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I know most of you guys don't even check the rest of the board, but check my shit.

>>39599445

10/10 recommend. I actually have a jaw now. In not even two months. OF CUTTING.

I GUARANTEE RESULTS!

Anyways, previously on Fraud: We pro bodybuilder now edition:

>>39588960
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in for getting back on the gainz train
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Repostan

My question is simple but retarded:

If i am natty now and followed stronglifts up to 1/2/3/4 and am ready to do 14 weeks test e + dbol on weeks 1 to 6, is there a cookie cutter routine I can jump on to maximize my aesthics?
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In for hot steron qts
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>>39599688
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Fuckin hormones man.
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>>39599810
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>>39599810
wat
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>>39599815
god id fuck ths shit out of that thing
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>>39599815
is this trample chan
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can someone post pics of the dyel masT please
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>>39599845

It's masT's brother dumbass

You'd think 'DYEL ME' filename would be a tip off but no

Or maybe where he writes 'THIS IS MY BROTHER!'
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>>39599890
just post pics of the delusional manlet
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>>39599890
masT pls go
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>>39599899
hes actually over 6 feet tall
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>>39599845
see >>39599815
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>>39599904
well post pics i wanna see his shit genetics
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Any of you degenerate nerds have some dnp tips?
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>>39599923
dont cook yourself to death
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>>39599923
dont go above 500mg daily

dont mix with t3 and clen or suanas

dont mix with diet pills and dont low carb diet with it.

thats basicly what i hear being reposted on here since forever.

but if you want extreme adivce id ask cat piss and swollen
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>>39599923
put 1-2 towels underneath your bedsheets to protect your mattress, unless its already the color of cirrhotic piss

dont wear anything warm to bed, dont eat carbs before bed
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>>39599903

>hurr everyone that likes masT is masT

SICK OF THIS MEME

>>39599920

SHIT GENETICS YET HE WAS BIGGER NATTY THAN 99% OF PEOPLE ON GEAR

LOL
O
L

>>39599899

Who's delusional? The people that try to attack the BIGGEST bodybuilder on a BODYBUILDER FORUM out of JEALOUSY or MasT?

It's like you walked into venture capital firm with 3 nickels and started talking shit.

THATS YOU RIGHT NOW
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>>39599923
it's not nearly as bad as people make it out to be

for me the worst part was being at work, I had no control over the temperature so I'd sweat and be gross all day. otherwise it was pretty much a cakewalk

use your benadryl from day 1, don't wait for rashes to appear. don't get scared if they do, just increase the benadryl and it'll go away as quick as they appeared

sleeping gets you REALLY sweaty for some reason. I took a nap during lunch at work and it was the worst mistake of my cycle... I though the night sweats were just from being hot in my bed, nope, turns out sleeping does the trick
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>>39599979
calm down just post pictures of his shit genetics so I can laugh about it with my friends
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>>39599928
>dont cook yourself to death
I bet I would be fucking delicious though...
>>39599942
>dont mix with t3 and clen or suanas
>dont mix with diet pills and dont low carb diet with it.
I've heard t3 is no problem as is clen or any other diet stuff such as yohimbine or ephedrine. I have taken the last 3ish weeks off ephedrine so it will be nice to get back on with the dnp.
>>39599960
>unless its already the color of cirrhotic piss
There might be some stains... lmao
>dont eat carbs before bed
Already in keto. Plan is 30ish carbs pre workout and that's all the carbs for the day. May bump that up as I can and have gone up to 75-100g carbs a day and stayed in ketosis once I am fully adapted.
>>39599979
>hurr everyone that likes masT is masT
>SICK OF THIS MEME
Is memek747 a meme?
>>39599983
>for me the worst part was being at work
Ya that's what I'm mostly worried about. I don't mind being a sweaty smelly mess at home but I work in an office sooo
>>39599983
>use your benadryl from day 1
I actually thought about doing this but benadryl makes me soooo tired and I would be tired from the dnp too? Sounds like bad times.
>sleeping gets you REALLY sweaty for some reason
Ya I've heard and I HATE sweating when I sleep =(
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>>39599979
>that guy who believes masT's natty pic is actually him natty
wew
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>>39599984

Laugh with your DYEL friends about THIS.

REMINDER that the laugh is COPE for the jealousy and seething anger

ONE DAY I WILL BE SO GARGANTUAN THAT PEOPLE WILL LOOK AT PHOTOS OF MY PHYSIQUE AND FEEL INFERIOR LIKE YOU DO AND FORCED TO TRY AND MAKE THEMSELVES FEEL BETTER

ONE DAY
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>>39600081
post more so we can laugh at more bad genetics pls thank u
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>>39600081
alex stfu, youre dyel and ugly and your jaw still doesnt exist no matter how much you'd like to think it does
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>>39600128

everyone starts as a dyel m8.

Difference between me and this idiot is >>39600125

day by day I get less and less dyel. He instead spends his time laughing at people that made it instead of trying to make it.

>jaw jaw jaw

MIRRIN HARD I SEE.

YOUR JAW WILL LOOK LIKE THAT IF YOU CHEW. CHEW CHEW CHEW.
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does anybody have experiences with Excel Pharma? thinkin about trying their Testex C250
is it g2g?
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>>39600081
MasT needs some direct neck work it's starting to look disproportionate.

Maybe some wrestlers bridges or something.
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>>39600155

delete this post before mod shows up
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>>39600183
when did 4chan became more policed than reddit
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>>39600301
gamer gate issue came over to 4chan and fucked up moot since where the ones with real investigative power.
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>>39600301
It's source talk boyo that shit has always been a ban
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>>39599983

Sounds like lethargy and oversleeping is going to be a problem with DNP. I was thinking of hopping on for 3-4 weeks during winter break since I can afford to be out of it and do nothing .

Gonna start a heavy winter bulk starting mid-January so I wanted to drop as much bodyfat as possible from mid-December for about a month.

Good idea? Bad idea?
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Alright it has been 10 days since I came off 750mg dnp and I am still retaining a fuckload of eater. It is far less than 10 days ago obviously, but it's still there.

What are some tips on dropping this shit faster because this is honestly making me want to kill myself. I usually don't take AI while crusing but I've been taking it for 3-4 days now and still no change in bloat, I only crashed my estrogen.

I've been getting not enough to drink maybe? I've been having less than 40oz some days, average is probably 40 or so oz though.

It's really disgusting feeling, like how the day after you eat chinese food, you feel bloated as shit from all the salt and msg.
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>>39600516
Retaining a fuckload of water** typing from my phone
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>>39600433
I don't plan on more than two weeks on two weeks off cycles.
>>39600516
Alcohol always makes me drop mad water weight.
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>>39599543

So uh, who do you think did the most for sales of AAS of any one person in the world?

Zyzz?
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>>39600678
dorian yates was the first to turn peoples blasts into cruise cycles

everybody whos new is probaly like this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk0ODrja7YQ
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Watched Tonys on rotating diff compounds, basically taking a test base, then 2 days anadrol, 2 days tren ace then 2 days trest ace, 1 day off for the short compounds.

Im curious I want to try it, though perhaps with sdrol, msten or metri instead of adrol.
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>>39599543
I've fallen behind on the most recent /fraud/ memes

Why are we posting this gay porn specifically?
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>>39600836
that's bimbo
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>>39598564
Angsty anon, what are you running? Are you on tren?
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>>39600836
I don't like how I look here. This is better.
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>>39600848
Looks natty to me
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>>39600785
Sounds ridiculous but go for it.
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>>39600948
Supposedly you should be able to avoid the side effects of those compounds - at least the sides that each compound doesnt have in common with the other compounds and can run it longer.

By the time I get around to it, they should have reported back whether its working or not
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>>39600176
Your mothers face looks disproportionate when i fucked in the face

BEHOLD TRUE NATTY POWER
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>>39601031
yo mast, for your natty pics what were you taking to get that lean?
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>>39601188
Winny and clen dawg
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>>39600941
yeah i know
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If I'm starting of my 16 w Test cycle with 5 weeks of Dbol, how long should I wait until adding in Anavar at the end? Weeks in between?
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>>39599676
It's good you set a natty goal before hopping on. As for routine, I think I've seen a Starting Aesthetics thing posted a couple times. You could also just do PPL 2x a week with hypertrophy rep ranges, but ofc you won't keep gaining strength as quickly as before.
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anyone seen testosterone enanthate this clear before?
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>>39601277
Uh lmao anon got fake test
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>>39601285
praise masT
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>>39601285
ive only heard about clear tren before but some google searches gave me the impression that clear test is usual too, guess we'll find out next week uh lmao
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>>39601301
Yes I have.
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>>39599543
You're an ugly faggot and now you're an ugly faggot with a shit attitude and a chip on your shoulder because STEROIDS. Just KYS.

Real men don't use steroids.
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>>39601318
was yours legit?
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How does one get into steroids?
Aussie here based in sydney.
Just curious how people go by acquiring and then dosing the gear.
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>>39601353
Yes
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>>39600948
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki-fATpXa00
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>>39601409
The 80's were good but just wait.
It's MAGA time!
The world has forgotten what that means but it is going to be incredible.
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>>39601375
darknet
testosterone enanthate 250mg/ml +
arimidex or aromasin
1ml syringe, 0.5ml every 3 days will give you about 300mg/wk, 1ml every 3 days about 600mg/wk
25 guage 1 inch needles for quads or glutes if you're not a fatty.
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I'm starting my first cycle at the end of January 2017.
The plan is test e 500mg/week with 2 injects a week for 12 weeks. I will be using Nolva but I'm not sure on the dosage/when to start using it? Any thoughts or tips? Also, inject in glutes only or quads also?
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>>39602089

Enjoy your ongoing hormonal issues, depression and anxiety, and lowered quality of life.

If you are asking /fit/ for steroid advice, you are not ready. Most of you have no idea what you are really getting in to.
This shit won't be cool once you are past your teens/early 20s.

I advise all of you to put steroids in your rear view mirror before you end up on TRT, unable to ever be more than 3 days away from a needle.
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>>39602217
You are saying that if I do 1 cycle I wont be able to live without pinning 2 times a week?
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>>39599543
Op is weak
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>>39602217

Let me just continue life at <400 total testosterone at 24 years old
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>>39602217
>end up on TRT, unable to ever be more than 3 days away from a needle
What world do you live in where TRT is getting injected every 3 days. Afaik it's generally every 2 weeks or more in most countries.
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Never had any hair loss prior to using roids. If I stop using steroids, will my hair loss stop?

Pls respond
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Getting Modafinil is easier the ephedrine in aus. what should my modafinil cycle be to maximise weight loss?
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So im not into the injection thhing but heres my first cycle:
8 weeks
Tren tabs 25mg ed
Dbol 50mg ed
Mk677 25mg ed
Lgd4033 10mg ed
S4 50mg ed
Aromasin 10mg ed
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>>39602716
Bye liver
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>>39602736
Well ya sorry lol i didnt mention natty supps i am taking milk thistle amd extreme organ guard pro so thats not an issue. Mainly wondering if i should add clen and dnp to this stack so i can burn fat while getting big?
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>>39602716
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>>39602716
you'll need at least twice that ed to leave humanity behind anon

you have to think big to get big
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>>39602762
Yes you should add that LETS GET BIG
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>>39602217
Different guy, didnt start test till 30, first experience hdrol only at 29 (shitty by the end of 5 weeks). Ive come off test and tren with bunk pct gear before and have been fine (though the hdrol only made me feel shitty).

>>39602248
If you plan to do only 1 cycle, it wont end up being 1. But Ive come off several times and enjoyed natty life for some time before hopping back on and not felt shit.

>>39602736
>>39602774
>>39602716
Its just the steroid orals bad for the liver, the sarms and gh secretagogue are not.

S4 has bad sides though.

>>39602762
Those are marginal at best, and not worth your money. If you want a supplement, use TUDCA, even if you take only 250mg ED to save money it will be far better than any of those shitty supps.

Clen and DNP will raise your metabolism, you will require more calories to add mass at the same rate.
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>>39602716
Let me improve this for you and make it cheaper, with far less sides and far less potential for things to go wrong, and far quicker recovery.

irc.bio LGD and MK677 with liquid kit, much cheaper.

LGD 25mg ED (perhaps taper up to it in 1 or 2 weeks)
MK677 25mg ED

Eat big, 6-8 rep scheme + final set or two of 15 reps.

No asin, S4, or oral roids.


If you man up to pinning - 200mg of Test E/C + LGD 25mg ED (the test dosage will be equivalent of much higher than 200mg when taking LGD as itll suppress SHBG and give you more free test - and more estro too).
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>>39602716
>>39602998

Ive done it, and oral roids only without test are usually shit. LGD only without test is pretty decent though, better stacked with test, it has a syngergistic effect with test - suppresses SHBG so it makes your test dose equivalent of a higher dose on top of its own benefits.

Trest/Ment seems to be able to be used on its own without test without being shitty, that comes in injectable, oral and transdermal.
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Someone asked if they should save var for their bulking cycle or just use it for cutting.

IMO Var is fairly weak and most of its benefits will be in a cutting cycle when you're already pretty lean to give you a harder, dry look.

If you saved it for a strength cycle you'd probably just be wasting it compared to if you chose to use dbol or another bulking oral.

Either way, lean mass gain is mostly going to come from consistent muscle damage and repair (hypertrophy). Anything else like bar *might* add an additional fraction of lean body mass.

A majority of it will come just from training intensely, test, and nutrition.

I firmly believe the 80/20 rule applies here. Where 80% of the gains you make will be from 20% of the things you take.

We all know everyone takes test.

So the other 20% will be he extra shit like deca, tren, orals, etc.

That's not to say that it's not "worth" taking anything else besides test, but a majority of gains will come from being consistently high test regardless of specific compounds.

Orals might give you an appearance or feel of getting bigger quicker, but how much of that is actual lean body mass?

I couldn't ever give you a definitive answer.
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>>39600349
Source talk just means information regarding contacting the source. Discussing the reputation of an alleged source is not prohibited.
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>>39603415
That was me, thanks for the explanation.
Also did my first pin yesterday (2*150mg/week). Should I use the var as a kickstart or wait untill the test kicks in?
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>>39603415
>but how much of that is actual lean body mass?
This. I blow up like a water balloon the first couple weeks on dbol. I'd be happy if even 10% was lbm.
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>>39603470
if its your very first cycle then i wouldn;t take the var.

If its your first time you will feel it in the first week and you are going to love it.

Var is more of a specialty thing really, not really worth it for first time users.
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>>39603415
i think this is a limited view. nandrolone is objectively a better lean mass builder than testosterone...lower t and higher n will grow you more than the other way around all else being equal.
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Any bros have experience leaving a pregnant gf or breaking up with the mother of your kids?

I'm tremendously unhappy being with this chick and I will not ever be able to meet my life goals if I'm with her because she is horribly unorganized and lazy. It was nice banging her for a year but with a kid on the way I'm freaking out. Birth control failed btw. I was creampie'ing her for about 12 months straight and finally that 0.03% chance became a reality.
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>>39603533
I wouldn't disagree with you, but deca is just a testosterone derivative.

So when you're taking deca, you're still technically taking a testosterone compound.
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>>39603559
Killem.
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>>39603559
People change.

At this point you have to stop thinking about yourself.

You now have a kid on the way and it's going to be your responsibility that you don't cause the kid to develop issues because you left its mom and it had no father figure.

Then you'd be responsible for creating a shitty human being with mental problems like daddy issues.

Be the man who changes her, and if you can't change her, just be the best example for your kid that you can be.

You knew the risks of doing what you did. Man up.
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Will it be a waste to add Mast to an deca 500 Test 600 blast ?
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>>39603533
I found this:
"Deca, also known as Deca Durabolin or nandrolone decanoate, is perhaps the second-best known injectable anabolic steroid after testosterone. It seems that almost every steroid novice and many who are experienced with steroid cycles believe that for best results they may need to include Deca. However, in fact this compound has no special anabolic properties: other injectable steroids can do everything for muscle growth that Deca can"

This sort of affirms what I'm saying. Not saying you're wrong but I think many people think deca has some magical properties but if we were to take two people and they were both on the same
Dosages of deca versus testosterone their results would be very similar, and any differentiation would likely be attributed to genetics, or any other of the hundreds of variables that affect growth.

If we took their blood work their testosterone levels would be elevated regardless.

So what exactly about deca do you think puts it above testosterone?

Either way you're most likely going to take testosterone with Deca. In that case, you're certainly going to have a synergistic affect.

But who knows? I'd love to run a ton of experiments on the differences of results. Unfortunately we'll have to rely on anectodal experiences.
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>>39603559
Reality is most women today divorce rape the father of their children anyway. You can put your life into helping her and as soon as she gets her shit together and gets hit on by another guy (doesn't even have to be nearly as attractive as you, newness is exciting on its own) then she just "doesn't love you like she used to" and "needs time to think about the future". Then you get to give her alimony for the rest of her life while she takes dick from every piece of shit guy in town.
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>>39601188
This is what i did as a natty to cut to get that level:

You have; 6 low carb and 1 high carb day(sun) each week. Add 1 more carb day on thursday, if you're at 10% bf.

On low carb you eat things like; eggs, cottage cheese, chicken, lean meat, fish/salmon
On high carb days its remains the same as low carb days, but you add some carbs like; oats, rice, pasta etc.
Good fats are also good, since they stimulate fat loss; almonds, nuts, natural peanut butter, other good nuts etc.

Example of a low carb day;

6 egg(whole + egg whites)
lean meat + broccoli + almonds
lean meat + broccoli + almonds
chicken + broccoli + almonds
chicken + broccoli + natural peanut butter
eggs(whole + egg whites)
cottage cheese.

On a high carb day it remains the same, but you add rice/oats to each meal.

I also recommend you drink 3/4L water each day and green thea

Pics are results from that cut.
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>>39599543
Is Bimbo actually gay or does he just let himself get molested so he can afford to eat?
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>>39603719
Seems dumb to me.

Mast is only for the looks. Keeps you full during heavy cuts. Shines especially at lower body fat. So if you're a fat blubber, you're just wasting your money

I will never go higher than 100 mg mast-e anymore. I see no changes body-wise at higher or lower dose. It's a waste of money and hair.
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>>39604059
Nice thanks then i will Save ist for the Finishing of a cut
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Did second injection of all time last night, (250mg pinned quad) and there's a small... I don't want to say bump but almost like a knot in the injection site.
I've read that this is normal, is it though? I sterilized with alcohol, fresh needle , wiped cap of the vial before I pulled to the syringe.

Is this normal though? It's not really a bump or like a lump or anything like protruding, it's just I can feel a knot sort of when I press down. The site is not red whatsoever, and I can't tell if it's hot or not to the touch so it shouldn't be an infection. Any advice?
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>>39604127
500mg is the highest i went. I felt like a god want to rape everything. But was also really paranoid about my gf cheating on me. Drived me insane

but why would you go higher if you could like pic related on only 100mg. Mad? YOU MAD DYELS?

NOT EVEN PUMPED
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>>39604163
stop touching that shit, if it isn't infected you could infect it by poking it with your dirty hands every 2 hours.
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>>39604279
alright i won't. The whole knot thing is normal though right? I'm gonna put some more alcohol on the area
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>>39599923
dont die, drink a lot of water, dont die
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Yo dudes my PSO 1000mg and Saw Palmetto 450mg came in.

How much should I be dosing how many times how spread out throughout the day?
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>>39604179
what sides have you gotten
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>>39604395
So you're LARPing masT?
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>>39604413
On 500mg?
I'm going to guess:
>Mild acne
>Increased libido
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>>39604395
lol wtf?

you have been taking this shit for months, you know what to do.

lmao, masT use your trip again
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>>39604656
>>39604645
Sorry dudes I'm not masT I meant to ask him and I put it in the name box

Pls help with dosages
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>>39604665
Alright, since you asked nicely here's what the man himself says:

I take 3x(1000mg each) PSO spread over the day
&
I take 5x(450mg each)Saw palmetto spread over the day.

It takes a long time to see the effects, 12 weeks probably.
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>>39604676
>take 5x(450mg each)Saw palmetto spread over the day.

I know theres the one study about PSO but whats this stuff? I take 3000mg PSO during breakfast but 5 more pills is a pain.
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>>39604709
If you bodybuild you probably eat 5 meals a day, that's one SP pill a meal
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>>39604709
Natural 5-a reductase inhibitor. Basically a natural version of finasteride I think.
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>>39604709
>>39604755

From wikipedia:
>The berries of saw palmetto (Serenoa repens), a small palm native to the south east United States, possess a dual 5a-reductase inhibition activity, due to their high content of phytosterols: β-sitosterol, stigmasterol, lupeol, lupenone, and cycloartenol. Permixon® was launched in Europe in 1984 but has no FDA approval. The lipido-sterol extract markedly inhibits both the human isoenzymes. Type 1 isoenzyme is noncompetitively (Ki = 7.2 μg/mL) and type 2 isoenzyme uncompetitively (Ki = 4.9 μg/mL) inhibited.
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>>39604770
Like I understand any of those words
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>>39604780
Saw palmetto blocks your body's mechanisms for converting test into DHT. DHT is a potent androgenic sex hormone that is associated with acceleration of male pattern baldness.

Happy? All of this will start to make more sense the more you read about it, unless this is what nu-/fraud/ looks like.
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How old were you guys when you started?
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>>39604872
25

Definitely should have started sooner, as I have been low test my whole life.
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>>39604872
18

if you're gonna roid anyways theres no point in going slower for your first few years.
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>>39604886
No jokes now, when is the optimal time to start? I'm not really planning on doing it myself any time soon but I'm interested in steroids as a subject. The information about when to start seems to be so wide-spread.
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>>39604901
Did you do any tests before going on? Like checking blood pressure, liver values, and look up if you have any underlying genetics which would bring up an increased chance of heart problems?
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>>39604872
19, began yesterday

might start tripping also
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>>39604907
>the optimal time to start
when you're done puberty and know how to eat and train properly

>>39604930
>Did you do any tests before going on
I did the basics like BP and really generic liver tests but nothing too extreme. No heart problems in the family but I'm not exactly going to go get my DNA tested for this crap. Steroids aren't THAT dangerous IMO
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>>39604872
25
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>>39604953
Thanks for answering! If you don't mind me asking, what is/was your favorite cycle and how has steroids affected your life in the big picture?
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So are sarms a meme or what?
I see alot of speak of them and was considering adding one or two to me next cycle but part of me feels like its nattys with a placebo that its helping them.
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>>39604901
>>39604946
Jelly, wish I had started sooner like you guys
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>>39605002
>what is/was your favorite cycle

tren E/ mast E is what I'm currently on and I love it but its definitely not the most "effective" cycle. It just feels nice and lets you put on muscle without worrying about any excess fat.

> how has steroids affected your life in the big picture?

Guess if I want to go on a 4 months vacation i wouldn't be able to pin but thats not exactly normal. Also no PCT so there's a good chance ill have to be on TRT forever but there have been guys who got their test back after pinning for like 5 years so who knows.
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took like 750mg aspirin yesteday morning and last night, again just now. going to try to drain some blood again later

Also would ephedrine fuck it up? I have some 10 page essay finals due soon and wanna use some ephedrine to knock it out really quick
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>>39605101
>tren E/ mast E
I'm liking this too even as a cruise at a low dose. Pity mast seems to be the only acne inducing drug for me up till now because it really counters all the tren negative sides
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>>39605044
>are sarms a meme or what?

literally just a shittier version of sterons. The people who use sarms are usually just bigger pussies than the people who ask if they can get big on 200mg test/wk.
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>>39605127
Good to know. I laughed my ass off when someone i know said theyre taking one to get taller lmfao fucking stupid ass manlet
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>>39604907

Age?
Height?
Body fat %?
Time spent lifting?

All of these things play a role in determining when to start. Also, >>39604953 is right.

I'd say for most people, 22 is probably a good time if they prepared well from 20-22 by lifting well and learning how to eat.

>>39604993
And how old are you now? If you were low T, do you regret waiting until 25?

>t. person who started at 25 as well
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>>39605127

Why wouldn't you want 99% of the negative sides and health risks for 10% of the gains?

You don't have to use a scary needle!
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>>39604872
21

Im so glad my friend sent me a random /fit/ thread 10 months ago.

I am so glad i started browsing /fit/ out of fun.

I am so glad that one day i asked myself "What are these fraud threads anyways, i see em everyday"

I am so glad that i continued to lurk this place and google steroid related stuff out of curiosity throughout the entire time, not knowing i will be roiding myself one day.

I am so glad this all happened while i am 21 yo.

Seriously i got fucking lucky. Thank you autistic weebo friend who browses 4chan since years.

In return i am helping him frauding too, buying all the test, giving him all my knowledge, helping him not to fuck shit up.

shiiiit guys, zyzz was looking down on me the entire time. He knew i was gonna make it.
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>>39605310
If only more beginner users had friends like you! Truly a godsend.
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just got a request from a guy on a tinder-like app (it lets you talk to people you havent matched with if you pay for it, and homos and trans usually abuse this)

he's into cuck stuff and wants me to fuck his girlfriend while he's watching and sometimes joins in
>pic related

i dont know how to react to this man its just too much

what would /fraud/ do?
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>>39605335
they clearly want to rob you
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>>39604413
>>39604651
No weirdly enough i never get acne on gear, only when i go off, thus i never go off again. My skin looks even cleaner on higher mast. I only got a few pimples when i lowered the dose to 100 mg, but they're already gone. I just made sure i tapered off really slowly, which probably helped a lot.

I was really paranoid about everything. Was constantly thinking my gf was cheating, to the point i got fucking depressed at work and could only think about that. We had a lot of beef about it. Made no fucking sense. Thinking about it, i could not understand how i could be like that. I am probably prone to it.

But the libido was just insane. I could just cum, fuck, cum, fuck, cum, fuck the whole night. Just a machine. My gf liked it, but i was constantly thinking about sex. Sometimes it was annoying at work, having a boner all the time.

I also felt like a god the whole time, but that's what i am always doing already. Was beyond god-tier feelings.

100 mg or 500 mg and i look exactly the same body-wise. No reason to go higher if you don't get gains because of it.
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>>39605353
thats one of my concerns lmao
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>>39605368
you can always take the risk dude, but don't be angry after they rob/kill/assfuck you
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>>39605368
meet in a public place first, get the vibe, and then DP her
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>>39605335
I did that once but part of the agreement was i had to fuck the guy as well. Im straight so ive never fucked a dude but his hf was hot as fuck i had to do it. so i couldn't get hard when i tried to fuck him but i would fuck his girl and switch to his ass and back and forth to keep. Was fun once i got in the rythm, since his ass did feel good once i actually had a hardon.
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>>39605335
lol dude, this is so fucking fishy, why are you even thinking about doing it.

how can someone be this desperate
>>39605446
i sincerely hope this is b8
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>>39605421
>>39605378
i was invited to meet up and grab a coffee first to get to know eachother

>>39605446
yeah i would never do that, also one of my concerns, he hasnt mentioned anything about that only complimented that i look good and it would be hot if i fucked his girl or we did it together, i need to tell him i aint up for that before we agree to anything
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>>39605478
True true. I wasnt into it but i needed to bust a nut and he let me creampie his gf and he ate it lmfao i was quite amazed. Honestly fuckin him wasnt bad but in the beginning they gave me double head and hia beard made it feel so awful
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>>39605446
>>39605500

Excellent banter
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>>39605446
>his gf was so hot I had to fuck him
Nigga you gay
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>>39605500
>>39605446
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>>39605518
Well considering i needed the girl to get hard, no im not lol. I tried to fuck him first to get it over with but i couldn't get a boner.
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>>39605518
Is it only gay because the man's benis was not feminine?

Help me understand your world.
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>>39605532
>fucking a man in the ass doesn't make me gay because I wasn't that into it at first
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>>39605518

>jerry
>calling others gay

>>39605500

>True true. I wasnt into it but i needed to bust a nut and he let me creampie his gf and he ate it lmfao

Am I gay if this turns me on
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Since we're talking about this anyway I may as well ask.

Are you still a cuck if you have a MMF threesome with your GF but you're bi? Its been bothering me for months now.
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>>39605532
>>39605500
>>39605446

Sometimes i feel like a piece of shit, awkward and not normal at all.

Then i see people like you, and i am happy again
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>>39605554
If he fucks with your girl in any way, yea
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>>39605554
you have to ask?
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First time adding in Nandrolone(NPP) and Mast, would it be stupid to jump on both of them at the same time? Should I just wait, and save one of them for ny next cycle?

Can't really afford to get the infamous Deca-dick, got a fwb I'm seeing several times a week currently. And from what I've heard Mast would help improve libido significantly, therefore I reason they would at least cancel each other out at worst, in regards to libido.

Thoughts on the Mast is primarily due to mood effects, but decreased bloat would be nice. Even tho I'm aware my body fat is a bit high to get "dry" or whatever.
Would say I'm about 14-15%. Being harsh in the estimation.

So either 0/200/400 Mast with
200/400 NPP?

Was considering adding in Mast maybe after 4th week, if needed, and otherwise just stick with NPP and keep the Mast around for the next cycle?
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>>39605554
If it doesn't turn you on, you're not a cuck. Just a dude that failed to fully satisfy his partner by himself.
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>>39605562

>Sometimes i feel like a piece of shit, awkward and not normal at all.


NAH m8 YOURE A SICKUNT M8

IF YOU EVER FEEL NOT NORMAL FEEL THOSE TREE TRUNK ARMS OF YOURS

THOSE ARENT NORMAL

WHO WANTS TO BE NORMAL?
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>>39605590
>if it doesn't make you angry you're a cuck
FTFY
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>>39605532
>I tried to fuck him first
I mean theres nothing wrong with being gay, but....

You gay

>>39605539
Exactly
Youre getting there
Very good

>>39605554
Its ok being a cuck is very chic right now
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>>39605609
It's come to represent a very niche fetish. If he's some guy into group sex with his wife and dudes, that's more hedon territory.
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>>39605651
Alright yeah I will skip the Mast until I'm actually more cut, and get a feel for the NPP on its own.
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>>39605651
T H I C C
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>>39605554
if he fucks your gf, yes


WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH ALL OF YOU PEOPLE, CAN YOU NOT JUST BE A NORMAL HUMAN BEAN?

AND IM REPLYING TO WEIRD DEGENERATES LIKE YOU

reeeeee
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>>39605706

TRIP ON MOOSEY

>>39605676

LItERAL 3/10
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>>39605753
aye
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>>39605706
Humans have literally always been looking for fascinating and strange ways to get off. Your false moral superiority shows an insecurity that you've failed to embrace your primal urges, or you're too insecure to act on them feeling you can't live up to your hyper masculine standards.

It's okay dog.
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I'm flying to the US soon and I'm still doing my PCT, how risky is it do take my Letro and Nolvadex with me?
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>>39605783

drugs are bad, bimbo

>that you've failed to embrace your primal urges

Thing is my primal urge isnt to fuck a guy, that also fucks my gf lol
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>>39605753
>LItERAL 3/10
no
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>>39605783
Does this stand up in court for pedo?
Asking for a friend
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>>39605247
27. Wasn't low T.
I regret not lifting sooner, no real regrets about roids.
>>39605554
Only if you don't fuck him or if he knocks up your gf.
>>39605545
>Am I gay if this turns me on
It depends. Are you imagining yourself as the guy who creampies? Or the guy who eats it?
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>>39605816
Fuck you're stupid.
>>39605844
Text me nerd this place is riddled with retards. Leave.
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>>39605853

The guy who creampies obviously.

Still,

>another man swallowing your semen

>>39605862

Calm down bimbs, everythings gonna be OK.

People can have different opinions and outlooks
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So I moved to Germany, and I'm wondering if it's somehow easier o get gear here. My old old gymbro said that it was legal in Poland or someshit, but it was probably bantz to get my hopes up

Also, in desperate need of a gymbro lads :,(
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>>39605862
true lmao

>>39605853
Dusty old bones full of green dust
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>>39605888
>>another man swallowing your semen
Probably somewhere on the Kensy scale. Probably not 100% hetero.
>People can have different opinions and outlooks
No. Everyone who doesn't agree is retarded.

This is like debate 101.
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>>39605903
>Dusty old bones full of green dust
No u
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Guys I just injected my first .7 ML's of Test E (300mg's/ml) and it didn't hurt at all. No burning, no PIP, nothing. Is my gear bunk? Or will the pain set in later? I know I did the injection right, my buddy watched me and he's an experienced cycler.


Also I have aromasin, nolvadex, and clomid on hand. Should I start taking aromasin now, wait a few weeks, not take it at all unless needed, or what? I see mixed opinions about it just want /fraud/'s best advice. Thanks brahs.
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>>39605942
Take AI when symptoms appear. At whatever amount you decided was necessary (.7ml??? Just pin 300mg nerd) AI probably isn't needed.

PIP shouldn't be a big deal with a small amount of oil with something as runny as test. It you weaseled the syringe around maybe, you could have fucked soft tissue.

Wait several days.
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>>39605942
>Or will the pain set in later?
Usually the pip doesn't set in until the next day.
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>>39605973
I like PIP. Such a good stretch when you do leg press with VG PIP.
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>>39605990
>I like PIP.
I could see that.
Sort of like imitation DOMs. lol
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>>39605958
The goal was 400mg's a week; my syringes are hard to tell where the lines are so it's like .7-.8 MG's which is well over 200mg's per pin.

How long on average will it take for symptoms of aromatization to appear? 2-4 weeks?
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>>39606019
Yeah exactly like that.

Getting my roommate on var. hopefully it realigns her chakras a bit.
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>>39606058
When/if your nipples get itchy start with 6.25 Asian e3d.

Forgot pic
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>>39606063
>my roommate
The ex?
Or did you dodge that bullet? Haven't been on /fraud/ in a while.
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>>39606108
His ex
My gf
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>>39606078
10 bucks a bottle for var whaaaaatttt
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>>39606108
No I am definitely putting the booze around my neck on that one.
>>39606120
Lady var is cheap. Basically 10 bucks for 300mg. That's 100 bucks a month for a me sized dose everyday.
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>>39606138
How long will the itchy nips take to go away after taking asin
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>>39606154
Days. Within a week.
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>>39605783
>an insecurity that you've failed to embrace your primal urges
Pretty sure the primal urge is to kill the other male who is trying to bang your chick, rather than embrace the idea.

Lol at the mental carousel you're riding trying to explain why you're such a fag when it comes to your oneitis.
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>>39606222
My cock slut? No. I have three dates lined up on top of moving in with her.
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>>39606112
>Wanting used goods
S m h f a m

>>39606138
>booze around my neck
I'm pretty sure there are quicker ways to get drunk.
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>>39606310
Noose
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>>39606234

>it's exclusive casual
>I have three dates lined up

???????????

???????????
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>>39606310
>not wanting to be Eskimo bros
they're All used goods lmao
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>>39605604
literally pointing the gun at his own biceps with the finger on the trigger

someone call /k/
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>>39606347
>they're All used goods
Lol hard to argue with that.
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>>39606470
So are we tho
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Can you pin with a 23g insulin needle if you're at like 20% BF? Is it possible you'd just be wasting the test or no?
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>glands are small today fuck it
>shave beard
>take off hat, hair is grown back enough now from shaving it like a retard
>for no reason 100x as many people are talking to me and smiling at me, even old ass professors

Also how long does it take for these needle marks on my arms to go away from draining blood? lol
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GUISE I want to take a SERM every day. I think I have LOW TEST but the NHS a shit, so instead of seeing a doctor I prescribed myself Clomid. But I found out that one of its isomers is estrogenic and has a longer half-life, so after a week or so, the estrogenic effects dominate.

I also heard there was a company trying to make a version with just the anti-estrogenic isomer but they can't get past the FDA or something. So, in the mean-time: is tamoxifen better or does it have the same problem?

>TL;DR can i take tamoxifen every day for LOW TEST
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>>39606636
tl;dr i am a pussy doing everything i can to avoid a pointy metal object because my dick is 2 inches long
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>>39606491
Some of more then others.
Amirite?

>>39606498
Couldn't say first hand. Probably fine if you pin somewhere like delts. If you fuck up, it'll probably just be subcutaneous instead of intramuscular.
>>39606636
You're better off taking test for low test m8.
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Sup nerds?

>Ex called me today asking for money
>last time we talked she told me to go fuck myself for calling her a lying coward and then blocked my number
>pussy game was mad strong though...
>kinda want to fuck her again...
What do brehs?
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>>39606737
And there's no real difference with injecting it subcutaneously, right?
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>>39606498
why are you injecting test at 20% bf
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>>39606769
Because i'm naturally low test and test is good for cutting ?
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>>39606744
>Sup nerds?
Not much.
Gunna make a sex tape with a hook up tonight. lol
>asking for money
>What do brehs?
Hit then leave the cash on the dresser? lol

>>39606759
Subcutaneously is absorbed slower because there are less blood vessels in the tissue.
Couldn't say how much slower.
Also>>39606769
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>>39606769

Why not?
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>>39606744
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>>39606744
bang her

tell her she wasnt worth the money

kick her out without paying
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>>39606714
Don't project you're literal needle dick on to me. I don't want to roid at all, the SERM is for general health, not muscles. Just thought this was the best place to ask.
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>>39606744
definitely bang her, throw a 20 onto her body right after you cum, and then leave without saying a word.
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>>39606814
>Gunna make a sex tape with a hook up tonight. lol
Nice lol
>>39606827
Ya I know =/
>>39606835
>>39606906
Lmao we will see. Probably just gonna leave it be. Don't need more liars back in my life.
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>>39606744
>Have sex
>Get a rape allegation
>Do bodyweight workout in prison

or

>Have sex
>She lol forgot her pill
>Have children
>She stays with you long enough for you to feel attached to your family - then you are kicked out.
>The kids don't understand why and beg you to stay
>You tell yourself you won't commit suicide because they need you
>Then you kill yourself anyway - either directly or with drugs/alcohol.

or

>You have sex with her
>You get an STD
>You live with the STD itching and burning for the next, forever. No cure. No relief. Always a sexual outcast.

or

Maybe all of the above.
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>>39606827
>>39606917
Is Cap doing kinky porn too?

I feel so left out. lol
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>>39606942
>not using a condom and secretly filming the sex
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>>39606942
>>Get a rape allegation
>>She lol forgot her pill
>>You get an STD
These are all pretty much solved by wrapping it up.
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>>39606942
So there is no happy ending to this situation?
>>39606949
>Is Cap doing kinky porn too?
No lmao. Would be fun though. But if I ever get into politics that would be a big issue soooo ya.
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Kek beta ass boyfriends not letting their girls workout next to me with those tren pheromones flowing.
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>>39606882
>i want to take drugs to raise my testosterone for general health

>>>BUT NOT TESTOSTERONE ITSELF!!! OMFG!!! NEEDLES
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>>39606958
wrapping it up defeats the purpose, literally cant feel shit

i hate condoms
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>>39599810
>>39599815
I just found her ig and fapped my dick raw. YouTube channel is next
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>>39604179
Haha you look like a dick
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>>39606979
I could see you as a politico.

>>39607009
Must not be swole enough. Normally they shoo them into the cardio room.

>>39607133
>i hate condoms
Agreed. But it's the price you pay for fucking sloots instead of your gf.
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>>39607126
It has nothing to do with needles. Also don't act like the mechanism of action is comparable. Testosterone is replacing something your body produces naturally, and stops your body from producing it. SERMs simply encourage the body to produce more than usual.

Also:
>testosterone side-effects: increased risk of heart disease, stroke, gyno, blood clots, prostate enlargement, prostate cancer, sleep apnea
>clomiphene side-effects: dizziness, nauseau, breast tenderness
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>>39607200
lol

behold. the type of complete fucking retard this kind of thread attracts.
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>>39607200
If Serms were better at TRT then Test, that's what doctors would prescribe.

trt doses of test have basically no negative side effects for 98% of the male population.
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>>39607200
>>39607253
>raising my testosterone using a needle is more risky than trying to raise it like a retard with breast cancer drugs guys

>trust me needles are bad
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>>39607167
Not gonna lie some of those trannies are pretty good looking. Like if I didn't know I'd probably ask this one on a date or something.
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>>39607253
>If Serms were better at TRT then Test, that's what doctors would prescribe.
Some do prescribe clomiphene. Most don't because (a) it's an off-label use and there's little industry interest in getting FDA approval (probably because clomid is cheaper), and (b) after a while, it starts to have the opposite effect due to its estrogenic isomer. Hence why I'm asking about other SERMs.
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>>39603645
Solid advice right here.

>If you can't serve the time.
>Don't do the crime.
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>>39607333
Why not just use test?
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>>39607375
More side-effects, more expensive, stops your body producing test naturally. SERMs just make your brain think it needs to produce more. It has nothing to do with needles. There are orally administered steroids, and I don't wanna take them either.
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>>39607405
>side-effects, more expensive,
You seriously need to do more research.
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so I'm currently on my second cycle. first cycle was the standard 500mg of test e a week and a dbol kickstarter. I didn't respond well to the dbol (too many sides), so I decided to just do a higher dose of test e for my second cycle.

I'm in week 10 of my cycle, and I gained more fat than I wanted to. Would it be stupid to cut for 3 weeks between weeks 11-14 of my cycle, and then go back to lean bulking during pct to preserve mass?
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>>39607405
>More side-effects
you realize that molecule of testosterone is a molecule of testosterone no matter where it comes from right
>more expensive
comedy gold lel
>stops your body producing test naturally.
why is this a bad thing

if you want to stop, you then take the retarded ass serms that you were planning on taking anyway for a few weeks
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>>39607405
Why not ot HCG?
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>>39607454
take a wild guess
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>handwrite like 5 pages of this one takehome final essay in music class while listening to some shitty classic music i have heard 5000 times
>come home and start transcribing it into microsoft word
>getting a headache trying to read my own fucking handwriting

reee
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transformix reviews for mk677 where?
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>>39599923
Today is day 1 after my first foree into dnp, did 3 days and 250 crystals, then 500,250,500,250. just for a week to test tollerance, its nowhere near as bad as I expected, 250 is nbd, 500 gets warm and a sweaty at night. its cold where I live so it makes life easier. going to run a week at 500 after new years. any questions ask away
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>>39599923
yeah plan to look like shit for at least 2 weeks after your last cap if running 500mg or above
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>>39602385
as someone on the east coast on trt, fuck e2w injections. I split my dose to every week, every two weeks leaves you feeling like death by day 10
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>>39607849
>he doesn't use test U
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>>39607704
Can you write me an essay on why this comment is relevant to this thread and this board?
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>>39607907
forgot to mention that my hands are shaking from clen
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>>39607914
>essay
>one sentence
2/40 See me!
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4th week of first cycle. 500mg of test e since week 2 (started with 250mg e5d)

already getting a LOT stronger but dont really notice size gains much except on arms.

how long does it take to see really noticeable gains in size?
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Was supposed to move Friday, but that unit won't be available until the 15th. I went with a patio unit available for Saturday.

Kinda lame I had plans for Friday evening all set up. But I get a smoking patio.
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>>39608109
it's actually supposed to be the other way around
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Hey /fraud/, is it worth running TRT doses to start with if you're low test?
I'm a low test (actually checked) natty getting ready to order test, AI, and PCT.
I was originally planning to go for TRT doses (125mg/wk), but I know that I eventually want to be on some slightly higher doses (250mg/wk, maybe 500mg/wk for short periods).
Should I just skip right to 250mg/wk, or is there some benefit to being on lower doses to start with?
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>>39608178
>is it worth running TRT doses to start with if you're low test?
Yes.
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>>39600565

Thanks. Do you just keep repeating 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off until you get to your desired bodyfat level?

During the 2 weeks off, do you eat at maintenance, or slight or large deficit?
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>>39608178

Just blast and cruise 1.5gram blast/500mg cruise, there is no negative health effects, and you won't see any gains on 250mg anyways

it's super smart for a new roider to start out at 500mg. Super super smart. Why be a pussy bitch and start with 250mg?

Also tren is great for your first cycle. After all, those tren pheremones!
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>>39603559
What type of birth control was it that failed?
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>>39608271
lel
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>>39602089
You got a SERM but you need an AI and HCG on hand. Also a dopamine agonist if you run Tren later.
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>>39608325
>HCG on hand
lol
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>>39602716
You don't cycle without a Test base.
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>>39608272

The old 'stop taking pills, acquire meal ticket' method
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>>39608343
get Pregnyl
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Blood test coming up in 5 hours

Woke up at 0600 yesterday, after about 5 hours of sleep, then took a nap from 15:30 to 19:30, been awake since 19:30 and blood test will be at 08:00

Think this is sufficient for a shit test? Also been chewing licorice as if it's candy

Results will probably come back on friday or monday, wish me luck famalams
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>>39603559
Buy abortion drugs on darknet.

>>39603870
>divorce rape
How did you write that with a straight face?
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>>39608495
>chewing licorice as if it's candy
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>>39607200
>>39607405

Wait until Melancholy shows up and ask him the following questions:

>what are clomid sides like?
>would you rather be on a cruise dose of test instead of on clomid right now?

>>39607454
This is really the best answer for someone who has an autistic aversion to test.

>>39607709
MemeK unfucked my sleeping patterns and gave me back my appetite. Recommended.

>>39608178
Yeah, get used to TRT dose since that's what you'll be cruising on unless you do the yolo 200mg/week cruise.

Low dose will lead to less estro sides which is probably helpful for you since you're probably fat being low T and all.

Have fun! How long have you been lifting? Age? Height?

>>39608369
Yeah that's what I figured. I find it hard to believe an IUD or hormone pellet would just quit working one day.

>>39608495
Good luck, get that legal script and be happy!
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>>39608593
how recently did you go with them? I heard a few months ago they may have gone to shit.
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>>39608593
>This is really the best answer for someone who has an autistic aversion to test.
not really, because this autistic aversion to test is usually an autistic aversion to needles

despite what people say
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>>39604872
Week before my 20th birthday
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>>39608593
>Yeah, get used to TRT dose since that's what you'll be cruising on unless you do the yolo 200mg/week cruise.
125mg, since they sell it in 250 lel.

>Low dose will lead to less estro sides which is probably helpful for you since you're probably fat being low T and all.
>probably
Haha yeah, probably a little.
haha

>Have fun! How long have you been lifting? Age? Height?
Bit over 3yrs, about to turn 24, just shy of 6ft tall. Weighing about 225 right now, but I want to eventually be either in the 275 or 308 class (le powerlifting meme).
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>>39608686
what range would 125mg/w put someone in?
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>>39608837
Well we're certainly about to find out.
Probbaly upper natty ranges. Depends on the person, I guess.
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>>39608837
600-1200

depends on how good/bad of a responder you are
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>>39608617
>how recently did you go with them?
Go with who? Not sure what you're referring to.

>>39608628
Gotcha. I thought I read a post where he was autistic about natural suppression - didn't realize that it was the needles part that was scary to him.

>>39608686
Nice, mirin height. You'll do great with roids since you already know how to lift and diet (assuming you do know how to diet).

Keep us posted. Most people here would recommend avoiding fatness while on test because of the higher likelihood of estrogen sides.
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>>39608976
transformix's mk677
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>>39608976
>Nice, mirin height. You'll do great with roids since you already know how to lift and diet (assuming you do know how to diet).
I know how, yeah. I'm actually eating pretty cleanly right now (steak, chicken, bacon, rice, broccoli, cereal (cheerios), and pancakes for my sweet tooth).
If I don't have any estro issues (hopefully not on 125mg/wk), then I'll actually be bulking a bit.
225 isn't big enough lel.

>Keep us posted. Most people here would recommend avoiding fatness while on test because of the higher likelihood of estrogen sides.
Yeah, I'm kinda fat. So... Crossed fingers for no problems there. I don't really care about being fat, but if it causes problems for me, then I'll lose it.
On that topic, what do strongmen and SHWs do? Like... Big Z was fat-as-fatass for a while. Do they just pop AI like candy?
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>>39609044
If you're going from legit low-t to TRT you'll be able to recomp quite a bit before you need to look at bulking.
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>>39609044
how about you just stop being a fatass and cut instead of embracing obesity like "strongmen" aka fatmen do?
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>>39609059
Yeah, I imagine so. Might bulk slowly anyway though, lel.

>>39609068
Who hurt you, anon?
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>>39609059

... this.

I'm natty but I have normal test levels.

As a skinny fat or fat recomp is the best thing for you.

You feel better, you look better, your jawline gets better, your self esteem gos up.

When you have so little muscle on your frame and are so weak , you can actually have no problems with losing muscle or strength.

Skinny fat/fat is the BEST time to cut.

Here is photos ONLY ONE MONTH IN BEWTEEN EACH OTHER of my recomp

This meme of telling fatasses to bulk needs to stop.

Look at me one month ago.
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>>39609115

One month later;

ONE MONTH!

>>39609095

>might bulk anyways

So you want to look like trash for as long as possible right? Listen to this guy >>39609068
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>>39609115
>>39609124
I don't give a fuck about being aesthetic. I know that's the cardinal sin on this general, but as long as I can keep getting girlfriends and don't have health problems from it, I don't feel the need to get leaner.
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>>39609148
>I don't give a fuck about being aesthetic

Doesn't mean you should go past 15% body fat m8, that's plenty for being strongfat.
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>>39609177
or you can get more discipline than 3 year old toddler and stronglean especially with fucking steroids
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>>39609177

He doesn't want to eat less food he wants to stuff his fat mouth with pancakes until he dies (age 55).

No amount of logic or reasoning will help him as he's already decided.

The fact that he thinks pancakes (100% with a shitload of syrup) is clean is a good tip off that he will be fat forever or use DNP to lose weight, gain it back right after
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In for passing all my finals despite PCT brainfog and seeing TRT doc tomorrow morning.

>tindies mad my dick dont work atm tho
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>>39609177
Fair, I guess. I was fat before I started lifting, though. I'll probably lean out over time or after I put on more muscle.

>>39609207
>he wants to stuff his fat mouth with pancakes until he dies
ding ding
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>>39604005
sry didn't see this earlier cuz last minute cramming, how were u feeling on those low carb days? Also what was ur energy/strength like overall while u were running this diet?
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>>39609148
test aromatizes in fat, so enjoy your estrogen, faggot
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Anyone here on finasteride? I started a week ago becauseI suspected I might be diffuse thinning.

I havent noticed any side effects though.
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>>39609255

This.

I'm a fat natty dyel and even I know that you cut to 10% bodyfat before you use gear and THEN you eat a large surplus, make big gains, and then cut post cycle.

How can you be thinking about using gear and not even lurking the fucking thread OR go to reddit for 5 minutes?

These fucking people man
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>>39609332

oh and I forgot double fuckng digit IQ on my list

>>39609148

feel ashamed you are litterally going to be the next blaha
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>>39609349
>feel ashamed you are litterally going to be the next blaha
Nah. That guy's a fucking loon.
>>
Fucked the qt on camera for an hour.
Defintely look fat on camera.

No more sex vids till after a cut. Lol
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>>39607709
You know I sell legit lab tested memek677 right?
>>39607790
Gonna just do two weeks of 250 crystal and see what happens.
>>39607823
Word.
>>39608239
>Do you just keep repeating 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off until you get to your desired bodyfat level?
I have no idea but that's my plan. I've never done dnp before.
>>39609040
Bruhhh...
>>39609124
Good progress!
>>39609281
Ya it works great. Are you on test?
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>>39609393
>Defintely look fat on camera.
Lmao! They say the camera makes everyone bigger.
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>>39609492
where to get and where are the lab test reviews famalam
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Fucking help guys

My pins and ai just got held at customs in Japan, where I live

What the fuck do I do
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Just pinned 300mg test p and 100mg winny.

All I want is thicc bimbo pussy
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>>39609546

>where are the lab test reviews

Booting up photoshop as we speak, will have them for you soon.

>where to get

I just need to crush up some asprin, anyways, you can email me @ Iusesteroidsatam35%[email protected]
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>>39609648
Weird trip
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Is there any point in reaching certain strength goals or some amount of time lifting before hopping on? Or am I wasting my time and should just do it right away?
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>>39609238
in for maintaining a 4.0 gpa after going through previous years finals on 500mg dnp and less than 1k calories without ECA

lets see if i can scrape a 4.0 this year after passing out in class on like 20+ separate occasions from 750mg dnp even though i am off that shit now
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>>39609613
Bump for help, how serious is this
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>>39609761
You should, mostly because muscle strength will overcompensate tendon strength; plus high test doses downtegulate collagen synthesis.

My knees got remarkably shittier my first year of blasting. 12 patellar dislocation in 2014.

Otherwise, diet and discipline are greater assets.
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>>39609528
funny the camera makes me look smaller
>>39609613
enjoy being beheaded after refusing to commit seppuku
>>
guess what you fucking animals

i am going to the specialist in 39 hours and ~26 minutes

lick my atrophied roidballs (not really since mine don't atrophy from roids since they never fucking produced test in the first place ahehehehe)
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>>39609820
what kind of specialist
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>>39609830
ENT (ears nose throat)

going to one on wednesday and if that doesn't work out another one on thursday
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>>39609777
In for team EQ/deca/var, no idea why people blast hard without being on one or more of those compounds.
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>>39609613
Doesnt 2ch have a roid thread
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>>39609812
What that was me I just added an extra space in the trip I guess
>>39609820
I am an animal
>>39609836
Added cost. My soft tissues are fine now even at 1.5g test.
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>>39609777
That's the thing, I guess strength-wise I'm not so bad: I'm pretty close to 3/4/5 and Ive been going to the gym for a long time, but I feel I can only say I've been disciplined for the last 2 years.
Also' how much does diet matter when it comes to lifting while on gear?
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>>39609873
Diet is everything next to drug response/genetics
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>>39609879
So all the things regarding your training are secondary if you don't have your diet in check or aren't responding well?
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>>39609865
Oh well that was not me above lol. Gonna see grill tomorrow maybe. Muh feels and shit ya know?
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>>39609905
If you go to the gym, kick ass and lift heavier weight than the day before, it's all gravy.

Diet is the difference between bloated lower abdomen and kidney fat VS striated obliques.

No amount of mast or tren will compensate for eating nachos every night. Though a large pizza every 3-5d in tren really blows you the fuck up.

The day after a pizza binge here.
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>>39609865
>Added cost

I'm talking support/synergy doses, not blast doses. Say, 150mg deca.
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Ok no more drinking until im sub10
Damn

>>39609927
She wants your money
Smdh
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>>39609905
lol

in lifting if you want the best results you need everything on point. gear, diet, training.

you eat like shit you will get shitty results no matter what you're on
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>>39609927
Dude you sound like me I promise you she's just gonna use your shit up again.

Remember last time she used you for validation? She revealed she had a guy and didn't fuck you. You don't owe her anything and she definitely doesn't think she owes you anything if she's asking you for favors.

Came to you because she knows you'll cave.
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>>39609953
>She wants your money
>Smdh
Lmao fug. I love you guys.
>>39609961
>Came to you because she knows you'll cave.
Alright I know. You are right. Thank you.
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>>39609986
Tell the ho to get to walking. Even if she's dtf, the sex will still validate her. If you don't pay up she's now got leverage.

Anything other than "go away" is a losing game.
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>>39609961
>>39609986
>>39610003
Listen to bimbo, cap. He knows firsthand what it's like to be used and abused by a horrible horrible cunt for years on end.
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>>39610013
Years? I haven't been abused by anyone lately. In fact I'm pretty mean and intolerant of bullshit lately. Roomie is pissed I don't play her games, but she's way more reasonable.

Regardless listen to me.
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>>39610013
Im not that mean to him
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>>39610045
Boipucci =\= cunt

I ' D K N O W
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>>39610055
stay strong bimbsies.
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>>39610114
Duh

Pretty sure I'm great now that the tren is gone. Plus I smoke weed constantly to chill.
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>>39610129
Currently anxious af because my happiness becomes directly tied to my money when i'm on PCT and i just lost 10k.

WHO LIKES MONEY ANYWAY
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>>39610147
>pct
>especially during college finals
>but especially
>>>>>>>>>>>pct
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>>39610158
AT LEAST I DONT HAVE A PUSS FILLED GOLF BALL ON MY NECKCHIN M8
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>>39610168
PCT rage should be a stereotype cuz it's fuckin true. Classmates askin if i'm on drugs, NAH just moodswingin bitch ass hormones bruhhhhhh as I slap everything off the table
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>>39610168
implying it is infected

im pretty sure it's obstructed at this point, probably mucus plugs from being severely dehydrated
>>
>>39610147
I'm having a hard time dissecting who I want to be. At 25 I should be more than an okay body; it's my only asset. I've stagnated for a year because when I'm not putting full effort into my roommate, I just divert all of my energy to lifting. Like 3x daily to work off anxiety.

I'm going back to school and getting new hobbies.
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>>39610193
i'm 28 and back in school out of sheer boredom. Usually make round 60k-100k a year trading, but I almost always lose half during PCT and rage like a little fuckmonkey that isn't sure if he wants to cry or punch walls powerlessly. Learn a skill/trade senpee

>>39610191
please seek help, i enjoy u as a meme, but i'd rather u fix your problem.
>>
this shit says my chipotle bowl was 905 calories and 75g of proton

is that right? seems high
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>>39610215
https://chipotle.com/nutrition-calculator

oops
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>>39610214
Teach me to trade and I'll get you big
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>>39610214
>HEY U FUCKING ANIMALS IM GOING TO A SPECIALIST IN 36 HOURS OR WHATEVER

>>dude please seek help and fix your problem

>HEY U FUCKING ANIMALS IM GOING TO SEE A SPECIALIST IN 36 HOURS OR WHATEVER LICK MY UNATROPHIED ROIDBALLS
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>>39610191
i forget are you the same guy who had an absess in his leg?

why are you so fucked up
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>>39610245
wat

no wtf
>>
>>39610249
oh well youre still a faggot
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>>39610232
>Teach me to trade and I'll get you big
View all the money u put in as already lost and not yours anymore, if you aren't detached you lose.

Past that it's just following everyone else's hype/doom. It's just practicing buying on uptrends, selling on downtrends, and gradually getting better at buying earlier on the up and selling later on the down.

Volatility is the absolute best/fun tho, when it's not volatile it's just a slower more boring version of what you'd be doing in minutes stretched out to weeks/months. It really ain't hard or requiring of any intelligence/knowledge whatsoever.
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>>39610260
it's in the name
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>>39610290
yeah good job
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>>39610215
My local burrito place is 1000 cal and 80g of protein per chicken burrito. I get a guava drink with it. Easy 1250 calories.
God-tier bulking food.
>>
>>39610358
noice
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>>39610358
>25% kcal from protein
What if the tortilla was chicken and it was filled with pieces of bread?
>>
Any of you frauds have add? I seem to meet all the symptoms, but I'm not sure what the diagnosis process is
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>>39610417
i have autism

dont take add meds i tried them for a month cause i got prescribed em and they just amp you up and make you wanna die

gives you like a dry head ache. everything feels fucking dry
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>>39610417
Eating speed
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>>39610417

I got diagnosed with it as a kid, well, ADHD and ADD.

I don't like adderall and ritalin. I'm sort of mad by parents force fed it to me as a child. I blame them for it. Bad parenting. Why feed a little kid meth?

The drugs are bad, they amp the fuck out of you, coke you up, why would you give it to a kid?

I would try to spit them out at the bus stop but my parents wouldn't stand for it, checked under my tongue n shit

Stay away from those meds if you have add without them it will be 1000 times worse mang
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>>39610487
I really need something man, I can't focus on tests, I have no short term memory, and I have a massive fidgeting problem. If taking special meth will fix it, I'm willing to take special meth.
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>>39610378
Double cheese, double meat, extra sour cream.
Gotta eat big to get big
Cmon.

Mirin you finally dropping ex gf. Stay off the tren homie.
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>>39610507

It doesn't fix it. What fixes it is DISCIPLINE.

I've had these symptoms MY ENTIRE LIFE.

What fixed it for me was WILLPOWER--- 'I CAN DO THIS'

FORCE YOURSELF TO FOCUS

>no short term memory

Yeah, I don't know how to fix this man. Sorry. It fucks with my life big time. I lose shit all the time. I put it down somehwhere and it... it's gone.

The drugs WONT HELP YOU.

Adderal is only good if you're going to a party or something and you want to get AMPED THE FUCK UP.

It won't make you less add.

Sorry.
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>>39610532
J U S T
thanks man. Time to become a kung fu monk ig
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Hey friends, will steroids fix my depression?
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>>39610684

No. Try to keep yourself busy.

Always doing some kind of self improvement, work more hours, lift longer.

Making progress with your life is a very good feeling and you feel gr8
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>>39610521
Oh lol not dropped. Fuck tren.
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>>39610777
>>39609777
Twice today. Very legit Internet good vibes.
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>>39609253
I do the same diet now on steroids with zero problems. Natty? A fucking nightmare if you ask me. Couldn't think straight. Low energy and almost blackout everyday. Low libido, didn't wanna do anything. But i even finished university while doing it. No excuses.

Strength was non-existent. But why do you need strength during a cut. Useless.
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>>39609040
Yeah I went with /fraud/s fav memek dealer instead

>>39609044
>On that topic, what do strongmen and SHWs do? Like... Big Z was fat-as-fatass for a while. Do they just pop AI like candy?

Not sure. They might just pop lots of AI but they could also be using low-/non-aromatizing compounds if they are really fat and don't want to use AI.

>>39609115
>>39609124
Oh shit, would not have guessed you could have done that in 1 month as a natty. Good work, keep it up.

>>39609207
>pancakes (100% with a shitload of syrup)

fucking kek
i think y'all are being too hard on him but you pointing out this detail made me laugh out loud

>>39609238
>seeing TRT doc tomorrow morning.
Finally gonna get that script? Good luck man. I know it'll be a load off your mind - hopefully you don't have to PCT ever again.

>>39610214
>make round 60k-100k
what's the starting capital you make 60-100k off of?

not that impressive if you start off with 10 mil, very impressive if you start with 10k

just curious. i lost like 25k on HTBX recently so iktfb
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