/fraud/

>>38811093

Sage for niggerpic.

>>38811093
whats your favorite thing about being on steroids? I love being able to jack off whenever I want and still have a ton of energy and libido

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>>38811093
Tfw no liftan gf

>>38811128

>female trexmode.

How do you get legs like that with 0 core?

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tfw i'am sad because i will never look like this.

This is literally peferfection. Flawless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFR6Br_DHmI

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>>38811161
No idea but would smash

Brick, did you manage to brew your 1-test cyp?

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>>38811189

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HOLY SHIT

Reality check; life is all about genetics. If you have shit genetics you better kill yourself

>>38811235
On it

>>38811161
must be just leg extension, possibly some leg curls too

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>>38811235

You keep posting genetics, kys and niggers together though.

Assuming you mean niggers or people that look like the niggers you post should kill themselves?

If so, agreed!

>>38811344
Cooling off. Still angry. Frustrated.

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> niggers attacking Whites in Cali and NC

Would anyone be upset if someone were to kill about a million niggers next week? I'm betting those 'protesters' will stand down immediately once things get.. 'serious'.

Not that I would do such a thing etc etc

>>38811118
It's pretty great at first.
A month or so in, I wish I had free time instead of fapping 5+ times a day.

>>38811379
>Kessig Prowler
>not Muscle Burst

>>38811344

>bb genetics
>beauty pageant genetics

Pick two.

Why are you so obsessed with this stuff anyway? It doesn't make sense. It's just a hobby.

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>>38811360
You were saying that you ex was already going out with other men?

Time will heal eventually. Not much people can do for you atm. Corny, but true.

Do you have current pics? I'm curious


>>38811394
Better to surrender yourself. It's over. Genocide is upon us.

>>38811394

Kickstarter. I'll donate.

1 million? Can you do muslims in lolyurop after?

>>38811449

Holy shit that's some ridiculous bloat.

Was this the dbol only era?

Most aesthetic bb ever is still white.

Big =/= aesthetic.

>>38811394
They are only attacking city slickers, they wouldn't stand a chance against the suburbs

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>>38811448
I always wanted to be big. Passion. Obsession. Fascination.

Why doesn't make it sense? Why are you so obsessed with drugs? Doesn't make sense to me.

Try to think more nuanced. Not everyone is the same. That's what makes this place interesting.

>>38811476
I can't remember i ever saw a ripped picture from you?

>>38811449

>Genocide is upon us.

Oh fuck I hope so.

Clean up this earth. And when did cleaning ever make something (more) black :^).

>>38811531

You havent been here all that long. Jerry, BCF, brick, chem, ESTP, cap have.

There's a difference, because I don't go around telling everyone who doesn't do drugs they're retarded for not doing drugs.

Everyone with a goal different from yours is wrong. That's what doesn't make sense.

Also, you're allowed to find them aesthetic. But in the eyes of most of the population they're not. Which makes them unaesthetic.

Aesthetic is, in kiddie terms, that what most people find pleasing to the eye.

>real men don't care about what other people think

Does not change the meaning of a word

Im a german, and i only have foreeigner friends and they are all good people but man do i fucking hate niggers and mudslimes.

I dont even know how you people in merica cope with it.
I saw some sandnigger today in the bus.
Everyone was quite and you could hear every single of his akbar words loudly.

I got fucking mad

>>38811694
>Im a german, and i only have foreeigner friends and they are all good people b

You have no other german friends?

Okay then...

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>>38811449
She got finger banged the other night. I was pretty pissed. So I called her out on it, and she blocked me.

I've fucked a few ladies the past two weeks but it feels wrong. Not enjoyable. I think of her to get off.

I look like shit. Didn't lift all of August. This is me from like 2 days ago, no pump and fasted. Back in the gym just a week.

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>>38811476
Ramy isn't white

>>38811735

Further back in time Jerry.

>>38811748

Lovelylifts, I hunger for mcd now.

>>38811721
i have like one lol.
i dont know why, there is no special reason.
all of my friends just happen to be polish, russian, one georgian, one turk, an italic, one spaniard.

and they are all awsome people and good hearted.

yet i fucking hate niggers.

ill never go to merica.
cops fucking kill if you look at them funny and 90% of the niggers there are criminals. fuck that

canada is the better version of merica.

>>38811731
>roiding for this

Anyone ever donate blood on accutane? I forgot about being ineligible until I was already there and just went through with it anyways. What are my chances of being banned? I really don't want to bleed myself in the bathtub from now on. On 20mg a day at 188lb bodyweight

>>38811772
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSsuttlXwVY

Relevant autistic eating challenge.

>>38811781
I mean I hadn't lifted in a month and I don't eat or sleep. What do want from me?

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>>38811792
>What are my chances of being banned?
95%

>>38811779

Turcs are decent.

And only 30% of the niggers are criminals! Don't make it sound worse than it is.

Most niggers here are... Tolerable. The mudslimes are worse.

Freedom of religion came back to bite us in the ass huh...

>>38811805
i got depressed just from watching that.

ill need tren blast to over come

>>38811731
>it feels wrong. Not enjoyable. I think of her to get off.
That's fucked up. You've got it bad.

Maybe you should go cold turkey on women for a little bit.

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>>38811807

I think they want your dick.

>>38811805

Pic.

>>38811805
do you think you could beat his time?

>>38811847
There's absolutely no question.

>>38811812
yeah turks can be pretty decent. its like 50/50. Some are fucktards, some are very cool people.

I see way way more niggers acting fucking retarded and being pieces of shits than mudslimes.
But whatever they are both fucking shit.


Where is here? You live in Cuckermany too?

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>>38811655
Everyone who doesn't lift for girls is fucking crazy. THAT GUY DOESN'T LIFT FOR GIRLS. The absolute madman!!!! Yo, check out this guy.. what about him? He doesn't lift for girls. No way man, he's fucking insane. Better call the cops on him. The guy is totally losing it.

Aesthetic is just another word you dyels use for skinny. Yeah, you're right about that. I really don't care what other people think about me. Uou shouldn't either. Just do whatever you want to do and makes you happy.

Why are you so concerned what other people think? You're scared you won't blend in? Unhappy with yourself? Insecure? Inferior perhaps?

>>38811731
They're all whores. Deep inside they''re all the same baka.

But a man gotta do what a man gotta go.

Still looks proper to me. Always mirin the waist genetics.

Now get your ass to the gym and get as big a possible. We don't need no girls.

>>38811847

That's disgusting. But I ate 14 mcdoubles when bulking a few years ago.
Had been on eph for energy and hadnt eaten in 2 days. 14 mcdoubles, 3 big tasty like things and 2 large wraps.

And a large diet Coke.

>>38811829
Probably. I really care about this person.

Was talking to a lady friend here and she was telling me how my ex sounds like her sister; her sister suffers from borderline personality disorder. So I looked up the symptoms:
>impulsive reckless behavior
>splitting
>mood shifts from anger to depression
>fear of abandonment

The impulsiveness, splitting and fear of abandonment really hit the nail on the head. She always said people she loved left or betrayed her.

Now I just want to get her healthy.

>>38811808
What makes you say that?

>>38811863
biggest meal you ate from mcdonalds back in your peak perma bulk years?

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>>38811866

Your tiny western neighbor.

SCHADE DEUTSCHLA- oh wait, you won.

>>38811869
I ordered $50 worth of chinese delivery once and killed it within 45 seconds of closing the door.

Speed affects me a little differently than most sometimes, hah.

>>38811868
No. That's really a wrong way to observe things. I say things out of self righteous anger and passion, but not all women are awful and I don't think she is either. Just sick.

>>38811884
I didn't actually eat McDonalds all that often when I was heavy, I ate a lot of cheap food because I was poor. Probably my biggest single meal from there though was around 15 cheeseburgers/mcchickens, but that was when I was like 12 and not even heavy.

>>38811927
what would a typical days eating look like when you were 400+?

Is 86 pmol/l estradiol high for natty?

>>38811934
Meh, don't even care to really try to take stock, I don't like thinking about my mindset back then. It was a lot of work sometimes though, maintaining 470 ain't easy.

>>38811927
>15 cheeseburgers/mcchickens, but that was when I was like 12 and not even heavy.
Mirin bulk. I struggle to put down 6.

>>38811868

Unhappy, yeah. Not really a secret. Insecure? Nah, I have no idea what about really. Inferior? Probably not.

Why arent you just getting yourself pumped full of synthol? Big without the wait. You only want to get big after all...

I'm kidding, but aesthetic isn't a made up word. It's pretty much what I said. It's no excuse for anything.

It seems you're the one who cares about others' opinions more btw. "holy shit, if you don't look like x just kys"

I'll be lifting until I get injured again because right now I feel weak and worthless compared to old me. I'm literally competing against myself, and I always will be.

>lifting for girls

It's a nice side effect. But if that were my goal there'd be easier ways.

>>38811969
>470 ain't easy.
What're you at now?

>>38811900

I hate carbs.

I can easily down 3lbs of steak in 5 minutes without looking like an idiot though.

Did that once, 150€ tenderloin, around 4lbs at a restaurant.

I was hungry.

3lbs in 5 minutes, took my time with the last. It's too good to waste

hey experts, if i take test, my balls will stop producing test, right? but if i go off test, will they start producing test again?

>>38811889
we didnt win.

we were absolute piece of shits and pulled whole of europe into a shithole for 2 world wars.

and now we are cucks and let mudslimes ruin our peaceful lives.

im mirin poland for being strong minded and not being cucks.

you are the winners here, you mind your own business.

>>38812029
yes

>>38811967
hello?

>>38811997
310 last I checked.

>>38812029
yes they will, with a help of some meds.

without meds, it takes a bit longer

>>38812040
>poland
polands a shithole though. Even with mudslime hordes you have better quality of life than poles.

>>38811772
Ronnie was black

>>38811908
When r u going back to the west coast for bimbo rage round ???

>>38812085
What

>>38812059
le everything is a shithole meme, including developed countries meme

>>38812040

rule #1

The only women fit to lead are british royalty.

You broke rule #1.

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Anyone have success rotating PSMF and mild bulking protocols for a recomp?

1-2 weeks 1000kcal a day mostly meat
1-2 weeks 500-1000kcal surplus

My broscience senses tell me this will shock my metabolism. My rational side says that over a month period it will still be a caloric deficit, so I should at least drop fat. Is this a win-win or am I a subhuman retard?

>>38812079

>Aesthetic is, in kiddie terms, that what most people find pleasing to the eye.

Ronnie was a very wide manlet, hardly what most people find aesthetic.

Even when you disregard his face he wouldn't make the top 1000 most aesthetic list.

In the category too big to be aesthetic he might have been one of the few at the top though.

Anyway, even when talking about BBing, further back in time jerr.

>>38812222
Quads confirm, guess I'll do it.

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So this is my body after like 2 years months of hard lifting and great nutrition... Should I hop on some gear? I literally cannot build muscle and have been at a plateau with my lifts for months

>>38812113

>everything

no. But I wouldn't want to make a living there either.

Great place to feel like a king for cheap though I much prefer Hungary.

>>38812245

mediocre progress for 2 months, but not TOO bad. Depends on where you started desu.

>>38812263
I meant to say 2 years. I am 6'1 and 190 by the way. I tried to bulk but just ended up getting fat. And whenever I try to cut I lose all my strength. Feels bad man.

Can you somehow permanently alter the amount your body converts testo to estro?
I ask cause on my first blast 1year ago I needed a shitton asin on 500mg test but now on my cruse at 250 e5d (350) I have almost low estro without any Ai whatsoever.
Just got my bloodwork back and I am a little surprised by the numbers

Ok so I'm the guy who donated blood on accutane earlier. Can I just call them up tomorrow and tell them I came down with a cold or something? That would mean they'd have to incinerate it and wouldn't test it right?

>>38812272
Max lifts?
Routine?
I refuse to believe you worked hard for 2 years and got that. Your frame size is fine, you don't look genetically crippled.

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>>38812279

the amount converted isn't linear iirc

>>38812296
DL 700 SQUAT:825 with wraps bench:510 raw
Ive been on texas method

>>38812331

KG right?

>>38812272
im pretty sure you didnt lift in those 2 years.
come on, i've seen failures but this would be satire

>>38812245
>>38812272
>>38812331
lol

>>38812296
I did starting strength with accessories, and by this picture doesn't really show it but my frame is super fucked I have tiny wrists and hands, as well as wide hips. My bench is 165 and my squat is 205, and my deadlift is 255.

>>38812347
pounds
I'm from burgerland.

>>38812245
Tiny wrists are innate to 6'2 skeletons, that's nothing new. Have you eaten properly, slept, trained 3x a week on a routine? This isn't dumbquestions thread but you can seriously lift a lot more if you follow those 3 things.

>>38812413
Yes I literally counted all my macros and got 8 hours of sleep every night and made sure to hit the gym at least 3 times a week. Plus I have low-ish testosterone (450ng). Im gonna try a cycle of 250mg test E per week and see how I like it.

>>38811878
>Now I just want to get her healthy.
You need to stop worrying about her. She isn't your problem anymore. She isn't yours to fix.

You have to focus on you.

>>38812047
Good work m8.
You've already lost more weight then I weighted when I started.

few questions

what is the criminal penalty for personal possesion of tren in new zealand

is it true you develop gyno and lose all your gains after you come off a cycle

what is the cost

>>38812492
That's cold

Hopefully she'll reach out

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should i hop on tren

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>Monday, press 250 like it was a pillow
> Today, struggle on pause reps a 205

Fucking insomnia is killing my gains lads.

Will restlessness subside once my test fully kicks in?

Do you guys take anything for sleep? Guys seem to have a pill for everything.

>>38812511
You can literally google it dipshit

>>38812465

Don't.

also 450 and those lifts.... in 2 years?

Get EVERYTHING checked, this isn't low T.

>>38812565
You hop off a bridge

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>>38811226

technically yes

>>38811878

jesus christ /fraud/ really is like a magnet for bpd

>>38811927

mcgangbang? mcgangbang

>>38812565
You should start lifting

>>38812565
how about hopping on food

>>38812245
I should slap the shit out of you for even asking "Should I dop on some gear?"

>>38812622
It's because bpd women are insecure, impulsive and anxious. Like all of fraud.

>>38812622
damn that sucks, when you get that dhb brew down I need some

>>38812552
>Hopefully she'll reach out
That's pretty much the worst possible thing that could happen.

You're out don't let her pull you in again.

>>38812622
why is there not a 1-test ace or prop?

>>38812735
No I want back in

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>>38812759
This is like asking for pain, do you enjoy pain? if you don't leave her.

Alternatively become her cuckold, that way you can get off on her abusing you.

>>38811878

.........pls stahp. Can't fix that. I tried.

>>38812795
>He shall reply [I'm natty]
"Because steroids are illegal and have been subject to decades of propaganda and stigma."

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>>38812692

>insecure, impulsive and anxious

Sounds like my kind of girl. Throw some arrogance and sass in there too.

>>38812795
almost stopped reading thinking it was just the tired old "muh motivation" quote

excellent image

>>38812759
>I want back in
And junkie wants his crack.
It might even make him feel good for a little while.

>>38812835
That's my ex lmao in the bdsm circle you call them "brats"

>>38812319
Any reading you can link?>>38812331

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>>38812718

monkeying with this bullshit compound more isn't super high on my list of priorities right now plus I've only got like 20g left and panda is oos apparently, so I wouldn't hold my breath

>>38812754

ask the slants or somebody that actually has more than a basic chemistry education

>>38812859
Dunno how I linked that other post please ignore. Wanna know about aromatization

>>38812803
I'd consider being the bull in her poly relationship. I've been offered before.
>>38812850
Yes it's very much an addiction. It's my codependent behavior. I need to work on it. I'm going to be the man she needs when she comes back.

>>38812869
can you post current body pic brick?

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>>38812759
inb4 suicide

>>38812893
Brick doesn't post pictures. (Cause he's dyel)

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What are your guy's winter bulk going to look like?

Why is sst so damn empty nowadays? Are the labs laying low or something?

>>38812936
It's a literal honeypot now.

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>>38812893
>>38812924
>(Cause he's dyel)

truth

think this was like a month ago so I'm up at least 10lbs and somehow leaned out a good bit from ~tren magic~

>>38812998
>That belly
You're actually a bear aren't you

>>38812998
Mirn.
Where are your lifts at?

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>tfw we finally bully manlet enough that he leaves
I hope that loser killed himself
Stupid little fuck

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>>38813020

pls no bully

>>38813035

495*/405/605**

* low bar is projected at 495 right now

* pulled 605 like 4 different times with the last being probably 2-3 months ago, guessing anywhere from 615-635 currently

>>38812567
Melatonin seems to work pretty well. Mk677 seems to have done something because I've been on 250mg test and 500 Tren for nearly 16 weeks and I sleep relatively ok. Wake up once a night to piss but it's a lot better than waking up 4 or 5 times a night rolling around.

>>38812567
Melatonin

What's best to run with tren to prevent prolactin build up?
At the moment I have nolva and ralo on hand.
I feel like either I dose too low or this just isn't the best option

>>38811448

> Why are you so obsessed with this stuff anyway?

Why are you so obsessed with hating black people?

>>38811344
masT banned again for posting cuck shit LMAO

>>38811779
I live in Toronto and most people are brown. This applies to ALL major cities in Canada. The brown people here are chill though. Obviously a few nigganigga Chiraq wannabes and degenerates but it is tolerable.

>>38812565
aesthetic base tbqhwyfamily

Is it true that tumblr bitches want aesthetic 4chan fit guys' dick in their assholes and mouths and pussy like pol loves pepe?

>>38813239
>This applies to ALL major cities in Canada
not even close to being true

jesus christ man, even in toronto it's not true.

the majority is ALWAYS white, then it's usually asian (see: toronto, vancouver). brown people make barely 3% of toronto's population. montreal's probably the biggest melting pot in canada and that's 6% brown, 9% black, 6% asian

>>38813093
Nice. I deadlifted for the first time in months last week. I felt like a beast. Till I woke up the next day.
>>38813199
It's his hobby.

>>38813309
Yes lmao just yes ex is hardcore tumblrina

>>38813309
No they want power
They're too ugly or damaged to get it through traditional females means (pussy game) so they shift blame on men to conceptualize their failures

>>38813355
Dog I promise you they love it

>>38812576
W-what else should I get checked? I got my blood done a week ago and I'm slightly anemic so I figure if I hop on test I can both get jacked and fix my anemia

>>38812492

> You need to stop worrying about her. She isn't your problem anymore. She isn't yours to fix.
> You have to focus on you.

Exactly. Also, as someone who's had experience actually being a caretaker for a family member with borderline personality disorder... I wouldn't wish that on anyone. It's difficult to treat because there aren't any medications that are directly effective. Currently the best evidence-based treatment is Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, but that often requires going to an intensive outpatient program with at least 1-3 private sessions with a psychiatrist and psychologist, as well as another 1-3 group sessions. Not many people can stick with that.

Not to mention people with BPD attempt suicide at a very high rate and are quite successful at it. Usually the ones who end up getting treatment are the ones who attempted and failed suicide or whose loved ones and friends ended up leaving them, so they were left with no social or economic support network so they were forced into treatment.

I spent 6 years caring for someone like that and in the end burned out, got fired from my job, and lost that person anyway.

>>38813373
Maybe if you have the HEIGHT the FACE and the FRAME

>>38812973

really? fucking hell. i should've bought more a while ago when it wasn't like that.

>>38813408
You post on /r9k/ while Chad eats small none pizza left beef.

>>38813429
no, not really.

jesus christ you people

>>38812567
Melatonin

>>38813239
A lot of the brown people live in Mississauga and Brampton.

>>38813431
I hate r9k.
I hate it so much
I dunno how people can handle it

Basically all communities like that just get me mad

>>38813328
>brown people
>3%

What did wikipedia say that in a source from 2001?
I know you don't live here.

>>38811093
How do y'all feel that Gook sold your ip/timestamp/post info to the highest bidder?
Enjoy jail lmao rip fags

>>38813396
Sounds like a big investment opportunity.

I've done all the research. It seems like it's such a common but overwhelming disorder that doctors don't even want to diagnose it as such.

I'm seeking treatment and it's helping so far. I'm seeing more value in myself and letting go of my toxic codependent behaviors. I see a lot of the issues between she and I, were me; I couldn't or didn't know how to communicate effectively and her attitudes would get to me. I shouldn't look at her as a broad spectrum of symptoms but try to see her and why she's acting out the way she is.

Regardless I've read that most medications are prescribed for the comorbid conditions associated with bpd like depression or mood stabilizers to relieve the mood swings. I think I read the biggest hurdle is getting them into actual therapy so they can identify and learn to cope with their emotions since they feel them so much stronger than others, and often times end up burying them or not acknowledging them.

>>38813466
I live in north york you retard

if you think brown people are ANYWHERE near the amount of asians (and even close to white people) you're a fucking idiot or you live in a fuckin ghetto that you never leave

>>38813309
That's sort of been my experience.
It seems like the hard core feminists, really like to be treated like worthless whores in the bedroom.

>>38813482
>the high profile steroid suppliers known as 4chan

>>38813505
Yeah but even when I had a lot of self worth I liked to be tied up and be treated as a cockslut.

Sometimes people just like what they like. Sometimes people really are acting out prior traumas or initial sexual experiences.

Sex is weird don't try to understand it.

any reason why cap would intentionally ignore emails and run off with my money? :(

>>38813528
I have a direct line. He's banned so I'll get ahold of him for you.

>>38813462
You have the exact same defeatist attitude that they have towards women.

>>38813496
>North York

Come to scarborough so I can fuck you up. Kennedy station midnight brawl. Haha. Just kidding.

I see way more sri lankans and indians compared to chinese. You live closer to Markham and Asian Court, Chinese colonies.

>>38813396
Also interesting to note, they have legitimately different brain structure physically. The hippocampus is smaller and the amygdala is smaller, but is overworked.

>spend all summer running 250 test 500 tren e
>get no sides from the tren, thinking I am just lucky
>make decent gains, nothing exactly amazing
>blame it on my lack of sleep, and not 100% perfect diet (although the diet was better than 99% of peoples at the very least)

>fast forward to now
>my reddit source posts about how he had a "bad batch of tren" back in march, which was when i ordered it...

really?

like are you fucking serious? just FUCK my LIFE, I can't even FUCKING ABUSE DRUGS I am such a failure

WHAT THE FUCK

>>38813543
Yeah it's pretty similar
But it's different
I dunno. What's gets the most is all the shit posting like "virgin at 25? Just lift bro!!!" That shuts everywhere and so ignorant

>>38813533
ah fk. I attempted to get my money back via paypal because I thought he scammed me. I said I mistakenly sent it to the wrong email, but luckily paypal denied it. thanks man

>>38813573
Yeah he's an honest guy and a good friend, he wouldn't scam you.

He's checking his mail now.

>>38813544
>>38813496
lets have sex i'm in parkdale

>>38813554
I knew your head had a weird shape.
Now I know why.

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>>38813533
>>38813585
Bimbo confirmed capitalist

>>38813573
What's your email

>>38813735
[email protected]

6-7 years natty lifter reporting in with a question.
I know the stigma on roids portraits it as destoying your body when you take them and I know this is not the case, but assuming done correctly how damaging is roiding to the body, if not beneficial at a certain age? (when natural test starts to drop etc.)

>>38813747
He sent you an email but he's thinking that you got catfished by an anon.

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>>38813835
and this is why shilling here isn't allowed

wasn't bad enough BL and countless others rip people off here. But you faggots persist.

Disgusting t b h

>>38813768
Hard to say for certain, because few long term studies have been done on testosterone or nadrolone, and none have been done on the more exotic compounds like masteron, dianabol, winstrol, trestolone, trenbolone, etc...

But BASICALLY you have an elevated risk of cardiac problems later in life through a potential combination of left ventricular hypertrophy, increase blood pressure, and increased low density lipoprotein transport.

However, to be frank, I don't think the risks of congestive heart failure, hypertension, and atherosclerosis are as significant in the anabolic steroid using population as they are the population carrying +20lbs of extra adipose weight. Even the juiciest gear user will have better health markers than an obese person. If you want a healthy heart, there's really no way around cardiovascular exercise, but not being a fatass is a great start. Most of the long-term side effects of steroid use seem preventable just by maintaining relatively low bodyfat and doing cardio

>>38813896
I don't shill

>>38813921
not him but would you say that having good health genetics helps with roids? My family has all lived to be old as shit, even when living extremely unhealthy lifestyles. My grandfather is at least 20-23% bf and is almost 80 and in perfect health, so are his brothers, except most of them aren't fat.

>>38813964
they also eat like shit

>>38813921
Wrong.

Most all generation 1 AAS have extensive studies in one capacity or another. Dianabol, anadrol and masteron are all fairly well studied.

Masteron was a first generation breast cancer drug.

>>38813494

sadly it's not, at least here in the usa. insurance companies don't like paying out for bpd treatment because there isn't as much evidence supporting treatments specifically tailored to it.

doctors also tend to think prognosis for bpd is poor (and there's stigma associated with it because it's labeled as a "personality" disorder). coupled with the insurance problems, they'll often diagnose as bipolar or depression or something else. but that also means they'll end up treating the comorbid conditions, but not pay enough attention to the bpd. and not only is it hard to get people with bpd into therapy, but it's hard to keep them in therapy. it requires significantly more time, intensity, and effort to treat. a typical intensive DBT program for people with severe bpd is like 3-5 days a week for 2-3 months. basically a day hospitalization program.

>>38813562
Ask for a few vials as compensation?

>>38813983
Yeah it sounds very intensive. And she doesn't have insurance.

As a 20 yo girl I wouldn't like dropping my life for possibly a half year to seek treatment and feel shame for a personality disorder.

>>38813982
Looks like I have some reading to do then.

>>38813988
pming him now wish me luck

money isn't really an issue for me at all, just pissed that i wasted all that time

at least now i don't have to cruise, gonna get some bloods and legit tren this time.

what's a good oral to run with tren, drol or what? Don't like dbol at all, dat methyl estrogen

>>38813921
Thanks for the answer, I don't think I will be roiding anytime soon. I have plenty of lean muscle mass so I would not take it for any muscle gain. I've heard roids can help you recover and prevent injury which is a good reason for me to consider them.

I always figured I'd hop on a low dose when natural T starts to drop, but who knows what will happen.

>>38813982
Do you know any of the results of these studies, health-wise?

>>38814003
Pretty sure masteron was taken off the market for how severely it virilizes women.

Anadrol is a miracle drug for muscle wasting and in ratios of 1-2mg/kg can be taken indefinitely.

Anybody else think steroids being illegal is a Jewish conspiracy? They want people to be docile and easily controlled which is why I think they don't want steroids or be legal. It's literally a natural hormone that is needed for optimal health. Oh and if any girl want to be a slut she is prescribed steroids without a question (estrogen / birth control). Oh but if a guy wants steroids he is mentally ill and a criminal. The Jews also stigmatize steroids tremendously in the media and classroom. And they have done a great job at making people deathly scared of steroids. All my friends drink alcohol and drop Molly at parties, but if they knew I was pinning they would look at me like a homeless crack addict even though all the drugs they do are far more dangerous.

>>38814026
No. It's just out dated Cold War era politics and joe Biden being a pussy

>>38814019
> Because of its 17α-alkylated structure, oxymetholone is highly hepatotoxic. Long term use of the drug can cause a variety of serious ailments, including hepatitis, liver cancer, and cirrhosis;

>>38814043
Look at the studies. There are children that have taken Adrol for years.

Any way to make pinning VG feel less awkward?

Weird angle kinda made my hand shake when squeezing the plunger, and I feel like the needle moved around and cut me up a little bit.

Really wanna minimize scar tissue since Id like to do this long term. Thanks gents.

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>>38814026
Be honest
You frauds don't want the playing field to be even.

Otherwise you wouldn't feel special or mired if every bro was on gear.

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hmm, should I order some raws and homebrew or just buy the finished vials? I was only going to pickup some mast e, tren e, and deca for muh shitty joints.

or maybe I should forget about the tren + mast and just drop it on trest ace

>>38814063
I'm sure you could find some alcoholics who are in fine health but that doesn't mean it would be a very good idea for me to binge drink every day

>>38814071
Yeah I kinda agree. But it really is more common than you might think.

>>38814083
Yeah I would say at least 10% of people at my college gym on on Roids. It's pretty easy to tell when someone has massive bulging delts and back acne lol

>>38814082
Lol okay you're asking about risk management on taking gear.

You could just not take hear if you want to be healthy. There's a health risk. The science shows there's little evidence to support Adrol being as toxic as claimed. If you argued sdrol I'd say yes.

You asked and I provided. You can't equate 50-100mg of Adrol to binge drinking either. The sides just aren't as bad as rhetoric says. Science supports that you can use these drugs in a minimally unhealthy manner.

>>38814034
That's a Bingo

But I would also say there's some drug war bullshit there as well. The blatantly false anti-drug information is at its worse when it comes to education on steroids.

>>38814105

the freaking commercial chain gym i work out at has warning signs all over the bathroom telling people not to buy/sell roids there or pin themselves/pin others there. they don't hire enough employees so nobody would go in there to check. i've seen needles in the trash and showers.

>>38814149
Lol try not to catch hepatitis bro

>>38814082
You're a fucking moron.

>>38814141
There definately is a government conspiracy to stigmatize steroids more than drugs though, how else can you explain MDMA being seen as normal with college age kids when it literally causes fucking brain lesions? The general public sees steroids as just as bad as Heroin and Meth when steroids are safely used by millions of people in the US? How many people get addicted to steroids and become homeless and have to suck dick to get more steroid money? Besides MasT of course

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>>38814149
>needles in the trash and showers.
If I caught someone doing that shit I would tear their degenerate asshole open and shove the needles in sideways. Holy fuck I hate people like that.

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>>38814199
>Besides MasT of course
kek
Agreed, though. I've been able to educate a couple of people, but bringing it up most of the time results in a string of bullshit.
I'm not even on (and there's no question about that), so I get some weird looks when I talk about it with the passion I do.

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>>38813896

you literally have no idea what you're talking about

>>38813921

the problem with saying aas-induced lvh this and ejection fraction that is there's no real data on the actual clinical implications of either, sure you can throw some vague correlations together from completely different tenuously related disease processes but it becomes a problem of determining morbidity vs comorbidity and everything else on down from there

atherosclerosis is probably the only other really profound thing and honestly there's a lot more determination via diet, exercise, and most importantly just sheer genetic predisposition

plus statins are a thing, too

>>38814026

how about go crawl the fuck back to /pol/ with the rest of the emasculated, neurotic retards whining about the jews keeping you down and the niggers stealing your women

>>38814082
>>38814127

ethanol hepatoxicity, choleostasis, and eventual cirrhosis are fucking light years more profound than 17α-methylated steroids

>>38814141

blame the east germans

>>38814199

yes how dare people be fucking terrible at logical risk assessment, especially fucking teenagers

>>38814281
You realize teenagers think MDMA is fine because it is portrayed as cool and hip in the media right? There are tons of popular songs and music videos about doing MDMA. And who controls the media? Really makes you think huh?

>>38814330
I eat Molly like candy and look at me

>>38814199
>literally causes fucking brain lesions
No it doesn't. The scans showing "holes" are pictures of bloodflow measuring brain activity. No mdma isn't good for you but come on man.

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>>38814341
You just made his case

>>38814341
>>38814345
Ok well my point is the media and government 100% control what drugs are stigmatized and what drugs are seen as cool and healthy. If popular rappers suddenly started making songs about how awesome steroids are then steroids would instantly become far more accepted in society. It's obvious the elite have an interest in keeping people from doing steroids.

>>38814375
That's the joke
>>38814345
also this.

I don't think anyone can dispute the neurotoxicity of mdma in high doses or prolonged use, but it doesn't eat your brain.

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>>38814069
G-guys?

>>38814341
>tfw named molly

Wew bimbo dirty boy

>>38814199
Well, I think a large majority of drugs are played up as more dangerous than they are by moralizing busybodies, and this includes MDMA.

MDMAs benefits outweigh its positives for the part drug type of person. That's the whole reason people take it. It really does open you up.

And the brain lesions thing is total bullshit. Like "10% of your brain" bullshit. Like "tongue map" bullshit.

>>38814149
gross, the gym is the last place I want to be doing an injection. I wonder why those people aren't just doing it at home.

>>38814390
SHUT UP WE TALKING BOUT MOLLY

>>38814383
No. Just follow the money dude.

Steroids aren't conducive or are less conducive to a consumerist lifestyle. It's not a plot to make you nu male, you're just broken already and need an answer that isn't you.

The fact is party drugs will always be conducive to a club or hip hop scene because they're drugs that precipitate a spending lifestyle.

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>>38814199
>government conspiracy
>yet such things as blatant as mr olympia, fake natty models on IG, fraudulent supplement ads using roided models somehow still exist and perpetuate a billion dollar industry

zog pls go

>>38814408
Right? Jesus. Even if you live with roommates, just get up early and lock the bathroom door. Why risk driving that shit around?

>>38814396
I tested clean yesterday.

>>38814281
Sure I do faggot. Been here longer than you. And trust me. I know what shills try to get away with shit here.

Tl;dr
Suck my dick fat ass

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>>38814390
>tfwnogf

>>38814418
yeah while claiming natty retard and everyone believes it cuz of the roid stigma

>>38814426
I'd prefer to eat Rachel like candy.

>>38814390
If you"re pinning standing up, try lying down.

Other then that work on your flexibility, or pin some place easier to reach.

>>38814396
I married a gril named Molly.
She was an unhinged sloot too. lol

>>38814416
Seriously, the whole "fitness industry" is the pettiest conspiracy I've ever seen. Everyone geared up, all claiming natural. It's prove that distributed conspiracies can exist.

>>38814397
>>38814387
>>38814345
Doing MDMA a few times a year is probably fine, but the facs are MDMA is extremely neurotoxic and will permanently fuck your brain if you do it frequently. And that's not even mentioning the fact that like 90% of Molly is cut with dangerous RC's

>>38814446
It's not s conspiracy. People just want their jobs.

>>38814434
What are you trying to say? I don't speak nagger blooded speak

>>38814462
What's going on with the fitness/supplement industry is literally the exact definition of a conspiracy you mong

>>38812857

I believe most people would call them brats because I prefer them to be 16-18 years old ;^)

>>38814514
Lol okay except nothing about it is insidious or malevolent in nature it's just capitalism

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>>38814521
Fucking pedo

>>38814521
I like them older like 20

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>>38814528
>it's just capitalism

>>38813199

>hating

Not at all, I just think they look like monkeys and are generally worthless. No sense keeping them around at all.

>>38814462
No, no, no, you don't see the beauty of it. Everyone is is working for their own self interest: Not losing sponsorships, getting a fanbase, being allowed to compete in the major federations, etc. But despite that everyone is doing the same illegal (Yes I know roids shouldn't be, and they aren't immoral) activity, and covering it up, no one inside of the fitness enthusiasts ever really goes out of their way to try and show the degree of gear usage, for fear of becoming a pariah. A true conspiracy; but distributed across thousands of peoples individual decisions.

>>38814528
It doesn't have to be malevolent, it just has to be the mass cover up of an illegal activity.

>>38814547
How about 21?

>>38814514

Not really. Conspiracy requires active collusion between people.

>>38814554
People like scooby and blaha do try to expose all the fake Natties though

>>38814462

It's just fraud. False advertisement etc... But it's no conspiracy. It's Just that they all come to the same, valid, conclusion.

Selling gear is a huge no, so if we want legal money we need to keep up the charade.

>>38814545
>pedo
>puberty+

Pick one

>>38814547

And innocent as fuck too.

>>38814571
They're niche, without a big audience and make money off of adsense, and not directly from sponsorships.

Also, Scooby is on TRT.

>>38814570
> a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful
Sounds accurate to me, the fitness industry is trying to sell people harmful supplements while unlawfully and secretly taking steroids

>>38814594
No I don't like innocent I like them corrupted

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>>38814604
this

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>>38814608

You don't like innocent yet easily corrupted?

How do you get your boners!

>>38814627
By having a thicc Asian girl sit on my cock and stroke my hair while I suck on her lactating titties

>>38814604

Not a plan. They didn't plan anything.

That's like saying people buying cheap and selling it for more is a conspiracy as well.

>harmful supplements

Hardly.

They're covering up something harmful to do something harmless but it wasn't planned.

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>>38814642

Fragile white chicks pls.

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>>38814594
>pick one
Okay

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>>38814670

That's definitely puberty just with budding breasts instead of disgusting jugs Jerr.

>>38814657
No no no

Get that thicc Asian with plump lips that you can push on the floor, choke until she passes out and take like an animal in heat whenever you please.

Maybe there's a reason she doesn't like me lmao

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>>38814646
Uhh what? All these sketchy over the counter Supplements are likely far more harmful than just cruising on Test E. You know that JACK3D was banned for having grey market amphetamine analogues right? All these supplements have approximately 0% testing or quality control. Whereas gear on r/sst is heavily tested and scrutinized. Are you a shill or what?

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>>38814684

Big eyes, nice lips, qt face.

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mouse steroids

>>38814699
Dmaa was reviewed by the fda and it's fine

>>38814704
fraud

>>38814707
It's pending in the courts at the moment.

https://blog.priceplow.com/dmaa-supplements/lawsuit

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>>38814677
Beautiful budding breasts!

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>>38813099
>>38813119
>>38813443
Fuck.
Thanks, it's the answer I expected though.

I've taken upwards 200mg of it to no avail.

Last time I made sleepytime tea, added 5 ounces zzzquil, 3 ounces vodka, few scoops of Iron Dreams, 100mg sublingual melatonin, fapped, then tossed and turned for another 4-5 hours before passing out.

No help getting me to sleep, but I do feel like utter shit trying to wake up from whatever bout of sleep I'm eventually afforded.
>>38814149

>>38814807
200mg? Fucking why? They're sold in like 3-5mg pills what the fuck were you trying to do?

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>>38814870
Fall the fuck asleep apparently.
You can get them in 10mg.

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>>38814697

More.

>>38814699

Amphetamines at a low dose are no more likely to harm you than test-e. You're demoni

>>38814460

>extremely

No, that's mda.

>cut

In freedomland maybe

>>38814909
You built resistance. If you use it too much it's not effective.

>>38814807

Melatonin does fuck all for me either, but 200 at once is retarded.

Take 1mg 2-3 hours pre bed. 3-6mg right before. If that doesnt work take benzos.

>>38814807
weed and/or valerian root extract (+tea because why not)

fapping is lame and saps your vital energy (once in a while is fine but ED is kinda gross)

make sure your valerian root caps are actually digesting. bite them before swallowing to be safe

or just hit ESTP up for advice on how to score vitamin H

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>>38814980
No, I'd worked my way up to that in less than a week when lower doses did nothing. (After making sure it wouldn't kill me.)
>>38814986
Might try to get back into meditation.
>>38814987
Will look into valerian root, thanks.
No H for me but I'd like to have her slob on my knob.

>>38814980

>Melatonin resistance

/Fraud/ pls. It's not a drug it's a hormone.

Where the weed at?

>>38815094
no source talk

and yes, test only is the recommended first cycle

>>38815132
Might as well throw some insulin in there though, helps get the best out of a cycle.

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>>38812245
>2years

Better luck next time

>>38815149
Hahahahah don't do this.

I put on so much size in my back in 2 months and 1 week of roiding that I now have trouble turning around and sticking a needle in my ass. I have 3 weeks of roids left, and I'm stretching as much as I can to improve my flexibility.
Remember to stretch bros.

>>38815212
Oh, also, any suggestions for stretches to be more flexible in turning around?
My gf makes fun of me.

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>>38814987
>fapping is lame and saps your vital energy
>and saps your vital energy
>vital energy

>>38815234
It's just some chi bullshit.

So obviously if you are passed the natty peak and taking steroids to get beyond that you will not be able to keep those gains after you stop cycling.

But, what if you take steroids up to what is potentially your natural limit? Do those gains just zip away as well when you come off cycle or is it easier to keep them?

>>38815086
Either way, if you take it too much, it's less effective. Use it 2-3 times a week. Everyday like my friend does and it won't work.

>>38815073
I used to try to induce lucid dreaming. Lay flat, don't move, breath deeply and release, and most import of all.. Don't think about anything besides your conscience staying awake.

>>38815296
What you keep is dependent on how fast you can get your natty levels back while having a perfect diet and training hard during the recovery period.

>>38815337

If you take too much it doesnt work.

Taking the correct amount for years does not change it's effectiveness.

It's just that for most people melatonin has a placebo effect. Believe you need to cycle it..

>>38815379

Or you take clen, dnp and less suppressing sarms + hgh when you come off or something.

>>38815360
I just focus on the patterns on my eyelids or practice imagining getting out of bed and going to work; going over and imaging every exact detail.

>>38815414

Stare at the ceiling and nostalgia all over the place.

Though that usually ends up backfiring.

>>38815454
That's just my life

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>>38815477

Thatsthejoke.jpg

Same here.

>>38815521
Damn too many similarities

How real is aromatization?

Do obese people basically have zero testosterone at all?

Thanks to the anon who said to use head and shoulders shampoo on delt acne, fucking gone in a week
Only reason I hate dbol and run it low is cuz of acne

>>38814570

this is the key to conspiracy: active collusion. what we see in many industries is tacit collusion, where actors are not actively communicating or promising to do anything, but look at each other's behavior and act collectively. that is not a conspiracy.

>>38815230
Yoga.
That shit is intense

>girl asks you if you are new to tinder
what do I reply??

>>38816005

>what answer gets me [x]

>>38816005
Whatever the fuck you want to.

If you don't want to e seen like a man slut day yes. Or say something like "no, but I'm still looking for the right one"

So about to start my first cycle but extremely anxious, are there any permanent side effects from just cruising on 250mg of test for a few months? And my natty test levels should be fine as long as I do a proper PCT with clomid and HCG right? I don't really care about gyno or bloating because those things can be fixed, but I really don't want to permanently JUST myself like that face tumor guy. So seriosuly 250mg per week is safe right? What are some dangerous side effects to look out for? So far I know I need to watch out for abcesses, chest pain, and I'm gonna get my bloods done once a month. Thanks for all the help though guys, this general is mostly a great resource (minus the shitposting)

Anyone ever tried pinning subq instead of im? I'd imagine that it would be pretty shit because it would be absorbed more slowly and you would be able to pin less volume.

>>38815876
Aromatization isn't dependent on your current body fat percentage, but rather how fat you've been in the past. When you lose body fat, you are metabolizing triglycerides stored in adipocytes. The cells themselves, aromatase enzymes and all, remain.

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>>38816123
please shut the fuck up

>>38816092
1. HCG would probably be overkill for a 250mg/week cruise
2. The only absolutely safe dose of steroids is zero. The chances of you having serious issues on 250mg/wk are very, very low if you're not an idiot, but it depends on so many genetic and personal factors that you can't ever say for sure that something is safe. Get regular bloods, be safe, see a physician if you're worried about something, and don't believe everything you read on a Kazakh shitposting forum.

>>38816145
Is anything I said wrong? Even if you get to a low bf% you literally still dont lose fat cells, they just shrink in size

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>>38816145

>>38816161
Ok so what are some things that potentially could go wrong on a 250mg cruise though? I'm not an idiot but obviously I have no real experience with steroids so I don't know that much except from what I have read online. Most of the stuff I read about people having liver failure and strokes and palumboism and shit is just from people running like crazy year long HGH, Anadrol, and Tren cycles right?

>>38816212

>crazy year long HGH, Anadrol, and Tren

Kek. Sounds like fraud desu.

>>38814444

whoa, the idea to pin while lying down never entered my head. i'm pretty stupid.

i pinned delt today for the first time in months, and holy fuck does it hurt. the pin went in smooth as butter, but i think i pushed the 1.5 mL of oil in way too fast.

Ok can someone explain what the fuck this picture is? What the fuck is wrong with reddit?

How do you look exactly the same after 12 weeks of tren? Was it just bunk tren? I would imagine even eating like shit on it would change your physique, albeit for the worse, right?

ESTP were you born a man?

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>>38816248

>>38816212
Realistically, the worst thing that could happen is you fuck up pinning and give yourself an access or systematic infection. Maybe you aromatize like fuck and will grow tits but that's unlikely on 250mg/wk and you said you don't really care about that.

On the "rare as fuck" end of the spectrum, you could have an undiagnosed heart condition and the temporary AAS-related heart enlargement causes Some kind of arrhythmia/death. Or your endocrine system hates you and decides not to start endogenous test production after you stop. Both of those are possible but vanishingly unlikely.

>>38816259
btw he ran it at fucking 575mg tren ace apparently... like WHAT

>>38816225
What do you guys think rich piana runs? I'm thinking at least 2g Test and 1g Tren per week, probably a ton of Orals too. It actually makes me feel a lot better that he has lived so long, if he can survive literal cattle tier doses of steroids I'll probably be fine on my 250mg baby cruise

>>38815379

too bad for me i'm low test so even if i get back to my natty levels quickly, it's just getting back to not much quickly

>>38816249
That would only make me want to fuck her more tbqh, as long is she is pre op. No idea why so many beautiful traps cut off their cute little sissy clits, it's such a tragedy

>>38816123
Is this true?

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>>38816274
Literally this

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Can this be achieved and maintained purely on 250mg cruises/500mg test blasts?

It is my goal body

>>38816303
Nope

>>38816313
yea if you're 5'2 or whatever he was

>>38816274

Less test, more everything else. + gh + slin

More grams isn't going to do more at some point, stronger compounds will. Add gh and slin and you can up gear again.

>>38816315
Explain how it works then

>>38816313
Looks like a body you could have natty desu.

>>38816313

Should be. Unless you're freakishly tall.

>>38816321
What if I'm 6feet?

>>38816341

Probably.