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I didn't even know there was a SARM general but I smell $$$ edition.

Previously on full house... >>39463500
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>>39473336
Real men don't use steroids.
/thread
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Any solution for high bp from aromasin?
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>>39473676
Keep estrogen in check, cardio, avoid sodium, drink more water, better diet. Pick a few of those.
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>>39473698
Well I need the asin to do that or just forego it and use a serm to protect my titties. I don't have issues when estro is high. Sex drive good etc, just the sore nips desu.

Diet might be hard, food is provided by employer and live in remote area. Water and cardio I can do.
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>>39473676
>>39473711
Ya cardio. You could use BP meds like telmasartin or something as well.
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Help me out niggas.

I did bloodwork on Friday and it came out:
1300 ng/dl total testosterone.
86 pg/ml E2

So I took 0.5mg of arimedex on saturday and now I'm feeling a little dizzy, my dick is cold, have no sex drive and feel hot as fuck.

Is my Anastrazol bunk or is my Estrogen still high?
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>>39473810
Forgot to mention. I'm running 250mg of test E/week
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>>39473810
lmao after how much time after your first pin did you do the bloodwork?

1300 ng/dl on 250mg test e/week is really fucking low.

Cant help you with the adex, sorry.
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>>39474053
>lmao after how much time after your first pin did you do the bloodwork?
Pinned on Monday, did Bloodwork on Friday
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>>39474073

lol senpai, that made absolutely no sense.

Do bloodwork before you start, and then bloodwork 6 weeks after your started pinning.

That 1 week bloodwork is useless.

Someone correct me if im wrong.
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>>39473810
>86 pg/ml E2
Pretty sure that's within the normal male range albeit slightly on the high end. You probably don't need ai or a very low dose if any.
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>>39474089
I'm already pinning for a month.

Did bloodwork because I started to feel like shit.
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>>39474153
So I might have crashed it too low with AI? ;_;
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Have you guys used echeck to pay for shit from india before?

>>39473810
your e2 is 2x the high reference for males

What is your AI dosing schedule as is? It better be pharma also.
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>>39474188
>What is your AI dosing schedule as is?
I didn't get any.
>It better be pharma also.
I only have pic rel on hand

Already took 0.5mg on Saturday, one day after bloodwork and my dick doesn't feel so good.
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>>39474157
Then why do you tell me your first pin was monday?

lol

Anyways if you are at 4 weeks, 1300 ng/dl is kinda low.

Maybe wait a bit more and do bloodwork again?

>>39474153
I just googled and it says reference range for men is 10-40 pg/ml
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READ THE PREV THREAD.

NO PICS, NO BTFO. NOTHING THAT CAN HARM ME

I AM STILL THE KING
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>>39474167
That's my guess. But my dick works all the time whether I'm at 0 e2 or 200 so I don't really know what to tell you.
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>>39474241
>>39474249
fuck
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>>39474241
>I just googled and it says reference range for men is 10-40 pg/ml
Well there you go. Dialing in AI is the hardest part about gear use in my opinion.
>>39474244
Looking sick breh. Is that you or your brother?
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>>39474244
Mast what are your working sets in percentage of your max?
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>>39474223
>I didn't get any.
you mean you didn't make one. you should be taking it consistently unless you want to feel like shit. maybe do .5mg adex with your injections so ever 3 days. Redo blood work after a while

It looks like it's pharma but I'd probably go with pfizer or some other big brand as i've never heard of them before.

>>39474167
>So I might have crashed it too low with AI? ;_;
Obviously not your fucking e2 is out of the reference range.
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>>39474279
>saving this image
>posting this image
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>>39474279
Okay, I think I get that.
With every injection I should take .5mg of adex.

Let's see how it works out. I wil do bloodwork again this week on Friday.
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what's bad about 0.5kg chicken in one sitting?
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>>39474320
>what's bad about 0.5kg chicken in one sitting?
It's not 0.5kg of steak.
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>>39474320
That's like 4 times more protein than you can digest at once.
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>>39474311
well how often do you pin? it should be e3d if you're pinning test e.

>>39474298
s-sorry
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>>39474333
Did top gear amazon edition start yet finally? I miss top gear so much.
>>39474343
Why is that boy wearing a dress? Is this a rare never before seen pic of jerry?
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>>39474333
so am I going to shit proteins? Can I litteraly eat shit?
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>>39474333
How much protein can one digest at once?
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>>39474343
>well how often do you pin? it should be e3d if you're pinning test e.
Once a week.

Every monday.
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>>39474351
No idea, I've still got like a season and a half that I haven't watched yet on Netflix, so I'm fairly out of date, like it a lot too.

>>39474343
Holy shit.

>>39474356
Yes, and yes?

>>39474358
Three.
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>>39474359
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

WTF ARE YOU DOING YOU MONGOLOID?

DID YOU NOT FUCKING RESEARCH BEFORE YOU STARTED TAKING CATTLE HORMONE.

jesus fuck anon, now wonder your test leves are this shit.

Start pinning 125mg e3d right fucking now
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>>39474400
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>>39474400

Why do i always forget my trip.

AND ALSO WAIT A FEW WEEKS BEFORE YOU DO BLOODS AGAIN, BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN PINNING COMPLETELY WRONG SO FAR:


>people like this roid

TRIGGERED REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

And no wonder your e2 is this fucking high.
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>>39474394
are you high on marijuanas again?
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>>39474418
I'M NOT ROIDING YOU FUCK.

it's my TRT. My balls are fucked, quite literally and I don't produce my own T.
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Any fatasses have experience with Ostarine? Thinking about trying a cycle of it, never even done an EC stack though. Should I try EC first before I do anything else?
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>>39474430
Yes.

I gotta go drive somewhere though, hah.
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>>39474394
Ya looks like first episode aired on November 18th according to the googles. I know what I am doing later
>>39474418
I pin once a week lol.
>>39474441
It's a great get your feet wet drug, no real sides and decent gains. Cheap as fuck too at $18/gram.
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>>39474418
people have been pinning test e once a week since before you were born. the study(ies) behind the real half lives of esters is fairly recent by gear usage standards

people still think the enanthate ester has a half life of 10 days in the year of our Lord 2016

it's really not that big of a deal tbH
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>>39474448
>I gotta go drive somewhere though, hah.
that didn't end well last time.
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>>39474437
IT DOESNT FUCKING MATTER YOU SPERG.

250mg test should give you much more than 1300 ng/dl. That is if you pin correctly.
If you pinned e3d, it would be higher.

>im on TRT
>supraphysiological test dosage
>250mg, where the main side effects can already kick in
>a dosage where people already get jacked on it

xDDD GOIS TRT LMAO CUZ LOW TEST.

I hate people like you. If its TRT then pin trt dosages.

Look at pic related, thats from a fucking 250mg dosage you absolute imbecile.

>>39474463
I expected nothing else.

>>39474469
It doesnt fucking matter.

Fact is that you get less sides and less fucked up hormones and better gains if you pin more frequently.

Thats one of the reasons why people even consider pinning short esters.
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>>39474544
You can suck my cold limp dick, you sperging autist bitch.

I asked a fucking question and you act like a chimping out whore.
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>>39474544
lol another retard with tiny shoulders
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>>39474561

You asked a question, i answered it.

Conclusion was: You are an absolute fucking retard on steroids that thinks he is pinning TRT.
And at the same time is doing it wrong too.

Even with you retarded ass shitty pinning shedule once/week you still have above natural levels.

How can anyone be this much of a fucking failure?

Atleast be smart about it and do what i told you to do.

Meaning

>stop spouting your TRT meme
>pin like you are supposed to do.

And you are g2g

Another pic for showing you what 250mg test e can do
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>>39474544
>roiding for this
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>>39474601

>no pics

k anon

>inb4 starts posting pics
>pinning 5x more shit than i do

Realize it, you cant do anything to make yourself not look like a fool.
You have already lost and humiliated yourself.


pic related, 250mg test = 18.5" inch arms
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>>39474602

>another pic showing what 250mg can do

Make you look like a Natty with better genetics and diet?
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>>39474544
I'll take 'what are no lats or medial delts for 1000 Alex'

Where the fuck did this faggot trip come from
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>>39474634
Honestly, yeh. 250 isn't anything crazy
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>>39474626
is this you ?
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>>39474655
>>39474641
>>39474634


>u-uh r-roiding for this bruh
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Is tren worth it?
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>>39474665

Are you implying that body is not obtainable natty

Meanwhile we have 3 fucking Natties that post ITT and look better than that by a wide margin...

Man get a grip
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>>39474626
funny thats pretty much what my body looks like

not on gear, but 7 years natty and occasional clen/peptide cycle to lean out
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>>39474665
>he actually gives people advice

kek
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>>39474689

>n-nothing special bruh
>this shit e-easy bruh

AND STILL NO PICS.

fkn lmao, what is this logic.

Look at yourself from 3rd person. What kind of a fucking loser you are.

Accept it, you can talk what you want, but you are not going to post pics.

You will not be bigger than i am on 250mg test e.

If you were, you would post pics right now.

GO ON, REPLY TO ME AGAIN WITH YOUR DYEL TEXT AND NO PICS.

It makes you look even scarier
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>>39474699
>THIS IS HOW I LOOK LIKE
>AND IM NATTY

and still no pics.

HAHAHAHH HAHAH AH AH HA HA AH HAAH

MY FUCKING SIDES, YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP.

Holy fuck, how can people like you even sleep at night. I would have already ended your delusional life.
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>>39473810
dunno man i took 0.5 mg arimidex pharm grade EOD instead of E3D as i used to and i probably crashed my estro. no erections, sleepy as fuck all the time etc. 500mg/wk test e.
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>>39474722

>all this salt

When did I say I'm not a dyel? All I said is that the body you posted (which assuredly isn't you as you have some fixation with posting photos of other men) is totally achieveable natty

>what kind of loser you are

What did I even say that makes me a loser? You're a genuine idiot.

All I said is 'that's a naturallly achievable body' and you flip a gasket as if I insulted you or said anything that wasn't 100% fact

Learn to manage your sides idiot.

>someone on internet says 'that's a naturally achieveable body' ABOUT A PHOTO OF ANOTHER DUDE

>jump straight down their throat

Get a grip
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>>39474805
holy fucking autismo, that was some cringe tier analysis bro.

>bruh why u m-mad?
>im not dyel at all...

FKN LMAO, AGAIN NO PICS.

HAHAAHHAAHHA
HAHA
HAHAHA
HAAH
HAHA
AH
HAHAHA HA HA AH AH AH AHAHAHHAHA AH AH AH AH AH HA AAH
HA

AH
AHAH

holy shit, this made my fucking day.

Off to hit the gym, cant wait to come back to more dyel twink texts from you.

Dont forget to call me small again, it makes you look big
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>>39474805
Why are you here. Go home kid.
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>>39474836
not him, but do you realize how autistic you look?
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>>39473336
how are HGH suppliments? do they work? i dont want to spend the money on actual HGH
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>>39473336
Is it fine to start DNP cycles off at 500mg ED after your first cycle assuming you had no adverse sides?
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sup fuckers
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>>39474883
Bit more context: 1st cycle was 250mg ed for 4 days then 500mg for the next 17
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>>39474878
>how are HGH suppliments?
peptides can be okay
supps are useless
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>>39474836

>>bruh why u m-mad?
>im not dyel at all...

Oh my god you can't even READ?

>>39474849

Clearly I'm not the only dyel ITT I mean this guy is roiding and smaller and fatter than cat piss who was already super unimpressive considering the test\dnp
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>>39474896
should be okay, I believe
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>>39474878
read what
>>39474898
said
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>>39472727

This depresses me so much. Addiction is depressing. An addiction to shit food is just as depressing as an addiction to meth. Funnily enough they have pretty similar health consequences, too, albeit inverse effects on weight.

You don't need to keep stuffing your face with DNP to lose weight. You need an intervention and some will power.

Dnp is never going to fix shitty eating, high sodium, fat, cholesterol, and crap macro intake. You'll just gain back the weight 2x as much as before without fixing your habits as soon as you come off, or have to just keep taking DNP for the rest of your life lol. I wonder what the ultra long term consequences of THAT is...
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Hello Dear /fraud/

I am a supernewbie and I want to learn about this. Where do I start? Is there a sticky?

Also, I have done some self-research and I think I will only have the balls to take TRT to up my levels to like 600 for 12 weeks. After that cycle would I need to take anything additionally?

Also, whats the best method of getting these things? I live in Scandinavia
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>>39474981
reddit

Also no source talk here
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>>39474987

ty
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>>39474981
1. Reddit's r/steroids has a good wiki, start there to learn more.

2. Source talk is not allowed here so I can't help you out with that, sorry.
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>>39474981
>scandinavia
Bad luck drawing the short straw when it comes to steroids
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>>39474731
I think you're confusing me
The one who made that comment


With others who have been talking shit


But here i am holding a ton of water
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>>39474995
>source talk is not allowed here
wot
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>>39475160
That redness is a bologna giveaway, right? Or is it a hot shower giveaway?
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Fuck no matter how much water I guzzle I've been getting that weird dehyration pain in my knees/legs at bed

Just fucking kill me senpai
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>>39475196
nah i workout in full sweats, was sweating my dick off
i'm only 5'8, 180, not super impressive. Just saying I looked comparable to the 250 test guy
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>>39475216
Balance your minerals
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>>39475224
Actually not a bad recommendation esp with the starv cut

If I can fall asleep again peacefully without tossing and kicking I'll be so pleased
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>>39475247
Yes. Drinking water without proper minerals just further pushes electrolytes out of balance. Try 200mg potassium and 400mg magnesium before bed.
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>>39475261
Thanks for the advice senpai
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>>39475190
Selling steroids is illegal in the US, so it's illegal on 4chan.
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>>39475269
You can owe me.
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>>39474731
>>39475160
btfo m8
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>>39475216
P O T A S S I U M

>>39475217
Yeah, looks good dood. I'd say you're not as shredded as that "250" guy is, but definitely more if not at least as built.
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>>39475217

>not super impressive

1 cut and you're ready for the stage.

>>39475217

>comparable

100 times better.

Sure your bf % is higher but you have great size, you don't look anything like that guy.

Stop with the body dysmorphia anon, you look really good.
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>>39475448
This tbqh senpai.
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>>39475160
I would fuck you
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>>39474805
>All I said is that the body you posted (which assuredly isn't you as you have some fixation with posting photos of other men) is totally achieveable natty
>is totally achievable natty
This is what i always think when people on roids post pictures over here.

really pathetic.

>BUTT MUHHH MIRESS
>MUHH TREEN
MUHH NECTAR
faggots

all of you.

>>39474264
My brother, kek. I mean he had good genetics, but he will never come close to me.

He doesn't have the same dedication as me, unfortunately. WEAK MINDED

>>39474272
666%
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>>39475539

disappointing mast the guy asked you a serious question he clearly is looking for advice and guidance
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>started taking high tren now that I'm cutting instead of tons of test/eq

Should I swap some of my calories from fat into carb calories?

Since tren raises your efficiency with carbs, plus carbs have a higher thermic effect anyway. Calories pretty much the same.
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>>39475539
>666%
Leaving humanity behind

>>39474351
That is a cute dress
W2c
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>>39475591
So? I already made clear that routines are not that important. DIET is important. That's what most of you find hard apparently; to put proper food in your mouth instead of dicks. I have proven that you can grow with a bro-split, FUCKING ROUTINES ARE FUCKING BULLSHIT. AND YES also as a natty.

8-12 reps, 4 sets, 4 exercises for each muscle. Train you weak body parts twice a week

ITS NO ROCKET SCIENCE.

>butt butt butt your genetics
That's why you will always be and stay weak with that attitude. Always flee, always in your comfort zone, always that bete cringe wizard that was never meant to make it.

Come back when you think you're past my natty pics, so we can talk on mediocre level


>>39475682
You look LIKE SHIT NATTY YOU LOOK SHITTY ON GEAR

fucking loser
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>>39475716
Nobody has to look like shit as a natty.

There are two things important to make it, IN THIS ORDER

1. Diet
2. Dedication
3. Training

Of course you can't change the shape of your muscle, or insertions and what not. But EVERYONE can look at least decent, with just the right diet, good training and mindset.

Do whatever you think is needed to get that what you wanna achieve. You have so much potential. Don't listen to these faggot with there:

MUHH DNP AND I CAN EAT PIZZZA AT THE SAME TIME. LOOK HOW HARDCORE I AM GUIZYSS: PIZZA AND DNP.

Have this picture in your head what you wanna see in the mirror and let nobody take that away from you. The ultimate goal should be; when you look at yourself in the mirror you would get an insane orgasm that can't be achieved with either sex or drugs. NOT EVEN COMBINED.
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>>39475693

>tfw lifting for masT

>Come back when you think you're past my natty pics, so we can talk on mediocre level

One day senpai one day
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>>39475774
Shit. Actual quality posts from you. Nice.
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>>39475848
It's surreal how well he can say something as quality disguised as a shit post disguised as quality. He's like an excited child. I admire it.

Okay trip off again
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>>39475693
>I-I swear I am natty here!
>routines don't matter, ask me, a roider, I would know!
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>>39474886
Yay!

Dammit Yolo, post jb pls!
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Why tf do people message things like "hey" or "you're sexy!" on dating sites/apps etc

Boring ass faggots with 0 substance
If you ain't hot you better learn to open a conversation

Problem is these literal 2/10s think they're gods gift to this world and also think they're entitled to a reply

No wonder they have no luck
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anyone have some knowledge on beard growth from roids?

i have a semi full stache and decent growth on the chin but no visible hair on the sides at all.

i can however feel hairs all over my face on spots where you cant see them. i started 250mg test e5d 2 weeks ago and also use 5% minoxidil twice a day now


do i actually have chances to get a decent beard from this?
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>>39475959
So what opening line does it for you?
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>>39475905

Come back when you look NATTY like MasT looks in his NATTY photo.

Except you can't and won't ever because you don't work as hard as he does

It's the trademark of a LOSER to try to tear MasT down so you feel better about yourself.

It's easier to just shit on him than to TRY and WORK to look like he does right?

MasT is the one that inspired me to start lifting, to min max my diet, to train as hard as I can, with full intensity.

Who did you inspire? Who?

kys
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>>39475905
If you think a meme routine is the route to making it instead of something that you make yourself by rubbing two brain cells together and doing some research online into different exercises you're capable of doing to compliment your body best you're never gonna make it.

The only routine I'd ever actually suggest someone do is like smolov or some shitty PL routine if they're interested in building strength on one particular exercise exclusively. If you're doing meme routines for aesthetics you might as well kill yourself honestly, because you're literally scraping the bottom of the barrel for gains in the gym.
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>>39475905
Did you know that, when you say things like that it you only giving me compliments?

It's better to just ignore it, like the rest.

>>39475959
Why would you think that a 10/10 would being so desperate to go on a dating sites


>>39475972
I wanna do the same, but i heard of this aging effect that was pretty scary.
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>>39475959
>>39475979
>I know a lot about hentai

Alternatively women message me
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>>39474544
No TRT. No gear. No trip.
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>>39475774
Thats something i actually heavily disagree on with you.

Diet is literally just enough protons and calories.
How can that be the most important part?

If you have a perfect diet, you are not going to build muscle when your workouts are shit.

Training is the factor that triggers muscle growth. It is that defines how big your muscles get, how defined they are.

Thats why 3rd world niggers who work labour all day long are jacked, even though they eat dirt and sand all day long.

And with training i dont mean routine. Routine is fucking useless and not important at all.

I am talking about the intensity of your training. If you dont even drop a sweat in the gym then you are not going to look even remotely big.

Every guy who says its "80 % diet" is fucking dyel (except you of course.)
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>>39476016

that guy is not even as lean or big as the other one lol.
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>>39475996
There is a good amount of science behind natural lifting routines.

Pro tip: If you go the gym doing pump sets and want to hit your biceps from 5 different angles doing 10 different exercises you are doing it wrong, unless you roid.

But hey, routines don't matter and you should just do some lifts and you will totally min max your body's natural potential, right?

And linear overload is also total crap for muscle growth, so fuck trying to program for linear weight increase, right?
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Is 40mg Dbol WK 1-4 500mg Test E wk 1-16 a decent first cycle?

Also should I start by taking my AI E3D instead of EOD to figure out how my estrogen responds as to not crash it?
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>>39476019
For once, I'm in agreement with you. Nice arms btw.
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>>39476047
He's def not. But he's still impressive for a claimed natty.
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>>39476049
>Pro tip: If you go the gym doing pump sets and want to hit your biceps from 5 different angles doing 10 different exercises you are doing it wrong

my natty body after 1 year of lifting ( ONE YEAR ANON) doing exactly what you just described: http://imgur.com/a/cTyLs

>inb4 dyel

show me one person who goes from skelly to this in 1 year
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>>39476019
No. lifting initiates a repair process.

Diet controls when nutrients are shuttled, how efficiently they're shuttled, what nutrients are being shuttled where, how you process those nutrients, etc.

Diet is the difference between big strong bloaty and big strong grainy.
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>>39476071
>claimed

is the keyword here anon
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>>39476019
Because nobody can grow without the right nutrition. I see so many people at the gym training. Doing different exercises. But always remain to look the same? WHY? because they eat like pigeons.

It's just suffering how they just workout and still eat like shit. EVEN PEOPLE ON GEAR can't even grow because they're not putting the right food in their mouth. For instance, look at yolo. he's blasting and cruising for years(even with tren and dnp etc etc ect) and he doesn't even look natty. I bet he lifts weights, but he doesn't eat, that's for sure.

>3rd world niggers who work labour
You can't compare the bbc genetics with ours

If you put genetics and gear in the picture:

1.Genetics
2.Diet
3.Routine
4.Gear

It's not even debatable. If everyone over here would eat the right amount of food as they would inject in their butt EVERYONE would look sick, no matter WHAT genetics. peroid
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>>39476016
this boards fucking saviour if im to be honest.
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>>39476019
You could say the exact same thing about working out honestly.

Working out is literally just doing 4-8 exercises with some heavy weight on it for a few minutes each a day. How can that be the most important part?

There's no such thing as a perfect routine for everyone, and you can't build muscle or aesthetics optimally if your diet is shit.

Eating is the factor that triggers muscle growth. You could work out every day of the week for years and not gain a single pound if you're perma cut mode.

That's why Africans and people in third world countries are skinny as fuck and dyel even though they work manual labor jobs and live in a faurking sauna 24/7 while running or bikeing everywhere, they have trash diet.

See what I mean?
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>>39476077
>look, I experienced noob gains!

Look, I don't even need to dispute your anecdotal, questionable evidence.
That's the cool thing about it: Scienece proves me right.

It's utterly stupid to advise others and make general statements about something because of anecdotal, one case evidence, don't you think?
Even a blue collar should be able to tell.
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>>39476087
Fair enough. You think his physique is achievable natty tho?
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>>39476108
yes
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>>39476092
Thanks for the advice man, you rightfully shit on most people because imo they ask for advice, don't make use of it, then wonder why the fuck they still look the same.

Do you drink at all, just curious.
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>>39476077
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>>39476097
Ikr. I lurk /fit/ mostly every day to see if he posts. I can't relate to masT. MasT speaks gibberish and is resigned to an early death. Has he posted any new progress pics that you know of?
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>>39476098
>Eating is the factor that triggers muscle growth

Im sorry but thats just plain wrong.

And no, lifting isnt just 4-8 exercises.

There is a difference between just lifting, and lifting very hard.

I see dyels in my gym that look the same after 2 years, and they lift 3 times a week.

And they tell me "yeah its 80% diet bro".

So they have presumely a good diet but still look dyel.

>>39476104
Thats what a "noob gains" body looks like?

Look at CBT. The real thing. The real world.
People dont even look close to this after 3 years of lifting.

And dont even dare cherry picking someone to argue with me.
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This is me after 1 year of natty lifting, with absolute SHIT TIER DIET.

ONE YEAR OF LIFTING AND SHIT DIET GETS ME THIS : http://imgur.com/a/cTyLs

NAME ME ONE PERSON WHO LOOKS LIKE ME AFTER 1 YEAR.

And pre-built people like this guy >>39476108 dont count
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>>39476175
You are cherry picking someone to argue with and then tell me to argue against it, but not by cherry picking.

Is this board litterally made out of retards? Do you guys even have a degree?
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>>39476175
Aight. Eat 1500 kcal a day for a year and come back to me when you exercise hard enough to gain muscle over that year. I'll be waiting.
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should i an hero after this cycle?

hated my life before juice, still hate it on cycle.

im bigger but im still sad
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>>39476222
How about you just man up and stop relying on roids or 4chan to sort your life out. Pursue a hobby or learn a new skill.
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>>39476200
you look like shit though, zero visible muscle, no definition, etc. i would hav guessed you were just a dyel gamer...
your move
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>>39476222
>saying no to diesel
Fucking faggot, it's the superior fuel choice.
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>>39476200
I-i look like you, after a year... ;_;
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>>39476221
Fair point, but like i previously said.

Diet is important as, its a pre-requisite.

Its literally just enough protons/calories.

How does that make up the major effort of building muscle?

I just think its not right to put it 1# in place, when its so simple and takes no effort at all

Anyways im gonna chill down now, because im still too small to brag about everything.

I still think that TRT guy is a delusional faggot, that training is more important, and that no one can top my 1 year natty physique.

>>39476215
>degree

NotOp is a professional dick sucking golfer

>>>39476222
>cycle

EBIN MEMES
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>>39476239
i do alot of fun shit (kiteboard,mountain bike, surf,etc) but everything feels empty.

zero motivation in life

ive told myself to stop being a faggot and man up for a long time now and its not really working anymore
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>>39476137
I used to drink, smoke and use drugs. But i cold turkey with it all. It's useless and fucking with my goals.

I only drink on special occasions

>>39476222
Do something you love and like. Set goals in life. Achieve them. Be proud of yourself. Learn to love yourself

Don't rely on fucking steroids, it's no fucking cure for depression.
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>>39476222
Cycle? Just bnc forever. After 5 years your waifu will get real
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>>39476362
at least ik its not cause im low T
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>>39476272

shit lighting was hiding my definition.
my thick shoulder vein shows you that im bretty lean

>zero visible muscle

lol

>lmao 147 lbs

Its not like i have 35 pounds on this guy, or anything
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>>39474878
Get some mk677. I know a guy that's got some good stuff...
>>39474886
Your alive! What's new?
>>39475216
Potassium. There is a product called no salt. Just toss it in some water. It's the same shit they put in Gatorade.
>>39475539
>good genetics
You both are very blessed.
>>39475678
Did you ever get dresses that fit or did you realize how ridiculous you were being lol.
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>>39476373
Stop hiding faggot.

>9kg of fat gained
>he tries to give advice.

fkn lmao
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>I know a guy that's got some good stuff...
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>>39476582
Look at it this way. The more shit you guys buy from me the closer I get to buying jerry a 12 year old Chinese girl and since we all love jerry...
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>>39476612
>since we all love jerry

I dont. I hate weebos
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>>39476344
I'd say if you're going full autism mode and eating the same exact meal every single day of your life that's been perfectly weighed and counted out to provide adequate nutrition and you never deviate from it, and somehow LIKE it that way, then yes, diet becomes easy and you don't have to do much with it I suppose. At that point it's just protons and calories.

I'd rather kill myself than do that though, so I figure out optimal meals that I like and enjoy cooking, and diet healthy while consuming enough kcal/protein/fats to maintain or slowly gain weight. The benefit to that is I'm able to do things occasionally like eat out, drink beer, and do drugs whenever I want because I like being an interesting person and having fun, but am capable of compensating for that by cutting weight at a moments notice because I'd like to think I know how to eat correctly.

So, in that regard, diet is another full time job that I personally have to monitor. If it isn't, you're either autistic or doing something wrong imo.

To me exercise outside of going for PR's is easy. I pump out my sets, if I'm working out with currentgf wait for hers, then go box. Boxing is way harder than working out, idk how people think lifting the same weights you have for months over and over again in the same way is difficult. It's just the determination and strictness that's hard, which is exactly what the issue is with dieting for most people. I love getting 3-4 day DOMs from going ham on a back and shoulder day, I still don't think it's necessessarily difficult.

In my honest opinion it's diet, exercise, and determination to stick with them both that's most important. You can't really value one much more than the other, but you sure as fuck can't undervalue them.
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>>39476612
Just keep it subtle with your advertising.
Like pic related.
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coming in hot and sweaty for metalhead qts
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>>39476622
>I dont. I hate weebos
Says the guy posting on a Chinese cartoon image forum.
>>39476627
Ya shit my advertising definitely needs more geometry.
>>39476649
She looks like a real winner lmao. Fuck I'm old. I used to go after girls like this like it was going out of style. They are fun but don't expect anything meaningful lol.
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>>39476649
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/5/5d/Spir_death_03.mp3
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>>39476674
i know believe me, its just fun to be around girls like that when you are single and not looking for anything.. there is a bar near me called the drunken unicorn that alot of them hang out at, i might go see a metal show there and try to pick one up
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>>39476674
>>Ya shit my advertising definitely needs more geometry.
lol

yes it's just geometry

*rubs hands* good goyim
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>>39476624
> exact meal every single day of your life that's been perfectly weighed and counted out to provide adequate nutrition and you never deviate from it, and somehow LIKE it that way, then yes, diet becomes easy

cough, cough....

I cook and eat good meals. But i admit i eat the same shit everyday lol.

>To me exercise outside of going for PR's is easy. I pump out my sets

Dont compare yourself to others bro. You have a good work ethic. You are disciplined, you know what your body is capable of, you know how to push yourself. You have a strong will.

You cant imagine the amount of people in my gym who dont want to curl more than 15 pounds or who drop the set before the muscle even gets flushed with blood.
They drop the set and i tell them:

>uhm bro, you didnt even start yet
>uggh but i already did 5 curls with that 15lb DB.
>yes, and you could increase the weight to 30lb and do 8 reps of it.

>ughh no it hurts when i do so, there is no way i could do that
>yes you can, you just dont know the limits of your body/your muscles. Trust me anon, most people can do way more than they think they do
>UUUGGHHH BUT IT HURTS

People cant even push themselves in the gym. They cant go beyond pain. When veins are popping they think they are over training. They think they need 3 rest days.

Fuck some of them dont even fucking sweat in the gym and think they have worked hard.

I see it this way

- You can get kinda jacked if you are lifting very hard, but eat shit food. (But still at a surplus).

- You CANT get jacked with the most perfect diet in the world, when the way you are lifting doesnt even trigger muscle growth in the first place.

You lift, your body thinks "uggh this faggot is under some heavy load, i better build some muscle for him to make life easier".

Idk mang, you can call me dyel and all that. But my 1 year natty body was still achieved with a shit diet. All i did was enough protons/calories
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>>39476674
>geometry

lol.
youll be fine. You're a half way decent namefag/tripfag like canary, mas test, attention whore estp, bimbo and from the past quad, letrozole, muthafucka, peg etc.

I've been a dad to these threads for years. That's all.
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>>39474604
someone please explain this meme
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>>39476945
>Forgetting JM and Chem
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>>39476991
>forgetting
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>>39476970
archive says sigil magic
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I've only run DBol as far as orals go but I don't see myself running any cycle without tren anymore and mixing the two seems dumb. Is there a better oral to run with tren for the first few weeks or should I just ignore the whole oral frontload thing.

I guess I could just run tren ace until the normal tren builds up but pinning every day fucking sucks. Also I respond super well to DBol compared to any injectable crap I ran so not sure I want to give up on orals completely.
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>>39477073
Tren is shit
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>>39476084
>Diet is the difference between big strong bloaty and big strong grainy
more like what gear you are on and how much
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>>39477077
>spot the balding butthurt faggot who lost hair on tren and then broke his dick taking finasteride
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>>39476084
>>39477112
>whynotboh.jpg

>>39477077
tren literally the best thing you can run for looks (HGH not included $$$). You put on muscle while looking lean and maybe even losing a pound or two. Unless you're going for olympia-style looks tren is best.
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>>39474244
>still carrying on like a toddler
>still sore about getting btfo
>has to mention it in this thread too

hahahaahahahahahahahaahah
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>>39477052
lmao is this real?
wtf

how old was/is JM?
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Has anybody tried just test to help with depression? I'm on Lexapro 10 mg, but I have found that antidepressants alone don't do much. I read online that a lot of men, regardless of whether they had low test or not, have found that testosterone injections along with antidepressants are very effective. Anybody here tried that?
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>>39477148
Nah tren is awful.
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>>39477219
Anon, the reason test helps with depression is because you get jacked.

When people say "steroids saved my life", its not the steroids that did it.

It was getting HUUUUUGE and ASTEHTIC that did the job.

If you take test and dont lift and look dyel manlet faggot, no its not going to do anything.

>depressed

Judging from that pic i can tell where your problem is, moit.
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>>39477219
i dont do antidepressants cause im not american bitch pills eat hehe

i've been on test for 3 years now with blasts of tren and dbol and some other shit from time to time

tren fucks with your head but if you have good mind it doesnt matter

start meditating, find what makes you happy find meaning in life instead of relying on other stuff to heal you. trust me bro it's inside you. my dick
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>>39477219
>>39477242

If you're super stable you will feel mostly the same regardless of how much gear your on. If you have mental problems you will probably feel better. I've never heard of a guy blasting test/tren becoming depressed but I HAVE heard of some people feeling better.

Would you rather be sad and shredded or sad and normal looking?
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>>39477237
The studies I read didn't have the men lifting or anything, it was the test itself in tandem with the antidepressants.

>>39477242
yeah I've started meditating and am trying to find new meaning, but that doesn't mean I can't try multiple things at a time. I need something to work or I'm going to punch out on life.

>>39477269
Yeah I am super depressed right now.

True, but right now I just want to not dread the next day so I am trying things i haven't tried yet. Shredded can wait as far as I am concerned.
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>>39477173
Old enough to afford trips to third world regions just to bang a black trap

Weird guy that boss wannabe.
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>>39477219
In my experience if you have a weak mind test alone is kinda counter productive and fucks with emotions a lot. Having a strict diet, hitting the gym hard, making gains and seeing that you can change is what really helps though.
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accidentally turned my 1.5 hour workout into 3 hours. T-thanks tren, when dies the rhabdomyolysis set in now?
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>>39477291
>bang a black trap
but she is green

>>39477297

judging from that pic i think you are the on with a weak mind, anon
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>>39477269
>test/tren becoming depressed

Happens all the time just ask anyone here. Tren has more mental sides than any I've tried
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>>39477403
Tren is fucked.
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>>39477407
Like ur mum last night
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>>39477219
you ain't never seen nothing crazier than this nigga when he off his lexapro
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>>39477322
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>>39477412
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>>39474487
That was very sleep deprived on stimulants, admittedly bad but very not the same thing as driving on marijuana alone when one is familiar with how it affects them.

As an aside, I've never caused a traffic incident or came anywhere close to causing one, in any mental state. The exceptions to that and my real regret about how I used to conduct myself was the speeding, I did it on numerous occasions and I wasn't alone every time I did either. I just kept pushing the envelope until I finally had an accident, but thankfully it was by myself on a country road with no traffic. Speeding is fucked, it can so quickly destroy lives and I'm ashamed of that sort of behavior more than anything else.
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>>39474244
King of Autism Awareness forum. Congrats.
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> Thanksgiving approaches
> going to High Jewish in-laws (elite Ashkenazim Jews are always extreme Democrat)
> ham is always served at their house
> rest of extended family also sucks Hilldog's cock
> they know we voted Trump
> edgy mother and brother will inevitably bring it up and start a fight
> bringing black slave as well and she is vehemently anti-Trump
> meanwhile Trump already saved 28,000 jobs worth $4.2 Bil/year by making a phone call
> and stock market hit record highs; dollar is strongest in 15 years despite his anti-globalist views

This is going to be orgasmic. As usual, the only family members that live around niggers/Muslims/etc and actively live/work with or fuck blacks are pro-Trump and the rich bitches hiding in their 99% White/Jewish/Asian neighborhoods see a pro-White president as a bad thing. Not that many pro-Trump Whites live in nice areas, they do, in fact every nice area you know is Republican-dominant. However, the anti-Trump Whites also live in those areas. Because they're so comfortable and too mediocre to be productive; they treat their existential crises by inventing problems [like bitches].

The rest of the world has been given 20 years to catch up or 'develop' and the elites reaped most of the increased productivity thanks to a wonderful combination of free trade and regulation. Now we have most of the world complacent and sucking on pseudo-Capitalism's tit. EG; China is more interested in making iPhones than conquering Japan. We've castrated the entire world and now it's time to put America first again and introduce super-competition.

As much as I want to believe in the Trump movement resembling Hitler's rising in the Wiemar Republic... this has all been planned at least 25 years ago. The string pullers know that all trends end, Strauss-Howe is kiddy shit to them, they knew the left was going to implode and they exploited it. But for what purpose?
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>>39477493
If u think ur so smart why are you still poor lmao
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>>39477522
oh shit
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>>39477441
>speeding

Homie I live for driving fast... I love my motorcycle, get that thing up to ~170 on the empty freeway at 2 am and it's like nothing else on earth matters for a few minutes as it all blurs past you and the wind presses against your helmet. Any second you could die in a flash but as it's happening it's like I'm flying, and I feel like a freaking God. Better than any drug in the world.

If someone asked me to push an h2r to its limit I'd do it in an instant and have that bitch up to 250 mph by the second track lap. Manlet master race wew, all the fatass japs only hitting 240 need to drop a few pounds and learn to fly.
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>>39477522
>trump himself responds
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>>39477493
if you actually think china is "castrated," you haven't been keeping up with the chinese's influence on the house markets all over the world and the rippling effect it's going to have on the world economy

we're in for the biggest bubble burst of all time. it's going to happen during trump's presidency and it's all going to be blamed on him.
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>>39476382
truly delusional. that guy put on LEAN BODY MASS in one year. that guy is also now 200lbs comparably lean as when he was 147lbs.

your 35lbs on that 17 year old kid is just fat, he had more LEAN BODY MASS than you period. that pick was taken in 2006-2007, pretty sure the cameras were shit back then, but you still got BTFO

>>39477173
if you are this new, why do you trip?
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Guys, don't buy the shake ounces, even if they're $45.

How do they expect me to believe they sold me four and a half grams of THC for that much when they could've extracted this and got six and a half grams of decent concentrate and sold that for at least twenty-five a gram.

I just smoked some of it and nearly puked, god damnit.
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>>39477493
>meanwhile Trump already saved 28,000 jobs worth $4.2 Bil/year by making a phone call
Lol. If you're referring to Ford they released a statement saying that they were never going to cut jobs here because of their union contract.

>and stock market hit record highs; dollar is strongest in 15 years despite his anti-globalist views

Probably because he's naming all the wall street jerk off to high up cabinet positions and they're salivating at the thought of dodd-frank being repealed.
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>>39477622
I've been smoking trim from a really keefy sativa hybrid. It's the best mellow body high with just focus mentally; it's just dry and burns your throat.
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>>39477622
>>39477647
>Not vaping

Shiggydiggydoo
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>>39477647
Yeah, something more in the range of sugar leaf would be nice, appears to be a small amount of trichomes at the bottom of the bag. I just don't buy the 16.7% claim.
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>>39477674
If I was baller I'd just do concentrates through my dab rig, but I don't have it like that. I've got a gram of some really good gorilla glue concentrate, but that's for when guests are over.
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>>39477522
>>39477549

I was making six figures at 19 without working. My idiot apprentice is making 7 figures now thanks to his blind effort.

As for why I'm poor; it's a mix. I believe things happen for a reason, I'm naturally self-destructive, and I don't really care for making money. My paycheck has never derived any satisfaction, I generally see it as a mistake, but I'm not a psychiatrist.

Lately I've been fixing cars for free with no prior knowledge of mechanics. Before that I was fixing people for free and saved a few lives. Before that I was experimenting with computers and one of my experiments inadvertently started generating six figures. Wasn't trying to make money. Gave all the money to family and my ho at the time. I've known how to make millions easily but never could get myself to do it and I've stopped questioning it. I'm not here to be rich because money builds complacency.

>>39477593

Point was we've made China and the rest of the world reliant on 'economy'.

>>39477642
> Ford was never going to cut jobs here

Pretty sure they intended to move their plants when the contract expired. Perhaps your conspiracy theory is right, Trump just made all that shit up including their planned factory. It was one of the first things he said in his campaign, that he'd impose a 30% tariff on Mexican-built cars. Or maybe Ford was trying to save face.

> naming all the wall street jerk off to high up cabinet positions

He's mainly named racists and a 'climate-change denier' ie. an actual scientist. I've agreed with all of his picks and fail to see how the Democrat-dominant Wall St jerks off to these guys that are going to fuck their politically correct machine up.
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>>39477747
Can I be an apprentice? Does your apprentice need an apprentice? He might need one if he's going to kill you some day.
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>>39477747

>masT trolls and provides inspirational, funny, amusing stuff

>you troll and zzzz

how do you live with yourself
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what steroid would give the best results?
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>>39477768

I'm out of that game for 4 years now and I imagine the game's changed. I don't see why he'd want to kill the master. Have always been good to his pathological lying ass regardless of his ineptness when it comes to programming.

>>39477852

I'm literally a narcoleptic and haven't had health insurance for 3 months now. So, without medication -- yes, I constantly pass out especially if I'm drunk (which is often) and completely forget my trolling.

I'll be back someday but it's kind of difficult for a disabled person to get health insurance when they keep falling asleep whenever they apply for health insurance. Guess I better ask black slave to do it.
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>>39477866
methamphetamine enanthate
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>>39477907

I meant I'm falling asleep because of how low quality your bait is

Especially compared to mast
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>>39476627
>>39476797
>>39476945
So apparently this is related to Justice Scalia's death. I am all for investigating conspiracy theories however without the Smoking Gun it doesn't mean anything.
Also with that in mind advertising should never be that subtle. I mean seriously?
>>39477493
>meanwhile Trump already saved 28,000 jobs worth $4.2 Bil/year by making a phone call
Ford factory save? MAGA!
> and stock market hit record highs; dollar is strongest in 15 years despite his anti-globalist views
It's gonna crash. There is no reason to have record market highs with consumer confidence at record lows. Get ready.
>>39477866
Trenbologna
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>>39477924

Well so am I so what do you expect?

>>39477935

Sure it's expected to crash and what else should we expect? We're far overdue for a correction. Not Trump's fault just like it wasn't Bush.
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>>39477974
>what else should we expect?
Nothing special. Just horde cash so you can scoop up cheap property and stocks on the way down.
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>>39477974
>>39478035
>what else should we expect?
We are not facing another "great depression" anytime soon if ever. There are too many safeguards in place and not to mention the energy of the country is too positive for that to happen.
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>>39477907
>I don't see why he'd want to kill the master
That's exactly why he would though.
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will test e + minoxidil have ANY effect on beard growth? density specifically

please respond
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>see all my co-workers slowly going bald
>realize my hair is rapidly lozing volume and I could be thinning out
>spook myself into buying a shit load of internet finasteride

Anyone here have experience with this shit? I've heard horror stories but the research suggests like only 3% of people experience side effects compared to 1.5 on a placebo.
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>>39476272
mfw i have the exact same transformation in a year.

lean bulking is goat imo.Lean bulking + gear is even more fucking GOAT
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I do lots of cardio and calisthenics. I lift occasionally but not much.

What's a good oral for baby's first cycle if I want to break my cardio plateau?
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>>39478439
do you wanna be big and aesthetic? Test 250mg/e3d
Do you wanna run fast/long? Peptides
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>>39478459

>peptides

Any suggestions?
Would anabolics help at all? even 20mg anvar/day?
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>>39478511
why do you want to take var so bad?
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>>39478511
hmm now that i think of it.

Var or primo. let someone else give his opinion first tho cause im really retarded on anything besides test/dbol/anavar/tren cycles.
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Where do you get your syringes? Is this legit?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10pcs-5ml-5cc-Plastic-Disposable-Injector-Animal-Sterile-Syringe-Lab-Measuring-Pet-Feeder-Tool-Ink-Feeder/32654407651.html
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>>39474241

> Then why do you tell me your first pin was monday?

IIRC from the wiki, you want to get your bloodwork done around 12-24 hours before your next pin, or at least 48 hours after your last pin (and preferably 72 hours after last pin assuming you are pinning exactly E3.5D).

This is assuming you stick to your pin schedule religiously (every 84 hours) and take your AI when you pin.

1300ng/dL on 250mg/wk is a little bit low but still within range. People respond differently, but looking at various people's bloodwork test seems to be 5x-8x of weekly pin volume. 1300ng/dL is 5.2x of 250, so a little low but not abnormal. Every time I've gotten bloodwork done my T levels about 7x of what i pin (have never gone above 500mg/wk though) regardless of UGL (or pharma for that matter).
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>>39474279

> It looks like it's pharma but I'd probably go with pfizer or some other big brand as i've never heard of them before.

medac gmbh is a german pharma company that also owns subsidiaries in czech republic. i'm guessing the language on the box is czech?

should be gtg. even indian pharma stuff is usually legit.
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>>39478561
Just google syringes and click on the one thats advertised. they pay for that spot so might as well use them. i used this one http://www.liquidations-outlet.com/
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>>39478561
the way you're asking this question (and what you just linked) shows you're not ready to inject at all lmao
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>>39478561
>aliexpress
yeah dude buy em & let us know how it goes
I buy shit from there all the time
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>>39478561
ok first off you need 3 things.

you need:
1: 18-22g needle for drawing your cattle hormones into the syringe
2: 1ml-5ml syringe without needle.
3: 25-30g needle for injecting. 25 is thicker, 30g is thinner. While you may think thinner is better it really comes down where you pin and how you like it best. I prefer 25g for glutes.
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>>39478561
dat der $35 shipping
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>>39478561
Jesus Christ please no. GPZ services or any other medical supply
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>>39473336
>last day on dnp
>just binged on papa ginos pizza, chicken and fries
>washed it down with a monster

feels pretty fucking okay man, having lost 15 lb on this shit. Excited to get back to maintenance calories and prep for my first test cycle.

how are my degenerate friendos doing tonight
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>>39478782
Why aren't you dieting? This is why you have to resort to dnp.
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>>39478786
i'd been on a 1700 calorie deficit for 2 months prior to using dnp, and same while on. i wanted to celebrate the weight lost before going back to normal.

i didn't have to use dnp, i just wanted to crank some extra numbers out of my cut. it was nice.
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Wait you lot use fin?

Any horror stories? Where do you get it? From the indians?
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>>39478837
Been on it for a few months now. Good deal of my balding front has been filling back in, my dick still works. no brain fog. Seems good to me friend.
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>>39478797

You'll gain the weight back as soon as you get off the DNP you fat pig

You can't take drugs that give you willpower or work ethic

>>39478837

Heard that it breaks your dick from other anons.

>>39478527

Because he's an idiot

>>39476382

You're delusional man. Why do you recommend 'shit tier diet' so much when it landed you @ 18.5% bf?

Look at Lotus's LEAN BULK and look at what you've done. Be honest with yourself. Does it look the same?
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>mfw my mother works for the company that does bloodwork in my city
pre cycle bloodwork isn't that important right?
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>>39478527
I've heard var is the best in terms of stamina, endurance, gains, and least side effects.
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>>39479026

...

srs?
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>>39479061
That would be EQ.
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>>39479069
yee she's a phlebotomist; took my blood when I was younger
I'm gonna take a page from bimbo's book & try to get it done with sti testing if possible
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>>39479076
EQ?
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>>39476092
What do you feel is the right food? Like what's a sample of what a normal day of eating for you would be?
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>>39479179
erection quality
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>>39478782
I get, that urge to binge is real. It's less consequential on DNP, but it doesn't help progress, regardless of any supposed thermogenic effect, it's providing a supply of energy for a time that it would've otherwise spent breaking down fat cells.
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>>39478415
pics or bs
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>Aced math test.
>Broke new PR, back feeling better, can finally start fixing my shoulder.
>Bouncin between 9 tindies atm.

>Cycle ends in 1 week and all of this will be undone and my dick will fall off and i'll kill myself.

TWAS A GOOD RUN.
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>>39477522
SAVAGE
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>>39478561
>>39478673

Can you re-use needles?
Do you clean them/alcohol sanitize them?
Or do I have to buy as many as injections I will be doing?

How does this work?
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>>39479076
b-but you need to inject that
im scared of pricking my baby bottom
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>>39479794
have you read the wiki? I don't care what the answer is, go read it again
/r/steroids/wiki
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So uh going back to the question that started a huge (seperate) argument

For the people who lift for aesthetics, what percent of your max do you use for weights?

I ask because you obviously know how to put on mass better than me and longer. I'm just wondering what happens when I'm feeling weak as shit but still going through the motions. What could I still get away with to promote growth?
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>>39479938
80-85% working sets of 12-f then drop sets usually going to 60% then 40%.
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>>39479794
Lurk more fgt
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>>39479938
For shit like bench? My 1rm is 255, every day chest workout is warmup on 135x5, 185x5, 205x5, 225x5

So I'm doing sets of 70% 80% 90% x5 2 times a week, and then incline/decline bench and like 5 other accessories. A lot of people with better chests than I do volume and I've been incorporating super sets to failure of 135/185, but it's really more of just go and lift heavy shit a whole lot if you want to develop it.

Anyone else wanna chime in? I've only ever seen brick's workout besides mine.
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>>39480078
Mine is pretty great.
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>>39480088
Forgot to post pic of my brosplit aesthetics routine for 5"8' 130-150 lb manlets.

Show me yours?
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>>39480105
Arnold's agonist/antagonist routine with Nubret rep scheming. Nice growth.
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>>39479794

Needles and syringes are cheap enough you should never have to reuse them. And if they're too expensive for you, you probably shouldn't be roiding. Save up some more money before you start.

I got 100 syringes + 100 21g drawing pins + 100 25g injection pins for around $70 (including shipping).
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So just ignore this


I'm training hard and have aspirations of having a noteable physique in a few years.

I don't want people to try and say 'roiding for this' or anything to me because of my skin problems particularly on my shoulders in the coming year(s) as I post progress

This post and under trip is just proof that my skin problems predate even my lifting and therefore are obviously not steroid use. As the scars predate when I started lifting.

Anyways thanks again to MasT and NatT for all the advice and inspiration you have provided me.

I will take trip off now for the next year(s) until I have a decent physique no need to flame
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>>39480287

Oops wrong trip
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>>39480287
dont feel bad

people assume i took steroids because i have gyno

in reality i've had gyno ever since i was 11. i have pictures to prove it too.
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>>39480301

Oh no I don't really care too much about the scars.

I just don't want people to 'roiding for this' at me.

MasT inspired me to start lifting, and NatT has been supportive all along the way and I simply don't want them to think that I've been using steroids and half assing my lifting when I post progress for them
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>>39480287
>roiding for arm acne
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>>39480287
Noice dood. I'm glad you're sticking with it. Can't wait to see you shredded. I get a few pimples every now and then too, on my face and back most. Dw about it man, and keep with the exercise and dieting. You're gonna make it.

>>39480123
I'll check it out.
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>thought I was going to bed
>turns out that was a lie
>bunch of drug dealers and whores come over
>whores want me to be their pimp for a 50%cut
>50%!
>dealers give me 3meo-pcp
>giving me DMT to smoke
>whore is gonna fuck another guy latet to get me heroin
>i literally do nothing
>they just all mire me for some reason

Tip top kek highest degeneracy levels
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>>39480419
Try the 3-meo yet?
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>>39480405

Appreciate man. 2.5 months in, 193--->187---->179 now.

I will be hungry skeleton starving refuge mode at 160-155 and I'm so excited to get there and start my first bulk at +250 and put on some muscle.

You and MasT have really motivated me more than anything else to really push myself in the gym because I want to show you that you were right to believe in me and that the time MasT took answering questions and giving advice to myself and other anons wasn't wasted and that people do indeed listen to him and apply his advice.

One of Mast's posts in particular got to me where he wrote something like 'I give advice and I give advice and no one ever listens' and yet he still does it in the hopes someone out there does.

I've been really feeling happier in general since I started lifting and I credit you two with spurring me towards that change in my life.

So feel good NatT, while you were shitposting you inspired someone to get off their ass and do something
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>>39480419
Some people are just born to lead and others to whore.

You follow the dualist approach it seems.
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>>39480447
Yeah. Ate it in a gelcap smoking dmt and doing some whippits right now
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>>39480565
>whippits
But why?
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>>39480589
What's wrong with

Combine errythan available
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>>39480565
What was the dosage of the capsule?

Just for reference, 3-meo has contraindications with ecstasy or molly, I'd avoid taking that class of drug while on 3-meo or for a while after taking it.
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>>39480478
Wew lad. You're awesome despite knowing how to press my shitposting buttons and I'm so glad you're keeping with it. Make us prouder dood.

>>39480565
Fuck I miss dmt. It's been years maaaan, my favorite psych hands down even more so than LSD.

Do some whippets for me.

>>39480589
If you haven't done ketamine+whippets you haven't lived.
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>>39480602
That shit lasts for 30 seconds? I dunno I wish I had drugs. I'm in some fuck ass town that stops selling alcohol at 11:45. Definitely some bullshit going on around here.
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>>39480628
When are you gonna be my SARM's promoter?
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>>39480617
No idea on the dose, I'm just accepting whatevers being put to my mouth

This pile of clothes is breathing at me

I don't think I'll be doing any e but it's interesting to know that about it

What I really want is heroin but I wont complain about this other free shiet

>>39480628
Will do senpai

>>39480637
Eyyy free is free 30 seconds of free is still profit
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>>39480689
You'd have better luck getting me to shill real drugs for you if you wanted to make money off me. You know, things I'm interested in/doing now.

I need to check my throwaway email... realized I haven't for a couple weeks.

>>39480700
Thanks famalam.
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>>39480700

>just accepting whatever is being put into my mouth

tfw you aren't with ESTP RIGHT NOW

Reeeeeeeee

Also accepting everything put down your throat?
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>>39480700
Send whores. I need some fuck.
>>39480736
You don't need my help sourcing that shit I don't think? I can get whatever but moving it is another story.
>>39480765
>Also accepting everything put down your throat?
Ughhh I wish I could face fuck the shit out of some skank right now.
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Have access to legit Superdrol clone, can get tamox for PCT as well.. worth it for boost to winter bulk?
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>>39480790

Bruh I'm doing no fap sort of.

2 days in ATM. Sex drive through the roof. Want to legit rape 90% of the women at the gym.

I kind of like no fap. Makes you feel like an animal. Thirst is unreal.

I was with my gf, we fugged 5x a day, we broke up (bitch left me :( :( :() and now I don't get laid much, once in a while I find some slut

But I like it because I can get that animal crazy no fap feel now. Could never get it with gf.
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>>39480790
Nah. I just have issues receiving is my only problemo and I don't have time to set it up securely and make it worth it over the next 3 months. It's whatever tho.
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>it's almost time for NatT to make a new thread
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my gf wants to get pregnant but i dont want to come off my cruise

can i get the job done if i blast HCG or something?
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Just finished my first pin of my first cycle. No PIP.

Planning on taking AI from the second pin onwards. Ideally 0.25-0.50mg daily depending on bloods.

When is the ideal time to introduce AI? (See pic for full cycle details)
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>>39464992

Very interested in trying this as I've got some dnp lying around and am due to come off great 1st the end of January when it's nice and cold.

My question is, what if the effect of running a deficit during pct? Would you have to effectively bulk diet to counter the metabolic effect of dnp or will a small deficit not significantly eat up your gains during pct?

I have a fuck load of hcg so I hope it will be a pretty rapid recovery.
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>>39481172
When and if you need it. I have some just in case but never use it because I don't really aromatise. Don't crash your oestrogen like I did on my first cycle just because you think you always need AIs. Wait and see first.
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>>39481209
>great 1st
gear around

Fucking auto correct
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>>39479414
yeah, i get that. i broke through my goal though by a few lb, so i figured it wouldn't hurt.
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>>39473408
>>
>moar 3meopcp
>boys telling me they are my toys
>say i can use them as I please
>i know

They want me to validate them wew

Cult leader w h e n
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>>39481529
Reminder that this is a lie.
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>>39481529
You lost your most willing toy tho senpai.
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>>39481051
some people can get biches preggo on bnc even without hcg, hcg is usually more than enough but if it seems like it won't help a serious pct (hcg + nolva + clomid) might be needed

dont take it as a fact, just what ive read online

>my gf wants to get preg
worded it like you wouldnt want that to happen kek
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>>39481655
You are a decent guy.
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>>39480419
>this trip
>calling others druggies and whores
>thinking hes being mired
>calling others degenerate as a heroin addicted professional dick sucker

555-COME ON NOW
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>>39477220
>>Nah tren is awful.

>runs it for like a year straight

so awful
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>>39481529
You sound so desperate to be liked and acknowledged on a Peruvian Sheep Shearing Image Board.

I really pity you. :(
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Complete noob here, how much money does a beginner cycle cost?

Let's say 12 weeks Test-e 250mg plus AI
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>>39480105

I don't believe this routine has enough volume even for a natural BB who has been lifting for 6 years.

Your physique however is impressive but I have to say I'm surprised you've see those results with this routine

I know you posted it before but I never looked at it.

>post your routine

Too much volume for a natty, is a 7 day brosplit that takes me 3-4 hours to complete with max 60 secs in between sets.

I have seen results but I am on pretty heavy (750mg) dose of test

I want to start using trenbalone to reach a comp ready state and hop on the stage.

>>39480078

Regardless I do enjoy when we discuss routines, workouts, and fitness as opposed to talking about ex girlfriends or how every man wants to be us and every woman wants us or how many dicks we suck for money.
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>>39480447
3-meo is fun, did a few years ago - its a dissociative tho, so be careful when dosing. A little can mean a lot more lol. Also dat synergy with weed and alcohol. Take care but enjoy
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>>39482198
he's 5'8 140lbs dude
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>>39482323
top kek
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Sucked my first dick for 3 vials of test today... fuck man what the fuck happened. I thought this shit wasnt supposed to be addictive.
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>>39482438
>sucking dick for the equivalent of ~$90
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>>39482450
>not sucking dick for the price of anal
i'm not even gay but i'd consider it
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>3meopcp continues
I just lived 7 different realities
Apparently in my black out high I called notbf 103 times
He got pissed

Shit straight out of a movie. I was in my room so I didn't see but one of the guys here just took a bite out of a glass cup

Kept chewing

Roommate screamed and puked
They got him to spit it out
He doesn't even remember doing it

Top kek

I am not fond of this drug

I wanna sleep
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>>39482505
>one of the guys here just took a bite out of a glass cup
>Kept chewing
#thuglyfe
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>>39482505
ESTP I'm curious what cycle did you do and do you have progress pic?
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>>39482656
heroin .5g e3d
fuck old dudes for money e2d
pcp to failure
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>source tells everyone that they have a safe way to do email money transfers without risking privacy breaches
>it's literally just sending money to their tutanota email account
>the same one plastered all over the clearnet that you can easily Google and see they only sell illegal stuff
Jesus Christ
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>>39482747
what's an email money transfer, wtf?
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>>39482799
it's a canadian thing

http://interac.ca/en/interac-e-transfer-consumer.html
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>>39482505
Can you just over dose already and stop fuckin calling me at 4 in the morning. Fuckin doggo was losing mind over magic vibrating bedside table thing. Nigga I need sleep before I go do a 12 fuck one of your methed out limp dicks. Pilgore ain't got the time a day for your sour snatch. Herpes spreading ho.
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>>39482834
>>39482747
haha that one source that blew up on sst, brans shawarma?
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>>39482844
I love you too, Moe

Miss you

Dream about you

;^)
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>package was supposed to get here today
>constantly tracking it and waiting to see when it finally gets here
>"Verifying recipient's address; Possible delay"
The dumb nig forgot to include my apt number and now I'm not gonna receive my shit
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>>39482953
Clean house and move to Nicaragua.

Maybe call the post office with the tracking number and ask them to hold it at one of the offices so you can go and pick it up instead of having them deliver it to the wrong person and them opening it.
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>>39482953
well if its his fault like you say, he will resend it for sure
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>>39482966
>call the post office with the tracking number and ask them to hold it
Yeah, only way he's going to resolve the delivery exception, unless someone else that looks at it recognizes the name and apartment number then reroutes it, but odds are against that. He needs to get a hold of them ASAP, they tend to return things to sender nearly automatically if there's a hangup anywhere in the process, and that's going to be a problem.
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>>39473810
It's me again.

So I pinned 250mg of test E yesterday, took 0.5mg of armidex and my Estrogen is 44 pg/ml today but my fucking dick is still dead. I'm less sleepy but I can't fucking get erection.

Is this still too high or I'm fucked for making it too low?

Please help me.
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>>39483028
ref. fange is 39 pg/ml btw
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>>39482986
Lol some random ass person is going to get a pack of steroids for free.

>>39483028
Are you getting bloods done every couple days or something? 44pg/ml is the high end of the range for e2 but nobody knows where your e2 should be to feel best. I think there's some gh15 thing going around that says it should be ~35pg/ml iirc.

You need to consistently dose the adex, not pop it randomly. Like I told you before dose it .5mg e3d and then get bloods after 3 weeks or so. Your libido is also strongly controlled by your brain not just hormone levels.
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>>39483074
>Are you getting bloods done every couple days or something? 44pg/ml is the high end of the range for e2 but nobody knows where your e2 should be to feel best. I think there's some gh15 thing going around that says it should be ~35pg/ml iirc.
I'm fucking panicking because I don't like the state my dick is in.

>You need to consistently dose the adex, not pop it randomly. Like I told you before dose it .5mg e3d and then get bloods after 3 weeks or so. Your libido is also strongly controlled by your brain not just hormone levels.
My dick and libido were fine on 86 pg/ml of E2.
I was just dizzy and depressed as fuck.

Now I have more enrgy at 44 pg/ml but my dick is dead.

Fuck that shit.
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>>39483083
>fucking panicking because I don't like the state my dick is in.
Well the constantly fluctuating hormone levels aren't going to help you.

>>39483028
I'd fix her tire and then fuck her in the backseat.

>>39482986
Have you ever used echeck payment system for the Indians?
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>>39483083
lol

are you on finasteride or something wtf

who has a dead dick with high testosterone levels and e2 in range?

inb4 his test has deca in it
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>>39483114
No, just Test E
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fugg. Saw PPL had 2 packs likely seized in customs, I think both in SF though so it's their own fault.

>>39483114
His test levels would be off the charts then because it seems like test lc/ms shows deca as super high test levels.
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>>39483136
o yea forgot about that

wait ppl got packs seized, wtf?

i thought everyone jerks their dicks to their stealth methods?

i heard customs are way worse in one spot than the other for the US. I think new york is the easiest one to get past, right? is SF the hardest?
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>>39483114
ur glands have deca in it

i heard texas and florida are hard
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>>39483147
SF is usually a no go for anyone.

Their stealth is pretty basic unless they have a couple different methods. I know there's one place that ships with some crazy stealth that you wouldn't find even if you ripped everything open.

>>39483166
I thought the only two were NY and SF. I feel like trying to hide the shit makes it seem inherently criminal even if it's SARMs like memek911.
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>>39483193
PPL as in the source that includes a color and the name of an animal?
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>>39483200
Yeah.
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>>39483222
weird i always see people sucking ppls dick over their stealth and how good it is.
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>>39483228
Most of the people on sst are new to the game and probably slightly mentally retarded though so I wouldn't put much trust in their opinions.
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>>39482901
Don't fuck dream me either he don't need herpes anymore than I do. Fuckin meesha.
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I've read the best source is a guy at the gym you meet. Let's pretend I'm slightly autistic and human interaction is one of my biggest failings. I've been to SST on reddit and was wondering if anyone has dealt with their verified sources. Should any from that list be safe to use?
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>>39483715

What country do you live in?
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>>39483715
>I've read the best source is a guy at the gym you meet.
lol dude that's just a meme

we all use sst here except for a couple retards who use darknet markets
>>
new thread needed
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For those of you who B&C how long do you wait between cycles? I've seen people blast for a year and people who take a year off after 3 months on but whats a good standard? How long does it usually take to get your bloods back to normal?

>inb4 get a billion blood tests
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>>39483727
The US
>>39483740
Used any yourself that you could recommend vaguely haha
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>>39483805
the completely arbitrary rule most people give themselves is time off = time on, with the length of blasts being typical cycle lengths (12-20 weeks)

but yes the real answer is that the only way to be sure you're ready for your next blast is to get bloods
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>>39483805

i wait 1 more month than the time i have blasted.

So if i blast for 3 months, i take 4 months off.
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>>39483815
pretty much any verified source that is active in that subreddit
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>>39483815
no source talk allowed here

what I'll say is that verified sources are trustworthy.
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>>39483843
>>39483846
Thanks!
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>>39483898
>>39483898
>>39483898
>>39483898
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>>39483841
>>39483832

fuck I just went with 3 on 1 off for the last 3 cycles... guess ill have to get bloods more often than twice a year.
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