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Wasting gains on worst girl edition
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>>39371682
Can i mix different brands of test for a single pin?

Got about 0.5ml of pharma grade test left in a vial and i'm switching to some ugl stuff now, can i do a pin with 0.5ml of each or could it cause major pip?
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>>39371682
SECOND PLACE BITCHS

GETING BUFF FOR YOUR WAIFU
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>>39371701
jerry needs to post more selfies
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>>39371698
i dont see the problem with it but you would get zero benefit of doing that.

>>39371736
im sure hes buffer now
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JBFLGF
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>>39371744
He is da buff nerd of fraud.
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>>39371744
the benefit is not wasting the last drop of precious pharma grade muscle nectar
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>>39371752
Imagine being Anon in his basement and having to be all like "damn, masT, you fuckin' fine, all sexy with your tight body and horrific androgynous monster face. I would totally have sex with you, both in online LARP, and the real me." when all anon really wants to do is fuck another 16 year old in his dressing room. Like seriously imagine having to be masT's girlfriend and not only sit in that chair while masT flaunts his disgusting body in front of you, the favorable lighting barely concealing his stretchmarks and leathery roid acne infested skin, and just sit there, take after take, hour after hour, while he perfected his pose. Not only having to tolerate his monstrous fucking visage but his haughty attitude as everyone on 4Chan tells him he's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, masT LOOKS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch his mannish fucking gremlin face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. Anon's been masturbating to nothing but a healthy diet of blondes and supermodels and later alleged rape victims for his ENTIRE LIFE coming straight out of the shitposting lands of Australia. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on masT's dimpled stomach as he sucks it in to writhe it suggestively at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get insulted while sitting there and revel in his "statuesque (for that is what he calls himself)" beauty, the beauty he worked so hard for with testosterone and masteron in the previous months. And then masT calls for another take, and you know you could kill both him and his girlfriend before he could contort out of his flexing pose to put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Anon. You're not going to lose your future tripfag career over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.

made by natT, he needs to finish his meme
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Is 3-4 isolation(arms-shoulders-chest-back) work out days alright for a cut.

Feels like doing more than that (each workout's a little over an hour) is kinda counter productive on a cut.

>doing legs
>EVVVVERRRRR
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>>39371682
No...bimbo nooooooooooo
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>>39371682
Bimbo I know she's your oneitis
but she has a massive unattractive bitch face
you could do way better
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How troll would it be to send Dbol as Letro?

>Some poorsap grows every bigger boobs instead of losing them
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>>39371986
what happened to bimbo
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>go to bed at 12:30
>wake up at 3:15 AM
>freezing cold from windows being open, but drenched, I mean literally sopping wet from sweating
>close all the windows
>lay back down on bed, realize it's too wet, turn on the light
>literally a POOL of sweat on the bed, not metaphorically, but a literal pool of sweat has formed in the middle of the bed
>lay on the ground with a new dry pillow

20 minutes later

>freezing cold but starting to warm up slightly
>fresh pillow that was just dry is now soaked all the way through
>blanket is 200% soaked
>the fucking carpet is so wet it's soaked all the way down to the padding
>fall asleep in office chair with towel underneath me and legs propped up on desk
>finally able to sleep

I think last night might have been my last day at 1g; this is too fucking ridiculous.

a-at least I woke up 2.2lbs lighter r-right?
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Like 3 weeks out or so and still have 6 lbs to make weight.

Hopefully I can lose a majority of it in water.

Biggest fear is not making weight but at least I'll still be able to compete in classic.

I want to do both though.

Anyone have experience cutting water? Tips?
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>>39372326
im pretty sure that in this situation it might be entirely water but by the end of today it will increase to like 3-4 and that would be true wheight loss. but to early to tell since you pooled part of your body on the bed, remeber 1 gallon of water is 8lbs.

what would you go down to ?
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>>39372343
sleep in sauna
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>>39372343
cutting salt(duh), saran warping around key spots and wearing it under your cloths all day, medical water pills, drinking prune juice so you shit out what you might've eaten and the classic wrestler diet of eating celery only 3 days before because its practically zero calories.

the wrestlers know how to cut weight ask them
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>>39372347
I doubt it's entirely water; I'm retaining water like a motherfucker. Looking horribly bloated.

I've been waking up 1.5-2.5lbs lighter every day steadily since the first day of 750mg. Would probably go back down to that and if the nights are still unbearable, which they shouldn't be *as* bad, drop to 500.

Length of run won't change, Sunday is last day.
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>>39372360
well i normaly count it as wheight loss after 3 days of early morning wheigh in's

but thats pretty steady.
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>>39372359
Do you think 6 lbs in water is very doable?

I'm planning to cut carbs out completely the week before the show then slowly introduce them back in a day before or so.

I'm worried that if I drop too much water and carbs I'll end up looking flat but I'm not sure how the weigh ins work in accordance to the show.

My first show so I suppose I'd weigh in and then I could carb up and not worry about weight?
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>>39372384
depends on how long you got ?

6lbs with seran wraping around your stomach/legs would make you lose plenty of water in those areas if your willing to wear it all day that is.

is the wheigh in the day before or the day of ? if the day of then you fucked if the day before than it would be easy as shit to get to that wheight.

prune juice has maganse and its a powerful laxative if you take plenty of it. your gonna stomach will look much leaner becuase of not having any food solid or other wise in your stomach.

if you have 1 week then its easy anything less than that and your fucked
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>>39372384
you are deep down the rabbit hole already (saw your stack)
why dont you just take DNP too
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>>39372399
meant to say if its the day of then itd be hard to get the carbs you need to get full if the day before then you could get to that by overloading dextrose and gatorade no fucking problem.
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>>39372399
I have about 3 weeks to lose another 6 lbs.

Currently at 230. Cut off is 224.

I was trying to get down to 226 before I lost the water so I can have a little wiggle room. Ideally I want to be at 226 then drop another 6-10 lbs of water and get to 220ish or 218ish.
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>>39372416
well your good just be sure to check "making wheight" in the various MMA/boxing/wresteling/martial arts websites that exist.

btw you look juicey so good for you and good luck
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>>39372409
I would but the sources I trust and go through don't carry it.

I may be deep in the rabbit hole but I tend to stay away from things that can actually do harm if they are overdosed.

Sure I'm on a bunch of juice but I could inject a whole vial and not die. I can't say the same for DNP.

Too much and you're fucked.
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>>39372421
Thanks man.

I tend to overthink when I get close to things like this that cause me anxiety.

I'm ready for bulking season to start so I can go back to not starving. Even though I still want to maintain a relatively lean physique and clean diet.
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>>39372431
TL:DR
http://fourhourworkweek.com/2008/01/18/how-to-cut-weight/

Epson salt baths also help quite alot but ive never done them to make weight.
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>>39372448
It's so funny you linked this. I'm listening Tim ferris' audiobook the 4 hour work week.

He mentioned that is how he won a championship belt in a martial art after only training 6 months.

He cut a shit ton of weight and exploited the knock down rule since he was so much heavier. He disqualified his opponents by knocking them out of the circle or whatever 3 times in a row.
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ayyy I made the op while I was drawing my test this morning

>took viagra & then worked arms like a madman
>couldn't shower properly
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>>39372343

Why do guys like Jeff Seid have a body that looks 100 times better then pic related?

I mean they both carry a lot of muscle and have low bodyfat, why does jeff for example look so much better?

Is it all about the insertions? Not trying to hate bro.
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>>39372485
frame, height, insertions
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>>39372469
cutting water wheight sucked, last time i had to cut wheight for anything i lost 10lbs in 2 weeks while only eating 3 cans of tuna, i might do it again just to short cut myself to the size that i need to be at.

take all my advice with a grain of salt but ive had plenty of luck with seran wraping and prune juice so it might help you if you havent done it before
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>>39372485
no its not all about insertions.
I think insertions are just most important for chest and abs.

its also about training the body to make it as asthetic as possible.

There are muscles that need the right size to look good.

few examples in my opinion.

>huge rear delts look shit
>side delts shouldnt pop too hard, when they start looking comical
>huge front delts are a must
>biceps should be medium size, but triceps should be xbox huge with all 3 heads very developed
>forearms. Everyone seems to neglect fucking forearms
>huge glutes and hamstrings look fucking retarded, quads should be the dominant leg muscle check out matt ogus why.
>huge lat, small teres major = bad combo
>lower traps = crucial af in my opinion
Also jeff has much much better abs than ghandi.

Seriously this may sound retarded, but after observing a lot of people and their bodys, i came to my own idea of how muscle groups should be sculpted and what size they need.
Since then, i got so much more asthetic than before. Like seriously much more asthetic.

But otherwise, yes insertions play a big role
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>>39372485
It's proportion.

He's got a super tiny waist and broad shoulders.

I have broad shoulders but also big hip bones.

I also have shit abs and never work them out (starting to now).

My body type is more optimized towards a fat powerlifter mode/strongman mode.

I hope my abs will get better if I work them out.

We also have to take into account photography skills.

I've seen some shots of Jeff that make him look like he doesn't even lift. Then he has professionally shot photos that make him look waaaaay bigger.
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>>39372360
changed my mind im gonna cut 30lbs and be try fighting again as a light heavy wheight fighter.

time to go low carb again. shouldnt be hard ive got a solid means of doing so. and with the new workout that im doing i should still see gains while losing wheight. might do a short 2 week intense cut then ease my way into it.

swollens autism in regards to dnp scared me plenty.
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>>39371948
you should do as much work as you can recover from, sometimes more followed by a deload
yes even on a cut
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>>39372384
>Do you think 6 lbs in water is very doable?
chris duffin dropped 35 lbs of water before a competition once
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>>39372542
>I've seen some shots of Jeff that make him look like he doesn't even lift.

pic related.

i think he was natty back then though, defo isnt anymore.
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>>39372650
u think alot, but u dont think clever
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>>39371116
You do you dood. Good you're cleaning up your life.

>>39371193
Yes, I'm so leftist. I'm for small government, small business opportunity, capitalism, gun rights, and personal freedom above anything that doesn't infringe on anyone else's freedom.

If we're being honest based on that alone I'm more conservative than most republicans.

Who's the cuck now, cuck boy? Not my fault you can't see the logical fallacy I pointed out.

>>39371210
Awww. Get a motorcycle dood, teaches you how to drive manual pretty well and easy desu. Can't help about the night terrors, I get those every blue moon I guess.

>>39371318
France 3 mos>Spain 6>France again 3 mos>Italy 6 mos>Germany 6mos>Switzerland 6 mos then I'm making my way to Sweden through Russia and surrounding countries to stay with some close friends. After visiting das nederland I'm making my way to glorious nippon land, Nz, and other areas around there one way or another, staying out of the north UK, Africa, and most of the 'stans.

That's my only plan rn.

And it's more than 3.75 weeks, plane ticket isn't scheduled until late feb.

>>39371910
I'M TRYING DOOD, the program I'm using is being gay and not moving the cutouts and I haven't figured out why.
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>>39372683
>dyel detected
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should have waited for vacations to use dnp

I'm already feeling a cold coming on, I'm guessing dnp is raping my immune system

and I just want to sleep all day
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>>39372343
There was a good water weight losing tip that I saw from a pro boxer once. He did something like 1 liter of water, day 5, 3/4, day 4, 1/2, day 3, 1/4, day 2, then nothing at all day of. If you need to lose more hit the sauna and eat some dandelion root extract. I usually cut 5-6 lbs in the sauna through straight dehydration for wrestling weigh ins.

The trick is to go from a lot of water intake to none by the time of competition. Pretty standard for all weight class sports TBQH.
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>>39372730
Or maybe it was a gallon instead of liter, liter sounds like too little. I can't remember if he was a europoor or American.
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>>39372557
Even in amateur they will kick your ass so hard in light heavy weight.
Because of you are 5'11.
Btw I am the boxer anon from one of the previous threads.
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>>39372752
fuck forgot about height and frame advantages most of those dudes are 6'2-65

yeah gonna go lower
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>>39372760
Average for lhw is 6"1'-6"1.5'

Even at welters it kind of sucks with the height advantage most have on me, but I make it work desu.

But to get to average for 5"11' you'd have to be just above welters at 145 lbs. that kind of a cut would SUCK for you, desu and you'd look like the ultra skinnyfags who are amateur boxers.
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>>39372710
that pic is taken after this one
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>>39372785
well fuck might just train to fight and get sparing in at 200lbs and not compete then.

i could do middle wheight but id be losing out on my separate athletic goals of being a mix of strong/endurance.

well thanks for the info i havent fought since i was 155lbs at 15yr would be hellish cut now, id have to lose alot of muscle on my legs and ass to do so.
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>>39372808
well not sure if you are trying to argue, but this just further proves mine and ghandi's point
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>>39372715
how much u on / weight?
>>39372808
>ez achievable natty in one y!!
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>>39372823
im just trying to argue the fact that he was natty in that pic
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>>39372833
well i dont think it works that way.

The pic i posted, is natural. No tricks, no tanning, no lighting, no angle, no shopping. Just the way he is. So my pic is the real deal, yours is "enhanced".
That pic proves ghandis point, where Jeff looks fucking in sane on some pictures but he actually isnt. He looks good, but not as good as your pic.

If Jeff looked like your pic (which he doesnt, look at mine for reference) back then, then yes he defo a fraud.

Again, this is the real deal >>39372650

But as i said, Jeff isnt natty anymore and you can see it very clearly in his latest videos. And also on his nips lmao.

yes im autistic
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>>39372810
>lose alot of muscle on my legs and ass

Yup. Welcome to my physique.

Go train at a gym dood, it's still fun and a good workout, plus practical application for mascle.
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>>39372856
of course he doesnt look as he does in a studio but it was pretty obvious that he shrunk down quite a bit before your pic was taken
he is an ifbb pro in your pic, just to remind you
he went off cycle, as simple as that
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>>39372760
If you believe in your talent you can go full mike tyson and go lhw.
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Any of u fags smoke?
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What is a reasonable percentage of alcohol to minimize PIP?

My friend just acquired some 300mg/ml test-e and it contains 2% benzyl alcohol. Seems a little high to me (for 300mg/ml) but I'm not exactly experienced with this.
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4KITS IS DOWN
Wat do
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DId I miss Swollen Glands posting a progress pic or did he pussy out again?
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>>39372964
that i dont but thanks for the input
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Whats a good starting dose for mast? I've heard 1:1 with tren is a good combo but im on 800mg. Tossing in an extra gram seems like a fucking stupid idea.
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>>39373021
You're on 800mg of what?
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>>39373042
tren
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>>39373021
i feel like the ratio isnt very important
500 would probably be more than enough, depends on what sides you are prone to really
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>>39372965
no.
i like weed sometimes tho, like once a month
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>>39373021
400 is personally my sweet spot.
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>>39373045
Well I don't really know anything about your advancement and such but if 800mg of tren (and I assume a decent amount of test) isn't doing it for you you might want to look at your diet and training before you start pinning more gear.
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>>39373021
whats even the point of doing anything other than test?

why, just why? You can get fucking big with test alone, why would you risk potential other sides by taking other compounds.

Test makes you big, it gives you vasularity, it makes you look full on low bf.

Everyone fucking around with all these compounds the fuck
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>>39373095
everybody has different aesthetic goals and those other compounds tend to give you just that.
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>>39373095
high test can give worse sides than other compounds for some people
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>>39373108
>being this delusional

2 persons with the same genetics and the same muscle mass are going to look absolutely the same apart from some minor things that no one gives a fuck about, even when one is taking test only and the other runs 5 compounds all at once.

>different goals
i really doubt this faggot wants to compete.

I think he runs all this shit because he looks dogshit on test alone because he is a fucking failure so he just keeps adding compounds and upping the dose and hopes that will work out.

>TRIGGERED
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>>39372730
Yeah you guys definitely put my mind at ease. I'm actually going to increase my caloric intake slightly since I know I can drop the water weight a lot more than i thought.
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>>39373126
>being this delusional

NO NO NO, you see here steriods do have different affects on the body. masteron is a DHT derivative for fuck sakes, you cant possibly think that different compounds wont do different things when mast is literally a different hormone than testosterone, he would still need test as his base but with higher basicly modifed DHT levels he would see much more different results than he would without the compound added.

even if hypothetically the androgenic/androgen ratio was the same for doseing if the test magically converted to DHT enough to fill that gap, which it fucking wont 100% of the time. shit even creatine barely does it with little success for those who are responders to it.
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>>39373089
The tren is definitely doing it for me but mast seems like it would be even more useful for the look I'm going for. No reason not to try some out.

>>39373126
where are you even getting this information yo? I have a high sensitivity to estro so I try to run shit that doesn't touch it with a low test base.

If you really think all steroids are the same you gotta go back to Biology 101
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>>39373160
carbs make you hold water weight more so due to glycogen storage being saturated, so id recomend it be in fat content. itll decrease your hunger because of saitey and it taking less of a hit on your insluin levels than carbs would. obv eating more meat would be ideal
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>>39372343
fucking mirin hard. You look insane

How did you get that shredded, i am curious

>>39372485
WHY DO YOU STILL COMPARE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ISN'T YOU WITH PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD YOU UTTER HOMO

Fucking cringe get worse each ed over here

>butt he looks better
>he
>not me
>wizard
>zyzz
>cuck
fucking post your own pictures for once and try to btfo people with your own picture instead of yourself
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>>39373176
Well if the tren is working for you I'd recommend sticking to it. Try your mast on your next blast/cycle and see how well it works. Then you can combine them with better knowledge of their sides alone.

Also you got trolled pretty hard by that guy.
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>>39373095
That's the thing. If all you care about is lean body mass gain then you can just stick to test and have a good diet and eat at a surplus and grow.

However, drugs like mast, tren, and primo give distinct "looks" to the muscle. They promote that dry hard look that you can't get with straight test because of the water retention you get.

That's why competitors pull out test before the show but keep tren mast and all the other hardening shit.

Speaking from a cost/risk analysis point of view, there's very little reason to anything else besides Test. Maybe some deca added in if you're wanting a boost but still not necessary.
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>>39373000
Its the funnier way of boxing.
Also it gives you more potential in streetfights,it makes your evasion and close punching godlike.
Try it man,you'll look huge and you'll be able to fight.
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>>39373160
Ya dood, just watch your weight and drink linearly less water over the week before weighing. If you're above day before, hit the sauna naked and constantly towel off your sweat and keep weighing yourself until you're .5-1lb under. You got dis.
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>>39373196
True. Imo mast gives me the best look, combined with low test. With test only i get really watery and look like shit

I never looked better than on mast + test. On test only i look like shit. Mast and i have that special kind of relation. NO BITCH GIVES ME THE SAME LOVE
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>>39373188
Were you posting without your trip yesterday? Just curious.
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>>39373185
Yeah if I eat 300g carbs I can easily gain a few pounds.

>>39373188
Thanks bro!
Started at cardio EOD 30 mins.
Now doing it 30 mins E/D, 1 hour on Sunday's.

Carb cycling between 300g to 150g carbs, keeping protein really high (350-400g) Fats at around 60g.

Usually get around 2750-2850 kcal a day.

I'm usually very hungry most of the time but I cheat Friday-Saturday.

I'm too close to competition to cheat though

I'll probably ramp up my calories to 3200 if I feel like I need it.

>>39373240

Yeah you have that very hard look. You could compete right now and do well desu. You'd kill it.
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Woof I did not sleep well I kept waking up
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>>39373254
im sure you'll do fine for the cut no problem

good luck brother post picks of the competion and your future steriod/diet/workout bulking plan.

>>39373275
tell us more.
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>>39373251
Yeah that was me. I have tried to talk sense the faggots for ages. FUCKING GET THE RESULTS, or don't roid at all.

And they're also on dnp and still manage to be fat. because muhhh yoloo muhh zyzz mentality

>>39373254
I am doing 40 min cardio ED. I am also carb cycling, sort of. But i am not NEARLY shredded as you. I would like to have the same shreds as you.

What are you on?

When are you competing? keep me updated on your progress, you're one the few that looks like he roids over here. Mirin

I can't compete again the bbc, their genetics are superior to me
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>>39372305
butt secks
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>>39373290
I just got us a hotel since she was super sleepy. Slept like 11 hours.
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>>39373310
any night terrors ?
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>>39373336
Yeah a lot
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>>39373340
never had them but what where they about ?
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>>39373254
Mirin leg veins.
>>39373340
Sup dewd?
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>>39373299
Honestly surprised me how you're so fucking based, masT. Mirin your new cbt pics too, your sides are looking more and more shredded.

Had a lot of respect for you before, and even more so now.
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>>39373340

was the night terror about this ?
>Implying bimbo doesn't shove a beer bong tube up her ass, pour vodka down it, light it on fire as it goes down the funnel, through the tube and then into her butt then he shoves his tounge down the tube, into her butt, wiggle it around and then drink the vodka
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>>39373359
Only people who are jelly don't respect me.

Do you want to be my internet friend? I have no friends
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>>39373442
This is fucking T taper,great man.
>I have no friends.
Nice bullshit,you cant stop without trolling/baiting for a second,can you ?
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>>39373442
think it has more to do with the daily iteration of "WHATS UP FAGGOTS IM BETTER THAN YOU".
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>>39373358
I'm tired man
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>>39373449
>>39373455
No i am honest. Why do you think i am bodybuilding for and post pictures of myself to get attention over

It's making sense to me now. I was really under the impression that i really had something to live for, but it's not.

I am dead now bye
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>>39373442
I'd chug protein shakes, and lift weights with you dood.

… We can work up to you spotting my bench, right?
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>>39373455
You just got baited.
>>39373480
Your baiting skills suprasses your body by much.
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>Spend half the fucking morning trying to get avidemux and all of it's retarded broken plugin dependencies to install properly
>get to the point my blood is boiling not just because of the DNP
>remember that handbrake can do subtitle encoding
>ready to fucking shoot myself, just run a fucking perl script to convert sub to srt
>encode w/ handbrake
>tfw just wasted three goddamn hours installing broken dependencies so I could use a base program in the end
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgp_zNfwav4

I FUCKING KNEW IT

WOMEN ARE WHORES

ROBIN GALLANT CHEATED ON JEFF NIPPARD WITH CEO OF GYMSHARK

FIRST I WAS JUST MEMEING BUT IT IS TRUE
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>>39373504
but you are a decent guy.
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>>39373511
SHE CHEATED ON HIM WHILE SHE WAS AWAY ON THE GYMSHARK UK TOUR TO CLARIFY
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>>39373511
>women are whores

literally the entire meaningless existence of women is as breeding tools

artificial wombs will be so amazing

jerry can even implant one in his onahole

>>39373516
t-thanks for the doggo friendo
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>>39373464
Smoke a bowl and get some rest.
>>39373480
Looking sick dude.
>>39373511
>>39373521
I didn't watch the video yet. Did she really cheat?..
God I fucking hate liars...
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>>39373538
oh hes ready.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu5Vw_j-7aY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz3ovutYJtg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3q2mXDSqRU
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>>39373560
I have stuff to do
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>>39373560
my guess it that she did because
1. they broke up when she came home not before
2. the CEO was on the tour
3. women are whores
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>>39373564
Then pop some caffeine and JUST DO IT!
>>39373568
The only thing that is weird is didn't she break ties with gym shark and no longer rocks their shit?
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>>39373591
no that was with guzman's brand
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Just finished my first cycle and PCT. Just got my bloods back. My estradiol is shot. What the fuck is going on?
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Also speaking about bench, noticed a protrusion on my palm when benching today, pic related, it was pretty uncomfortable, and boarderline painful when benching >lmao2pl8.

It has the texture of a callous, appeared just today/yesterday, and is kind of painful when putting excessive pressure on it.

Doctor or it'll go away eventually? What say the Japanese weaboos recovery anonymous forum?
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>>39373604
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>>39373605
Your grip has issues.
Keep your wrist more straight while gripping the bar,this way bench wont pressure that point of your palm that much.
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>>39373604
>>39373612
likely just lowered due to the PCT meds, should bounce back just fine. Your test seems to have recovered well so that's good
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>>39373616
It might be my suicide grip desu. I might start trying to swap back to regular. I'll try this first and see if it improves in a week or so, ty anon.
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>>39371736
You need to post more boipussy

>>39373629
>suicide grip
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>>39373641
my boy jeri.
post a rare jerry.
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>>39373641
WHAT'S THAT JERRY? I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER HOW MANY MEMES YOU'VE FALLEN FOR.
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>>39373629
are you doing suicide grip because your grip sucks ? it would make zero reason to do that grip ever.

other than direct grip isolation work you can always do grip variations of pullups and more deadlifting.

>>39373641
you would like these videos
>>39373563
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>>39373669
>it would make zero reason to do that grip ever

try it out on cg bench fampai
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>>39373683
i would but why though ?

my guessing is that its easier on the wrists
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>>39373605

so it protrudes out? Strange. Might just be a bruise / welt?
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>>39373690
I dont know,but when I do suicide grip on CG bench press,I get better form and more tricep activation.
I cant understand this.
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>>39373690
not easier on the wrists necessarily, but isolates the arm a bit more
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>>39373668
Im sorry how much do you bench?

>>39373663
Nope.

>>39373669
Im so ready for the future
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>>39373704
i do dips for tricep isolation but i never workout my arms directly

ill consider it for that benefit
>>39373705
well my arms are weak and ive had to many elbow issues from doing curls. shit locks up and i dont know why, forms good but i dont have enough big bros in my area to confirm. idk ill work on it.
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>>39373701
Yeah, it protrudes out about the height of a dime from the palm of my hand. Just like a calous.

>>39373669
No, it's just my personal preference. I've been doing suicide grip ever since I started benching 7 years ago.

>>39373728
More than you.
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Day 4 of DNP @ 500mg

dear diary: whew, sweated my fucking arse off all night right into my comforter. pillow felt gross at 5am

that being said, I don't feel 'hot' per se as described, but I do sweat profusely at otherwise normal temperatures
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>>39373739
natT how long you have been liftan m8.
>>39373728
>nope
Why not m8.
Despite being a weeaboo you are bretty masculine.
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>cg benched 145 on cycle
>barely making 140 for a single on flat bench after pct

fuck the pct meme boys, gonna be about that b+c life from now on
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>>39373754
I hope its kilograms.
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>>39373762
Nah it's freedom units
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>>39373754
if you cant atleast make lmao2pl8 look light wheight then you shouldnt be touching steriods or comming off of them when you start.

its reachable in a year max less than that if you give a shit.
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>>39373769
Its a mistake starting to roid while being this new.
I was benching 125 lbs CG bench for 8 reps when I was a 1 month lifter.
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>>39373762
>>39373772
yes it's kg you morons
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>>39373789
how long was this cycle and what where you taking ?

not like it matters when your this weak but id be nice to see how badly you thought all this out.

for science not the memes
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>>39373739
I dont think so
Alrhough i legit dont bench anymore
Such a meme exercise for chest

>>39373748
Cause im fat. Also still have a good 10lbs of water weight to absorb atleast
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>>39373807
i assume you're actually looking for an answer from me

babys first 12 weeks test e @500mg/3.5d
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>>39373827
ok just to be sure you actual cycle
>falling for the cycle meme

if you didnt improve at all with steriods then your workout fucking sucks ass or your steriods where bunk
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>>39371682
ITT fags who won't pass the age of 45

Feels bad huh
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>>39373843
>if you didnt improve at all with steriods then your workout fucking sucks ass or your steriods where bunk
where did you get this from?
i'm this guy
>>39373754
>>39373803

bench increased from 130 for a grindy single to a comfortable 150 about week 10, peaked my close grip at 145 in week 12
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>>39373848
>wanting to die small without dreams fulfilled like a old fag

WOW WHAT A FAT FUCKING NEET
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>>39373803
Lol gotem! EPIC TROLL!!!
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>>39373855
They are scrawny faggots.
Its not like there are pros still alive,and they were blasting grams of compounds in their youth.
And 500 mg test is going to kill us.
Nice meme.
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>>39373748
7ish years now. Throwback time, this was a picture of me at 18 years old wrestling folk style at 8% tested body fat ~120 lbs after 2.5 years.

AND YOU THOUGHT MY OBLIQUES/PHYSIQUE ARE SHIT, NOW.

Wew.
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>>39373866
>that necklace
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>>39373885
>7ish years
Lmao grandpa get a life
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>>39373885
What are your lifts ?
Start roidin and left humanity behind.
You will only stall after this point in terms of gains.
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>>39373854
so you did improve but your complaining that it wasnt magical ?

did you increase the volume/frequency at all with your workouts or did you just increase the weight of which you where doing it at ? lacking to improve on either 3 aspects of lifting will only work against your goals.
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is mk677 making me tired af at night or am i dging
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>>39374000
No,you wont die because of you are under the protection of the KEK LORD after these repeating digits.
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>>39374017
PRAISE!
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>>39374000
It doesn't make me tired immediately or anything. It does help me sleep better.
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pinning quads can be such a fucking gamble. half the time it goes excellent and it's painless, the other half it hurts like fuck and leaks afterwards.
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>>39373904
Lifts are
145 ohp, 1xbody weight
255 bench, 1.76xbody weight
325 diddly, 2.24xbody weight
And my shitty 225x5 squat.

Nah dood, I still got work to do on my bod. I wanna add at least .5 to my bicep, blow up my chest more with Brick's workout probably, and bulk on ~10 lbs to my legs. I gotta check to see when my last bout's scheduled so I don't have to worry about my weight class anymore. I might switch my schedule to 4-1-3-4-2-3 so I can always get 2 chest days 2 legs days in a week on my split.

An anon actually gave me some decent advice while flaming me yesterday, and I also really wanna check with a doctor or physician maybe and see if I do actually have a flared rib cage, and if there's anything I can do to fix my chest gap/top abs melting with my ribs. So far it's my understanding that flared rib cage is actually a treatable/fixable deformity.

I don't need roids for that yet, and as far as I know roids won't fix any of my genetics.

Plus leaving humanity behind on a 5"8' frame looks pretty weird desu, even I'm not body dysmorphic enough to be blind to that. I'm chillin in ripped/otter mode.

Fugg when did I become a blogposter

>>39373901
You youngins don't know shit about lifting. Get off my lawn, jerry.
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>>39373511
How does it feel friends

To know no matter how aesthetic you get, they will still sloot on you
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>>39373879

>Arnold doesn't exist
These hooligans.
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>>39374069
height and money > face and body
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>>39374061
>145 ohp
>1xbodyweight

You weight 145? Jesus
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>>39374076
Not even.

It just depends what they feel like at the moment. There is no ending point.
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>>39374061
lol
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>>39374069
>implying I aesthetically lift for women and not that I lift in a vain attempt fix my body dysmorphia.

>>39374081
Yup. Welterweight is the heaviest I can box without getting absolutely obliterated by people 6 inches taller than me.
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>>39374054
Quads are ezpz. Just shoot high, closer to your hip rather than knee.
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>>39374050
it makes me tired at night really bad
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>>39374090
>It just depends what they feel like at the moment
true
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>>39374100
gross
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>>39373916
>>39373916
holy fucking shit mate, are you retarded? where are you inferring this from? i'm complaining that i came off brah, shit WAS like magic

I know how to periodize my training, i make a living doing it for other people, the basic structure was to have 8 weeks of volume and a 4 week strength peak over the course of the cycle, worked pretty well

i think you're confused and think you're talking to the guy talking about benching 100lbs or w/e
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>>39374127
>add 20 kg to bench in a week.
Ebin story lad.
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>>39374061
So weak baka
Do roids dingus

>tfw you dont even know how long youve been lifting anymore its just part of your life
Im old damn
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>>39374170
When you OHP your body weight and bench a better ratio than brick does I'll admit you're strong, senpai.

Seems like you gotta do more roids just to keep up, jerrbear.
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>>39374186
Jeri left humanity so hard even his joints cant keep up with him.
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>>39374186
>and bench a better ratio than brick does
Ratios are generally in your favour the lighter you are, so no surprises there
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>>39374218
Are you into plastic bre ?
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>>39374225
Yes

Natty is obv better, but plastic >> nothing any day
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>>39374186
I did 3pl8 bench over 3 years ago
Did you even have 2 pl8 then
Of course not you barely have it now

Why do manlets always bring out the weight ratios lmao
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>regressed to the point of pretending to be asleep before clas and during downtime in lab when everyone else is talking about parties and shit

LET THIS COLLEGE SEMESTER SHIT END SO I CAN SEE A SPECIALIST REEEEEEE FUCK
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>>39374249
brick is not a manlet.
>>39374236
I love perky boobs m8.
They ones you post looks like they are about to blow up.
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>>39374218
Brick's going for 1.83 soon, that fucker's insanely strong, and there's no reason a 200+ lb single digit bf power lifter who's been training for years can't lift 1.8x bw or even 2x. Ratios are still a pretty decent mechanic for judging strength imo, especially aesthetic lifters, and weight/bw and more linear than wilks which skews SUPER hard to the ultra big/fat power lifters.

>>39374249
Benching 315 when you weigh 300 isn't impressive jerrbear

;^)
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>>39374265
Join a circuss mate.
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>>39374276
>single digit bf power lifter
I thought we were talking about Brick rofl

>>39374273
>looks like they are about to blow up.
Delicious
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>>39374321
Aight bad example I was talking more about the aesthetic as faurk powerlifters people like to cherry pick who lift fuck tons for their body weight.

Brick is still stupid strong regardless, I don't think anyone disagrees with that.
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>>39374338
When did I disagree. I'm just saying a 150lbs lifter is generally always going to have higher ratios than a 200lbs lifter at the same level of competition.

Jerry is a fatty. You're making it hard on him.
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>>39374338
>cherry pick
stop saying this, a good powerlifter is lean and has muscles.
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>>39374265
How do you deal with the depression waves.
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>>39374148
am i being trolled?
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>>39374360
>a good powerlifter is lean
>good powerlifter is lean
>powerlifter is lean
>powerlifter lean

Show me the pictures of all your greatest world record breaking power lifters, anon. This one squatted over 1,000 lbs breaking a world record.

Where is this leanness you speak of?
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>>39374265
But how does your body look? Was it all worth it? That's the question. Did you do whatever it took to achieve it?

>>39373904
>You will only stall after this point in terms of gains.
DYEL ROIDER DETECTED.
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>>39374102
Well I don't see that as a bad thing? Sleep is the best supplement known to man.
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Took couple shots of whiskey and was walking to bar already with couple of friends untill I remembered that I've had taken 40mg Sdrol within 36hours. Noped the fucc out real fast

I am too pussy to play with my liver
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>>39374405
>thinks somebody who lifted 7 years naturally can add more muscle than 3 lbs a year
I like you but I cant deny you are a fucking retard.
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>>39374396
now you are the one cherry picking
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>>39374396
But what was his ratio?
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>>39374405
looks like vegangainz hopped on that there chicken

>>39374413
wait people actually worry about that? I've always tried to tone down the drinking but I cant imagine canceling plans just because of a cycle (unless you're doing contest prep I guess).

>>39374427
someone lifting 7 years natty is going to be lucky to put on anything at all. Anyone lifting seriously should probably jump on gear after year 5 if they hope to make any measurable gains.
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>>39374276
>muh weight moves weight

>>39374357
Im slim and svelte
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>>39374357
Idk dude, elite level comp has people of less than desireable leanness with pretty similar if not better weight ratios than skinnier, smaller, athletes. Look at the olympics this year, for example. There's a pretty big disparity between them all but there's a pretty exponential gain in lifted weight to body weight.

>>39374429
You said a "good" powerlifter is lean. I'm asking you to pick a picture of any of the best powerlifters, and prove what you said. How is it cherry picking when the heaviest weights and the highest achieved wilks points in powerlifting are unequivocally earned by athletes with less than desireable leanness?

>>39374435
You're a cheeky one, aren't you?
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>>39374396
the ipf is the biggest federation in the world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gFCBFLZ9GE
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>>39374396
>not understanding the concept of weight classes

w h e w lad don't fall for the autism meme, I like you
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>>39373299
I'm taking a lot right now.

Tren
Mast
Clen
Primo
Recently added EQ for vascularity.

I'm gonna need to give my body a break after this. Lol
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>>39374427
How can i know he lifted for 7 years fuck face. Everything is about genetics, you either got it or don't. Just kill yourself if you don't have it

Are my genetics just this good, or are you just all fucked in the genetic pool? I am seriously underestimating myself. All my life i was underestimating my powers, but coming to this forum was a really big reality check for me. I feel the alpha power rising more and more

I lifted like 4 years for this, naturally. I was just fucking around the first 3 years. No diet, nothing. The last year i only a cut for the first time. carb cycling

Was 18 years old when i joined the gym and was 22 years old when i started cycling.

Fuck, thinking about this i might be super human or something. Can it be, can i be this gifted?

For the ones who still doubt me; it's just a HUGE compliment for me. My dick is only getting harder
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>>39374453
Have heard all kind of shit when drinking hard on liver harsh orals. I rather play the safe game
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>>39374475
But, catpiss, shouldn't there be some insanely lean, bulking, muscular man in his weight class instead of that blob according to anon?

>>39374427
>>39374453
You people make me sad.
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>>39374480
How is clen? i hear terrible stories about it.
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>>39374427
Wait a minute how does that even fucking make sense in your head? I could put on a lean 10 lbs in 10 weeks easily if I wanted to, I literally did it last year, and more than 3 lbs of it would be muscle. Are you fucking brain dead?
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>>39374503
>How is clen? i hear terrible stories about it.

I fuckin refuse to believe that u're real mast.
Anyway it's shit, stay away from clen
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>>39374503
clen is shitty as far as sides go, from my experience at least the damage it can do is much greater than it's closest competitor, DNP

>>39374496
in every weight class below the fattyweight (and potentially 105kg) class, yes

there's no sense in carrying around 20lbs of fat in the 90kg class, when you could be leaner and have 10lbs more of muscle on that same frame.
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>>39374473
3rd guy won world's, 4th and 5th guy won 66kg and 74kg last year

most top lifters in the 93kg class or lower will be lean
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help gf doesn't approve over /fraud/ usage

wat do
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>>39374496
I didn't say that dan green was fat, stop putting words in my mouth

>there's no sense in carrying around 20lbs of fat in the 90kg class, when you could be leaner and have 10lbs more of muscle on that same frame.
this
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>>39374508
This means you didnt really lift for 7 years you fucking scrawny manlet.
There is a limit even for roiders,if you have god tier genetics you only can add 2-3 lbs muscle in a year with perfect diet and exercise.
Do a little bit research you brainless fuck.
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>>39374525
Tell her she's selfish
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>>39374459
>Im slim and svelte
We ain't talking about your penis today Jerry

>>39374473
Iirc in the olympics the lightweights can reach up to 3x bw lifts whilst the heavy weights are struggling with 2x.

Pretty massive difference if you ask me
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>>39374515
I hope you mean closest competitor to sides not to benefits
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>>39374531
>only 2-3 lbs muscle.
for someone lifted for 5-6 years naturally btw.
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>>39374525
How about end the relationship. Bimbo is great example what happens to man if woman is in control
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>>39374508
if that's true, you've been lifting like a fucking retard
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>>39374513
I don't even know myself, so how can you know me without knowing how to be without knowing myself

>>39374515
Clen, t3 and dnp are too scary for me. Eca is the farthest i would go regarding to cutting agents
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>>39374547
well, secondary to DNP, clen is the best fast burner I can think of. Outside of a steeper deficit, upping cardio, etc. Factoring in only drugs, clen is DNP's closest competitor.

Even though said closeness is essentially a 10,000 mile gap. DNP is by far the most effective, and as long as you don't react negatively (so 90% of the people who use it) it's relatively safe. Especially at low dosages.

Clen's sides can cause internal issues far worse than anything DNP will do, even if the only outside factor you see are some shakes and potential nausea.

>dem dere heart palpations

that being said, clen is usually favored in bodybuilding because it's direct interaction with fat burning. DNP relates to the hydrolization of fats closely enough that it causes great amounts of water retention, and if you've never used it pre-competition before, then it can be hard to dial in the time it takes for water to clear pre-comp, although there are a lot of protocols for this

>>39374577
>t3

fuck that, not going to permafuck my thyroid. I won't touch clen or t3, DNP is fine for me personally

but if ECA works for you, run with what's working, for YOU. Nothing wrong with not choosing the "harsher" substances if you find yourself progressing just fine with a simple alternative such as ECA.
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>>39374531
That's it boys, I'm taking the b8. I don't even think it is b8, but I don't want to believe some anon on this board is fucking stupid enough to think that just because you lift weights you're perma bulking as much as you can on your frame.

I WONDER IF THERE'S A REASON I PURPOSELY KEPT MY WEIGHT LOW, YOU STUPID FUCKING FAGGOT. A 5"8' frame could look good at 160-170 if you're actually ripped as fuck all over and have worked that weight for years, how does me working 130-145 ever since high school mean I don't lift? Are you so fucking delusional and fat that you can't imagine people maintain their weight for things like weight classes and sports? You can't possibly fathom why you wouldn't stuff pizza and shit into your mouth until you've bulked out as much as possible all over your disgusting frame?

Kys and lurk moar faggot.

>>39374560

Don't fucking start with me.
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>>39374577
you're the great man, dont get me wrong(if you're real mast). But sometimes, you ask questions which I would think you would be the last one to ask
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>>39374593
>Are you so fucking delusional and fat that you can't imagine people maintain their weight for things like weight classes and sports?
if there is anyone that doesn't understand weight classes it is you lmao
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>>39374513
I accidentally took 200 mcg for my first time.

I was shaking like a mother fucker the entire day.

Never again. I'm glad I'm alive.

Lower dosages under 120 mcg and I'm good.

I get high BP and shakiness for sure. I'm taking this week off of it and I'll see if I go back on, I will only do so if I need to get leaner.
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Can someone post that story from that anon that used clen and puked etc. Was really funny story

>>39374590
Yeah, i recently started a new eca stack with dmaa. I was behind my desk at work, my heart was going like crazy, i felt it even in my head.

caffeine + efedrine + dmaa + aspirin.. Pretty crazy. But it works imo.

>>39374603
Why can't i ask questions
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>>39374593
You are a fucking retard,literally mean it.
I tried to help you at first but you cant be helped.
You didnt mention that you were trying to keep your weight,you also said 'I ADDED 10 LBS Ä°N 10 WEEKS' which isnt possible if you are not an absolute beginner,and you had a 6 years of lifting experience at that point.
Take your lies and leave,dont try to turn this shit around,you fucked up hard.
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Man I'm so fucking suave

>"hey did Ryan find any info on roommates?"
>no you want a third?
>"no you should find a different roommate I can't live with you"
>no he hasn't but that's cool. Looo I have this appt for an apt showing so I gotta go. Let me know if you change your mind
>at the apt complex 45 minutes later
>"hey are you there"
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>>39374644
I've never tried DMAA but I'm interested in it

have you used it as a preworkout before?
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>>39374668
Who are you talking to in this dialogue ?
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>>39374631
>I accidentally took 200 mcg for my first time.

holyfuc. I maxed 120 and I shaked like I had Parkinson's.

>>39374644
You definitely can. I just would think you had more information inside your head. Like I said, don't get me wrong, im not dissing you

>>39374668
Hi bimbo
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>>39374653
Mongoloid. Literal, straight, mongoloid. You're actually probably on the spectrum, aren't you? Not worth any more of my time. This is my last (You) and be thankful I bless your disgusting cockroach existence with it.

Get an athletic base like what I had at fucking 18 years old and try to add 10 lbs leanly over 10 weeks, while strong and lean and having maintained that weight for at least a year. it's easy as shit. People gain a pound a day drinking fucking milk, you literally have to eat at a 500-600 kcal surpluss to make 1 lb a week happen.

How is your puny brain too retarded to understand the possibility of that?

Sorry you're a fat fuck or a spooky skeleton who doesn't understand the word "diet" can mean more than losing weight.

We need a new word for it because stupid doesn't encapsulate what these anons are.
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>>39374679
My ex
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>>39374743
This is your last response because of you realized you fucked up.
You said lean mass, people dont gain lean mass drinking milk,especially if they have a athletic base,because of this means they milked their beginner gains.
Only a real beginner can gain 10 lbs in 10 weeks of lean mass with good genetics,diet,training.
You could just admit that you were wrong,but you are a kid,so I dont expect that from you.
Just keep dont googling this basic shit and defending that retarded arguement like the fucking kid you are.
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>>39374753
Why do you keep being with a unstable,ungrateful bitch man.
You deserve much better.
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>>39374671
I use it, it's fucking awesome. Just make sure to drink lots of water and eat a banana or some taters that day, possibly some taurine because I tend to cramp on it after 2+ hours of working out.

I generally take 60mg of DMAA + 300mg of Caffeine as alone each is meh, but together they are an awesome PWO.
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>>39374826
My gym sessions are usually only around 1hr-1.5hrs (1.5 including prehab, ab work, warmups and such)

i usually eat a couple bananas a day so shouldn't be an issue, I'll try it out, thanks
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>>39374826
Isnt 60mg DMAA hella lot?

Never used
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>>39374869

Eh I would say start out around 15-30 as that is the average dose, I have a decent tolerance so, (also depending on my caffeine tolerance) will take either 2 pills or 4, I've taken up to 7 before and I would not suggest that (15mg DMAA per pill + 150mg caffeine per pill)

I was on Adderall and like prescribed 150mg of vyvanse for multiple years so I handle stimulants very well.
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>>39374817
She's so goofy

>"hey you there"
>"hey you're not blocked"
>at an apartment showing can't talk
>okay well here's a place for you since I owe you and ruined everything

Lol a shitty Craigslist ad for a place that's owned by a known scammer
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>>39374859
Yeah I would start with like a 15-30mg dose + caffeine to your liking and work up from there. It gives me insane energy, it'll also keep you wired for a good 8 hours so plan accordingly.
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>>39374907
>keep you wired for a good 8 hours

well, fuck. Probably not for me then. Usually hit the gym around 8 or 9pm, come home, eat, shitpost a little bit, and pass out
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>>39374896
have tought of hopping off stimulants for like a month? think it would do lots of good since you would get desired effect which less amount of substance
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>>39374525
Give her a good tren dicking. See will forget all about it.
>>39374559
Lmao cold
>>39374671
Let me know if you want some. I've got plenty.
>>39374826
That's a lot. I do 100mg caffeine 30mg DMAA and 25mg ephedrine.
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>>39374918
Actually probably closer 6 hours, but yeah. I usually finally fall asleep at 4am if I take it at 9ish.
I think it's the caffeine more than the DMAA though.
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>>39374941
>shilling intensifying

I'll send ya an email here in a bit

>>39374955
probably with that much caffeine, I usually just have a cup of coffee on my drive to the gym
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>tfw have 30lbs of fat to drop
>barely 3g dnp left
will cut without it then when it get tough do 200mg
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>>39374923
Yeah I do it all the time, I quit taking ADHD meds about 5 years ago. I cycle off it every 4 weeks or so for a week or two.
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>>39374361
By thinking about how beast I am gonna be when this is over

My face is more disgusting than someone who is 600lbs obese. I am not exaggerating.

When I get my face back it is gonna be pure bliss. Like if u were an auchwitz starving prisoner and I got placed infront of a huge ass feast. That is how happy I am going to be CONSTANTLY when yhis shit is done

The depression is by far the worst when I am in eyesight of other people tho especially grills
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>>39374977
You could try like 15mg-30mg of DMAA with your coffee and see if you like it I know you can purchase straight DMAA powder fairly cheap It's bitter af tho.
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>>39374941
Gotta eat big to get big nam sayin?
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>>39374977
It's cheap. Shipping will be more than the stuff probably.
>>39375038
CMON!
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>>39375068
>the cross tattoo on the ass

BURN THE KIKE
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How much fat do you need to take asin with?

I usually wash mine down with about 500ml of whole milk, that enough?
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>>39374707
Dude it was bad and lasted me for way too long.

I literally couldn't even do simple shit like putting my needle through the top vial without several attempts.

Sometimes I look back on things I did and wonder how I didn't die, I need to be careful so I don't get like heart enlargement.
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>>39375084
usually just take mine alongside a tbsp of olive oil
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>>39375084
Not enough bro try instead "washing it down" with 2 cups choclate syrup covered icecream at least
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>>39375097
Smart.
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>>39375085
its ok man, we're humans, we all do mistakes.

also, kek imaging getting needle tru vial with 200 clen shakes
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man i cant figure out if i get gyno.

my nipples, like the very tip of it are puffy, but i dont feel any lump and the nips are not itchy.

yet those puffy nips make me fucking paranoid.

on 250mg test btw, was never fat
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>>39375201
"Put your arm directly up in the air. Feel your nipple (with the other arms hand obviously). If you can't feel anything then it is not gyno. If you do feel a lump in this position then it MAY be gyno. - And try to stop touching them so much, it can make them more sensitive/prone"
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on a scale from 1-10 how retarded is it to ship like 4 vials of test-E to my college dorm?
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>>39375310

Pretty retarded, but that's just because it's a dorm and the people you live with are 18 year old idiots and can, and probably will, fuck you over doing something stupid.
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should I go pharma or otherwise for my first cycle?
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>>39375358
pharma or well reputated ugl vendor
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>>39375201
I actually developed gyno on my right nipple.

Letro took care of it.
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>>39374396
>Picking people from the one weight class where fat is an advantage
Try not to be too retarded and use superheavyweights to prove a stupid point. They have no weight cap and gain an advantage even for pure fat mass

This is currently the world best in 83kg class (IPF so drug tested)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BKw048KDFFH/?hl=en
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>>39374396
>>39375461
This is a classic case in which both parties are right in their own respects.

One is talking about a ratio of relative strength. The other is talking about absolute strength.

Fat adds leverage to lifts but compromises relative strength ratios
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https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

stop it cat-piss
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>>39375528
I see we're already making America great again

god bless
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>>39375528
>>39375549
https://twitter.com/kmscodi/status/796554667748716545?s=09

Meanwhile, the liberals treating other humans with the decency they deserve
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Fuck it I'm jumping on gear.
I've been having a great week (job interviews, got a date, etc) but my slut coworker (who's married and shit) decided she didn't want to sleep with me after making out with me multiple times and sending me nudes. Wanted my friendship more or some shit.

I should be glad I dodged a bullet but I can't help but feel it's because I'm not Chad enough. I can't get it out of my head.

How big do I need to be to get rid of this dysmorphia?
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>>39375666
this makes me want to go out and stab some nigger in the park

back in a bit
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>>39375705
You filthy racist. It's not their fault, the dude surely has more money than them.

Funnily enough the comments actually seem to say that justifying the act.
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>>39375666
Holy fuck I wish some stupid fucker would try this on me
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>>39375705
fuck you. it's okay when there a group of bull shit from whites but all blacks are savages because of one video.

I hope there a race war. all the numales and virgins will die first
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>>39375670
If you really want to be big, try taking some cyanide.
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>>39375729
Thanks man, upvoted for the sick burn
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>>39375719
they only jump elderly white men

>>39375723
>virgins will die first
delete this
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>>39375666
Americans really are one nation under god
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>post my video playlist that covers more or less everything in fitness
>get these replies
>>39375661
>>39375718

some people really are the fucking worst
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started first cycle on tuesday. planning on 250mg test e e5d.

got my first shot tuesday and getting another one tomorrow (so barely 4 days after the first shot) and then every 5 days

any issues with taking the first shot a bit ahead? i wont inject it myself to i have to rely on my doctor to give me one every 5 days meaning i sometimes have to go e4d because of weekends
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>>39375775
Changes basically nothing at all
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>>39375775
how did you get prescribed
what state
how old

is getting roids In nyc easy
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>>39375670
Leave humanity behind anon
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>>39375770
Is that the 3dmj playlist?

I feel like it's good info but too dense to digest through video. Would work better as a "book" webpage or something. So you can skip around easier and learn at your own pace.
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>>39375869
yes and bunch of other videos too
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>>39375851
That's the plan. Starting DNP today to cut to a reasonable level before I start blasting Test
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I got a jar of winstrol pills as a present today but im doing SS do you think it would be a good idea to run a cycle while doing this program?
Its only durable 2 more months
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>>39375891
The pills
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>>39375891
>>39375917
no, retard

actually yeah just go ahead

yolo bro who needs to do research into possibly dangerous compounds
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>>39375891
>>39375917
Would be counterproductive and will more probably than not do more damage than good.

It's something like taking a step forward to then take 2 or 3 steps back.
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>>39375929
>who needs to do research
That's what he's doing here breh

No hate more love
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>>39375917
I mean you could, it's hard on your joints, liver, and is more used to finish a comp or before a competion to get a dry hard look. I mean it's better than natty, but I would just ride the noob gains, figure out how to properly train and eat and then jump on after 2-3 years once you have it down. Otherwise you're just hitting your liver hard and wasting sterons.
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>>39375935
Why is that?
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>>39375943
asking fucking 4chan to do your research for you is beyond retarded actually
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>>39375947
Because it's a very light compound as far as creating mass goes.

You'd be trading all your natural test for something that probably wouldn't do much more for you as a replacement.

So you wouldn't make many gains, and when you come off you'll go through a period where your natural test will take a while to recover where you'd most probably lose a lot more than you gained.

You'd basically end up with less than you started with.
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>>39375964
But wouldnt the strength gains automatically give me more muscle mass?
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>>39375979
yeah thats why u have natties pushing high ass numbers and looking literally like they dont lift. because thats how it works.
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>>39375979
dude stfu, he gave you a perfect explanation as to why this is a retarded idea.

whats wrong with you faggots asking for advice and then denying it.

You will have the testosterone levels of 6 year old and wont gain shit from this.

Get some fucking test and make real gains and just accept it as it is.

If you still want to be a retard, then go ahead and just do it. You wont die.
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>>39375979
As I said, you'll slightly accelerate mass creation. But the hormonal deficit you'll go through later is far larger.

And that's not even taking into account that you've got only around 3 weeks worth of a light compound there.
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>>39376000
I asked a fucking question moterfucker
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>>39376011
kill urself retard, die already and get the fuck out of here
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>>39376011
you asked
he answered
you deny his advice and try to squeeze out a

>m-maybe it will still work!

ACCEPT REAL LIFE, PIN TEST FAGGOT
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>>39376011
take them

take all of them in one go

more pills = more gains
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>>39376028
>more pills = more gains
Well technically that is true I guess lol
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>>39376026
this
>>39375891
>I got a jar of winstrol pills as a present today
more like u spent $200 buying a few underdosed caps of a garbage oral from ur local nigger entrepreneur because u are scared of needles
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>>39376044
I really hope they're not underdosed because those are 5mg pills
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>>39376028
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>>39375825
germany

24 yo 181cm 80kg,perfectly fine blood levels like 8ng/dl test but slightly high estrogen.

literally told my urologist i cant get erections when a girl is pretty,am always tired and will get stuff anyway but prefer to get clean shit from a pharmacy.

instantly prescribed me 6 bottles for 80 euros and takes 5 euros per shot given by his hot as fuck assistant.

2 of my friends tried the same with different docs but got denied. i just lucked out with my doctor i think. he would even prescribe me hgh or 500mg if i wanted to lol but that shits expensive
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Someone bake a nice new loaf of bread pls
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>>39376127
Waiting to hear about the AMAZING gains you get from 8 weeks at 350mg/week
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> half the Teamsters union got shitfaced celebrating Trump's victory and didn't show up for the 4 am shift
> now UPS is mad and today was a package shitstorm, literally swimming in a pile of packages
> they edited my time card and complained to the union about me being late, when I've never been late as I drive a guy that starts 15 minutes before me

UPS can eat a dick.

> Obama's 20% lead over White bitches completely reversed by Trump

Doesn't make sense unless you subscribe to my theory that radical Islam is essentially the culmination of radical feminism. Woman takes off her burka; another woman throws the first stone. Rape is worse than murder thus stone the victim. Etc etc.

White bitch who has been cheated on and entirely campaigns on the woman card, literally advertises herself as a "wife, mother, and grandmother" on twitter instead of say, qualifications to be the leader of the free world... endorsed constantly on all shows that bitches typically get their opinions from... yet they hate her -- because she's another woman and White bitches are vicious cold-hearted killers.

Another interesting thing, Asians were polled to vote for Trump majorly [likely because they're openly racist AF] but ultimately voted for Hilldog.
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>>39376418
How's the Woman after the Trump victory?
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>>39376442

Black slave pretended to be neutral the entire campaign but she was extremely upset when Trump actually won. Some quotes..

> You're made to defend white women and that's who will come for me
> You and the rest of his supporters got exactly what you need to be a deadly force again
> white people got validation
> I'm not safe

She's a bit afraid because everything I've calculated has come to be and I'm projecting the sudden violent rise of the far right. Trump winning is likely our last opportunity to prevent violence in the states, believe it or not. You squelch and mistreat the opposition, call their views invalid, eventually it breaks like it's going to in Germany once again. Syrians are going to be gunned down in the streets in only 2 years based on current shifts.

If you meant Hilldog; she knew she was going to lose a week ago hence why she cancelled the fireworks over NYC. She's likely a tool of the Democrat party and may not even want to win deep down. She'll [go to jail and descend into dementia] and forget all of this in 5 years so it's all good. The Hilldog supporting women in my family could care less, but the Jewish in-laws are extremely butthurt. It's going to be a fun Thanksgiving.
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>>39376508
No I was wondering about he reaction to Trump lol. That sucks that she is flip flopping.
I highly doubt there will be any sort of uprising unless Soros can manage to fund enough unemployed libtards to actually start a real riot. But honestly the military would just shut them down long before the citizens rose up.
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>>39376626

Liberals are cowards. There is zero threat. Gradually, they will begin to support Trump or silence themselves when it becomes clear that the establishment is no longer protecting them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnQNFBHHs6w

This is part of the reason Trump won and why black slave is afraid. If you pay attention, you'll notice one of the niggers robs his car as the others gang up on the old man.

Yet I live in one of America's worst cities and all minorities are afraid of me. Even the black slave who wants the dick 3 times a day is constantly commenting that I look like I want to kill someone and how intimidating I apparently am. They're constantly harassing black slave if I'm not there. Once the black neighbor made the mistake of making an angry hand signal over black slave idling in their undeserved handicap spot as I was walking out. I didn't know what happened yet, but one look at his face as he saw me and he looked like he fucked up real bad and was terribly sorry.

Then there's the nigger that had the audacity to tell black slave that she shouldn't be with me among other things in the nearby Dunkin Donuts. He apparently is constantly there and saw us together a few times, but waited until she was alone to harass her. I'm going to kill that nigger but I haven't seen anyone fitting his description since. Bastard was probably drunk.
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>>39376720
Lmao good stories man. You are off gear?
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How long after a shot of test enanthate do testosterone levels reach their peak?
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>>39376873
steroidcalc.com
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>>39376873
9 years
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>>39376873
http://www.steroidcalc.com
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>>39376834

Yeah I've been off for months since black slave moved in but am intending to start back up anyday now.

Balls have reached full size and production in about 2 months. Just need to get back in the swing of injecting. As a narcoleptic, that involves getting just enough drunk to inject with no PIP but not drunk enough to start sleep walking. Was able to do it with medication but I lost health insurance thanks to Obamacare months ago.

I've actually start sleep walking and then drove a rental car through a crowded street, yes hundreds of pedestrians, and managed to not kill anyone. Woke up to my girlfriend screaming and crying outside the window saying "please give me the keys". If you don't want narcoleptics to drive; tell the government to stop fucking us over. Or at least give us affordable amphetamines. It's barely considered a disability by our administration.
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>>39376886
Im wondering when testosterone itself reaches its peak, not necessarily the ester. I think the two aren't the same.

Anyone know how long it takes the liver to cleave it?
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>>39376926
>I think the two aren't the same.
it literally is

that's why test no ester can be pinned as a preworkout. the cleaving of the ester is the entirety of the "delay"
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>>39376926

Depends on who you ask but, off-hand, I believe it's a matter of 3 hours.

The reason you don't feel the effects immediately is because Testosterone/etc activates 'genetic switches' over time. As far as blood concentration, it's very quick. For feeling the effect; I yield to the bro-scientists who claim ~3 weeks.
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>>39376949
Then why do people pin TNE as a preworkout, or take dbol preworkout, if blood levels have no effect?

>>39376943
It isn't active until the ester gets cut, right?
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>>39376915
What did you do for pct and how long were you on?
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>>39377023
>>39377023
>>39377023
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