/fraud/ general

>Doctor insisted 350ng/dl test is normal for a 20y/o man and that the range is calibrated to your age rather than just being a range for men from 18 to 70

What the fuck?

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Do you guys think it's safe to use year+ old MCT oil to brew if it's been kept in a dark place? I should probably stop being cheap and just buy a new one though.

>>38900055
test range is stupidly varied. A different doc would offer TRT with double that.

>>38900073
What she said was entirely opposite to what you guys say and everything I've read

Like wtf

>>38900068

what a terrible swimsuit choice

>>38900055
Happened to me, too. It's not *that* low, but it's also probably not as high as it would normally be at your age.
>>38900094
I know, right? She'll never get that zipped up all the way.

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>>38900086
>women doctors

but for real though, they don't want to give you anything because your test levels are "fine" but still on the low end of a very huge scale.

Go to one of those sketchy "anti-aging" docs if you're desperate, those guys will give anyone a HGH and test prescription on the spot.

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>>38900031
is it true mass T is a cuckold who Preps a bull daily for his 5/10 gf?

Thus explaining his hard on for black bodybuilders?

>>38900107
isn't 300ng like the lowest of the range? I'm not far off it...

>>38900117
Even for 20 year olds? I'm in canada that'd be dope

>>38900146
Probably not.

>>38900166
Depends which source you use to get the range. Some have it as low as 200ish, some have it as high as 400ish.

>>38900166
300 is very low (imo). I prefer to sit at 3500.

>>38900166
>I'm in Canada
>not gitting a free ref to an endo

I'm a freakin grill and I have a test script you have 0 excuses for not just dr shopping the free health care system senpai

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>>38900193

>>38900196
Wtf?

Teach me bby. I don't understand this fucking healthcare system. My family doctor told me to fuck off. Plesse teach to doctor shop

>>38900196
Look it is the smack whore with no ass that looks like a man.

>>38900196
I went to an endo in Toronto. Those guys are ready to put you on anything if you sound desperate enough.

Still sticking to buying bathtub chems until they start offering tren subscriptions though

>>38900219
Straight up ask for a referral. Worst case say your nipples are itchy and you think they're growing- instant endo appointment. If they say no go to the next clinic, not like it costs you anything.

I didn't even go to my doctor for one, just some random walk-in.

>>38900196
Thats because youre a girl
Its very difficult for male to get test, its extremely demonized

>>38900219
Youll still have fo visit multiple endos.
Just self medicate.

>>38900068
Most likely. Be prepared for extra pip

wooo canadanons lets have sex while estp watches

>>38900235
Damn really?

Even at 20? Seems minimum is like 30 for trt... fuk I'm going to hit up every walkin clinic then

I'm not in Toronto though but I guess I could mission

>>38900250
Yea I will but it'd be nice to have legit shit too

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>mfw can't decide if I'm yandere or tsundere towards notbf

Jerry is there a combo between the two?

>>38900219
Go to walkins and tell them you have no senpai dr and ask for endo refs if you can't just get this cunt hole to do it

Bonus points if male dr and you pretend to break down crying cuz they gonna find that hella awkward

>>38900235
Yes. Ty. It is seriously that simps

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Does this count as cheating

>>38900264
Thats just bein mean

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>>38900264
Lol truu

I asked my senpai doctor and she literally said the opposite of what any google resource says about test levels. Like wtf

I mean she's nice but what the heck

Okay I'm going to hit every walkin clinic.

We gonna get 8 TRT prescriptions then deal Pharma test to my boys

But the fuck do I say to the endo?

18 year old here should i take HGH ? will I get permanent results since I am still growing

>>38900314
>the fuck do I say to the endo?

"I feel like shit and I got my test levels measured and it said they are very low and my dick doesn't work too well can I have test?"

>>38900319
If by permanent results you mean a heart 3 times the normal size then yes. Just stick to normal gear till you're like 25.

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>>38900264
Estpeeee I think i'm broken. I literally don't care for sex in the least.

Ended up driving down to fuck some 18 yr old who was giving me coke, just not into it at all. Ended up driving home goin 97 with used condoms and coke all over my car and got a fixit ticket.

I think I need to see a therapist cuz sex does nothing for me.

>>38900339
>Just stick to normal gear
isn't that worse ? all the talk about fucking up your test production for good scares me

>>38900303
>Exogenous Test
>Has to ask if it is cheating.

>>38900303
where did you get that? I was curious about it when I heard girls who compete at the crossfit games use that

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>>38900250
>extra pip
because of MCT or because of the age? People seem conflicted about mct some say it's the best and people on here seem to say that it is absorbed too quickly and leaves the hormone.

>>38900345
well if you fuck up your test then worst case you have to be on gear for life. Worst case for growth is fucked up organs or that thing where your face looks like the Crimson Chin. Don't get me wrong I'd still personally do it but its very likely a bad idea.

Also growth is stupidly fucking expensive. a year of growth is like a decade of various sterons.

>>38900339
>can I have test

Is it literally that easy?

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>>38900251
>watches

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>>38900342
Get a daki
Of course 3d women won't please you

>>38900362
Theyre professional atheletes.
Theyre on roids.
But there are many better options than test cream lmao

>>38900364
Mote pip cause its broken down

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>>38900308

>>38900379
just dont ever mention anything about fitness and they won't assume you want easy gainz. Literally list some low-test symptoms and say your dad was also low-test and got TRT or something.

as long as you dont sound like a gymbro tryin to get huge they won't care. Maybe leave your 5% hoodie at home.

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what do I take to look like this?

>>38900314
I believe in you breh you got dis


Kek there's been a few times ive done into a walkin with an empty vial of test and been like 'blahblah blah cry i ran out and my endo is on vacation i don't remember his name he works at x hospital can you please give me a refill?' And they do it without even checking to see if my health record mentions anything

Some drs jyst don't give any fucks, just find em

>>38900342
Bb you just need some good ass pussay

Cum here nd I'll fix all yo woes senpai

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>>38900414
Or theyll say youre just depressed and leave that in your medical hustory forever.

Fucking doctors

>>38900399
Where is my ticket so i can use your corpse as a daki

Where's yolo?

Dammit yolo! Post jb pls!

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>>38900442
I dunno bruh, I have no interest in it I drove down just for the coke. I cant cum from sex and lose all what little interest I had in the lead up once my dick is inside. Just a hey cool you let me in, good to know cya.
>>38900392
Find me a daki that can keep me cool in the summers.

Just feels weird mang, not even tren can make me give a shit about poundin puss. She wants me to fuck her in the ass tomorrow and I might just cuz I never have but after that going back to no sex for another 8 years. Wish I was disfigured or some shit so people would stop expecting me to have sex.

>>38900414
Fuck

I think that's what did me in last time.

>>38900442
>Only in Saskatchewan

I wonder if it's pricy without insurance, my mom's bout to run out I think

I'm reading t-nation and northernmuscle posts about niggas that scribe this shit now
>>38900450
Why do doctors do this

I'm just looking up doctors on ratemd that seem chill now.

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>tfw browsing fraud while in the bath

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>>38900450
>use your corpse as a daki

Opposed to being stuffed in one? Uhnnm senpai I'm moving up in lyfe desu ne ~

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>>38900463
Dakis warm up as you hold them its goat

>Wish I was disfigured or some shit so people would stop expecting me to have sex.
Its not that fun trust me

>>38900523
Well first in the daki
Then you become one.
Gotta prototype

>>38900470
Mirin jelly
Im just on hydrocodon
I cant get my leg wet i want a bath

>>38900463
You're probably one of those weirdos who needs to foster some kind of mental or emotional connection to enjoy the sex

I could fix fucking stimmed out deca dick senpai. I'll be the-rapist bb don't waste ur dollarydoos elsewhere

Now lay back on my couch and tell me how that makes you feeeeel ; )

>>38900464
Sask has like the lowest dr per populous r8 in canada other than like nfl or something idr

You got tons of options senpai git out there

>>38900564
I somehow don't feel confident

Would they really prescribe a young fella test if I annoy them enough

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>>38900547
W-well if it's for s-science... desu...

>>38900196
>>38900264
that is literally the opposite of everyone I've ever heard's experience with trt

first you gotta doctor shop for the referral because you can't go to an endocrinologist directly, which is super time consuming and entirely luck based. then when you do manage to get your referral, endos are booked for months, so you get your first visit 3-4 months later, and that's not when you're getting the prescription anyway, it's gonna take at least 2 visits

the canadian health care system might be free, but it's fucking awful still

>>38900463
tfw no chinky eyed gf

>>38900576
Well not if you're full of all this gayass self doubt

That's the low test talking

Either buy online like the rest of us or disregard the thought of doubts or consequences and git fucking going

Don't hassle them if they aren't complying just move onto the next one. Look them in the eye and be firm but don't demand - drs are stubborn spiteful douches

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>>38900580
Its because shes a female
Theres not the stigma

>>38900578
Finally ill have my own real irl daki
I should have turned to slaughter years ago

>>38900580
For real man

Our healthcare's fucked. Besides, would you even get TRT at that point? I got a feeling the endo would tell you to just screw off

>>38900600
Give me a script to follow

>Plis gibe testostero

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>>38900547
I'm p. sure u a handsome feller senpai. Also why the fuck I want a daki to warm up when my room is already 115.

>>38900549
emotional connection haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. I dunno i've never had one with someone I dicked. I'd rather just do coke all day and shoot the shit here and then go play sports, sex just ain't the hobby for me.

What if you actually did fix my dick in a solid shota rape fantasy session. I don't even know how to live that life fampai.

Dave Palumbo recommended
1g test
and 300-400mg eq
as a decent bulk blast

what the fuck is the point of eq at this dose? most often I see eq recommended in the 600-800mg range on forums

>>38900580
Went smoothly for me

Canadas health care system will try to softly cuck you every turn, just don't take it if you don't want to get bumfucked

Just cuz the anecdoctal evidence you read had em all saying sorry eh I'll wait forevz don't mean it has to be that way

I still firmly believe its easier and if you dobt have insurance way cheaper to just buy online but hey

>>38900630
I'm speaking half from anecdotes half from experience

I went to a derm for accutane with a doctor's referral and it took FOUR MONTHS for my first visit because she was booked months in advance

it's truly awful

>>38900619
An autismo script scenario aint gonna work,read and react or order online srs

I buy my var international but there's tons of legit cad domestic sauces senpai don't waste your time with drs if you expect me to do the work for you

>>38900630
It's a pain in the fuck

I got p bad shoulder pain and the best I could get is a meme physio referral, I just want to see a knowledgeable orthomeme but idk fycking how.

Also like 6 month+ waiting list

>>38900644
KILL ME

I waited 6 months to see a derm. Then bsrely got accutane

Then when my acne came back he said I have the option of accutane again if I want. Said no and came back in a month

>Well I think accutane is dangerous blahblahblah...

Wtf

>>38900654
Yeah I know familia

But id just feel more comfort on pharma

>tfw don't live in a 3rd world country

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>>38900654
>Have no Dr
>cant see Endo without referral
>insurance won't cover anyway
>Find random Dr, he says bloods are a little low but fine so he won't refer me

AND U WONDER WHY I DO SHIT ILLEGALLY

>>38900644
>>38900679

Ask for a different doc. Some are booked for months, some are free the next day. The medical system is retarded. In ON at least they can give you a referral to the specific doc you want- its how I got my surgery referral for free.

Honestly though jsut buy illegal shit. At some point you're gonna want to use more than test anyways and will have to go through the whole iffy mystery chemical routine. If they stop your shit at the border you just lost money, cops wont show up unless you got like 10 grand worth of gear. There are also some really good domestic sources and (as a last resort) random roid monkeys at the gym.

>>38900654
lol what did you even tell your doctor to get test prescription as a girl

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>>38900688

>its part of my transition

>>38900620
There is no what if. I will. Now git in my candy van you little cunt

>>38900644
I went to a derm for accutane too

I told them to git fucked when they said it'd be a 6 month wait, said I was suicide and wouldn't leave the house ober it (lies), walked into the derm a week or two later, sat down and said ' I want accutane' and done

I know this method cant work for everyone but it's cuz you all too pussy to have shir on your health record that half the med systems don't even pass on to each other

I've been marked as aspd, drug seeking, barred from addictive subs for suspected selling of them etc

Guess who still gits scripts

The reality of our shit healthcare system is they make mistakes, don't care, are underpaid, in short supply, over worked and human. There is SO MUCH opportunity to abuse that if you get over this weird stigma you all have thinking there's some ultimate unbypassable system in place

>>38900684
I'm already on roids, that's not my issue.

I travel 9 weeks a year at least though, 3 weeks at a time. having a script would make everything so fucking easy but right now I'm limited to cycling instead of cruising.

>>38900684
Yeah ik but how do you know who's booked up?

I'm in Ontario too btw.

Oh and protip: call and ask for cancellation list, you can get in a week for appointments months from now if someone cancels(and they DO)

>>38900711
>Said I was suicidal over it and said I want accutane

Is it THIS easy or is it just another example of the pussypass in action? God damn I gotta try this

>>38900730
if anything, it would bar you from ever getting accutane from someone who knows what he's doing since depression is one of the main sides

but who knows, the power of pussy is strong

>>38900713
>I travel 9 weeks a year at least though, 3 weeks at a time. having a script would make everything so fucking easy but right now I'm limited to cycling instead of cruising.

Same exact shit i'm stuck with right now, being stuck with cycling only is just trash. Have to go to japan for 2 weeks at the end of october and i'm prolly just gonna bring preloaded syringes with me in my backpack and tell em to eat shit.

>>38900730
you can get anything you want in canada if you find the right balance between being polite and being an assertive cunt.

Hey /fit/

I've ran OSTA and MK677 before, but my source took my money and ran.

Should I start LGD for a bulk? Or should I just start pinning dat dere test? Can anyone help me out? [email protected]

>>38900730
>>38900741
You have to make it clear you're suicidal over your skin and not suicidal in general

Jeeze use your heads guys

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>>38900745
I seem to be the only Canadian who's doctor refuses to give him anything. Couldn't even get pain meds for a slipped disc without my MOM present and I'm 25 years old. Never been anything but polite to the doc too.

Yeah I'm salty.

Thank god I just switched to a new family doc so we'll see if this one is more amicable and not a sadist

>>38900745
Yes. Thank you. This is the truth

Fuck trudeau just made it legal for addicts who cant quit to get prescription heroin in one province like stop wasting your manipulative potentials it's 2016 bb

>>38900745
>you can get anything you want in canada if you find the right balance between being polite and being an assertive cunt.

Tips?

I'm having difficulty in this. I go too much to either side, either I'm assertive or a cuck

How do I keep a balance

>>38900758
How 2 find good senpai doc?

Just random?

>>38900791
desu I don't really have any idea

This is the first time I've had to look for a personal family doctor (the last one was my family doctor through adolescence / my family)

I'm hoping I get lucky because most of the practitioners in this new place seem on the younger side; hopefully they're more open minded because of that.

>>38900055

> More than one doc said that my T level of 150ng/dL - 250ng/dL (depending on the bloodwork) was normal and that only people with hypogonadism (below 100ng/dL) needed TRT.

was an exercise in futility for me. said fuck it and hopped on gear after researching shit myself.

>>38900791
you should try to jump through hoops rx trt during your early 20's in Canada where possession of steroids for personal use is not a crime and pay 3x as much to use 150 mg / week dosage of testosterone that will do absolutely nothing instead of blasting and cruising and getting actual results.

>>38900821
>pay 3x as much
my insurance covers fuckin everything

>>38900808
yeah same

Either my senpai purposely picked the worst docs or idk.

I'm gonna search new one

>>38900821
I suppose your right but I got 100% coverage on prescriptions and it'd be nice to be set for life with it

>>38900809
It's retarded

How do people get med degrees wtf

>>38900828
in that case, enjoy your universal healthcare, your androgel and having 800 ng/dl testosterone levels, faggot

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Damnit I keep getting pip from FLs test e. I don't know if I'm allergic to the carrier or what.

People give the postal service too much shit desu. Raws got from China to customs and cleared in 2 days.

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>>38900877
Probably because now its old and theoil has degraded.

Or because its test c
>that guy on reddit who threw out 10 vials because it didnt labmax as e before tgere were any bloods

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>>38900961

Is the method to see an endo in Canada the same as for other specialists?

Pretty sure I fucked my rotator cuff and my dumb GP isn't referring me to shit

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>>38900961
>theoil has degraded.
Hope not. It was from right before he shut down 99
>test c
Wait what, is it really?
>>38900999

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>have been on TRT for a year
>injecting 250-300mg testc a week, every week
>mfw starting to hate injecting
>mfw i realize i have to do this every week for the rest of my life

also why do I get this weird ass feeling in my chest and then cough after injecting
feels weird man

>>38901226
I doubt it's giving you PIP because it's degraded, but 8-9 month old gear, could be giving you PIP because it needs to be re-filtered.

>>38901245
just be glad you don't have to shoot dope errday senpai

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>>38901226

the cypionate ester itself is... oddly predisposed to pip pretty much no matter what compound it's attached to

>>38901245
>>injecting 250-300mg testc a week, every week

yeah that's not actually trt dosage unless you're a hilariously terrible responder

stop nicking veins right on top of the depot site and get some test u

>>38901259
>could be giving you PIP because it needs to be re-filtered.

huh?

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>>38901395
>compound it's attached to
I've never had a problem with pharma cyp but it's only brewed at 200mg/ml and probably less BA than he used.

>test u
Not him but I'm probably going to switch over to that soon. How did you brew yours? and what dose do you run it at?

god it just makes me giddy thinking about running test u because I travel spontaneously and I'd rather not bring roids if I didn't have to although I have in the past.

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>>38901442
>I've never had a problem with pharma cyp but it's only brewed at 200mg/ml and probably less BA than he used.

it's not the ba that's necessarily the problem, from what I've seen it's more likely to be due to the ester somehow having slightly shit solubility relatively speaking compared to enanthate, which means when somebody tries to brew it at the same concentrations as enanthate without taking measures to mitigate the solubility problem you're going to have a bad time

also pharma cyp is usually 0.9% ba and 20% bb

>How did you brew yours? and what dose do you run it at?

250mg/ml, 1% ba because why the fuck am I going to try and measure hundredths of mls instead of a nice round number, I think 15-20% bb, and safflower oil

a little thick but smooth as butter

So do you guys stop doing tren because supposedly the sides get worse over time or just set a time beforehand?

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reminder

fuckkkkk finallyyyyyy going awayyyyyyy

>>38900547

> Im just on hydrocodon

jelly af here

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>>38901690
face looking like quagmire.

>>38901598
>safflower oil
ah shit, yeah I forgot that I'd have to use a slower absorbing oil too. You pin it once a week?

>>38901690
i want to lick those firm shaven nodes

hnnnn

>>38901690
My wife's little sister had this happen to her when she was 16 and it ended up being some super rare cancer. Called esthesioneuroblastoma. Sleep well.

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>>38901626

little from column a, little from column b

>>38901759
>You pin it once a week?

before I started this blast yeah, but really you can get away with at least 2 weeks given it's got a 3 week half-life

End of second week test prop and tren ace. My arms could be considered lethal weapons at this now. How far with this go? Am I going to strip my clothes off in public and ask the crowd "Do u see? Do u see?" Like that dude in Red Dragon.

>>38901980
except mines getter better and not worse

>>38901994
Hows the sweat and lack of sleep treating you?

>>38901994
bf% out of curiousity that you're seeing changes like that on tren?

>>38902049
Getting 5-6 hours. No sweating when I sleep because I put a fan directly at my face. Sweating more during the day though. Feeling a little rapey also

>>38902095
21% high I know but seems all good considering

>>38902108
Also always thirsty

>>38902118
dude suck my dick. i am sub 15%, prob around 13% and i saw 0 changes on this bunk garbage tren... dropped it and a month later my strength has only continued to increase

contacted my source turns out it was part of a bunk batch... fuck my life.

at least he is replacing it for free

>>38902148
Sucks man at least your getting another chance. They weren't fucking around when they say u will know if your tren is real. This shit should be illegal. Oh wait

>>38900031
Where did you all do your first injection? Glute seems a touch odd (have to turn around to see what you're doing, nerve that paralyzes you if you inject into it). Is there any easier way?

>>38902209
Upper outer quadrant and your good. I have never had a problem with glutes. Just sayin

>>38902185
yeah i probably should have realized that before i ran it for 4 months all the while wondering if it's real.

it was tren E so I started injecting it while finishing up a DNP + psmf cut, so i attributed my increasing vascularity as i got leaner and leaner to the tren hahaha.

but then i dropped the tren a month ago and my vascularity is literally the same, so yeah fuck me.

tfw watching "Philadelphia" for the first time and crying at the end. think my estro is fucked, plz send AI.

>>38902262
U definitely need aromasin. I laughed at the end

>>38902262
I cried at mr robot today and that Amazon prime commercial with the dog and baby

>>38902307
more like letro at that point

>>38902245
How long can u run DNP?

>>38902314
What fucking part of Mr Robot made u cry? When Meryl Streeps daughter was double clicking her mouse?

>>38902321
idk how long you "can" but after around 50 days i got some pretty moderately bad PN and had to stop.

500mg at 2 weeks and 3 at 250

>>38902245
Tren e will drastically change your physique in as little as 1 month.

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Dosage for palmetto/pumpkin seed oil for preventing hairloss? Tabs vary from 100mg to 1.5g

>>38902336
When it's revealed he'd forgotten his sister and father? Anything parent related hits me hard.

>>38902574
>Anything parent related hits me hard.
Family problems?

>>38902552
Yeah tren ace going into third week is when I began to notice so that makes sense.

>>38900831

> It's retarded
> How do people get med degrees wtf

Seems to be a pretty taboo subject. Asked some of my medfag friends and they all said they don't learn about this kind of stuff or discuss it. If AAS are discussed at all it's only for purposes of muscle wasting diseases or some other extreme stuff.

I guess that's why when I looked up my local "anti-aging" clinics all the doctors were DOs (not MDs) with degrees from Caribbean med schools and interests in weird homeopathy shit.

>>38902574
I thought it ripped off fight club and was downright lazy writing. If he fucked his sister and she went with it without telling him that would be better

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what would a brosplit/ppl routine for a first time roider would look like?

>>38902108
>No sweating when I sleep because I put a fan directly at my face.

seeing as how you're not dead yet i'm guessing you're not korean

>>38902209

ventro glutes. don't have to turn around, no nerves, can take a lot of oil. also even if you get PIP in ventro glutes i've never found it debilitating enough to not be able to work out.

>>38902702
I have no idea why that would kill me. I fucked a South Korean once. Nope not Korean.

>>38902737
There's this whole "fan death" thing in Korea. Google it is pretty entertaining.

>>38902702
did you know that "fan death" was originally invented in korea when people would kill themselves and their family would try to not dishonor themselves?

so, instead of saying their kid killed himself, they'd say he died of fan death

it's not as funny when you know that

>>38902779
> did you know that "fan death" was originally invented in korea when people would kill themselves and their family would try to not dishonor themselves?

fuck, that's terrible. didn't know that was the origin.

when i was over there 15 years ago they would still report ppl dying of "fan death" on the nightly news. i was like wtf is this korscience

>>38902779
Thanks I learned something new today.

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>>38902209
Started with quads and stayed with them for 2 years and then started glutes and VG

VG is easiest /best IMO just lay on your side and pin. It seems like you'd hit your hipbone but you don't and I go all the way with a 1.5" needle.

>>38900031
How much do I eat while on test e 500mg per week, first cycle?

I ask because I'm a manlet and previous fattie. I'm confident I could eat enough to get fat. I was thinking I won't gain more than a pound a week right, so +500 kcal over tdee, maybe some extra to ensure? Or am I wildly off?

>>38902571
0mg

fina, 2x/day minox, 2x/week nizoral shampoo, 5000mg MSM, 5000mcg biotin

>>38903012
500 is good. If you don't mind cutting later you can always go higher.

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>>38902938
Stupid question but is it possible to not have a VG muscle?

Or have it not be big enough?

Like the size of that muscle in the guy of the below video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI_9RZidp1U

looks way bigger than my corresponding muscle.

Basically I am really paranoid that I'm going to hit my hip bone. What are disadvantages of 1" needles?

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>>38900146
i is right you on roids and still dyel af? Is it right you're ugly? Both are yes.

I don't care what you faggots think about my gf, she's perfect for me

>>38903176
never change

>>38903154
Lie on your side, find the iliac crest that is your highest land mark. Find the trochanter, large bony structure of the hip joint, that is your lowest landmark. Stay between those and closer to your ass. Can also find the pelvic crease and draw a line from that going towards the buttocks. Pretty difficult hit any bones that way. I use 1.5"(I got my draw and injection needles the same length for no reason lol) and haven't had problems. Though if I go too close to the trochanter I get major pip

>>38903131
>fina
My dick is broken enough already thanks

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>>38903199

save me from these heathens and their bodybuilding

>>38903244
>and closer to your ass

that's literally the opposite direction from where you want to be

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Will test make my willy bigger?

When people talk like this
>>38902552
is it all about the "tren look" that fades as soon as you come off it, or does it change you in any permanent ways?

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>>38900055
>19 yo
>sometimes going as low as 280 ng/dl
>doctor says it ok because I have low shgb and my free test is almost average
>mfw

1 more year as a natty and I start blasting that sweet test

>>38903667
why not just start now

>>38903671
Have to get money and have to get rid of gyno first

>>38903667
The only reason why they are so against trt is, well besides being assholes, is that no doc want to start an 19-29 year old on a lifelong treatment.
It's a selfish and protective move of them.
Oddly enough my doc does not prescribe me test but he is fine with getting my bloodwork and getting me Ai as needed

>>38903176
Is she on the pic? If not, can you post your gf?
Also it's needless to say that I'm mirin hard

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>tfw 4 weeks into a 3 gram power bulk and am already having second thoughts despite the gains

Not really sure why, its hoodie/winter season for the next 6-7 months so shouldnt be worried at all maximizing my muscles tll 2017 and scaring away all the NYRfags with my blasting gains while I start cutting

>>38903740
Yeah that's her. I am really happy with her. Nobody can decide my faith. Nobody can take away my happiness

>>38903272
You can do both sides. Nurses are taught to put the palm on the trochanter and inject between the thumb and index.

How do you guys cope with the permanent hormonal damage done after you've finished a cycle? How do you not lose all of your gains and become an amorphous, estrogenic blob?

>>38900117
Would they give a 20 yo an hgh rx? Axing 4 a frend (-:

>go off cycle
>relatively regular nosebleeding stops
What did the body mean by this?

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>>38903989
by not being fucking idiot

also, if smth goes wrong pic related is always and opinon

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>>38904164
it tries to stop u from leaving the humanity

>>38900877
I got an infection in my delt and VG from FL stuff.

Id be very careful if I were you.

>>38900671
Don't ever, ever go for Accutane until you try all the other acne treatments. It's dangerous for real and the risk of permanent side effects is unacceptable.

Hey /fraud/

Is test still virilizing to women if they take finasteride and/or dutasteride with it?

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>>38900456
>Where's yolo?
sup bby

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>>38904164
high bp causes nosebleeds

>>38904543
suspected bp but what can you do about it

>>38904612
i thought it stopped?

>>38904615
because I'm off cycle, meant what you could do about it while frauding

>>38904625
lower your salt intake
do more cardio

>>38904629
cool

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>>38904629
>lowerr your salt intake
no

>>38900055
Maybe your doctor is a feminist who thinks testosterone is toxic masculinity.

I had a skinny dyel doc once who's book shelf was full of vegan books and detox this and that.. honestly seriously worrying.. pay attention to what they keep around their office like that

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>>38904749
not sure if srs

>>38904758
Never seen a vegan cuck gp before?

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>>38903176
>i is right

I see the black is rubbing off on you.
I love when people type so emotionally they can't wait to hit that post button.

>>38900055
Thats because its within the normal range and doctors are there to treat disease not some bullshit faggot that blames his personal failures on 'muhh low test'. Treating you wit TRT to put you a little higher in the normal range would do absolutely nothing for your physique or feeling. Fucking Retard.
If you wanna blast roids go ahead but don't act like a hamplanet blaming their genetics.
TRT and using steroids with the intention to greatly increase muscle mass are two completely different things.

>>38900055
Listen to >>38904969 . I'm also sure you're just a bitch that thinks a little test will make you into a Superman.

Anybody have experience with gels like Androforte?

I may have "liberated" some from a party house last weekend, is it viable for gains?

Is this whole time off = duration of last cycle + PCT thing legit or is that just a meme.

I did a 16 week cycle followed by 2 weeks off followed by 4 weeks of PCT so 22 weeks all up and I don't really want to stay off for that long.

I finished PCT about 2 weeks ago and I'd like to be on cycle again by December so I can cut for summer (AUS). Kinda wish I just did B&C.

When on gear... lower reps/heavier weights or high reps?

I'm weary of stress on my joins by lifting heavy, and at the same time Rich Piana said that in his years using steroids, he found it better to go higher reps and get a "pump" burning, and that that gave him the best results.

At the same time with natty lifting, you HAVE to lift heavy or you won't get results, and I can't think that gear suddenly changes that rule, but I could be wrong.

Thoughts?

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>>38905061
eat it
if you dont get atleast hospitalized it dont work

works everytime, trust me

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>>38905097
you know the deal arleady senpai

ever wondered why the big guys in your gym lift with so little weights?

>>38905102
nice trip

>>38905095
it's not a meme and bncing works the same way, you still have to wait the duration of your previous blast on a cruise before you blast again

>>38905095
Meme, blood work will tell you when youre g2g again.

What benchmarks should I hit before getting on gear?
My numbers are going up, I'm gaining mass. Should I wait until that stalls out, or just order now?

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>>38905207
is there req lifts for roids to work?
why i didnt hear about this?
will i lose my gainz now?
holyshit senpai

>>38905207
It's well documented that gear simply doesn't work at all unless your lifts are 1/2/3/4 before you hop on. The gear knows about all of your lift numbers so you can't just lie to it.

>>38905116
so what's the ideal rep range? I really don't want to go searching through Rich's videos to see what he said (if he even said it).

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235 lb now guys.

10 more lbs to hit weight.

8 weeks out.

What is the closest thing to steroids that you can legally buy online?

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>>38905443
food
>>38905413
>ideal
w/e fgt just use some common sense
high reps arent 100 or 1 so choose urself a nice midway which isnt 50

>>38905443
I can buy steroids legally online here.

Otherwise, next best thing is still lgd-4033, better stacked with test than alone still, crushes shbg iirc.

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>>38904234
what is FL?

is it a brand?

>>38905461
>food
Thank you senpai.
After factoring out food, water, and supplements that the average, healthy male already consumes on a daily basis, what legal substance has the closest impact on muscle growth as steroids?
I'm trying my hardest to filter out the autistic answers without infecting myself with the disease. Please assist me.

>>38905418
holy fuck.

whats your stack.

i have seen you a few months ago, you made some sik gains breh

>>38905418
what is it with roiders to neglect their forearms this much?

it looks goofy having 14" forearms and buldging 19" guns

>>38905495
I've been considering lgd-4033. I'm a little hesitant to drop that much cash on something with so many conflicting anecdotes though.
Assuming you've taken lgd-4033, have you had any nasty side effects from it?

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>>38905501
the right awnser is steroids.

Bruh, I would want to tell u all sub-steroids market crap but i be honest with you. They're all scam, yes, scam. You won't get big with them. You will get big with food and roids

if u dont like my awnser feel free to go ebay and search 'test increasers' from ebay and buy all first 10results

>>38905512
Tren ace. 525 mg a week
Test prop 525 mg a week
Mast p 525 mg a week.
M-Bol 20 mg everyday
Clen 120 mcg (added in yesterday) everyday.

>>38905523
My forearms are actually 16 inches but when you turn them a certain way the angle makes them look much smaller.

I get that you probably don't even actually care about my forearms. I feel like you're the type of person who would criticize anything since they feel threatened or something.

Usually people who feel good about themselves say positive things not negative ones.

>>38905534
lgd sucks buy mk677

>>38905534
On it's own no sides apart from some lethargy in about week 6, seems to pick up after that though.

With test 500mg, estrogen sides hit a lot quicker/earlier than they ever did, other's bloodwork shows reduced shbg while on lgd and other sarms, so there must be more free test to aromatise if youre not on an ai.

libido is enhanced more on test + lgd than on test alone too, that could also be due to more free test.

lgd doesnt have to be expensive.

>>38905534
>>38905589
eg irc.bio's lgd powder + liquid kit to dissolve it in

>>38905554
that's such a stupid fucking post

test sucks, buy hgh

>>38905554
hey cap

>>38905534
I did one cycle with great results and no sides, besides the obvious test suppression

then I ordered from the same source for a second cycle 6 months later and got unknown bunk shit. gave me gyno and my balls remained their usual side (thus no suppression, or at least not significant) so I have no clue what it could have been.

definitely enjoying my gyno, would recommend

>>38905669
No understanding hormones of.

Besides, getting legit HGH is harder than a 4channers cock on anime night.

Hey, what do bodybuilders use levothyroxine use for? And how common is it?

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>>38905696
post gyno

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>>38905783
What is levothyroxine?
Levothyroxine is a replacement for a hormone normally produced by your thyroid gland to regulate the body's energy and metabolism. Levothyroxine is given when the thyroid does not produce enough of this hormone on its own.

Levothyroxine treats hypothyroidism (low thyroid hormone). It is also used to treat or prevent goiter (enlarged thyroid gland), which can be caused by hormone imbalances, radiation treatment, surgery, or cancer.

2sec in google

>>38905418
goal body right here

>>38905553
n-no.

you have read into it too much.
i just noticed that a lot of roiders neglect forearms, thats why i asked.

>Usually people who feel good about themselves say positive things not negative ones.

this is very true, but it wasnt meant in a negative way breh, just something i noticed.

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>people can do retarded shit like upright rows and lateral raises with thumbs down using heavyweight meanwhile my shoulder hurt if I sleep on it or sit at the compute too long

>>38905553
wew lad, deep down into the rabbit hole.

>clen

i thought you were smart enough to not do that.

>>38905770
what in God's name are you even trying to say

>>38905841
this.

when i see people doing lateral raises like that, or behind neck OHP or rear flys with ROM of Doom, it just buffles my mind how they have not fucked up their shoulders already.

I did flat bench overhead extensions with too much ROM (went way too low) and got an inflammation on my tendon from it, and i only did it for like a month, and had to skip gym for 2 months because of it.

only good thing was it was the perfect time to cut down for babbys first cycle

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>>38905841
Same with me
Been off Gym for 2 weeks now because of shoulder pain, fml

>>38905885
I can not even do the standard rotator cuff exercises with ONE KILOGRAM DUMBBELLS. I just do light ohp and pendlay rows at the end of every workout for healthy shoulders. works great

>>38905805
I know but I wanted to whether bodybuilders may use it.

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>post yfw when you heard that superhero costumes have surpasses princess costumes and girls will be dressing as harley quinn for halloween

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>>38905897
you're a retard

>>38905912
No, your mom is

>>38900031
Reminder that if you take vitamin b6 10 times a day it's roids without the side effects

>>38905896
are your rotator cuffs just weak or do you have an injury?

i mean when i had the inflammation i couldnt to rotator cuff exercises either, but now i can and they are essential.

light ohp and pendlay rows wont do shit for your rotator cuffs brah, its a waste of time and wont give you "healthey shoulders".

I miss Izzy very much

>>38906022
it is only my right one that have ever bothered me. my clavicles are uneven btw. From what I've read it is probably just the supraspinatus has very little room to move in so it easily get pinched

>>38905907
>harley quinn
>superhero not villain

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>tfw winter is coming and you can start hiding all your winter bulk under your winter clothes

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>>38906075
>homemade chicken nuggets

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>>38906069

>>38906107
>14
>2 chokers indicating professional dick sucker

kids these days

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>>38906115
>14
uhm no lol, that girl is more like 12

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>>38906115
u didnt get ur dick sucked when u were 14

thats why this post, right?

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>>38906134
>cant believe ill be 19 in few weeks

>>38906115
11*

man why the fuck is buying bitcoin this much of a hassle.

>first finding a website that doesnt have a mf 100$ limit per week.
>then finding a website that doesnt take 5% away from your bitcoins because of fees or some sht
>then actually sending the money takes mf 3 days just because its friday
>feel like im not even going to receive my bitcoins anyways


i just want to be big ffs

>tfw buff, timid and shy
I'm pretty sure I appear ridiculous to others

>>38906161
>tfw buff, ugly and manlet
I'm pretty sure I appear overcompensating to others

>>38904952
I don't care anymore. Good for you

>>38905418
mirin hard, really good.

Arms look huge and you looked ripped crazy. I am mad jelly

FUCK I MISSED THE >>38888888
I literally waited like a week and then I fell asleep

>>38906158
>using bitcoins for roids
lmao

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>>38906195
>using bitcoins for roids
expand

>>38906195
use western union, don't order domestic, and get arrested ftw

>>38906209
I bet you're one of the autists using darknet marketplaces too

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>>38906218
>don't order domestic

>>38906158
tfw cash on delivey to postman

>darknet test gave me pip
>sst test doesn't
really makes you think

>>38906376
darknet is crims, sst is bros who care about their roids.

>>38906407
Sst is underdosed as fuck. I could never in my life run +700mg tren unless I went to jail for rape/murder. The dreams alone on that shit would put me in international court for genocide. Yet everyone and their mother are on those doses on Reddit.

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>>38906551
I doubt it's intentional. The raw sources push out shitty purity raws and most of the sources don't do any type of testing for presence let alone purity.

It's pretty shitty all around given they could order a kilo of tren and send a damn sample to jano for €60 and know whether or not it's good.

>TFW everyone ITT is a newfag now and nobody remembers the names of legends like FatLifts and Batlord

I got a fuckton of DBol left but I'm running a high tren/low test cycle. Any point of throwing it in there?

IK the effects are kind of the opposite look-wise but would there still be extra gains or would my liver just shut down?

>>38906551
some are bad but many are really top notch. People just look for the cheapest source that carries only Test and then wonder why their gear is bad quality

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>>38903971

towards the anterior superior iliac crest

which is the exact opposite direction from "toward your ass"

but hey just keep digging it deeper, you might hit china at this rate

>>38903989

gr8 b8

>>38906195
>>38906218
>>38906220
>>38906551

welp you've legit got no idea what you're talking about

>>38906551
>underdosed
>literally tons of bloodwork posted there
>my own bloodwork is comparable

>>38906650
Fl posts daily and people comstantly roll for his gf are you blind

>>38906686
>fl
>gf
Nahhh breh you must be jostling me cuz no way FL is still alive after daily grams of dnp

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>>38906024
i feel you breh

>>38906668
the 4 posts you quoted are unrelated to each other lol

2 calling out sst and 2 calling out darknet markets

strong autism

>>38906701
Rolling so he can acquire gf to be more eloquent

>>38906736
That's fucking disgusting looking

Man, I thought FL was in prison for distribution of schedule 3 controlled chemicals. Is he out?

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>>38906765
someone's jelly

>>38906619
Test E very easy to purify if you need to, that said because of that its probably high purity from all raws anyway. Dont know the properties of tren e, so not sure how you'd want to go about purifying the raw.

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>>38906750
post pics

my dick is hard again

>day 3 of 21 day dnp cycle at 250mg
>tfw youre the only one on campus in a t shirt
>tfw its friday and you cant get fubar

>>38900031
I had only one cycle. Now I'm very busy for at least 10 months and probably won't have time to visit gym very often.

My question: Should I do my second cycle even if I won't visit gym that often or rather wait 10 months natty? Will the gains from wourkoutless cycle be permanent (i.e. saved to "muscle memory") or this only happen when I workout regularly while on gear?

Thanks!

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>>38906810
>fubar
short form of "Fucked up beyond all recognition"
???

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>>38906825
the idiocy is sometimes beyond control

To you first question. Yes, you should cruise.
Dont pin in ur brain so u dont ask stupid questions like your second one

>>38906551
Have you considered that you're a bitch?

>>38906810
tfw it's friday

time to play wow and then sit here staring blankly at a wall all weekend doing nothing

>>38901690

>check tinder match bio
>trans
we all gonna make it bros

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>second day of 500mg dnp
>already yellow eyes

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Perhaps I should've asked someone on here.
>>38906867

tl;dr prednisone and lifting. Am I going to fuck my shit up?

>shitty fucked up teeth
>they are pretty straight but as a retarded kid i ground a few into fangs
>i only ever lightly smile/laugh without showing teeth because of it and so people think i am boring

reee

3 and a half weeks into first blast (500mg yest/week) and I just got 3 massive cystic pimples on my chest. What do now? Is accutane my only option with cysts?

AI has been 12.5mg asin since 4th pin, don't notice any other major sides besides oily skin.

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>>38907079
post em

>>38907108
they don't look bad on camera only in real life somehow

Canadian /frauds/ where do you get liver shit like TUDCA? Pretty sure none of it is illegal but for wherever reason I can't find it anywhere. You would think the local Popeyes would have something for your liver but all they have is meme herbal pills

>>38907020
I always feel bad for people with bad sides. Only sides I got were heat and a minor rash when I went up to 750mg

>>38907079
lets see that shit

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>>38907130
if ppl think ur boring cuz u laugh/smile(cuz teeths) they got bigger problems than u will ever have anon

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>>38907108
>>38907134
they look way whiter and less fucked up on camera than when i see them in the mirror, i have no idea why

whitening them now so that should help but still their shape is fucked up bad
>>38907240
no cuz i only ever barely smile or laugh cuz i don't wanna show my shitty ass teeth

>>38907257
Not that big of a deal, just tell people you were born with fucked up teeth if they ask

>>38907257
anon your teeth are fine, if you think those are fucked up then you clearly haven't been to the UK

>>38907257
Yea I wouldn't even talk to you with those fucking chompers

>>38907297
this

ESTP, some images off yourself to make my dick diamonds?

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>>38907257
dat pepsodent smile

like wtf u even thinking senpai

>>38907426
i wasn't smiling i was trying to show my teeth as much as possible wtf

that would be like a retard down syndrome smile LMAO

>>38907257
fuark where the fuck are you drom? I thought even third world countries had dentists. pls get new teeth, thats just so fucking gross. Can you ever imagine a girl actually kissing your lips when they can see whatthefuck is going on behind these lips.

>>38907296
>>38907297
>>38907392

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>>38907284
>>38907447

so which is it, fuck

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Where's yolo?

Dammit yolo! Post jb pls!

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>>38907459

>>38907257
Not that bad m8.
My teeth are more fucked. (To poor for braces)
And I smash all the time.

>>38907502
Self service doesn't count m8

>>38907512
>Self service doesn't count m8
Naw. Even if I could, I wouldn't let teeth like mine anywhere near My dick.

>>38906668
ASIC for VG, TYA for DG

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>>38906738

and yet all of them have the same thread of not knowing what the fuck they're talking about running through them

>>38906803

look here's another one

please pray tell, how exactly do you think it's easy to purify raws outside of industrial scale organic chemistry labs

>>38907067

prednisone, and corticosteroids in general, are the fucking devil

>>38907531

well I guess you found your shovel

but hey if we were even talking about dorsogluteal injections you might actually be right, although how fucking hard is it to say "upper outer quadrant"

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>>38906803
>Test E very easy to purify
Maybe so but there isn't a single ugl source who does that nor do they care. You're not going to find them trying to precipitate off random ass contaminants or however else you'd do it. They just go "oh well the bloods show ~5x the injected level so I don't care" or "maybe you're just a poor responder".

>>38907568
Everybody bow down to this expert.

>internal restructuring has eliminated my position
>want to get drunk
>accutane
>eating golden oreos & drinking milk instead

thanks for reading
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>>38906840
Close. Its fucked up beyond all repair.

>>38907800
so you're now jobless?

sucks, dude

Is MK-677 legal and will it boost my height?

>>38907863
yes legal

maybe to height. only if your growth plates haven't fused yet. if you're actually of legal posting age on 4chan, they most likely have

>>38907833
at least I've got four full vials of test

>>38907881
I turned 18 few months ago and haven't grown an inch since I was 14, does that mean I'm completely fucked?
please no I don't want to be japanese height for life

>>38907800
This, finally download tinder and I only match with "chubby" girls (too fat for me) who just want to meet up and get drunk

It's bad for my macros and I'm on Accutane reeeee

>>38907895
if your growth plates have fused then yes, you are. unless you want to get a negroplasty

>>38907926
How do I know if they've fused?
Tried talking to doctors but they just did hormone level checks instead of x-raying.

>>38907863
It won't, the length it possibly could add is so small its not relevant.
Let me.clear up the common misconception that a lot of people post on fit these days. There are several.hormones involved in growth.
In puberty the main hormones for growth are test for males and estro for females (yes it closes the plates too, but increasing the levels after puberty has started will result in higher end length, starting it before or in early phase of puberty the final height will be decreased) Growth hormone is mainly effective before puberty and even then treatments only extend height by a maximum of 2cm per year for a full year of treatment. And that's with using pharma GH..

You can always try and it certainly won't impact your height negatively, but don't get your hopes up too high. If you ask me your best bet would be to run test at level that's on the higher end of normal alongside mk677.

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>>38905498
someone answer me this niggers

>>38906407
SST people can exit scam, and darknet there's escrow...and their both criminals

>>38905498
>>38908384
dont let the door hit you on the way out, newfag