/fraud/

>>39588960
sup

went to the pharmacy

the only needles they had in 1.5" were 23g. any smaller (25-27g) were all .5", 5/8" or 1"

fug I don't want to pin with 23gauges

>>39589014
i bhought 27g 1.5" needles from amazon.

i can give you the link if you want to. Its shipped from germany tho

>>39589014
lol i've always pìnned with 23g

When should I do my babies first test E cycle? Should I hot as benchmarks first, or just dive in?

>>39588960
Can someone tell me how to find a source for my first cycle? Preferably one that takes btc.

>>39589081
This. 23 isn't bad. Stuff bigger than that can be a pain.

>>39589124
i used 21 for draw and 23 for pin since day 1 and never had a problem

>>39589118
forgot to add. US domestic.

>>39589124
>>39589135
Is 25g 1" enough for quads?

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>>39589135
23g draw 25g pin Master race reporting in.
>>39589118
Same place you buy any drug with btc.

>>39589150
>1" for quads
"no"

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>>39589014
1in is fine little buddy - I just pinned VG this morning with a 1in 25g.

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whats with the stupid "cycle" meme?

>hurr go cold turkey and completely fuck your hormones, cortisol, emotions, etc and completely shit yourself for 10-12 weeks till you finally half recover, then go blast again

fine

>take 50mg of test a week for 12-15 weeks which is on the low end and be stable and functional, if a bit below average

NOOO UR RECEPTORS WONT BE RESET HURR, ARTIFICIAL TEST IS DIFFERENT FROM NATURAL HURR DURR

>>39589150
Yeah. As long as you aren't a fatty.
I manage to pin quads fine with a 5/8"

>>39589150
it's the same, just will be slower

>>39589158
>same place you buy any drug with btc
Well I bought DNP with btc by email(Dinitro), but I assume you mean darkweb. Is reddit sst a good option?

>>39589150
i pin quads with 27g 1.5".

I go only 1" in tho

>>39589169
i srsly dont understand what you mean

>>39589196

armchair broscientists recommend going completely natty for 12 weeks to reset your receptors to gear.

Cruising stable at 50mg however they claim doesn't work and will not reset your receptors even though that is literally the test level of a beta virgin.

Don't really see how you can't comprehend such a simple post.

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>>39589238
hmm i agree.

but cruisin on 50mg between blasts? i dont know senpai, i thought 250 was the way to go.

>>39589269
250mg is way above natty levels unless you're an incredibly poor responder

you can't cruise for life on 250mg without risk.

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>>39589158
>23g draw 25g pin Master race reporting in.

same

>>39589291
i am aware its way above natty, but i thought that was the way to go
500 blast, 250 cruise, thats what i always heard from BnCers

>>39589085
Just fucking dive in if you are serious about getting jacked man. Best shit I ever did.

>22g draw, 25g pin

How's everyone doing tonight lads?

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>>39589177
I think sst is retarded. Darknet markets all day.
>>39589293
I do use 23g 1.5" in my glutes sometimes.
>>39589333
Kinda want to drink. Still undecided.

>>39589291
if u give a shit about risk why are u doing steroids

>>39589398
because when done right it's actually pretty risk free

doesn't mean you need to go yolo and essentially go on years long blasts, cruising on supraphysiological amounts because broscientists told you to cruise on what happens to be exactly 1ml on most ampoules/vials of test e/c for convenience sake

Rate my cycle, lol.

100 mg test e 2x/week
100 mg deca 2x/week
10 mg winstrol pre and post workout
10 mg nolva daily

Will test make me less of a socially awkward beta faggot?

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>>39589492

You don't need roids to fix that just improve yourself and learn to hold yourself in higher regard

>>39588517

It's not me. I work sales and have worked in sales not online but irl I'm comfortable around all sorts of douche bags.

I just don't like clubs, I meet my womens in the grocery store/online dating etc

That said I'm in fraud so clearly I know that 'jacked douchebags' is a meme.

I actually think your typical bodybuilder is friendlier than your typical guy. I assume it's because they have higher self esteem and do better on average with women than your typical guy, however of course there are outliers.

>>39588705

No problem with drinking, just read up that booze hurts gains so I stopped drinking.

Actually had 2 drinks, haven't drank for so long that I'm drunk as a skunk, 14 year old white girl mode achieved

Feeling good though .

>>39588425

Bruh I'm so sorry lol.

I've been going great. Work is going great. Business is booming.

I think maybe the progress I've made with my body has made me even happier and more motivated with work and that's why business is going so well.

It's good to hear from you I was getting worried recently.

Anyways I'm still at the casino when I get home I will show you proggies from this month and last month, promise there is noteable difference.

>>39588261

So I actually it turns out the casino comped my dad 500 bucks in casino bucks that are good at any casino store and expire in a month.

So he got me some 90 dollar designer swim trunks with his casino bucks

Really appreciative how much my family did for me as a kid/does for me rn desu feels really lucky

>>39589512
I try, anon.

I just say dumb retarded shit or am awkwardly quiet

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>>39589512
Whatcha drinkin?

>want to start 2nd cycle already
>kickstarting with dbol and can't avoid drinking during the holidays
fug

1 more month

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>>39589546

Mcallan whiskey

The casino is really nice to my dad man. Comped him a room with two beds, we are in a 'vip' area with free booze, still have 390 casino bucks to spend.

We spent 20 on some comedy club thing we'll report back

>>39589311
1250mg per week for 14 weeks. You'll know your performance has been "enhanced". I assure you.

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>>39589612
>Mcallan
Damnit and I am craving scotch too ughhh

>do test level tests during pct
>tfw can get a good estimate of how fast I recover
nice

>>39589694

I guess I'm just not that much of adrunker

I'm pretty stupidd as is so why drink and make myself stupid lmfao

>>39589512
>>You don't need roids to fix that just improve yourself and learn to hold yourself in higher regard

what if you literally don't deserve to be held in higher regard

>>39588960
Anyone got a clen cycle to share?
How effective is it?

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>>39589784
>I guess I'm just not that much of adrunker
You just need practice! >>39589823
Why don't you deserve to be held in high regard?

>>39589832
don't use clen xF

>>39589839
5'9 manlet, no life experience, no life, only act non-beta but deep down i am a little bitch kid

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>>39589853
Height is not that important and experience comes with age. Believe in yourself!

>>39589897
don't post men

>>39589897
yeah but believing in myself doesn't change who i actually am and the fact that i have spent 80% of my free time playing video games and the rest studying nerd shit

the height isn't even that big of a deal, it just adds on to it

I gotta know, does anyone have sauce?
>>39588111

>>39589823

Work to improve yourself to the point where you can hold yourself in high regard

For me, it was starting my business. That's when I started doing well with women because the confidence

>>39589839

Bro you've seen my body! No booze! I SHREDDED SOOn

Muh protein sysnthethis

Also dude this comedy act is horrible. Crying level. There's a cute girl alone in the back my drink just came I'ma go give her some company

Edit: she told me to get lost lel

There's so many smoking hot chicks here man

If anyone is near Mohegan sun they should check it out

First time I've been to a casino and like it

>>39589853

Bro self improvement = confidence

I used to have 0 self esteem got bullied in middle school etc improving myself saved my life

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>>39589897
>Height is not that important
haha yeah tell that to all the girls that turn me down once they realise I'm a manlet

>>39589930
i dont even give a shit about girls because the possibility of any form of life considering my existence to be anything but a disgusting waste of oxygen seems absurd to me

like my "stance" towards GFs and friends and shit like that is just that they would be humiliated for people to know they are remotely associated with me in any way

i don't even want that kind of stuff because this is how i feel about it

i've tried to change my ways of thinking and get random internet people to talk me out of it, doesn't work

i even think about how my familys dog must want to kill itself because it takes orders from me, a pathetic piece of shit. must be the biggest shame for that dog

>>39589930
>>I used to have 0 self esteem got bullied in middle school etc improving myself saved my life
the thing is i've never gotten bullied or whatever, people don't fuck with me for some reason, even darkies when i walk through hoods

>>39589975
Same, anon. I think it's because people pity us. Hell, I used to work retail, and I was the go to when someone was pissed because after like 10 seconds they wouldn't be so pissed anymore

>tudca is obtained by inserting a catheter into a bear's gallblader or just outright killing it
what the fuck guys

that's not cool

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>>39589968
>i dont even give a shit about girls because the possibility of any form of life considering my existence to be anything but a disgusting waste of oxygen seems absurd to me

>>39590004
yeah i am so euphoric in my shitty existence

>>39590004
that's not really a fedora thing, fedoras don't put themselves down like that

maybe an emo kid pic or something

>>39589968

If it doesn't work I'm not gonna waste my time

>>39589897

Bruh lamo I yelled 'you suck' at the top of my lungs and left before security could remove me

Check out these trunks man STYLIN

That guy was seriously the worst fucking comedian I have ever heard

My dad and I bet a dollar on if a couple that left 2 minutes into the show was coming back and bet they weren't and I'm 100% sure I won the bet LOL

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>>39589916
ikr

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>>39590020

Whoops

Ninety dollar trunks brah

I FANCY

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>>39589916
>>39590023
Pshhhhh
>>39589930
>There's a cute girl alone in the back my drink just came I'ma go give her some company
>Edit: she told me to get lost lel
Kek
>>39589958
So go for short girls?
>>39590028
Lmao that's insane for swimming trunks

>>39590028
I would judge the shit out of you for wearing that

>>39590037

It's casino bucks

My dad got 500 free casino bucks

It's like money you get to spend at casino stores

The idea is he gets lured into there and he losss more than 500 gambeling and they make money lel

We also got a hotel room

I'm so glad I came with pops we have tons of fun

>>39590046

Oh no oh no people are gonna judge me 1111

Ima cry myself 2 sleep

>>39590023
He's cute

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>>39590037
that woman has muscles, that's like, a masculine trait

you like masculinity, breh? that what gets your goat?

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>>39590066
Did you just assume that person's gender?

>>39589476
why would you pct and take sterons at the same time?

>>39590089
stupid

not as bad as that dude's cycle but still, stupid

>>39590084
I'm a simple man who likes pretty boys

>>39590101
why was my post stupid, enlighten me anon

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>>39590111
I can respect that, I'm just not sure how the subject came up.

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>>39590059
Nice dude.
I used to go play poker a lot at the casino but haven't been in years.
>>39590072
I love beautiful women and perfect human form. <3
And seriously you are gonna preach to me about "manly" women when you post all these girls with the same haircut I had when I was 10...

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>>39590140
Damn, you had some nice haircuts.

My haircuts always sucked.

>>39590130
he's not pcting, taking a serm doesn't mean you're pcting.

he's just using it as a ghetto anti-estrogen

>>39590140
Also, I opened that image and all I saw were those pointy, terminally bowed legs, surgery or wheelchair before 40, 2/10wncw

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>>39590148
>Damn, you had some nice haircuts.
They were meh. My hair now is pretty bad ass =P
>>39590162
Pshhhhh she can still get it

>>39590140

I don't gamble lol

My dad was trying to teach me craps but that shit was so confusing

Only thing I know how to play is Texas hold 'em

I just got back from the pool. Shit was FREEZING man. Horrible. So cold.

>>39590223

Also If you like beautiful women come to the casino lmfao

They are everywhere and dressed super slutty

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is this right

>>39590245

Idk man ask cat piss

He has to account for nearly a GOSAD why do you think he needs so much DNP

#airhorn etc

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>>39590234
>Texas hold 'em
That's a game of skill not luck.
>>39590237
>Also If you like beautiful women come to the casino lmfao
>They are everywhere and dressed super slutty
Ya but they are gonna try to steal all my shekels!

>>39590317

>game of skill not luck

Exactly why I like it.

I know how to play some Russian card games too but it's hard to find people to play them with lol

>>39590317

So they are like women everywhere else kek? Except these ones are smoking

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>tfw been cutting since november 10 for insane aesthetics for christmas/new years parties
>realize too late that the nightclubs I go to will have 50% male indians instead of mostly white 60% female demographic

Man, there goes my month. At least I'll be ripped as shit on jan 1 while everyone is fat as fuck/permabulked and jelly.

>>39591080
Why are you discouraged? Show those poo in loos your superior white genetics and get those white women.

>>39591146

But the place will be overcrowded as fuck with poo in loos, how can you enjoy it?

Single women/friends who want to party will be discouraged after seeing 50% pajeet males in the nightclub, so that leaves only women who were dragged along by their BFs or whatever.

>>39591159
The single women who want to party will be discouraged seeing the pajeets until you appear brah. You will be like a Greek god standing tall among the sea of foul smelling poo in loos.

Hey fraud blasting 750 test and my blood pressure is dangerously high, how do i lower this shit as fast as possible?

>>39590028
I got a shirt from walmart with the same pattern for $10.98

>>39591513
How high is it?

Cardio, diet, coq10, fish oil, potassium, garlic, hawthorn berry etc etc

You should always take those supplements anyway. I would say that coq10 is the most effective

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Hey guys, did my competition.

I won 1st in heavyweight.
1st in classic 6'3

Overall in classic amateur.

In officially a pro body builder.

It feels weird saying that.

Just thought I'd stop by and show you guys some love.

>>39591636
gz mate

>>39591636
lookin good gratz

>>39591644
>>39591656
Ty guys!

It feels surreal.

Best peptides or supplements for healing besides hgh and deca? I have a shoulder injury i need to get repaired, im on tren, test and deca right now. What can i do to help get this bad boy healed up?

>>39591636
You look amazing man. Good job! mirin

>>39591636
>roiding to win a natty competition
that guy doesn't even have delts

>>39591714

>competition
>natty

spot the jelly 20% bf lurker

>>39591714
Classic aint natty competition in US m8

>>39591726
>>39591743
>delts are literally a straight line
>completely underdeveloped quads
>still has a trophy
mhm

>>39591786
I assume youre talking about the manlet in the picture. Hes still bigger than you ayy

>>39591786
he also literally does not have calves

all around completely shit, natty body

>roiding to beat this

>>39591815
>amateur competition
>expecting people to look like ifbb pros
do you even bodybuilding

>>39591823
I'm not "expecting" anything. you can see by the trophy on the ground that that guy got second place. that completely, ridiculously unimpressive natty body got 2nd place.

>roiding to win a natty competition

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>>39591636
>>39591659
Sick dude. Congratulations!
Anyone manage to get more pics?

>>39591835
Its overall, you can clearly see these people dont belong in the same category. perhaps every manlet in the competetion was natty kek

>>39591835
autist

or drunk

or not dealing with some clogged up emotional shit

but can't tell for sure

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>>39591680
I would recommend cjc1295, mk677, tb500, and bpc157. Honestly can't think of a better healing stack although the gh secretagouge choices are slightly debateable.

>>39591858
I read that you will have tb500 but will you also stock bpc157?

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Why not stop the roids and become the cute girl you've always wanted to be instead?

Should I cut before my first cycle? I'm at 16%+ bf.

>>39590037
>So go for short girls?
please end this meme
short girls prefer lanklets too

Just drew for a pin, but I forgot to wipe the vial beforehand, hasn't happened before. Worth the risk? Pls respond quick

>>39592583
hard to say bruh. I personally would draw again and just not have alzheimer in the future

>>39592707
Chucked it out, $10 of test probably wasn't worth an abcess

Pinning quads with a hangover is hell

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>>39592768
I almost always forget to swab my skin as I have usually just woken up.

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>>39591837
There's a ton.

I had a lot of people taking pics of me.

The Manlet I took a pic with won his division because he's over 50 years old.

The organization I'm competing in (GBO) is relatively new.


There wasn't much competition from the get go.

It's really not as impressive as IFBB or NPC, I understand this.

This is my first show ever too.

Anyway, becoming a pro isn't even that big of a deal anyway.

>>39592877
looking good bro (no homo)
the manlet also looks p sick for being 50+ (no homo)
what did you take going into the show?

>>39592877

>using AAS so you can go and beat natties in as small local comp for natties

lol man cmon

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>>39592894
Probably way more than I needed to for being a first show.

At the beginning:
Tren ace: 75mg E/D
Mast P: 75mg E/D
Test P: 50mg E/D
Methanabol: 20mg E/D

Later on about 3 or so weeks out I added in Primo (17.5mg E/D)

I was limited in the primo so I started low dosage and worked to 50mg E/D a few days before the show.

I took out mbol and test p eventually about right 10 days out to eliminate water.

I added in winny to replace Mbol (75mg E/D)

I added in EQ cuz I had some laying around at around week 4 (150 mg E/D)

I dropped EQ a day or two before the show.

I started Clen about 2 weeks or so out at 80mcg-120mcg E/D before cardio.

For AI I was taking letro, and aromasin.

I tanked my estro to come in dry.

I think that's it.

>>39592913
It's cool bro, you can sit there behind the computer trying to put me down all you want but in all reality the only thing it's doing is making people know that you have such a low self esteem you feel the need to put other others down when they haven't even done anything to you.

It's a shame. Not because I care whether you're impresse, but because it makes it evident that you have something going on in your life that you feel shitty.

No one who feels good about themselves feels a need to put others down.

I hope whatever you're dealing with passes, and that you can have a more positive outlook.

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>>39592948
Fuck those dyel maggots. With their 2/10 baiting shit skills. You look insane, that's all what matters. I am mirin and jelly

How can you even take them seriously with there 12 inch noodle arms, but muhh tren muhh zyzz. fucking losers

Enjoy your achievements. i hope you will be great bodybuilder. GET BIG. Get us proud

WE ELL GENNE MEKE IT

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HOLY SHIT

Roelly got it all

1.hair
2.gains
3.beard

I AM MAD AF

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>>39592981
Hahaha I love you bro.

I did all while in school. Getting straight A's too.

This offseason I'm going to focus on getting my calves to blow up and gotta work my inner thighs. Looking at pics I wasn't impressed with my inner leg development and calves were always pethatic.

>>39593019
What are you studying? Nice. If you really want to achieve something you can do it.

I am in the same boat as you breh. I am also focusing on my calves with this up coming bulk. We didn't get free calves like fat people. No freebees

Back looks really thick imo. mirin

>>39593060
Thanks man!

I'm studying exercise science.

I was always that skinny WoW nerd. Sitting down all day did nothing for my calves lol.

I appreciate the kind words bud.

>>39593019
I would love to see you on dat der GH. Phenomenal results broseph. How do you feel on stage with nuked estro levels?

>>39593119
It wasn't too bad, my sex drive is gone. It's weird looking at women and not even thinking about having sex with them. Actually refreshing desu.

My estro levels must not have been too low because my joints weren't hurting.

Besides that I was ok cuz I used an Addy in the morning to make sure I stayed focused

What are the different moa for testosterone?

>>39593161
snorting 2 lines of test base preworkout faM

>>39593135
> It's weird looking at women and not even thinking about having sex with them.
that's how I feel like right now as a natty. Not refreshing anymore after 2 months without masturbating.

Non-estrogenic bulking steroids? Is sdrol top dog for that?

>>39592768
lol what. did you draw 5ml of test?

no way you had 10$ in that vial lmao

>>39592877
did they test you for cattle hormones

After this cycle I've only PCT + 10 weeks of until I was planning on starting a summer recomp/cut cycle.

Would I be better if just cruising on TRT doses instead in the meantime, compared to the stress of PCT?

Or should I just delay the summer cycle until later, for proper recovery?

>>39590023
Hey fatlifts. Are you swole now? Last time i frequented fit was a couple of years ago and then you were a fat fucking indian piece of shit taking dnp. Did you ever make it or are you just a disgusting hamplanet waste of space.

>>39593543
you frequented fraud years ago, are you swole now?

>>39593550
I am, but i also am not natty because of this.

>>39593550
oh shit

>>39593553
I'm natty though.

>>39593576
That wasnt my question. Did you fucking make it or not? Im genuinely interested, i saw some of your progress pics back in the day i thought you were gonna git swul

>>39593553
good job bud.

afaik fatlifts is still a pleb

>>39593582
I didn't ask you what your question was.

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>>39593592
aka you still no willpower slob tier. Keep on truckin m80

Hey fraud I'm going up run my first test e cycle here in a month or so.
I'm at about 15% BF, should i do a little cut before my cycle and drop a few % or just be bulky af by the end of my cycle.
How does cutting after a cycle work? Wait until after i pct?

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>>39593608
I'm going to start feeling self conscious about only losing nearly 200lbs because I haven't gotten around to losing the last ~80.

Was I in here being critical of anyone? Fuck yourself then.

>>39593532
general census

cruise > cycling

>>39593627
obviously cut

>>39593635
Ey man, I was just asking and you were not answering so i had to trigger you. Good job on that 200 tho, i had no idea.

>>39588960
I read a study about people with micropenis and hypogonadism taking hcg which managed to increase their penis size by 1 inch albeit from 2 to 3 inches which is still not a normal range but it managed to increase testicular size to a normal level and increase their testosterone to around the midrange of the normal level.

Does anyone have experience with hcg? Can it increase your "natural" production or is it just good for curing shrinked balls from juicing? Also, would it somehow affect your pituitary gland and prevent your natural hcg production?

tfw when i get depressed i get semi-anorexia and cant eat anything because the depression makes me so nauseous

only forcing myself to eat 1g/lb in protein. just ate 250 calories of ham (out of chicken) and feel like i wanna vomit

time to lose all my roid gains starving myself on 100 test

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I think I'm around ~11% bf right now, is it acceptable to take 250mg test/w, cut down to 8-9% and then bulk up with 500mg + dbol? First time using roids and thinking of B&Cing from the get go.

>>39593752
HCG does raise testosterone

>>39593775
if you BnC, yes then do that.

>>39593760
why are you depressed tho

>>39593811
I've als got var. Should I use 50mg for 4 weeks when cutting or use it for a bulk?

Why are steroids so fucking expensive?

>>39593866
Cause you're a poorfag.

>>39593866
i paid 190$ for 4 months, and thats Ai included.

Burgers pay even less

>>39593866
they are cheap as fuck for what you are getting, are you retarded? they literally cost less than natties spend on supplements

>>39593901
>>39593897
So 10 ml [200mg/ml] Tren-E for 74€ isnt expensive?

>>39593775
Imo, I would do 125 mg Test-E, 100mg Tren-E to cut down to 8-9%

Slight caloric deficit, cardio 30 mins EOD. (Low intensity, heart rate around 120)

Climb calories back up to slight surplus (surplus should come from 50% protein and 50% carbs), bump Test E up to 500mg, switch Tren for Deca, and eliminate the Dbol unless you are trying to get stronger specifically.

>>39593950
>tren

kys

>uhm bro so 1 vial of igf-1 costs 4000$, so roids arent expensive?

>>39593532
>>39593636

Been on 500iu HCG e4d on the cycle/blast. How much should I consider to be on during cruise? 250iu ew?

Was planning on cruising on TRT dosage, of about 150mg Test/week

>>39593950
nerds spend hundreds of dollars on video games. if you live in a shit ass country also that's not roids fault.

in the US tren can be as cheap as like $55 for 10ml 250mg/ml

>>39594110
Sorry for living in losernation...
I just asked...

>>39592933
Breddy gud, I prefer the full high-nandrolone look personally.

>>39593987
Not sure if I'm ready for the tren though. Guess I'll suck it up and diet a bit longer then.

Also my goal is partly to get stronger. Should I use var for this cut or save it?

>>39594110
thats funny because i can buy tren for 45€.

but pay 40€ for test

>>39594007
sorry cant help you with that.

>>39593838
i know nothing about var bro

>implying you got legit var in the first place

OKAY SOMEONE LINK ME TO THE SUBREDDIT MADE FOR DRUGS

i wanna buy sum lsd urgently

>>39594219
>implying you got legit var in the first place
var isn't faked that much anymore, this batch is 96% pure confirmed by jano

>tfw new source sold me 200x50mg caps for 60 quid
feels really nice

>>39594219
Thougts on a 150mg Test Cruise tho?
Not expecting any significant progress, just to not lose any gains but bloat (from Dbol) and maybe the subsequent strength

Recommending any Roid for newb?
test only?
How much should i take and how much should i pay?
thank you guys. :3

>>39593901

>implying all natties are stupid enough to buy supplements

I only use vitamin D and that's because I work 70-80-90 hours a week indoors glued to a computer screen so I need it

>>39594283
150mg for first cruise, or just general cruise dose between blasts?

>>39594285
test e 250mg every 3rd day.

aromasin on hand

You pay as much as your source demands


> :3

kill yourself

>>39594110
>55 for 10ml
Lmao
Getting ripped off

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>>39592948
Can't really hate you. Should really hate the game helped created by this Jew though.

Good for you for being successful in it at least.

>>39594307
First cruise period. Even tho I've seen people usually go for ~250mg/w, I figured I'd still be able to keep my gains and positive mood much better compared to doing PCT.

I'm planning on cycling off w a PCT after the summer "blast" if it'd matter.

>>39594320
the amount of money i spend on roids relative to what i spend on other shit + what i get out of roids, makes saving a few $$$ here and that completely insignificant. plus i dont want to get scammed by some shitty new labs intro post to save a few dollars

but how much do you pay then? for tren e, not ace

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>>39592177
>will you also stock bpc157?
Eventually but not currently.
>>39592487
>short girls prefer lanklets too
K
>>39592877
>>39592933
You planning on doing any ifbb shows?


Ughhhh I pulled something in my neck last night. Can barely turn my head. Fug this shit sucks hard.

>>39594307
And how long i have to take it?

>>39594367
30-35

>>39594389
forever

>>39594362
hmm people always say 250mg between blasts, but this one anon has me doubting this so im actually debating on the cruise dose myself.

you'd be safer with 150mg. Cant say anything about the gains you lose, but i assume i'd be minimal and much less compared to a real PCT


>>39594389
16 weeks

>>39594367
i think he brews

>>39594464
i say as high test as you can without having to use ai, but still no higher than 250 mg/w

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All I have on hand is etodolac. Is this shit any good brehs?

>tfw balance druid is cool as fuck, but sucks ass in every aspect of the game apparently

>>39594488
hmm not sure if Ai should play a role in that.

I mean i dont need Ai on 250mg, but i still have a feeling i should cruise on 150 once im done with my blast.

Dunno desu, gotta do more research on this. This one anon said cruising on 250 for too long can cause shit to happen

>>39594376
dunno why you're blowing dudes for money when you have your jew powder to shill
jk
edit: this was a mk677 sponsored post

>>39594507
i ran a team of 5 multi boxxing balance druids.

i think palas and enhance shamans are pretty good in legion

>>39594512
ais fuck you up so i think its a good idea to take a break from them on your cruises at least
all you need to do is get a blood test if youre paranoid
nothing mysterious is going to happen from being on 250 for too long, might not be great for your cholesterol depending on your lifestyle but it wont be too bad either
you may need to donate blood every once in a while to keep your red blood cell count in check though

>>39594528
yeah but i am sick of playing brainless melee classes. they are 5x easier to win with but it's just boring winning by mashing your atrophied roidballs on the keyboard

i miss casters being good in pvp outside of voice-coordinated 3s

>>39594504
Get drunk

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>>39594602
I did that last night lol.
I just took 400mg etodolac and some thc infused coconut oil and I'm gonna smoke a bowl and see how that goes.
I really need a massage or something.
Have no idea what I did. Was doing ohp last night and tweaked something in my neck =(

>>39594646
So you can't drink today?
Smdh

You strain it back or something

>>39594553
im the exact opposite.

i love over powered brainless noob classes that stomp everything in both pvp and pve.

>>39594544
thanks for output

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I always forget my trip

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>>39594688
>So you can't drink today?
Ya nah. I'm really trying to cut back. I want this next blast to be good.
>You strain it back or something
Nah man. Legit no idea what happend. I was staring myself in the mirror at the gym when I was pressing and it's not like I turned my head or did anything funny but about halfway through the rep I felt something give in my neck and then it just got super tight and painful the rest of the night into today.

>>39594767
you samefaggin' breh?

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>>39594783
no i just forgot my trip on these posts

>>39594753
>>39594528
>>39594512
>>39594464
>>39594307
>>39594219

>>39594853
what are you trying to hide

>>39588960

So While we're talking about sex drive... I'm natty so it's not me fucking up with forgetting PCT coming off BNC or anything but my sex drive is so messed up.

There are times like when I was dating my ex we would fuck 2,3,4,5 times a day (11 times one day), times even like a year back I would be horny 24/7, hitting on girls nonstop, getting laid, etc etc.

And recently my sex drive is in the toilet, I look at 9/10 bitches dressed like sluts when I go out and I'm like 'oh wow that's very pretty great hips nice proportional tits very symmetric face' but the idea of having sex with them doesn't occur to me.

It's very similar to when I look at men here on fraud and I think 'wow, great inserts,good size' you get it.

Old me would look at that and be in her face clumsily hitting on her in a heart beat.

New me just wants to go on fit and shitpost and maybe take my shirt off in the mirror and flex and stare at myself.

Is it time to get a female hormone panel? Did I crash my test levels somehow as a natty?

I'll ask fir as a whole of no one reads my wall of crap I just trust you guys more

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Omg this thing is my new best friend right now.

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Have you guys ever noticed lowered libido from mast? It feels like it's fucking with me in a bad way and I saw a guy on reddit had the same experience.

>>39594933
no one can answer you that.

there are so many many many many possible reasons why your libido decreased

low test is just one of them.

if you feel low test, then yeah go to doc (if ur not murican that is) and tell him you have dead dick and he will get a blood test for you.

>>39595217

I am American. How does that change things. Need female hormone panel from private lab? I have obamacare, it is very expensive, I haven't used it yet but I sure hope it covers a $69 test

>>39595253
it doesn't

>>39595267

Sigh man.

Just fuck my shit up.

23 year old male, non smoker, never drink, never get sick, never need medical care, 7% bodyfat, low resting heart rate, never eat processed food, NEVER HAD TO USE MEDICAL CARE OR GOTTEN SICK IN MY LIFE OTHER THAN COMMON COLD.

AND THEY ASSRAPE ME AND WONT PROVIDE ME WITH A 69 DOLLAR HORMONE PANEL?

KEK
E
K

REEE

FUCK

>>39595295
>7% bodyfat
Yeah, okay.

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How much aromasin would risk crashing estrogen? I have it but haven't been using it consistently as I maybe should have. Haven't found as much about managing estro. Read the doses needed vary widely by the indiviual. Also that it can take a few weeks to recover from a crash.

Been about 6 weeks into first cycle 500 test e. Had slight acne for a while. Didnt really get any other sides till 5 days past when my libido just tanked and started feeling a bit more tired. Yet my lips have been really dry which I've only seen listed as a low estro side.

>>39595386

>that one guy that argues with a dexa scan

>>39595295
>natty
>7% bodyfat
>WHY IS MY LIBIDO LOW
gee, guy

>>39595295
obamacare is basically just there to stop you from going bankrupt if you ever get into a significant accident and would normally get 100-200k in hospital bills

>>39595423

It's 7.76% when I got scanned.

Is that really low enough to fuck my libido?

I hate how I look at 9-10%. I just bulk to 9 and then cut to like 7.5 and repeat. Very small cuts, very small bulks. Bulk one month, cut one month, etc.

I'm literally going to start frauding if I can't be lean and have libido that's... cruel.

>>39595476
Not as a natty

>>39595476
>Is that really low enough to fuck my libido?
absolutely

>>39595544

What's the lowest I can keep it and have libido?

At 10%+ I start to feel low self esteem/fat and it impairs my ability to score with women... they smell the insecurity on me.

As you guys know, if you're natty and don't have a shitload of muscle on your frame (and unfortunately, I don't) you don't look shredded at all unless you get down to 7s and 8s

>>39595582
You going to post CB pics? I'm really doubting you're 7%.

>>39595582
Lol all of this is tied to how women perceive you. Get better hobbies or a more interesting personality and being 12% won't affect your weird neurotic behavior.

Like just get some balls.

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>>39595635

>>39593381
10AUD is 1ml

>>39595423
This. I was astounded by the libido gains on my first bulk.

Life is just generally better when bulking.
Unless you have to tie your shoes, or look in the mirror.

>>39595616

Nah I'm super insecure about my body and the only people that see me with my shirt off are ones sucking my dick or I am in the locker room changing or at the beach

Not enough muscle mass on it for me. I will post CB for you in the years to come when I get to the size I want to be at.

It's strange, I look at myself in the mirror and I"m like 'DUDE YOURE HUGE YOU SHOULD COMPETE'

And then I take a photo of myself and I realize I'm small and tiny.

I don't know why I look so diffrent in mirror than photos

Anyways I got scanned at 7.76% at the end of a cut. I suspect I've hit 7.5%.

The reason I keep it so low is as you know, with a moderate amount of muscle mass on your body, you can actually look a lot more ripped/shredded than you are in reality simply by keeping 8%-7.5% body fat...

This isn't rocket science. Nor is it hard to keep body fat so low natty. Read up about carb cycling and PSMF.

I don't use PSMF even, much if at all.

>>39595635

I have dysmorphia anon. I have hobbies. I'm a bodybuilder. Clearly. Look at the board I'm posting on.

>intresting personality

I think what by far has helped me the most with women is success with my professional life (I work in real estate).

I do gud with grills and I associate that with my career and professional success

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FUCK eating pizza every single day was a bad idea.

my core is so bloated lmao, it looks shit unless im flexing.

thank god im BnCing

>>39595727
Take a bunch of pics m8. Even if you don't share them here. I regret not having "before" photos to compare too.

>>39595757
>FUCK eating pizza every single day was a bad idea.
Great bulking food though.

>>39595757
don't go blaming pizza like that, pizza wouldn't do that to you.

>>39595757

CHAD takes STEROIDS and EATS PIZZA and makes HUGE GAINS while you WATCH MACROS and EAT OATS and CHICKEN BREAST and gain less LBM eating PERFECT for years than he does eating PIZZA and taking STEROIDS for 16 WEEKS

>>39595757
Eugene detected

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>>39595807
alex?

i take steroids
i eat pizza
i make huge gains
i dont watch macros

am i chad now?

>>39595788
aye, im scared to not get everything out of my blast, so im eating pizza errday lol.

>>39595845

yeah yeah it's me.

How are you moosey.

I'm seriously regretting drinking last night.

It's been so long since I drank that my system just doesn't know how to process it and I feel like dying the next day.

I never used to get hangovers when I drank every day

Plus shit is bad for gains. I promise everyone here I won't drink again until I'm a sickcunt

>>39595895
i feel bored. so bored im actually looking forward to work tomorrow

>when i drank everyday

yeah, your a slav

>>39595913

Kek.

I'm watching the game. Was like 30 mins behind.

After that I'm gonna go sit in the bath, grab my phone, and shitpost and maybe post some bait threads.

I have a super relaxing routine, draw a bath, grab my phone, shit post as hard as I can, answer some ebay questions.

After that I'm doing some cardio and then I gotta test some hard drives that came in the mail and box up some packages. Also have to fill out a laptop bid. (Purchasing).

Then I'm gonna pass out the fuck out.

Really messed up last night. 3 hours of sleep. Booze.

Highly recommend bath +shitposting. Most relaxing combo in the world.

>>39595913
>bored
Jelly. I don't have time to be bored. Aren't enough hours in the day.

>>39595950
Why bathe then do cardio? Seems counter productive.

>>39595582
>At 10%+ I start to feel low self esteem/fat

You need mental help.

>>39595973

The bath is just for fun/enjoyment not to get clean. Not very expensive like a shower, I just draw the bath and then that's it.

I actually abuse the gym big time. Hot water is expensive so I can't take hot showers for an hour etc like you can baths. (I'm really really really cheap).

Anyways after each workout I like to take hour, 90 minute showers on high heat because hey it's not my water bill.

My gym membership is !SIXTY! dollars a month, at least I get my money's worth out of it.

There's some nice facilities though, a pool, a hot tub, etc

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ATTENTION: PUMPKIN SEED OIL UPDATE

Never have to pee anymore. Which is awesome
Blood pressure down
Joints feel lubricated

ATTENTION: PUMPKIN SEED OIL UPDATE

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Lol someone actually went into comet ping-pong in DC with a fucking assault rifle? Jesus this pizzagate shit is getting out of hand.

>>39596310
How much are you taking?

>>39596129
>I actually abuse the gym big time. Hot water is expensive
I know what you mean. I shower most days at the gym. and I only pay $25 every quarter.

I'm pretty sure I cost my gym money.

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>>39596386
Jesus, making me feel bad. Mine is $84 but it's got all kinds of shit since it's a lifetime fitness.

>>39596371
the worst part of being a trump supporter is being associated with people like them

>>39596405
>that ass
Damn.

Yeah. Mine isn't the best. Only one squat rack and two benches. Tons of useless machines.

It's hard to argue with $8.33 a month though.

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>>39596476
Mine has 7 half racks, 1 full squat rack, 5 flat benches, 1 incline, and 1 decline. Yet somehow they're almost always full with retards flailing around or half repping.

>>39596508
That sucks. My gym is pretty small, so I'm almost never waiting for equipment, unless I go after work during peek liftan hours.

>>39596020
his 10% is probably more like realities 20%

dexa scans are shit for gauging what you actually look like

Almost done my first cycle of test e. Only 2 weeks remaining of 12 weeks.

Should I just add two or more weeks since Ill have more oil left?

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>>39596371
ATTENTION: PUMPKIN SEED OIL UPDATE

I am taking 2000mg ed

ATTENTION: PUMPKIN SEED OIL UPDATE

Thoughts on this cycle? Should I go for the low or high(er) dosage of orals?

1-16 Test E 250 mg E e4d - 440mg/w
1-14 NPP 100 mg eod - 350mg/w
1-6 Dbol 20/40mg
11-16 Anavar 40/60mg

>>39596596
How much oil is left? Since it's your first cycle I'd advice you to stick fairly close to the plan, adding 1-2 weeks would be fine, max 4 rly. Under the assumption you have sufficient AI, gear, etc for it.

>>39596648
I have one 10ml vial left, will be opening next time I pin.

Plenty of ai left.

>>39596624
I'd go for 125 eod as opposed to e4d.
If you haven't run the orals before you have to play it by ear.

>>39596386

Can some autist calculate how much money it costs for them to heat up the water to warmish for 60 minutes 7 days a week?

I'd feel better if I was costing my gym money. I don't know why I'm like that.

Maybe it's resentment that they charge me so much, but it's the only local gym.

Also the gym has 1 power cage and 1 squat rack, top kek. It's ok because there are like 2-3 others guys in the gym that do compounds other than bench press so we never have to fight over it

>>39596708
>125mg eod
Ah yeah that'd make sense lol, just switched from Deca to NPP in my planning, due to less shutdown etc.

Have ran dbol@40 previously, but not with Deca/NPP. Was considering doing the low dosage just to be safe etc, and have room for upping doses gradually I guess.

why am I getting the tfw no gf blues all of a sudden

usually random tinder sex is enough for me but now I'm really craving companionship

I'm blaming winter

>>39596716
Just googled it:
>The cost of a 10 minute shower is:132.475 liters, multiplied by the cost per heated liter of water $.0146612, or $1.9424 for the average ten-minute shower in Minneapolis, MN. If one person showered once a day for ten minutes the cost for one month (30 days) would equal: $58.27 per month.


>60 minutes
Do you seriously spend 60 minutes in the gym shower?

>>39592933
Y u no have chest striations, synthol?

>>39594376
What are you stocking? I've been off fraud a few days

>>39596371
Some people have strong opinions about pizza.

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Just done my first 150mg test injection inside the quads. No hestitation and dumped it inside. Do I now massage it or leave it? Is the pip going to be massive since it's virgin muscle?

Officialy fraud yay

>>39597452
Yeah. Probably walking with a limp tomorrow.

>>39597452
Yes it will hurt but don't worry

>>39597528
>>39597626
Leg day so that's going to be fun. Should I bother popping like 5mg asin EOD or just go by feel?

>>39597452
why are you injecting into quad?

>>39597653
Feel personally. Won't know how your body reacts until you find out. Some people get bitch tits on 200, others can run a gram without ai.

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I was thinking of taking aromasin to help me with with my pseudo gyno and decrease my estrogen a bit. I'm fat in places I'd like not to be but I'm not on any roids and I am working out regularly now. Thoughts? Good idea?

>>39597670
One of the biggest muscles, difficult to fuck it up.

>>39597679
no

lose the weight first

>>39597679
>pseudo

>>39597784
It's just fat

>>39597679
>pseudo gyno

you have tits, mate.

>>39597793
Pseudo means it's just fat, I'm pretty sure I have none of the symptoms of real gyno

>>39597679
You need to use aromasin long term (to have overall less estrogen) combined with raloxifene to try and minimize it. Blocking prolactin may also help depending on the person.

>>39597808
You definitely have gyno.

>>39594776
>>39594776

W H O ?
H
O
?

>>39597840
Have you felt my manboobs up when I was sleeping or something?

>>39597679
you're just a fat fuck. don't mess with your estro until you get rid of the fat. there may be real gyno under there, there may be not, but everything shown in this picture is just fat. lose weight.

>>39597784
>>39597793
>>39597840
no

>>39597827
nonsense. you don't need to use asin "long term" to lower (or even crash) your estro. there's a very significant chance that his high bodyfat% is also causing the estro, if it even is high.

raloxifene or tamoxifen alone would be fine to get rid of the gyno if there really is some.

Do you guys find that Steroids help with cns recovery?

I'm not too interested in getting massive as opposed to being able to perform better at my sport and recovery between training sessions is a bitch. Not getting max gains due to cns not being recovered enough. I can't train less than I am now.

Either way I'll be hopping on a cycle in March but my routine will change slightly if frauding helps with cns recovery

>>39596858

Yep.

So looks like they spend 300 a month on me, maybe more, since I turn the heat near the top range.

Smug feels.

As for why I spend an hour, I can just chill, it's pleasant, alone time senpai

Can someone explain roids and their limits to me? What's stopping someone from roiding to quickly reach the natty limit, then cutting off the test. Will their body rebel or will it stay at the natty limit long as they keep lifting at the same level?

Day 2 of dnp and i feel nothing, but warm ears. Whoever said stick to one pill a day for the first cycle is stupid, ill be taking 2 tomorrow because this is useless. If i still dont feel it and i gotta take 4 ill be pissed because i only bought 200 caps smdh.

>>39598053
There is no limit and yes that would work fine

>>39598076
0/10

>>39598082
So you're telling me if I roid up just to get to the natty limit, then just stop, my body's gonna stay at the same level as long as I keep lifting?
Why don't people do this more often?

>>39598131
How would you even know you're at you're natty limit?

>>39598149
A bodyfat% and amount of muscle mass that's just around the maximum for an average man who's been training for years

alright you fucks..

Trestolone.

any of you ppl in here tried it? worth it?
difference between all the other 19nors

or are we still in the baby cycles of 500 test a week.

>>39598466
one of the best compound you can get, if not the best

SUPER fucking expensive
SUPER fucking rare for anything other than acetate, and even that is very uncommon
estrogen is very hard to properly dial in

>>39598485
im guessing no experience? just google?

thanks for your input though.

and yeah it is fucking expensive. but i wanna be trendy and checks it out.

i jsut bought paninos meal plan and im gonna try it for a week has anyone else had it

>>39598514
I think the only person with trest experience in here is brick

too expensive for me, plus I aromatize like a bitch so I prefer keeping the test low and using other compounds like tren

>>39598111
What does that even mean? Are you saying dnp is a 0/10 and ive been wasting my time?

>>39598076
take it till you feel it thats never gone wrong before

>>39598527
im one of the genetically "gifted" as my coach would say.

i dont aromatize for shit. Even on test, tren and mast now, no probs with progest.


Anyways yeah for the price of trest, i don't think its worth it. Just wanted to see someones input from actually using it.

I'd rather spend it on growth than anything.

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How do you fucks deal with existential angst.

Don't know what Im doing with my life or why

Im getting bigger and leaner but like, I can tell it's never enough. Even if I get there, so what. It's better than being dyel I guess

I want to fuck qts but can't stand being around them. Settling for just my hand, the whole song and dance bullshit fucks with my head even further.

I just can't give a fuck about anything anymore. It's all fucking hollow.

This feeling grows every year.

Can't stand being around most people. And it's not like they do anything wrong or annoy me. Interaction just feels empty and pointless.

There's really nothing I want or need. Life isn't easy or hard.

Not trying to be fedora or whiney I genuinely feel like this is becoming an issue. It's a strange emotion. It's not directly painful or unpleasant, it's just sort of like an empty room or.a blank page. You can tell something is missing but I don't know what it is.

Sorry to post feels in the roids thread but I feel like most of you fucks in here that aren't complete retards might be able to relate. Again, not trying to whine or be the most edgy pseudointellectual. If someone knows something, please share.

>>39598544
yes

who even only uses 1 pill of dnp? take at least 1.5 gram a day

>>39598565
i actually mix mine up into some vodka and slam it lol it works a lot better that way

>>39598564
Get on some anti depressants or try some drugs. What's the worst that could happen? You might just need a friend and some chemical balancing in your brain.

>>39598565
Jesus christ no fucking wondeer i dont get shot out of em these pills are 200mg lmfao, ill have to take fuckin 7+ a day fml

>>39598564
sorry can't relate.

i go out of my way to stay sharp with social interactions.

I approach and get at least 3 numbers a day, to build for my weekend.

YES it is tough, in terms of time consuming, but i'd rather approach these girls, so i can fuck em instead of masturbating. By the time the weekend comes I have a handful of girls to choose from.

If you're sad do somethign about it, if not, no point on complaining.

>>39597922
>>39597922

BUMP?

Why don't you losers have gfs?

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>>39598580
Modern pharmacology is bullshit in general and especially so in regards to psychological well-being. Ive been through that whole schtick. SSRIs, SNRIs, Tricyclic, Benzodiazepines, SDRMs, amphetamines, even antipsychotics. I half-heartedly tried to kill myself many many times from 11-17 so I got put on a lot of shit.

This feeling is similar to but not as painful as depression.

As far as other drugs, nothing really helps. Disassociatives (ket, mxe, dxm), weed and concentrates, LSD, Shrooms, pharmahuasca, DMT, none of it had any lasting effect on this really specific feeling. And I really pushed the dosages. They all definitely changed my outlook and took the sharpest edge away. But I'm not better.

Don't know where to turn anymore.

Again, sorry for.spillimg feels in the roids thread

>>39598669
if i talked to a girl itd be weird for the rest of the day cause ive never done it before so it would be breaking routine kinda

idk

Does cronometer.com (macro tracker) overestimate calories, or do cans and food packages and shit underestimate?

This can of beans says its 3.5 servings of 100 calories each, but when I put 3.5 servings of it into that macro tracker, it comes up as 400.

Same with a bunch of other foods

>>39598735
use mfp dude.

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>>39598593
See I just don't really care as much anymore. My dick definitely cares, I'll give you that. But that's part of why I can't fucking stand the stupid fucking dynamic of flirtation/sexual interaction that goes on. I think you're fucking stupid but you have something I want and you're going to make me say and do shit I don't fucking care about to get it. This will sound edgy, I admit, but all I can think of is grabbing that tiny little throat and fucking squeezing until it pops. Everyone my age I meet is a combination of retarded and lost in some fantasy. I know I'm not perfect. I'm just angry and spiteful. I can't really figure out where it comes from.

Not always like this, but last year or two it's been bad. Like I said, usually I just opt for the self love to rid most of the itch.

I have done about everything that's seemed reasonable so far see
>>39598681

That's why Im ruining the thread with my essays. Maybe someone can relate or just venting it will help.

Why do i cum yellow ? Currently on 500mg wk test e, clen+eca+dnp stack, mk677, cardarine, lgd4033, s4, and hcg 250iu eod

>>39598833
Dnp

>>39598780

No. Cronometer is far superior.

>>39598735

Crono is more accurate than MFP and the labels

>>39598171
except you are going to be deluded by the fact that no one who looks good is natty

and once you touch roids you never want to stop anyway

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>>39598857

>>39598876
he does look pretty sickening tbqh

>>39598857
I wanted to stop from the moment i fucked my first dude because of roids.
I thought a cute trap would make it feel less gay but god damnit i sucked a tiny brown dick and fucked a stupid faggot, i 110% blame the tren.

My question is simple but retarded:

If i am natty now and followed stronglifts up to 1/2/3/4 and am ready to do 14 weeks test e + dbol on weeks 1 to 6, is there a cookie cutter routine I can jump on to maximize my aesthics?

>>39598901
why did you suck his dick you fucking idiot

>>39598131
Roiding changes the dynamics of your entire neuromuscular system.

Permanent increase in number of myonuclei and satellite cells, and changes in neuromotor patterning are two big ones off the top of my head. Im sure there's more.

The science isn't fully there yet in mice, let alone humans. So if you roid for years there is a real good chance your "natty" limit is much bigger than someone who never roided. Can't put the cat back in the bag.

>>39598916
Heat of the moment, they always do it in the trap pornos so i thought it'd be awesome but it was awful and smelled like musky manlyness

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>>39596920
What's your email?
>>39597851
I dunno

>>39598935
You fucked it?
Should have let it fuck you no homo

>>39598915

Re post in new thread. Fraud posters know more about lifting than anyone else on the board and have helped me greatly with my dumbass questions.

>>39598935

so you 're blaming the tren yet you watched trap pornos before you hopped on it

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>>39599543