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Should I up the dosage of 85mg tren 85 test prop eod if sides aren't bad?

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Charlotte's going hard tonight. Already 1 dead.

Been 1 week with the tren btw

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BEST VAR CYCLE TO GET THIS?

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5th for bimbo is a crybaby

When I decided to hand in my natty card I had no idea how long a vial of test c would last at 500mg/week.
And I bought so many.

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>>38803428
I'll finally be able to run around town shirtless with an axe pretending im Rollo if a racewar breaks out.

>>38803425
>>38803447
No. Don't go looking for sides.

>>38803464
10-20mg Anavar split twice a day for 8-12 weeks.
Look into running a SARM instead, I've had female clients make great progress with LGD-4033.

How do I convince my doctor to prescribe me testosterone? My levels are "borderline" low. I'm awaiting yet another blood test to confirm my low levels.

In for laughing at how pathetic bimbo is for letting 1 woman ruin his life

>>38803520
And still I get my dick wet

>>38803548
Thanks I'll just stay 300mg for each a week

>>38803558
The tears fall somewhere faggot

>>38803573
Keep it up. Make me feel worse.

>>38803594
You masochist. You come on 4chan and trip. You have an identity amongst a sea of grey and that makes you stand out.
People that stand out are, and always will be easy targets for anybody insecure enough to shoot, or bored enough to start problems

>>38803619
Okay? I'm literally asking for more.

>>38803632
What I don't get
Is why you came here acting like a fucking alpha, acting like you could get any guilt you want, like you had life sorted out so easy
But then really you're just a beta bitch who lets the one girl ruin you over and over again

>>38803656
It was sorted out. Never claimed alpha. I do get every girl I want but one.

>>38803656
On top of that he was sent into a depression spree that still resonates.
there are fucking millions of people, and just can't manage to see past any of your problems point blank.

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>>38803344
Well you probably don't put on much weight.

But that's strong af, you perma cruising?

>>38803375
I only speak total calories and macros.
How long you been on?
So you were smaller than 190lbs before?

Can't wait for this shit to kick in.

>>38803396
I rather a realdoll.
Pillow is cheaper.

>>38803428
Nogs are at it again?
Canadian ones are too busy fucking all the white women to cause much trouble.

:/

Race war when?

How do I get steroids
And how much will my dick shrink
When will I be able to pass drug test (planning on going military)

Thanks faggots

>>38803703
I've basically been on tren since March.

>>38803717
1st your dick will not shrink. Your not getting tested for steroids. Do research this is not a source board. Ever heard of Reddit?

>>38803533
do you not know 3rd grade math?

>>38803754
It's fraud

>>38803754
I didn't know the volume of substance in each bottle

>>38803774
Delete this or you'll get banned.
Anon left plenty of breadcrumbs. Track them to the bread.

>>38803732
Do u still see gains after that long?

>>38803791
I don't know how to respond to this.

>>38803788
Baleted

>>38803806
I'm wondering if your body is still responding after that long or if your body has adjusted?

>>38803831
>>38803806

yea dude eventually if you run gear, including tren, for long enough, you'll basically be making natty gains!!!! the gains slow down dude until they stop!!!! homeostasis bro!!!

hur fucking dur!!

>>38803831
It's been a weird summer and I lost some traction. Lifted maybe 4x a week all of June. Lifted more steadily in July. Didn't lift all of August.

Back in the habit of twice a day, seven days a week now. Still no appetite. Still no sleep.

>>38803732
Your not a sweat drenched insomniac?
From all the anecdotes on here, tren does not seem like a cruise drug.

You probably could clench your glutes hard enough to rip a dick off that was fucking you.

You should "accidentally" do this your next porn.

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Has anybody ever gotten bunk/fake test?

20 min away from Charlotte, should i pin some tne and start the race war?

>>38803859
Tren just makes me look sharp for shoots.

It's not a cruise drug, I just don't care anymore.

I am a sweet drenched insomniac. 4-5x a week In August I'd wake up to my ex on top of me in bed, kissing my face and holding me because I was screaming and sobbing in my sleep.

Same thing happened Saturday night with that other girl at the hotel.

Where do you guys get the juice?

>>38803849
The condescension needed?
A lot of pros say they cycle because of this.

>>38803851
Ah.
Answered my question.
So apart from a 3 plate incline press, what are your PRs?

And do you split your two a days into upper/lower?

>>38803886
>pros
>cycle

hahahahahaaa

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>>38803886
This was yesterday. No food no pump, with only a week back in the gym.

235 at 6'4

315 incline is my best I guess. I have a decent bob row at 3 plate x 8. I lateral raise 45s for 16, I guess. Squat 225x20.

I do isolations in the am and then DUP in the evening. 5 day split; heavy upper, heavy lower, chest delt tri hypertrophy, back bi hypertrophy, lower hypertrophy.

Sometimes I throw in power work after my isos.

>>38803929
dude please work your core for the love of fucking shit

and why do you hide your face in the pics when your gay porn scenes get posted everywhere anyway. lol

>>38803938
I don't hide my face, I just didn't have my face in the picture.

>>38803929
Looking good still.

>>38803881
Big guy at Popeyes.
Shhhh.

>>38803877
Well shit.

So when should I start using my asin, granted that no E2 sides show up?

I was thinking 6.25mg EOD as of 5th week.

Apparently it makes test more effective.
Something to do with lowering SHBG, making test more bioavailable.

>>38803951
I take 12.5mg on Tuesdays and Thursday's

>>38803894
Well Panini said...
Although I think his idea of "off" is blasting 2500iu of HCG EoD.

>>38803929
Lean as hell.
Tiny waist.

No diddlies?

>>38803963
Your shit has definitely "kicked in" since March lol.

I'm just putting it off as I just have 50 tabs of 12.5 and I spent enough already and still haven't put money on my PCT.
Plus I'm picking up a third test vial for a more well rounded cycle.

>>38803963
what are you on right now?

>tfw 100mg cruise

fuck my life

>>38803996
This is me fat.

>>38804008
525 test
525 tra
400 tre (ace will be done in about 2 weeks)
400 eq

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>>38804019
so bimbo i don't think you've commented on this yet

HOT OR NOT. IF YOU SAY NOT YOU MUST BE BLIND

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>>38803929
>>38804013

no, I'm fat you

like seriously

keep the same weight and shrink 4", double your ab/oblique/tva development (esp obliques, gdi), and flip 5lbs into fat around your core

need to get somebody to take a side profile pic of me friday after diddlies and general back shit, I think that my upper body depth dogpiles with my core development (plus the fatness) to skew my chest/shoulder/lat width

>>38804119
I used to be big like you

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>>38803402
got strong pip on my quad still after 12hours
virgin muscle
is normal?

>>38804155
Yes. That shit could last for days.

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>>38804170
glad to know
thanks

TREN ACE TRANSFORMATION week 1,, you will feel pumped but insted of bloofy feel of testosterona pump you will have the feeling of pump from the inside of the muscle while the more self knowing individuals who recognize changes fast will notice their face ...yes their face taking a diff look ,,they will be the only ones who notice it ,, it is something you notice personaly since it is only the beggining and no one else that see you will notice ,,they will think you are crazy if you tell them anythign so keep it to yourself,, face iwll start getting the high boxer type of look,,hard to explain ,, it is week one so nothing visual yet aside from pump ...tremendous strength and i mean tremendous! big diff than what you were before ,,and when you will expect to see your midsection bloat...and say something is not right here the belly got to be bloated...you will take your shirt up and notice that no! it is actualy looking tighter!,, yes yes this is week 1! since you are 12% you wont see much more ,,obliqes will start being noticed well and the girl will comliment that this is the area of the body she like the most right before she sucking your cock,, she wil comment on it because she wil be able to see it on you : ),, remember this is after 3-7 injects of trenbolona ace into blood at 100mg every inject

week 2-3 this is when progress being made and you start seeing your body transforms ,, still nothing like a pro bodybuild...nothing like top amatuer....but! you will start noticing that the pecs and delts are seperating,, they reduce fat yet remain full and start getting seperated as in water go into the muscle insted of outside of muscle,, this is a stage where you will still have water between skin and muscle so it wont be to an impressive level seperation wize,,but! the seperation will occure and in this 2-3 weeks try not to be crazy and dont take pictures every day ,, take them few times a weeek not every day you will go nuts,, trenbolona changes are only daily for the single digit fellas and the 8% and under,,so for you since you started 12% and now you are about 10-11.. try to not take many pictures every day because at this bodyfat levels pictures can be deciving ...one time you look great one time you look decent etc ,, not good comparisons,, at the end of this stage you will sit at high single digit sub 10%,, 9-10%

So once I find a reliable source from leddit how do I actually order? Do I email the user and talk from there or what?

week 4-8... this is when you will start getting comliments not only on how BIG YOU LOOK but you will start hearing the word LEAN ,, you will walk around and you will hear alot of wondering of how you got so lean ,, no one will say skinny ,, no one will say small ,, they will all use the word LEAN ,, lean this lean that,, still not thickly lean ,, the thickly lean comes little after down the road,, in this stage you get the YOU LOOK LEAN MAN comments,, this is when veins start becoming very visible in places you are not used to while sitting watching tv you will see veins on back of legs on forarms on inside of forarms on arms on traps on chest,, everywhere again it depend on how prone to veins you are but you will see the veins you have enhanced! ,,you will also get more serpeated and it will be to a level that when you take pictures you finaly will decide to keep them and wil feel very bad to delete them because they will look very good

week 9 and on ... this is what seperate the REAL bodybuild from the wanna be ,, this is where the true mutation coming into play and you really start looking like magazine fella,, it is when you dont need to flex to see the seperated muscle in all its glory ,, it is when you stand and get compliments all over about how YOU ARE BOTH THICK AND LEAN aka YOU GET INTO A ZONE CALLED RIPPED AND THEN A BETTER ZONE CALLED SHREDDED,

>>38804224
you have to place your order via shortwave radio broadcast using binary encryption
what do you think dummy

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>>38804131

trade me rotator cuffs, elbows, and hips

every little goddamn asterisk in my logbook where I've had to cut sets, reps, or like whole exercises just to skirt (re)injury makes me die a little inside

>>38804224

this is one of those built-in idiot checks

>>38804250
Heard before the sources have their own sites to order from but haven't seen any. That's why I asked.

I'm going on first cycle soon.

12 weeks 500mg test e per week, tues and sat pins
12.5mg aromasin on pin days
50mg tbol every day for first 4 weeks
Weeks 13 and 14 off
Nolva 40/40/20/20 with continued aromasin e3.5d

Is this decent? Should I up aromasin or not run it during pct?

>>38804271
>trade me rotator cuffs, elbows, and hips
jacked up from lifting or army life?

NEW CYCLE NEW ME BOYS DAY 1

>>38804317
pics or gtfo

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>>38804282

go from zero consistent lifting for 3+ years to 495*/405/605+** (breaking old prs by 100-150+lbs) in a little under a year, cutting I don't even know how much fat, and adding ~40lbs? of muscle

all primarily on 250mg/wk of serbian pharma test, and this is just week 4 of 350mg vet tren/400mg mast e/450mg trest deca

army shit sure as fuck didn't help anything, but yeah

* left hip flexor injury fucked my already garbage low bar for 3-4 months
** last 605 pull was suuper fucking clean and 3ish months ago

>>38804250
Call is "the baby has AIDS!"

>>38804279
Perfect beginner cycle. Take the aromasin as needed. Do not use it during pct

I just creampied a Taiwanese girl visiting my country

hopefully she goes back with a little mini-me inside her. she's leaving in like 18 hours though so I'll never find out

>>38804484
Yeah she's gonna use that as an anchor baby. Enjoy the next nine months before she comes back.

>>38804279
I'd run another month, 16 weeks total at least.

Muscle takes time to build, even on steroids. You'll get better results by allowing yourself time to grow into your new gains.

>>38804509
>implying she could ever find me back
met her on OkC, she doesn't even know my name

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>>38804170
one more
any harm if i jab in same quad to prevent this pain or use another?

>>38804550
Pick another spot

>>38804346
It will never happen

>>38804170
You're alright already m8?

How are your feeling?

ps; don't listen to these dyels, they can't help it they're inferior to us.

where do you get gear?

>>38804564
I feel like shit. It's either numb or rage. I'm overreacting like a pussy but this was the one girl to feel like home.

Also I'm dyel

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>>38804484
Jelly af

>>38804550
Pin elsewhere

>>38804580
>Also I'm dyel
Stop this

>>38804584
whats that?

>>38804580
I know that feel unfortunately. Fucking hormones only make it worse sometimes. Makes you feel like a big pussy. Even the big boys like us got feelings

What are you on currently?

>>38804600
See above pic.

>>38803683

i think he's had deep psychological issues that this breakup really managed to expose and bring to the forefront of his life

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>>38804606
Google

>>38804611
Test tren and eq.

I realized today that every time I've lashed at her or impulsively texted her what a bitch she is for her behaviors, I've been on tren.

I used to just be able to ignore her, no contact, for weeks until she crawled back. Tren makes me impulsive, hostile and overly passionate.

Then it amplifies how much of a pussy I feel because I care so much and let it cut so deep.

>>38804624
I've always had mild depression and anxiety. Hormones coupled with an abusive relationship has just exacerbated my conditions. Porn, a selfish girl and tren, have really undermined my self worth. I feel I mean nothing to the person I put so much effort into.

I agree with you.

>>38804250

jesus just spend a little bit of time reading and you'll figure it out. they even have a wiki and everything.

>>38804633
How do I order this with the onion?

>>38804271

i haven't been able to front squat with any decent weight for months. i really enjoyed front squats, so this is starting to get beyond annoying.

maybe i should go see a physio

>>38804584
>>38804664
S T O P
T
O
P

enough with the darknet for gear meme, jesus christ.

>>38804714
Its easier and has escrow but more expensive

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>>38804684

gonna take a wild guess and say that you fucked something up in your quad or hip flexor that healed eventually but the scar tissue is making your shit freak the fuck out

good sports medicine place should be able to identify exactly what happened when your body decided to keep it real, then help break down and reintegrate the scarred tissues so you can slow and steady work your way back up

fwiw I'm barely doing north of 225 for 8s as assistance work after low bar, shit's gay

>>38804013
If you're fat I'm obese.
According to BMI I am.
...

You fat slag.

>>38804155
Certainly seems like it is brother.
What I want to know is if we build a tolerance.

>>38804271
Are your injuries all from steroid overconfidence? Ah already answered >>38804391

>>38804473
Might there not be benefits to using aromasin alongside nolva during PCT?
It's been noted on studies as synergistic, and I figure it would help prevent the acne breakouts common during PCT.

>>38804515
A cycle prolonged to 16 weeks would necessitate a more intensive PCT correct?

Asking for anon and myself.

Originally was going to do twelve weeks using two vials meaning that the first few weeks would have been 250mg, after some roasting here and reflection that led me to buy another vial.

I was wondering if I would be better off running a few more 500mg weeks or rather keeping cycle short and doing a few 750mg weeks.

>>38804473
What about my 2 weeks off?

I decided on just neat bourbon.

>>38804636
Yeah i know. But we all know that ignoring is the best thing you can you indeed. It's something they will go insane about.

The more you give them attention, more power they get.

Hope you get your shit together m8

>>38804849
Yeah I know. I feel like this time it's final.

None of my friends think so.

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>>38804781
>Are your injuries all from steroid overconfidence?

only legitimate injury is the hip which is down to me being a fucking jackass and neglecting my stretching, shoulders/elbows/etc are just the result of being a neurotic hypervigilant fuck about pushing my body to just before the breaking point and tapdancing on that line like I'm trying out for the fucking riverdance like I said here >>38804271

>>38804856
Hey bimbo we talked last time about spiritual practice an shiet.

Discover anything new/interesting in that part of your life lately?

>>38804856
But you want her back don't ya? They know that. That's why they playin

At least you're not dyel and ugly like the rest of these faggots here, thus you will have another pussy hanging around in no time. I'm sure. Soon you will think about this moment and laugh about it.

Woll ell geunne moke et breh

>>38804873
All that weight though.
Why isn't there gear to make our tendons and joints keep up with our muscles.

It's cool you soldier on despite the setbacks.

>>38804916
I'm beginning to think that jerry fellow is right.

How do I lower my testosterone so I can be a cute girl

ty

-sven

>>38804916
Nah. A lot of them are saying don't let her back in, she'll fuck shit up. I've been talking to her ex; wereveskimo brothers three times over lol.

He's like "dude she's never done. 90% chance she reaches out. You'll hook up again". My boy who's a behavioral analyst is like "I know you two you're like s time bomb. Eventually she's just gonna say you raped her".

I'm like Ron and she's my Tammy 2.

Yes. I do want her back.

Has anyone ever started a cycle at 25% bodyfat? I wan't to continue cutting weight but I am sitting here fondling my test vials with the biggest erection ever. Plz stop me

>>38804977
Start now and you'll be fondling your tits in two months time.

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>>38804974
>tfw you will never be this cute

>>38804995
true...ugh...maybe I can bulk after feb...ima start cutting calories really hard

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>>38805003
either but only if you have a vagoo

>>38804916
I've had a bunch of girls hanging off me. I met up with a few and crushed them already. Spiked confidence a bit. Now I'm as bad as that girl.

>>38805022
Are there less sides and gains with sarms then var for females?

LGD or Ostarine?

>>38805005
I'm no veteran here, but it won't bode well for your cycle if you don't even have the dedication to cut fat.

A firm grasp of nutrition will be beneficial to your gains.

And don't be a retard.
Chances are if you cut down from 25% to say 12% you'll be very eager to get on, and once you get on your inner fat fuck will think you have carte blanche to stuff your face with everything you want, basically reverting to the mentally that made you a fat fuck in the first place.

>>38805046
I lost 70 pounds and I've been yo-yoing ever since. I wish I could find the discipline again man...I GOTTA STOP EATING SHIT GOD DAMNIT WHY DO I DO THIS

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>>38805044
sarms are generally considered stronger afaik

anything above 20-30mg var and they'll see sides, but pic related is only 5mg var ed

var is really all you need unless you wanna go bearmode

>>38804797
Go by how u feel during that time

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>>38805022
thats hot

>>38804976
Do what makes you happy. Nobody can decide that for you.

>>38805032
You see, that's what I am talking about. No need to worry.

>>38804974
Spiractolone
Estro
Prolactin

>>38805058
Because shit taste good.
Just got to see further than that bowl of mac and cheese.

You've already got test on hand, that should mean you're ready to level up.
You've worked really hard before and you can keep on doing it.
That 70lbs was nothing.
Burn the rest.
And then get ready to ascend.
You're going to make it bro.

>>38805120
I hated all of them. Felt wrong. Couldn't get hard.

Waiting for this girlie to reach out.

>>38805121
ty jerry! Are these things that you'd normally see in prescribed hrt?

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>>38805087
yep, just get a reputable source and get it tested if you can't

your only concerns will be buying overpriced winstrol, low dose dbol if it's a really bad source, or really underdosed var

pic related is var+lgd, dont remember the doses izzy took but it was only a couple cycles

women respond to gear so well

>>38805134
Yep

Those are the main 3, spir is your anti-androgen, there are others but that's the most popular one

>>38805157

Oh oki, ty jerry. What about cypro? I hear people say that it works really well or something

By the way, hows the crossdressing thing going?

>>38804781
PCT isnt an exact science.

That said, people usually split <20 weeks and >20weeks as needing a more or less aggressive PCT.

Just understand that PCT isnt really fully understood but certain SERMs seem to work well and you're 90% there.

>>38805208
Spiro is a diuretic, and cypro isn't is the difference iirc.
They work slightly differently like adex vs Asin, down to personal preference imo

It's the best way for me to get off instantly
It's incredible

>>38803867
Test is dirt cheap, people have no reason to fake it

>>38804966
>gear to make our tendons and joints keep up with our muscles
Deca and HGH

Cool. My ex just went on a date with a couple.

"No I don't want to see anyone. I want to be alone" "no I'm not poly"

Why is it okay to lie? Everything she does invalidates me.

>>38805274
Oooooh I see, thanks cutie

>>38805343
don't think so, it's the same chemical

>>38804649

Ideally I would recommend you discontinue with the porn and tren. And see a psychiatrist for some meds and a therapist to work through your shit.

Not sure if you're in a situation to do any of that. At some point down the line if you're feeling up for any of it, take it one step at a time.

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>>38805244
Thanks.
Turns out a lot of this isn't an exact science and mostly anecdotal.

Thanks Biden.

>>38805295
HGH is out of my league.
Will read up on that deca.

>>38805296
Bitches gonna bitch

>>38805377
Seeing a therapist for the first time Friday.

I don't know how it will help. All I want is her.

>>38804757

okay, i'm going to go see a physio. i actually hurt my shoulder. i let it heal, and when i got back to lifting the shoulder didn't bother me when doing push/press movements. it's re-aggravated whenever i do more than baby weights for front squats, and sometimes when i lose my tightness on the last rep of deadlifts.

>>38805385
Peptides
Hgh secralogs
I can't handle the volume I want without ghrp and modgrf

>>38805399
Try tb500

>>38805367
Np good luck being a cute girl

>>38805282
>>38805369

what

testosterone isnt harvested from animals, they synthisise it in a lab. It's artificial hormone

>>38805282

if anything you're more likely to get overdosed than underdosed for test.

>>38805435
Wild yam.

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Where do I read about all the new peptides and related chemicals people are using nowadays?

Is z-tracking when you pin necessary?

I pinned my glutes 7 times before I learnt about it and they all went smoothly. Last couple of pins I've tried z-tracking and every time either the needle hurts like hell going in, or i have a muscle spasm. I'm not wasting gear/fucking myself up somehow by not z-tracking am I?

>>38805479
datbtrue was the place, recently closed tho

>>38805515

never z-tracked before and everything's been fine. also don't aspirate.

So lowering SHBG is allowing more free test and it's the same as upping your test dosage,yes?

Which is the best for lowering it with proviron @ 50mg ed?

anavar, Tbol or mast (no winstrol cuz of joint issues)?

>>38805411

> Try tb500

just read some stuff about this and it sounds interesting. never tried any peptides or research chems

>>38805003
Stop posting this shit you fucking retard.

>>38803402
optimal age to hop on the juice, /fraud/?

I'd just like to announce that i am officially back

Enjoy incoming shitstorm and frontpage supermang threads incoming when material is ready

Possible topics include

Overdramatization of pointless ego arguements
Natty or not natty thread
You don't train hard enough until you die thread
Basic Trolling thread that is convincing thread
Reverse Trolling
Autism thread and beta container
Not natty thread and pretending to be natty thread
King of fitness (me obviously) threads

I hope all the not natty side of /fit/ enjoys the shitstorm and I would like to proclaim for the record that I am at this time 100% natty excluding whey protons and creatines

Thank you and amen elemeno p

-supermang king of /fit/
#1 all else filler
isley btfo
comeback and troll king 2026

>>38805871
plz be real.

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>>38805871
>>38805904

How many anons actually have erectile dysfunction because of roids? Seriously asking

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>>38805871
Is this real life?

which sterons cause the most vascularity?

anyone here have experience with trestolone?

anyone here have experience with m1t?

>>38805933
I killed my dick on test once, i dont know what happened whether i crashed my estrogen with to much arimidex or it was just in my head.

At some stage during the cycle i was unable to hold a boner during sex, i was going 5-10 times a night and then eventually i just couldnt get it up. I thought it was the gear, could have just been to much sex.

>>38805784
Right now.

>>38805784
20yo

>>38805411
hi jerry, i'm interested in trying ghrp and modgrf, what kind of dosages are you running? i'm considering doing the protocol in the pastebin:

"Pin 100mcg mod grf + 100mcg GHRP-2, 3x a day. Upon waking, pre workout and before bed."

does that sound good?

>>38805720
It's very good, could immediately feel the slin resistance.

It's expensive though

>>38806137
Yep, 3 saturation doses a day is very standard. I found 2 to be effective as well

Can I just spray the area with ethanol/isopropyl spray rather than use a swab?

Dunno where to get swabs from, but walked into a pharmacy and picked up a huge bottle of ethanol/isopropyl mix spray by asking the chemist directly.

>>38806250
>>38806250
Bottle says 76.9 - 81.4% ethanol with addition of isopropyl.

>>38806250
just rub some alcohol with a piece of cotton

>>38806343
This

>>38806250
The point of the alch is more to push away/keep at bay microbes, hence the spinning motion you apply it to the injection spot in.
So I'm not sure in an injecting context how useful a spray would be

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Hi guys im new to this. What are some oral steroids that will make my libido shot up? Will dbol be enough?

ps. i dont like to inject things

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>>38806429
proviron

>ps. i dont like to inject things
learn to like it faggit

>>38805933
> erectile dysfunction because of roids?
I precum so easily.
thirsty af 99% of the time.
take 4ever to actually cum

>>38806472
im not going to do it for physique, thanks btw ill look into it

>>38806484
gl

So lowering SHBG is allowing more free test and it's the same as upping your test dosage?

Which is the best for lowering it with proviron @ 50mg ed?

anavar, Tbol or mast (no winstrol cuz of joint issues)?

>>38806514
I know sarms all seem to lower shbg, if your test dose is high you may need an ai for that

Osta was magic on my joints and tendons

Best way to avoid acne during mild cycle? 500 test/week

>>38803402
Hey guys.
Has anyone advanced tried roiding and running a high frequency low volume routine like SS? Would it work like I imagine it would?

>>38806723
waste of time if you're roiding for physique.

>>38806741
People don't roid for physique?

>Wat would be the point otherwise?
>pl'ing is cool but y doe

>>38806741
Why wouldn't it?
And said trainee could add accessories each day to add some more volume

>>38806514
>>38806619

I realize the benefits of SARMs and they are great, I've ran a cycle of them once before. However, I don't see how you can actually recommend their use to others KNOWING the limited amount of long term research on the compound.

We know the long term side effects of staples like: Nolva, Dbol, Test, ect.. But there are literally NO long term study on SARMs out there. They've only been around for 10-15 years.

Honestly if I ended up with cancer down the road because of its use thats on me I made the decision to use them when I was a stupid kid. However, I just cannot in good conscious lobby for others to do the same.

>>38806966
Safety trials for osta and most recently LGD were conducted at extreme doses and concluded for human use, LGD is now being used on human subjects for actual medical treatment trial.

>>38806987
>extreme doses
22mg lol

and it was only a test to see immediate side effects (short/mid-term). his point is that we have nothing regarding long term effects

a lot of real dangerous shit was used in real medical trials before they realized the negative effects down the road

Does everyones bloat go straight to their hips and lower stomach or do I just have garbage genetics

>>38807140
"bloat" for me is face and stomach/gut

fat deposits are something else though

>>38807171
Yeah same but like if I take dbol for a bit, my hips and lower stomach instantly gain fuckloads of size. Just dropped the dbol a few days ago, now I am pissing like a race horse and my hips and lower stomach are deflating like you liked a hole in a baloon. And it looks way worse than fat, because it is so saggy and disgusting looking.

>>38803929
Is this achievable natty?

No offense but you dont look huge or overly lean, is it just because of your height? Still look good though, i would be happy to look like that no homo.

>>38807362
>Is this achievable natty?

*smashes face into keyboard repeatedly*

>>38807395
Supermang plz go.

>>38807086
No you fucking ninny, it was tested at 75mg -per kg of bodyweight-.

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>>38803402
why does PIPs happen
explain

What do I get ? Beginner shit

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>>38807478
fucked the pic

>>38807412
lgd? nah. source?

>>38807457
because you are injecting toxic metal tainted chinese bathtub chemicals into your muscles and it hurts

>>38807478
>>38807495
don't take random steroids you don't understand you fucking idiot

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>>38807505
>2019
>not injecting chinese bathtub chemicals in ur muscles
whats ur excuse

>>38807514
Thanks for the great input faggot, was thinking about t with aromasing, nolva and hcg but he doesnt have all of them. So what would be a good combo

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>>38807580
1g dnp
and 200cmg clen just to make sure u get shredded b4 xmas

Is tren rage like permanent, been off a few weeks now and I still get it bad, whereas before I never really raged

>>38807580
he doesn't carry AI so basically nothing if that's your only source

now kys

>>38807695
acetate or enanthathe? don't know how long it's been exactly, but it's probably still in your body if it's enanthate

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>>38807695
yes. aslong as u arent commiting an assault u are fine. they arent rare on tren

>>38803929
how can you look so fucking dyel

>>38805385
eq and var also increase collagen synthesis. I think there are some sarms that also help with that stuff

>>38807735
>No food no pump + break from gym

>>38807719
Enanthate but it has been a little over 3 weeks and I was only on 500mg

It's been over 4, almost 5 half lives. Should have less than 30mg still in my system

>>38806895
to become world champion

So does gear actually help you put on muscle or is it a non-lasting aesthetic thing?

I need to bulk up to support my skeletal structure according to doctor, said my spondylosis will get worse unless I do the at home therapy and lift weights properly. Apparently my bones are too thick and shoulders/chest too big, not enough muscle to support, too much fat getting in the way of that.

Any advice with this? I just want the aesthetic since I have a tiny dick. No joke I have a small dick, I need to look good to have any hope of getting anywhere in a relationshit.

Is there something I can either inject or take orally to get some skin color? I am disgustingly, disgustingly pale.

>>38807774
Cuz I am too lazy to do tanning beds. I heard some good things about... Beta carotine or something?

>>38807735
Seriously this, he is on near 2g of gear.

Is it really just that tall people just look smaller, i would not even question it if he claimed natty.

Does he have 18"+ arms but the frame and proportions make them look sub 15".

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>>38807780
gl

>>38807798
This makes me think being a 5'9 manlet supreme emperor isn't that bad. No one really cares in real life anyway just dont be a fucking retard and make yourself look pathetic by going for taller girls

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>>38807773
Im not trying to bait here with the tiny dick thing either

I'm 6'2'' used to box but with the newly put on fat its literally 3 or so inches erect.

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>>38807798
jeff pls go

>>38807830
You don't need gear to not be a conplete obese fatass piece of shit

>>38807780
>implying you're not gonna go full spaghetti irl
but good luck

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>>38807865
God damn thank you bro. I am literally more pale than this guys left pic, it looks like complete shit

Looking into this asap

>>38807798
https://www.instagram.com/brockohurn/
this guy looks a lot better, I'm not saying that he is natty but if he use roids he probably use a fraction of what bimbo is using and he is also taller than bimbo.

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>>38807829
>make yourself look pathetic by going for taller girls

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>>38807829
>make yourself look pathetic by going for taller girls
going after taller girls is alpha, I'm 5'6 and definetly not going to inject my seed into a girl that is shorter than me

>>38807656
Mistä sä ostat ?

>>38807934
Does bimbo just have shit diet and training or something? I have seen bigger nattys, and he isnt even that lean. Looks good but not what i would expect from that amount of gear, suppose it proves steroids are not magic.

>>38808002
Silkkitie?

>>38807924
>as you are on a steroid forum

Do you mean melanotan is a cancer risk or tanning in general

>>38808034
Essentially this

>>38803732
You sure roid a lot, why do you still look dyel?

Can someone let me know the usual quantity, dosages and duration of an HGH cycle with approx costs?


Thanks.

>>38808084
>dosage
2+iu
>duration
forever

>>38808082
He didn't lift or diet for a month

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>>38808082
Lol this was350/350 test tren with psmf and 2x daily training

Right now I'm just depressed don't eat or sleep and still lift twice daily. I'm stressed tired sad and angry. I did t lift all of August and instead spent my time getting my ex pregnant and having miscarriages.

#yolo

>>38807881
>>38808059
Lame I got a warning for thanking a trip for stuff, and no I mean the sun gives you cancer
>>38808064
Duder you gotta find a way to get your head straight, sucks girlie left you but there is always a sunrise after the darkest nights, you are one of my preferred trips but goddammit your making a fool of yourself

>>38808103
Do you still purposely not work core? Pls dude

>>38808016
tor browserit lataukseen siis

>>38808111
Wait what, what rule does that even break

>>38808103
Lifting 2 times a day? how many times a week?

What do you do to lift twice a day, like how do you split it up?

>>38808103
>2x daily training
too bad training hard isn't enough and you actually have to train smart to

here watch this
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_PdXfTvxOF0ZXIy3hlVGmo0GeMdRDEz1

>>38808136
Basically the mod considered it shilling, whatever

>>38803929
>>38804019

You're running that much juice, and you look like that? That's pretty bad man, if I were you I'd readjust my diet and workout plan because what you got going on right now is not working at all.

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Any frauds know anything about if my steroids usage will hinder my mountaineering gains? I'm going to climb everest some day. I know very little about combining steroids and high altitude.

>>38808175
trt levels of test with eq senpai

>>38808157
Lol

>>38808191
Do you think the increase of red blood cells from gear will help me at altitude?

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>>38807829
5'9 master race reporting in
> tfw gear hasn't even kicked in yet

>>38808223
Hey there little buddy, how's it going down there?

>>38808223
what are your stats?
looking p good for a natty (no homo)

>>38808223
Is this an old pic or what you look like now?

How long it take to cut down to that low bf% i have seen your bulking pics and you were pretty fat, good cut.

>>38808223
It's kicked in, I can 100% tell your shoulders and traps look larger already

>>38808220
yes

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>>38808103

Sup?

Is it safe for women use clen ?

>>38808306
it is not safe for anyone to use clen

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>>38808231
Kek pretty good, always got my nose at cootchie level
>>38808252
Well lost my natty card exactly one week ago today.
Anyways
OHP 200
Bench 320
Squat 365
Deadlift 510

>>38808255
Just this morning

>>38808262
Really?
Here's a pre pin pic, well two days in

How much gear do I need to inject to make my wife want to have a threesome?

>>38808377

2g tren into her pussyveins.

>>38808337
p sick
about as strong as me on the presses but a bit weaker diddly and squats
will be neat to see how you brogress

>>38807963
She's in heels, she's 2 centimeters taller than him.

>>38808103
why those nipple pierces tho

>>38808394
Pretty excited famalam, although will go easy on squat, no belt and iffy knee.

>>38808411
no he is 5'6.5 and she is 5'8.5

I think I have fucking strep throat or something

Dem throat aids senpai

Should I hold off my var for it? Or git this hell throat jacked?

>tfw roid voice becomes a waspy weeze
Worse than post crack lohan jfc

>>38808337

How long lifting? Got any tips for bench and OHP, your damn strong and lean.

>>38808436
I have similar symptoms, maybe you have oral gonorrhea.

>>38808452
>oral gono

Well it would not be impossible

Gono gets slayed by antibiotics no?

Jeez time to google wats up

I've been throat fucking my fwb this whole time though I'd imagine hos dick would drip or something by now

>>38807963

>going after taller girls is alpha

You're not alpha unless there are no (hot) women taller than you.

We're all /beta/ here.

>>38808445
I had periods of lifting throughout my life but have actually been consistent for last four years cept for a 6 month period when I got concussed and became alcoholic.

No real secret, strength training, progressive overload, nutrition.

>>38808486
Apparently oral gonos only symptom is similarity to strep. Your body can slay it on it's own but fuck waiting. Couldve been that drug dealer with the cough kek

To le mediclinic weew

>>38808486
Antibiotics and an injection, and symptoms can take anywhere from 2 days to months if they even show.

>>38808486
Discount on throatfuck bb?

>>38808252
>>38808201
do you guys think i will lose significant mass PSMFing on 100mg test for 2 weeks, maybe 3 weeks at the very most?

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>>38808525
Good about time life got your back for your heretical lifestyle

>>38808580
assuming you follow lyle mcdicks protocol to a t, probably not

>>38808318
why

>>38808606
even following his recommended routine, since push/pull/legs seems retarded for sparing muscle on a psmf. Having all my 20g carbs right before I workout, getting 1x LBM in grams of protein, etc.. Trace fats from chicken only.

I've done it before with no issue on higher doses, just worrying over this low ass dose.

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>>38808662
Those glands aren't fat

>>38808720
lol i know but my reasoning is that i am either gonna maintain or cut on this 100mg cruise while i wait for my health markers to return to normal. and if I can spare a good amount of LBM while cutting, why not just cut instead of wasting time maintaining.

because if i bulk on only 100mg test i am scared i will just get fat as shit

>>38808734
I feel you
Cutting on cruises is what I usually do.
Cause you're not going to blow up on that dose

Opinion on doing delts every day?

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Hooray for tren cough!

Don't you just love the feeling of not being able to breath, while, coughing your lungs out? I sure do.

>>38808529
Thx senpai

Reading more it is apparently unlikely to get oral gono from giving bjs as youd notice them pussing lmao so fingers crossed it's not throat aids but who knows

>>38808553
Kek

100 dorra

>>38808583
Idk if it's not so dif from getting a cold

>>38808764
People (normies) ask me the secrets to my delts
EQ and 10lb lateral raises ed
Just keep it sensibke, man

>>38808785
You know what else isn't so different?
Buying plane tickets!

>>38808842
>10lb lateral raises ed
wat

wouldn't 10lbs be like the same as doing it with air

>>38808842
Your daki will get sick senpai

>>38808764
Seems excessive unless you think they're lagging.

On the other hand, having huge delts us a great feel.

>>38808842
>>38808842
The piano man recommended feeder workouts ed to bring up lagging parts, do you only do this for delts?

>>38804155
I get pip on my right side more than left. First cycle and some of them last for 2 days. Rotating sites is best. Screwed up and went low and irritated my greater trochanter.

>>38808842
>10lb lateral raises
Are your doing 100 two sets?

>>38804781
Plan on some loss from drawing and swapping pins. I went with 3 vials(10ml, 250mg/ml) and only getting 9 draws per vial. There's a bit in the bottom, but not enough to bother saving.

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>>38808853
babby's first peek on roids

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>>38808853
There's lots of reps but it's ed on top of normal shoulders

>>38808861
I'm burning it afterwards
You'll ruin her purity

>>38808867
I used to do them for bis too
But my stupid programming has me legit hitting them eod so I stopped ed lol

>>38808882
I dunno
Doin bunches
That's on top of normal delt work

What is e3d ?

>>38808964
>EveryThird(3)Day

>>38808964
Eat 3 dicks

>>38808961
Gotcha
>>38808964
Every three days

>>38808785
>100 dorra

Excellent.
Offer stands once disease free. >>38808944
Yeah I was thinking once I hit bottom it be hard to draw. Fucking rip off.

>>38808961
>tfw genetic dead end shoulder that clicks when I do this motion
it clicks and grinds when I do lateral raises without any weights at all. It feel uncomfortable and sometimes hurt. It is kinda sore every morning even if I didn't sleep on it. What to do? Get surgery? Can bench and ohp fine but also want to get sick lateral delts

>>38808995
I turn them cap down so the needle can draw from the bottom, leaves an amount in the bottom, plus whatever is left in the 20g 1.5" draw pins and what is left in the 25g injection pins adds up to the missing ml.

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>>38809064

Test-p 300g every 3 days. 15 weeks.
Dbol 50mg per day for the first 4 weeks.
Aromasin 12.5mg every 3 days for the entirety of the 15 weeks ?
Nolvadex for 3 weeks after the 15 week cycle.

Correct me if im wrong.

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>>38808583

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I want to give hcg a try in my next pct.

3 days after last test p pin, Would 1000iu every 3-4 days for two weeks be enough to restart my nuts?
how long do i wait after the hcg to start with the serms?

>>38809098

>test-p e3d

No.

>dbol 50mg

Any idea how you'll respond?

Start at 20, then up it every 3-4 days. Methyl estrogen is no joke if you're susceptible to it.

>>38809098
pretty much everything about this is wrong

>>38809099
Daaamn
That's personal

>>38809064
You do lots of stretches?
Maybe try peps too
And fish oil/msm

>>38809110
Ok thanks !

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>>38809144

Lateral raises and btn press gave me shoulders that looked big from the back and side and normal from the front.

Btn because ohp feels off. I do incline bench for that.

Also, HOW DID SHE KNOW IT WAS A SMALL DICK. Already a whore at 11yo. Jerry you were right.

>>38809064
do your usual rotator cuff work, shoulder stability stuff, stretches for chest and stuff. the usual kind of shoulder rehabby stuff.

dumbell press (overhead) is probably the lateral excercise with least chance of hurting your shoulder. bring the dumbells beside your head, arms in line with body. weights may be limited because of stabilizers though, which means your delts get less stimulus. in this case, the hammer strength BTN press machine is GOAT.

but you should get your shoulders in shape first. your tech on lat raise may also be bad (shrugfinf shoulder, swimging weight, scapula isnt retracted, chest drooping down, etc)

>>38809098
test-p is a short ester

>>38809164
Nice watermark, chum.

>>38809098
>Test-p 300g
no
>Test-p every 3 days
no
>15 weeks
maybe
>Dbol 50mg per day
+
>Aromasin 12.5mg every 3 days
probably no
>Nolvadex for 3 weeks
no. also, dosage missing
>after the 15 week cycle
no

>>38809252

Why hide it, buddy?

>>38805435
Used to be harvested from bull testicles

>>38809164
My front delts are over developed from tons of pull overs

But bnp is great

Mass gaining blast

Wut do?

800mg test e + ai + sarm (lowers shbg, more free test)?
250mg test e + 600mg tren e?

Can also get EQ, but none of my sources have Bold E, just the U ester.

>>38809064
do your usual rotator cuff work, shoulder stability stuff, stretches for chest and stuff. the usual kind of shoulder rehabby stuff.

dumbell press (overhead) is probably the lateral excercise with least chance of hurting your shoulder. bring the dumbells beside your head, arms in line with body. weights may be limited because of stabilizers though, which means your delts get less stimulus. in this case, the hammer strength BTN press machine is GOAT.

but you should get your shoulders in shape first. your tech on lat raise may also be bad (shrugfinf shoulder, swimging weight, scapula isnt retracted, chest drooping down, etc)

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Think I snapped my AC joint up senpai
never doing kinda heavy lateral raises again

wtf is creatine kinase? Got my bloodwork done and it's the only marker that's really high

Is this a concern?

>>38809544
o shit nigger im so sorry

>>38809283
Test-e 200 every 3 days for 15 weeks.
Dbol 20mg per day for 3 weeks.
Aromasin 12.5 every 4 days.
Nolvadex 20mg per day after 15 week cycle.

Also saying Im wrong without saying why is fucking stupid.

>>38809596
Not doing proper research is retarded

>>38809582
google seems to say it has to do with heart disease

Am I die?

>>38809605
What the fuck is this thread for if not asking questions about gear ?

>>38809623
Shit posting and waifu discussions only, are you seriously going to take the advice of faceless anon on 4chan? Are you actually retarded or just new

>>38809637
Well aside from faggots like you there are actually people here with some intellectual capability

>>38809682
And you obviously aren't one if you are asking

>Test-p 300g every 3 days. 15 weeks.
Dbol 50mg per day for the first 4 weeks.
Aromasin 12.5mg every 3 days for the entirety of the 15 weeks ?
Nolvadex for 3 weeks after the 15 week cycle.

Do your research and you would know how to pin proper esters and know that ai is fully subjective, end yourself dickhead

>>38809230
100% this.

rotator cuff stretches and exercises are essential for bad shoulders.

im doing them religiously now.

also the bringing the dbs infront of your instead to the sides is god tier for isolation and giving your shoulders a break

>>38809623
Usually people do /some/ research before injecting chemicals into their body. reddit/r/steroid wiki is a good start.

I started with test-e 500mg every week or 250mg every 3.5 days, but e3d isn't unheard of either. My vials are 250mg per ml, so you /could/ do more or less if you do the math. Some sources sell 300mg/ml vials, too.

Dbol is usually sold in 25mg pills. Try that and ramp up from there. I went to 50mg preworkout on day 2. Dbol aromatizes easily, so use your AI from the beginning.

AI dosing isn't exactly the same for everyone. My bloods came back high e2 so I had to draw mine down to eod. It is something you want to get right. Too high and you get side effects like gyno or worse, too low and you get joint pain, limp dick, etc.

PCT starts 2 weeks after last injection week. 40mg the first 2 weeks, 20mg the next 2.

Bloods before, during and after.

>>38809735
bringing them in front is bad lol

>>38809770
no, when you have them on your side, you are leaving the range of motion your shoulder caps have.

you are bumping your upper arm bone against the cap and squeezing your tendons all the time.

If you bring them forward, so your elbows point forward, you are 100% totally within shoulder capsule FoV if you understand what i mean.

i never had shoulder issues again after i stopped doing shoulder workouts the shitty way.

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>tfw humanity leaving bulk since it's gonna be autumn/winter season so baggy clothes for the next 4-5 months

Need to sport a beard to hide my facial bloat, now im no better than the average powerlifter/nu male.

>>38808662
>1x LBM in grams of protein
this isnt lyle mcdicks unless youre fat af

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should I hop on yet?

I won't make it like this, will I?