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Fat edition

Also

Someone else link previous Im too lazy edition
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I will outlift any single one of you frauds any day any time.
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>>39190330
how the hell do I have back pain at a healthy weight when there's people walking around with that shit tugging at their skeletal systems give my spine a break already
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How can I get on 250mg test cruise?

What is the unnatty limit?
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>>39190360
ok
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>>39190384
>How can I get on 250mg test cruise?
by injecting 250 test a week
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>>39190360
I'm not a fat powerlifter m8, you do you though

>>39190384
what the fuck are you asking
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So assuming my prolactin is sky high on tren, how long would caber take to knock it down?

and anything else that isn't prami/bromo to control it? Cause they are like poison to me
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>>39190449
u have the substance u seek in ur fucking post
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http://i.4cdn.org/gif/1477074584896.webm

Absolutely ded boner
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>>39190464
The fuck was that and what the fuck is she wearing?
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>>39190464
Red Ded Boner
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>>39190506
>The fuck was that
that cummies copypasta thingy

>what the fuck is she wearing
who knows
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>>39190457
No shit sherlock but there obviously aren't only 3 meds that lower prolactin. Curious if anyone has used stuff like remeron etc.
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>>39190384

Some TRT docs will prescribe that high, BUT you need to get regular blood work done, watch your blood pressure AND donate blood every 56 days.

250mg is in general the highest dose you can do long term, but you can't just do it and assume everything will be ok.

Regular blood work, watch your cholesterol and tryglicerides,

Donate blood every 56 days.

Monitor blood pressure.

This dose will not get you that much bigger than you could get naturally.

It will NOT keep you ripped either.

In fact dieting might be harder as you will have a higher appetite.

what you will get however:

Reaching what, would have been your natty limit, will be easy. Your delts will get bigger than they every would have naturally.

You will maintain it easily.

Don't need to push yourself crazy hard in the gym. Typical Bro-Split will do wonders.

Rep range 8-12, 4-5 sets per lift, focus on pump and form.

No need for low rep CNS frying grinders.

Excellent recovery and energy.

Overall feeling over well being and health.

The dose is low enough that you probably will not need an AI, and if you do the dose will be minimal. We are talking 0.25mg Arimidex 2x per week. Like every monday and thursday. - if you even need the AI at all.

Your sex drive should be excellent.
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How bad is PCT depression? I'm kind of scared of getting really depressed or maybe suicidal after a 500mg test cycle
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>>39190548
just cruise m8
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Biggest thing to remember on gear, even when you think there's a problem, there is not.
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>>39190578
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>do my first roid bulk after just using 250 test as trt
>dad comes up to me in front of a few family members
>he's getting big you see? Look, HERE and HERE is getting fucking HUGE
>starts karate chopping my traps and delts
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>thanks tren
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>>39190555
no. I mean, maybe in the future but I got alot going on, I just wanna do my first cycle and then maybe when shit is better for me I'll start crusing
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>>39190599
Dads are so cool I can't wait to be one. Also just imagine a swollen, dripping qt making you dinner and she's always a Fucking whore.
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>>39190644
u ok?
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>>39190669
Way better than I have been
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>>39190714
did you have sex with your ex again
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So this is basically what the trensomnia and tren lethargy is? I sleep maybe 4-6 hours at night then throughout the day I'm sleepy and take several hour long naps of i have the time. Basically I can always sleep, but I can't sleep for long periods of time.

Also I fucking love the dreams.
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>>39190548
any insight on this?
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>>39190757
Not since Tuesday morning.
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>>39190820
Where's Jerry?
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>>39190831
Dude I do not live with him so I do not know.
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>>39190840
I know you don't live with him haha. He made one post last thread. I just wanted to say hi and see how the surgery went.
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I've ran tren multiple times from multiple different sources and never got tren cough. Why is that?
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about to get some mk677 powder

i just weigh it out for 25mg and then i can throw it in some water and slam it right?
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>>39190888
You only cough when you hit veins.
>>39190898
Yes
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>>39190907
thanks nigga
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>>39190330
What other sarm should I pick up besides cardarine and ost for cutting?
Cruising at 200mg btw
Thanks friends
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>>39190919
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what happens if i put a little less benzyl benzoate than reccommended in a homebrew?
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>>39190548
>>39190807
It's bad. Only thing worse than pct depression is legit life threatening illness depression. Most people don't know what that is like so basically pct depression sucks but it's only like 3 months tops if you pct properly so it's not like you are gonna be a guaranteed faggot if you fuck up pct.
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Is it retarded for a 19 year old to B&C?
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>>39191015
>Is it retarded to be as vague as possible about my goals and hope for some kind of savior on this Tibetan rice harvesting forum?
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>>39191015
Implying I wasn't sub 300ng/dl and started BnC at 18
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>>39191035
missed u bby
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>>39190599
>first bulk
>tren

Where do you fucks get this type of money?
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>>39191049
;)
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>>39191035
I have never done any bloods or anything and I just want to progress faster toward actually looking good. I was pretty fat at 6'0 200 but I cut down to 180, my bench is 265, my squat is lmao3plate. Tbh ive never actually done a bulk though.
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How do I get a gf?
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>>39191070
Do your britches fit snugly like they should?
>>39191084
Get confidence and be yourself but less fat. Stop being ugly and believe in yourself.
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>>39191090
>but less fat
How did you know ?
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>>39190360

yeah nah

>>39190363

because you've got the flexibility of a 2x4 and the posture of an osteoporotic grandmother from tallahassee

>>39190464

the hell is wrong with you people

>>39190534
>This dose will not get you that much bigger than you could get naturally.
>Don't need to push yourself crazy hard in the gym. Typical Bro-Split will do wonders.
>No need for low rep CNS frying grinders.
>Arimidex

lol

>>39190548

triptorelin

>>39190578

it helps to be (relatively) mentally stable without any big ugly psychological issues just waiting for the opening to jump out of the closet and gorilla-fuck your brain

>>39190780

pretty much

>>39190854

he's busy being a fatty, perc'd jerry was almost as entertaining as tren jerry

>>39191002

less solubility

>>39191055

if I wasn't using $rape trestolone, this 30+ week odyssey would have ended up running me under $500, and you have no idea the kinds of dosages I'm talking about

>>39191084
>>39191090

get big as shit, give no fucks, be quietly self-assured and confident, and look like the kind of guy that when women see you they think your dick will fill the hole in their soul where their father's affection and approval would be
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>>39191106
Yeah thanks.
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>>39191096
>How did you know ?
>implying we aren't all fat kids deep down inside
>>39191106
>look like the kind of guy that when women see you they think your dick will fill the hole in their soul where their father's affection and approval would be
Never change lmao <3
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>>39191084
>>39191106
tren pretty much

tfw before tren, kissless handholdless virign
after tren, flirting with girls and now getting close to sealin' the deal.
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>>39191141
Lol
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>>39191141
>>getting close
>that guy who can't get laid even on tren
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>>39191106
What benefits would you think youd get cruising on 250mg pw for life?
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>>39191141
What dose of tren will get me a gf?
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>>39191146
Ya I wasn't gonna say anything but =/
>>39191151
Potential cholesterol risks. Definite bone density gains and quality of life gains.
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>>39191169
>>39191146
i'll s-show yyou a-all
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>>39191162
He's meme'ing at you.
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Should I give kids DNP as candy for Halloween? It would help them burn up some of the calories from all the candy
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Does anyone have an experience with Nutrobal (MK-677)?
If so, can you share your experiences?
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>>39191204
This was a joke btw FBI
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>>39191197
I hope you do.
>>39191204
>>39191214
MAGA friend. Love your neighbor.
>>39191208
Mk677 is great. Do you just want to know of that vendor is reputable?
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>>39191204
You'd 100% kill them.

>give their little bodies DNP
>Injest a kilo of simple carbs
>Burn up and drop dead within minute
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>>39191204
give me DNP please
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>>39191117

bruh you know I love you but god damn the shit with your ex frustrates me to no end, and I guarantee you running tren for the better part of a year didn't help things

>>39191138

probably wouldn't know how even if I wanted to

>>39191141

this blast is boiling down most peoples' reactions to me into one of 3 camps

unsettling awareness bordering on fear, awe/envy, or magnetic attraction, all because of sheer physical presence

>>39191151
>>39191169

basically it's down to pure genetics taken from the viewpoint of what is the max dose you can run without having to use much if any ancillaries

while exemestane was shown to reduce triglycerides as well as total cholesterol in its primary therapeutic audience aka post-menopausal women it's not quote as definitive for supraphysiologically enhanced men, and e2 out of whack will fuck with the whole range of shit including bp (with the long-term downstream effects on kidneys from that) and lipids

other stuff like lvh is super, super fucking sketchy and people trying to draw conclusions from that are relying on tenuous at best extrapolation from only tangentially related studies

but yeah bone density, overall bodily health and mobility due to supporting musculature providing better cushioning and protection for all the moving parts, etc
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>>39191240
Tren and her fucked me hard. I feel better off of it, less impulsive.

She fucking irks me too dude god damn.
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>>39191208
>>39191223
I am able to acquire some. I am considering turning in my natty card and this seems like a relatively low risk investment.
What kind of results could I see, and how much should I be taking?
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>>39191240
Only thing I felt like I forgot to mention is blood pressure. But assuming you actually move and are not a fat lazy piece of shit even that should not be a problem on an eternal 250mg/week cruise.
Personally I never go above 150/week but that's just me and my experimentation.
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How do I tell this fat fuck this isn't right

https://mobile.twitter.com/livi_poppleton/status/790382195546304512
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>>39191302
>no one will ever love you, you will only ever attract men who are so desperate for affection and sex they force themselves to associate your sickening body with those things to get past the repulsiveness and the others are those who fetishisize you and literally only see you as a sex object to fulfill their own indulgent fantasies which have nothing to do with making you happy, only theit own desires. Nobody will love you as a person and see you as a prospective partner that they actually want.
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>>39191302
Just outright flame

Or post about how the fat is killing her

Or save your sanity and energy and just ignore it. This is my preferred option. People who make posts like that are fucking crazy and Internet people are unpredictable. Just because they're stupid doesn't mean they wont come after you somehow.
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>>39191302
fuck her in the pus
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>>39191263
If you are 100% natty and want to do baby's first steroid I think you are better off with ostarine/mk2866 or yk11 or lgd4033. Mk677 is boss nigger titties approved but it's an accessory complementary make everything you are doing better drug. It's the icing on the cake not the batter.
I hope that makes sense. I sell high quality tested mk677 and I like to be transparent with people about what it does and what to expect. It is hands down my favorite drug but it is by no means ape shit fuck jacked in a pill.
>>39191302
Who cares? Focus on yourself faggot. Ffs...
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>>39191343
20mg a day is standard isnt it?

How much does a gram cost?
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>>39191343
Where do you sell? I got nootropicsource.com mk and it feels bunk
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>>39191343
Hey cap, welcome back. Do you run mk long term?

Ever notice insulin resistance (or sides related to this) on MK? Been reading some studies and insulin resistance + cortisol increase are the only things stopping me from pulling the trigger.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18981485

>Cortisol levels increased 47 nmol/L (CI, 28 to 71 nmol/L (1.7 microg/dL [CI, 1.0 to 2.6 microg/dL]) in MK-677 recipients (P = 0.020).

>Fasting blood glucose level increased an average of 0.3 mmol/L (5 mg/dL) in the MK-677 group (P = 0.015), and insulin sensitivity decreased.

This is a study where 25mg was given for 2 years.
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>>39191343
I am able to get it at 25mg/ml, so if I decide to go this route should I be ~1ml a day? And if I decide to just do this, will I notice improvements at all, or does it really need to be supplementary? Appreciate your insight.
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It's so weird not being horny. I have no idea what's wrong with me. It's been like this for a while.
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>>39191358
25mg/day is the most studied dose. I take 50-100mg/day for almost two years now.
>>39191378
Ebay and pic related @Gmail
>>39191384
>mk677 long term, cortisol and insulin
I have been running it for a couple of years now and have nothing but positive things to report. My cortisol levels are probably not great because I've been through a lot of personal stress the last few years so I can only say that mk677 DID NOT make my cortisol levels and stress worse. It has only improved my quality of life with NO side effects besides intense hunger immediately after dosing which can be mitigated by ephedrine and caffeine.
>>39191407
Yes at least 1ml/day
>>39191408
How many days since you took e2 meds? I will send more.
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>>39191378
Sorry wrong pic lol
@gmail
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>>39191430
Like 6 weeks but I was doing low test.
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>>39191430
>a couple of years now
Cool. And if you're cruising on test then the cortisol effect would be mitigated.

Main issue I'm trying to wrap my head around is the insulin resistance and blood glucose hikes. Do you measure blood sugar? Have increased fat?

I'm sure insulin resistance isn't a big deal if you eat really clean, which I do.
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>>39191430
How much would I have to spend to run this alongside my next blast at 25mg/day (3-4 months)

So how much does ~3g cost and what's the shelf life?
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>>39191446
you just going to shill memekaysixtaysevan or are you actually going to get me peps
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>>39191446
Did you notice any extra fat gains on mk677 when bulkin?
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>>39191455
I got u bb.
>>39191495
Yes crusing at 150 test for a while now. I do not measure blood sugar but I don't give a fuck because I can fix those type of issues with a strict keto diet should they arise.
>>39191497
I sell 3g shipped US for $105
>>39191502
What peps you want? Only thing I am gonna buy in the near future is cjc1295 and tb500. All my spare cash is going to silver and bullets. No time or money for obscure shit.
>tinfoilhat.jpg
>>39191527
Have not bulked in a long time. Mk677 keeps me from being fat.
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>>39191546
Don't do cjc. Mod grf is better.
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>>39191527
Sup btw dude? Still with the black chick? How's life?
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>>39191271
>Personally I never go above 150/week but that's just me and my experimentation.

it's okay, not everyone can have god-tier aromatization genetics
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>>39191564
True
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>>39191546
>What peps you want?
bpc157 and tb500, and I know I'm not the only one here since ""dat/tom"" "disappeared"

also i agree with bimbs cjc is shit dont waste your money
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>>39191552
How so? I'm no expert besides knowing that all the injectable secretagogues are sloppy and cause gh bleed.
>>39191564
Lmao eat a dick. I don't aromatize at all at 150. I guess I wish I could be higher. Screw you and your CHAD genetics!
>>39191570
Def gonna get tb500 because my skin needs it lol
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>>39191564
>>39191567
But hey this is 150 test 25mg mk677 so I am happy.
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Halloween party on Saturday boys

Going to use cialis for big pumps in my slut costume

How should I prep? Psmf then refeed? Do I refeed on just the Saturday or should I start Friday?
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>>39191576

I love reading about people that run 50mg trest ace and end up having to use like 25mg asin ed with it but still grow tits, meanwhile 6.25 has me good at 450 trest deca and I seriously doubt I'm going to hit 25 even bumping it up to 1050/wk
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>>39191607
Lmao that gif is 100% me deciding if I need to pop some adex or something lol. I use .25mg adex a week usually on a 150mg/week cruise.
But ya I feel you on idiots taking ridiculous doses they don't understand. Tbh I was there once. You gotta get bloodwork and use some common sense.
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>>39190330
Anybody know of anyone that's been busted for ordering the goods with a source located within their country?

either Aus, NZ or USA?
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>>39191589
>Halloween party on Saturday boys
ree
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>>39191693
Yeah a few Aussie's have had knocks at the door and a please explain for domestic packs getting caught
Probably less than 0.1% of packs sent domestically get picked up.
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>>39191706
Maybe you'd get invited to these things if people weren't scared of catching your chinese bathtub aids
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Holy shit manletgains is huge and ripped now
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>>39191748
i see this posted like twice a week and its always fake

probably him posting it himself
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>>39191650

ygm bitchtits

>>39191748
>Holy shit manletgains is huge and ripped now

yeah nah
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Is 20 years old too young to cycle?
Thinking test 500mg/week 12 wks +dbol 60mg 6 wk kickstart cycle?
also will dbol give me tits or can I dodge the gyno?
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>>39191964
That's a lot of dbol being for real
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Can you pin your quads with 1" needles? I got a box of 100 here...

Wiki says stick to 1 and 1/2 inch needles to get into the muscle. Is that necessary ?
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>>39190888
Was it tren e or tren a?
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>>39191968
going off of leddit starter cycle

what would you reccomend?
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>>39191970
recommends or says
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>>39191985
25-40mg

60mg is the only thing to ever give me the "itchy nips".
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>>39192101
ty
Will I still get the gynos if i have ai on hand?
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>>39192173
There's no reason to use dbol if you use ai with it.
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>>39191585
Why is the test so high for 150mg?

Any gut growth from all that igf1? lol
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>>39191009
>>39191106
Should I hop on an antidepressant before I decide to cycle? I say that because I am diagnosed with depression (but I doubt diagnosises from these free clinics anyway and I think that if my life improved I'd be less depressed).

Exercising since my diagnosis has helped but I'd be remiss if I wasn't still a very depressed man. I think Test will help me (I have somewhat lower T) but I'm very scared of crashing.

TL;DR will antidepressants help? I can easily get them.
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>>39191527
Oh hey, it's the exit scammer.
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>>39192179
Why?
What if flare up?
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>>39192213
Dbol converts to methyl oestrogen, the main anabolic pathway for this compound; estrogen is extremely anabolic and ai limits the growth capacity of compounds that operate heavily through estrogen, like dbol or test or nandrolone.

I feel you'd nullify a lot of the benefit taking dbol alongside an ai. A better portion would be run compounds at amounts that allow for linear growth or strength gains without overwhelming sides. Which is why 500 test 20 dbol is a good start.

Take my advice with a grain of salt though, I don't use ai.
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>>39192203

literal last option and only for people with legitimate biologically fucked neurotransmitter levels

while there are a lot of people with legit chemical imbalances that need meds, there are a whole lot more people who just have shitty lives and feel depressed for a good goddamn reason

actively work to un-fuck your life first, using gear or not is a personal decision you're going to have to make and there's no guarantee that test is your silver bullet cure-all, with brain drugs being the last choice
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How do you take AIs? They are in pill form, right? Do you take them daily during a cycle to control your E2?
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>>39192262
You can take them in a schedule that works best for you. Hormones vary wildly from person to person.

Cap takes ai over 150mg test best I can use ten times that amount and still not need ai.
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>>39192235
OK I'll think about it

But I will say some depressed people have outlooks that sabotage themselves and create shitty lives, so it's hard to know which comes first sometimes, I think.
>>
>>39192314
Yeah a big step to that is understanding you aren't your thoughts and recognizing you don't have to own or internalize specific thoughts.
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>>39192173
Be very careful using dbol without an ai. I didn't really need one on 30mgED/500mg test but some people have a lot of trouble with dbol. Definitely have one on hand.
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>>39192320
Perfect example of everyone having different needs when it comes to hormones.

I'd probably listen to this guy over me since I'm not estrogen sensitive.
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>>39192360
might be cuz too much dick
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>>39192403
Lame.

I'm so fucking angry. I even went to deadlift and broke a pr. Still livid.
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>>39192403
please leave

this is a no bully zone
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>>39191546
hey cap, roughly how many mg will a single scoop of the long tiny scoop you packaged with your mk get me?

i cba to make it into a liquid solution and i dont have a high precision scale to weigh it so i've just been taking a single scoop every day
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>>39190506
gloomy bear kigurumi
>>
Thoughts on 24-30 week 250mg test cycle?
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>>39192648
it's called a cruise
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>>39192650
I'm a dyel who just wants to try desu
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>>39192697
It's kind of a for life thing.
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>>39192705
What do you mean? I just don't want to jump in right away blasting and cruising
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>>39192718
I mean what I said.

Really think on it. There is no just "once".
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>>39192723
Why tho

What if I change my mind and don't want to anymore
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>>39192729
I mean that's awesome. Never have I encountered that.
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>>39192744
Well I mean you never know... What if I develop a health issue or something. Anyways I just want to try test and what PCT is like before hopping on forever if so.

Is that a fine length?
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>>39192749
he arleady awnsered your question, 30weeks is cruise not a cycle. also its not about health issues(or ofc it can be)

read this https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/3xybiz/how_steroids_ruined_bodybuilding_for_me_20_week/
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>>39192320
ty anon I'll keep in mind

General advice for first time anybody?
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>>39192764
Why though

I just logically extended the standard 500mg 12-15 weeks cycle to 250mg 24-30 weeks. Does it not work in this manner?
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>>39192805

Because with the price of test you're better off getting bloods and running 400-500 for 24 weeks.

I'll be running 150/500 test/tren for 20+ weeks and add 8 on 4 off of Methylsten at 20mg.
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>>39191055
Live with parents going to uni 100% disposible income going to steroids until I get 6 figure job out of uni.

For me at least.
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>>39192805

And 250, while above natty, is not going to give you the gains 500 would. You could have natty levels close to 200mg/week. You'd be shutdown for a tiny increase.
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>>39191055

>tren
>expensive

If I buy straight up from a local dudebro it'd be 500$ for about a full year at 500-600mg tren-e a week.
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>>39192818
>>39192825
Hmm okay then
>>
I wish you guys could just all come over for a sleepover.
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>>39193027
>sleepover at bimbo's

no thanks camp counsellor
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>>39193027

Not sure if that would fuck me up more or help me desu.
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>>39193036
I have gunpla!
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>>39193045

.....share.

>tfw no Adepta Sororitas army.

I want my damned bolter bitch.
>>
>TFW confirmed low test but not sure what you want to do because your senpai has a history of heart disease

Uhhh...?
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>>39193069

Roid.

Low T is also bad for your heart/cardiovascular system.
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>>39193069
He probably has heart disease from low test. Risk factors for every major killer in the US are exacerbated with low test more so than high.
>>
How likely is it that your natty test production can get shutdown at a 250mg/week cruise? What do you do if your natural production shuts down? And how likely are bitch tits/balding at that dose?
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>>39193098
you shut down no matter the exogenous test dose
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>>39193107
I mean is there a permanent shutdown?
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>>39193107
Factually incorrect. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>39193116
Dont listen to him

Your natural testosterone production will be completely suppressed with 250mg test a week
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>>39193116
No.
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>>39193116
Not permanently however, if you're a healthy male your hpta function will recover slowly even without pct (very slowly)
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>>39193127
So when you come off, your levels will return to normal (for your body)?
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>>39193144
yes, in time, there are even cases of base T levels coming back higher than before
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>>39193144
They should if you're a healthy male, expected decline non withstanding.
>>
What compounds/dosage should I use if I want to use AAS to recomp a skinnyfat type of body which is more on the fatty fat side at 190lb 6'0 22-26% bodyfat (estimated purely by comparison pics)? Honestly just want to be lean but it seems impossible to do naturally for me.
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>>39193157
Are you this spastic? >>39193107

Just stop. please.
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>>39193161
If you can't do it naturally you shouldn't even think about roids.
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>>39193157
>>39193159
What sides could be expected at 250mg/week? Is there an accepted "best" or "most dependable" medication to combat them?

Sorry for all the questions, everywhere I try to read up on them lists a script pad worth of random meds and then goes into the inevitable dad-speech about the dangers of steroids. Hard to find quality beginner advice and faqs
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>>39193107
Thats not true, if you take a dose thats 50% of your natty level, your negative feedback loop will end up reducing your test to about 50% so the exogenous test + natty test more or less matches your normal natty test level.

>>39193202
Very little in my experience. I doubt you anyone needs an AI at that dose, but you may want one on hand.

You may experience increased BP and resting heart rate a little I suppose.
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>>39193225
What would be a good one to have on hand? Would it be something to take regularly as a precaution or only if you notice you need it?
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>>39193181
The implication being that I'm too dumb, lazy, undisciplined, or something else to handle roids responsibly because I can't lean out naturally? I have my reasons. I have some severe fatigue issues which are exacerbated by a low calorie cutting diet, I end up losing strength and just get even softer and weaker leading me to end the cut with binging. I need a little boost to repair my soft, weak body and make up for all the gains I should have gotten in my pubertal years if I was active. I can't fucking go on natty anymore, it's been two years of me spinning my wheels and I don't even have a 2pl8 bench, lower body lifts are even more pathetic. I can't even believe I'm still going with how little results I've gotten. AAS are my last resort, don't even care about my health considering my other option is suicide.
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>>39193270
Nah you just need to reset your insulin sensitivity.
>>
Is clen worth it? I've sitting at 20% bf for a year now and summer is coming.
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>>39193397
Not even.
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>>39193399
It just seems like the key to being a successful "fetniss insta model" is fake tits and clen.

I could do the male version of that easily, right?
>>
Does /fraud/ do SARMS? I read an article the other day praising them for having all the benefits and none of the downsides of roids and wondering if anyone here knew more, seems too good to be true.
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>>39193431
Clen is really shitty. Just eat caffeine and psmf.

I really will never advocate cutting agents if you aren't stepping on a stage. Anyone can hit 8% through alone easy.
>>
>inject 5ccs of 200testC-200bold-50testP once a week on shoulders
>get a minor roid flu for 2 days, every single time

shit sucks. its pharmacom so its on par with pharma gear.
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>>39193525
Pharma bold huh?
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>>39193440
got any guides or resources for psmf?
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>>39193553

mix-1.

no probs using bold500 but my fav supplier dont stock that
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>>39193436
SARMs are great, theyre really good stacked with test actually.

They lower your SHBG which gives you more free test (and more estrogen mind you so be careful of that) at the same dosage after a few weeks.

Thats on top of their own effects. Dont run them like a regular oral, Id recommend running them the entire blast/cycle they dont have severe issues like other orals.

Osta is good for healing and tendons Ive found from experience.

Over all LGD is my favourite.
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>>39193269
Im partial to aromasin.
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>>39193436
They're orals without liver damage, no better, no worse
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>raws shipped
>DNP arrived
>telmis/asin/nolva on the way
>20gMDMA on the way, already have it pre-sold in bulk for $1250
>qtczgf talking about engagements, dreaming of having kids with me

life is C O M F Y
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>>39193838
>20gMDMA
nigga what
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>>39193845
I'm low on cash atm after cutting back my hours at work because the place fucking blows

so I'm flipping it for a quick ~$1,000 to a buddy who parties on campus all the time

Doing him a favor really. Shit sells like candy here, and retarded students pay through the nose for it; as in like, $20/point. So he can make upwards of $4k piecing it out like he does.
>>
Does anyone have tips on frontloading dnp without vomiting like fuck?

What kind of food would be good to take with it just the first time, since I am gonna be frontloading 1.25 grams.

Starting my 500 dnp run today, might up to 750 if I feel like it since I know I can handle 500 already.
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>>39193855
Too bad you're not canadian, you pretty much just need to know a couple guys in central canada and you can sell to 8+ cities easily.
>>
reeeeeeeeee fucking apes

http://fox61.com/2016/10/22/two-teen-girls-arrested-after-62-year-old-man-attacked-in-facebook-video/
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>>39193838
Yep she's going to baby trap you for a green card

Dont forget I told you so
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>>39193939
I found out my sister (not in the pic) is friends with that girl you used to post with a scarred stomach.
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>>39193925
>Ja'Meeka
$20 says her parent(single mom) was trying to name her "Jamaica"

god these fucking things disgust me

>>39193918
yeah, but the price probably isn't as inflated there

I have a great market to begin with, one of the largest campuses in the US

>>39193939
I'm okay with this
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>>39193981
Whoa no way
Im jealous
Get me her digits
I want to #makeherday

>>39193990
Beta baka
Atleast youre not buying a wife I guess
Same difference though
>>
>>39193838
Who the fuck pays that much for mdma, are you in Australia or something? Aren't you scared if the customs intercepting it ?
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>>39194014
>>39193990
>>39193838
Oh I didn't read that
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>>39194002
maybe I'll just trick her in to marrying me before we have the kid

then she'll be able to immigrate anyway

>>39194014
>>39194074
yeah it's stupid here.

people are just fucking dumb, not to mention I'm capping it for him, and most people just sell rock to parachute, caps will allow him to probably sell it at like $25/point.
>>
If you are low bf, does 250 test keep you full, dry, and hard? Obviously it won't on the level of tren, but is it still on the level of the "roid look"?
>>
today i did my first pin ever, 250mg Test E, the sore buttock is pretty annoying i''d say, will it get better the next time i shoot there? Thursday i'm pinning quad.
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>>39193855

We should do business. Before NYE 100g? Or 400 pills?
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>>39193893

Dose more often, few hours apart. I did 400/400/400/400/400/400/400. 3 hours in between until sleep. Finished when I woke up again.
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>>39193283
how
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>>39194403
I'll email you tonight after I'm out of classes
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>>39194421

Stop eating.

Actually, no idea. Bimbo pls tell
>>
pretty sure I got an STD from the last Tinder girl I fucked

I even have weird ass red spots on the two fingers I used to finger her
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>>39194482
worthit?
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>>39194507
definitely not

second time I'm gonna have go see a doctor because of an std scare. it's free here in Canada but waiting 3 hours in the waiting room fucking sucks
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>>39194525
bleh.
gl tho.
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>>39193981
SHES SO QT
give me her number!!!

>>39194124
The old whats good for the goose is good for the gander

>>39194318
Yes
>>
What are your Halloween costumes going to be fraud?

I was thinking of doing some kinda makeup/paper mâché to look like a zombie
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the fuck is this new cancerous captcha shit where you draw around a picture

>>39194583
Too late, skinny Chad is already on it.

Maybe I'll have her steal her clothes and ship em to you so you can put then on your Daki.
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>>39194583
She's got good genetics too except for the cancer she had.
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>>39194673
>good genetics too except for the cancer
>>
When do I start taking ai during my first blast? Some forums say day 1, others say week 4, all appear to be written by illiterate fat retards. Is there a good time or should I just wait for sides?

Running 500 test, using asin
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>>39194638
Damn he is a chad. Thats ok I bet they havent even kissed yet, shes pure!

>>39194673
Her dad is ripped too
Gr8 genetics
>>
>doing chest & back
>some asshat is pulling sumo
>~350lbs
>dropping that shit from waist height
>my boy gets triggered & decides we have to deadlift
>start off with snatch grip
>work up to his weight
>controlling the drop
>pulled a single at 455
>my nigga says lets pull 495
>switched to conventional
>load up 500
>ez
>put on another 25 pounds
>pulled 525 @ 190
thanks test-e
please like rate & subscribe
>>
>>39194318
tfw abdominal subq master race
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I told my mom that I've done some autism tests online and she said that she always suspected that I might be autistic.
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>>39194785
You're in the gym to compete with yourself senpai.
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>>39194804
>not being autistic enough to pass for normal
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>>39194638
CHAD ALWAYS WIN

just like they are supposed to. have you seen one pic Garrett uploaded on his ig where he got friendzoned?
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>>39194846
I do my best
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>>39194789
You pinned 1ml subq? Ow.

>>39194804
>1 point over minimum
>Online meme test

Well aren't you speeshul, get real testing done if you really think you're autistic so you can take in that gubmint disability
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>>39194856
>Garrett uploaded on his ig where he got friendzoned?
¿que?
>>
>>39194880
garrett is this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRCNeBjrFuc
poor guy he probably got bullied for it
>>
>>39194867

>Tits are now an impressive chest

Mirin
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V38psI8WIvI
which are your favorite girls from this video? mine are the second and last one
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>>39194909
Thank god for the mute button.
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>>39194892
Oh Jesus that hurts to watch.

>>39194896
Tfw no chestlet gf
>>
>>39191240

>unsettling awareness bordering on fear, awe/envy

You juiceheads are delusional, almost nobody notices and the ones that do don't give a fuck
>>
>>39194967

>insecure masslet detected
>>
>>39194867
I've done up to 1.2mL without issue. Though usually stick to 0.5mL. I use a 27g and inject slowly though.
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>>39195072
Doesn't that leave a pretty good size welt? Do you only subq test or other compounds too?
>>
>>39191970
yea its enough, just make sure you go all the way in and you are fine.
>>
>>39193073
>>39193080
Fuk

Ok fellas. What about LVH?
>>
How much dbol and how long for 1st cycle should i take?
>>
>>39192789
>>39192360
At 40mg of dbol I've had to down .5mg of adex daily and even that seems to barely be keeping my sides at bay. I added in a small amount of nolva just to be safe

Seriously varies from person to person. I seem to get huge sides from dbol so you might be the same. Always be prepared famalam
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>>39195195
none
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>>39195250
explain
>>39195195
4-5weeks 10-50mg pwo
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>>39194673
that's the girl from that kid breakdancing for her
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Any of you other anons had this happen to you?

Ive been beta for basicly all my life, not full blown but have my moments, autism shit.

Was in a relationship for few years, got a kid. suddonly she dumps my ass. 3months later she's with another guy.

I started doing a high TRT dose inbetween those 3months. and i have never felt this alert and calm. she told me this shit she's with someone else. and im only angry. in the past i would have cried like a bitch. i feel the choking up. but no tears man. doctors told me in normal range when i checked years ago.... im extreme angry but calm and focused as can be...

Wut the fuck happend. is it just placebo? it hasnt been that long ive been on.....
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do you guys actually think that masteron can lower your estrogen? I'm on 1g of mast and I feel like it along with my standard AI dose is making me too dry and lethargic.
>>
>>39195135
I tried tren but it is a cunt and burns. A small amount of tren mixed with test is good, but the amount is too small.

Im usually fine with, small lump if I push over it with my finger.

If i were to inject larger amounts of compounds or tren again Id go back to IM.
>>
>>39195144

Telmisartan.
>>
>>39193027
AltspaceVR seems like an interesting concept, soon enough we'll all be hanging out in VR.
>>
>>39195144
>>39195398
LVH?
>>
>>39195324
Yeah
#makeherday

>>39194638
Give me her clothes already
#makemyday

>>39195360
Where in the normal range?
But yes its placebo
>>
>>39191343
I tried LGD4033 and it made me feel like shit. I was tired as fuck and shutdown in a couple weeks. Maybe its just me but you might need a test booster with it.
>>
>>39195468
>LVH
google it
>>
>>39195468

Athlete's heart
>>
>>39195390
been thinking of adding mast. apparently it binds to the estrogen receptor or aromatise enzyme, I need to do more researche before I could say if it does either
>>
>>39195360
controlled e2 levels

you no longer are a bitch
>>
>>39195472
>shutdown
nope
>>
the fuck are you fucking black niggers telling this guy that 250mg will give him "bone density" and "better qualits of life".
Go back to fucking africa you fucking ugly dumb niggers fucking ree.

If you do 250mg for a long time/very often you can get fucking jacked on it if you have training and diet in check.

Niggers, not even once
>>
>>39195509
Yep?
>>
>>39195531
>being jacked is somehow mutually exclusive to having good bone density and quality of life
what?
>>
>>39195472
low test sides. I find a general slump week 6-7 then picks up after that. I prefer to take it with test though, its quite good that way.
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>>39194702
Pls respond
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>>39195509
>it's the retard that thinks SARMs don't suppress the gonadal axis again
>>
>>39195623
no kickstart = wait for sides
dbol kickstart = day 1
I M O
>>
>>39195623
For me, 1 x 12.5mg after injection along with a fish oil capsule for better absorption
>>
>>39195583
>literally not what i said.

you fgts told some faggot that 250mg will give him good bone density and quality of life, sounding like thats the only thing that you get from 250mg and the gains are not even worth mentioning.
>>
>>39195697
>trying to put words into my mouth
>not realizing there is more than one person on 4chan
>>
>>39195697
Literally
>the hacker 4Chan told me
>>
I haven't done roids or cheated on my gf in 6 months god I hate my life.
>>
Should I take nolva or clomid as pct for first cycle?
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should I brew tren e at 250 or 200mg/ml?

>>39195774
Slut?
>>
>>39190330
If his dong is so far away from his pelvis, does this mean if he lost that weight, he would have 15 inch penor?
>>
>>39195711
i didnt say it was you faggot.
>>
>>39195941
no but you were addressing everyone here as if it was one person, which is just fuckin stupid
>>
>That feel when you send your shekels and dont get a response so you not sure
>>
>>39191106
>lol
Instead of loling just say what's wrong with what he said.
>>
>>39192203
I think getting on antidepressants is a one way road. At least that's what I've heard.
>>
>>39195950
it was 2 experienced trips saying that, brick and cap.
>>
>>39195979
k, so address them
im pretty sure they didnt say that 250 mg/w indefinitely wouldnt give you gains, though
just you misinterpreting
>>
>About to go back for thanksgiving from college
>Been running 50mg dbol and 500mg test
>Gonna have to deal with family telling me I'm getting too big

Shut up mom
>>
>>39196003
prolly
>>
>retard public clown pranks intimidating and scaring off people trend from murica goes over to germany in halloween night
>1 day later, germany decides to ban this shit and make it a crime

this is how good politics work, faggots
>>
>>39196116
Why don't you stop accepting so many migrants then?
>>
>>39196116
>>39196125
kek. Was gonna say get a handle on all those raping Syrians first Germany. Some retards pranking people in clown costumes should be the least of your concerns.
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>>39190330
Guys I'm 185 cruising 250mg test. 2 questions:

1)undecanoate: why is this so hard to find?
2) I'm looking to cut to 175. I'm broke as fuck. I have protein powder for free basically. Does anyone have a meal plan for cutting that I can use?
>>
>>39196169
Eat what you eat now but less, start by cutting out the carbs until you reached your tdee. Lel why would cutting have to be more expensive than maintenance or bulk.
>>
>>39195928
Absolutely.
>>
>>39196320
Shit iirc you got a decent sized dong and if you were shredded it'd probably be hueg
>>
ok so my hairline hasn't changed after blasting test tren and dbol. not even 0.001% (yet).

how beast is this? is this a good sign or can baldness come out of nowhere and hit me later?
>>
>>39196394

It can always happen but its unlikely to be because of mpb.

Short answer, don't worry.
>>
>>39196387
>tfw i have a 7 inch dick but for some reason i store fuckloads of fat on my groin
>if i go above ~12% bf it goes to like 5 inches

when i am lean it looks huge though
>>
>>39196408
>>It can always happen but its unlikely to be because of mpb.
no i mean is this a good sign that i don't have mpb in the first place?

i don't get any shedding at all either
>>
How much of a meme are all these stupid ass supplements on DNP? It gets really fucking disgusting swallowing 18 pills of supplements every day.

What is the actually necessary shit, in your opinion? I would guess Vit C, E, and NAC?
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>>39192183
>Why is the test so high for 150mg?
Maybe my guy overdoses his shit? I dunno
>Any gut growth from all that igf1? lol
Nope. I think the gut growth only occurs with hgh AND insulin. Gh by itself doesn't do the gut thing.
>>39192203
I don't know anything about antidepressants besides my good friend alcohol
>>39192587
USE 4 SCOOPS CMON! seriously though 1 is probably 10mg
>>39193648
Tfw haven't sold a single gram of lgd
>>
>>39196469
Nah go ahead and die from electrolyte imbalance and heart failure.
>>
>>39196501
i am going to VOMIT swallowing 18 pills a day, it is not sustainable. they are fucking huge ass horse pills too and they taste like shit. i just gagged and almost puked just now.

can't do it.
>>
>>39196439

Yes. It's a good sign you're not predisposed to mpb
>>
>When you send money and then the source doesn't reply for over an hour
>>
>>39196520

2 every other hour.

>18 pills

Wtf, not even I do that a day. What are they 50mg?
>>
>>39196521
FUAAAAAAAARK
>>
>>39196528
lol i had it worse.

>while emailing the source for questions regarding purchase, they reply within an hour everytime.
>the day i send the payment and they give me purchase conformation, their website goes offline and they didnt respond to my last email at all.

>1 week later, receive package as ordered

i admit i was scared tho
>>
>>39196439
>is it good i dont have hairloss and shedding?

lol, we'll need real scientists to judge this case
>>
>>39196548
That's me right now

>Responses within mins
>Send money no reply over an hour

Getting sketched out
>>
>>39195470
>Durr hurr hurr PLACEBO
Fuck off ignorant POS

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6345148

>W-what the brain has androgen receptors??
>>
>>39196565
i meant like. could i have no shedding or hair loss at all for now, but then it suddenly starts hitting me and i start losing fuckloads of hair out of nowhere?

or does the fact that these harsh ass steroids aren't fucking up my hair, mean that i am not prone to it, even later on?
>>
>>39196565

PROVE ME WRONG

>EVERYONE WHO ROIDS AGREES WITH ME
>HURRRRRRR
>>
>>39191240
>unsettling awareness bordering on fear, awe/envy, or magnetic attraction, all because of sheer physical presence

they think you're a mentally ill supermutant rod monkey - but that still gets some women wet so I hope you take advantage.
>>
>>39196605
dude everything could happen.

maybe another compound will fuck up your hair, but the ones you have run just didnt.
maybe you havent run them for long enough to actually lose hair.
maybe it would take years on roids to have an effect on your hair.

but general census is, if you run tren and dbol and dont have any hair problems with it then you will be fine.
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>>39195979
>>39196003

I made more gains on 250/wk for a year than most people will ever see, I sure as fuck didn't say that dosage won't get you bigger than the average bear

>>39196169
>1)undecanoate: why is this so hard to find?

really should get around to brewing the rest of this test u I have

>>39196581
>hurr let's take anecdotal evidence of test fixing being a beta in some people and say it's definitely the case here despite not knowing the important background details of either group

dumb as shit
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>>39194967
>>39196638

oh hey I didn't even notice these two little gay babies, hi there
>>
>>39196653
fuck yes dude so happy about this, thanks. ran tren for around 5-6 months total so far, at dosages ranging from 500 to 860 tren e. dbol at 50mg for 30 days (ran out lol).

i am paranoid as fuck about it and have pictures from before i ever used gear, up close zoomed in pics where you can see each hair follicle, and its exactly the fucking same

FUCK YES
>>
>>39196657
>NO EFFECT YOU CANT PROVE IN VIVO THERE IS EFFECT DIRECTLY FROM TEST SO THEREFORE ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS IS PLACEBO
Fucking retarded, literally as bad as the people who claim roid rage. It's just in the opposite direction.

Androgens modify the brain and behavior. Can we determine how they do exactly? No. Does that mean anything that changes is LMAO PLACEBO? Fuck no.

Stop claiming no effect when you dont know shit, no one knows shit. Fuck this triggers my autism rage.
>>
>>39196569

Hey, I work in a legitimate business (I sell laptops) and I do this too.

If you haven't paid me yet, then I will respond in mins to your questions, because I want to close the sale.

Once you pay me, I just pack your order and send it.

I don't feel the need to say 'GOT YOUR MONEY' because you know I got your money, because you sent the money...

No One ever complains about it either.

Should I be emailing people saying 'Thanks got the money?'

Or are you guys just nervous becuase you're buying roids?
>>
>>39196692
>tfw shedding at 250mg test

i hate you
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>>39196723

Seems like you've got some roid rage going there, friendo.
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>>39196725
Well yeah...
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>>39196723

because that's even remotely what I said, not that it's impossible to determine what if any psychological effects supraphysiological testosterone levels evoke in non-androgen deficient populations when you lack basic clinical information to even begin a comparison

you dumb bitch
>>
>>39196752
It's obviously just a placebo. No way for androgens to have any direct effect on behaviour whatsoever.

Not like the brain has androgen receptors or anything.
>>
>>39196798
>Call out jerry for spreading misinformation 'le PLACEBO hehehehe'
>You bitch about how WE CAN'T KNOW FOR SURE
>I reiterate that calling every-single-mental-effect a placebo is just retarded

>THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAAAAAIIIIID

You're arguing against a strawman.

Androgens effect the brain. Not everything is a placebo. That's it.
>>
Been lifting for 3 years and want to run a basic test cycle. Where can I get test/pct? Not natty, have done dnp several times.
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>>39196848
>Not natty, have done dnp several times.
>>
>>39196751
How do you tell if you're shedding? Maybe I am but just dont notice

I keep shampooing my hair and running my hands through it and nothing is coming out . If I was shedding it would be falling out when I do that right
>>
>>39196187
True. I wasn't really comparing. I was just trying to limit the discussion to cheaper alternatives.

>>39196657

Pls gief all of test-u
>>
>>39196866
No you. Pls tell me w2c test
>>
is it normal to lose a lot of hair (read, fuckton) when you start doing finasteride?

im losing so much fucking hair from washing my head in the sink i feel like i wake up bald in 2 weeks
>>
>>39196952
your fina is winny
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>>39196870

pic related, thats how i know.

and thats from washing my head just once for 5 minutes.
>>
Ok wtf

No response 2 hours
>>
>>39197017
nah it's an update bug. sometimes u have to refresh page
>>
new ONE

>>39197115
>>39197115


>>39197115


>>39197115
>>39197115
>>
>>39197101
I don't think that's what it is...
>>
>>39196840
>most people dont notice anything
>one guy notices something
>SEE THE BRAIN HAS ANDROGEN RECEPTORS SO ROID RAGE IS REAL
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