Do you count carbs and fat? If the macro ratio doesn't matter

>>38919885
Enjoy being fat

>>38919885
Growing muscle, recovering and making gains isn't just about eating protein. You need carbs for muscle growth, fats for hormone synthesis and vitamin absorption amongst many other things. A simple 50:35:15 is a good beginner IIFYM. Put as much work Intk your diet and recovery as your workout. Don't half ass this shit if you're serious

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>>38919885
Well I just failed Nofap

>>38920403
With leucine supplements and lifers intaking a high amount of protein powders and animal proteins per meal, are carbs really necessary for muscle gains though?

Seems like keep fats above 20% then do whatever the fuck with carbs and fats of protein is high. Obviously things change of protein is just moderate

>>38920403
"Many diets have ideal percentages/”macronutrient ratios” as a large component of their philosophy. Your body doesn't care about ratios, it cares how much protein you are getting irrespective of total calories. A lot of talk is made about carbs vs fats. First of all, the topic is less important than most think, secondly, it largely varies from person to person" - The fucking sticky

>>38920381
You are actually retarded.

>>38920423
>hurr counting carbs doesn't matter so long as I get enough protein!
>durr I think I'll have another slice of cake since carbs don't matter!
Why are you so fat, OP?
>herp derp I'm bulking!

Just admit you're just another fatass looking for excuses to not change anything so you can eat all the shit food you crave so much and we'll be good.

>>38920423
The argument will be made that insulin will move fatty acids and will spark muscle protein synthesis. But high amounts of leucine will do the same just for a much shorter period of time

There is value in ratios but it depends on the diet. But most people will not notice any differences on a standard diet.

for most people, carbs are noticeably more useful for recovery and performance than fats. take around 1g of fat per kg of bw and fill the rest with carbs.
>>38920418
...why do you think leucine supplements or quality proteins mitigate the need for carbs? sure, you can use protons for energy too, but its not as optimal.
>>38920445
oh you posted this just as i was sending my stuff
carbs + leucine yields more MPS than leucine alone

>>38920438
>Reading comprehension

>>38920456
>deep denial about his dietary choices
Stay fat

>>38919885
Faggot, if you aren't counting EVERYTHING then you're just deluding yourself. Stay fat, faggot, and enjoy your NO GAINS because you're violently retarded when it comes to nutrition. /fit/ isn't for the two-digit IQ crowd, maybe you're better off on >>>/b/ (or >>>/trash/).

Now GTFO. You're shitting up the board.

>>38920487
See>>38920423
Read the fucking sticky.

>>38920487

>Having this much not fun lifting

Pick one

>>38919885
This pic is not as cute as I was expecting it to be.

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>>38920693
DELETE THIS