658728

Thanks for the image, reminded me to stay single and fuck okcupid sluts and just have anime waifu.

Yeserday at the gym I saw some little girl, like 5 -6, so happy, and made me really want kids.

My business is blowing up so hard. More money every day. I've been seriously thinking about having them.

Then I see stuff like this and it's a reminder to keep lifting and working and disregard relationshits

WHEN WE ARTIFICIAL WOMB???

If that shit isn't invented in the 20 years it's gonna be super depressing desu

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>>39658893
you're welcome anon

what sort of business do you run?

>>39658923
please ignore the garbage rummaging laptop seller

>>39658937

I'm going to stop putting fucking spaces in between every single sentence that I write and you're not going to be able to call me out so easily anymore.

>>39658923

gayforpay, bottom only

>>39658923
>>39658728

Jesus fuck, Im not sure if you're jaded or im naive

>>39658893
As a 22yo living check to check, i'm jealous of your $

>>39658945
As a completely straight man, how difficult would it be for me to swallow my pride and then swallow some dick for g4p? Is it worth the money? How good does my body have to be?

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>>39658945
>gayforpay, bottom only
respect

>>39658948
>Jesus fuck, Im not sure if you're jaded or im naive
little column a, little column b

>>39658948

the second one. I spend too much time here, my life is a meme at this point.

>>39658948

just because you're living check to check now doesn't mean you will be forever, next year, or any other year

Do you have a car? Drive to some rich suburbs, go to their 'recycling' facilities. There should be a computer section. Rich people are insane. They throw out $250 laptops because they have a virus. Throw out TVs you can sell for $100 on craiglist because they bought a $5000 tv and don't need it anymore.

that's what I started out. Then my daddy got me into this business through 100% nepotism.

nepotism smuggest feel

>>39658959

I'm meming I sell off lease laptops

like I said >>39658985

Daddy's nepotism was the only reason I go the connects to get into this, but the capital came from dumpster diving. >>39658985

I just don't want to pull a NotOP and 'Man anyone can get rich just go to the gold course and meet people'

honesty=key

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>>39658985
>>39658997

Holy shit thats actually a really good idea. I'm so going to try this.

/fraud/ is best general by far, I love ya'll

tfw there's no way to have a decent haircut without having to spend time styling it in the morning with product and shit

why is looking nice so complicated?

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>>39659142
i don't know you tell me

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>>39659136

I was making more in one day of that than I did in one week of washing dishes

>fraud best general

no shit sherlock

>>39658644
REMINDER:
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Real men don't use -- or need -- steroids.
/thread

>>39659142

This is a lie, my hair gets loads of compliments and all i do is let it dry naturally then spray dry shampoo in it

i never even wash it


>>39659192
Damn, you got us... AGAIN...

WHEN WILL WE LEARN?!

>>39659207
I doubt it m8

post haircut

>>39659142
also tfw i have not gotten a haircut in around 2.5 months

my dad (who is mentally unstable but not in the dumb illogical kind of way, really just the bipolar kind of way) was like "son you need to get a haircut, it's getting ridiculous, especially the neck"

but i don't even give a shit. my face looks retarded enough who gives a fuck if i cut my hair

i wear a hat everywhere anyway

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>>39659248

>tfw you figure out glands real identity

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>>39659235
Here ya go,

It needs a lil trim and I havent slept in 2 days so be gentle fampais

>>39659280
You could have at least picked someone who was disgusting looking, or some kind of fucked up animal

Also ok I am done. Fuck retail WoW it sucks dick. Just get fucking mongod over and over by retards backpeddling with their 2 button MOBA melee classes

Time to find a different way to waste my life until my inevitable suicide

>>39659248
I wonder what kind of irreparable mental damage these glands have done to you

like are you even going to get your confidence/self-esteem back after this long of being a depressed beta fucker? probably not

>>39659290
>this
>no product
nigga please, there's no way that holds otherwise

>>39659290

u got forward head posture really bad

I have it too

Not sure how to fix.

What's the deal with your acne, any progress? No fap has helped me.

I would cut out dairy but I have a 10lb bag of whey

>>39659297
>like are you even going to get your confidence/self-esteem back after this long of being a depressed beta fucker? probably not

I did it, why can't he.

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>>39659297
I use dry shampoo and thats it. Pic related is what I use. I go literal months before I wash my hair, so I assume that my natural oil helps a bit, and the dry shampoo gives it an amazing texture as well

>>39659298
Ya dude my posture and acne are shit because I havent slept in 2 days. Skin generally looks a lot clearer, and im also in the middle of an isotretinoin cycle and thats starting to clear up my backne which is nice

>>39659318
>havent slept in 2 days.

But what about your gains senapia

Anyways yeah, my sleep pattern has been so fucked up. 3 hours a night, sleeping at 6 in the morning, all sorts of fucked up shit

I know it's murdering my gains but I can't seem to help it

You been busy with work or what?

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>>39659298
ALSO if you haven't tried it already, you can buy benzyl peroxide cream from a pharmacy that works amazingly on individual pimples

It comes in 2.5%, 5%, and 7.5% strengths. Try the 5% first


>>39659329
Usually im pretty good, 8hrs solid sleep a night so im not too worried about this weekend. My best mate recently moved interstate and he just came back this weekend so I was just spending as much time as possible with him. Dropped him back at the airport and now I'm waiting till a reasonable time to go to sleep so that I dont screw up my pattern too bad

>sleeping at 6 in the morning
It doesnt really matter WHEN you sleep, i think what matters is the consistency and duration of sleep. Just try get 8 hours, even if it is 5am - 1pm every day

>>39659352

See I don't get individual pimples too much, more just blackheads and clogged pores all over my face.

Once in a while a nice big zit comes in.

Also on sleep, the problem is, that it's hard to keep track of what is one day when your sleep pattern is that fucked. Like I'll sleep for 3 hours, wake up, work for 3 hours, lift, eat,... go back to sleep for 3 hours.

I keep waking up after sleeping for 4 or 5 hours. Sometimes 3. Recent devolpment. Not sure why it's happening.

I bought some melatonnin. Got me asleep for 6.

I'm trying not to fuck up my shit but it's so hard.

Routine, sure, follow it, diet, ok,, follow it, lifting? Just go and lift.

But sleep seems to be the hardest part, for me at least. I can't make myself sleep for 8 hours. It's not a willpower problem, it's just actually fucking difficult

>>39659376
If it's blackheads, just exfoliating shit I guess? Not too sure about that one.

Theres a bunch of shit you can get from pharmacies that should knock you out for extended periods. Im not sure if the brand names are the same, but if im having difficulty, I have polaramine, restavit (this shit will make you feel groggy the next day, but I could sleep for like 16h), and DPH (this is benadryl, a syrup antihistamine used to treat allergies but will also knock you out.)
Come to think of it, any antihistamine that isnt non-drowsy should knock you out. You might have to jump through some hoops to get it tho.
If youve got any benzos then you could use those to help as well, valium, xans etc. Opiates are also great, but i prefer to stay awake when I eat those just bc its fun (pls no bully)

Benzos will help you a LOT if the issue is a stress/anxiety problem.

Has anything in particular changed in your life that mightve caused difficulty sleeping?

>>39659297
Haven't even been working out, just can't bring myself to do it. The only reason I'm still alive is because the chance of fixing this shit is still non-zero.

I should know by either thursday or friday if I am gonna have to kill myself since I think that's when I go back to the specialist with my new blood work and MRI results.

If he gives me bullshit about waiting it out or says it's "normal" I'll just say fuck it and kill myself that same day/night. I already encrypted all my shit in preparation for it, lol. No need for faggots to go through all my dumb shit after I'm dead lel

Although I will probably want to get rid of my roids and shit first, so they don't go around blaming muh evil steroids for everything

Would draining my blood in a hot bath even work, using a 21g butterfly needle? It shouldn't have the coagulation problem like I did when I drained my blood, because I stole it from the place that drew my blood, and it flows fast as fuck with those apparently. Like would I actually die or would the blood somehow stop, even with a butterfly needle while submerged in hot water

>>39659404

It's like every pore in my skin is clogged. Weird. Blackheads all over.

Ex gf used to have some fixation with removing them. Would remove them from every pore on my face one by one kek.

>drugs drugs drugs

I recently moved back in with my parents because DESU I was happier living with them than alone, missed them, etc.

Plus now mommy washes my dirty undies, is nice feel. I broke up with live in GF, got sick of taking care of myself honestly, mom is replacement.


Only problem is I can't exactly bring home some benzos or opiates, for sure they would realize I was on or find them (I'm clumsy)

>LOT if the issue is a stress/anxiety problem.

Funny enough it's not a stress or anxiety problem. I don't have any. Super happy.

The only thing causing me stress is I worry my fucked up sleep (as of late) is costing me all my gains which is stressing me.

>changes in my life

Nah I've been living in mommy's basement for like ages now man

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>>39659413
>so they don't go around blaming muh evil steroids for everything

I mean, if the steroids DID cause the swollen glands...

>>39659413

>kill myself

Can you not though? I'd rather see people in the general I frequent to succeed/be happy.

Nevermind the sheer stupidity that your glands are going to stop you from being happy with other facets of your life

If you told your doctor that you're taking shitty chinese bathtub steroids would they give you proper ones for harm reduction?

Like giving junkies methadone instead of heroin

>>39659425
Yes I am the sole person in the world who gets swollen glands from even 100mg of testosterone a week

>>39659426
You walk around with 1/2 baseball sized lumps behind your jaw and 1/2 golf ball sized lumps under your jaw and chin

Bet you would get suicidal from being hideously disgustingly disfigured after a while too

Most people recommend that a beginner cycle be 500 mg per week for the average first time user. If the average first time user is, say. 175lbs and of average height, but I'm 6'10" and already 350lbs, should I up the dose for my first cycle to achieve the same concentration of hormone in my body?

>>39659433
if you're so intent on doing this why not just find a crooked endrocrinologist to give you all the /fraud/ you want?

>>39659444

No dude I wouldn't

Take pride in your physique or literally anything else

No one is perfect

Stop being such a faggot glands

I'll be personally disappointed in you if I ever hear from your dumbass again

>>39659447

>I'm 6'10" and already 350lbs

Bro you can't use test unless you're really lean because test aromtizes into estrogen in fat

You gotta cut now then use it

Anyways yeah bigger you are more gear you need but 500mg is a large dose anyways so...

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>>39659435
You were only on 100mg test?

>>39659419
Thats weird. Try seeing a GP? There's also shit like facemasks/pore dirt removal strips if you can be fucked

I'd suggest a GP for your sleep problem too but they'd probably give you the same advice I am. Have you tried all the basic shit like turning off all electronics, creating a before-bed routine, not using any screens for 30mins before you sleep etc?

>Only problem is I can't exactly bring home some benzos or opiates
Okay so thats fine, the antihistamines would be fine though, especially the polaramine or restavit, theyre pills and not abusable at all. If you get questioned about them you can just say you had hayfever or some shit and the pharmacist gave it to you

I'm jealous of you moving back in. Ive been living out of home for 4 years now (im 22) and I for sure miss home cooked dinners. Plus just being able to hug my mum whenever I want is amazing. I love my mum.

>>39659447
Yep, I'd go like 700mg p/w maybe. Are you REALLY 6'10" 350lbs though? Bf%? Pics? Fuckin mirin' man (unless you're fat?)

>>39659444
Nice trips, glandsman. Have you posted a face pic before? Can you? Ive seen the upclose pics of the glands, i'd like to see your current face though to see if it really is as bad as you say it is

>>39659478
No he took what his seller give him as 'tren' but it turned out that it wasnt tren at all,and they said it was a 'mistake' so they gave him real tren.
God knows what did he shoot into his ass.

>>39659478
>Nice trips, glandsman. Have you posted a face pic before? Can you? Ive seen the upclose pics of the glands, i'd like to see your current face though to see if it really is as bad as you say it is

This.

If you're going to kil yourself where's the harm in posting your face

>Have you tried all the basic shit like turning off all electronics, creating a before-bed routine, not using any screens for 30mins before you sleep etc?

Yeah except the before bed routine.

Just do the same (non screen) activity every day yeah?

I'll look into the antiistamines.

>>39659470
>>39659478
I'm a fatty fat fat fat but I don't give a shit about aromatization since I'll have an AI and I'm lifting for strength not aesthetics so bf% doesn't matter that much to me

>>39659526

GET OUT OF MY GENERAL FATTY

WE AESTHETIC GODS ITT

>>39659290
N U M A L E
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>>39659507
I prob will if I kill myself which again depends on what I hear on thursday/friday when I go back to the specialist

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>>39659543
Heard worse, post your own pics?

>>39659526
Ok, if its purely for strength and you dont give a fuck about sides then just run halo or some shit

>>39659550
Run me through why having an ugly face makes you wanna die?

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>3 years
>16% / 84kg
>20

was going to use test enanthate 500mg/w for 16 weeks for first cycle, with aromasin for AI, want to throw 40mg dbol per day in for the first 4 weeks as a kickstart, how much would i need to adjust AI for the dbol since it's regarded as a pretty wet oral?

>>39658644
One of you guys should make a paste bin it'd really help.
A Few questions

I'm 25
20% bf
Only been lifting for 5 months so I'm at dyel mode

Would using gear to just speed up the process not be a more logical choice compared to spending a full year making less gains?

Also one thing scaring me about roids is PCT anyone have any experience getting the drugs you need for PCT are they hard to come by? Not asking for a source just wondering how you handled it.

>>39659555
I mean I care about sides, I don't want to fucking die before I'm 40

but yeah I already have tiddies

>>39659566
pct meds are easier to get than the roids themselves, and roids are REALLY easy to get. every ugl sells their own ancilliaries, or you can go to various online pharmacies. the meds aren't illegal, they're just prescription based so shit isn't hard to get through customs (they don't know whether you have a prescription or not)

most people will tell you not to roid early. make your own choice and make sure you've properly researched everything

>>39659559

insecurity

>>39659566

dont roid at 20% bf

dont roid if you've been lifting for 5 months

your shit is fucking stupid dude

>Would using gear to just speed up the process not be a more logical choice compared to spending a full year making less gains?

Your tendons and shit need a year to get used to lifting and putting on muscle.

You can counteract this by taking memek but it's still retarded

You need to be lean to use gear or estrogen and increased need for AI

what is with all these fatties wanting to hop on

>>39659555

This. He is too much of a little pussy bitch to post his own pics. So he's gonna sit there and and call you out while hiding.

Sad.

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>>39659566
You dont wanna use roids at 20%bf, your sides will be very bad. Cut first, make sure you can consistantly keep your diet/training/sleeping on point, then think about jumping on.

I got my PCT and AI from the internet, it seemed pretty easy in my experience. You can also source through doctors and pharmacies if youve got friends

>>39659567
I mean, breh. At that weight you can still eat a lot and lose weight. Why not run clen/dnp/duramine/nothing and drop weight before hopping on? Are you that impatient? Lifting isnt a race my man. Play shit like this safe.
In any case, if youre still deadset on hopping on, I'd start at 500mg pw of a short testosterone ester so that you can adjust it higher if you need. Theres no point using test-E if you want to adjust the dosage, as by the time you figure out you want to increase the dose its already week 8 or some shit.
Just make sure you have plenty of AI and PCT on hand and ready

>>39659559
I have said this 500 fucking times because it is not fucking "ugly" it is fucking deformed. Whenever a relative saw me for the first time since it happened, without fail they always said shit like "oh my GOD what is that" or "wow what is that it's massive!" And even my obese disgusting mother said she can't stand looking at my face like this anymore

I don't wanna kill myself but if I can't get rid of this then I have no choice. Fucking such bullshit

>>39659600
Nigga if your family is saying shit like this then you need to be questioning if you really want to be spending time around them.

Show pics? Im sure its not that bad. And besides, people live happy and successfully with far worse than a deformed face.

>>39659595
lmao, this "you need to be lean" shit is retarded

i've run gear at 20% and needed literally no more AI than otherwise, and have never had any estro sides. how the fuck do you think high level powerlifters run gear if cycling at higher bf% levels is so damn dangerous

>>39659618

If you ever bothered to cut (you never will) you'd discover how much gyno you have

And no, PCT won't cure it at the level you have it

>>39659618
Who tf said it was dangerous? All people say is that the sides will be worse, which is true.

>high level powerlifters run gear if cycling at higher bf% levels

implying all elite powerlifters are fat

implying ANY elite powerlifter cycles

Please read some more before you post again.

>>39659631
>that natty cuck offering advice in /fraud/

I can spot you

a lot of elite powerlifters cycle, yes. pretty much every single one in tested federations in fact. that's not even what the guy you quoted was saying anyway

>>39659716
nice strawman my buddy

>>39659600
I've seen your face nigger,you are not 'deformed'.

>>39659727
that's not what a strawman is by any kind of definition

did you mean ad hominem? because I also answered your retarded argument, so that doesn't work either

>>39659727
kill yourself illiterate nigger

>>39659747
>>39659744
>>39659742

This thread was civil until you woke up and logged into your moms computer. Time for school soon?

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>>39659766
3 different people my man

>>39659789
3 different schoolkids my dude

>>39659792
just remember that it's obvious when you post your natty cuck bullshit in my thread

>>39659815

>no natties in my secret club
>all natties are idiots

Ur a walking talking meme

>>39659849
if I can identify you as natty when you post, it should be obvious that yes, it does make you an idiot

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>>39648404
Im new to supplements (I've only taken whey so far), I was thinking of getting something to increase my current height 6'1 so I assume I'm looking for HGH , right ? Is mk677 a good drug to start on for increasing HGH production ? (Recently turned 18 so I'm sure I'm still growing)

>>39659899

gtfo cap

Swear to god

>hey guys is mk677 good

>trip on

>yeah it's the best what's your email I'll sell u some!

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HAHAHAAHHAAHHA AHHAHAHAH
THAT LAST THREAD LMAO.

>>How long did it take for a body like >>39651288 (You)? I want to go for a bit less than that.

>he thinks i took steroids to look like that
>he doesnt realize i did that within 1 year of lifting with shitty diet

AAHHAHAAHAHHAAHAH HAAHHAAH YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT SENPAI

>he wants to take steroids to look less than that
>than that
>fucking that

FKN LMAO, KILL YOURSELF YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF HUMAN GARBAGE

>>39659924
Im just asking what are good supplements that will inreace or stimulate HGH growth, and if anyone here has experience or advice

>>39659964

Hate the cuck attitude man.

>what's the easiest way with the least effort to easy easy easy I'm lazy look at me

Also.

>implying he would even get to your 1 year natty body with roid

Doubt it with his attitude

>>39659899

>getting meme'd this hard

>>39660000
I don't get how I'm being >memed
HGH increases height growth and there are drugs with HGH , am I missing something ?

>>39660023

brain cells

common sense

this is coming from a guy with a 2 digit IQ so you know you fucked up hard

Second cycle advices please!

So this subforum is a joke right?
People cant actually be destroying themselves with steroids because of the insecurities society pushes on them...
Heart to heart. Human to human.. you all are perfect the way you are and dont need to be shooting this poison in your veins. I know society is harsh on all genders these days to look "perfect". But we are perfect. For beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I wish you all best of luck and to escape your drug ridden abyss that has become your life.

>>39660023
Holy fuck lmao complete retard bro.

>>39660544
fuck off fat retard

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>>39660023
there are several problems bro


you never know if your growth plates are closed or not, some people stop growing at the age of 15
finding legit hgh in the first place
if you find it, affording it
okay so ur a rich boy and bhought 4 vials, great
are you rich enough to afford it for the next 3 years?
paying all that money and shooting hgh for years, and then you still dont have a guarantee that it will actually make you grow

oh and

>wanting to grow taller when you are already 6'1"
kek kys

you could cut of a part of your legs tho so you can dwarf down to 5'11" master race

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>>39660544

>>39660544
nice b8

Anyone want to get creampied?

>>39660789
Can you even reach deep enough for that

>>39661000
t. virgin

nice trips tho

>>39660583

>tfw gonna start watching DBZ so I can bantz with moosey about it

>>39660789
I've fapped to so much creampie porn today - I was scrolling through and your post stood the fuck out.

>>39661240
>porn

>not doing nofap/noporn and saving it for a qts walls

>>39661266
I'm not big enough yet.

t. insecure lanklet

>>39661240
Thats pretty beta of you.
It was probably cuck creampies wasnt it? you weak, weak, man.

>>39659290
Loose those fucking ugly glasses

>>39661297
http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph57ead96066033

Not even close little buddy, nice projection though.

How do you find a place to get bloodwork done?

>>39659600
yo can you post your swollen glands? I really want to see what it looks like

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>>39661266
Bruh I would paint a wall right now with my jizz. Nofap for 3 weeks plus hcg, lecithin, celery, and pygeum

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>>39661359
Privatemdlabs

>>39659560
Just take Asin on pin days and feel it out. If you bloat take it a bit more often. You may not even need AI. I don't need it even when I'm on 1g test and 100mg Dbol.

>>39660544
Glands, your mom found /fraud/

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>trying not to drink
>only went days

Fuck me
Atleast ill have to stop once I start pmsf

>>39661523
Are you saving up for me?
Fill me up and teach me what its like to be a woman. No homo.

>>39660578
>wanting to grow taller when you are already 6'1
I'm 6'3 and want to be taller all the time. Lol

>Tfw not 7'6"

>>39662315
>Fill me up and teach me what its like to be a woman
You never did send me those dress pics bb.

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>>39662475
Lmao

>>39662588
You gotta send pics with you in them bb.

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>>39662315
>Fill me up and teach me what its like to be a woman. No homo
M-maybe.

Inb4 Jerry is playing us all, the estrogen stuff was for his THICC gf that has a body like a Roman god and the dresses are for her too. He's really rockin a 10x8 too.

>>39662879
That would be great. Playing the long con.

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EggMcmuffins

>>39662806
Never
Good thing i have shrunken roid balls or they would hang out the purple one

>>39662879
Im literally big ramy

>>39663384
I was thinking of getting some sausage ones but i shouldnt drive

>>39663384
mcgriddles are superior

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>>39663432
The sausage ones taste better but I can feel myself getting fatter by the second when I eat them lol.
>>39663448
>mcgriddles
Vomit.jpg

>>39663513
Bruh its mcdonalds
Like your artificial egg and strangely high in protein bread is so much better without the sausage

>tfw no more dollar mcdoubles
Donald, why have you forsaken me?!

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>5 years with lots of goofing around, breaks and injuries
>bf 20-30% not sure
>21

this may seem funny to you, but if I do few moderate cycles to reach what would be my natural potential and then stop steroids can I call myself a natural?
I should lose the extra muscle mass and definition with time, right?

I really like being natural but I also need some extra support. I already did two ostarine cycles and it did wonders for my joints and recovery. Im addicted to the gym and without roids I cant really keep up with my workouts.
However, there is something I really like about being a natural, nothing against roids but I want to be able to proclaim Im natural.

pic for attention

>>39663710
>this may seem funny to you, but if I do few moderate cycles to reach what would be my natural potential and then stop steroids can I call myself a natural?
No one is going to care. You will not be a natural but most normies will not know the difference if you just say "I'm really dedicated and pay close attention to diet/sleep"

>I should lose the extra muscle mass and definition with time, right?
If you want to speed this up, just stop lifting after you PCT

> I want to be able to proclaim Im natural.

There are tons of frauds who proclaim they are natural on youtube and shill sites promoting crazy diets etc. you can pull it off

>>39663710
holy fucking shit you're way too fat to roid
and too young wait till 25
you'll get hella gyno and want to kill yourself
LOSE WEIGHT

>>39663710
Oh shit, I missed your bf% as pointed out by >>39663769

6 months of fork putdowns before you can roid

Cruise dose might be okay, but you gotta watch your estro

>>39663710
>can I call myself a natural?
Why do you care?

>Im addicted to the gym and without roids I cant really keep up with my workouts.
What do you mean by this? Progressing too slow so you want to hop on steroids as a shortcut and act all high and mighty as a natural after? Lose the fat, then consider roiding. If you hop on now you can wave your joints goodbye

>>39663710
>can I call myself a natural?
You can call yourself whatever you want.

I myself am natty cause < 3g is natty.

Im 18 and have been Lifting for 3 years now bf is ~18
Has anyone any idea how i get into Powerlifting? Tips in General would be apreciated

>>39663785
Grams of testosterone and orals 2 weeks before the meet

>>39663785
not powerlifting general
go there instead
also if you want to roid, drop your bf to about 10 so you don't gyno af

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>>39663590
I dunno I think the regular ones with the ham slice and no butter are pretty healthy actually

Curious about the too fat to roid thibg. How do powerlifters and pro strongman avoid aromatizing do they have some secret meds? Hall and benni and thor are all pretty chunky so what do they do that us mortals can't do? Genetics?

>>39663859
if they ever cut, you'd see their tits

injecting sterons and not working out general

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fuck me im a fucking disgusting piece of shit.

i have the ENTIRE FUCKING DAY to do minor obligations, BUT NO i wait 1 hour before i have to get to sleep before i start doing them and end up with 7 hours of sleep at the end.

its the same fucking shit everytime and i just dont do it any different.

someone shoot my worthless self, i deserved for the imbecile i am

>>39663913
no u

>>39661961
bimbo stop memeing the beginners

>>39663859
it's a lot of retarded parroting

yes, fat aromatizes more, but it doesn't mean you can't roid, it just means you'll potentially need more AI (genetics matter even more than bodyfat). there's also the fact that you get more out of a cycle/blast if you're lean because you can fully bulk, but that doesn't really matter when you're lifting for strength

what do roid

"So what we do is I find someone I'm interested in and we meet up and have sex on camera. I then take that film to my boyfriend to use as he see fits. And that's basically it. The rules are as follows: everything is filmed, no off camera anything, no dating or any relationship business at all, no copies of the video, and be respectful of the two of us. As long as you follow the rules you're golden.

And pulling out is up to you really."

>>39664258
Get it in writing. I'd be worried about them selling it or making copies.

>>39664258
really sounds sketchy

>>39664283
id wear a mask and bring my glock

>>39664299
its off fetlife, so not too odd for there

>>39664258
Cum deep in her

>>39664258
you know people into cuck fetish shit want big dicks right? the goal is to emasculate the man and make him feel like he can't please his woman because he has a smaller dick

she's literally going to kick you out

>>39664348
the bf is a fedora indian cuck m8, think ill be fine regardless of cock size

guys i have to do my homework and i have to lift today
stop talking about porn its distracting ree

>>39664360
>bf is indian faggot
>stoya is thinking about fucking his gf
>that means the gf must be somewhat hot
>an ugly faggot indian has a hot gf

wew

Is it a meme to only count protein from meat towards your protein requirements due to the lack of lysine and shit in non meat sources

>>39664567
it's a woman into cuckolding shit on fetlife

there is a 0% chance of her being attractive

>>39664578
Cuz I am having to eat way too much chicken and shit relative to my other food, since I am eating maintenance calories while completely sedentary. Basically like half my calories are from chicken it's fucking annoying

>>39664578
>>39664591
why do u care arent u gonna an hero anyway

>>39664607
it's like 50/50 at this point. if the specialist says ignore it, wait it out, or some other bullshit like that, i will. but if he says they can be fixed then nope, time to live it up

>>39664578
yes its a meme, most "protein sources" have all essential amino acids in them, just varying amounts of each
why would you care so much about lysine?

>>39664654
idk just some broscience i have heard

i think it was in some thread arguing about veganism, and how even if they got their protein from stupid ass beans and stuff, that they would never get gains because of their diet lacking certain amino acids that are only found in meat

>>39664666
lots of vegan foods have a complete amino acid profile, beans and lentils for example

>>39659142
not true if your hair retains enough natural oil, it will style itself.

>>39664717
i find that shampoo actually just fucks up my hair badly and makes it flat, dry, and dead looking. conditioner does this also and it's twice as bad

if i don't shampoo it, disgusting as it sounds, it looks 100x as good

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>>39664717
>>39664734
I wash my hair twice a week tops. Use a clay pomade that's pretty bad ass and looks very natural. Definitely used to wash my hair way way too much.

>>39664734
do you need those glands to be alive? cant they just cut that shit out like the skin cancer of piano man.

>>39664734
>>39664792
exactly. most people who have a hard time styling their hair and use tons of product to get it to look nice have never let the natural oils do their job.

Besides deadlifts, I don't hit my back with much "heavy" work (in reference to %RM and rep ranges) and stick to 8-15 rep sets instead – I feel like my form suffers too much if I drop below 8 reps, and my lower back gets too fatigued.

Anything wrong with this?

>>39664953
cheat form builds the best backs brah

>>39664871
Doing that will render me almost completely unable to produce saliva, and also runs an extremely high risk of permanently paralyzing the muscles in my face

So nope

>>39664792
accept my mk offer pls

My friend is not serious about his training.
He is fat (120 kg at 1.82 cm).
He drinks and have shitty diet.
He cycles test atm.
Which side effects are he in for in the future?

>>39665074
just buy it from china yourself you fucking cuck

I HATE THIS MEME

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>>39664897
Do you rinse your hair everyday at least? I do just to clean out any old pomade or whatever might be in there but no shampoo.
>>39665074
I just emailed you.
>>39665077
You do know I test everything right?

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>>39664953
Learning to go heavy and keep form will go a long way.
My back may not be cut but is raw mf*** power.
I actually got most of my gains from the past 3 years when i did a powerlidting routine.
Pretty much go in and find your 1rm every other day, sometimes every 2 days. Accessories arent necessary since deadlift and squat work everything.
Only sustained 2 injorys too, slipped a disk in my spine (deadlift heavy or die), and snapped a ligament in my wrist finding my cheat curl 1rm.
Im more of a power boudybuilder .

>>39665113
its all the same shit and you know it

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>>39665130
>its all the same shit and you know it
Not true. For example I haven't had GW for months because the purity sucks and they are cutting it with something or some fuckery. Believe me I wish I had some.

>>39665113
Yeah I rinse my hair every day with cold water. No pomade to rinse out cause my hair naturally looks awesome. Shampoo once every 4-5 days at night and put a few drops of oil in right after.

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>>39665172
>put a few drops of oil in
Is it special hair oil or just olive oil or something?

>>39665197
its synthol

>>39665160
OT please

>>39665160
I pray for pure GW to come to you.

>>39665052
u then need a bane mask

Guys im freaking out. I didnt want to take real steroids so i did these sarms called s4 and i up the dose and my eyes hurt and everything has a yellow hue holy fuck, such a bad headache i havent freaked out this bad in my life i feel like fucking crying

>>39665317
just be yourself dude

>>39665317
jajajajajajaja

>>39665317
stop taking it and try to survive. The vision problems should go away.

>>39665317
thank you for posting this, made my day. i love this

>>39665343
hold on
do your salivary glands still work??
i was thinking about you (no homo) at work and now i want to know

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>>39665286
Seriously?
>>39665288
You ever style your hair or anything?
>>39665296
>I pray for pure GW to come to you.
It's not looking good...

>>39665356
my mouth is kind of dry but other than that i can still function normally, physically speaking. but that side effect is completely and entirely irrelevant compared to how it affects me aesthetically and thus mentally

>>39665369
>chinks worried about pollution

wat

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>>39665369
I tried for a bit
But since I started blading nope

>>39665327
Will they go away if i just lower the dose again because I still want the gains, i dont wanna lose out on the first cycle gains people say they easily get 15-25 lbs of muscle the first time on s4. I just need to know if ill get those gains at only 100mg everyday instead of 200mg.

>>39665372
i was just wondering if you could still produce saliva or not
you dysmorphic fuck

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>>39665391
>chinks worried about pollution
I know right lmao
>>39665398
Nah man you can do something with it. It's not that bad.

>>39658662
You're a shit.

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>>39665398
>Elevens think that's not Miyu
>Think they can fool me with their lies
Well they can't!
That's totally Miyu!

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>>39665507
Im growing a top knot

>>39665540
Cocona is not mimi!

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Go to pick up food, waitress that always crushed on me before was there and drunk and kept telling me I was pretty and grabbing my dick.

If only my dick worked during pct.. she actually a super qt

Is Jim Stephani's shortcut to size a good program for me to follow?

Age 16+2
Lifting since August
I'm skinny and tall, weigh 63kg and am 183cm tall. Not a lot of muscle but there is some, so I estimate a bf of 10-12 %

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>>39665598
>top knot
Could be cool. No one would dare fuck with a fit dude that had a top knot lol.

For a Test + Deca cycle, with Dbol kickstart and finish of with Anavar, what would the suggested time be fore the break in between the peaks in weeks? Obvs doing bloods throughout cycle, But want some ideas or opinions, t b h

For a Test + Deca cycle, with Dbol kickstart and finish of with Anavar, what would the suggested time be fore the break in between the orals in weeks? Obvs doing bloods throughout cycle, But want some ideas or opinions, t b h

>>39665776
wat

If I ramp up test from 300mg to 600mg, should I wait for itchy nipples/high est sides or start earlier using asin?

Is 12.5mg EOD too much to start with?

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>>39658644
I'm not interested in illegal steroids at all but could someone tell me if I'm low test? Should I see a doctor?
If I am reading this blood test right, its low but not under the bracket?
Not to sure so thought I would ask people that are into this shit.

I'm 22 year old male, 5'11, 83 kg, a little bit fit.
Any help is appreciated.

>Pic related is my blood test results.

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>>39666060
Are you literally girl

>>39666060
low test but not very severely so or nearly enough to get jack shit from a doctor

>muh illegal steroids
if they made food illegal would u be a good little goyim bitch and not eat food? oh man im not interested in illegal food at all, just wondering, am i starving though?

>>39666105
Hahaha what is this?

>>39666105
Its not that theyre illegal that bothers me, I do acid and shit from time to time. I just dont want to be self prescribing myself something that might do me more harm than good. Didnt mean to sound pretentious or anything I have no problem with people doing steroids.
The main issue I looked into this is because I have sleeping issues aswell as mild spats of depression.

>>39666098
The picture and the description both say I'm a male.

So I'm low test then guys? I've been working out for 3 years and I think I look alright.

>>39663384
I agree.

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>>39666146
you are 372ng/dl for reference

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>>39666116
just some comedy gold lel

>filename related

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I was prescribed a few month's worth of this shit. What's the best way to get it in my body?

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in for cuties

>got lil bit of gyno

what do boyos doc said they would go away when i grew up ;_;

>>39666159
Awww. That feels bad.
Gonna book a doctor and should be able to get it sorted next year.

>>39666183
put the whole vial in your mouth and then chew the glass until you die faggot

>>39666192
doctors won't do shit at your levels since you are well within the """"""normal range""""""" especially considering your age

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Hey guys im looking to turn in my natty card but not ready for needles yet to be honest.
Just got this shitty oral for now, what diet and routine should i do?
>lifting 6 months (used to alot back in the old days when i was in high school football as the teams best tight end)
>bf%: looking at a chart i look like im 30% but i have really powerful lifts so probably more like 20% with muscle underneath (which im trying to show off now)
>27 years old.

Got blood work done in mid-November. Doc said my labs looked fine but my T was "a bit high" at 172 ng/dl (6 nmol). Is /fit/ meme-ing me because this thread is giving me the impression that is actually pretty low. I'm getting conflicting info here.

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>>39666249
>not ready for needles yet
>Just got this shitty oral
>looking at a chart i look like im 30%

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>>39666249

>>39666279
are you sure he didn't say "a bit low"? lol
see the chart here:
>>39666159

Is anyone hopping on the legal hgh train?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NkURxgeEsY

>>39666249
lol

>>39666279
it's not "pretty low," it's "killing yourself would be better than living with test levels like that" low

>>39666320
>mix of amino-acids that triggers release of hgh
well that sounds retarded

>>39666249
Any serious replies or all of you just children with thumbs up ur asses?

>>39666339
I feel just fine though?

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>>39666183
Is it hard to tell your family and friends that you are gonna be tranny?

>>39666411
What are you talking about?

>>39666389
are you female or male, serious question

>>39666469
Male.

>>39666389

If you've had those levels all your adult life it would feel normal to you, you don't know what actual normal feels like in comparison

>>39666478
Don't mind the troll. I'm the guy with 12.5.
I will be going to see a doctor about this. I would suggest a second opinion.

>>39666491
That's... actually pretty sharp. Thanks, I learned something.

>>39666508
Will do

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>>39666443
You were prescribed lady hormones so that you could grow lady parts right?

>>39666249
>>39666370

This is bait right?

>>39666521
lady... hormones?

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>>39666582
U so silly anon

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>>39666582
hmu after your done taking it

>>39666508
>>Don't mind the troll.

>retard comes asking for help because he doesnt even know what his bloodwork means
>starts giving advice to someone else on what his bloodwork means

>>39663633
Mcpick two for two my duder. 2 dollars for two glorious mcdoubles.

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>>39666617
U can hit ne up right now bb

Oh wait your dick doesnt work, fagit

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>>39666688
What part of the country? It's $3 for 2 around here lol. I've noticed the pricing is region specific during some recent traveling I did.

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>>39661533
Is there a cheaper test check?

>>39666688

trip on bimbsy

>>39666249

7.5/10


>>39666286

>the only guy that took it hook line and sinker
>must've snagged one of your glands

>>39666704

>tfw dick starting working again

Feels so good man

>>39659964
.

>>39666934
i didnt fall for shit. i am the one that always posts how it is the same retarded autist who thinks its funny to post shit like that over and over

you have to realize how sad it is. the same guy, every day, doing the same thing in this thread

>>39666631
Anything I said that was wrong? Mines low I will see a doctor who is a professional. You should to. The troll I was referring to told him to commit suicide. Now tell me genius, who is offering better advice?

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>>39666249
fucking retarded nigger i swear.

>>39667018
>comes for advice because he has no idea what the fuck he is doing
>then starts telling the people he is seeking advice from what to do

so why don't you fuck off then if you apparently know better than me?

>>39667035
I am better than some cunt that encourages suicide yea.
Your a rotten human.
I don't give a fuck what you know I'm just glad I'm not you.

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>fat enough to need ai on 200mg
Fuuuuuuck

I cant run yey so any cut would be pointless
Fuck

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>>39667052
suicide is always an option anon.


http://pastebin.com/bkXs0khR
take my retarded pastebin and get to learning because test freak is shit and you should be injecting anyways. if you wanna take something legal then scroll down to my recomendation in the pastebin and take that you artarted fuck

>>39667052
>Your
and you have a rotten brain

kill yourself

>I am better than some cunt that encourages suicide yea.
oh no better go cry into grandmommy hillarys rotting fucking pussy, boo hoo lets shed some tears after hearing those mean words on the internet

just popped 60mg frusemide

its boutta get PISSENING

lets see how DEHYDRATED we can get

>>39666608
holy fucking shit.

thanks for catching that. goddamn. why would my doc do that to me?

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>>39667070
Damn dude your shit is still fucked up? How long until you are good?

>>39667125
>why would my doc do that to me?

What symptoms did you tell him you had?

>>39667070
wtf? how is cutting pointless if you are so fat that you cant even fukcing run?

>>39667133
ignore him he's just trolling. the same retard natty that trolls this thread out of his angst for steroids

>>39667144

he can't run because of his SURGERY

JESUS CHRIST GLANDS

>>39667130
Doc said i was good for full activity but would have swelling for 4-6 weeks at the start of November.

But I dont have full rom.
Fuck it ill go for a run after work tomorrow.

>>39667144
I got surgery on my leg thats why I cant run stupid
Smh
But i got my tdee way wrong on my recovery cause I ended up way fat

>>39667159
why dont you just stop eating as much

fuck cardio anyway

>>39667159
why do you even need to run to cut? -_- just eat less wtf

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>>39667170

>fuck cardio anyways

Because there are no possible negative health effects from gaining tons of lean mass, using AAS, and never working on your circulatory system

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>>39667170
>>39667174
If my leg isnt healed enough to run the deficit would be awful for it

>why would you want am extra hour of exercise a day
Smh
I bet you guys run dnp

>>39667186
no of course not

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>>39667170
>>39667174
>what is blood pressure and cardiovascular health
>>39667186
Fuaaaaaa

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>>39667187
I just remembered you never responded to my email jerk!

>>39667187
>I bet you guys run dnp
Nope, i lost 35kg calorie counting without any drugs, its easy shit desu
Probably a good idea to wait till your leg is healed. Though if youre going to run youre just going to make it worse anyway. Plus the whole point of cardio is to put you into a defecit anyway, so I dont really understand what youre trying to accomplish here

>>39667186
>from gaining tons of lean mass
judging from his posts I dont think Jerry's concern is putting and lean mass on

>>39667196
Fuck cardiovascular health, and u can get drugs for blood pressure

>>39667159
What do you do for work jerr?

>>39667219
>fuck cardiovascular health
On 5 August 2011, Shavershian suffered a heart attack in a sauna, while on holiday in Pattaya.[29] He was taken to a hospital, where doctors were unable to revive him.[4][7][13] His family and friends placed news of his death on Facebook. His death was confirmed on 9 August 2011 by the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT).[9] An autopsy revealed a previously undiagnosed congenital heart defect.[9] His family stated he had shown several minor symptoms in the few months leading up to August, including high blood pressure and occasional shortness of breath. He had a family history of heart problems.[9]

>>39667196
he is saying he cannot run. are you arguing being fat is better for your "blood pressure and cardiovascular health" than cutting?

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>>39667262
>He had a family history of heart problems

>>39667214
Fine gosh

>>39667219
Yeah exactly its faster running plus I like running

>>39667225
Tcb
Taking care of business

>>39667288
Neat! I'm an onahole salesman.

>>39667277
>he abused cocaine and other recs
>in a sauna with a genetic heart condition
>and apparently did some retarded shit like 1.4 grams of tren towards the end of his life
>surely if he did cardio he still be alive

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>>39667295
W2c more loli onaholes

>>39667319
I'll flick you an email.

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>>39667331
>buying 2nd hand onaholes off 4chan

>>39658644
>3 yrs
>15-18%
>19
What is a good first cycle? I've seen a mix between a conservative route of 500-600mg test e/w. I've also seen people saying you should blast test deca and a few other compounds.

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>>39667288
Ya its sparse and gay. I got rid of it. Wtf would putting pso on it do?

>>39667371
>15-18%
20-23% confirmed

>>39667371
Wait a few years
Be less fat

500mg test-e per week is gr8

>>39667133
That my workouts weren't making me feel good despite a year of coaching and diet advice and that I have never quite felt like a man.

>>39667447
how are retards falling for this

>>39667447
Did you get blood tests done?

>>39667447
>I have never quite felt like a man
....mmmm hahahahahahahahahah oh my god

>>39667302
apparently he mixed tren and clen.

>>39667447
post boipussy

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>>39667605
You been seeing this Antarctica shit?

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>>39667670
i have senior

google earth

-79.977216, -81.962982

far more intresting then the minor pryamid that nasa found on mars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDhc8WlWcRA

food for thought but this dudes shit is making more sense by the day

lots of content well layed out but take with salt

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>>39658662
ya got me

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>>39667691
I dunno about it making more sense by the day but it is interesting lol.

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>>39667732
def understandable.

theres always new mysteries to be unearthed and understood.

im just trying to do KEKs work and share the knowledge of what i know for the sake of chaos that the laughing god demands

but yeah pizzgate is being called fake news also. and without any counter evidence to disprove our unearthed stuff then it can only be apparent that the media is throwing the spin on it as hard as they did with wikileaks and clitinon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfXWXNItF_Y

Daily reminder you're all degenerate over prideful faggots. Nobody cares about your abs, gains, or insecurities.

degenerate scum.

>>39667759
you obviously do since you're posting here retard

lick my obliques and suck my glands faggot

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>>39667759
>abs
Wrong thread buddy

Sdrol keeps me so full i love it. Since moving I'm running;
Test 500 wk
Tren 600 wk
Sdrol 25 daily

Worth throwing in EQ?

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>>39667748
Ya I dunno about pizza gate. Gigantic mountain of circumstantial evidence but we need a smoking gun. =/
I think at this point any crazy evidence has been disposed of by the affiliated parties so I don't ever see it going anywhere.
I hope this shit gets blown wide open but I'm not holding my breath.

>>39667811
wat

>>39667811
Save it, by the time it kicks in you'll be off the rest.

>>39667834
Those are the drugs I'm running since I moved states. Will I see any benefits from adding in equipoise? Say 800-1200mg/wk

>>39667850
if u want to have a heart attack maybe. lol. eq with tren is already a shitty combo health wise, but with even sdrol too? your bp is gonna absolutely go through the roof if you do that, RBCs and stuff too.

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>>39658966
Someone explain something to me.

If these traits are so attractive to fertile women, why aren't they universal?

Why are there so many men without hypermasculine faces, and that are empathetic and generally not acting like is described in studies like these?

If men with dark triad traits, hyperagressive behavior, big blocky faces and skulls, have such a reproductive advantage, wouldn't the nice guys (actual nice people not desperate "nice guys") with boyish features be a rarity?

It seems like you're much more likely to find a guy that's empathetic, has decent self control, isn't overly aggressive, and looks kinda boyish in some ways. Like Ryan Gosling or Christian Bale look far closer to average (obviously more attractive but you get my point) than someone like Brock Lesnar.

I'm not even saying the studies are invalid, just that there's something unresolved when it shows mating preference for one type of male, while the population seems to be made up of another.

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>>39667811
How much do you weigh and how long on this current blast?

>>39659413
Wouldn't work. Seriously there's like a chart of suicide methods and success rates on Wikipedia.

Best ones are like Gun to face, train, high buildings, or hanging.

Taking pills, gaseous asphyxiation like exit bags and CO poisoning, and cutting are very unlikely to kill you.

>>39667842
Permablast m8

>>39667858
I take more drugs to mitigate sides. Run insane blasts in the past with zero health issues. By the time the EQ hits the sdrol will be long gone. Just wish I had a good source for bold cyp.

>>39667916
6' 3 ~215lbs.
Will be blasting for 5-6 more months.

>>39667811
>>39667850
also height? and i am fucking mirin that skin color, i am pale as shit. do you do anything specific for it? was thinking of getting some melanotan 2 for myself if i dont wind up becoming an hero

>>39667956
bold cyp's too much of a pain in the ass.

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>>39667956
Why don't you take breaks lol.
>>39667965
Sup dewd?

>>39667893

Be the type of male you want to be if you want girls to like you.

Just be who you want to be, when you get there, the pride and confidence of getting there are enough.

If you actually read fucking charts and shit worrying about girls want you have severe autism and insecurity

This is unattractive.

Recently I've started being sort of a dick to girls that I """date"""

This is because I always wanted to be a dick, but I was civil because I (falsely) believed I couldn't be a gigantic asshole and pull girls.

Of course I do better with women now that I am BEIng MYSELF than when I was putting on some act, acting like a normal well adjusted person

To;dr: be yourself

I used to put on acts trying to be normal then I admitted to myself who and what I am and shit goes better for me

>>39667980

He's a fucking drug addict you think he cares about his health?

At least he has a good body by merit of permablast this way

He wouldn't look like he lifted if he just cycled or even b+c

>>39668013
to support this dude, being yourself actually works as long as yourself is desirable
make yourself desirable (height face frame build and being funny all help in my experience)
and dont do ANYTHING *for* a girl, do things with girls, to girls, around girls, but never for. that shit is beta as hell

>>39668013

Not him but I found out I'm rather selfish when we get banging, and I keep tryin to get in there panties even when they're out with their boyfriend or husband. They've naturally stopped talking to me

>>39668035
speaking english helps, you should learn how