dont feel bad, they are not worth it

I understand why men do it, but I will never understand why they boast about it.

>>39195988
to spread awarness, its one thing having fun with women and a totally another thing being manipulated and taken advantage of.Following the mgtow movement you will never be caught in the latter

>>39196084
>going their own way
>need a full hugbox of other autists to go with them
>>>/r9k/

>>39196139
so you think men should be slaves of women? cause thats how it is for the most part

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>>39195817
Nah, I'll keep on fucking sluts

Enjoy your involuntary celibacy

>>39195817
>I-I don't want a gf or women, i-its 100% my own choice that I don't have a gf, who wants one of those anyway,

>>39196174
ok cptn autismo

>>39195817

Men who can't get girlfriends or even a date justify it by a meme movement

>2: memetic bugaloo

>>39196253
>having fun with women
can you read? all im suggesting is not to get seriously invested in women or even worse tied down with them.You can fuck all the sluts that you want if thats your thing

So. Is mgtow pro children?

>>39196283
whats the benefit of having a close relationship with a women? besides sex that you can get out of the relationship i dont see any other point.Women,on the other hand, have a lot to gain out of it

Real MGTOW don't even call themselves MGTOW. They're too busy not giving a fuck.

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>>39196174

This is why people make fun of MGTOW. You guys think the alternative to your shitty movement is "being a slave" to women or pussy, when the only reason you "go your own way" is that you can't hack it with chicks.

My favorite MGTOWs are the ones who say you can still bang chicks and get married and shit and be MGTOW, because they're just bargaining. That kind of bargaining defeats the purpose of MGTOW and demonstrates a lack of consistency within the ideology.

If you wanna drop out of society or interaction with women that's fine, but don't expect people to treat your movement with credence when you treat other lifestyles with such a shitty perspective.

>>39195817
My lifelong virgin friend just took an oath of celibacy at age 29
Says it's gonna be really hard to give up all those girls

>>39196333
Someone to talk to throughout the day. Kind of a friend/therapist.

>>39196333

I enjoy the companionship you can't find with friends.

A girl can be both my lover and best friend. A guy cannot.

Have fun going out together, look at eachother, do crazy shit, make out and have sex and then go home and fall asleep next to eachother while talking about vague shit. Then wake up, have breakfast or go for a run together.

That would be fucking gay with male friends and uncomfortable with girls you're not attracted to.

>ask girl out for coffee
>she flakes out at the last minute

Should I even bother responding to this bitch? Makes me livid the way girls do this. Just say no from the first

>>39196370
sorry man but thats what family and close friends are for.Only thing a girl can offer is sex, but you can offer her so many more things and once she decides its over you lose half your money

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>>39196347
>lifelong virgin
>Says it's gonna be really hard to give up all those girls

???

>>39196333
Well romantic relationships where nobody is really controlling anyone outside of the bedroom are actually kind of nice, youd know that if you've ever been in one

>>39196389
something might have actually happened,i usually give it 3 tries before i end it.Dont make her feel that special tho and dont come off as desperate (assuming youre early 20s)

>>39196390
But the girl is the close friend.

I don't talk to my family or my male friends about deep emotional stuff. I'm totally open with my girl.

You sound jaded and autistic, but really I'm posting in a MGTOW troll thread on /fit/ of all places.

>>39196415
Okay, so should I just day "another time perhaps" then let her choose?

>>39196406

>not controlling your woman
>2000+16

nerd

Women like it anyways

>>39196427
maybe be more forceful. don't say perhaps, ask when she's available, etc.

>>39196416
a true friend will always be there for you, a girl wont. (and she will probably use anything you told her in the past against you)

>>39196390

COMPLETE PACKAGE.

We all carry smartphones, we don't carry calculators or a dictionary in our pockets because we have one thing that can do both.

>>39196456
???

what a shitty delusion you live. Enjoy your no companionship...

>>39196347
Fucking kek

>>39196456

Jerry?

>3D women are not important?

>>39196465
time will tell, girls are not like they used to be guys.Most of them are not girlfriend/wife material, get that in your head- social media are killing the purity and value of women.If you really believe getting married has any benefit for a man then good luck to you.If she loves you she will stay loyal to you no matter what, you dont need something stupid as marriage holding you down

youre a fucking cuck, end of story

>>39196437
Well, I asked her what she's doing tonight. 90% sure she'll make another sxcuse. I think that seems like an appropriate time to stop texting.

>>39196515
>not depended on women
>cuck

pick one

>>39196535

>being this deluded

>>39196389
Wait a couple of days then ask when shes free because you'd really like to see her etc etc. If she gives you a definete day then all cool but if she gives vauge answers, makes excuses or say she isnt free then dont try any more with her, Just say 'ok cool, text me when your schedule's free" then dont text her, dont have any contact with her unless she initiates it.

This means you win either way because if she intiates contact again (and nods towards a dating you) you ask her when shes free for a date and if she doesnt then you get to move on to another girl without the burden of having to juggle her for no reward in sight.

>>39196522
you should have build up the convo before asking her on a date again.Its much easier for someone to make a excuse to turn you down at of nowhere rather than mid talking.Next time ask her if shes alright, how is her day going, crack a joke or two and say " i heard <<add place>> has great coffee, wanna go try it tomorrow? hope that helps desu at least it does for me (19yo checking in- also im the op of this thread for the idiots thinking just because i follow mgtow im supposed to completely lack interraction with the female gender)

>>39196461
>don't carry calculators or a dictionary in our pockets because we have one thing that can do both

A brain amiright?

>>39196389
>>39196557
Also to add to this. Girls will MAKE time for you if they're into you. If she thinks its okay to just flake out a date you've arranged with her then she obviously doesnt respect your time or see you in the light you want her to.

Flaking out on a date last minute is actually quite disrespectful. I understand why girls do it, because they're nervous, because they find it hard to say no to guys up front etc but that doesnt make it any less disrespectul. If a girl sees that you continue to try with her when she has disrespected you then she will obviously lose a bit of respect from you as a person. Girls like guys who have options. Show her you have options and move on.

Why do young guys <27 date? Why waste the best years of your life dedicating yourself to a girl that will likely leave you? Go out, do what you want, fuck who you want, flirt with who you want, spend your money how you want. 9/10 times your little crush when your young doesn't end up being your wife. So there isn't any point wasting time hoping it works. A chick will leave you when she's young as she has the lions share so don't give them the chance to leave you. Step back into the market when you're older.

>>39196626

DELETE THIS

t. GUY THAT PULLS OUT PHONE TO DO 17 times 14

>>39196587
>>39196659
Thats why I asked her out tonight, because its forcing the issue. I highly doubt the observance of two days' time would make a difference. Even if she rejects me again, which is very likely, then I know not to bother with her again and she knows that if she wants a chance at me she'll have to message first.

Id rather have a higher chance of failure than spend my time wondering about the intentions ans thoughts of some basic bitch with an okay body.

>>39196669
thank you, apparently its too hard for some people to understand.They believe that their 22 yo gf will stay loyal to them and definitely wont bounce from dick to dick when she finds the opportunity while ruining you emotionally and financially in the meantime.

>>39196709
The two days give her a chance to initiate contact on her own/apoligise for flaking or whatever and show you're not just sat there thinking about her and allude to the idea that you might have other girls to see. It probably wont make much difference at this point but it makes more sense when you actually DO have more girls to text and arrange dates with.

what a dead effort this is, but what to expect from people that 90% of them lift to impress women.Hearing that women are not really that worthy and getting a gf has many drawbacks must completely shatter your motivation to lift.Your goal in life should be to improve yourself every day not improve yourself just so you can be liked by a female, get it straight into your heads and stop putting women on a pedestal-all youre doing is feeding on their ego and giving them more options to be even more slutty than they already are.checked

>>39196683
I actually do mental math all the time when driving

>car says 4.7 l/100k?
>I calculate how many k/l. to as many digits as I can manage

>>39196760
>female, get it straight into your heads and stop putting women on a pedestal-all youre doing is feeding on their ego and giving them more options to be even more slutty than they already are
I agree mate. We shame women for being slutty. End of the day its the faults of white knights. A specific group of men choose to believe that women are amazing, can do no wrong, are everything they need in life etc. Women buy into this, its a constant ego stroke from men, who wouldn't. They then inflate their own value. When in reality any normal guy that's fucked a girl and can speak to them knows that they are manipulative and not this angelic gender.

Honestly I agree with a lot of the principles of MGTOW but I'll never endorse it or be apart of that community.

Just read the reddit page and most of the posts sound like they are made by 13 year olds and / or severe autists.

>>39197011
i dont bother reading all that shit , life is simple and i make sure not to over analyze it.All i know is hapiness comes from within the person, nobody can ever make you happy if you dont wanna be happy or arent happy yourself, maybe they will help you hide it but not solve the problem.I made this thread for guys feeling depressed for not having a gf or for the ones who believe that getting a gf will solve all their problems-thats not how it works.All of us should not depend on others *women* to give us value,dont look for validation in the female gender, just be yourself dont pressure yourself to be someone just so you can fit in and be liked.You must find your inner happiness which requires spending some time alone and then you will figure that you dont need anyone to be truly happy.Keep focusing on yourself,training harded,be disciplined do what you enjoy thats what mgtow preaches,at least what i get from it and thats what i try to follow.I will never go off my way to please a girl, never will do something that i dont really want to do and surely wont get tied down with one.My uncle is now paying the price, he was with his current ex wife for a long time, she kept pressuring him to marry, he eventually gave in , got a baby and then she started acting another type of way, way more needy, bitchy ,spending money around ,seeing other dudes which ended with a divorce.Now his life is ruined and he has to pay child support for the next 10+ years.

>>39197180
>training harded
no homo

>>39197225
its really hard to type all that shit on my phone,my bad

>>39196805
Año the more reason to secure a gf or at least someone to be intimate with, so you can more readily resist the biological imperative to not treat women like the dogs they usually become

>>39197268
trust me, if she isnt loyal by defeault no matter what you do will keep her loyal.You can treat her like a princess,love her with all your heart and she will still cheat on you if she feels like it.Its entirely on the person and you can do nothing about it, what you can do is not get seriously attached so it wont hurt as bad in case it happens

>>39197300
So improve yourself so you can net the rare loyal ones?

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>>39195817
I used to be an MGTOW. I still am to some point, but I've realized the community uses advanced jewry to make men unhappy and make them die alone and miserable. God intended men and women to be together. In a non-degenerate way.

>>39197446
i am improving myself but not for the pleasure/approval/liking of others as stated above

>>39196345
t. Chad roleplayer who's never had an LTR

MGTOW is degenerate Jewish filth, but there are endless legitimate reasons to avoid the majority of women.

>>39195817
>oy vey go- err, guy, don't reproduce! MGTOW is the way to go! who cares about the white race? women are shallow anyways!

>>39197480
nice trips,also im not saying men should not be with women but dont get tied down or seriously invested.Honestly you can have a lovely relationship without getting married and losing your freedom.You should be able to walk away when feeling like things are going south without facing serious consequences

>>39197557
enjoy settling down in your 30s with a woman whose prime is long forgotten and she cant attract males like she used to.Luckily for her there are still guys out there that would wife a woman even though she has dicked crazy in the past.I guess we have different views on this topic

>>39196805
I don't know what kind of shit girls you guys hang with, but the three girls I hang with are not this awful. They are pretty degenerate, but have never tried to manipulate, etc. One girl likes to whine but I just tell her to cut her shit and she laughs about it. I think it helps when the guy is also not manipulative or insincere. I am very blunt with them, talk to them like people. Sure I flirt up a storm but I don't pretend.

why do people sign

t. Funny name

Ehats the t for

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>>39195988
>I will never understand why they boast about it
It's reverse psychology for others and an affirmation type thing for themselves.

If they talk themselves up about it, then they're more likely to convince themselves of it. That they don't need women and that they're totally satisfied and all that.

It's reverse psychology in that they're playing the game of women chasing after the guys they know they shouldn't or can't have. The end result being that they either succumb to the women, showing the falsehood of their belief system, or they reject them and get an ego boost like the petty, emotionally immature people that they really are.

In trying to be the polar opposite of a beta orbiter, they wind up going so far into an extreme that it comes full circle (they're still living for girls though in a different manner), and are still just as insane and poorly developed as the orbiters. It's some retarded sense of neo-stoicism that is as hollow and lacking in accomplishment as the other extreme of behavior.

The opposite of crazy is still crazy

>>39197931
the fact that people believe mgtow has no interaction with woman and hates all women is beyond me,i just hate gettin tied down but not feeling loved and having company.get your stuff together

yeah this is insane. respect people (girl or not) but you gotta respect yourself.

>>39197984
>not feeling loved and having company
Which is not solely the other people's fault. This would be something you'd come to realize if you had a healthy social and emotional development.

I'm not saying it's all your fault, but if you've never felt loved in genuine relationships, or you've never been in a relationship that would warrant such love, then the common denominator is you, and you should be seeking professional help instead of going on some asinine intimacy fast

>>39198027
maybe i typed that wrong because english is not my first language but i meant the opposite.Being mgtow doesnt mean i dont like being loved and having company as many people believe.Personally i am 19 yo and i try to socialise as much as possible and i do get along with the opposite gender (hooking up) but thats it.I love having fun with girls but getting invested in women seems like a waste of time in my opinion

>>39197785
I belive it originated on /int/. It's finnish, kind of "with regards X" that you end letter/e-mail.

>>39198147
Thanks anon

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To hell with red pill and mgtow.

I want a fight club to be real.
>now you realize fight club was a male-only movement for frustrated and lost males

I bet all the redpilllers would like to join such thing, even the manginas, that would actually really do some good.

>>39198198
I'd imagine Fight Club is pretty influential among those circles.
For me personally, it was the book that made me question things as a teenager.

>>39198208
Yeah, but now I realize how much it was about gender and masculinity. Like a place when you can act without restrictions of modern "sensitive", "feel good", "feminized", "safe space" society which makes some men feel lost and alienated.

I can understand why some guys who've been burned several times and dicked around by women go "MGTOW". But a lot of its most militant proponents are dudes who couldn't get a chick in the first place.

>>39198096
All you need to say is that you don't want a relationship and want to fuck sluts.

There's no need to attach yourself to some retarded social psuedophilosophy created by a bunch of incels online to say that. When you start doing that you come across unnecessary problems when something happens that conflict with the belief set. You could meet and fuck the greatest girl tomorrow and then fuck yourself up because you've got this mindset that you can't let yourself be with her.

It's part of why the paleo diet is retarded because there are clearly good foods that directly conflict with their food mindset, but they don't eat them because reasons. You're doing the same thing now

>>39197529
There's also endless legitiate reasons why you don't call the majority of guys your friends.
Truly good people aren't that easy to find, but they exist.