/Fraud/ "Steroid General" and social club

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wow, you really showed her

>>39367662

Rename when is ESTP getting breast implants edition

>>39367629
>>39367617

Jerry pls stop. It's not working.

>>39367632
His face makes me so calm and docile, like he's reminding me everything's gonn be okay, just keep on keepin on and be the best person you can. You're awesome and people care about you. Fugg I loved Mr Rogers as a kid, legit cried the day he died.

>>39367662
>and I'm still a virgin

>>39367662
>Legitimately caring about who voted for which retarded corporate shill.

Please, stop. It's over already, your red party beat the blue party! Yaaaay, you did it, go back to business as normal already and start blog posting again you fuck.

>>39367662
wow brooo you're so hardcore, take it easy

>>39367676

pls no.

The meme of girls with cute flat chests getting implants needs to stop.

>>39367686

Oh yeah man you nailed me.

Because I don't care to be social to a fucking ugly fat slime?

Ugly fat people are OK when they are decent people.

If you want to be ugly, fat, and be a degenerate? I have no fucking use for you.

At least a slut that has pink hair and stuff has use. I can hit on her.

This """"woman""" was just human trash

>>39367714
EDGY
D
G
Y

>>39367707
>>39367708
Something tells me we have blue supporters with us tonight

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>BIMBS WILL NEVER LISTEN EDITION

Bimbs...
please.
stahp
we just want whats best for you bimbs

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Repost here

Look how happy she seems to have invited me over. Just spent an hour acting as her agent too.

Glad I said later and bounced I don't need that

>>39367707
Haha you have changed your tune since yesterday.....

>it didn't go my way now Im pretending I don't care

What a cuck

>>39367662
>this is what americlaps actually believe

>>39367736
you /interracial/?

>>39367744
She is and I dig it

>>39367714

she has no idea what your opinion of her, the election, or her opinions on the election are. to her, you probably just came off as manic or friendly, and she probably has no idea that you were trying to be passive aggressive. hence, you didn't actually accomplish anything other than being nice to a person that you don't like because of assumptions you made about their character

kys you autistic neckbeard

>>39367662
thats a guy right?

>>39367736
Imagine hatng that face every day.
Definitely live with her

>>39367714
This is literally as cringy as hardcore leftist blog posting and you can't see how ironic it is. It's hilarious. Let's see if I can convert it to left speak for the lulz

>Oh yeah xir you nailed me.

>I'm a virgin because I don't care to be social to a fucking ugly cis male?

>cis males are OK when they are decent people.

>If you want to be ugly, cis, and a degenerate 4chammer though I have no fucking use for you.

>at least a cis male that is open minded enough to give respect to otherkin has use. I can hit on him.

>This """male""" coming into the gym and making fun of me was just human trash.

It's funny imaging two mentally disabled opposite ends of the political spectrum hating each other with the same exact words for no reason. Kek.

>>39367775
*hate Fucking

>>39367726

>ugly people are people I respect if they are decent people not raving SJWs
>this is "EDGY"

lol

I don't mind ugly fat girls that are decent people. It's the ugly fat SJWs

They are literally useless. Can't fuck them, can't talk to them, they don't pay income tax

All they do is spread SJW filth on tumblr

>>39367749

>kys you autistic neckbeard

Looks like I rustled you a bit anon huh?

You're right, maybe this SJW is too stupid to connect the reasons why I am normal person every other day than the 9th where I'm so fucking happy.

Tbh I shouldn't assume they have brains

perma buttblown natT edition

4 more years

>>39367729
>IMPLYING I SUPPORT THE WAR CRIMINAL DISGUSTING DYEL SHILL OF A WOMAN WHO WAS DEM NOMINEE.

Kys. Most physically fit druggie candidate all the way.

>>39367737
See >>39367795

Also fuck off, I just don't want to see this shit anymore after putting up with it for over a year.

>>39367788
post a pic of your physique.

also here is your 3rd kys

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>>39367729
Haven't we always?

>>39367785
Everyday?
Isnt it normal then?

>>39367819
Sure I'm just fucking livid she's being a birch for no reason

>>39367806
not gonna happen

it's all trump all the time now, cuckboi. better learn to live with it.

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>>39367794
If anons keep acting pic related I'm going to speak my mind.

It's hilarious and entertaining to me desu. Especially people thinking I'm a democrat when in reality I'm as sick of their shitposting as much as the opposite side of the political spectrum.

>>39367839
Gary Johnson how could you do this to me, where was your 5%? Why did you spend all your money on dank instead of dank memes?

I'm so, so sad. Better go prep the bull then, since I'm not gonna parrot mahgawww for the next 8 years.

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>>39367834
Yes this is unprecedented behavior

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Fraud, how do I do a proper bulk?

Pic related is m

5'10
109lbs

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>>39367860

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>>39367855
>sick of shitposting

should we go back to the /fraud/ threads a year ago?

>guys im new and want to run a cycle what do i do
>dont want side effects only a little gear
>also where do i get roids

>2016
>caring about politics
election is over, time to normalize

>>39367869
How about eating

>>39367869
eat and lift

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I'm the guy from a week ago purposely crashing his test.
Tomorrow is the bloodtest at 9 am.

So far I ate around 40g worth of liquorice extract a day for 3 days. Assuming the concentration of glycyrrhiza acid in the extract is ~2%, I ingested around 0.8g glycyrrhiza acid. So far I notice some mind fog and mild depression. Fapped 2 times a day.

Also slept 2 days for 4 hours. Tonight I'll try to pull an all-nighter.

ill report back with results

>>39367736
man why are you leaking all your shit.

you should have never admitted g4p.

did you like your parents finding out about you getting assfucked by men, because of some autistic fat neckbeard troll doxxer on 4chan?

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>>39367736
Looks like a dude

Wtf is up with that eyebrow make up.

>>39367888
for what purpose again?

>>39367888

HOLY FUCK someone actually tried to do this.

mirin hard your dedication, your gonna make it.

yes pleaser report back, i wanna know if that actually worked.

>>39367736
She looks as unpleasant as your descriptions make her sound, bimbo.
What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>39367878
My b anon, I'm sick of political shitposting*

It feels like I'm having dry oats shoved down my throat with a plastic smoothie blender tube and told to enjoy it because everyone else enjoys it.

Don't lie that shit was funny and it still is when it pops up and someone spergs out on it, just like "thoughts on mk-677???"

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>>39367834
>Sure I'm just fucking livid she's being a birch for no reason
>>39367860
Be quiet Jerry. He has a new approach.

It's gonna be different this time.

>>39367896
Prescription, not having to hide needles/vials for people/roommates, traveling legally with gear

>>39367899
It takes around a week for results

>>39367736
Race traitor

>>39367895
She's doing a professional photoshoot ATM just had her makeup done

>>39367892
Pretty sure he told everyone before he started doing it

>>39367736
Full story?

>>39367747
LOL U DIG HER GETTING FUCKED BY JAKE

WTF

FUCKING KEKOLD HOLY SHIT

1ST OF ALL SHE IS UGLY AS SHIT. U ARE A 6'5 SHREDDED GOD AND U WASTE UR LIFE ON THAT THING. 2ND OF ALL U EVEN WATCH HER GET FUCKED BY JAKE AND ENJOY IT

HOLY SHIT HOW CAN SOMEONE BE SUCH A BETA KEK ON FUCKING TRENBOLONE

>>39367941
She had me come down to a photoshoot with her, the photographer got she and I a room. She was lovey all last night until we got to the room and she got into doing her own thing.

I let her do her thing and she's like "you're irritated and being weird". So I started giving her attention and she calls me needy.

This afternoon she invited me on set so I dropped by after meeting a friend for lunch. She kept giving me that look, barely talked to me and didn't touch me. I spent some time calling apts for us and her photographer then texted his buddy saying his buddy owns homes in our town.

She kept giving me pissy looks so I said "hey I'm bored so I'm exploring I'll text later". Bounced.

>>39367923
i am pretty sure u are not gonna get prescribed more than like 150mg of test aka natty levels. aka barely above what u are purposely crashing your test for.

also have fun explaining how you apparently got a prescription for trenbolone and drol and shit

>>39367736
Jesus she has literally no redeeming features

Bimbsies confirmed complete masochist

>>39367973
cuz she is taking the """"""""""""photographers""""""""""" BBC

what the fuck do you think?

>>39367974
you are retarded

>>39367973
goddamn it bimbs

>>39367986
explain

>>39367986
just filter him

>>39367996
because when he travels he want to be able to pin so his test levels won't get low

it is not like you will have trouble to get a boner if you don't inject tren or take adrol for 2 weeks

yoo short question

first cycle got my first shot of test e 250mg about 40 hours ago.

i´m feeling a bit weird. cant get tired even after a 11 hour work day. feeling like the king of the world right now but sore as fuck because of yesterday´s workout.

its impossible for the test to already start working right?

>>39367973
bruh why the fuck do u deal with literal human trash. I'm completely natty/dyel/poor/ugly and my gf is way hotter what the fuck she's literally 6/10>>39367736

>>39368007
that was only a portion of his post

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>>39367958
??? You're still alive???

I thought you were the one talking about legitimately looking into being a cuckold because of how ugly and disgusting you are, YOU SAID THAT ABOUT YOURELF YOU PATHETIC FUCK, how could you possibly even talk about this in context like you have the slightest inkling of weight behind your words?

oh wait that's right, delusional sociopath. Almost forgot.

The only real, self admitted cuckold here is you.

>>39367976
>resting bitch face
>mental problems
>dominitrix
>milky titties

Nope checks out as perfect for bimbo.

5th week of 250mg test e/wk.

already getting bacne, dick skin and a red chest.

im too fucking scared to run accutance, i wanna keep my hair and not be depressed.
WHAT DO

>>39368022
>>The only real, self admitted cuckold here is you.
yea i love obsessing my life over a 3/10 and "dig it" when i act as her agent to find her some BBC to take

>>39368023
the fuck is dick skin?

>>39368031
Lmao she only works with me if she works easy enough to demand when I'm fairly popular

>>39368036
look at your dick

look at the skin on it

>>39368010
no it's totally possible, you're feeling all dem good testosterone gains!

(don't read the following: it's placebo. shouldn't have read that, now I ruined it for you)

>>39368036
look at rich piana, thats dick skin.

its mostly a combination of tanning + acne + reddish skin tint from blood pressure.

I have pale white skin, but the bacne and the red tint from the blood pressure makes my skin look shit and old (aka dick skin).

>>39368031
So wait you're not denying that you looked into being a cuckold and said all that shit about yourself, just for the record?

You couldn't pull a 3/10 as is with your swollen glands all over your body + face and pajeet sweat from dnp. You literally couldn't even start being a cuckold if you tried.

Think about that.

Even the most disgusting, pathetic, dyel, loser tier nu male retards could become a cuckold with ease if they wanted to.

And you're stuck alone because you're too selfish and stupid to see a doctor.

K E K
E
K

>>39368055
Be nice dude

>>39368023
just run low dose accutane
20mg ed

>>39368020
what more is there to explain? obviously he won't bring anything other than what he has prescription for.

Regarding roommates/friends/family, a vial is a vial and a pill is a pill if if they ask why they look different he can just say that they are from another brand

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>>39368059
If morons are gonna throw stones from a glass castle I'll knock it down tripfag or anon, I'm really not in the mood to put up with people being dumbasses today.

Especially mean dumbasses towards people like you for no reason.

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>>39368055
ow shit

>>39368055
>>So wait you're not denying that you looked into being a cuckold and said all that shit about yourself, just for the record?
no i said i was starting to feel like one, cuz my face is inferior aesthetically even to my fat ass 190lb 12 year old brother. like just pure inferiority, cant look girls in the eye anymore i look so fucking deformed

>You couldn't pull a 3/10
there are ugly girls that keep trying to talk to me but it just disgusts me that this is what i've been reduced to. so yea

>And you're stuck alone because you're too selfish and stupid to see a doctor.

i am going in a couple of weeks, when finals are over. i have a 4.0 gpa and don't want to fuck it up to save 1-2 weeks of my face (also haven't been cruising long enough yet to get a normal CBC)

literally can not wait to go, and see what the fuck this is

>>39368073
He's jealous or just bitter with his own situation and needs an outlet. It's fine. I'm angry too.

>>39368070
>>Regarding roommates/friends/family, a vial is a vial and a pill is a pill if if they ask why they look different he can just say that they are from another brand
it's not like ur friends and shit are going to get u arrested though. they will however place the roid stigma upon u and think of u as a super "cheater", whether u have a script or not

>>39368073
you are such a bad poster

>>39368083
not jealous of being a cuck, or bitter at anyone but myself. i dont get mad when i see people enjoying their stupid ass lives, i like seeing happy people, just wish i could be doing that right now too.

but u are a 6'5 greek god. why the hell are u obsessed with a 3/10 psycho that is cucking you and keeps trying to fuck u over, when u could be banging like ph.d super models

>>39368099
because he's mentally ill

get off the tren before it happens to you too

>>39368099
Don't see how I'm a cuck she hasn't fucked anyone but me in months

>>39368086
maybe he attracts a better crowd than you. he will just have to explain that he have tosterone levels of an old man and it causing him to have problem with getting an erection, low energy levels and that he is on TRT which makes him have normals testosterone levels

>>39368101
>>get off the tren before it happens to you too
been off tren for weeks, only on 100 test right now

>>39368102
comedy gold

>>39368103
yeah but that is humiliating, i have the same shit (except erection problems. just had 0 energy, lethargy, 0 gains, 0 alphaness, etc..)

>>39368103
I just tell people its vitamin c fish oil or something. You could always just take the label off the test since nobody knows wtf tren or deca is

>>39368113
So you have no reason you just meme

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>>39368080
Also you never answered how does your mother not realize wtf is going on with your face? You live with your parents, right? That's why you see your little brother regularly when he goes and eats pizza rolls at midnight.

>>39368096
FIlter me. I'm not changing my trip or anon posting any time soon.

am I ordering viagra or cialis?

purely for better sex. lasting longer and shorter refractory periods would be most intended benefits

>>39368113
>yeah but that is humiliating
no

>>39368122
>"i-it is just fish oil bro

>>39368139
Cialis

>>39368145
>it's my creatine pills dawg.

>>39368137
>>Also you never answered how does your mother not realize wtf is going on with your face? You live with your parents, right?
yeah i do. they are the disgusting hideous type. they are all obese and sort of the "body positive" type minus the tumblr part. they watch TV and every time a fit hot girl comes on the screen, my mom is like "wow shes so ugly"

if they dont see a problem with my morbidly obese brother, being fucking disgusting, and being obese themselves, why would they take too much of an issue with my face being swollen

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>>39368154
>>it's my creatine pills dawg.
uhm, yeah sure bro

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>>39368080
>there are ugly girls that keep trying to talk to me
Damn they must be REALLY intimidated by me

>>39368176
wat

>>39368146
why does the girl in OP's pic have such a flat chest?

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>>39368162
Aight, obesity =\= swollen glands in your face and body that appear out of nowhere.

When was the last time you posted any OC besides the first pic you posted? Has this legitimately all been a ruse? Because everything you've said so far has been absolutely brain dead tier retarded but at least believable until that.

I can't imagine a surgeon, much less a mother, not noticing your glands you've been so suicidally depressed about for the last few months and not even saying a word about it.

>>39368201
And how tf do you even hide gear or get it delivered around YOUR MOTHER'S HOUSE but you're more scared of going to a doctor because she'll find out and cut you off? Makes literally no sense unless you're a brain dead retard who doesn't think logically.

There's so many fucking holes in your story just from living with your parents. If you lived alone I wouldn't even question it.

>on dnp
>decided to masturbate
>edged for like 2 hours to excellent porn
>finally decided to let myself cum, shit literally came out like a fuckin geyser
>some of it got on my shirt
>my shirt is now dyed yellow
>I can't get it out

fuck dnp

>>39368201
>>I can't imagine a surgeon, much less a mother, not noticing your glands you've been so suicidally depressed about for the last few months and not even saying a word about it.

they are saying words about it but they are complete and utter imbeciles. she is blaming everything from dairy (...), to artificial sweeteners, to my tooth paste, to wheat, to gluten, to whatever dumb shit you can think of.

also one time she was like "also im just saying but i asked my friend (some kind of doctor i forgot what) and she said that if someone had a swollen face, the first thing she would suspect is STEROIDS". lol. moonface =/= swollen lymph nodes and glands

but she dropped that. u dont know these people and the level of denial they live in every day... like she is literally 180lbs (thought 170 turned out to be 180, at 5'5-5'6) and thinks she looks "beautiful" and gets compliments on her dresses and shit apparently

>>39368171
>:^) airtight son

>>39368228
what is an meme

what is an po box

what is an friends house

i am not confined in a jail cell in my house, i simply live here. it's not hard to hide a few vials LOL wtf

>>39368229
I can't wait for my yellow cumshots.

>>39368229
worse than that, is when you end a DNP run and take off the sheets to wash them. and then realize your mattress is permanently stained yellow from your fucking sweat.

>>39368184
boobjob moneys went to drugs

we at the itty bitty titty committee are pleased with this

>>39368234
Jesus. I see where you get the delusional sociopathic tendencies from, turns out it's genetic!

>>39368248
Aight maybe I'm just jaded from having a mother who actually paid attention to shit around her and raised her children to become at least self sustaining successful degenerates. I couldn't even hide cigarettes and weed behind books on a book shelf without her finding out somehow.

I'm still not totally convinced until you post a newer pic with time stamp. You kept saying you're too tired and lethargic to do it and that's obviously not the case now, so what's stopping you?

>>39368252
yeah, let us see those glands

>>39368276
ok whatever ill do it in a few minutes

>>39368176
This actually happens Jerr.

When I was a skinny dyel I had girls come up to talk to me occasionally.

When I got big they all got shy. Most do that deer in headlights then look away thing, some give that creepy intense look.

You gotta take things in context.

>>39368277
w.e will be interesting to compare them to how it was before anyway, i should be keeping progress pics anyway

>>39368285
>Progrss picks for your glands
Why is fraud so great sometimes

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>>39368176
>>39368283

on the bright side I found I could be as downright grabby without anyone ever being weird about it. If you want chicks to come up to you go to more fucked clubs/bars. I once had two girls come up to me and start trying to rub my dick through my pants while introducing themselves.

You don't actually want any of that but its flattering I guess.

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THREE VERY ANGRY CULTURALLY ENRICHED BASKETBALL AMERICANS ARE TALKING SHIT ABOUT OUR LORD AND SAVIOR DONALD J. TRUMP OUTSIDE OF MY APARTMENT COMPLEX

ROLL TO DECIDE WHAT I BLARE AT THEM

DUBS - TRUMPS SPEECHES AT FULL VOLUME

TRIPS - REPEAT LOOP OF "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN"

QUADS - SCREAM FUCK NIGGERS AND PLAY MAGA THEMESONG

>>39368307

tRolling quads

>>39368307
Rolling before b& for dubs calling.

>>39368307
If dubs you attempt to convince them logically and rationally why Trump is actully the best option for them as well as you

>>39368307
roll

>>39368327
Kek hates you.

Rerolling for trips.

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>>39368332

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>>39368332

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>>39368332
>>39368327
Please KEK

>>39368307
Please quads

Better hurry lads, one of them finished his cigarette and the other two are almost done

>>39368307
LOOP SONG PLAYING ON POL

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>>39368348
Fuck pls kek I'll settle for dubs at this point.

For zyzz.

>>39368307
Is it wrong to roll twice?

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>>39368356
>>39368345
>>39368332
>>39368312

WHY HAS KEK ABANDONED US?

>>39368359
No. anons do it all the time.

>>39368348
Third time's the charm for dubblerones

They've gone inside boys, I'll alert when back out for another cigarette.

>>39368376
Can we roll in advance?

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>>39368376
It just wasn't kek's will mang.

>>39368307
easiest dubs of my life

>>39368307
Jbflgf

>>39368283
Yeah i figured he wasnt bug enough to scare off girls yet

Probably has a. Mass8ve neckbeard and with the dnp weight looks like a dad bod nu male beta provider

>>39368297
No way

>>39368383
nah because idk if they'll even be out again

>>39368388
better luck next time lad

>>39368376
>>39368388
fuck

well whatever have some more

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>>39368399

>>39368398
It seems it wasn't meant to be. Have to preach about The Emperor of Mankind to someone else at a latter occasion

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>>39368399
>he actually waits while watching fit posts on a slow board instead of leaving it to kek's will.

Never gonna make it.

>>39368408
excuse you, I was trained in memetic warfare at trump university

>>39368276
>>I'm still not totally convinced until you post a newer pic with time stamp.
alright i did it just editing it into my ms paint masterpiece

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>>39368444
>O:

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>>39368444
Praise Kek.

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>>39368473
Nice nice nice.

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>>39368319
He's allowed today anon

MAGA

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>>39368483
>Hurrrr look a watermark!
How fucking stupid are you

>>39368502
>anon

Aight.

>>39368507
Nice nice nice.

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>>39368276
there it has ur post number, so u dont say i took someone elses timestamp and posted it here (the november 9th one)

u can faintly see the ACTUAL lining of my face, where my phones camera light shows this little separation between gland and jaw. lol.

>>39368524
if u use ur brain u can figure out that in real life, aka non-perfectly selected lighting, it just looks like one huge ass blob. like i am kim jong un or some shit.

>>39368524
>Not getting your ripped Stan Smith chin in the progress pic
Unfollowed

>>39368184
Genetics

>>39368604
more like trenbolone and a failed mtf transition

ayy

Holy shit what did i miss, alot
It seems, also trump elected what the fuck after all his shit talking

>>39368614
Wot, since when does tren eat away boobs

>>39368637
idk but she got banned one time for like 3 days or some shit, for saying she was gonna run tren

>>39368641
That's.. not true?

Jfc can you at least learn2lurk

>>39368641
Banned for admitting tren use? Allofmywhat.jpeg

>>39368647
His gland cancer has obviously spread to his brain

>>39368646
>>39368647
oh it might have just been a coincidence when u got banned

i think it was nearly the same time u got banned for source talk. people were asking why u got banned and i remember seeing people say that it was cuz u posted about using tren.

thats what they were speculating anyway, but then it turned out u got banned for source talk

>>39368655
Lymphoma, estp. Pls use the medical name for it.

>>39368524
It really hasn't changed at all, has it?

>>39368656
I got banned for 30 days for sauce talk, they were joking about the tren

Stop perpetuating rumors

Does anyone have any tips for reducing the severity of tren night sweats? I sweat profusely at night. I have been smoking weed before bed and this suppresses the night sweats a great deal. But I am having to quit the herbal jew due to work.

Any suggestions?

>>39368660
>>It really hasn't changed at all, has it?
no that's why im going to an old ass specialist, so they can stick tubes and shit into my salivary ducts and scope them out

and run bloodwork for cancer. lel

>>39368669
yeah

do a cycle of DNP at 1g/day and then hop back on the tren, it's about 1/100th of the extremity

I regret not buying waterproof bed sheets before doing this

have to buy a whole new set when this week is over with.

>>39368655
>>39368656
Jesus christ talking about confusing lmao.
Still havent visited the doctor or what

Also; fucking shit i cant sleep and my heart is being an asshole, thanks unstoppable pre workout cancer

>>39368681
>do a cycle of DNP at 1g/day and then hop back on the tren, it's about 1/100th of the extremity

so I've heard.... Yeah, I don't have a use for DNP so I'll never know the misery.

>>39367662
Forgot to tip

Absolute scum 2bh

>>39368691
only tip ur getting is the tip of this dick

>>39368670
I see you're also coming to terms with

>Literally getting cancer from listening to 4chan.

Good for you swollen. I'm glad you're coming around.

See if he can prescribe some chlorpromazine, fluphenazine, or haloperidol, maybe you could clear a twoferone with your visit.

>>39367813
>two porsches

Well no shit

>>39368670
whatever happened to the wisdom teeth

>>39368700
High quality reply

>>39368733
well a while ago i went to the dentist (prob a year or so) and got xrays confirming they are impacted, the bottom 2 are impacted as fuck and almost horizontal.

without mentioning my wisdom teeth, i posted these gland pics on /sci/ and they told me to check my wisdom teeth.

few months after that post, I am getting extreme pain if anything touches either my back right wisdom tooth, or the molar right next to it. so i am starting to think /sci/ was correct.

even if they are though i dont feel like having surgery until finals are over, since i want to maintain my 4.0 (only a couple weeks more at this point)

>>39368754
ALSO. LMFAO. Upon learning that they are severely impacted as FUCK a year ago, I immediately wanted to get them removed.

HOWEVER. These COMPLETE FUCKING IMBECILE """parents""" of mine refused, saying I was only "looking for problems" and to "wait until you have symptoms"... and they didn't let me get them taken out.

>>39368769
Wisdom teeth being fucked actually seems like a probable scenario. Try bringing that up when you go to the doctor.

Also maybe stop waiting since you may have an infection in your face. Those can potentially spread to your brain, and that's no good.

>>39368687
dont lie fatty.

Your secret is safe with us.

>>39368769
You can recover in a day. It's easier than a cold. Choose the laughing gas; it's easier to recover from. And it's fun.

Just get it over with. I went sledding the next day. EZPZ

you guys ever masturbated to your own muscles?
Just happened to me for the 1st time, spontanously, didn't have it planned.

>>39368980
I did vicodin for 5 days. I was g2g after 1.

What would I have to take to get stronk like the powerlifters and strongmen of old? Just a bunch of test and dbol?
Is there a better way to do it nowadays?

>>39369003
Post glute spread

>>39369012

>test x 1g EW
>food x 4000kcal
>workout for 4 months lifting heavy ass weights

>>39369022
>power lifters
>4k calories
Loving Every Laugh

I once saw some fat fuck "powerlifter" post on reddit "I haven't counted a single calorie since I started powerlifting"

Oh yeah, /fraud/ I probably should have asked you guys about this before I started. Last week I began a simple SARMS stack. I went with andarine (15mg twice a day) and ostarine (15mg once per day).

Current stats
5'5
135 lbs
Squat 185
Bench 120
Deadlift 245
OHP 95 (pitiful)

These are all working weight 5x5 except diddlies which is 1x5. Lift 3 to 4 times a week depending on course load. Eating at maintenence standard macro split.

Does all this sound good? anything blatantly wrong?

>>39369017
why do you wanna see that

>>39369049
to spontaneously masturbate to your muscles man
no homo though its spontaneous

Has anyone been to the gym since election
Everyone at mine is hype af

I want to extend my current Trest cycle-- everyone is noticing gains, and I'm only a few days in. Elegy was my source, and he's gone now. Anyone have some recommendations?

>>39369075
What makes u think some beta cuck liberal would ever go to the gym, thr center of "toxic masculinity"

>>39369037
Ur lifts are all pitiful, as is ur SARM garbage and eating maintenance at 135lbs, as well as being 5'5

>>39369068
lmao. you never fapped to your own body?

>>39367662
Gross.

>>39369101
Bro don't even start. Most people I've talked with, online and off, can't give me a solid reason as to why they voted for Trump. It's fucking sad. They can't remember/never knew his stances on issues and just projected whatever they wanted onto MAGA. Trump pulled off the ultimate ruse cruise. This election was a farce.

I have a home gym so I deadlifted until I was dizzy then hit a new PR benching then slammed a high abv beer and watched Bob's Burgers. It's no wonder the average American is fat, ugly, and stupid. We deserve this.

>>39369105
I have a vagina bro. I thought that would be obvious what with SARMS and my stats.

Now is it good or not?

>>39369128
deserve what, a proud ass 6'3 blonde hair blue eyes white man instead of putting some retarded bitch as the public figure to appease a bunch of liberal kids?

Hit a nerve for the first time pinning quads just then. Didn't hurt too much, just made my leg kick. The pin was already deep enough so I just pulled back a millimetre and pushed the plunger anyway. In future, is it better to just pull out and go for a different spot?

>>39369134
idk shit about female lifting

why sarms instead of anavar

>>39369138
Exactly. He's a fat spraytan orange sack of shit but you want him because he's a white man who speaks at a sixth grade level. Massive appeal for those who don't put any effort into actually paying attention but they're MAD AS HELL :DDDDD

It really is impressive.

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>>39369106
of course I have
I think everybody has
NO HOMO

>>39369160
ok and u want muh hugbox grandmommy kkklinton is gonna give me free shit and be my cuddlemommy and make everyone grow rainbows out of their assholes

fuck off

>>39369173
Does your level of dialect when it comes to political discourse ever actually enter your brain for thought before you slam it out on a keyboard or is it just muscle memory at this point?

Also, pothead physically fit grandpa 2016. We got jipped, the elections are rigged, etc etc etc.

>>39369143
Anavar has more masculinizing side effects. SARMS are selectively binding, hence the S in the front. I already have high T for a woman, wide shoulders, deep voice, a few chin hairs, wide jaw, easily build and maintain muscle mass. I'm just trying to recover quickly from a badly broken collarbone. I can't do front squats or let too much weight rest on my collarbone so my OHP is shit. Bones fused at an extreme angle. Lost an inch of length due to it fusing weird. Hurts like a fucking bitch when the bar rests on the inch long "horn" that juts out.

So does anyone here know anything about female stacks or SARMS?

>>39369194
>a few chin hairs
lol

>>39369215
Yeah I also have that genetic defect where more than one hair grows from my follicles or whatever. All of my hair is thick and lush. Double to triple the normal amount of hair on arms legs and head.

It would all suck if I was hideous but I'm banging an 18 year old girl at my college and have the respect of my peers so it's bretty gud. Got anything constructive to say?

I'm fucked up on flu meds and a whiskey right now so sorry if this doesn't make sense.

>>39369022
I have a feeling it's more than that.

>>39369248
>>It would all suck if I was hideous but I'm banging an 18 year old girl at my college
wait what? what happened to being a girl?

>>39369248
>>39369259
lol
>and have the respect of my peers

yeah cuz someone who is actually respected would even be thinking about this, let alone bringing it up

5'5 boychildren are respected by no one, kill yourself midget

>>39369259
Girls fucking girls is bretty gr8 m8. Bi for life.

But really can I increase the amount of ostarine I'm taking after a week or two? I hear it stops your period but I'm more than three weeks away from that so I can't say if it does that or not.

I already have a constant pump, which is great. My forearms and quads look so juicy. It's working.

>>39369285
Broheim I'm one of those older students that ruins the curve on tests but helps other people with labs and studying.

What's your problem? Why are you trying to pick a fight? I don't even know you man. I just wanted advice from someone who knows about SARMS and stacks for women.

>>39369308
cuz for a minute i thought u were a 5'5 manlet pussy ass bitch

>>39367662
>I usually just grunt at her but this time I when she asked me 'How are you' I gave her my biggest fucking smile and said 'FANTASTIC NEVER BEEN BETTER!!!!!!!'


Lmao I did the same to my front desk girls today

>Good Morning! How are y'all doing this fine morning?!

The work environment today was like a tomb, I couldn't believe that people took that shit so damn seriously.

>>39367784
I like you.

>>39369141
>In future, is it better to just pull out and go for a different spot?

You don't need to pull all the way out. Just pull the needly back a bit so it's still in the skin and move up or down as need be, but don't just be swishing around.

>>39369128
>Bro don't even start. Most people I've talked with, online and off, can't give me a solid reason as to why they voted for Trump. It's fucking sad. They can't remember/never knew his stances on issues

This is 99% of all people. Most of the people who voted for Hillary just say "omg Trump is so bad we have to elect her" or "we need to have the first woman president" and that's it. Nobody knows anything because they all default to a halo effect. That's psychology in action. Our minds are not evolutionarily fit for most of the things that happen today.

>>39369349
But it hardly takes any effort to watch the debates. Pour a beer or two and see what their stances actually are. The first debate Trump had some good points, but no mechanism of action, which makes it all garbage. Hillary as well, but at least she stuck to her points and was organized instead of bitching about how unfair it all was in later debates.

But yeah you're mostly right. I've had discussions with people who voted Hillary and could justify why using both Hillary and Trump's stances on important issues. Can't say I've heard the same from Trump supporters, though that's just my anecdote. Don't mean shit.

Doesn't really matter anymore. I'm in Illinois and got my Tam Tam Duckyworth. It'll all be okay. I hope.

Anyway doesn't seem like any of you guys know about SARMS. I'll ask another time when the thread's more active.

JESUS fuck

Working out on a gram of DNP is literally not possible.

I can barely push 8 reps of fucking 1pl8 on this

500meters of rowing had me panting and sweating through my shirt

>>39369422
tfw haven't worked out in almost 2 weeks, because of a combination of injuring my right hand twice and being on 750 dnp

also only on 100 test

goodbye muscle mass

>>39369422
>>39369537
>being this impatient
>not just running a more manageable dose and keep to their routine

250-500mg is so /cozy/ sm h fatties

>>39369557
if i am not dying it is manageable

and i cant keep to my routine anyway because i double fucked my hand so bad. it hurts a lot even to type, and i cant close it completely or rotate it more than half way

Fucked my e2

Feet and ankles hurt

Huge lethargy, no motivation to do anything

Pissing out all the water I drink even though I feel dry

It's not hugely crashed hoping it gets better by tomorrow so I can work out properly. Wml fraud this sucks.

>>39369621
just inject more test

How long should I wait after pct to do another cycle? Or is it based on my bloodworm after?

>>39369557
Eh, I just find that the 250-500 is almost too manageable for me. I just don't want to draw it out. 750 is where it starts to get hot, 1g is brutal but I'll be done in 5 days rather than 2-3 more weeks, so.

>>39369901
Like I said it should be a lot better by tomorrow. If I had TNE or dbol I might add more but I just have basic bitch test e which will take just as long to fix my shit considering I did this with asin

>>39369910
Also found out a supplement I'm taking has t2 in it. Will that effect my pct?

>>39369391
>But it hardly takes any effort to watch the debates.

The problem is the debates are of so little substance that it's hard to get anything meaningful from them. I watched one for about an hour and gleaned nothing from it.

Fact of the matter is that what Trump said, people liked. A bad solution is still a solution, and it's more than Hillary gave.

I'm looking to get into SARMs as well, I have a friend who's on one and will be asking tomorrow.

>>39369931
Only if your guild is truly ready for Naxx progression

>>39369919
Yeah I keep dbol on hand just in case I accidentally into adin ED meme

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>>39369944
> .

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While all my high school 'friends' are obsessing over Hillary losing the election even though we're in Australia, I'm taking the first steps into my /fraud/ life by organising blood tests and bitcoins to buy some test and aromasin.
>feels good knowing I'm gradually outgrowing the snide lefty cunts who acted like their shit didn't stink throughout the last years of high school.

>>39369956
>australia

good luck with customs

not being snide, generally wishing you well in your endeavor

>>39369951
a-at least one understood

>tfw no /fraud/ guild for me to healadin in

>>39369973
Thanks, but I'm ordering domestically.

>>39369947
My dick usually works enough no matter what. Just lucky that way. But damn my brain fucking hates low e2. Constantly have that thing where you just barely can't remember something "on-the-tip-of-your-tongue". Physically have energy but mentally can't make myself do shit. Everything is boring. God this sucks. Can't wait to just go to sleep and wake up (hopefully) feeling better.

>>39369999
Sick get for low e2 feels

Not sure on this one.

>>39369422
i hope thats your warm up because after a year of lifting you should be able to 3 x 5 2pl8 lmao no problem.

but fuck it i still havent hit 300lbs on the bench yet. so im still weak

good stories so far, dont die on dnp becuase we would miss those stories.

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>>39369101
>>39369138
>>39369173

can you die of non-hodgkins lymphoma, sepsis from fucked teeth, or just sheer stupidity already

>>39369194
>>39369308

lgd is the only sarm I vaguely know of for use with chicks, otherwise it's low dose var to dip a toe in and micro-dosed short ester nandrolone or test to get a bit more adventurous, although I've seen some crazy results from chicks with decently low virilization responses to var that can dose it a bit higher than the usual 5-10mg range

>Bones fused at an extreme angle. Lost an inch of length due to it fusing weird. Hurts like a fucking bitch when the bar rests on the inch long "horn" that juts out.

you're going to have to get that surgically fixed in order to actually resolve anything in a meaningful way, probably involving shaving the protruding bit of bone down along with some other shit

>Broheim I'm one of those older students that ruins the curve on tests but helps other people with labs and studying.

welcome to the billy madison club

>>39369391
>I'm in Illinois and got my Tam Tam Duckyworth.

my negro

>>39369943
>Fact of the matter is that what Trump said, people liked. A bad solution is still a solution, and it's more than Hillary gave.

he won the rust belt and deliverance demographics based on this retarded illusion that we can turn back the clock to the 1950s when niggers and women knew their place, manufacturing wasn't automating at an ever-accelerating pace, and coal wasn't murdered in its sleep by the one-two of natural gas and people suddenly realizing that global fucking warming might actually be a thing

waiting for the mayan apocalypse of foreign policy/international relations fallout combined with these regressive fuckheads rolling back wade v roe, the aca, basically every bit of societal progress we've wrung out of the last 8+ years plus god knows what the fuck else since this shit is now stacked top to bottom and the supreme court is going to be turbo-fucked for the next goddamn generation

>>39369914
wat

u are like 3x as fat as i am in that pic u posted, and i thought it was gonna take me a long ass time

how long did/are u running it for

>>39370012
135 is just a warmup, yes. But I left early anyway due to being completely drained of energy after my fucking warmup stretching.

Just going to use these last 5 days as a deload and pick back up, haven't had a proper deload in a while anyway.

Bench is currently 255x7, not sure about 1RM, haven't tested it in a while and won't until ~6 weeks from now.

>>39369943
They had to answer questions and state their opinions. That was the entire point of the debates. How well they could present their stances on issues and tie them into the current debate topic was what you needed to watch for. I watched every debate while doing shit like hw and lifting (cheap ass home gym).

It's true. America is full of fat idiots and people who live in fear. Fuuugggg. Not Saying you're like that at all, it's just a general realization that's hitting me hard.

But yeah mam that's cool, if you can would you report what your friend says tomorrow? I'm especially interested in how SARMS effect women. Most of the information out there is on sights that sell SARMS aka unreliable BS. I read some studies and the few personal reports I could find and they seem to be safe for women. Dosing is an issue though. I don't know how far I can push it before the benefits taper off.

They really do seem to be the best option for women. Ostarine has hardened the fuck out of my muscles at only 15mg a day.

>>39370035
on for 1 week as of today.

500 first four days, 1g ever since. Running for 5 more days, close to 2 weeks total. Keep in mind due to blood accumulation I'll basically be on 250mg for about a week after cessation of use anyway, so I likely won't see the water weight drop for about 2 weeks.

>>39370056
dnp is magic but not that magic lol

12 days isnt gonna get u from obese 18% or whatever u are in that pic to shredded no matter ur dose

>>39370039
a deload every 2 months is pretty good on the joints.

not bad for bench pressing. ill be testing my 1RM by the end of this week for bench, dead, OHP

135lbs for ohp for 10 reps isnt bad right ? i still think its weak as shit but i dont know compared to /fit/

>>39370020
Thanks man. Solid info. Imma keep testing these SARMS since they have the lady androgenic side effects. I haven't heard of any permanent issues.

I just found out Tam Tam lives across the pond from me. Like, there's 2 ponds across the street from my house and she lives by one of the parks around it. Never saw her while on my walks, but I'm sure you can understand why. I want to let her know I've got a massive girl crush on her, goddamn. Going full stalker over here.

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>>39369339
Thanks anon as of right now I like you too.

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>>39370062
I'm down ~10lbs as of weighing in this morning

not even factoring the water weight.

assuming a maximal blood level buildup of 2600mg in bloodstream after 1 more day on 1g, those last 4-5 days my BMR will be ~4,680. I take a short bike ride every day even on DNP just for something since weightlifting is unbearable, so let's say TDEE is ~5,000 just to be cautious in estimate.

Eating at my normal TDEE of ~2700, I'm at about 50% under the new TDEE, or losing roughly 3/4 of a pound of weight per day.

Now; compound that with the activity of DNP in the body at night, and we can assume I likely burn enough to account for about another pound overnight.

This is purely speculation outside of the blood level accumulation; but based on the weight change per day I'm seeing, it's about accurate.

>>39370072
I don't do more than 8 on OHP, granted OHP has always been one of my stronger lifts, but I'm currently sitting at 160 for 7.

>>39368524
What the fuck
Why is this happening to your face and why havent you fixed it
Get your house in order ffs
Dont act like going to the doc is going to fuck up your gpa when you spend all this time on 4chan
I say this out of genuine concern

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>>39370096
>>Now; compound that with the activity of DNP in the body at night, and we can assume I likely burn enough to account for about another pound overnight.


wat

in the wat

>>39370112
i meant being fucked up on whatever drugs they might put me on, and the potential of wisdom teeth surgery (anesthesia, constant bad pain, etc..)

i also wanna cruise for at least 1 month on 100 test before I go (less than 3 weeks more)

>>39370117
You have to remember that dosing consistently throughout the day (4x250mg dosing schedule, morning, mid morning / lunch, dinner, before bed) keeps stable blood levels. You're going to experience a dip at night, but that being said, the DNP is doing something you aren't normally doing at night. Your body is experiencing a 'shutdown' on normal nights, where you're burning much less, and much more inefficiently.

DNP fucks with that. You're constantly burning through your caloric surplus even at night, because of the DNP being present and doing what it does best. Only you aren't eating anything to account for it. Partially why you wake up feeling like death on DNP (of course much of that is dehydration, too)

this is theoretical, my observations from my personal experience. Nothing I can prove, but when it comes to DNP, not much is.

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>>39370012

you are the last goddamn person in here who should be criticizing someone about lifting, you literally crazy fucking crossfit retard

>>39370045
>>39370074

var is still going to be head and shoulders over any sarm, and as long as you aren't retarded about dose titration while being vigilant for virilization sides you'll be fine

>I just found out Tam Tam lives across the pond from me.

one of the nobles I wouldn't mind having a beer or ten with, I watch her braulio castillo smackdown every once in a while just because it makes me intensely happy

god that mirk kirk shit too, I started laughing like a hyena when a friend sent me the link to that debate clip

>>39370096

205 for 8, but I've been doing easy 5s with 245 and heavy triples with 275 for btn push press

>>39370112

sup you paddy bastard

I got kinda big the last couple months

>>39370096
thanks for the info now i know im still weak pound for pound. i dont give a shit about totals if im weak like that. oh well im not that far off.

>>39370153
yeah seems like DNP wont be for me, ill just stick to dieting like i have been. thanks for the info.

>>39370171
HOLY SHIT ITS BRICK
FROM BRICKHOUSE LABS
> hehe xd

>>39370153
u know anything about the meme where you wake up nauseous as FUCK and vomit? Happened to me only once, the day I upped it to 750mg. Woke up moaning like a bitch, nauseous as fuck for ~15 mins then just vomited

>>39370187
>doesn't know the meme :^)
stay little bud

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>>39370171
Brick you got a burner email?

I wanna get in on the brickgramming

>>39370171
sitting @ 185 on the push press, still dialing in what will be challenging for me, haven't done them in fucking ages so readjusting, but very noice

>>39370174
no problemo, DNP isn't the beast I make it out to be if you don't go so high. 500mg is perfectly manageable, even 750 isn't *awful* it just begins to get kinda unbearable. 1g is the real shitty point. oh and 250mg is a breeze, barely any warmth on that, no effect on workouts, etc.

>>39370191
that's just dehydration and probably a bit of hypoglycemia

I know you said you attempt to put off your breakfast as much as possible, but eat something immediately after you wake up

snacking here and there every 30 minutes to an hour on DNP is the way to go. Because you're going to be fucking ravenously hungry regardless of if you eat a big meal or not, so keep yourself satisfied. Keep glucose intake high.

Also, at higher doses, I keep a gatorade / box of candy in my car, backpack, and at work. Pretty much accessible at all times if I feel that I'm going hypo and need sugar desperately. But eating a banana every once in a while while I'm grazing seems to be more than enough.

And of course, don't take your caps on an empty stomach, drink 1-3 (I aim for 3) gallons of water a day on high doses, etc.

>>39370171
You're a bretty great guy. I'll look into anavar for a future cycle. Right now I'm just trying to recover. Can't afford to have the bone shaved and the inch is gone forever. Doc just said "lol you'll be fine unless you're a swimsuit model lol". No solutions or any valuable information from him. As you can imagine it's really fucked up my joints and ligaments. Constant struggle to keep things aligned and in the socket.

Figure I've earned my right to /fraud/. No more fear of the 'var.

>murk kurk
>brouhaha castillo
Bruh. Holy fug I'm dyin' just remembering it.

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post what you're listening to lads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbD1sZj8BbA

it's a comfy night t b q h

made some chilled cocoa

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2 tinder girls are trying to come over because they are buttflustered about Trump victory. California is such a shit hole half my classes were empty cuz of protesters today. I'm about to put GOD BLESS MAGA on my bio so I can be left alone for gym time again.

>>39370171
Sup bbgrill
Good shit
Whatchu on
I got quite a bit smaller lol

>>39368229
Anyone have a cap of the tread where a guy got a blowjob while on dnp

>>39370344
Yeah I do

>>39370388
me too

>>39370264
>250mg is a breeze,
tfw dying on 250

i once tried 500 for two days, had to put an end to that one.

>>39370423
Different people, different tolerances I suppose

>>39370423
AYY LMAO

whatever. even when I first used DNP, 250 was jack shit to me. I felt the heat, but didn't sweat at all more than normal. 500 had me on my ass and angsty as fuck, was almost bed ridden (although I was extremely low test too, so I was lethargic and almost bed-ridden anyway)

o goi this is a spicy memeball

skinfolds are low as fuck, AFTER I binged like 4k+ calories for 2 days straight and had over 8g of sodium (lol) each day, so i am retaining a fuckload of water (up 12lbs in 2 days from water/bloat/food in my ass)

cannot wait to see what i am going to look like at the end of this run.

>>39370456
>Binge like crazy
>But it's ok Im on drugs!

>Your brother binges
>Fucking subhuman fatass retard I hope he dies of diabetes

????????

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>>39370183

thank god that retard went under fairly quickly, straight embarrassment to the brick brand

>>39370202

show me yours I'll show you mine

>>39370323

little trest, little mast, and some cow juice

pr testing week after next, aiming for 435-445 bench, poverty low bar at like 505-535, and since I've been completely neglecting my pull prob like 635 dead

getting everything lined up to bump doses and add some fun shit like gh, maybe try to avoid my joints exploding

>>39370464
try not binging on 750 dnp. the cravings are fucking insane. i have never binged once off of dnp.

it was at the point where i looked at a piece of bread on the table and my eyes rolled into the back of my head with pleasure. it didn't help that there was a fuckload of party food around (for election day)

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>>39370469
eisensquish at gmail

I wanna be big and strong, brick, I really do.

>>39370472
>It's ok when I do it
>It's not ok when others do it
Cognitive dissonance??

>Find out just how much youtube hits Jason Genova has
>All that youtube money
>I'm EVEN fatter and have EVEN less muscle than him
>I push EVEN less weight
>I'm also pretty retarded

Should I just post about how I'm bigger and stronger than MasT, how I have a better body than MasT, how my bf % is lower than NatTs, etc etc and make a youtube channel?

Maybe some comments like this 'Jerry you roid and I'm 100% natural, no caffeine, no PEDs like createne and I have a better physique u merlin????'

Is it that easy?

Seems pretty achievable desu

>>39370472

Haven;t you been on this site long enough to know not to trust fucking anons for medical advice? Yet I see you posted a thread asking for help.

And everyone chewed you out. That's what you get, not medical advice

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>>39370472
i simply don't understand your reasoning anymore.

>>39370464
>>39370489
google DNP binges, it is impossible to avoid once in a while if you run it long enough. it gives u cravings beyond your imagination. you can stuff 3k calories down your throat, and still feel as if u haven't eaten for days, but be about to puke from your stomach being so full.

>also i was just downstairs force feeding myself grilled chicken
>across the table from me, my so-called brother is eating BURGER KING chicken nuggets, on BREAD, with BARBECUE sauce. then he ate leftover cake from yesterday...

makes me sick

>>39370499
didnt post it for help, posted it for lels

>>39370499
Jason is actually somewhat charismatic in a bumbling way. Youre just an average dyel

>>39370505
Why don't you try helping him instead of being self righteous?

My brother used to be obese because of feeder parents too, but I showed him the ropes and he's much better for it. That's your family, man. At least try.

>>39370509

I'm a salesman m8 I can be charismatic when I want to it's do or die much like it is for Jason

When you HAVE to do something to feed yourself you tend to become proficient with it

>>39370505

This sounds so horrible. You're risking your health, it makes you overeat (what's the point of running it then?), you sweat like a pig, you can't workout as hard.

Why do you guys do this to yourselves?

I understood it all until you said that

>google DNP binges, it is impossible to avoid

Come on . Wouldn't it be more pleasant and less painful + easier to just run a cut like a normal person?

>>39370518
Because u do not know how many times i have tried to "help" them all individually, and also all at once. Teaching them to use the food scale (since they are apparently too retarded to work a machine with like 3 buttons). Teaching them how to find caloric values of food online. Explaining how their "exercise" does not justify stuffing their obese asses with obscene amounts of junk food.

They always ask me for help after seeing my progress, and i give it to them. they never last longer than a week, average is probably closer to 4 days.

The last time i tried to ""help"" was around 3-4 weeks ago. They started going to the gym every day, weighing their food, copying what I eat, etc. It didn't last more than a week. By the end of that week, they started bringing home burger king EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY, and eating it. "Oh I ENJOYED that". ok fat bitch, enjoy it, enjoy being disgusting.

I have gone through this at least 15-20 times. They ask for help, I give it, they just stop. My mom says dumb shit like "im just going to do what works for me, this this and this". Yeah it works that is why you are 180lbs. No matter how many times I explain to their obese brains about TDEE and calories in calories out, they fucking refuse to believe it, and tell me otherwise.

They refuse to eat anything but complete shit, and don't have brains. "Oh I only had 400 calories today (it's 5 PM). Yeah I had some chocolate and a pack of chips" i explain about shitty food causing blood sugar spikes and dips, "no i need this or i go hypoglycemic"

That's another thing... whenever they do anything more physical than sitting down, they immediately have to consume sugary junk food and drink soda because they are "hypoglycemic". "OMG I am so hypoglycemic today"
>eats chocolate

The only one that listened was an uncle of mine who actually lost a shitload (like 80lbs or something) and kept it off. Still fat but better than morbidly obese.

I don't care anymore I've tried enough

>>39370469
Didn't he straight up come on and exit scamaz within the week he popped up?

That's why I always wait till the first wave of people get their packs.

>>39370469
Bench on fleek
Push movements tank way harder than pull when you subtract steroids it seems
The fuck is trest even
Gonna grab some var and some test and do a 10-12 week cycle since it seems like my endocrine system is hulk hogan status

>>39370535
>>This sounds so horrible. You're risking your health
nope. roids are 100x as dangerous to long term health, dnp has no long term risks. the only short term risks are if you are braindead

>it makes you overeat (what's the point of running it then?), you sweat like a pig, you can't workout as hard.
my TDEE with 750mg is something retarded like over 4.5k-5k (accurate according to the wieght I am losing), even if I eat 4k calories for 2 days I am still at like a 1k deficit for those days

>Come on . Wouldn't it be more pleasant and less painful + easier to just run a cut like a normal person?

why do in months what you can do in a couple of weeks?

2lbs a week at 1k deficit you are gonna be hungry as shit anyway. might as well use dnp and make it go 5x as fast

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>>39370571
well i dont blame you on that i tried helping a few friends of mine out to just do something instead of nothing in the gym showing them pic related so they have a proper workout routine, talking about dieting and eating healthy and shit like that.

half of them bitch out from the gym because of soreness, while the other half still think there saving money by eating out which is an utter joke when you can learn to eat veggies eatable without having to eat salads for a diet. soups and sauteing with 2tsp of olive oil and the likes.

>>39370591
>neuropathy
Like I mean I'm doing it too, but be fucking real dude, there are definitely possible long term side effects.

Second it 's not like this shit has been in human trials and they know the extent of what it will actually do to you.

Quit kidding yourself, this is why you're in the situation you're in because you fucking treat this shit like it is a game.

I don't even hate you, but you're being so fucking arrogant with things that can seriously mess you up (and fucking have you moron)

>>39370607
>>Like I mean I'm doing it too, but be fucking real dude, there are definitely possible long term side effects.
if u are a fucking retard and don't stop when u get the initial signs of pn, yes it's a long term risk.

like i said, it's a risk if you are completely brain dead. unless you are obese you are not going to be running it long enough at high enough doses to get PN anyway. even if you are, just stop when u get the initial signs.

pn is caused by the dnp slowly degrading the myelin sheathe around your nerves. it takes a long time (depending on dose) and u can see it coming from miles away. if u ignore it for weeks on end and let it get severe, u are fucked. if u have a functioning brain cell, just stop when u notice it and ur fine.

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>>39370574

didn't care enough to actually pay attention, sounds about right though

>>39370581
>Push movements tank way harder than pull when you subtract steroids it seems

I'd already put up 405 once before just cruising, cut a last lil bit before blasting so it might've dipped a tad bit then but it's been pretty steady so far

>The fuck is trest even

like trenbolone and nandrolone had a baby that aromatizes like dbol, most of the good and almost none of the bad

>Gonna grab some var and some test and do a 10-12 week cycle since it seems like my endocrine system is hulk hogan status

phone got nuked, you still got my #? text me or some shit tomorrow

>>39370607
>Second it 's not like this shit has been in human trials and they know the extent of what it will actually do to you.
Except it actually has.

>Da glands
Probably unrelated. Haven't heard of anyone else having that issue from roids et al.... ever.

I mean, he is retarded in general. But youre kinda wrong on these points.

>>39370591

>2lbs a week at 1k deficit you are gonna be hungry as shit anyway. might as well use dnp and make it go 5x as fast

Sorry I know this thread is mostly for you guys to banter with each other and everyone already knows everything fitness related and yada yada yada

But,

My calc said I should be losing 1.3 lbs a week at 600 deficit.

And you're saying stuff that confirms that, 2lbs a week @ 1000.

I am supposed to be cutting at -600, yet even after weighing myself day after day, in the morning, and taking an average, I've lost 12 LBs in 5 weeks, instead of the 6.5Lbs I supposed to.

Does this mean my calc is wrong and I should eat maybe +300,+400 more than I am eating for slower cut?

I heard people say that if I ran MORE than -600 deficit I would lose muscle instead of making noob gains which is why I'm so concerned, I really don't have enough muscle on my frame to lose any.

Should I just proceed as I have been? Eat +300 more?

Also MasT's advice of drinking water non stop and drinking tea has really helped, I don't get hungry since my stomach is always full of water.

Last question: Since I'm losing weight faster than expected, does that mean when it becomes time to bulk, I will need to eat more than I thought, since my TDEE was miscalculated?

How much should I aim to gain on my bulk? 1lb a week? .5? .25?

Thanks man, I just want to make sure I'm doing everything you know, in the most efficient way and the best of my ability

>>39370644
Yeah you're right actually, I'm slightly retarded right now. Google searched it after I posted cause I'm dumb.

I'm 100% wrong
Still he's retarded.

>>39370650
>>I heard people say that if I ran MORE than -600 deficit I would lose muscle instead of making noob gains which is why I'm so concerned, I really don't have enough muscle on my frame to lose any.
uhh maybe if u are not on gear

the extra 5.5 lbs could very easily be water and less food. whenever I go on a harsh cut I instantly lose like 10lbs of water/glycogen, 5.5 sounds realistic to be water

>>39370657
>wahh mommy the mean bullfrog in the autism containment website is using dnp to cut faster than me, he is retarded wahh

Are buying steroids from online websites safe?
What precautions do I need to take before trusting a website if any can be trusted?

Thanks brehs

>>39370666
I'm using it too if you read my post.

Also you aren't mean, you're just misunderstood.

>>39370640
Just sent a msg so u have mine
Fuck its one am
Night night pretty chickens

>>39370674
no we generally buy from offline websites

>>39370674

So there's no source talk on these boards.
Now if you are so inclined I hear there is a nice little place on a certain thing where you post dank memes in replies and upboat them.

>>39370687
So would it be safe to mail something to my address?

>>39370687
after acid washing our private email servers of course

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>>39370650

ignored everything until i say the word bulking.

bulking, your bulking meme should be eating an extra 500 calories in whatever meats you like, pork, chicken legs/thighs and for veggies that have protien it should be, quinoa, lentils, beans, that way your getting more protein like you need to anyways. allways add more protein before carbs since you already get plenty of that to begin with.

dont get fat get swole

>>39370661

Yeah I am natty.

Ok. I will just proceed as normal.

Any idea on this:

> 1lb a week? .5? .25?

I will be cutting for 3-4 more months, about, then I will be doing my first bulk, and I just want to know how much weight to aim to gain a week.

I'm new to all this and I'm concerned that I will gain more fat than is needed, which means I will have to cut longer, which means I won't be making gains for a longer time period.

>>39370650
Are you natty?

The most compelling argument Ive seen for how much fat to lose without sacrificing muscle comes from a study that found your body in most conditions can only release about 25-33 kcal per lb of bodyweight.

So the calc for fastest sustainable weightloss for natties goes

Bodyweight*(%bodyfat)*30 is the maximum deficit per day.

Example

200lbs 15% bf

200*.15*30 = 900

In this example you could cut at 900kcal a day and not lose much muscle tissue at all. Adjust as weight changes. Strength will go down due to less glycogen stores, but will shoot up upon refeed.

Bulking depends on your goals. If le aesthetics, just 200-400kcals a day max. Cut once you're above 15%. Expect mediocre results that tend to taper hard after a year or two

>>39370701
>I will be cutting for 3-4 more months
REEE

THIS IS WHY I DNP

>I'm new to all this and I'm concerned that I will gain more fat than is needed, which means I will have to cut longer, which means I won't be making gains for a longer time period.

see. even a noob can summarize why natty """"bodybuilding"""" is a dank meme

>>39370666
>Mean bullfrog
Hahahahaha holy shit I lost it.

Never change glands guy.

>>39370698

Yeah, thanks man. Do you think I should do +500 or +250 (natty).

I see a lot of people here that say 'Oh, +500 is too much, +250 will get you 99% of the muscle mass and only half the fat'

Or is that a meme and +500 is going to result in significantly more muscle gain?

I was planning on +250 as then I could spend twice as long bulking for the same time cutting.

Bad idea?

>whatever meats you like, pork, chicken legs/thighs and for veggies that have protien it should be, quinoa, lentils, beans, that way your getting more protein like you need to anyways. allways add more protein before carbs since you already get plenty of that to begin with.

I like Chicken breast just because I know how to cook it great and it's cheap as fuck, plus, it makes it easy not to overcook/udnercook since I'm cooking the same fucking meat over and over

If anyone wants suggestions on seasonings just ask, my favorite is the classic lemon juice + red peper flakes + dill + garlic + basil + bay leaves

Comes out really nice.

>>39370725
Don't take advice from him.

Hes a fat schizophrenic

>>39370710

>see. even a noob can summarize why natty """"bodybuilding"""" is a dank meme

Just seems silly for a skinny fat to hop on gear.

I'm making a lot of progress with lifts and everything else and I even look somewhat better (my quads grew a little and I think my glutes may have gotten a little bigger) after only 5 weeks so why hop on gear at this stage

You are forgetting how fast your lifts go up and your body looks better as a beginner

the weaker you are the easier it is to build muscle and strength and I am weak as fuck

>>39370709

Alright, then I'm for sure fine at the 1000-600 (unsure what it is, supposed to be 600) deficit I am at.

I have little muscle on my frame, so I'll still look like shit post cut, for the next couple years at least.

Because of that I'm not in any real rush to hit 12% and start bulking.

Slower is fine. Just worried about losing muscle and not making any noob gains.

Thanks for the help. I feel a lot more secure about my deficit anon