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>>38885078
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>>38885078

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>>38893511
Why the fuck would you roid for that? Easily attainable natty if you gave it a few years (3 years).

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>>38893531

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>>38893559
rit bb

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Do you actually experience any mental changes from taking test? Some people say you do and others say only tren changes your mental state.

There is basically no way my shit gets seized if i buy from a shengen country and live in a shengen country right?

>shengen what?

I live in germany and want to buy from NL, both Eu (shengen) countries.

>>38893606
As someone with low test (300ng/dl) who is now 6 weeks into a blast of 500mg test-e / week, the mental gains have been significant for me (bare in mind some of these are probably placebo)

>much more confident, i feel like i belong, i keep my head up when i walk rather than look at the ground, i notice i have much more open and confident body language
>feel like i can hold my own in a fight (even though if it came to it i'd almost certainly lose), much less willing to take shit, if someone is staring at me in the gym i'll stare back at them (rather than looking down or away like i used to)
>sky high libido, rock solid morning wood, random erections throughout the day, feel the urge to dominate/have rough sex rather than lovey-sensual crap
>lower inhibition, whether it's riding my bike or messaging a girl, i'm more likely to take risks and i don't second-guess myself

>>38893621
in4 being s k e e z y

>>38893606
overall the mental changes from test comes from the gains, but there are a few small things most people dont notice.

>in the morning you get up immediately instead of falling back into your bed over and over again
>you will talk to hot girls and feel comfortable
>speaking in a room full of people that are listening to you wont be so awkward anymore
>overall optimistic attitude throughout the day
>being more calm and chill when someone is being shit to you

thats what i noticed atleast, it cured some percecnt of my social autism.

I do things now that would be awkward for me a year ago.

But then again, im fekeen huuge now so that plays a role too.

>>38893650
are literally all trips here this useless?

everytime i ask something its some anons giving decent advice and all the trips here seem to be blogging roiding piece of shits who look absolute shit on top of that too, except this masT guy

>>38893658
>are literally all trips here this useless?
most are

>>38893667
he was talking about you, dumb nigger

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>>38893693
lol, allrightythen

people always say buy pharma asin, but how do you actually know your shit is pharma?

Im not deep into the rabbit hole to know which brand is pharma and which isnt.

Also lotta UGL brands have "pharma" in their name, so im getting confused

>>38893645
makes me wanna hop on at 20 just for these mental gains

>>38893531
dat hairline tho

Is there anything I can do about my shoulders getting pumped to fuck and becomeing extremely painful whenever I work them more than a little?

>>38893785
go for it bro, you can only win
dont go overboard though at 20.

just do test to stay safe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQEXQFrBUy0
Broscience Busted: Do Steroids Increase Protein Requirements
By Layne Norton

>>38893828
well if i hop on i'll be b&cing, and i'd more than likely throw another compound in second blast

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>crippling depression is back again
>cutting ez mode because no appetite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUTvaU5fXO4

>>38893832

Layne also still claims natty. And needing more vs being able to use more. It's a fact that you can use more. But you won't need more.

>>38893621
from what I can see, there's no customs duty to pay for intra-EU shipping. I can't tell whether they still go through actual customs though. if they do, that's where you get fucked.

>>38893775
by buying from an online pharmacy

>>38893832
I can't watch the video as I'm at work but I really doubt the description you're giving us.

testosterone increases muscle protein synthesis, period. more protein is used/needed on cycle for sure. the only argument I could think of is natties already consuming more than they can use

So does everyone here blast and cruise? Any that don't plan to be on indefinitely?

>>38893883

They do go through customs sometimes. But it's rare.

I've had 1 small package seized months ago. But that's 1 in 40+ or something.

>>38893883

Need more =/= can use more. That's probably just it.

Layne strikes again through technicalities and calls it science.

can i just use my email to register on a roids site?

obviously none of my information is given there, but still

Fat and brick where to get crimper for cheapest?

>>38893906
>>38893883

wait if they go through customs, thats an immediate 100% bust?

people buy from oversea and dont get busted, NL is literally a neighbour country

>>38893852
you can do that, but wait it out.
See how you do on test alone, if everything is fine, get bloods done etc.
If its BnC for you, do that for a few months before you even consider getting another compound. Dont be like the other retards here, who die in saunas and stuff like that.

>>38893906
was it roids that got seized?
did buy in and from shengen countries?

What did you do after that. You cant just buy again and hope all goes well right?

>>38893951

It's not.

Going through customs is not the same as getting inspected.

>>38893976

I didn't even die from 3g of dnp. A sauna only kills the weak.

>>38893906
1 in 40 of your own packages or 1 in 40 packages that go through the customs.

Second choice would be a lot

>>38893990

AI. Few packs of letro, nothing big.

It's Schengen btw, your typo is bothering me.

And it wasn't to my own address so no idea.

>>38893998

1 of mine, obviously. I have no inside source telling me exactly how much they inspect.

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>>38893860
Maybe u are depressed cuz of low T
get it? low T while roiding hahahaha im so funny u might as well kill me

Hmm... 18... should...I?

>>38894093
I'm 19 and planning to soon

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>>38894093
if you come ask /fraud/ if u should roid or not u might as 1x1 neck urself

>home searched by police in early june
>found a few vials
>haven't heard anything since
>2 months left of my military service

praise jesus if they dont do anything about it until im done with my service

>>38894200
1: why was it searched
2:was it searched while you were at home or nah?
3: why didnt you remove the stickers from the vials you dumb nigger.

>>38893925
answer me niggers, is it okay to use some random email for roid website?

im asking because they somehow dont accept my encrypted email adress

>>38894222
1) 1 of 13 packages got seized from customs
2) mom and dad was home
3) they found vials, needles, ai

removing the stickers wouldn't do shit, i was just too dumb to leave my stash in my room

>>38894230
yes m8 i just use gmail

>>38894230

Impossible to be sure.

Had it been retarded to do so you would have had a response by now.

>inb4 v&.

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>>38894230
what kind of website u need ur email? they gonna spam ur email with special discounts? lmao

So I'm coming off after a year B&C and I want to taper down before PCT to minimize sides.

Any recommendations on dosage and time?

I'm on 200mg test e

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>>38894259
1: what country do you live in?
2: did you buy oversea or domestic?

getting fucking scared of all these seizures here.
not because of police or some shit, but because you wont be able to buy roids again

i have read pic related on eroids.com.

if a source makes your package trackable, it is not send the stealthy way right?

>>38894280
they dont need it but they said everything will be processed faster if you are registered

Is Bill Roberts just another meme Jason Blaha tier?

He thinks 2wks on 4wks off are worth it and 8week cycle of 1g test and 50mg tren is good first cycle... is he just trolling or what?

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>>38894324
why/how it would be faster, wtf?
u using onion not some scammy easyroidz.biz site?

>>38894309
Norway, been ordering oversea for over a year now, 20 ish packages total from 2 different sources.
1 got seized in march and they searched my home in june.

Ordering only domestic now, although the price is 4 times as much

>>38894342
i dont use onion or some .biz site.

but that doesnt matter because i know that site is defo legit.

whatever im just going to buy without registering, too much hassle

>>38894350
oh thats good to hear.
i mean, good because you bhought from a famous roid busting country + oversea, meaning there was already a higher risk than normal.

yeab buy domestic bro, the money you save with oversea shipping isnt worth the trouble

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>>38894354
ur friend has used it and confirmed legit?
if not. do me a favour and use onion desu

>>38893938
You're not going to get much cheaper than like 140 before shipping. Try medlabsupply.

>>38894306
very stupid post my man

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>>38894403
your was very insightful and added alot of value to the convo

>>38894401
I saw some Chinese site selling 1 for $80 should I trust it?

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>>38894433
If u giving free money I can take it senpai

>>38894433
Not entirely sure, I wouldn't bother though.

>>38893667
Dammit yolo! Post jb pls!

>>38894331
answer dis

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>>38894496
keep the drive live famalam

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>>38894507
do it faggot

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>>38894331
> 2wks on 4wks off are worth it
dont fall for this ridiculous shit please

>>38894387
no not that.

trust me bro, i know 100% that site is legit for various reasons.

just saying that masT buys from there since years

>>38894403
>people don't taper off
>lol sides who cares

Sorry I don't like being a moody bitch or having masT tier acne all over my body.

Need to cut down 15 lbs by December 15th. But Ive got crazy body dismorphia so I don't wanna cut at all. Moving to a cruise right now. Gonna cruise for a month or so (175 test E maybe 100 deca for joints) and then blast tren var and eq to look sexy for my vacation.

Good idea? How should I prep for this. I wanna be lean and veiny af.

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>>38894544
just dont come cry here that u've been injecting vegetable oil for 16week

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Yo what up fags. I used to frequent fit and fraud but have been gone for a year or so. Just wanted to say thanks for the motivation and information. I made some slight improvements to my body.
>inb4 roiding for this.

Pics incomming. Far right ones from nov 2014 I think

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>>38894592
Current shape

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>>38894567
dnp for 2weeks and ur good senpai

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>>38894602
>>38894592
cut and ur good

>>38894603
I remember your run - what was it 500mg for 21 days on like 800kcal? I've tried dnp but I want to eat the world on it. Did EC help?

>>38894544

>masT buys from there since years

MasT, we all recognize your dunglish by now. Pls stop posting as anon.

>>38894603

Gib routine and before after stats etc pls.

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>>38894643
>>38894675
not me in pic.
saved it for proof that its very effective drug compared for ec/clen

>>38894699
u have his log on hand?

i myself have dropped ~33 lbs in 50 days with it. ran it at 250mg for around 20 days and 500mg for two or three weeks, the rest was without dnp.

>>38894553
>taper off from 200mg

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>>38894730
I would post it with the pic if i had.
soz senpai

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damn
That troll mas t was right

>>38894746
yea just curious

a shame i can never touch that shit again unless i am on break from college. i did it during the summer too (lol). during that run i did some heavy ass yard work and literally lost consciousness when i got back inside the house from what felt like hypoglycemia, not sure though. think i almost died

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>>38894699

I remember one dude that did dnp for 3 weeks as skinnyfatlooking and came out as endoffiteclub Brad.

No idea how long this took, but he's still got that sad look on his face.

>>38894603
thanks for posting this. time to hop on dnp again and lose another 10kg

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>>38894780
if u have had ever used dnp u would know it is far from happy drug

>>38894810

I have. It's fun when it's cold out otherwise it's hell.

>>38894780
i'm this guy...
>>38894771
god fucking shit this makes me want to run dnp again so bad, but i don't want to be sweating my ass off in class... it's already bad enough on just an ECA stack and psmf.

i ran it during college once and i would sweat through a shirt in a couple seconds literally, and one time i wore a hoodie and SWEAT THROUGH A FUCKING HOODIE. Managed to do it with a thick ass winter jacket too for lels

>>38894821

Iktf.

I usually bring 2 extra shirts when I need to be indoors or when it's over 10c out.

>>38894093
As long as you aren't holding out for any late growth spurts go for it.

i just read saw palmetto reduces estro, not just dht

is this true

>>38894840
people say it increases metabolism/TDEE by like 55% at 500mg crystal. I find that to be complete bullshit. It has to be WAYYYY more than that, wouldn't you agree?

Even on a psmf, I am not losing fat at 1/3 the rate I was losing it on DNP and fuckloads of calories of shitty junk food

>>38894306
I don't have the answer. I just wanted to say fuck the other guy that replied to you, this is a valid question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWWf1k7reJI
lmmaaoooooo, check when he meets a fattie

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>>38893531
>>38893511
Why don't you post a picture of yourself in the same lightning to see how big and shredded you look. No flexing, no pump.

I still can't understand how you think you have something against me. And still posting pictures from other people to prove your point. Not feeling the cringe, holy shit

>>38894888
mast u ever use dnp?

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>>38894888
masT in the hoods
Nobody has nothing against u desu
Everybody would love to have dad like u

lmao he is so mad, the roid rage is unreal I wonder when he is gonna beat up his gf because he is so mad lmao

>>38894888
What was your first cycle bb?

>>38894905
She'd probably like it. You don't date a huge bodybuilder because you like to be treated like a delicate flower. Lol

>>38894905
who even gets roid rage from test and mast?

also mast why do you avoid tren if you run mast anyway, since that will fuck your hairline probably even worse than tren if you're disposed to it right?

How do you avoid acne? And when do you start running Accutane?

>>38894932
always shower after you've been sweating, don't let the sweat dry on your body

start whenever you get a breakout, i'm only on 5mg EoD and it's working well so far

>>38894874
sick muzzing at 1:39 lol

>>38894743
I get sides at 150, so yes, I want to take it as gradual as possible. 200 I get nothing which I don't understand but whatever

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>>38894905
Fucking mad af. I'am gonna beat up every dyel i see from now on. Fuck you all. I am so full of rage right now, i can't even

YOU WANNA SEE ME REALLY MAD, LOOK AT THIS PIC. This is how i look being mad

>>38894921
mast + test

>>38894904
I wanna have sex with you

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If i looked like this natty at 230 lbs, what kind of potential do I have on the jewss

>>38894985
what makes you use masteron, as opposed to something else like tren?

>>38894924
This is true. And I'm not even huge.

Every girl that's into me recently wants me to literally rape them.

> 2000 + 16
> still injecting steroids
> not going to China and paying some doctor to edit you genes to give you a myostatin deficiency
you guys are literally never going to make it

>>38893645

i was lower than you... in the 100-200ng/dL range. docs i saw still wouldn't prescribe TRT. going to one of those "male rejuvenation" clinics would be more expensive than just gearing on my own, so i hopped on.'

for low T ppl the so-called mental or non-physical gains are real. a lot of low T symptoms like lethargy, low/non-existent libido, low confidence, depression, etc go away or are at least significantly relieved.

as ppl have said, in the morning i don't have trouble getting out of bed (even if i got shitty sleep), i'm much more confident (i both feel i can hold my own against others, but also feel more calm/chill when others are being shit, and i speak my mind more confidently but also in a more peacefully assertive manner rather than being bitchy), i don't feel uncomfortable talking and acting myself, get boners all the time like i'm 16 and sky high libido and sexual confidence, more decisive (whereas i used to have a perfectionism problem) and okay with a "good enough" approach to get things done, usually more optimistic and rebound more easily from setbacks.

>>38895009
are you 8 feet tall

>>38894985
Have you used mast+test ever since?

>>38895009
there's a 0% chance of that being 230 pounds

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>>38895025
>>38895031
I'm 6'2". Was a shotputter in college and got up to 290, then I cut for a year and a half.

Redpill me on BnCing test-e

>>38895009
How tall are you to be 230lb that lean

>>38895045
kys

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>>38895041

>>38894200

what kind of luxury / weak ass military service are you doing where you get to go home?

>>38895031
>>38895025
Lol manlets

I was 240 and looked way worse than that.

Tallbros look like monsters IRL and manlets look better in pictures where you can't tell that they're of similar stature to children.

Not sure when people will finally understand this.

>>38895078
Isnt masT less than 220lb and he is twice your size.

How big are your arms?

>>38894306

i got this tapering schedule from somewhere (i forgot where):

Week 1 - 100mg Test E
Week 2 - 100mg Test E
Week 3 - 75mg Test E
Week 4 - 50mg Test E
Week 5 - 50mg Test E & 40mg/Nolva/Day
Week 6 - 25mg Test E & 30mg/Nolva/Day
Week 7 - 20mg/Nolva/Day
Week 8 - 10mg/Nolva/Day

this guy was doing 100mg Test-P EOD and 100mg MasT EOD. For tapering down he used Test-E.

not sure how he came up with this shit or whether it's effective.

Ok so /fraud/ if one wants to cycle nowadays. Is it actually worth doing 'cycles' as opposed to cruise'nblast. Or should one either CNB or not roid at all?

>>38895100
like 18"

legs: http://i.imgur.com/UpE55u6.png

>23y old, 6'0 @ 183lbs 15% bf
>1/2/3/4 for a few reps

am I ready to roid ?

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>>38895144
we arent ur parents desu

What is a fair price to pay for 10ml vial of test Cyp UGL?

>>38895154
ye we r

>>38895144
go 2 ur room u r grounded son

>>38895141
Damn, how long lifting and routine?

You look better than 95% of the roiders on here.

>>38895100
Because mast is a midget obviously

>>38895175
I trained for shot put, so upper/lower/rest/upper/lower/rest/rest for most of the year. Periodized with volume in the offseason building towards lower volume higher intensity in season. Did that for about 8 years on permabulk, then I started cutting when my eligibility was up after college.

>>38895192
Fair enough then, strong athletic background 8 years of bulking holy fuck.

>>38895144
cut to 10% then blast away brah

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>>38894862

No. It's about right. But it also increases fat metabolism and blocks carb uptake somewhat iirc.

So not only is TDEE up, 1 carb is no longer really 4kcal.

I mean, we're damaging metabolism here.

That. And it slows down our Thyroid, so if THAT takes longer...

I'm getting used to less than 1k kcal a day atm. Once I can keep that up with no cravings i'm adding 600 dnp and 50 t3.

My goal isn't far off. And I'm trying to get that bulking/cutting shit out of my head as well.

I want to look like a slightly leaner me from 3 years ago. And then just get stronger.

It's way more fun looking just regular ripped and athletic while you outlift those who are 30+lbs heavier and look huge.

Stealthfit > NOTICEMESENPAI fit.

>>38894985
But where was traps and legs

You are the mascot for chesty mcbiceps

Honestly never seen traps that look so small and you never show your wheels cuz they small aye?

>>38895100

Mast is +- 180cm and lifts for size. This guy is 185-190 and lifted for sports.

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>>38893511
As a fatty that is still a novice, would the best course of action be to wait until I run out of beginner gains before starting steroids?

>>38895238

>how can our lifts be real when our traps aren't real

You had a chance...

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>>38895238
still bigger than urs

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>>38895285

This makes me sad.

Next time just post some sandnigger getting tortured. That only triggers lefties

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First cycle coming soon, what do I do if I start losing hair? What are good preventative measures? Fina scares the shit out of me, already have boner problems

Hair/hairline is identical to dad's who has thick hair at 70, but mum's side are all balding by ~40

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>>38895338
you know very well what to do

>>38895285
that pic made me gigle 8/10

>>38894093
I hate kids so much sometimes.
"Yea, I'm still growing and my body develops, so let's turn it all upside down because I can't push my limits to the max and then roid if I'm not satisfied!".
I can tell you're a weakling with self-esteem problems that wants to hop on as fast as possible, thinking it will fix the fundamental problem with your attitude and disregard for future consequences.
Wait at least 3 years, working hard meanwhile, and then decide.

>>38895261
I thought masT was 6ft, this guy is 6ft2 not that much difference.

>>38894590
>vegetable oil
Whoa, that's in the best case. Most likely it's some gutter oil shit.

Do you have to give suppliers your full name? I have an extremely unique name so I'm pretty apprehensive about giving it to suppliers. Should I give a slightly fake name?

>>38895599
As long as they get the right address.

>>38893621
Der Zoll schreibt dicke Rechnungen für Anabolika.

Babbys first cycle wasn't as expensive as I thought it would be, like 140$ for Test e and Nolva just in case. Wish me luck bros.

>>38895338
saw palmetto and pumpkin seed oil are doing the exact same thing as fina and they saved masT's hair, but they are just oils and not boner killing drugs like dutas or fina.

take them orally, in pill form

Also other stuff you can do is Castor oil applied to your scalp. But you said you have full hair currently so you dont need it

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If I'm only homebrewing a small amount do you think I should get a 50ml vial and use syringe filter to filter it all into there and then use 10ml syringes to transfer it to the vials? I guess it would cause less damage to each stopper.

Any input? I have a bottle top filter but it's 250ml and I'm only doing 2 50ml batches.

Anyone from the UK here? Is there any risk of getting into legal trouble ordering online?

>>38895662
get AI as well

>>38893511
>>38893511
>>38893511
IS THAT MASTEST

WTF???

>>38895678
literally none
the only thing that is illegal is selling in the UK

>>38895683
Yeah I'm getting some pharma Arimidex, thanks for the reminder man.

Hey guys I asked this 2 threads ago but the thread got archived immediately after I posted.

I'm starting a test/tren cycle, aiming for as much lean mass as possible, eating completely clean.

Question : How much weight should I gain weekly max? 1.5 pounds? 2 pounds?

Last cycle I was gaining 5 pounds a week (muh dreambulk) and gained excessive fat, don't want that to happen again. (Although that cycle was just test-e)

I know this depends on many factors, I'll be monitoring the mirror and definition obviously, and adjust my diet accordingly, I just want a ballpark number so I can work my way from there.

Planning to go high tren/low test for my next cycle, any changes I need to make to my diet/routine compared to a regular test cycle?

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>http://www.ergo-log.com/scarred.html

just 30mg d-bol and 250mg test-e?

shieet mane

>>38895743
try lifting this time

>>38895741
I'd shoot for about 500 cal above maintenance. You can adjust it up or down from there.

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>>38895690
its all meme lighting

>>38895767
He looks really short here, does he lie about his height?

>>38895731
>spend months stressing over every detail of my first cycle
>this guy "forgets" to order AI
fuck me

Why the fuck would ghrp-6 increase appetite immediately but another GH releasing drug like mk-677 not work instantly? People on reddit on specifically have many reports of being hungry the first day.

>>38895807
it does

okay so i heard that most people get acne from pct.

Started BnC just 2 days ago, will i still get acne?

doing test only atm

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>>38895783
of course not

>>38895833
Probably a little. It's your body reacting to changes in hormone levels. It is usually proportional to how big the change is.

>>38895743
With a tren bulk remember to eat a fuck ton

>>38895759
Kek.
Some people are just unfortunate.

Also, I'm not big on sterons, but I find Anavar to have interesting qualities. Yes, it is weaker than typical steroids, but the anabolic:androgenic ratio is incredibly positive, is available in oral form that does not fuck with your liver like typical alkylated compounds. Plus, doesn't get aromatized, so no worries about estrogenic sides.
Therefore, is it worth to try as a sole compound cycle? Especially that I don't give a fuck about looking super-shredded, just want that bonus edge?

What does it mean when a source asks

> please mail us how many bitcoins you have wired after you have paid

>>38895802
Luckily I could find AI really cheap so what's the problemo phamalam?

>>38895891
I'm not sure. Probably so that they can verify who sent what.

>>38895865
no

it's still suppressive

>>38895891
please answer. i know how to buy and send bitcoins, but what does THAT mean?

>>38895891
As in, after you send the BTC, contact them with the BTC amount you sent, i.e. 0.5628 BTC.

>>38895891
>>38895912
how is it confusing in any way?

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I recently got some pre-cycle bloodwork done, and I'm a little concerned about some of the results... Can you guys take a look and give me some second opinions? My high bilirubin and alkaline phosphatase levels have me worried about my liver. Also, should I be concerned that my FSH and LH levels are so far toward the bottom end of the spectrum? I expected them to be a little higher. Any and all advice would be appreciated. Thanks!

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>>38895946

Rest of bloodwork

>>38895930
>>38895917

It is confusing for me because i dont understand how they can not know how much bitcoin they have received.

>>38895759
>"30 mg dianabol a day and twice a week 250 mg testosterone-enanthate. [In fact the guy probably took much more, if you ask us – Ed.] "

>>38895962
imagine if you went to your banking account website and all you saw in the name/description column was a bunch of random numbers

how would you know where the money is going/where it's coming from?

your name and email aren't linked to your btc account

>>38895802
>lol this
I have read and readjusted so much and for so long before even thinking about ordering anything. And then some people Google 'steroid cycle' read for 15 mins and go ahead and order.

>>38895962
They do know. But if they have a drag like free shipping at 200, everyone is going to be sending them roughly 200 in bit coin.

If the get three anonymous transfers of 200, and four orders of ~200 they aren't going to know which one is the one who didn't pay.

If you tell them the exact amount they can match your payment to your order.

>>38896014
It's still the same shit though right? Some people "just do it" and others "just think it".

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spent £89.99 on wheel of fortune app 2 days ago and I've already used the 10,000 in game diamonds that I bought up.

I told myself today that I wouldn't spend more money on wheel of fortune but I bought £1.79 worth of diamonds earlier and then when they ran out I did another £1.79 then another and another. Literally now buying £45 worth of in game diamonds. I can't fucking stop myself

so far today I've spend over £20 worth of £1.79 transactions and spent about 6 hours lying on my bed playing it

im going to have to go without much food and roids again this month

>>38895946
Your FSH and LH are within the normal range.
... within a normal distribution there are some people bound to be on the lower and higher end. It's nothing to worry about and there's no 'reason' why you should have been in the higher end of the spectrum.

Concerning your billirubin and alkaline phosphatase, did you drink alcohol or take medication in the days leading up to the day they took the blood?
Since your other liver values are normal and you don't have any complaints they are just outliers from normal.

The normal distribution applies again, the cut off values are not necessarily the level of 'disease' or no disease they are just the top 5th and bottom 5th percentile.
If you stay worried have the values checked again in a few months and see if they go up down or stay the same. Most likely they will either go down or stay the same and then you can forget about it.

Just out of curiosity how much did the blood panel cost you ?

wtf are these fucking retarded 100€ limits PER MONTH on bitcoin websites.

Would it work to just buy bitcoin from different websites and send them all to the same wallet/adress?

fkn retarded i want my roids now, not in a month mothertruckers

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you absolute degenerate madman

>>38896052
Yeah luckily we're not all the same, life would be boring.

>>38896142
>>38896169

>>38896167
If you don't have a dynamic wallet address then you can easily do that.

>>38896189
i dont know if my wallet/adress is dynamic lol.

using electrum wallet btw

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>>38896167
>Not owning a Chinese GPU farm and mining your own BTC

Shiggydiggydoo

>>38895910
So, you're saying I'd need PCT after, right?

>>38896142
sometimes i feel like a loser and then i see people like you and feel good about myself again

>>38896157

Thanks! The FSH and LH values didn't really bother me all that much, but I was a little worried about the bilirubin and AP results. I don't drink any alcohol, and I'm not on any medications (just supplements and a multi). One of my parents has a liver condition, though, so that added to my concern. As for the blood panel, it cost me about $75.

>>38893531
>3 years
Maybe thats why, also what if youre a few inches over 6'

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I pinned for the first time yesterday.

dbol... normal/high dose for the standard 5 weeks or so, or lower dose for the whole run?

Or doesnt it matter if Im taking 500+ mg of test with it?

>>38896206
If its a regular wallet it's probably static.To be safe just let the transactions with the different website complete one by one and check your address in between every time to see if its still correct.

>>38896277
any pip?

>>38896226
I'm saying that due to its suppressive nature, an anavar-only cycle is not a very good idea. you will feel the typical low t sides that come with that if you don't pin exogenous text.

yes you will need pct even if you decide on a cycle consisting of only anavar

>>38896308
K, thanks. Guess I gotta get ready for pinning my ass...

>>38896252
What's the liver condition he/she has ?
Still I get your concern at first but it really isn't Sth to worry about.

>>38896301
thanks for the output bro, helped a lot

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Really funny how you dyels don't understand lightning.

>IS THAT MAST
literally everyone can look dyel and fat in shit lightning. But how can you know that, since you always look like shit no matter what lightning.

>>38895238
Here are my legs, you utter dyel loser. What have you achieved in you life that you're proud of? Beside being a nobody. You're put on this earth for my entertainment. Your whole life you will only look up to superior people like me. Wishing you were never born

I already have shown enough pictures where you can see my traps. What pictures have you shown, beside other ppl's pictures?

>>38896302
Yes right cheek is sore but everything looks golden.

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hi masT waddup baby

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>>38895026
First cycle: mast + test

Second cycle: Test

Third: started with; winny+ Test now i am on test + mast again, since months. Gonna make this cycle never ending.

I am gonna show you dyels how you really need to look like when you bnc

>>38895010
I dunno, was always scared to use tren. Maybe for the next cut.

>>38896331

It's non-alcoholic cirrhosis, but they've never determined the root cause.

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>>38896473
>First cycle: mast

but why tho. 90% of the people who use mast use it for some kind of contest prep

give me a good (A GOOD MF) reason why i shouldnt just pop bp pills and forget about cardio

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Hey guys. I'm new here. My buddy just hooked me up with some test e and once I get ahold of some syringes I'll be pinning 500mg a week. Can someone give me an idea of what to expect? IE how long until I feel it, general gains, etc? I'm sure it's not going to blow my mind or anything but I hope it feels better than lifting natty. 22 years old 205lbs here.

>>38896473
What's your take on boldenone? I want to increase my gains, but I'd rather not risk hair loss as much as if I were to use something like Tren. I'm pretty paranoid, which is why I'm not planning on using orals, due to the liver toxicity.

At the moment, I'm just cruising on 100mg Test E e3d after a 16 week blast of 250mg e3d.

Why is it that of all the people that used Tren, they either say it completely kills your sex drive, or it makes you want to fuck the first living, or non living creature you see?

>>38896553
test really kicks in at week 4.

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>>38896524
Because this i what i looked like before i started test + mast. I was retarded enough to think that mast would keep me shredded while growing bigger with test.

Now i know that masteron is better to use at lower bodyfat and keeps you really full looking(especially shoulders)while being depleted from low carbs. Would never cut without masteron anymore.

>>38896558
Never used it. Might gonna use it with upcoming blast. I also have hair loss with masteron and even with high test, but it grows back again. Saw palmetto and pumpkin oil pills helped.

How bad are you hair genetics? If you weren't balding before, you shouldn't worry. Hair loss is normal imo. You should only worry if you were balding.

>>38896541
they cost money but cardio is free
its good for your joints (until it isnt)
bp pills probably have some bad side effects maybe

all I know is people who roid and don't do cardio die at 30 though who knows if the two are even related. may as well run

>>38896553
will feel it at 3-4 weeks. after 5-6 you look bigger and fuller more or less every day

>>38896553
Test E is normally 4-6 weeks before it kicks in

Did your friend give you anything other than test? You don't want to cycle anything AI or something just in case senpai

>>38896600
>>38896553
Don't want to cycle anything without an AI ****

>>38896592
Doe eens wat shrugs man.

Zoveel shit in je lijf en nog steeds geen traps.

>>38896612

He's running tren + a low dose of test right now. He said I would be fine with just test, and if I had any side effects to talk with him and he would get me something to take care of it.

I have enough test for a 15 week cycle. I was going to get some PCT from him for the last 3-4 weeks of the cycle. Should I be taking it throughout the whole thing?

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>>38896235
you're welcome

>>38896600
>>38896631

AI is a good point. 500mg isn't an issue for some people but I have seen dudes at the gym who had lactating bitch tits because they have never learned that estrogen is a thing.

Good chance you won't need anything but you want to make sure you have access just in case. PCT you take 2-4 weeks after you STOP pinning and the "fake" test leaves your system

>>38896631
Nope, normally you'd wait 2 weeks after your cycle for the test to clear out before you start your actual PCT (hence the name)

Keep an eye out for any symptoms that might require an AI though during the cycle. 500 isn't a shitton of test but it's different for everyone.
Best to hop on those symptoms quickly in case you're prone to gyno

>new millennium + 16 years
>still pinning steroids
>not pinning asteroids
shiggy

>>38896592
Not balding, but I have dat dere Germanic hairline due to being half german. I've noticed more hair coming out in the shower than before, but it might just be because I'm overthinking it, even though I'd rather not lose my hair. Besides, my father is 64 and he only started balding a few years back, but then again he still looks like he's in his early 50's.

I've actually got 100g raw Tren E sitting here waiting to be brewed. I was planning on either using it, or selling it on and making a quick buck.

>>38896654

Okay. Thanks for the advice.

Also, there's less risks involved (I know test is pretty safe I'm just saying theoretically) if I have low testosterone levels already right? I've always felt weak and lethargic as fuck, even for my weight. Libido is fine though. Can't wait to feel the effects cause I've felt scrawny and weak my whole life even after gaining mass.

>>38896681
>100g Tren E
>planning on using it

New kind of /fit/

about to finish my first 10 week cycle
how long will it take for my test levels to return to normal if I start HCG now and continue until PCT?

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>>38893531
>these arms
>easily attainable natty

let me guess, you have been training for no more than a year

>>38896712
Maybe he's just 5ft

>>38896701
It'll last several years before it loses any potency. I was already planning on selling it on, what I meant was if I was going to sell it all, or use some for myself.

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>>38896625
Does this bait still exist?

Did you notice that that natty picture is bigger than you will ever be, no matter how many roids you are using in your life. Are you still trying to criticizing me?

One trap of my, is bigger than your whole body. That's how small you are.

>>38896681
I have like a shit ton of hair in my hand during showers. Yet my hairline remains the same.

I would you worry if you were baling.

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>>38895531

>not much of a difference.

6'2 or more is good.
6'0 is just short of ever making it. Forever compensatingmanlet.

>>38896592

MasT how old are you?

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>>38896743

Im on 500mg test e.

Should i wait for itchy nips, or take my asin right now.

If i get itchy/puffy nips and take asin immediately, will it go away.


>>38896743
masT, do you need Ai on high test

>>38896844
Yeah I've had a question related to this. If I wake up one day with itchy/puffy nips and take Aromasin do they go away right after like a couple hours or does it take a day or so? And if that did happen would I have to continue a consistent dose of asin for the rest of cycle?

>>38896743
He's just being a salty bitch trying to get you to respond more to him.

why does the btc provider state their BIC, but when i got to my online banking and try to send money, there is not even a bar to type the BIC into it.

Do they just state their BIC for no reason?

tl:dr im confused as to wether i choosed the correct payment option

>>38896871
I dont really care if it goes away after hours or days, i want to know if it goes away at all with Aromasin, or wether i need Ralox or Letro (le anti gyno killers).

I can answer your second question.
If you get itchy nips you will have to take asin from now on and never stop. It means your body aromatizes enough to get gyno, so you have to pop Asin.

Ai isnt like Accutane where the effect stays post-treatment

I usually pin at five in the morning before I gym
It's 3 pm est, can I do my pin now or do I have to wait until midnight or nah?

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>>38896592
That's legit you natty?
Well good sir, I now understand why you're such a cunt if that's the case.
You earned the right to.

doing 250mg test e bnc

1: I should split it up into 125mg/2x per week right?

2: About the split. Monday first pin, thursday second pin right?

>>38896991
U srs belive that? Also he is like 5'5

>>38897021
However you like. More often means more stable levels. I personally pinned 250mg e3d, so it was more than 500mg per week, something like 583mg a week, but it was more stable than pinning once a week.

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>>38896817
25

>>38896844
Yes

>>38896991
I am here to entertain you guiyz.

Irl i am actually really humble and friendly.

>>38897021
>>38897050
I mean when I was blasting. I'm currently cruising on 100mg e3d, so ~233mg per week.

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>>38896743
>armlet
holy insecurity why do you get baited so easily

>>38896991
I don't have anything against MasT but he is definitely not natty with those delts and arms.
And if he was natty then he didn't gain much size since he started using.

>>38897063
>>38897050

>100+100 = 233
>250+250 = 583

wat

>>38896899

Bic is needed for some countries. Something to do with Iban. Don't really care to go into specifics.

I remember having to use bic and Swift but it's rare nowadays. Don't worry.

>>38896595
These are related. Because, unfortunately, heart is also made of skeletal muscle, which responds to increased amounts of androgens. That causes hypertrophy. Now, we all know that this causes dangerous problems - the heart is getting tired faster, blood pressure starts to vary. Off-cycle, the heart is first to react - shedding its extra mass. IF one was overdoing sterons, not giving a fuck, then heart attack at 30 is a strong possibility. You can also end up like Zyzz if you like stims together with your ventricular hypertrophy.
Also, they might have been doing orals for a long time to top it all off, which is one of the best ways to tell your liver goodbye.

>>38897090
>e3d = 2 days a week

This guy thinks they're 6 days in a week lmao what a retard

>>38893645
Fuck yeah dude! I want to choke bitches none of this sweet passionate love making.

>>38897090

100 e3d is 33.3 ed or 233/week.
250 e3d is 83.3 ed or 583.3/week.

This is gradeschool math, cmon. You can at least count to maximum scoops I hope?

>>38897090
100e3d is 33.33/day
Week is 7 days so 7*33.33=233.33

>>38897095

Telmisartan prevents and sometimes reverses LVH iirc.

>>38897055
Are you planning to compete? Or have you maybe competed already?

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>>38897072
Normally I am not like this, but my hormones are shitty atm, having a shit day.

I took the bait, i admit. I am weak today guys. Weak pussy

>>38897074
Actually i did made pretty good progress on the legs and forearms. Also keep in my that i did 2 cycles for those results. I had zero legs and no fore arms. I also had shitty back

I also went 1 year off between cycles. I kept all the gains

But from now on i will bnc, let's see how many gains i will make now.

this was the biggest i was @ 102kg, with 2 cycles. And how do you look after 10 years of bnc?

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>>38897154
>how do you look after 10 years of bnc?

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>>38897151
No, i don't have the potential.

>>38897154
Whats you arm measurement? (cold)

>>38893511
What is known about mast except that he takes roids?

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>>38897319

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>>38897049
You mean to say people lie on the internet?

>>38897055
An inspiration to us all, to be sure.

>>38896712
OP's arms or the pic youre replying to? i really hope you dont mean the latter

>>38897319
He has deep psychological issues

>>38897094
Good to know.
Thanks for the output brother

mid 20's been lifting for a while, thinking about going on test for strength gains leading up to a comp. What mg and for how long of a cycle would you recommend?

>>38897154
So you're proof that you needn't BnC to have keepable gains or you just trolling.

Only pinned four fucking times and already the BnC guys are gnawing at my resolve.

>>38897120
>>38897130
>>38897113

I didnt expect this much autism when it comes to pinning.

Im surpised esu

i'm a faggot using roid to get attention

>>38897370
Obviously I mean MasTs arms. Omars physique is attainable just fine, Masts is not

>>38897362
lmao
how did his face surface?

does masT mean mas testosterone? like more testosterone in spanish?

>>38894888

This.

It's fucking CRINGE city when guy post picture s of OTHER people when saying "roid for this".

They have no idea if the other person is truly natty, and they also don't understand that camera angle/distance/lighting makes an enormous difference in how people look in photos. That's why bodybuilding contests are not done by photos only. 1 guy might look bigger in pictures, and be dwarfed by the other guy in person.

It also fails to consider proportionality.

The guy who does a 500mg EW blast of test for 4 months in the summer who is NOT going to look nearly the same as the guy who cruises at 500 all the time who's blasts are of 750mg Tren added in a week.

The guy who is taking 150mg weekly of TRT isn't going to even look much beyond natty at all. Basically be able to have a little bit more muscle, and it won't do anything to help them stay lean either.

>>38897430
>not using the masT signature "I'am"
fake nerd

>>38897417

PCT is like saying you can drive your Lambo for two weeks but have to go to your corolla for a year afterwards. B&C is driving your lambo for two weeks and then getting in a Benz for a couple months while your Lambo gets a faster new engine.

>>38897469
masT = masteron

>>38893511
has anyone ordered the stuff(fuckin idk why i cant remember what its called) that you use to make your own steroids, and is way cheaper than steroids already set? if you plan to blast and cruise for a few years or more, it seems like thatd be the way to go except i hear that if customs finds you for that shit its like decades in prison for intent to manufacture and distribute

>>38897095
lol this just scared the shit out of me.
so i should just do my cardio and its all good?
or are bü pills enough?

what is overdose?

i do 250/500mg test bnc.

will i die

>>38897515
>i hear that if customs finds you for that shit its like decades in prison for intent to manufacture and distribute
They can't prove you're planning on distributing it. Obviously if you buy a retarded amount than they might, but I ordered 100g Tren E and it was seized, and they just sent me a letter saying it had been seized since it was a class whatever drug. I just reordered it and got it a couple weeks later and nothing happened lmao.

I'm in the UK though, where it's legal to use

>>38897515
test powder?

yes if you get cought with that shit your fucked.

yes it would be much more efficient.

>>38897533
>will i die
one day

cardio is always good just do your 20 minute jogs on cycle and maybe bike on your off days when cruising.

>>38897407
Do some research yourself. Check out Reddit steroids or Llewellyn's Anabolics to get some info.

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Seig heil

>>38897548
where are steroids legal? maybe ill just move there when Im ready to leave humanity behind and get some raw test

>>38897095
>>38896595
so by doing cardio you're killing your heart's gains, thereby preventing a heart attack?

>>38897533

if your blood pressure is good at 250, you donate blood regularly, and you aren't abusing AI's then you should be ok.

My blood pressure goes up slightly on anything over 150, not to dangerous levels at 500mg weekly test I'm at 140s/80s so, for a few months that's ok, but I can't do that indefinitely. 250 does same to my BP as 500. Anything under 150 weekly and I'm sitting at 120's over 70s. I cruise at 125 to be safe then, and I feel great on that.

So for me it's like 125mg weekly cruise, and a 500mg blast for a few months in the spring while cutting. I can basically starve the fat aff and gain muscle at the same time on 500 - but the end result is nothing crazy.

I'm over 35 and have 3 kids, so fertility is a non issue. This strategy is more for anti-aging. The 500 blasts are only for prserving muscle durring rapid fat loss so I don't look dadbod in the summer.

Truth is my sex drive is best 125mg weekly cyp, and then I don't even need AI's.

Seriously for quality of life, just keeping your testosterone at the upper end of the normal range for a younger guy and you "feel" good. Actually I feel better at 125 than 250.

>>38894985
>jaden smith face
Fuck
Good job rollin with that punch but
Keeeek loling so hard
Its perfect

>>38895865
Stack it with test to avoid shut down or grow a vagina


These are your var cycle options

>>38896473
I thought you did a bunch of var
Or did you sub winny in the end after all

>>38896991
>that's legit you natty
>masT
Pffffft hahahaha

>>38897746
Not really. Cardio also causes LVH, but, the difference is that it's beneficial - increases strength of pump and the amount of blood with each. How's that different from steroid hypertrophy, you may ask? Such, that natural hypertrophy is always a response to increased needs and thus it is never over the top or non-selective. Gets you better at what you do, which is usually cardio. Steroid hypertrophy works by virtue of binding to androgen receptor and it does not give a fuck if you need growth in that part or not. It is also non-selective, so does not spare the heart even when it has no need for further growth, also it has a different effect - bloating, instead of improving.
So, cycling is natural - you stop before you lead to irreversible changes and with normal cardio, the hypertrophy you get actually improves your resistance and health.

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>>38896991

>>38894888
So triggered. Nice damage controll tho

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How does one fight hourglassmode (wide shoulders, high lats, disproportionally small waist)?

Do you just go crazy on lats and back? and no, obliques are fucking shit meme they make your hip bone area/lovehandle area look even wider and shittier.

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>>38898046

Is there any reason to not use Dbol or Tbol as a jump start for my first cycle other than to see how I react to test first?

>>38898361
>Tbol
trip on groot

>>38898371
I just know those are the 2 people recommend if you want to see results right away.

>>38898361
You can even use them both, but if you start getting sides you won't know if theyre from test,tbol or dbol and it's gonna be a bitch to deal with

You really can use em fine as long as you're aware of potential sides and keep an eye out, though test alone does much more for you than you'd expect

>>38898361
dbol aromatizes like a bitch

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>>38893938
>>38894401
>Fat and brick where to get crimper for cheapest?

ebay, got one for like $70 shipped

>>38897982

except there's no actual data on the real effects of aas-induced lvh contrasted with athletic lvh and true morbid lvh arising from a pathogenic process, shitdick

this is what happens when you're dumb enough to take an actual understood quantity like athletic lvh and try to somehow extrapolate it wildly outside its bounds, just because you see a duck that waddles and quacks and acts like an asshole doesn't mean it's the exact same fucking duck you saw five minutes ago

>>38898165

stop lifting like a bitch and pick up some heavy shit

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>>38898544
How is she just about level with the damn counter tops?

>>38898622
Hot as fuck, desu.
I love short girls.

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>>38898622

pretty sure she's actually on the taller side of average for chicks, just a strangely high breakfast bar or some shit

>>38898643

fun size chicks are neat

>>38893531
I believe in Omar nattyness, he's really dedicated and his current progress is slow as fuck, also his bodyfat% in that after picture if by /fit/ standards high as fuck, probably around 15-12%

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>>38893531
>tfw already 2 years training
>look more like the before picture than the after

>>38895010
Just got off ~5 weeks of tren. It was honestly great... except for the fucked up sleep. It affects you big time. I don't know how others do it... I need my sleep. 4 hours a night just is not enough.

>>38898815
what dose?

>>38896277
Welcome.

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>>38897489

>>38898046
Kekked hard anon, well played.

>>38898371
>>38898389
Just keep in mind that low risk equal low reward.

I am putting a lot of weight on, but without any pump or extra strength, and positive it's just as much water percentage as dbol gains despite me being told it was going to be hard keepable gains.

>>38900031
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>>38900031
>>38900031
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>>38898841
I was running 50/day to start with, but I'm kind of a drug addict and like to overdo things, so I upped it to 100/day. Sides were too fucking strong so I let it clear and back to 50/day, same amount of sides. Tren just isn't for me, which is fine tb h because I am not a cow that needs to be turned into meat for slaughter lol.