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>>38914802
>steroids
LOL, fags

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>tfw got drunk and stoned to negate tren feels

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>>38914802

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is a 6 month hgh cycle worth it yay nay?

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If you dont have low test but decide to cycle anyways will your original natty test levels come back after a cycle once you pct etc?

>>38915032
Lol, normie

>>38914802
Posted in last thread but I'll post here as well, what syringes should I get for test injections? I've heard 25 guage is good but looking for other opinions.

>>38915529

21 or 23 for drawing
23 or 25 for injecting.

25 will hurt less, but 23 doesn't really hurt anyway.

Any bigger for drawing and you risk damaging the vial plug.

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https://youtu.be/XEmfKfIPdqw?t=203
That fucking reaction

when will it be my turn for aesthetics

>>38915445
yes m8, it's not uncommon that some people's test comes back even higher after a cycle and pct

>>38915543
Ah ok thanks

>>38915298
saved

>>38915758
tfw ordered my tren, aesthetics is coming

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check in for bimbo

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>>38915995
godspeed brother

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>>38915995
many ppl regret not getting enough mass b4 tren

just sayin'

>>38915543
what do you do in that case if that happens?
im using 20 gauge for drawing.

>>38915529
i know a lot of people will disagree with me on this, but i think you should draw with 25+ needles. (you said syringes but i assume you mean needles)

why? because pinning with 27 (thats what i use) reduces scar tissue by a lot, which is a major concern in long term AAS use.

apart from having a smooth af injection and basically no PIP afterwards (PIP can be very bad) you do your muscle a favor by preventing too much scar tissue

>>38916018
wtf, write something you faggots or this bread will be archived.

for example you can answer this faggot >>38916018 because i wanna know too

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Hows everybody's bulking season going?

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>1 inch is too short bro!
>if you wanna pin quads it gotta be longer bro!

i bhought 1, 5 inch (1 1/2) needles and they are fucking spears.

you telling me to stab myself with that shit?

is there a safe way to roid to get to your body natural limit?

like roiding to archieve max natty status?

>>38917154
Hoes does roiding to "just" your natty limit compared to roiding beyond that, make roiding any more safe?

You are on roids and what you are doing with it doesnt matter, you are still injecting chinese secret powders made out of cattle hormone

>>38917189
I want to reach natty mode, not cirrosis cancer mode.

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>>38917196
>natty max
>injecting hormones
anon, pick one

>>38917217
I just want to bulk to natty status, not die of cirrosis

>>38917196
again you absolute retarded mongoloid, it doesnt matter what you want.
reading comprehension motherfucker

You can roid to acquire natty limit yes, but that wont make roiding less dangerious

But you are an absolute failure anyways if you want to inject illegal substances made by tansanian underground apes directed by cannibal druglord niggers just to reach natty limit

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>>38917244
Why so harsh language senpai
>>38917227
Your risks are almost non extistent when you educate yourself before doing anything illeagal
You're obv interested on roids. Educate urself and go beyond ur natty limit

>>38917282
I guess I could bulk with real food.

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>>38917296
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h03GVRxDKcE watch this video.
People can have their own opinions but I agree 100% with this.

What I am saying. If you want more, start roiding, you wont regret it

What's with the party hats?

>>38917324
are there ways to do it safetly without having cirrosis mode.

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>>38917337
Its 13th year of the day Moot made a childern which is now raped by all of us.
>>38917344
idk desu

>>38917354
I guess I'll go and ask my doctor.
maybe get some prescription.

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>>38917378
I don't think thats how it works. But sure, you can always try

tfw you cut when everyone's bulking. hold me anons

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>>38917407
absolutly disgusting
whats your excuse to cut in winter

>>38917436
everything in that picture looks disgusting. nice try though

is hcg at 2000iu ew for 2 weeks enough before pct? cycle was test p at 12 weeks

ive been pinning quads with a 1 inch needle at 13% bf. have i been fucking wasting oil this whole fucking time??

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>>38917547
what you're trying to say?

I refuse to believe i hit another vein pinning tb500
My leg is just a balloon full of blood thats,what it is

>>38917407
I need to cut and bulk
I look awful
Stupid post surgery bloat and flat

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>>38917555
pic

>>38916755
nice carbs faggot :^)

going ok, went from 73kg to 81kg but stalling a little there
more weight -> more income necessary

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Pretty sure this guy was thinking "how can I tell the world im a cuck, in a subtle way"

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>>38917590
Hows shoehead

>>38917574
No ill be bullied

>>38917636
Good bb how have you been, saw you had surgery or something

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>>38917636
post it

>>38917644
Thats good. Dis you move?

Yeah I finally got my calve cut up
Squats here I come

>>38917681
She got a job at a university and we're moving as soon as we pick a place

>>38917731
Damn thats awesome
Whens she get tenure

>>38917656
You post it

>>38917527
Bump:(

>>38917553
have i not been injecting correctly? i sued to pin glutes but this time around im doing quad cause its way easier for me. im just worried that i have been wasting test.

>>38917093
Don't be a pussy if you're afraid you're gonna go through your quads you might wanna stop skipping leg day.

>>38917773
Post it jerbear!

Also it's a research job. Should be fun.

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>>38917795
How long u've been pinning?

I can pretty confidently say, no, you've not been wasting anything. dw senpai

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>>38917833
seconded
Post is Jerry

>>38915183
Weed is absolutely the only thing that helps me with tren sides. Makes me eat like a monster to for kickass gains.

>>38915529
IMO 23 is just slightly too big for injecting, I always bleed a lot from it. I ordered 26g needles and love them.

>>38915758
This guy, I like this guy.

>>38916018
The size of the needle you DRAW WITH has no fucking impact on your scar tissue. It just reduces drawing time to seconds instead of 1+ minute of waiting for the syringe to fill up.

>>38917093
I use 1 inch for every body part. You don't need to harpoon yourself unless you are a god damn giant inject grams of gear.

>>38917845
for about 4.5 weeks. i feel fine.

is it weird that i felt better/more leveled when i was pinning eod?

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>>38917833
Fine but only for you bb.

You still an electrician?

>>38917093
holy shit lol that is long enough to hit my bone lmao
>do pin chest
>accidently inject tren into heart

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>>38918002
Ur fine then.

You mean you pinned eod the same amount which u would've done in 3 or 4days? ofc, the more you use the more effective it is (based on not knowing what you're injecting nor how much)

>>38918044
Intracardial is the best way to get maximum gains on tren. Has to be tren A at least too.

>>38918105
Plz no one take this seriously.

>>38918084
test p
i was doing 150mg eod
and now im doing 75mg ed and it doesnt feel the same

>>38917527
From what I've read the best way to use it (apart from during the complete cycle) is using it somewhere near the end of a cycle but before PCT. Personally I am thinking of using hcg during weeks 9-12 of my 15 week cycle at 200IU E3D to increase Leydig cell responsiveness. I will then use pct from week 17 to restore the hypothalamic pituitary gonadal axis.

What I understand from your post is that you're now already at week 12 though.. I guess your best bet is to use it for 2 weeks at like 400 IU eod, keeping estro in check with mild AI doses during HCG usage depending on how responsive you are to estro sides, then start PCT 5 days after last HCG injection.

>>38918118
too late

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>>38918123
I am not doctor but I doubt it matters. do w/e makes u feel better

>>38917960
are you retarded.

yes of course the drawing needle has no impact on my scar tissue because im not injecting with it.

thanks for saying the obvious mr sherlock

>>38918165
>>38917960
Yeah senpai the guy was talking about what does he do if he damages the rubber from his test vial I think.

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>>38917093
so should i just buy 1 inch needles now?

why did everyone tell me that 1 inch needles are too short for quads, and now i have these harpoons and i feel like ill scratch my bone with that shit.

should i just stop halph the way, instead of buying new ones?

>>38918178
just re-read, i fucked up

>but i think you should draw with 25+ needles

i meant inject ofc

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>>38918234
you can use them, no need to put them fully in, or u can buy new ones too w/e

>>38918234

You can pit with them fine, surely your quad is at least 2". You can try just going part of the way in, I don't think you have so much fat it'd be subq at 1". It's not too complicated. I think the length is mainly a mental thing. As long as you're in the muscle, not in a nerve or vessel, and watch for scar tissue/abscess you're good.

>>38918131
since im doing test p for 12 weeks how about this....on the last 4 weeks of my cycle ill do 300 iu 3x a week. ill be completing hcg and test p around the same time so ill just need to wait 3 days for test p to leave my system or does hcg take longer to leave?

>>38918274
>>38918261
k then.
im fairly lean, like 12%.
im not an leg-let but my quads arent huge either, more athletic mass.

thanks for output

>>38918283
That sounds fine, just ending last hcg and test P injection on the same day. As for the last part HCG half life is 48-72 hrs, test P half life is 4 days. You wanna stick to 2 weeks to let it clear before you start PCT. Or what did you mean by waiting 3 days for it to clear your system ?

summoning ESTP to read this thread:
>>65580646

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>>38918358
>thanks for output
thats why we're here, have good pins

>>38918363
i was always under the impression you had to wait 3 days for test p and 2 weeks for test e before starting pct

>>38918405
Depends partly on the dosage as well. Test E I'm gonna be running 250mg/w near the end of my cycle that's why I'm waiting only 2 weeks. At 500mg/w test e one should wait 3 weeks before PCT (half life is around 5-7 days). The 2 weeks that's still commonly advised is kinda dated info.
For test P you'd probably still wanna wait around 4 times the half life, which comes down to around 16 days or to round it up 2 weeks.

Of course this is just gonna make a small difference, but if you wanna do it right that's the way to go.

What's the easiest way to draw when the vial is too low to draw straight from the top (i.e., needle is too short)

There's got to be like a video or something for this shit.

>>38918589
You should just hold the vial upside down after sticking the needle in and then pull it up. That's kinda the standard way of doing it.

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>>38918589

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>>38918589

Is 500mg test + anavar a pretty solid first cycle? Is anavar non hepatotoxic enough that i can run it for maybe... 8-10 weeks? I know it'll shut me down, but will i get 'more' shut down if i run it for that long at high doses?

Thanks!!

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>have 4 mates from hometown, good mates from high school catch up all the time, work together, have great banter
>move away for uni
>cut out video games, start test e, become somewhat of a chad
>snapchat them often because they're my bros, mostly of girls im with and what im doing on weekend night
>six months pass

>only one replies properly to my inboxes on facebook
>other three try their hardest to make their replies one word or one emoji
>nobody replies to my snapchats anymore
>feel like i'm improving my life, but i'm getting lonelier

nobody told me trying to actualise your potential would make you a vain lonely guy who gets ignored by everyone, what do i do

>>38918645
You're overthinking it. If you value thrm as friends maybe try and talk to them about their shit? Also realize some people don't do long distance well, so just hit them up when youre in town.

>>38918611
Can you draw a picture or something please?

>>38918629
>>38918640
>Making fun of someone who asks a genuine question
BAKA

>>38918011
holy shit that looks painful

how long did doc say it'd take to recover?

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>>38918679
This gotta be bait.. right?

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>>38918679
>>38918703
Anyway I feel sorry for ya, so I'm just gonna answer seriously anyway

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>>38918589

>>38918645
> constantly bombard them with yourself and your life
> never ask them about them or their life
> "why aren't my friends talking to me?"

That shit only works for slutty women who want attention from men. Reconsider your approach.

>>38918645
Do you share interests anymore?

>>38918701
Been a week 1/2 since the surgery
Just took the staples out
Pretty inflammed today
And i forgot if i took my pill at 12

>>38918723
<3

>>38918730
Y u so mean

>>38918165
"i think you should draw with 25+ needles... why? because pinning with 27 (thats what i use) reduces scar tissue by a lot"

You literally don't even know what you said and you think I am the retarded one.

>>38918679

this prolly b8 but just watch this video https://youtu.be/azF1FoepHuo?t=1m10s

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>>38918797
>There's got to be like a video or something for this shit
have you even tried to search or watch one? he is no mean, its just funny cuz this(>>38918723)
is the abc of pinning.

but hey, atleast now you know.

>>38918011
GROCE.
yes bb I'm still electrician
You a big ceo yet?

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>>38918825
should i actually grab my muscle before i inject?

i actually feel like that would make things easier

>>38918878
who is this semen demon

>>38918878
Don't grab your muscle. Relax. Biggest thing is that you need to get into the habit of aspirating the syringe. I pinned my quads for like the 50th time and felt a weird pinch, when I aspirated it pulled up some blood. Quads are a bit of a minefield, use ventral glutes it is easy as fuck and literally zero pip after a couple weeks.

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whats the common antibiotic used for test infections?

>>38918918
alrighty then.
what if you aspirate and you dont draw clean blood, but some reddish fluid with lots of bubbles, should i still withdraw at that point?

i think pinnning quads is the most comfortable. glutes are kinda awkward because you have to turn your body and sht.

>>38918842
I do work in finance
Pretty good money if I put the time in
Which im not this week lol

>>38918955
Quads will affect your lifting/walking a lot. It really is not that difficult to turn to the side a bit and pin glutes.

If you aspirate and anything except clear bubbles appears you should pull out and change needles (you can still inject, it is your own body fluid after all) then pick a new spot. I've never once had anything but bubbles appear when I pin glutes and I'm 100% serious when I say it should be your go-to area for long ester and/or high concentration pins. You literally feel nothing.

>>38918925
>test infections
What do you mean?
If you mean injection site infections usually that's Staph. aureus or S. pyogenes. What antibiotic depends entirely on where you live and the local microbial resistance.

why the fuck would anyone take insulin or hgh?
everything will grow and you will look like a disfigured mutant with that turtle belly and enlarged head, hands n shit.

you can literally go 250 pounds with steroids alone and have an asthetic adonis belt.

but take insulin or hgh and you end up some rich pannini out of proportion piece of shit.

just saw some youngster roiding faggot in the gym with a 9months pregnant belly. everyone was laughing at this retard.

>>38919015
i see.
do you think it would be easier to just go to the doc and say

>im vegan bro and my b12 shot went wrong, gimme some botics.

compared to buying online.
3 of my trusted sources dont even sell botics

>>38919004
i guess ill try it at one point.
thanks for info

whats the longest ester to use for test?

im going on a vacation and i found out that the halph life of enanthate is not 7-10 days, but like 3 days (everyone states 7-10 days on their website).

would sustanon work?
and no i dont want to bring cattle hormone with me

>>38919129
That's what another guy on here did a few days ago and everything went fine for him.

>>38919154
Enanthate.
Do you know what half-life means? How long is your vacation?

>>38919154
>>38919207
Apparently I lied when I said Enanthate. However, if you are using UGL gear good luck finding anything longer.
http://www steroidology com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/19735-steroid-esters-good-info.html

>>38919207
its 1 week.

i know i would probably be fine if i inject right before i leave, but i want to prevent fluctuating levels, that shit always gives me acne breakouts

>>38919235
I'm extremely glad I ran short ester Tren. Sides hit way too hard and I would have been extremely miserable if I had to wait 2-3 weeks for them to subside. Even just the 5 nights of sleeplessness after stopping my Tren A injects made me fucking miserable.

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should i wipe pin spot after injection?

if yes, directly after or wait some minutes?

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Those who have baldness on their mother's side; How have roids impacted your hair?

For those who did bald; How rapidly did it happen?

>>38919270
You don't really need to whipe it with alcohol afterward if that's what you are asking. I just use half a cotton ball and push hard as fuck and massage the area for ~45 seconds so my gear doesn't leak out. And yes you do it immediately after. I pull the pin out, cap it, grab cotton ball and stop the bleeding/possible gear leakage asap.

>>38919296
Baldness on my mother's side.
I'm 29.
5 weeks of 100mg Tren A and 7 weeks of 1g Test E and I have had zero hair problems.

>>38919015
I cant believe you actually responded to that.
I mean goid on you for helping but that guys a retard

>>38919270
No.
The wipes dont acrually kill, just make a barrier, wiping again onky hurts the blood sealing the spot shut

>>38919250
Test u is long
But you have to start it like 8 weeks out
Sust is a blend eith short esters, its worse than e
Just frontload before you leave and bring some ai

>>38919297
I would agree with your argument. Some people say their sides are worse with E though, and that they pin it every day or every other day despite it being a long ester. Something something more stable blood levels.

>>38918842
Hey slut.
Still vegan? Still with shoe head?

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> just got hired through black slave to do the pedophile's dream job on weekends for a ridiculous amount of money
> having little kids pay about $60/hour to ride motorized animals

I've done so many odd jobs this month that I'm becoming a public service. Feel kind of bad for ripping their parents off but it's not my department. Black slave has acquired me so many connections it's ridiculous. Black slave's boss refuses to hire me for the sole reason "they'll think he's the manager". There's a lot of profit for White Men among black women. She went to a ghetto hair dresser (hair is a complicated subject) and a woman literally off the boat from Africa was telling her how lucky she is to have me and I'll be a good provider, simply because I'm aryan.

>>38919389
How about just pinning more? Problem solved
700mg a vs 2x 2cc @ 200/cc

>>38919416
1: why would they think you are the manager? because you are white

>aryan
i thought you were some eastern/middle eastern guy.

>>38919456
Step up your sourcing game...
I'll get 2,5g tren e for same price as 1g a
Supply demand rules are amazing if everyone is uneducated and only wants a

>>38919484
lol ban hammer inc

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>>38919523
your pic, the source name is written on it

>>38919456
Pinning E every day would be much more stable than pinning A every day.

>>38919712
Same fucking thing if it is UG

>>38914802
Can I take Adderall with DNP? Will it kill me?

>>38919853
You are so fucking stupid that you will accidentally kill yourself before the drugs do. So, go for it.

>>38919853
It would be extremely painful.

>>38919976
I'm a big guy. DNP reviews seem pretty hot

>>38919853
serious answer it's actually a damn good way to counter DNP sides other than sweat

>>38920569

This, about 10mg at waking and again at lunch. Combined with t3 it's awesome for dnp. Clonidine is nice for trensomnia.

>>38918011
wait... what happened? I havent been online in a few weeks

I've been B&C for over a year (only one blast tbqh) but I'm thinking about staying on even longer.

How long is too long to be on? I DO want to come off in the future. I'm also in my 30s so scared I won't recover if I stay on too long.

>>38920866
i think you should take a break after 2 years total.

>>38920866
Im nearing my 30s and came off after 2 years on. 2 blasts. I hated it. Despised every second. Blood tests confirmed my natty test was slightly above my pre/fraud/ levels. But nothing is like being on. Being in control of your hormones. I'm 28 now and hopped back on last month. This time I don't have any plans of ever coming off.

>>38920851
Cut my leg up so i can run and stuff (eventually)

>>38921094
Thats a lot of risk ordering bathtub chems forever though. I have a good stockpile right now but need to order again soon.

I guess when I'm late 30s I can get an actual prescription but still.

>>38920897
any reason specifically?

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>watch grease again for the first time since I was like 8
>the two attractive males are tall and the other ugly ones are short

>>38921261
also why are the actors so god damn old looking now days they atleast have 30 year olds that look 18

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I lift at home using dumbells exclusively. I also run sprints.

How would roids help me build muscle and get leaner?

>>38921233
nah no specific reason.
your system will be shut off for 2 years, give it a break, see how it goes, how the recovery will be, how you will react and if everything will be alright.

if its all good, ur g2g to start BnC again

was it test only? what was your cruise/blast dosages?

can you tell me how blast was diffeerent?
Im on 250mg cruise, and wanna blast 500mg soon and id be curious what to expect.

Any bros here have experience with melanotan 2? I'm going to get some, as I am deathly pale. It's pretty disgusting honestly.

>>38921316
how heavy are your dumbells?

>>38921316
if you know what you are doing (training wise), roids would benefit you just as much as someone who lifts at the gym.

weight is weight, wether it is from a clean and "modern" dumbbell at the gym or some rusty old DB you had lying around for the past 10 years and never used.

>>38921317
Yes test only, though during my blast I played with dbol a bit.

I was cruising at 150mg and then upped to 200mg because I had bad backne at 150 for some reason.

500 blast is fun as shit. Really need to keep an eye on estro sides and enjoy watching your hair fall out. If you're like me and you don't have bald genetics, it grows back so its not a big deal.

Otherwise, more gains, more bloat, more BP, more sides.

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>>38921261
fucking lanklets right I hate them

pic related is to all mean lanklets

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>>38921362

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>>38919848
>Same fucking thing if it is UG
Not really. There are multiple sources for "posh UGL" like the one >>38919484 posted and the labs never sell directly from their own sites.

The name of the lab doesn't tell you anything about where to get it.

>>38921358
loll

my hair hasn't been affected at all by tren test or dbol even tho my grandfather is bald

nice

How tf do you guys not get stretch marks?
I'm natural and I'm getting stretch marks from gaining muscle or maybe pump?

>>38915815
yes but it wont come back lower will it?

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1 YEAR

Are steroids the ultimate solution for extreme gains?

>>38921358
well that sucks, because im 23 and already have widow peaks.
if i go through my hair and mop it up a bit, my sink is full of hair.

I have advanced Anti MPB techniques so i think ill survive it.
advanced meaning, i can halt (and maybe even regrow it, working on that right now) my hairloss without using any drug and having no sides at all

>>38921611
there is no way in fuck that was 1 year stop being stupid anon

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>>38914802
I use test and b and c can I get a 10/10 waifu like pic related?

http://hashem-alghaili.com/news/medicine/promising-biomaterial-build-better-bones-3-d-printing/
>tfw won't have to be a 5'6 manlet forever
6'4 here I come

>>38918011

what happened to you anyway? kept reading about the surgery but never knew what it was for

>>38921657
>i can halt (and maybe even regrow it, working on that right now) my hairloss without using any drug and having no sides at all
is it called genetics?

if not, wtf are you talking about

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How should I clean this glassware I'm going to brew in? I washed it 3 times with boiling water and then 99% isopropyl alcohol. Should I rinse with distilled water too or do you think that's enough? I'm only going to use it for brewing, pre-filter stuff.

>>38921905
Compartment syndrome
Fascia was too small

>>38921994
Thats good imo
But i gave cunt an abscess lol

Are you homebrewers actually importing raws from china? isn't that extremely risky relative to just ordering domestic gear?

Retarted question but here goes.

I've done 2 dbol only cycled and managed to keep all the gains an build upon them.

Now I've moved onto a better more sensible stack of test, tren and tbol to kickstart the gains.
I"ll be using Clomid and Nolvadex for my pct.

I'm extremely anal about my diet and my sleep to the point that it drives my gf mad for not having sex for wanting my 8,5 hours of sleep.

Will I keep most of the gains? Or is it mostly based on other factors beyond your own control?

>>38922139
>>I'm extremely anal about my diet and my sleep to the point that it drives my gf mad for not having sex for wanting my 8,5 hours of sleep.
autism

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>>38922138
Not really. They likely won't know what it is even if they do find it. Most field tests only show for coke heroin or other common street drugs.

>>38922054
>abcess

Shieeeet. I mean I doubt it was something you did when brewing, probably filtering or that glassware. I'm using presterilized vials thankfully.

>>38922157
Yes autism, nothing officially confirmed but I'm pretty sure I'm autistic as fuck.
At least I managed to channel all this autism into lifting instead making spreadsheets for mmo's.

>>38922173
I wish all autism friends were like this

>>38922139
I wouldnt do tren your first cycle breh, but thats just my opinion.

As far as gains, if your diet is ok you'll only lose a little after PCT. Worry about actually getting the gains in the first place, roids aren't magic.

>>38922172
In retrospect I definitely popped the needle top filter.
Bottle filtering is soooo much better

Natty here. I have bacne, trouble keeping an erection, and low libido. Got my test checked and it was in the mid-300s, so probably not the cause. Could it be estrogen? What would a doctor do/prescribe if I had wonky estrogen levels?
Would I be just unable to practically hop on gear if my natural estrogen levels were fucked up?

>>38922258
Thanks man, I read into Tren and it sounded really good so I went for it.

I'm starting week 5 out of 10 in 2 days and so far the gains have been beyond amazing amazing aside from the minor stretchmarks on my ass.

Gained around 4-5kg (sorry americans) and went from 11% to 9% bf.
Prone to gyno, but Arimedex seems to fix it but I keep reading conflicting things on it impacting gains?

>>38922285
Unfortunately it is as hard to get ai from a doctor as it is trt.
I spiked my estrogen with literal estradiol pills and the endo only said "its real high alright"

I recommed you try 100mg/wk it got me to 800ng/dl, and get some ai around

>>38922285
Mid 300 is not good, my dude. I had 450 natty levels and I hated it. I suppose its not "low" in the medical sense but 300 sucks my rock hard dick, breh.

>>38922301
Dont worry about the AI shit, people overanalyze everything (kinda like what you're doing right now). Just worry about the major things like diet, sleep, sides, and busting your ass. The details are only important when you're a giant man-mountain.... IMO.

>>38922357
Cheers man, I flip my shit way to quickly when I know something is/can go wrong.

Maybe one day I'll feel brave enough to post in cbt and get some mire's from you guys, no homo.

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>>38922263
>syringe filter

>>38921324
i've used a few times, what do you wanna know?

it's a water-soluble injectable. keep it in the fridge. use insulin pins and shoot it subq into your stomach area.

taking it before bed, and/or with an antihistamine may be necessary as it can sometimes cause a histamine response.

i'd suggest taking a lower dose for longer vs higher doses.

you will still need to tan. i'd recommend standing beds for most even coverage. be careful about incidental sun (usually on your face/back of your neck) as you will tan 5-10x faster on it than you would normally.

you may also see some darkening or development of moles, from what i have read this is temporary and cosmetic, but slow down if it bothers you.

>>38921657
>can halt (and maybe even regrow it, working on that right now) my hairloss without using any drug and having no sides at all
uh, gunna call bs on this, friendo

>>38922475
How permanent are the results? I hear people "cruise" on it after they get to their desired color.

And yeah I was wondering about the "incidental sun" thing, since it seems like my face and stuff would wind up way darker than the rest of me. This shouldn't be a big deal if you live in a really cold area during the winter, right?

>>38922509
>How permanent are the results? I hear people "cruise" on it after they get to their desired color.
the results seem to 'stick' more than tanning without it. i swear it had a very slight permanent effect on my skin tone, but that could just be placebo.

regardless, it's similar to building muscle mass, in that there is an exponential backoff function to progress. meaning big gains early, that slow down to a trickle afterwards.

>And yeah I was wondering about the "incidental sun" thing, since it seems like my face and stuff would wind up way darker than the rest of me. This shouldn't be a big deal if you live in a really cold area during the winter, right?

you can still get significant uv exposure even on overcast days. i'd probably recommend some sort of sunscreen or moisturizer with an spf rating, although i don't really know jack shit about that stuff.

also be wary that some drugs (isotretinoin, topical retinoids) can make you extra sensitive to sunlight.

>>38922331
>>38922357
I'm not really ready to hop on, so I asked that mostly for the future, if I decide to. I'm guessing the doctor would be about as useful as he was when I talked to him about the low test.

Ilove being an enormous person 10/10 would recommend

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>>38922263
How the hell do you draw the oil out of the bottom of the bottle top filter? I don't have a seripettor and last time I tried that I found out the opening on the bottle was too small to fit a 60ml syringe into and draw it up.

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>>38922626
I sucked it up with a syringe
I used a 6ml though because im.a retard and didn't buy larger lol

>>38922573
Yep.
Sorry m8

>>38922458
>not caulk-gun brewing

>>38922622
Tell us broski

>>38922626

I just use a septa cap. I hope you have 18g. Maybe I'm dumb but I didn't think anything of it and tried to fill a 60ml through a 21g. That was a real bitch, great hand workout though.

>>38922622
was it you that told a story a while back about going to the mall and 'having an erection the entire time'? i think about that post every once in a while and it cracks me up every time.

>>38921947
bro science methods brah, thats what im talking about

>>38922500
thats okaay

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>>38922659
>6ml
I've got some 10ml ones so maybe I'll try it again this time around.

>>38922671
>septa
Eh I would but I don't trust myself to properly sterilize it. Maybe if I can bribe my friend to autoclave it at work.

>>38922705
well at least fucking tell us what these 'bro science' methods are, faggot

>>38922709
slutty Anne Hathaway

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pic related, what is the true meaning of this?

is it the inner /fit/ personality BTFO'ing the autistic beta that has taken over you?

is it that?

i really like that pic

>>38922739
lol its a lot. like 10 different things i am doing/will do for my hair.

>tell us
do you know how many times i have typed out a wall of text, and all i get is

>xDD fkn retard, stay mad balding faggot LOLOLOL

Im also not fully done yet, i have stopped my hairloss as of now, but i want to regrow it aswell, without fishy drugs or hair transplants. That is my ultimate goal.

Now im a really nice guy so i am going to link you something that will show proof and SOME of the methods i use.

le proof: http://swisstemples.com/my-progress/

scroll down to see the progress.

le methods: http://swisstemples.com/what-to-buy-and-use/

the most things i use are in the ghetto protocol

>>38922818
>>38922739

oh and this link: http://imgur.com/a/GLhQ5

you can do what you want with that information

>>38922818
dude are you literally the guy from swisstemples? i dunno why i'm even surprised that that bullshitting autist browses 4chan

>>38922818
>le
xDD fkn retard, stay mad balding faggot LOLOLOL

>>38922858
no im not lol, im a roided up douchebag with a slightly receded hairline, not a fat racist fuck

>>38922689
Oh yeah that was probably back in June. I took my ex to the mall and she tried on a bunch of shit for me. She could see I was hard all day, and she made a point of acting out and bring slutty to egg it on.

Good times.

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>>38922894
>He didn't fuck her in the dressing rooms

You dun missed out duder.

>>38922924
I did tho

>>38922894
lol that was pretty funny. not as funny as some story from even further back, i dunno if it was mossad or some other retard who was defending his frontloading of 1 gram of DNP or something.

i just love listening to stories of retards being retarded, basically.

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>>38922930
Oh okay. I'd say fingerbang her in the rooms until shes about to scream as punishment for teasing you then just fuck the shit outta her.

Anand thats how you get charged with public indecency.

>>38922780
pepe is smug and mean and wojak is sad but wojak has had enough so he punches pepe

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>>38915941
couple of tweaks.

still trying to build up my ps skills

Since there's no dnp general these days where do you guys get the shit? Dnp.cc was great but he isn't around anymore

>>38922939
No I don't fuck with dnp.

Not sure how public sex is retarded though. What're they going to do? Act awkward and then tell us to leave? Okay fine.

>>38922939
that was me, i always frontload dnp

why not?

i posted the blood levels chart and everyone started chimping out

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>>38923365
>mfw 5'6 and 145lbs and frontloaded 1.3g
did it throughout the day though

>>38923449
one time i took 1.25g on an empty stomach all at once to frontload

bad idea

i vomitted literally at LEAST 200 times that night

if i moved my stomach area at ALL i would vomit instantly. like i couldn't turn my body even 1 degree, or move a single centimeter, or instant vomit.

i had to lie in bed until it went away, not moving at all the whole time. took probably around 24 hours to go away

>>38923475
ouch, luckily only took 200mg the first time so I learned that I should take it with food.

I'm on a 300mg cruise and my AI is gonna be here in a week, can I just start blasting 600mg or wait until ai?

>>38923566
just wait, one week isn't worth titties

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>>38922331
>>38922357
>>38922659
[temptation intensifies]

>>38923566
If it is enanthate, start blasting. It won't saturate that quickly. You will be fine.

>>38921591

it could. it's a gamble really. you'll only know once you come off and get bloodwork.

Good age to hop on gear? Been lifting for years w/ great diet and great exercise regime and seems like I hit my genetic potential and I want to leave humanity behind.

>>38919495

Drunk AF but nah ho, I'm like 99.9% northwestern European and 0.1% native american.

So drunk idk where my phone or black slave is and she's gonna beat my ass momentarily as I entertain inhibiting violence with bitches, Regardles, lesson is don't buy black iPhones.

>>38922818
>http://imgur.com/a/GLhQ5
>>38922854
thx senpai, looks interesting

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>>38924232
>99.9% northwestern European and 0.1% native american.

you're really not gonna mix your pure genes with that black chick are you?

post pics of junglebutt pls

>>38924232
so was it you that frontloaded 1 gram of DNP or what?

either way, please tell us your most retarded roid/drug/life stories.

>>38924232
Did you make any headway on your research into hairloss and the factors beyond DHT?

>>38924640
it was me yeah

i'll type this shit up cuz i have no life and am bored

I almost killed myself a few times with dnp (i think)

Once was when I didn't eat anything at all, all day on 500mg because I was too nauseous and apparently that can make you overheat and die. I was overheating so bad I had to get into an ice bath, and my skin around my chest area was so hot it was unreal. After 30 mins of being in a cold bath I said fuck it and ate some cake, chips, junkfood, etc.. as a desperate last measure since I thought I was gonna die anyway, and I was completely better within 15-20 minutes.

I don't get how NOT eating makes you overheat on that shit, it makes no sense.

The 2nd time I was also on 500mg dnp, and drank waaaayyyy too much. Talking like fuckloads of vodka, whiskey, champagne, japanese sake, polish beer, everything. and that's only what i remember. had 30 shots that i can remember (had way more after that according to others but i don't remember it).

You always hear this bullshit about how if you drink on dnp you get dehydrated and die in your sleep... well let me tell you that's bullshit. lol. didn't even have a hangover the next day, let alone being dead

Third time... 500mg dnp again. Did some heavy ass yard work in the summer heat (the genius I am) and came inside feeling hypo as fuck, tried to ignore it and passed out for I don't know how long. I woke up a few hours later and ate two strawberries (muh strict diet) and felt fine afterwards.

So yea. And obviously that one time with the 1.25g frontload on an empty stomach and the vomit. But idk if that counts as almost dying.

>>38924798
Why do you take that rat poison?

>>38924798
hahaha you fucking retard.

i've done some dumb shit myself (although i haven't ever used dnp).

i once bought some 'extasy' pills from a headshop (probably mostly caffeine and who knows what other garbage), and dissolved the pill contents into some water in a spoon, and loaded up the solution into a syringe.

the only smart thing i did in the entire sequence of events was to only push half the solution into my veins at once. when i did (i was on the toilet in my parent's bathroom at the time), i almost immediately started getting flushed in my face and chest, and hyperventilating. i though 'oh fuck this is it', and looked in the mirror slumped over the toilet. i was bright fucking red down to my waist, huffing and heaving like i just ran a mile, and my heart was fucking beating out of my chest.

obviously i survived, but it was pretty fucking scary. god i am a retard.

>>38924819
Cuz once you see how fast you can cut with it you will never want to cut without it again.

>>38924798
It seems to me that your problem is having no self discipline. No amount of drugs can cure that.

I suggest taking 5g of DNP and doing us all a favor or going cocoon mode and work on not being such a fuck up.

>>38924851
what part of any of that is self discipline. lol. besides the drinking maybe.

and cutting on dnp is 100x harder than without it because of the carb cravings. that's why most people fail on it. the cravings are fucking insane and out of this world. whenever i run that shit, the carb cravings are so insane that my eyes will roll back into my head with pleasure just from looking at a shitty piece of bread or something because they are that intense. it's almost impossible to resist.

google dnp binges, you'll see.

>>38924868
So you have no will power. Do the world a favor like this anon said >>38924851.

>>38924956
did u even read the fucking post retard

>and cutting on dnp is 100x harder than without it because of the carb cravings. that's why most people fail on it. the cravings are fucking insane and out of this world. whenever i run that shit, the carb cravings are so insane that my eyes will roll back into my head with pleasure just from looking at a shitty piece of bread or something because they are that intense. it's almost impossible to resist.

>google dnp binges, you'll see.

u don't know what willpower IS until you have ran this shit.

>>38924868
I'm half kidding but really I said that for a few reasons.

You've used DNP multiple times which means you don't have dietary discipline.
You've taken shortcuts already which leans towards poor discipline.
You drank a lot on DNP which is poor self discipline.
And you're using excessive doses which is impatience which tends to mean less discipline.

But I'm just talking shit. Everyone should ignore me on Saturdays. Work sucks

>>38924967
Yeah, so literally will power. Stay large fatty.

>>38924967
Also I've ran it before. Carb binging is normal. The rest... not so much.

>>38925004
Oops, posted as anon.

>>38925004
used it twice, once when natty and fat as shit, second time after my first roidbulk because i knew how effective it was to cut fast.

>>38925004
>>38925006
also this is the shit natties say about roiders.

so why do you do steroids

"hur to achieve what you can't natty"

well you can't cut 1lb of fat a day without dnp either.

>>38925024
No mate. You have completely avoided the fact that I pointed out that you have no will power. Again, I hope the cataracts blind you - stay fat. Your Australian friendo.

>>38925047
can you explain how cutting faster and 100x as miserably is less will power than cutting while not feeling like your dying but taking longer?

Is psmf also "no will power" compared to a 500 deficit? do you have no brain?

>>38925145
It's not the DNP part m8, it's the rest of your stories. The DNP doesn't help though.

If you're happy and feel like you have a strong will then ignore everyone. You arguing more just makes it seem like you're defensive because you know you're wrong.

>>38925167
>doing yard work or not eating all day means i have no will power

guess what, ill act like a natty for a min here. you are doing steroids, you have no will power to build your body naturally. you are sacrificing your health for quick shortcuts because you are too lazy to lift naturally with perfect diet and training

>>38925181
and im posting cuz i am interested in what kind of sheer stupidity can be used to reach these conclusions

>>38925181
Stop being so defensive mang, I already admitted I was shitposting. Just stop drinking so much and overdosing.

>trying to get laid with the friend of a girl that's clearly not into you.
Nothing wrong with this right?

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>blasting on 2grams+ of gear (tested and it's actually overdosed)
>bulking 4k+ cals with at least 2x bw:gram of protein
>women bodybuilders are buffer than you

livin the life.

>>38925399
tfw their dicks are probably bigger than mine

>>38925399
>those cannon-ball delts on donald

am i missing something or is it really this easy

i understand when people say psmf is hard, but psmf with an ECA stack is literally easier than cutting normally, hunger-wise...

why doesn't everyone do this

>>38925290
She missed her chance, she might bitch about it later.

how does spotify selects what music to put on your tinder profile?

>>38925535
my problem is that it's our only mutual friend, it would be too obvious if I send her a friendship request.

>>38925399
Where were you when you realized anything over 700mg test did nothing but increase sides with no discernable increases in size and strength?

>>38925601
Talk to her on not facebook??

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>>38925669
Unlike her friend she doesn't go to my uni and I saw her on a pic and found her pretty.
This might be complicated, I'm also giving up on the main girl too by doing this.

>>38925710
If main girl isn't into you you have literally nothing to lose and everything to gain. Fuck it, fuck her, and fuck her.

>>38925649

>nobody benefits at all from baby doses!
>lee priest got to where he was with only 300mg test and 250 deca a week!

You're an even bigger fucking idiot than the normies who think they are natural.

>>38925754
That was a confusing greentext anon.

Also, please post pic of your 1500mg test a week Lee Priest body.

>>38925791

I meant

>nobody benefits at all PAST baby doses.

>fucked up at party
>1 Molly 14 shots tequila
>listen to CHVRCHES Recover on repeat on headphones
>miss ex
>get a headache

I haven't had water in 48 hours it's just been straight since forever

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>>38925981
Time to drink some water bimbs

>>38926054
I smoked some weed it's fine now

>>38925981
>miss ex
it's time to move on, I saw a girl I used to date on tinder, more reason to move on fampai.

>>38926105
Yeah it is time. She has. She's got a new interest and everything.

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>>38926091
drink some water bimbo pls

ur in BA atm?

>>38926124
Up near sac

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>finally get over infection feels
>Catch a cold from roommates

Why

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>>38926324
Got fever?
if not, u can go to gym. or i would

>>38926324
That's why I always avoid my sick friends as much as possible. Lel also what >>38926421 said. A simple cold is not a reason to skip the gym.

>>38926421
>>38926530
don't get your germs all over the gym equipment you homos

and on top of that are starting to juice before even repping 3 plates while being lean lol

do any of you guys even look like you lift or are you dyels on gear lol

>>38926731
>>38926750
xD lol

So yeah I am the guy that got a legit eating disorder from running dnp and psmf...

Is there a way to fix this shit? I was fine before, in fact I could barely eat enough before, now if I let loose I would easily be able to consume easily over 10k clean cals and still feel hungry. Most I've done was slightly over 6k all clean and still felt hungry, 3k of which was at once (lol).

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>>38926783
bit hard to give advice when i cant understand even your question. What are you trying to fix?

>>38926802
I was normal before in terms of food and hunger, now I can eat until my stomach feels like it is gonna rupture and still feel hungry as fuck. Clean food too, not anytbing processed. Like I ate 6k a few weeks ago, 3k of which was at once, of rice, pasta, beans, chicken, vegetables, oats, etc.. And still was hungry, had to restrain myself to stop at 6k

Some drunk guy just walked up to me while I was working the door and I had my hair down and he gave me a high five then pulled out his Mjolnir necklace (Thors hammer) and was like yeahhh! And I said fuck yeah that's awesome. And he was like "fucking western civilization right??" And I confusingly agreed again. Then he proceeded to imaginary curb stomp someone and said "fuck the rest of them" and that's when I realized I was hanging out and celebrating with a skinhead on accident.

>>38926841
Seems like you accidentally activated the fat gene.

>>38926783
harsh dieting in general (1500cal or less) slows your metabolism and fucks with your leptin. If you suddently increase the calories, your body is going to release ghrelin and store what it can (your body doesn't know when it'll be able to acquire food like this again)

you just have to taper your calories up and watch the scale, you'll initially gain a bit of weight in glycogen (perfectly normal) but anything at/over 10 lbs and you're increasing calories too fast

do this until you're eventually at your maintenance, it'll suck but if you dont do it, you'll just lose all your progress by the end of your binge

>>38926868
Ayy lmao but shitty food doesn't even appeal to me at all. I'll look at shitty food and won't even want it. I sit here craving the fuck out of oats and chicken with rice and pasta with beans, shit like that.

If only I could afford hgh so I could eat infinite foos

>>38926883
Food*

>>38926883
I honestly don't really know what you could do but I can think of 2 possible ways to approach it and see if it does anything.
1 get on methylphenidate or amphetamine in a dosage high enough to curb your appetite. Then stay on and adjust for a few weeks maybe then slowly lower the dosage and hope the hunger feeling stays gone.
2 the other way, maybe by running mk677 at pretty at like 20mg a day (or whatevef dosage makes you hungry as fuck)for a few weeks then suddenly quit. Then the body might have gotten used to the extreme Hunger from the mk677 and when its quit not feel so hungry anymore.


Anyway those are just guesses, I never heard of someone with a problem like you before lol

>>38926920
Yeah prob cuz not many retards do dnp and psmf. Most people binge on psmf or dnp alone, I've done both alone and neither one compares even slightly to them combined, hunger wise.

I hope I didnt permanently fuck my leptin or something, it's been months already

>>38926946
Do you take your vitamins and minerals, maybe you're deficient in Sth.

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Apart form insulin, hgh and peptides is there anything else non-test related that can be useful? Going off test for a while

can we actually get a pic of any of you guys so we know that you arent dyels blasting fuckloads of gear and dont know shit?

please lol

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>>38927121
would it matter?
>>38927188
please gtfo

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p much the entire thread looks like this while giving gear advice and blastin 3g/wk lol

>>38927121
inb4 mast

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>>38927326
that looks pretty good.

Do you not know how the big trips here look like?

masT was 100kg at one point.
bimbo is 6'4" mountain.
Chem (if that guy ever shows up again) is fucking huge too.
Some of the trips are absolute failures though, that yolo guy for example.

i only have a pic of masT so thats what im going to show you, but im pretty sure you have seen him already.

>>38927326
mfw i look like that but with smaller legs and im natty, lifting for a year

>>38927385
nope im new here but 95% of people ive seen on gear look like shit

>>38927468
post a pic then, big boy

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but now that we have it established that we have actual big natties here, can u guys help me out with my first cycle
im 4 weeks in and still look like shit. I gained my first 10lb water and got up 20lb from there in week 4 and now im 206lb. how should i up the calories since im only running 600mg test per wk + 40mg dbol per day. how big should i expect to get at week 15 or how big should i get
heres pic

i feel like i need a good 3g blast and to up the calories to 5-6k/day if i want to get to big boy status idk or should i just be more patient. currently i just eat in my surplus i did as a natty (500 above maintain)

>>38927495
have you not made any research at all?
week 4 is where test just STARTS beginning to kick in.
dont over bulk, if you gained 20lb it means you are eating enough (waterweight or not).

you will gain lots of weight in the beginning, and less weight afterwards.

why? because in the beginning its just glycogen and water.
if your weight goes up after that, it means you are actually making legit gains.

but again, week 4 where it just starts to kick in.
gg for not doing your research

>>38927567
im aware of the water and the 4 week build up lmao. i just feel as if i shouldve made a bit more progress because i didnt start as one of those hungry dyels

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>>38927495
>>38927326
y rly posting pics from cbts? like u legit real rn?

>>38927582
no, test kicks in after 4 weeks, no matter where your starting point is.

also you said you put on 20lbs already, be happy, some of it are gains

>>38927610
I wont be happy until i have 18 inch arms at the same bodyfat and when people on the internet look at me for a split second and say ive turned it in

>>38927646
lol, that wont happen in your first cycle.
you will make good gains, but building muscle takes some time even with AAS.

also expect to lose a lot of weight when you come off, which is water and glycogen.
Thats why people always say " ull look like shit when you stop roids", which is bullshit.
You keep like 80% of your gains, but you drop a lot of water and every retard mistakes it as gains.

>>38927664
im at 17.3 currently

>>38927682
sigh...
and when estp comes back fraud goes madman again, yet everythings dead now.

bump

>>38917093
i use 1 inch blue needles but i only inject my quads with them i think you would need a little bit longer for glutes. delts are fine too with 1 inch but im not injecting in the delts so i wouldnt know

>>38917344

yes dont overdo orals too much and get you liver checked up on at the hospital every now and then

>>38917436
wait is that photoshop

>>38917887
interesting im about to start using tren myself but i have a 5 gram a day weed habit i dont wanna kick

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>>38929129
tren only first cycle?

>>38918234
why everybody keep posting pics of this girl she is so ugly and filthy looking, it looks like she got some sort of autism or something

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>>38929186

why don't you guys use insulin? this guy only use insulin nothing else
>>38929107

nolva after 700mg/wk of test for 12 weeks

im thinking either 20/20/10/10 or 40/20/10/10
or just do 20 straight for a month

please give me some input cause im not really smart when it comes to pct and stuff

>>38929159
no 2nd cycle high test/ low tren and maybe npp or dbol aswell

>>38929299
from what i heard diabetics can use insulin and build muscle while staying shredded but i dont think this guy only used insulin he doesnt have that kind of physique

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>>38929333
k. sounds good.

ppl often say that they regret not adding enough mass b4 going on tren. just sayin'

>>38929314
why not the regular 40/40/20/20?
what makes you so special?

>>38929370
im 110 kg fairly lean so i think ill benefit from tren pretty good dude

>>38929374
I've heard nolva is straight poison and i dont want to be taking more than absolutely necessary and people online are saying that 40 really is too much and you dont benefit from taking 40 more than 20mg ed

so maybe a kickstart with 40 the first few days and then just run 20 ed for the rest of the month.

i just popped 40mg right now

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>>38929401
>110kg
>lean
nice. height?

>>38929348
actually he is natty and is diabetic, that is why he use slin. one year difference between photos

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>>38929429
180cm ok not lean but im not fat i still have veins and a bit of abs

>>38929401
pics of fairly lean?

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>>38929447
oh you're that guy. post prog after done cycled. u will look beast